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RIAA: Innovation is the Best Way to Kill Piracy

It took more than half a decade, but there’s finally something we can agree on with the RIAA. After suing college students, shutting down LimeWire and pushing for draconian anti-piracy laws, the RIAA now finally admits that the best answer to illegal downloading is innovation. A milestone, but unfortunately also a message that is bundled with the usual creative statistics that have to be debunked.

innovationFor years, when people suggested that the labels should adapt their business models to the digital age and compete with piracy, but the RIAA claimed that it’s impossible to compete with free.

Today the RIAA takes this notion back.

“The single most important anti-piracy strategy remains innovation, experimentation and working with our technology partners to offer fans an array of legal music experiences,” they now say.

The usage of the word “remains” is remarkable, since to our knowledge this is the first time the RIAA has admitted that innovation is more important than enforcement. But let’s not dwell on that for too long.

While the RIAA’s statement can be seen as a victory for those who in recent years spread the “innovate not legislate” mantra, it is tucked away in an article that spreads dubious claims and statistics on the effectiveness of copyright enforcement.

RIAA Vice President of Strategic Data Analysis, Joshua Friedlander, begins as follows:

“Although the impact of anti-piracy efforts often seem self evident to us, it’s important to see the real world effects, and we’re happy to see two new studies illustrating the value of these efforts in the marketplace.”

The first study highlighted by the RIAA shows that the French anti-piracy law Hadopi boosted iTunes sales. A highly controversial report, as the main conclusion is that the media buzz a year before the law went into effect was the single cause for this jump.

No third variables are seriously considered, and the authors fail to mention that digital sales actually went down in 2011, the first full year Hadopi was active. More on this in our full analysis of the report.

The second “study” isn’t really a study, but an attempt by the RIAA itself to show how effective the LimeWire shutdown was.

Using Nielsen Netview data the music group reveals that 9.5 million of the 14 million people who used LimeWire shortly before the shutdown, stopped pirating entirely. This also had a significant impact on the total number of US file-sharers.

“The Limewire shutdown affected the overall numbers of users of illegal content sources. The overall number of U.S. users of the illegal sites in September 2010 was 28 million, but that fell to 19 million by September 2011,” the RIAA writes.

In other words, the total number of US file-sharers dropped 9 million a year after the LimeWire shutdown (which is +0.5 million if we discount the LimeWire users).

So far so good, but what the RIAA fails to point out is that there’s absolutely no evidence that the drop is related to the LimeWire shutdown. We doubt it, and also have some numbers to show that RIAA’s conclusion may be completely bogus.

Let’s add two more data points that former RIAA boss Mitch Bainwol shared last year.

“The number of Americans engaged in illegal music consumption fell from roughly 30 million in May of 2010 to about 24 million in May of this year,” he said.

Combining the four points, we see that during the 4 months prior to the LimeWire shutdown the number of music pirates decreased by 0.5 million a month. The 8 months after the LimeWire shutdown this average is exactly the same, 0.5 million a month.

Interestingly, there is a larger drop between May 2011 and September 2011, a decrease of more than 1 million music pirates a month. Surely, that can no longer be a LimeWire effect?

What it is, we don’t know, but something happened last summer around the same time Spotify was introduced in the US…….

And that brings us back to the innovation part.

After all, we now agree with the RIAA that innovation is the best way to kill piracy – creative statistics and overbroad censorship clearly aren’t.

Update: Innovation was mentioned here as well.

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  • Nimski

    It’s a trap! Or maybe they have finally came out of their state of delusion

    • —ANoi— allergic to PR

      Alas ….it’s PR…. Trying to rewrite history

      They have been brought kicking and screaming into the internet world.
      They didn’t innovate….
      Apple did , YouTube did , Pirates did etc… the RiAA fought and LOST.
      Now they are saying they fought and won.

      BUT….. Artists still make money with “rampant piracy” ongoing.
      They won’t say that

      ………… History is …………

      RiAA treated fans like criminals
      They screwed artists over
      They lied
      They pushed propaganda
      They destroyed individuals
      They destroyed innovative business’s


      The ONLY thing the RiAA innovate

      The shit they say

      • The guy

        Their asses are jealous of their mouths because much more shit comes out of their mouths and goes flying at people, instead of coming out of their asses and into the toilet, where it is supposed to go.

        • Guest

          I think RIAA will launch something like Megabox soon BECAUSE they know that Kim Dotcom confirmed it works well.

      • Anonymous

        Too little too late…even if “piracy” completely stopped, and all their business models changed entirely, I would still never buy a single track from those bastard RIAA-affiliated labels. Not one. Not even at a quarter a track. Those people did more than just stifle innovation, the laws they paid Congress to pass go to the heart of internet censorship and control itself. That cannot ever be forgiven. We have to stop feeding that beast.

