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RIAA Wants Court To Shut Down Limewire

The RIAA has asked a New York District Court to shut down the world’s most installed file-sharing application, Limewire. The record labels argue that the Gnutella-based download client might have caused billions of dollars in lost revenue and that it’s therefore one of the largest threats to the music industry’s revenue.

limewireThe RIAA and the company behind Limewire have been fighting out a legal dispute since 2006, but in recent weeks the case seems to have been moving along faster than ever before.

Last month, a US Court ruled that the Lime Group, the company behind Limewire, was liable for the copyright infringements committed by its users. Two weeks later the Lime Group asked the court to reconsider this judgment. This request was followed by one from the RIAA, asking the court to shut down Limewire via a permanent injunction.

The RIAA argues that Limewire’s operation has to be stopped immediately, to avoid it doing any more harm to the music industry in the future. Interestingly enough, very little argumentation or evidence is given for any real losses suffered by the record labels.

“It is patently obvious that the rampant illegal conduct that Lime Wire intentionally induced, and for which it has been adjudged liable, will continue uninterrupted day after day unless and until the Court issues an injunction to rein in this massive infringing operation,” RIAA’s lawyers wrote to the Court.

“Every day that Lime Wire’s conduct continues unabated guarantees harm to Plaintiffs that money damages cannot and will not compensate,” RIAA’s legal team continues. “The scope of the infringements that Lime Wire induced – and that continue to this day – boggles the mind.

The RIAA is right in saying that Limewire users have committed, and are committing many millions of infringements, but there is very little evidence for the massive damage that this has cost. Thus far, a real assessment of the claimed losses has been lacking in most file-sharing related legal cases.

“It does not require sophisticated mathematics to calculate that the likely damage award in this case will run into the hundreds of millions, if not the billions of dollars,” the RIAA argues. However, one of the few academic papers (pdf) that looked at the relationship between actual downloads and lost sales to the music industry has found that there’s no direct correlation.

With that said, the outcome of this case could potentially change the file-sharing landscape for good. Despite BitTorrent being the leading file-sharing protocol for several years already, Limewire is most likely the most installed P2P application on the market. In 2008 LimeWire was the most installed P2P application with an impressive market-share of 37%, compared to 14% for runner-up uTorrent.

If the RIAA score a victory in court against Limewire, hundreds or millions of people will have to seek an alternative download client, which might mean a significant boost in user numbers for some of the major BitTorrent applications.

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  • 1000blabbities

    1st. Limewire ce la viste.

    Though still there are millions of other peer-to-perr. Sneakernet, Freenet, Frostwire, you name it we got it. Limewire is only the brandname of getting stuff for noobs really…. dont get me wrong its good for some stuff… but not really much more.

    http://blabbities.tumblr.com

  • Brandon

    Never been on limewire heard to many bad stories about it

  • fleshTH

    Gnutella used to be good until limewire came about. I say go for it. Take it down.

  • ¥en

    Can’t believe they have accused limewire of inducing “rampant illegal conduct” when they strongly discourage infringement on their site and effectively just provide a client. Surely they’re no more liable for these supposed “lost sales” than ISPs or computer manufacturers? What’s next? Taking Microsoft etc. to court for providing an operating system which allows people to run Limewire

  • SomeGuy

    LimeWire should be sued for every penny they have for profiting from piracy.

  • the awesomeness

    uTorrent FTW…limewire shouldn’t be allowed to exist. I’m pretty sure its the cause of the room temperature iq’s found on the internet.

  • anonymous

    Using Limewire causes herpes, hair to grow on your hands and, if not stopped immediately, America will lose the war. If Limewire is not stopped, nuclear armageddon is just around the corner. Mark my words…

  • Phoenix

    how about they shutdown windoze next !

  • politux

    I used LimeWire in 2003, maybe? Or was it 1992…

  • Anon

    the very idea of charging money for limewire pro which is inferior to almost all the FREE bitorrent clients is absurd

  • StopTheMadness

    “Interestingly enough, very little argumentation or evidence is given for any real losses suffered by the record labels.”

