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RIAA, MPAA Copyright Warnings: Facts and Fiction

This week several scary stories surfaced about how the MPAA and RIAA are negotiating with ISPs on how to deal with copyright infringers. Even though it was often presented as news, those who look deeper will realize that this is nothing new at all, just the same old threats dressed up in a new jacket.

It’s has been a good week for the entertainment industry lobbyists. Hundreds of news outlets wrote in detail about how the RIAA and MPAA are negotiating with Internet service providers to warn alleged copyright infringers. No one seemed to notice that this isn’t really news as they’ve been working together for years, with ISPs passing on warnings to their customers on behalf of the studios.

It all started with rumors about two US ISPs, Comcast and AT&T, who were said to be doing a three-strikes deal with the RIAA. It soon became known that this rumor was completely fabricated, but not before hundreds of other news oulets reproduced the story. At the end of the week it turned out that there was no news at all.

Yes, the RIAA, MPAA and other outfits do plan to send copyright infringement warnings to ISPs, but they’ve been doing so for at least half a decade. Every other month these Hollywood lobbyists pitch their anti-piracy efforts to the public, and that’s exactly what they are paid for. This doesn’t mean, however, that something is about to change.

The anti-piracy outfits are happy with all the free publicity of course, that is exactly what they are after. Their purpose is to scare people. In this post we hope to clear up some of the misunderstandings, as we show that the scary stories published this week have no substance at all.

Copyright infringement warnings?

For years, content owners such as record labels or movie studios have been sending copyright infringement notices to ISPs, who are legally obliged to forward these to their customers. Some ISPs simply ignore them, while others faithfully forward the emails to the customer account associated with the infringing IP-address. Many ISPs don’t keep records of these events.

So, is my ISP spying on me?

No. This is a common misunderstanding. ISPs don’t look into your specific downloading behavior, they never have and there is no indication that this will change anytime in the near future. All the ‘evidence’ comes from organizations that work for the copyright holders.

What do they know about me?

If you receive a warning, all copyright holders know about you at this stage is your IP-address and what files were (partially) shared via your account, or more accurately – the bill payer’s account. The MPAA, RIAA and others don’t know your name and they never will unless they get a court order forcing your ISP to hand over the information. In the bigger picture, this is very rare.

Information provided in a typical copyright warning.

infringement warning

How did they track me down?

The copyright holders hire companies such as BayTSP and DtecNet to track down people who share certain titles on BitTorrent and other file-sharing networks. They join the swarm and request files from others. When someone shares a piece of the file with them they log the IP-address, look up the ISP and send out a copyright infringement notice automatically. Unlike the file-sharers, these companies are authorized to download these files, so they are not infringing copyright themselves.

Will I get sued if I receive a warning through my ISP?

No. These copyright infringement warnings are not related to any legal action. Copyright holders do go after people who share their work on file-sharing networks, but this has nothing to do with the warnings they send out via ISPs.

Will they take my Internet away?

No. Although there is a lot of talk about “three strikes” policies, no ISP has agreed (or was forced) to disconnect users after they receive their third warning. In New Zealand they came close to implementing a law that would require ISPs to do this, but this proposal was pulled.

In France they are also considering three strikes legislation, but this has not passed into action yet. In Ireland the largest ISP Eircom said it would disconnect repeated infringers only if they receive a court order.

It is worth mentioning though that ISPs may cut off people whenever they think it’s necessary. Cox does this in the US for example, without an agreement with the MPAA or RIAA. ISPs have terms and conditions and most forbid copyright infringement, but really this is just to cover their own backs under the law.

Do I have to be worried?

Receiving a regular infringement notice is nothing to be worried about. However, if you download copyrighted files without authorization from the copyright holder you are breaking the law in some countries. If you receive a warning without having shared anything yourself (which happens quite often) then there’s nothing to worry about.

Can I protect (hide) myself?