        Downloads unto death.

        • Anonymous

          Too late. I will continue to do everything I can to bankrupt these companies and will never ever ever buy anything from any RIAA (or whatever they rebrand themselves) label for as long as I live. I will give money directly to artists and creators I respect and admire, no middlethieves.

          PS – A fun thing to do: If you send a letter in the USA with less than the full postage, the receiver receives it “postage due.” Send complaint letters to the RIAA with only a 1 cent stamp on the envelope. Costs them 44 cents :P

    • Anonymous

      They can lick my dog’s dirty Ass !!!
      What are they going to do innovate ACTA or CISPA or TPP or whatever next with bigger jail sentences, fines, and better Tech to Censor you life.
      I Boycott your whole greedy scumbag Industry !!!
      Down With MAFIAA !!!
      Support INDIE and watch them really innovate while the Big Dinosaurs go extinct.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Point5communications Will Buckley

      We believe the conversation needs to change. What many young people don’t understand is that “free” is not a sustainable business model. We basically have 2 groups; those that think they are entitled to download anything and everything, because they can and those who don’t see the reality of their actions and download stuff because everyone else does, not dissimilar from the looting mentality.

      So, while we will never stop online piracy, we do believe there are people who will eventually understand the personal impact illegal downloading has on the creative community and care enough to want to support something that brings so much joy into their lives.

      Because you know, filmmakers don’t tour, all musicians are not swimming in cash from their t-shirt sales, not everyone is signed to a major label or movie studios and the countless, baseless justifications that people use to get what they want without paying for it. You my friend are the one who is delusional.

      • Fredrika

        > “What many young people don’t understand is that “free” is not a sustainable business model.”

        Looking at the combined revenues of all cyberlockers, and all ad-revenues from all torrent sites, i beg to differ. Secondly, no one has ever suggested that all business models should be free. In reality it’s fully possible for business models that charge money to exist alongside free, as the current record turnovers of the content industry exists in working symbiosis with free.

        > “We basically have 2 groups; those that think they are entitled to download anything and everything, because they can and those who don’t see the reality of their actions and download stuff because everyone else does, not dissimilar from the looting mentality.”

        What reality? The reality where no scientific evidence exists that support the fabricated thesis that non-profit filesharing causes any harm to society, creators, culture or the current record revenues of the content industry?

        Secondly, those two groups you mention has no relevance whatsoever to the fact that 100% of the responsibility to make profit lies on the entrepreneurs alone. If they can’t get revenues on the free market they are failed entrepreneurs and they deserve no money. This fact does not change because people filesharing use their own property and manufacture their own copies, which is nothing like any looting mentality. It’s normal free market competition, that people chose the cheapest or easiest method, even if that means manufacturing the desired goods and services themselves, with their property..

        > “So, while we will never stop online piracy, we do believe there are people who will eventually understand the personal impact illegal downloading has on the creative community..”

        Please stop spreading propaganda and lies. No such harm has ever been proven. There are more creators than ever before, more culture than ever before is created, the revenues in the content industry are higher than ever before, and the cost for manufacturing and distributing content is lower than ever before, which means that more money than ever before can go the the actual creators, instead of distributors. Just because some confused failed entrepreneurs claims there is harm doesn’t mean there actually is.

        > “..and care enough to want to support something that brings so much joy into their lives.”

        Pirates are very well interested in supporting creators and sought after functioning business models. Supporting obsolete business models and middle man is something completely different, no sane person would want to support something that isn’t needed.

        > “Because you know, filmmakers don’t tour, all musicians are not swimming in cash from their t-shirt sales, not everyone is signed to a major label or movie studios..”

        This does not change the fact the the combined turnovers in the content industry are indeed higher than ever before. If some entrepreneurs feel they aren’t getting their share, it’s because they don’t sell anything, and that’s because of faulty business models and missed opportunity’s to sign intelligent contracts. This is not a copyright related problems, and it’s not the responsibility of politicians or pirates to fix that problem.

        Unless you are against the free market and feel that entrepreneurs shouldn’t have to sell anything to get revenues, but just get it anyway, as in a planned economy, or a communist society?

        > “..and the countless, baseless justifications that people use to get what they want without paying for it.”

        First of all you seem to not understand how society works. The only thing that has to be justified is the prohibition in law. Not peoples actions. Secondly, the price is not up for discussion. When you manufacture something, as copies, with your own property, that you already own and have paid for, no other price than free is possible. So it’s not without paying it. There simply isn’t anything to pay for in the first place.

        > “You my friend are the one who is delusional.”

        Based on all the incorrect claims and false arguments you just put forward, might i suggest it’s you who’s delusional?