    “The RIAA is right in saying that Limewire users have committed, and are committing many millions of infringements, but there is very little evidence for the massive damage that this has cost. Thus far, a real assessment of the claimed losses has been lacking in most file-sharing related legal cases.”

    Is there ever? Usually the MAFIAA simply pulls numbers out of their collective ass, and lie when the truth can’t support their absurd claims.

    “It does not require sophisticated mathematics to calculate that the likely damage award in this case will run into the hundreds of millions, if not the billions of dollars,”

    I call bullshit. Show us the proof, MAFIAA punks. As if they ever have.

    A fart in the direction of those greedmonger pigs!

  • Nick

    maybe if they shut down limewire, all the kiddies will learn to use bittorrent. go for it

  • Dominic

    The only people who use Limewire are 12 year old script kiddies posting “hacking” videos on Youtube with CMD

  • gumbi

    haha frostwire anyone

  • Sendaii

    Doesn’t LimeWire have a content filter, or is that something else that I’m thinking of? It won’t matter a damn anyway, it’s way too late for Gnutella to be stopped. The users will just move over to FrostWire, or another Gnutella client.

    It would also be nice if the RIAA stated some real (read: not made up and properly calculated) figures for once, instead of the “OMG BILLIONS” line that they keep coming out with. I don’t know how anyone could take them seriously, especially as they want another company that has just as much right to exsist as they do to stop trading just to suit their outdated business model. This has to stop.

  • Patera

    If Limewire goes because of this reasoning than what is to stop the RIAA and MPAA from going after bittorrent users next ? Or for that matter any other file sharing applications.

    It doesn’t really matter if you enjoy the services of Limewire or not its the principal and the precedent of the ruling that we should be concerned about in the future.

  • Barry

    RIAA to Govt.

    SHUT
    DOWN
    EVERYTHING!!!!

  • Sendaii

    @15 Patera: Which rock have you been living under? The RIAA and MPAA have been going after BitTorrent users for years. Like I said, it wouldn’t matter much in the long run anyway, there’s hundreds of other clients.

  • Freedom.Fighter

    As week and as terrible as Limewire is, and as horrid as it is that they charge people for an inferior client, this case would set an even more terrible legal precedent: Clients are responsible for their transfers. If Limewire goes, the RIAA and MPAA could sue Bittorent Inc. or Vuze or any number of smaller clients. It is very troubling to think that the metaphorical postman would be held responsible for delivering the metaphorical hate mail/bomb. It’s utterly illogical, and constitutionally questionable at best. Here’s hoping Limewire wins. Even though I don’t use it. Even though it charges users. Even though it’s an utterly inferior client. Because the affects of it’s fall aren’t worth the annoyance it would remove.

  • Rivon

    No LimeWire -> use FrostWire ;). No problem.

  • Anonymous

    “RIAA Wants Court To Shut Down Limewire”

    Wahahahahahahahahaaha!
    Breath! Breath Breath!
    Wahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
    Breath! Breath! Breath!
    Whahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
    What a pack of morons!

    There is nothing to take down you idiots!

    You have better to ask the court to shut down internet instead and make computers illegal!

    The Limewire application is a self sufficient client/server application not related to a particular server or tracker.

    There is no central server (unless you insist on not using the nuttella protocol or the magnet link of course).

    Plus it is open source so anyone can grab the source code (and I did like so many others I believe) and continue to develop it.

    “If the RIAA score a victory in court against Limewire, hundreds or millions of people will have to seek an alternative download client. . .”

    Why? They can still continue to use their application regardless of if the company still exist or not.

  • c

    never had a problem with limewire really, until i started paying for it….

    not that i ever download anything illegal…. :oS

  • Yarrr Matey!!

    To RIAA,

    Yeah, go for Limewire. In fact, spend whatever it takes to bring them down, it’ll destroy P2P.

    *snigger*

    Best Wishes,

    Signed: Everyone that knows you’re wasting artist’s money on an exercise in futility.

  • Anonymous

    “maybe if they shut down limewire, all the kiddies will learn to use bittorrent. go for it”

    But Limewire already use the BT network s no need to learn anything.