If you don’t want to be spied on when using BitTorrent the best option is to hide your IP-address. You can do so by subscribing to a VPN service or by using software such as TorrentPrivacy. Blocklist software such as PeerGuardian is often recommended, but it is also highly ineffective as the lists are never fully up-to date or accurate.

What’s the point in all this?

The MPAA and RIAA don’t want their products on file-sharing networks and they use these warning emails to deter people from sharing these files with others. Since it’s much cheaper (and effective) than suing people, this is now their strategy of choice. Using news outlets to spread their doom and gloom scenarios is just part of their operation.

In the future the amount of warnings they send out to alleged infringers will increase and the studios and ISPs will work together to keep the associated operating costs down, if that’s not what they’ve already been doing in their recent meetings. It’s just the old model, scaled up with a rumor or two on top.

Let’s move on already.

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  • magicanimal

    Another great tip is to simply download things from artists and studios that aren’t playing the entertainment industry game to begin with. The mainstream music industry is artistically bankrupt, and the big movies are made by committee with budget and sales taking the reins.

    Even if you’re getting it for free, downloading their crap means you’re still mentally their slave.

  • mauritz

    Thx!

  • wtf

    Why are you promoting programs like PeerGuardian? It’s commonly known that it is crap and has currently half the internets on its blocklist, including major trackers. Please remove the link – stuff like PG should never be mentioned. It simply doesn’t work.

  • Brother T

    has Peerguardian actually been “proven” ineffective in action, or is that conclusion purely theoretical?

    I can see how it could be ineffective, but i’m yet to hear any word of PG failing.

  • Hom3r

    I agree with ‘wtf’. PG is one of the worst solutions on the planet. Imho bluetack does work for the MAFIAA, and a lot of the entries in their lists support that.

    I once used PG for a few months, I got two DMCA notices during that period.
    When I wasn’t using PG? None at all.

  • Universal Turing Machine

    There must be some legal ground here couldt eztv just tell these companies that they do not have permission to use there service and or tracker and have them under computer misuse act.

    They have no law inforcement rights,there for no right to work.

    it seems a very big legal mess for them lets hope they pick on the wrong guy.

    IP laws were never meant to abused like the MPAA RIAA IFPI do.

    RIAA MPAA IFPI Bitch’s Suck

  • NubCakes

    @5: “bluetack does work for the MAFIAA, and a lot of the entries in their lists support that.”

    Oh right you nutcase – why don’t you share some of these entries that “support” this amazing claim you’ve made then?

  • Singularity

    Very interesting. I’ve been using PeerGuardian for over 2 years, and I’ve never gotten a warning since then.

    Receiving a warning form my ISP is what made me find PeerGuardian in the first place. I did not know it was held in such low esteem.

    Can anyone recommend a well-regarded VPN service?

  • Hacker/pirates of the world UNITE

    you ip is on it numnutcakes

  • omg

    Thanks !!

  • Ghost

    @8

  • Ghost

    @8
    I believe The Pirate Bay is going to start offering a VPN service soon, look back at the older story’s and read the oen titled ‘Pirate Bay Announces IPREDATOR Global Anonymity Service’.

  • Broyd

    I disagree with wtf regarding PeerGuardian.

    I use it and wouldn’t run without it!

    I am with a western Canadian ISP and my cousin was downloading movies like crazy with eMule (but this discussion applies to any P2P software). He got a total of 5 warnings in two months from his ISP, exactly like the above. The warnings also stated that the ISP would turn over his personal information if served a court order.

    I set him up with PeerGuardian and he hasn’t had any more warnings in over two years! And IT HASN’T AFFECTED HIS eMule PERFORMANCE ONE LITTLE BIT.

    I also use PeerGuardian and download a whole mix of stuff using torrents. I have NEVER had a warning. My cousin and I both use the same ISP.

    In addition I enable torrent encryption.

    So … for me … using these tools works VERY well.

    If you are going to get stuff from open trackers like PirateBay in addition to private trackers, then I believe the use of these tools is just plain prudent.