      • DocGerbil100

        This post contains so many falsehoods, bizarre misconceptions and basic errors of fact, that it’s difficult to know where to start. I did have an incredibly enormous post correcting it all, but there’s really only one claim that’s worth answering:

        ‘”free” is not a sustainable business model’

        My mind must be playing tricks on me: I could have sworn that radio and TV companies the world over, including Hollywood itself, had been delivering high-quality, ad-supported content that is functionally free to the end consumer – and without unreasonable barriers to consumption – for over 60 years. There is no reason not to allow the equivalent via the internet, other than the bloody-minded, unprofessional greed and stupidity of content providers.

        Having said that, there are plenty of examples of how this is wrong, from the aforementioned TV and radio companies, to such online equivalents as US providers will graciously deign to allow, to more modern alternatives such as iTunes and Steam, which are used by people who are perfectly aware that they can obtain whatever they want for free, but would rather support the services offered and the creative artists involved in providing their entertainment. By all accounts, these services are making billions.

        Based on the limited amount of genuine sales data and internal market research that leaks into the public domain from e-retailers (as opposed to arguably-partisan studies by anyone else), pirates are spending effectively donating significantly more for their entertainment than their non-piratey counterparts.

        In the case of the Steam gaming service, the figures are particularly striking.

        According to Steam’s own hardware and software comparison (see http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey for details), bittorrent pirates now make up nearly 40% of their user-base, with µTorrent taking the lion’s share of installations. Now add to that the undisputed fact – helpfully provided by the copyright-lobby itself – that BT pirates constitute less than half of all file-sharers. Now add to that the previously-mentioned greater spending patterns exhibited by pirates (as indicated in emails provided by your own industrial partners and submitted against the RIAA’s will during the Limewire court-case).

        The result is this: while you can argue around the matter, such as claiming the market would otherwise be much larger, on the basis of the bare facts available through the only largely-indisputible sources that we have, the cold, unvarnished evidence is that pirates are overwhelmingly contributing the bulk of funds for the PC games industry.

        In the case of multi-platform titles, we’re paying enough for PC releases to continue to be developed, to be released and to be at least profitable, in the main.

        In the case of PC-only games, especially those indie projects and even more especially those available only through Steam, we are effectively bankrolling them in their entirety, purely for the sake of supporting the developers.

        There’s no inherent reason to presuppose that the same thing isn’t true of iTunes, Netflix and every other digital platform out there.

        Say whatever else you like, but that puts file-sharers a long, long way from mere thieves and looters – and any suggestion that the war against piracy is anything other than a war on your own customers is nothing more than fraudulent.

        :)

    • Darwin

      “RIAA: Innovation is the Best Way to Kill Piracy”

      Too late. Everyone hate them.

      Anyway they are not sincere just another deception from this inferior form of life.

      • Lord of the Files

        The thing about lies is that they create walls around you. Each lie you tell backs you further into a corner until you reach a point where you can’t say anything without being contradictory to some previous statement you’ve made. When you reach that point where anything you say is guaranteed to conflict with something you’ve already said, you’ll find that the truth is the only way out. Why else do you think the saying exists, “… and the truth shall set you free”? Most people know it, but I doubt many know where it actually came from. Free is not sustainable? Correction, pure greed is not sustainable, and especially the lies born from that greed.

  • Guest

    “What it is, we don’t know, but something happened last summer”

    Isn’t it obvious? They killed Osama, so he could no longer direct his minions to download US music in an attempt to destroy their economy. Downloading… it’s simply terrorism.

    • Average_Joe

      Its nice to see that creativity can solve problem but “collateral murder” still going on, when mafRIAA and its minions drag link providers in “court_hell”. mafRIAA has done many good inventions and “Court_Hell” is one of the most efficient…

      But too bad it wont affect me as I´m average Doe, who just dont have money to spend, but who like watch and listen stuff. So cutting off make no difference, we dont spend more, we just go around.

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  • Somebody

    They don’t want to innovate! They just want blood. You can’t fix stupid folks!

    • Anonymous

      Is this a case of unrealistic optimism? Maybe they just mean to innovate in the ways they try to get new and stupid laws passed?

  • Andrew Lee

    Too late RIAA April Fools is on the 1st not the 12th.

    By the way Merry Christmas everyone and a happy fucking New Year.

    Wait what?

  • Anon1337-1

    Won’t believe one word of what the RIAA has to say.

  • bismarket

    It’s natural for people not to want to support an evil corporation, it’s not JUST the fact they can find free music easily on-line & they don’t help themselves with ridiculous anti-piracy ads & lawsuits/blackmail against ordinary folk. I hope (but doubt) they’re coming to their senses but i wont hold my breath!

    • Elbobotic

      Seriously though, is there really that much the industry is putting out there worth downloading for free or otherwise? The best way to kill piracy is lack of innovation…continue to pump out crap and eventually even the pirates will find better ways to waste their time.