  • c

    how are limewire profitting from piracy? most of the people using it don’t pay for it for a start. i was idiot enough to kind of pay for it once (well, i got it free bcos i bought some printer ink from a specifically recommended site).

    i don’t know how fantastic other sites are bcos i havent tried them, but i’m content with limewire, i manage to get what i want 99% of the time.

  • paul

    please do take it down, it is a crappy service.

  • a boob

    Those bastards!!!

    Lime them!!!

  • duane

    I don’t actually remember how Gnutella works (it’s been so damn long since I’ve cared about it), but surely there’s no way they can shut down Limewire, because it’s a decentralised thing, right?

    They can stop the company from releasing new clients, but will that even make a difference?

  • Patrick

    Are these guys nuts? Not only do they not have evidence but taking down one client (even a big one) would likely have no long term effect on file sharing. There are dozens (if not more) clients out there, many of which are totally open source, and will continue to propagate no matter how many laws are made against file sharing.

    File sharing between private parties is totally legal and any laws that could be made against it would be unconstitutional.

    I’m not particularly found of lime wire but the legal precedents of this case are potentially horrible. Clients can not be held accountable for the actions of its users any more than gun manufacturer could be held accountable for a shooting or a fertilizer plant held accountable for homemade explosives. It makes no sense.

  • nm

    let the say if it goes or not

  • justsomebloke

    Isn’t Limewire an anachronism this day and age? Can’t believe people still use it.

  • Bubbles

    Wonder if they’ve had their source code and databases stolen yet lol

    Limewire 2 ?

  • C

    Yeah, unfortunately, this isn’t equivalent even to trying to shut down the pirate bay. Limewire is just a client accessing the Gnutella network; in effect, it just is a UI and some protocols.

    The network is completely independent of the company, and the company is pretty damn careful not to in any way encourage piracy (just the opposite, ‘Your license to use the LimeWire program is expressly conditioned upon your agreement to not knowingly use the LimeWire program to share files that are protected by copyright from sharing over P2P networks.’)

    So a loss here would have the legal ramifications that it’s okay to target a software’s creator for illegal use of the software by users. I don’t think it’s possible to overstate how widespread this ruling could be applied were it against Limewire, as I could easily see it being applied to Rapidshare, Bittorrent Inc (as noted above), Youtube…

  • Ang3r

    Ironically, the first time I used it, I downloaded the cracked version of limewire pro, through limewires free client.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s quit selling cameras because they can be used to camrip movies

  • gorehound

    THe RIAA have casued billions of dollars in lost revenue and that it’s therefore one of the largest threats to the music industry’s revenue.

    Go To Hell RIAA & you too MPAA.

    The war is on and we will win not your bloated greedy industry.

  • Toasty

    You know, the word “Damage” has really jumped the shark.

    When I hear or read anything that has “Damage” in it. I immediately think that something or someone was beaten up, given bruises, cuts, or any injury to the anamoty. Whilst, with things, it could be something along the lines of a pipe having a hole in it, which means it’s damaged. Or a disc, that’s scratched, can be considered damaged of the sort.

    The only “Damages” these people are claming, is supposedly a burning hole in their wallets. It just sounds like someone from there just wants a new yacht and so he figures the best way to get money to buy one is to sue everybody he personally considers a threat.

    And the only other “Damage” I see, is these people are destroying their own industry financially, inside and out. And their own refusal to make material actually worth listening or watching, is pushing this forward.

  • burst!

    29. forget “limewire 2″;
    32. lets stop selling people like you keyboards

  • Taylor

    Limewire sucks, if it is brought down whatever, I wouldn’t care. On a side note, I don’t want an RIAA court victory so I hope that it doesn’t.

  • Gargamel

    Holy $hit people still use Limewire?

    O.o

  • internetlol

    This could set an annoying legal precedent, but it won’t change much else. Only idiots use Limewire since everything is mislabeled spam and porn.