    There is no doubt that when you block more than a billion IP addresses, that some poor ‘innocent’ folks will be blocked along with the real baddies. But its easy to set up exemptions to the blocklists. If, for example, you discover a tracker thats in a blocklist, then you simply create a new permit list. These ‘permit’ blocklists override the blocked IP addresses. The tracker BitMe is a good example of this.

    Anyway, the choice as to whether you use PeerGuardian or not is up to the individual. And just like antivirus software, your protection is only as good as the latest virus definition files you are currently using.

    And finally, the PeerGuardian blocklists are CONSTANTLY updated, nearly every day. So again, The choice is yours :)

  • RobbingHood

    ^^@13 Broyd^^
    Well said. Me too, 2-3 years in the UK using Virgin (Record Label owner….) and PeerGuardian, not one infringement yet.

  • HNicolai

    “Blocklist software such as PeerGuardian is often recommended, but it is also highly ineffective as the lists are never fully up-to date or accurate.”

    It should be:

    “Blocklist software such as PeerGuardian2 = shit, what it does is that it block 50% of the internet. It dosen’t block the Anti-p2p-grups, but it block alot of other peers. A better to protect you is to find a (dog)shit and put it in a bag, then if the MPAA/MAFIAA/IFPI…etc knock on your door then you put on your mouse and say that you haven’t used the mouse in long time.”

  • Anonymous

    If you want an alternative to Bluetack focused on not blocking the innocent, there’s IpfilterX

  • ju

    never used peer guardian and never received a warning. but then again i dont know anyone who has. theyre not big on ISP warnings in australia, thank christ

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for clarifying these issues. With all of the chatter flying around various sites I knew I could count on TF to give it to me straight.

  • Brother T

    Singularity, i have exactly the same experience! i got warning from my ISP, and basicly freaking out, sure that “THEM” would come and sue my balls off :-S

    after the panic has stopped i got PG and have never heard from them again.

    I won’t rule that i’ve just been lucky ever since(even tho it happened severel years ago), and i can’t deny that pg gives of loads of false positives…in fact, i know it does.

  • TorreN

    Thanks for clearing all of this up. It really helps for those of us who have had problems.

    I’m looking for torrent uploaders email me: xignotusx[AT]g m a i l . c o m

  • Anonymous

    “Even if you’re getting it for free, downloading their crap means you’re still mentally their slave.”

    You’re reading my comments! Even though my comments are free, you’re still mentally my slave.

  • http://www.10ch.org/ www.10ch.org

    “Let?s move on already.”
    But if nobody will believe them, what new rumors or tactics will they cook up?

  • Anonymous

    by HNicolai

    “Blocklist software such as PeerGuardian2 = shit, what it does is that it block 50% of the internet.”

    I’m so glad that I know your in that half.
    Watching PG block names of known anti-p2p companys is a whole lot better than letting them connect.

    So instead you let them monitor you so that the other 10% of innocent D/L’s can connect to you?

    I’ve got two words for you which I cant write here.

  • Im “anonymous” too.

    “Watching PG block names of known anti-p2p companys is a whole lot better than letting them connect.”

    No it doesn’t !!!

    PG2 BLOCK 50% OF THE INTERNET, BUT IT DOSEN’T BLOCK A SINGLE ANTI-P2P COMPANY !!!!!

    anti-p2p companys gets money, because WB and other companys pay them. The reason WB (and co.) get money is because they suing people. IF anti-p2p companys don’t sue any people, then they don’t get any money! IF a company like MPAA see that there ip is blocked by PG2, then they change ip! (HOW TO: Its easy if you have a dynamic ip (like me), but its different if you have a static ip, if they have a static ip then they just buy a new subscription of there ISP! They can’t earn money if there ip is blocked, so YEAH THEY BUY A NEW SUBSCRIPTION!!!)
    The IP is still blocked by PG2, but it isn’t used by a ANTI-P2P COMPANY!!!
    Now PG2 block a ip owned by a “normal” man, AND NOT BY A ANTI-P2P COMPANY, This way you block MILLIONS of people, BUT NOT A SINGLE ANTI-P2P COMPANY!!!