      • bismarket

        True, unless of course your a 10Yr old girl or some granny who gets a Susan Boyle album at Xmas!

        • Elbobotic

          I’m convinced that the CD killed the music industry. I look through my parents’ record collection and it seemed that once upon a time bands and labels actually cared about fans. The cover artwork, inner sleeve artwork, concept albums, fan based items tucked into an album cover, and places you could write to get the lyrics (basically the kind of crap a collector would pay extra for in a 5 CD artist compilation) connected the packaging with the music and connected the music with the fans. The CD ended up being an incredibly cheap way to package music, and it was the first step in separating the music from the medium. The additional time on a CD pretty much assures that an artist can cram 15 half assed filler songs on a release rather than tightening up 8 really good ones.

          I think the music industry was in trouble well before mp3s and p2p, all technology did was let it decompose. At least techology has given us back the “single” which the record companies worked hard to kill off in the 80s.

  • Anonymous

    There is no good news here. The RIAA is simply a political lobbying organization advocating ever harsher rights enforcement laws. So the only innovation they ever mean is to arm themselves with better hammers to whack the market with.

    If they want to examine real market data then not many years ago the RIAA monopoly once controlled almost all of the music market. Now thanks to the Internet the RIAA now control about 46% of the market making the Independents the larger force.

    The RIAA of course do not like this and moan that their income has halved but most interestingly they blame piracy for their losses while aiming “anti-piracy laws” to attack their true enemy namely to force Indie music production and supply back under the RIAA umbrella.

    It is not hard to see where the money is to be found.

  • Kr0nz

    so in the last year and half has music piracy decreased by 1/3 because of their efforts or because music these days is just total crap?

    im going to choose the latter

    • ANoi

      so…. you believe the stats they pulled out of their ass ?

      Check out the stats , I pulled from MY ASS

  • Anon1

    Those 9 million LimeWire users simply switched to LimeWire Pirate Edition. Nice try RIAA.

  • Anon

    We dont believe you the RIAA ! You need more people !

  • Eltrkbrd

    “Innovation is not my highest value, human rights values are my highest value.” — Richard Stallman

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e4w_Ti26TU

    • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

      Stallman is the cyber god bless his heart.

    • Guest

      And guess what… he uses Linux which is the best thing that ever happened in computing.

      • Danny

        He would rather use Hurd! That was his true dream for GNU.

  • robogo

    What I see here are words without meaning, a not too good PR coverup. They talk about innovation as a way forward yet they sue everyone for trying to innovate.

    I still hate you, RIAA, you modern incarnation of an oppressive, bullying Nazi.

  • Lulz

    Lulz: Not buying music is the Best Way to Kill the RIAA…
    Derp: Legal downloads are killing piracy…

    Seriously now, I bought a music CD today and was happy to, the commercial Norwegian artist allowed me to preview a total of four tracks on his website in embedded audio/video form along with key music videos in his vidography in other bands.

    I am upgrading my internet service next week, I wonder how many albums I can download at 80mbit/sec in one day? ;)

    • Rohe

      I once calculated, that I can download more books than I can ever read, more comics that I can ever consume, more Podcasts/Audiobooks that I can ever listen too, and more Movies I can ever watch within a month on a 25mbit line.

      And I did. The line pumped for 24/7. And after wading trough it, I erased 99% of it. Because it makes no sense to keep TBs of stuff you don’t want or need or spend money on large hard disks or big cakes of DVDs. For what? Everything is out there, somehow, somewhere.

      Its the selection process and the subjective quality to certain things that gives the consumption process “sense”. And those you simply click on everything just because “its possible” simply don’t seem to make sense. Its like eating because you CAN not because you WANT.

      • Lulz

        You speak the truth bro, my comments were meant in jest, although 80mbit from 12mbit still make me horny long time ;)

        The last thing anyone wants is a drive full of cams… or a decent quality copy of the twilight saga.

        • Zig

          You owe me a new keyboard for your Twilight Saga comment… it’s now covered in the coffee I spat out! :D

        • somebody_else

          Other than a stupid tween, or even dumber wannabe tween, who’d even want that waste of bits?

          They can’t even tell the difference between an Undead and a Faerie.

      • DJ Kong

        i find myself using TPB less. all the stuff i got form there is going to be outdated real soon anyways. why even chance it then there others places out there?

  • Neb12

    They did innovate. And learned. Courts won’t work. Politics is afraid. So let Verizon take the stand against so called “infringement”.
    Thier a bunch of chickenshits sitting with Tom Hanks and a sign “will work foor food”.
    Castaway you fedex scoundrels!

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    I don’t believe a word. Too fucking late you lost our trust riaa. Trust would be if they stopped all legislation running currently and stop blaming piracy. Piracy was never the problem it’s the scum running the riaa and mpaa .