  • Whatever

    1. Any P2P method that they bring before a court is the biggest threat to sales. (Why hasn’t a judge never asked: “Wasn’t TPB the biggest threat last week ?” )

    2. They want to stop infringment by shutting down Limewire ? That will really help, shutting down the “official Limewire P2P network”. Ofcourse it will stop all client software working overnight. LOL (for the slow:… never mind)

    I guess this will keep some of the MAFIAA busy with futilities instead of doing serious damage. Just don’t tell them what Gnutella is otherwise they might look for a real target. :-)

  • GP

    They’ll probably get LimeWire turned into another BearShare/SHAREAZA4 clone. They already stole Shareaza’s domain and tried to trademark the name (haven’t found anything to officially say whether that’s going through or not); doing the same to LimeWire wouldn’t be much of a stretch.

  • Threat

    People who are fed up with their greed and lies are the biggest threat to sales…

  • Pete

    Wow. Limewire! That’s an oldie. Wonder if WinMX is still around now.

  • Patera

    @Sendaii

    No rock at all. I am pointing out that if they are able to go after the makers of the software than it opens the door to witch hunts for the makers of torrent software not the torrents themselves….

  • Threat

    People who are fed up with their greed and lies are the biggest threat to sales…

  • tehmetalleer

    Rofl, this is absolutely hilarious…shutting limewire down would probably just reduce the infection rate of numerous trojans and hinder the spread of deceptively-labelled gay porn.

  • musing

    People still use Limewire?

  • Deception

    I don’t feel anything special anymore. RIAA pretty much have the absolute authority to accuse limewire for “whatever”, “whenever”, and “whoever” they want. This is just another case for RIAA acting like a big bully.

    Even big bully get beat up sometime, their time will eventually come sooner or later.

  • Spin

    ”Every day that Lime Wire’s conduct continues unabated guarantees harm to Plaintiffs that money damages cannot and will not compensate”

    hahahahahaha, LOL LMFAO, this greedy bastards have no shame anymore…

  • Spin

    those*

  • Anonymous

    limewire is dead and its full of fake files, cp, spam, and viruses

  • TanMan

    The RIAA and MPAA are evil. Suing consumers, and now suing makers of tools. They make a strong case for not giving the media they “protect” any more consumer money.

  • Preacher

    limewire is for noobs!!!

  • Anonymous

    I used Limewire many years ago. The Gnutella network is filled with poor-quality rips/encodes as well as fake/decoy files and trojan-horse viruses being spammed across the network.

  • Pirate4life

    I’ve used Limewire before, and actually quite liked it, until I came across Bittorrent. I really think that between this attack on Limewire and the Gnutella network in whole, and the recent fall of the Newsgroup site, I think that either more people are going to use bittorrent, sites like Thepiratebay.org, or they’re going to stop downloading, and just not watch movies, or listen to music. Any loss in sale right now could be better linked to the current Global Recession, than Pirating, because I for one still goto Movies, and buy CD’s and pay for TV, I don’t Fast Forward through the commercials either, so these companies need to Fuck off.

  • Adam

    I don’t really understand what they mean by “shutting down Limewire.” It’s not like shutting down Napster, where there’s one location you can attack and everything goes down. The Gnutella network is completely decentralized; there aren’t even any trackers like in BitTorrent. If they mean shutting down the company that makes Limewire, so what? People will still have the program on their computers, and other groups will continue to distribute it. You can’t attack something with no center.

  • jhjk

    they dont two shits if you think that profiting from piracy is also bad, if you download a song for personal use you might aswell go to prison in there eyes

  • noko

    Never used Limewire, but isn’t virtually everyone on it nowadays CP?

    If so, then yeah, take it down.

  • noko

    Uh, everything.

  • Aerilus

    I could under stand the average 70 year old watching Nancy Grace and believing everything that RIAA/main stream media says but judges while the same age should be used to the dirty tactics employed by RIAA and be able to see through them. it is disappointing to see one perspective being taken at face value and the accountability being shifted to the softest target of RIAAs choosing where is the country where there is innocence to guilt is proven and where we are all responsible for our own actions. i suppose i should probably give up on that dream and except that we are socialist and that the government will tell me what is best for me and provide it.

  • Duideka

    When will the MPAA/RIAA learn people who download content would not pay the extortionate prices for it in the first place.