    GET IT???

  • Who Remembers Apple Jacks? I Do :)

    fucking kids arguing over PG working or not, LOL@theCapLockQueen above me

  • extu

    Regarding ‘WB and other companys’: they don’t get any money by suing people, all of that is wasted on legal fees.

    they get money by selling movies and music cds at extreme prices.

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  • malignant

    wow the shill comments towards PG are beyond comprehension.

    I dont use the standard pg block list I customized my own. Every time I open my torrent client and leach/seed anything it gets lit up by military, corporations of all kinds Yes their are a lot of false positives. I block/ban on average 100+ anti-p2p ips every time I use BT (which is rarely binaries ftw) Does it help? sure it does.

  • Time Dalkat

    We will lose. ACTA is being jerry-rigged in closed quarters across the globe by our leaders and their masters as we speak. Our tax dollars will go to protect these copyright holders. Get on the VPN/proxy bandwagon as soon as possible.

  • anon2

    so which is better pg2 or IpfilterX? how to use IpfilterX with utorrent? for the ignorant (me), any info or link to a guide, please, anyone?

  • Widget

    @24 Learn2subnet, dynamic IPs don’t work like that :p

    I’ve never gotten a DMCA notice, and it probably has everything to do with me not downloading any RIAA owned music and maybe only 1 or 2 movies over the last 3 years. I force outgoing torrent encryption just in case, even though I doubt Comcast does any packet scanning.

  • potatoe man

    thnx for the good article

  • IL

    After listening to the news from 1999 to 2005 I realized I will never buy another thing from anything RIAA associated ever again EVER. If I ever end up in court I will make a mess.

    I think talented artists need to move forward NOW.

  • vaXzine

    The very first comment on this thread (magicanimal)is the most important one to read.

  • Old Hippy Dude

    ““Watching PG block names of known anti-p2p companys is a whole lot better than letting them connect.”

    Of course this total moron can’t work out that because PG blocklist says X is anti-p2p doesn’t mean crap.

    As pointed out already, anti-p2p get paid to send emails to offending IPs so the last thing they are going to do is continue using an IP that’s been discovered and/or has any public discernible relation to their company identity – it means less potential income.

    The other morons can’t work out that just because they recieved X number of warnings and then began using PG and recieved none it doesn’t mean PG stopped any warnings. Many people have never recieved any warnings and never used PG.

    SO many stupid newbs at this stupid blog…

  • hellonearthis

    Isn’t the below entrapment?

    “The copyright holders hire companies such as BayTSP and DtecNet to track down people who share certain titles on BitTorrent and other file-sharing networks. They join the swarm and request files from others. When someone shares a piece of the file with them they log the IP-address, look up the ISP and send out a copyright infringement notice automatically. Unlike the file-sharers, these companies are authorized to download these files, so they are not infringing copyright themselves.”

  • Anonymous

    Hm, there’s one hole this article hasn’t filled for me. The past two infringement notices I received were for a movie I have never seeded/downloaded on that connection & a game I never seeded/downloaded on that connection.

    I think some of the anti-p2p companies have gotten lazy and just send a notice to every IP on the tracker.

    Then again, I got these notices over a year ago so maybe things have changed (for the better?) since then.

  • Anonymous

    Same guy as 37 here, I forgot to mention that while I wasn’t seeding/downloading them, they were stopped. Yet I had the torrent client open still.

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that Peer Guardian only prevents a direct connection between your computer and an anti-P2P machine, but the latter has already received everyone’s addresses from the tracker.

    This is the more important reason why this software is ineffective rather than the lists not being up to date. Every time you download something you are publically broadcasting your address and saying to everyone who is listening ‘I’m involved in this torrent’.

    I think people don’t fully realize this. If everyone did, there would be a huge demand for a completely anonymized P2P network. There really is none, which may in part be due to the ‘you have nothing to worry about’ atmosphere also spread by this article.

  • PG works and works very well.