  • Anonymous

    Neither, RIAA, nor ANY other Corporate beneficiary of current copyright law, will welcome new and innovative technology merely because that technology is efficient, inexpensive, socially responsible, or scientificly progressive.

    On the contrary, when such corporate distributors of Intellectual Property corporate speak of embracing new technological innovation they are focused on those emergent technologies that enable them to impose the continuation of monopoly profits conferred by copyright laws that designate and protect their role as previleged custodians and distributors of Intellectual Property. We need look no further than recent history, to witness the desperate search of these corporations for technological innovations that would enable them to identify and control the purchasing decisions, private information, and personal behavior of average citizens on the internet, in order to limit economic competition and the availability of supply, rather than make product available more conveniently, at a better quality, or a lower cost for the benefit of consumers.

    Would you like to see the real beating heart of the monopolistic oligarchy that the current Copyright Laws have produced at the core of American Publishing and Digital Media distribution?

    Would you like to see the Chief Executive Officers of six of the largest Publishing conglomerates in America acting like predatory animals in a conspiracy to subvert the Sherman Anti-Trust Act in collusion with Apple Computer Corporation against the rights and interests of all Americans by fixing the national market in e-books?

    Would you like to see the sheer tsunami scale of unearned wealth transferred from private citizens to those digital distributors under the current copyright laws?

    Then, you should read the recent April 12 federal indictment against Apple and six of the nations Publishing conglomerates. It is available here, (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1053857/e-books_complaint.pdf)

    I promise that it is at least twice as dirty as any Mario Puzo novel. More importantly, it presents the most persuasive argument that no amount of technological innovation will improve the social management of Intellectual Property in America untill the copyright Laws are radically altered or abolished.

    • Neb12

      Good read. You are well educated. Apple is indicted for price fixing in violation of anti-trust laws. They will pay. Something. But, they are caught.
      ;) .

      With BT it is real simple. Get rid of the clients and the rest will go away.

      I am going to watch my pirated Pinky and The Brain now.

      BTW,

  • ANON

    I don’t like any of the *IAA but I think the music industry does a bit better job having legal ways to obtain their products online compared to TV Shows and even movies to some extent. Not hard to get a non DRM mp3 song legally, I don’t think I can get a movie without DRM. TV Shows well that seems to be a big mess. Have to wait somewhere between hours and years to watch the shows online depending on who owns the content and which way the stick is shoved up their ass. Whatever I am one of the pirates that will never stop at this point anyway.

    • Neb12

      BTW AVI

    • Rohe

      The problem with TV shows is, that everything hangs on the life-support needle of some ratings box, because everything is paid by very shy advertising. So, if you put it on the net for free or dvr with your tivo to your convenience, it doesn’t make the expected (“entitled”) 25% gain every year. The advertisers are not there.

      The pay channels are another beast. Netflix cost $7 a month and HBO something like $30. Its clear that they don’t give away their crown jewels like “Game of Thrones” to the cheap bastard brother.

      Add to this pile of old an complex, overbearing network of local and national network providers, sub providers, TV station chains … and you have an expensive mess, where everybody wants a cut off everything and everyone.

      One clear solution (for the american market) is to move to an IP-only, Netflix model. Abolish all that nonsense of TV-Stations, networks, cable providers. All that cruft, fat and corruption. Just pick what you want to watch.

      But then, what will people talk about next day? Because nobody will have watched anything together at the same time because 250mil will watch 250mil different channels. How to sell ads? How to sell expensive subscriptions? The one who figures that out with print money. Money that doesn’t need to be shared with all the people in between.

      Another solution: just produce own content, like Netflix already does and Youtube and others want to follow. A good series with 20 episodes cost around 20-30mil to make. That’s pocket change for those networks. Google made 3bil last quarter. They could pay for the next complete season of Babylon 5 or even Miami Vice and then put it on youtube with some Ads.

      Just to ANNOY HOLLYWEIRD.

    • Anonymous

      Good instincts have led you (all of us) to the right conclusions as consumers: Intellectual Property should be vastly more available than it is; at a mere fraction of its current price;and, infinitely more conveniently distributed (when customers need it, in the format they preffer, on whatever platforms they wish to purchase, to perform all the functions they expect performed.)

      When we look around and ask, “Why all this overpricing, bad delivery, and customer abuse?” The answer is right before our eyes: Sucking up global wealth like a Martian Money Vacum Cleaner. Copyright law has given them custody and control of global Intellectual Property; and, “By God!”, they’re going to make customer pay multiple times for every byte and bit that passes in front of their eyeballs and between their ears.