    They don’t lose money since they would not have it regardless.

    The artist gains a fan, and who knows maybe the person who downloaded the song will reccomend it to friends who have spare cash and end up buying it? Word of mouth is the strongest advertising…

    Wish they would stop spending cash on stupid lawsuits and just develop a mega CDN to distribute movies, TV shows, and music globally at reasonable prices.

    Oh ofcourse not, easier to sue the world and make ridiculous amounts of money, scumbags.

    Bet you 100% of the money made from court cases gets funneled into the labels and not the producers.

  • Anonymous

    shut down MSN Messenger and MirC, it can send files to

  • Anon pirate

    The movie industry profits increase year on year, yet they still claim they are losing money!!

    Don’t believe their blatant lies!!!!

    F.ck the MPAA and RIAA

    Sharing is caring!!!!!

  • Pirates+Viruses=HELL

    Hmmmm….! Limewire!
    It’s been a long time since I used it.
    I will install the pro version immediately.

  • seedbox hoster

    Doesn’t limewire own gnutella? Shutting limewire down shuts down a ton of (better) p2p clients used mainly for small files.

    On the other hand, torrents pretty much make limewire and gnutella obsolete.

  • Trelew

    “The RIAA and the company behind Limewire have been fighting out a legal dispute since 2006, but in recent weeks the case seems to have been moving along faster than ever before. ”

    In other words, the corporate bastards got someone in government to find a judge who could be bribed to give a more corporate-friendly decision.

    Sadly, this is going to be nothing more than a “show trial” lacking any real true justice. Corporate greed and power are the sacred in today’s government and courts.

  • n1n3

    Hellooo!! Frostwire :D

  • LemonWire

    Yes! Shut em down!

  • YouKnow

    You could just go old school and say f— torrents and gnutella. well, thats what WinMX did anyway. yea that old program, she’s still up and running…quite well actually. and has managed to keep the riaa and mpaa beasts at bay lol.

    as mentioned before you cant attack a network with no center. try and attack an ocean, and you’ll just get wet. ;)

    winmxworld.com ppl
    peace.

  • Someone

    just switch to frostwire or any other program exactly the same as limewire just with a different name and icons.

  • Jon

    gtk-gnutella is a much better client btw. Gnutella aint that bad, it’s good for some rare files.

  • anon

    It’s become to polluted with ads and virii so that its not worth using anyways. although giving them retards a win could make things worse for the rest of us as they change their focus.

  • mister_playboy

    LimeWire has already been forked > FrostWire.

    GPL software cannot be killed. :)

  • aManWhoKnows

    Guys , Limewire wont die and if it does well then just do what i do , Download some clip extractor , concert it to any file mp3 , wav, u can extract any clip forum youtube … Goodluck

  • Anonymous

    Fuck the music industry. They deserve to die! Music is art, not a god damn INDUSTRY.

    What the hell is this “harm that money damages cannot compensate” supposed to be? Fuck you, assholes!

    Stop ripping off the artists, greedy scum record labels. You are filth. Die!

  • devl547

    I have a suggestion for them.
    Try to shut down eDonkey XD

  • DanielRemains

    Taken from the PDF:

    ” While downloads occur on a vast scale, most users are likely individuals who in the absence of file sharing would not have bought the music they downloaded.

    See, no loss there.