    LOL at all the anti-PG trolls. I’ve used it for years 24/7 and wouldn’t think of not using it. The tards that always come out from under their rocks to whine about PG or Bluetack are 99.9% of the time either too stupid to configure and use it properly, have found themselves on the blacklist due to their own behavior (or poor choice in ISP’s), or they’re associated with industry/antipiracy companies being blocked. ;)

    As with any security, PG is just one layer in a multi-layered configuration you should be using. Stop listening to industry shills and blowhards who don’t know wtf they’re talking about. There’s one very simple reason millions use PG.

    It works.

  • whatever

    Yea. They should outlaw frackin locks too. I mean if I want to go take some of Jay Leno’s collector cars for a ride I should be allowed to right? And when I want some money for crack I should be allowed to walk into the bank and take all the money I want. And I should never have to work. All of you need to pay my frackin bills for me.

  • wtf

    @13
    PG only works if you assume, that
    1) anti-p2p companys are stupid enough to identify their ip-ranges
    2) PG people are smart enough to find those ip ranges
    3) anti-p2p people don’t use dial-ups

    Well, 1) and 2) are disputable. But I hope nobody will try to tell me that those anti-p2p people are too dumb to use the same dial-ip connections as you and me. As the leaked emails of MediaDefenders have proven, those people DO use dial ups. This makes PG absolute useless because you can’t block all the internets. Well, in fact you can, but that wouldn’t be in your interest. Ergo, PG is crap and will be crap. It’s snake oil. It makes you feel better but it won’t protect you from infringement warnings and law suits.

  • wtf

    @40
    So, what layers of ‘configuration’ are you using? What could there possibly be to protect you from anti-p2p companys collecting you IP? You use PG and … some kind of Voodoo sacrifice? If you use BT, your IP is known to the tracker. If some random evil RIAA guy asks the tracker for sources, he will probably get your IP. It doesn’t matter if you have PG, he will have your IP and this will give him the personal details of the account holder. Thus, you’re fucked. Unless you’re using some neighbor’s unsecured Wifi, then your neighbor is fucked. Either way. your PG is useless.

    I never used PG and never got a IP warning/law suit. Just luck, I guess.

  • Broyd

    @42
    I believe that PG is not 100% effective. The ways to foil PG are pretty much as you suggest … use dialup accounts with dynamic IP addresses that haven’t been reported as bad (yet). And yes, anti-P2P people’s IP addresses may not be known as in the blocklists (yet).

    But as I mentioned before, (and others here have also mentioned), I have never had a warning letter while using PG while other folks using my ISP that wern’t using PG certainly have had.

    Hey, I am not expecting to never get a warning … I’m just saying that so far, I haven’t.

    And for those folks who haven’t gotten a warning and don’t use PG, whose to say that their particular ISP passes such warnings on to their clients if they are notified by an anti-P2P group?

    And since we are questioning things and hashing this over … how do I know that maybe you and/or some others expressing similar anti-PeerGuardian thoughts don’t belong to an anti-P2P group yourselves? Maybe your posting of remarks against PG are your attempts at convincing us that is worthless and we shouldn’t use it at all just so that you have a better chance of exposing and identifying us … hmmm?

    How would I / could I know this for sure?

    Certainly since sending out warning letters seems to be the cheapest and easiest method of trying to scare and discourage the sharing of copyrighted material, if you were from an anti-P2P group you would have a compelling interest in enabling this as much as possible.

    @36 and @39
    In all of the legal cases I have read about, the courts have to PROVE that you are sharing copyrighted material. This means that they must be able to identify that material on your PC, either by retrieving a list of files you are sharing or by actually downloading a piece of an actual file you are sharing …

    Now PG prevents anyone in the blocklists from establishing any form of TCP/IP connection to your PC; it’s as if there was nothing at that IP address.

    Now if the anti-P2P group checking you out can’t establist any connection to your PC, I find it hard to see how they could prove you are sharing anything. They may be pretty sure you are, but can they get proof of it?