      Only when copyright law is changed or abolished will new competitors who can and will deliver better services at lower per unit profit margins in respect to Intellectual Property have full civil space to distribute Intellectual Property with the efficiency and equity that is now possible in the digital universe.

      That is a change worth fighting for.

      • Rohe

        There is no need to change copyright laws. You have to change the financing for content away from the self proclaimed Kings. Kickstarter is a good first way. Lets see what happens when Netflix, Google or Amazon Studios drop the first blockbuster movie or series into the web. We need to educate the “native creatives” to search for some other way to create, instead of asking the Kings for permission.

        • Anonymous

          First, current copright law is a 100 year perpetuity effectively extinguishes the Public Domain. Second, it’s a legislated vesting of monopoly rights which previledges corporations over individual citizens by making them protected custodians of all the uses of intellectual Property. Third, it provides an extotionate unearned premium to digital distributors whose distribution costs are a mathematical aproximation of zero and who trade intellectual property for its residual monopoly previledges under copyright law. Fourth, it disenfranchizes and fails to compensate Creative Artists by allowing the transfer of their workproduct and Intellectual Property rights under price and terms set under the legislated monopoly attributes inherent in copyright law.

          Current copyright law represents a tragic assault on both Creative Artists and customers and must be changed.

    • somebody_else

      My wife and I have bought two movies for our daughter that ‘included a digital download’ version of the movie. It’s DRM was so absolutely draconian that neither of us could get it to work on either the smartphone or the computer. She’s a computer literate user that also does some web design, so she should have been able to get it to work. I’m a long time computer geek that handles everything from hardware to viruses to machine language to networks, so if I can’t get it to work you can bet it has SERIOUS issues.

      End result, we downloaded DVD rips from a site so my daughter could watch the movies.

      If anyone wants to complain about me ‘pirating’ those movies, remember that I have a license for digital copies of them, and media shifting is allowed as fair use, and I was not the one the broke the DRM on that crap.

      I wonder if DRM really means Devastates Real Markets.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    No, the best way to ‘kill piracy’ is to realize that most ‘piracy’ is not piracy at all, but people just doing legal time shifting of programs or downloading shows that they are already paying for via a cable TV or satellite TV subscription.

    That’s the reality with movie, music, and TV show ‘piracy’ in the real world.

  • Neb12

    Your correct anon.
    The reason they don’t is because crackers are DRM nightmares.

    Get rid of the clients and get rid of the problem.

    Yoplay

  • Chief

    No one can function properly without the truth.
    Just how crooked “Government” types can be. My biggest question:
    How could anyone work for an outfit like this and then go home and sleep at night?
    =======================
    “Be nice to everyone on the way up because your gonna see them on the way down”
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    men belong to the earth,earth does not belong to men.-Chief Seattle

  • foff

    Fucking Riaa, everything they say and all the figures they spout are self serving. As long as they invent statistics that justify all the fees they get from the industry they have a great business. The selfish shit headed idea that people can’t share amount themselves needs to go away.

    • MPAA Law

      You used their name, that’s copyright infringement on their intellectual property.

      They can either take you to court and sue you for $$200,000 or you can settle this out of court for… oh… $600. You can choose.

  • Asdf

    That poker face doesn’t convince me.

  • Guest

    Dear RIAA,

    Reinstating expired copyright on public domain works, grouping Does in BitTorrent cases to save on court filing fees, stripping music artists of their royalty fees, refusing to publicly declare your investigative technologies, whining about new technology, creating invasive DRM, treating all downloads as lost sales, considering customers as pirates, and stonewalling attorney’s fees when you’ve been judged as guilty of fucking up does not count as innovation.

    Yours sincerely,
    The Internet.

  • Jdudjd

    Piracy was down by the quoted ammount my arse! Limewires shutdown didnt effect anyone, they just moved on to better things. I hear nothing about cyberlockers

    • MadAsASnake

      Agree, sticking to just one form of downoading will show ups and downs that you won’t see if you consider all sources. HADOPI may have made a big dent in torrenting but it’s irrelevant if everyone goes to torrents, the Mega takedown may have reduced locker downloads, but it’ll all go elsewhere, and quickly as there are easy choices. Stats on a single one are pretty useless.

    • Guest

      Don’t encourage them to do more “research”. The retards that give them random figures are already too much.

  • Kristoth68

    RIAA is selling themselves … why would the media dealer throw money at those folks if any of those results would be inconclusive. Of course : whatever they do (including flushing the toilet twice after each poo poo & believing in the holy grail) will reduce what they have branded and will brand as “piracy”. They run a show to the show biz. Not a very good one but they seems to make a living of it.

  • Anonymous

    it’s good to see RIAA admitting to the best way to combat ‘piracy’. as has been said so many times before, innovation and meeting customer demands are the ways to go. however, why put out the usual bull shit statistics etc? it just puts the ‘i am stupid’ part back into the equation. admitting to half the truth, the half that suits, is really no admittance at all.