  • anonymous

    when are all internet sites, whether file sharing or not, ISPs or in fact, anything internet related in any way, going to come to realise that there is going to be no let-up by the entertainment industries until they control everything on the internet, but are not responsible for the costs of that control. every site is going to have to pay to police what the industries say, in the way they say, eating into their profits, causing possible business shut-downs without affecting any money the industries get. ie, i want this, but YOU are going to pay to make it happen, NOT ME!! unless you people start to put up a united opposition, YOU are going to fail, not the entertainment industries! they wont be the ones with no business any more! they wont be the ones that can’t keep going because the costs outweigh the profit! mark my words. it is not far off now. every site is being targeted individually. i said this would happen and i am right up til now. each separate win they have, instigates the next round in court. they are building up an impressive list of victories so that each court case is easier to win than the last, the judge referencing those previous cases with thoughts that ‘they won on this point before, it must apply now’. anyone that thinks that there are 1000s of sites and that new ones will just open when old ones are shut is in for a BIG shock and surprise! see in 1 month or 3 months if i am right again and how many more sites have gone and how many more wins the industries have had! this fight is being lost by all except the entertainment industries! why? because they have determination, money, tenacity and, most importantly, A PLAN which they are sticking to. everything and everyone else is just a disorganised rabble, doomed to failure. i am waiting for the endless moaning that will come when the war is lost and it is much too late. cries of ‘why wasn’t this done, why wasn’t that said? ‘we should all buy second hand, not new! hit them in the pocket!’ how stupid are you people? someone has to buy new, before you can buy second hand, or is that too hard to comprehend!? once the internet is lost, it wont come back, certainly not how we know it atm and it will be our fault for being so complacent!

  • Brandon

    Ok Mr. Anonymous troller, Do they pay you by the word now? This has been going on for several hundred years now. Do you just think its gonna end in a couple of months? I think not. By the way there is no trolling on this website read the rules bitch…

  • AnarchyNow

    The MAFIAA is crazy, billions??? where did they see that we owe them anything at all ???
    Let them die like the worse than nazi dinosaurs they are!

  • lmfao

    I Want Court To Shut Down RIAA

  • Daniel

    Good, I’m all for Bit Torrent, but I’m ready for Limewire to die. Every time I get asked “hey can you check my computer, I think I have a virus” its because they where morons and managed to download one from Limewire. Would bittorrent be any better? Probably not, but it’s slightly harder to use… so hopefully the dumb ones would just give up.

  • Daniel

    @74 I’ve been using the same sites for at least 2 years, some longer, and most of them haven’t been touched by the entertainment industry. The ones that have, like tpb, you guys just can’t seem to stop.

    “every site is going to have to pay to police what the industries say”

    Good luck with this, shutting sites down that have pirated material is one thing, and some will say it’s bad… but trying to make everyone pay to police their content? I’d love to see how that goes over with the public. I actually wish this quote was from one of their lawyers and not some scum trying to pretend to be.

  • Rivon

    I don’t understand you people saying LimeWire is dead and whatnot. It isn’t. Firstly it’s not really made for sharing apps and games and things like that. It’s better for downloading small files like music and at that, it excels. If you can’t distinguish the four or five fake/spam files at the bottom, then you’re really dumb and should stick to your dumb torrents.

  • Torin050

    @15 They… Already have… Bloody ages ago… You obliviously DON’T read TorrentFreak or Freakbits, or even Digg… O.o

  • anonymous

    to #79
    firstly i am not a lawyer nor am i pretending to be. 2ndly, i am not scum, resent being called that and have not suggested that anyone else here is. 3rdly, the thoughts are my own and so far what i have said would happen, has happened. 4thly, there is no reason to think that what i reckon will happen, wont happen. why? because we are just the public and no one gives a shit about the views of the public, their wants or needs and definitely dont give a shit or greater about us or anything to do with us. all we are good for is to continuously pay money to whomever tells us they want some, we owe some or wants to take it. in contrast the ‘industries’ are much more important because they already have money and want to keep it, it can then be turned into persuasive power! we are too layed back to worry about anything, whether we want it to happen or not, until it has happened, we have then seen the effect it has on us and is too late to do anything to prevent it from happening or reversing the effect. i hope that whenever a site is closed, another will open doing the same thing and am greatful to sites like TPB for what they have done, are doing and want them to continue to do. it will, however, not continue, nor will similar sites! look at what has happened to date. are you blind? more pressure on and from governments, let alone the ‘industries’. compromise is the only answer, but no way will the ‘industries’ do that, leaving what option, do you think?