    I think it is up to the individual to decide if they want to use PG or not, and hey, whatever they decide is fine by me. Unlike me, I know PG isn’t perfect, but it’s a LOT better than using nothing (chuckle…)

    And finally, someone once told me … “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’y make him drink”!

    :))

  • my 2 cent car crash.

    Nice story got it bookmarked.
    I can look back at it for the new meanies BayTSP and DtecNet as reference to look out for.
    (anti p2p)
    MediaDefender/MediaSentry the older ones had gotten blocked (w/pg2) tons of times useing the noid.
    And when this happens its best to turn it off imo.

  • Dem Fan
  • Dem Fan

    Sorry. It’s me again! For those who cannot access the Demonoid forums, here is the (long) explanation against Peer Guardian:

    PG2 is a placebo. Of course, you see some addresses blocked. The fucking thing blocks ONE-THIRD of the Internet address space, by its own claim.

    What you do NOT know is whether the addresses this piece of shit blocked were, in fact, the very peers who had the pieces you were downloading.

    By inducing and then reinforcing paranoia, PG2 does more harm to torrenting than the RIAA, the MPAA and the FBI combined. I’ve said it before – if PG2 didn’t exist, the MPAA would have invented it. Smiley

    Here’s just a small selection of the problems with this overhyped garbage:

    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38295

    The Media Defender internal email leak offered plenty of information for the taking. MediaDefender-Defenders said that they hoped that the email leak will prove to be a viable tool to protect against anti-P2P efforts. This is something BlueTack has been trying to do. After the email leak, a text file that compiles the complete IP (Internet Protocol) list Media Defender used while dropping fake files onto various P2P sites and networks was posted. While judging the effectiveness of these lists had proven to be an impossible task before the major leak, the effectiveness can now be tested.

    Slyck began the investigation when BlueTack’s ‘Paranoid’ IP filter blocked one of TVUnderground’s new eDonkey2000 servers. A request for comment or information on the matter to BlueTack’s team went unanswered. To this day, why BlueTack has blocked only one of TVUnderground’s servers is unknown. In the meantime, Slyck is currently in the possession of a copy of BlueTack’s IP filter lists, and further investigation into related matters appeared warranted.

    According to the BlueTack website, “B.I.S.S. is a site dedicated to improving the safety and awareness of all our members and guests, providing News, Security articles, Software Reviews, Technical Support, Guides, IP Research and Free Software needed to help us keep our connections to the net and each other safe, secure, and free from unwelcome intruders.”

    Among the things offered are the blocklists, which have been met with either acceptance by the file-sharing community or complete rejection. Some say that the blocklists allow users to simply block any anti-filesharing company and allow users to connect with non-industry IPs. Others say that there is no way to get the right IPs before the IPs are changed to different addresses, thereby rendering the filters ineffective. It’s been the subject of debate for quite some time amongst many experts with no real way to test the lists, at least until the Media Defender email leak.

    The ‘Paranoid’ eMule IP filter was retrieved on September 27, 2007. The Level1 IP blacklist, which is supposed to block all known anti-p2p IPs, was retrieved on September 30, 2007. The idea behind getting these lists now is to offer ample time for Media Defender’s now public IPs to be added to the lists for a much more effective blocklist for PeerGuardian users.

    Slyck then obtained a copy of the publicly available 14.3MB compressed text file which lists all of the Media Defender’s IP addresses. At this point, it became obvious that testing such a large volume of IPs would prove to be an overly time-consuming challenge, at least by hand. In order to alleviate this problem, it was best to test one particular IP range. Conveniently enough, the first range started with 116. Slyck then decided to test all of the IPs that started with the number 116.

    The total number of IPs used by Media Defender starting with 116 was 1,474. Obviously, BlueTack did block all IPs that started with 116, but how many Media Defender IPs were successfully blocked? When Slyck investigated, there was a common theme that blocklists seemingly jumped over several ranges used by Media Defender. After some extensive study using the Level1 list for anti-p2p companies and the ‘Paranoid’ list, BlueTack would have successfully blocked 16 IPs. Thus, this sample test offered 1.09% protection against Media Defender in that range.