  • Pirate

    Pirate reporting in for duty.

  • LOL

    It’s funny that the RIAA would try to save face so soon after doing some of the nastiest things to MegaUpload, Hotfile, and Mediafire. They can at least stop lying about the cyberlocker sites before they decide to take this route public.

    They’re just politicians who think that everyone will believe any lie that they can spit from their forked tongues. These are the same idiots that said that Kim Dotcom stole their $500 million.

  • Anonymous

    could it be that after the SOPA disaster, the soon to be ACTA disaster, the public awareness of TPP and CISPA (which is trying to be implemented in many countries under various guises) and how all these Bills have been so positively linked to the US entertainment industries and the way THEY want things to be, including how easy they want to be able to prosecute the public for ‘sharing’, they have finally realised that the public are not going to put up with this shit any longer?

    Nah! just wishful thinking on my part! the entertainment industries are a bunch of liars, that cant see anything other than what they want or how they want it. if innovation were the right way to go (and like millions of others, i think it is), RIAA etc would have been down that road ages ago. they wont do that simply because it doesn’t involve bribing, suing and totally fucking up peoples’ lives. that is what they like most, what they specialize in and what they have gotten used to doing. they aint gonna change now, so dont be fooled!!!!.

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    • Sfoxman

      Liar, liar and liar.

    • Anonymous

      You can tell its a scam from the way the link tries to pass itself as the legitimate google.com.

      Also, it’s waaaay offtopic.

      • Chameleon87

        Those fuckers have been spamming older TF articles like crazy. Seems like those bots wait for the articles to get a few weeks old, then they spam the comments thinking no one looks at them (and flags them) anymore.

        I flagged 8 of those comments in the “MSN messenger blocks TPB links” article already.. and it just keeps getting more.. :(

        Easiest way to ruin their spam crap is to go to the info page of the google URL shortener and flag it for spam. Links are usually gone within a couple hours, so their spamposts go nowhere :)

        All you need to do is take the goo.gl URL from their spamposts and add a plus symbol at the end. That brings you to the google URL shortener info page (with a “report as spam” link) instead of redirecting you to the target URL ;)

        • Anonymous

          Oh, so goo.gl IS run by google….my bad xD

          But one fact still remains, that spam was way too off topic.

      • Chameleon87

        Can’t edit.. damnit.
        goo.gl is a legitimate Google website. It’s their URL shortener. Been using it for quite some time myself.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Heald/100002971646899 Chris Heald

    If they could pull that off it would be a win/win for them. They pay to develop new technology with the money they win from suing everyone. Won’t work though. New technology becomes old technology. Always has always will.

  • Anonymous

    http://wh.gov/U19
    Sing my Petition and help stop CISPA
    Let us all try to stop this Atrocious intrusion of our Privacy and yet another attempt to Censor The Internet !!
    Please tell as many as you can and call Washington and your Reps.
    Jordan Maine’s Oldest Punk Warned you SOPA/PIPA Would be back.
    Now we must work to try and stop this latest assault on our Freedom and the Freedom of The Internet !!!
    Corporations Are Not People

  • Ehindunio

    Ooh wow look at us, music industry. Supporters of liberal democrats everywhere. Blame Clinton for the original DMCA. Tis a pity it wasn’t abolished or filibustered by the Republicans at the time.

  • YARIGHT

    everyone refuse to vote and say why cause they dont represent you
    that will mean a majority are not represented on purpose.
    go in and right it on the ticket

  • Gae

    If they had the intelligence to realise this 10 or so years ago then online piracy would never even have been a problem to begin with.
    But now after 10 years of lawsuits against kids, attempts to rewrite laws in their favor, closures of legitimate websites, phoney studies and ‘educational’ campaigns filled with lies they have a pretty big uphill battle if they ever want the public on their side again.
    Too little too late if you ask me.