  • Torin050

    @74 This is the biggest bag of fail I have ever seen. 1. This won’t end in months, this ‘battle for the internet’ you speak of has gone on for over 10 years, the copyright one for even longer, and now it will suddenly end ’cause you have your head up your ass? I think not my good man. You preach to the rest of us like you are some kind of prophet, more like a moron. The number of losses have majorly out weighted their wins, not only that, but a court order was issued for Newzbin to shut down, and I don’t see it going anywhere ^_^. Not only are you A FUCKING IDIOT BABBLING ON ABOUT APOCALYPTIC BULLSHIT, but it’s not the point to STOP buying new, the point for all of this is for the music/movie, all of the entertainment industry, to change their ways. If you like a bands music, donate/buy a CD/see a concert, that’s how it should be. You are clearly stating that you want it all free (that don’t buy new comment), and that sir makes you nothing but a bloody bottom feeder. :) Once the internet is gone? It’s not fucking going ANYWHERE… And of course as ’75′ said.

  • me

    #84 Daniel: “Good, I’m all for Bit Torrent, but I’m ready for Limewire to die.”

    Please don’t blame the file sharing application for the stupidity of its users. If they get infected by viruses, that’s because they’re so stupid as to use Windows instead of better OSes, like e.g. Linux.

    The file sharing app transfers files, and Frostwire/Limewire are doing a great job here. It doesn’t care what’s in those files.

  • mick

    RIGayGay “wants”
    Is there any shit they do not “want”?

  • Drak

    I have been downloading stuff Music, Films appz warez for the last 12 years there is nothing they can do to stop it we will move to some other app or network there is always a way to transfer files as long as two computers are connected

  • anonymous

    so Newzbin shut down. it reopened. now the ‘industries’ are after it again. they have spent a fortune on this. do you really think this chase is going to end? i dont. i wish it would, i wish it had never started. once it did, it should have been nipped in the bud, not allowed to go on-and-on as it still is now. continuously running and hiding will end up getting sites nowhere. sooner or later they will get caught.
    to #89 i am certainly no prophet but i can read. if the ‘industries’ had lost more than they have won, they wouldn’t keep on suing, regardless of the financial and ego losses and there would be more reports on sites like this. as for being a babbling idiot, maybe i am but at least i can see what is probably going to happen, not got my head stuck up my arse, like you, stopping me from seeing that what i want to happen, that the internet will always be available for me probably wont happen for much longer. free downloads? would be great! a lot have got used to it.
    you state that ‘You are clearly stating that you want it all free and that sir makes you nothing but a bloody bottom feeder’.
    i state to you that you are must be a member of the music type industry and know little other than your own idiotic ideas. like most people, i am perfectly willing to pay for downloads, as long as they are sensibly priced, drm free and quickly available. i will not pay the same price for a download that i am expected to pay for buying a physical disk! nor would anyone else with sense, unless, of course, you are one of those that would benefit from the inflated cost!
    the ‘dont buy new’ comment, if you read it and try to understand it means that, regardless of whether a person thinks it is good to buy 2nd hand rather than new, someone bought the item new to begin with. it didn’t fall out of someones arse just because you wanted it. you, sir, are much more of a moron than i could ever be! if you weren’t, you would see that i am in favour of ‘net neutrality’, against the continuous persecution of web sites, file sharing ones in particular, but am sensible enough to realise what is going to happen, whether i or you want it to or not, because there is no consolidated opposition to what the ‘industries’ are doing!!!

  • the united hackers association

    OH viruswire is gonna get shutdown the principal attack engine and lawsuit driver early on for the riaa as no one uses it and those left doing so are considered the leeches of p2p ?

    HRM well i for one could care less what happens to lime wire

  • Doink

    Limewire!

    RALMAO

  • Anonymous

    @13 “The only people who use Limewire are 12 year old script kiddies posting “hacking” videos on Youtube with CMD”

    And I suppose only the “leet haxorz” like you know how to use bittorrent? LOL

  • Old Timer…

    The need the billions to pay off the Canadian Artists that are owed more then 6 billion dollars for unpaid royalties…

    Seems the RIAA has been selling CD’s without the copyrighted owners permission for years…isn’t that a felony (Burning CD’s or copyrighted material and selling it)? Isnt’ the RIAA/US going after China for that same thing….hmmm…Pot…Kettle, Black.

    They should just abolish Copyright.