    The IPs that were successfully blocked were: 116.255.1.109, 116.255.1.154, 116.255.1.244, 116.255.1.27, 116.255.1.52, 116.255.1.85, 116.215.157.243, 116.212.14.223, 116.199.202.170, 116.199.202.240, 116.199.207.83, 116.199.207.84, 116.199.226.78 , 116.199.227.11, 116.199.227.27, 116.199.227.67. The remaining 1,458 IPs would still be allowed through even with these two filters being used today.

    While BlueTack may still perpetuate the idea that their filters are 99% effective, these latest findings will only fuel criticisms towards BlueTack’s actual effectiveness. A complete test might not be possible short of creating a simple program to test every single number or spending weeks hand-testing every single Media Defender IP address. In the mean ime, it seems very apparent that BlueTack’s filters have a few holes.

    And that was tested against known and published addresses!! In order to catch those 16 addresses (probably by dumb luck and the law of large numbers), BlueTack also blocked more than 4 million INNOCENT addresses in the same range.

    ==============================================================
    A SECOND TEST:

    I am convinced that it is not authentic. I did a reverse lookup on 500 or so somewhat randomly picked addresses from the 5.3 million addresses in that list. Look at the results — it’s pretty clear that the vast majority of the items in the list are residential dynamic IP addresses from all over the world.

    ===============================================================

    http://www.physorg.com/news110035755.html

    Not Much Anonymity for Unprotected File-Sharers: Researchers Examine P2P Networks
    The same technology that allows easy sharing of music, movies and other content across a network also allows government and media companies easy access to who is illegally downloading that content.

    “Note that it is not our intention here to examine how accurate and comprehensive these lists are, though this would be interesting and challenging future work.”

    =============
    “after a quick look through the document, found elsewhere (PDF) (thanks again guys), all their stats are based on a couple of assumptions: that the blocklist contains no false positives, and more importantly, that it fails to contain no address that should be included. i will leave it to others to comment on the likelyhood of these assumptions being correct.”
    ===============
    FROM PG;s ow website:

    Well, it is accurate in the sense that it blocks everything on your blocklist.
    It is impossible to know _all_ the addresses to block

    PeerGuardian is known to be incompatible with McAfee and BlackICE firewalls. Outpost is also known to cause a problem if you shut down PG2 while it is running. There is currently no way around this, so we recommend you try switching to another firewall

    PeerGuardian blocked someone, should I be worried?
    Well, it was blocked, so why would you worry?

    PeerGuardian is slowing down my connection!
    This occurs because of the way PeerGuardian blocks packets, not connections.

    PeerGuardian is blocking an IP like crazy, should I worry?
    PeerGuardian will constantly block IPs. Many times you will see IPs get blocked three or more times before giving up – this is due to the way most computers handle reliable connecting. After a period of time, people may retry to see if you are responding yet. This does not mean people are spying on you.

    A block list is a list of bad IP ranges that are know to spy on people’s computers.

    This software is provided ‘as-is’, without any express or implied warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages arising from the use of this software.

    Total of IP’s being blocked right now:

    * 2,377,645,666

    first things first, if the government was and/or are spying on you right now, it will be on a IP range that is not on our blocklists and is a secret range of IPs, second thing is, if the government was and/or are spying on you right now, they would be doing it on a whole diffrent level.

    ==================================

    I have more. Lots more. Smiley

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  • Freakfreak

    I have been using Peerguardian for several years now – 24/7.

    They are blocking a LOT of adresses – and probably are a bit paranoid as well.
    But using Peerguardian has never prevented any intended sharing -neither has it ever degraded my up- or download performances.

    And in the rare occasion I had troubble to connect to peers in small crowds, disabling PG never improved any sharing either.

    Right now it blocks connecting attempts from BayTSP and it also holds suckers like the moviex-scumbags at bay.

    If you like to fuck with random contacts without using condoms – go ahead! You might be lucky and get away without any STD anyway.