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  • Andycapp

    There is a lot of hatred around the world for the American entertainment industry , they have stood proud of there corruption and the fact that they have loaded the courts with ex employees who obviously rule in there favor, they are proud and advertise freely the fact that they have destroyed peoples lives or have tried to, they blatantly lie to get there way and hurt there customers, the problem they have is when a British subject , someone who has never set foot on American ground is extradited and found guilty of a crime that is not a crime. Then they will face the boycott of all boycotts , where cinemas are invaded by flash mobs , where nobody can go to the cinema to watch a movie without it having to be restarted over and over again due to people chanting or singing. The movie industry and music industry brought this on themselves and they will not be able to stop the flood of acts of hatred towards them. They think they have the power but people power is way more powerful than money power as has been shown again and again.I am not condoning the acts of flash mobs or any damage to property but hey when you see it coming you can imagine how bad it could get and i am sure people can imagine much worse than me , obviously not with the intent of doing any physical harm to anyone , i mean an usher or cameraman is not at fault here it is there overlords , the big guys in Hollywood and the American Government that need to see how much harm can be done to there investment, and the bribes they are getting on a daily basis to change laws or make new ones in there favor, When they commit a crime they can be punished and all the money in the world will not prevent them from feeling the pain.
    Personally i do not see the poor guy deported , i think cooler heads will realize the blow-back will not be worth the example they are trying to make of him.
    They are dimwits who have destroyed an industry that was making a fortune , but there greed and corruption has come full circle and there attempts at pacifying the population will be too little too late.They knew what they were doing was wrong , they knew there was a better way to encourage people to buy there 1′s and 0′s they chose the path that they did because they thought they were all powerful and they will feel the wrath of there customer base for treating them all like criminals, when they themselves are up in court on corruption charges , just like any common criminal.

  • Jc

    Like the title says, innovation is the best way to kill piracy. totally shtrr, in my country I have Netflix, 8 bucks per month however they don’t have content… If they had the same content as the amazon… then I’ll definitely purchase that.

    What do you think?

  • Guest

    There really is a better explanation. People switched to downloading as free users from “cyberlocker” sites because those downloads are much more difficult to trace than torrents and those sites got faster in those years.

    If this theory is correct, you’ll see an increase in the number of people using P2P starting in late January of 2012 thanks to the fall of Megaupload. Of course, the real cause of that crisis was the cowardice of Fileserve and Filesonic, the 2 leading hosts prior to that awful day.

  • Neotoasty

    Too late, RIAA.

    Just because it took you this long to finally realize such an inevitable fact through all the troubles you’ve put thousands through alongside your ass-buddy MPAA. The innovation I’d rather see is your precious business model and your mere existence to just completely disappear.

    You want to earn some trust back? Give yourself to the digital movement, otherwise, fuck off.

    • Digital008

      Why should they give to the digital movement, when the digital movement seems so unwilling to give to them? And what, back in the ’90s, were record companies actually doing to us all that our trust has been ‘broken’? They gave us infinite replays of our favorite music for ten or fifteen bucks, and you’re talking as though they were the Nazi party.

      The dotcom fatcats, with their ‘intellectual property’ are getting fatter, but putting nothing into artist development. Megaupload made hundreds of millions out of artists rich and poor alike, without giving anything back to those artists. Yeah, evil corporations ARE taking over the world. The hypocritical Google is one. A corporate behemoth is falling to make way for a bigger, less flexible corporate behemoth. Then, in time, you’ll complain about that one. Liberal idiots, sheesh…

  • The Muss

    It’s true. A lot people aren’t laptop integrated. they’ve different life. they usually trust one website and if it’s down they just give up

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  • Digital008

    All of the above comments are bull. You are not Robin Hoods, stealing from the rich to give to the poor. You are stealing from ALL artists, many of whom have to hold down fulll time jobs in addition to their creative work, in order to fund lazy, lousy bastards like Kim Dotcom, who as I understand it has made almost $200 million by facilitating massive levels of theft. You protest outside government buildings wearing ‘V For Vendetta’ masks as though you are some kind of warriors for freedom, rather than a bunch of juveniles who want to get something for free whereas you had to pay for it before, and were seemingly happy to. Ai Weiwei you ain’t… he put himself in danger in the name of freedom. You just want to save your money for something else. Stop pretending you care about the world.

    ‘Evil corporations’, you repeatedly crow. But most record labels are not divisions of corporate groups. Most record labels are small, struggling businesses who are closing down because of lack of patronage. Because artists are making more from product endorsement now than they are from their actual music, the Rihannas and Justin Biebers of the world are consolidating their positions whilst decidedly un-pretty, hardworking musicians are finding it harder than ever to break even. And as for the major labels ‘not caring for genuine artists’, they at least pour some money, however little, into artist development. How much money has Kim Dotcom poured back into the creation of the arts? Shit all.

    Neither yourselves nor Kim Dotcom care to DEFEND internet freedom, instead you care to EXPLOIT it. And if record labels get their way and other, more fundamental freedoms of speech and expression go down with the pirate ship, I think it’s less realistic to blame governments and suits than it is to blame YOU. That the ‘bad guys’ want an end to internet freedom is a surprise to no one. But you’ll end that freedom if you give them legitimate excuse – the loss of revenue – to wall up the web. If you care about the freedom of the internet, don’t give freedom a bad name by equating it with theft.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Namor-Principe-Dos-Mares/100000711648912 Namor Principe Dos Mares

    Poor RIAA dudes, thay have no clue what they are doing LMAO  totally lost 

    And anyone who defend the big corporations is a dumb fuck

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