    But for torrenting using PeerGuardian is like fucking with a condom: a very minor inconvenience that can be immesurably beneficial if you acctually happen to need it – even without ever noticing you actually did need it right at that moment!

    So my advice can only be: play it save!
    Use condoms when fucking – and use PeerGuardian when torrenting.

    ;D

  • my 2 cent car crash.

    The blocks I spoke of happened long before the Media Defender email leak.

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  • SL

    Lol @ the anti PG trolls who probably work for the MAFIAA.

    Sure its not 100% then nothing is, going by their retarded logic, its not worth using condoms to prevent STDs because they arent 100%.

    In a way, its good not everyone uses it because then the MAFIAA can focus on the suckers who make it easy to catch them.

  • Another way to hide yourself is TOR

    TOR (TOR Onion Router) provides protection that would be VERY expensive for law firms and/or research companies to crack.

    It slows things down quite a bit, but leaves you protected in a way that would not be profitable to track.

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  • Anonymous

    While PeerGuardian does not provide protection on par with a VPN service, it does allow for some added security and anonymity. You have to remember that a good deal of IP logging and swarm poisoning is fully automated. In addition to that, when everyone in a swarm uses PG; it speeds up the torrent by blocking leechers who have no legitimate intentions. My download speeds have always been HIGHER with PG enabled, and I almost never have failed hash checks.

    People who whine about being blocked by PG’s filters typically are being blocked for a good reason. Lies about PG not contributing at all to prevention or blocking nearly all legit peers are spread by anti-p2p groups. My best guess would be that IP blocking is at least 50% effective.

    Concerning tor, it is considered abuse of the tor network to run p2p through it. Pay for VPN service like everyone else damnit. Tor used to be only a minor slowdown when it first came out, before all of these ass holes started running BitTorrent through it.

    Beyond that, nothing that you can do will ever provide total anonymity. If a powerful government such as the United States or European Union wanted to track you down, they could do it. Sure, it might cost them millions, but they have trillions. Fortunately, 99.9% of us aren’t worth it.

    So, to sum it up:

    1: Use a VPN or similar Service (be sure that you can trust the provider).

    2: Use an IP blocklist (PG2, etc.)

    3: Run a good, properly configured firewall and related security programs.

    4: Encrypt you drives with at least AES-256 encryption. Some newer drives have built in encryption.

    5: Erase all data via the DoD 7 pass method. Keep a boot & nuke copy around for full drive wipes.

    6: Shred all documents and old media before discarding.

    7: If at all possible, run Linux. Windows and Mac are insecure. Know how to securely configure your OS.

    8: Use the Firefox or Google Chrome as your browser. Again, be sure to learn how to securely configure your browser.

    9: (Don’t try if you’re not ultra hardcore/pro) Rig your machine with low yield, high temp explosives.

    10: Don’t be an idiot. The human factor is usually the primary flaw in security. If trying number nine sounds sensible to you, you’re probably an idiot.

    11: Obviously, I left things out, considering how little time I spent on this post. You should be able to figure the rest out.

    If you don’t like what I said, QQ.

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    i think if you are so worried about getting into legal trouble…try doing some research on the little “green onion”. it works wonders. it does slow down your connection to trackers and such…but its an amazing program. Also….theres nothing horribly wrong with peerguardian…but it does not always update correctly. also…anyone using P2P programs….crawl in a hole and go to sleep. because eventually your computer is going to get some malware and do the same!!!

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    I live in a third world country and was THRILLED I could access tv shows and movies that are unavailable here with uTorrent. However,about two months ago, it downloads … and then disappears before it uploads. I was told by my local computer geek guys that this was a problem with my particular server, however, I talked to a friend today who is now having the same problem with a completely different server. Is it the country? Or is this the worldwide ‘crackdown’ we’ve been all been threatened with come to pass? By the way, I was told on another forum, similar to yours, that it was my router having been ‘bricked’. Well, if that was the case, how come my friend’s having the very same problem with uTorrent and mininova without the same ip?

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