  • The Terminator

    This whole article & comments are full of so many LOLs

    I used Limewire last thursday :P

  • ha

    “RIAA Wants Court To Shut Down INTERNET”
    This is the proper title for the article.

  • All of you are idiots

    All of you morons posting about how LimeWire should be shut down need to be shot.

    You know damn good and well that everybody that has posted a reply to this thread has, and will in the near future, pirate some sort of material.

    All of you are idiots, I swear. Please grow a brain.

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  • Pfarthing6

    This is great!

    The court wants to effectively say that the producers of a product are responsible for what their customers do with it!

    Imagine the impact of that?

    All gun makers will be responsible for the conduct of the gun ownwers!

    All WMD makers that export their arms to other countries will be responsible for what the other countries do with them!

    All manufacturers that produce non-biodegradable packaging that finds it’s way into landfills, the road side, land fills, and produces toxic crap as it breaks down will be responsible for that.

    Every music vendor/distributor will be responsible for every kid that plays Zepp backwards and offs himself!

    No, this is great. It will set a president never before heard of ans quite possible be the shot that causes a freaking avalanche of law suits against companies that externalize their real costs.

    All I can say is, “Yeah baby, lets get this WAR going on!”

  • Anonymous

    Electricity must be banned, it assists copyright infringement by powering all those circumventing devices.

    Seriously industry, be gone.

  • WSI

    Sure it’s already been said (don’t have time to read all the comments), but limewire is a POS imo. Gnutella 1 is full of viruses and fake files. If one doesn’t want to use BT, at least use Shareaza and Gnutella 2.

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  • Anonymous

    @100

    limewire sucks end of story. where are your brains, in your ass?

  • Ninja

    LimeWire may not be the best p2p program out there and even if MAFIAA does manage to shut the company down and prevent ppl from downloading the program p2p will keep on moving and the gnutella network will still exist. However it will set a precedent that will allow idiocies like the FTD/newzbin one.

    MAFIAA already lost the war against file sharing and it’ll be shooting everywhere out of desperation now. This will not stop file sharing but will make ordinary ppl/sharers lives harder.

    I thought judges were smart people that needed to overcome difficult obstacles to reach their position and it amazes me that NO judge questioned MAFIAA’s claims and figures. You don’t need to be a genius to see that they are adopting premises that favor their pockets – one would have to be too stupid to really believe that all downloads are lost sales… If anything, ppl will at least buy the stuff from their favorite artists just to have the official stuff…

  • WSI

    106 “…If anything, ppl will at least buy the stuff from their favorite artists…”

    You mean from their favorite artist’s record companies, who in return screw the artists and consumers?

  • Anonymous

    if MAFIAA does manage to shut the company down and prevent ppl from downloading the program

    Shutting down the company will not prevent people from downloading the program.

    There is no way to prevent people from downloading the program and since it is open source there is no way to stop it’s development.

  • Anonymous

    “RIGayGay “wants”
    Is there any shit they do not “want”?”

    Yea, and we are going to give it to them anyway soon.

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  • Anonymous

    “If the RIAA score a victory in court against Limewire, hundreds or millions of people will have to seek an alternative download client”

    Frostwire? :P

  • Anonymous

    “If the RIAA score a victory in court against Limewire, hundreds or millions of people will have to seek an alternative download client”

    Frostwire? :P

  • stayingtrue

    @ post #7….Funny as all he**…LMAO

  • anon

    RIP E-donkey… oh sorry, I mean Limewire.

  • Me

    Limewire is crap, Frostwire is better, GTK-Gnutella is okay, but Gnutella ins’t as good as it was before, too much fake-files!

    Anyone using StealthNet? http://www.stealthnet.de/en_index.php

    Worth to try… bye bye Limewire…

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  • Anonymouses

    @#4, I would really like to see the movie companies go after Microsoft it would be a interesting case. As everybody knows Bill Gates has 42 billion dollars sitting in his bank account. But a attack on p2p, or any client that allows is free sharing of information. Is stupid as it’s how the users uses it. Like let say somebody buys a movie from walmart such as saw 6 for example, then rips it and puts on a torrent site. Is the walmart, or the movie company liable for what the user did with said movie? I think not same with limewire, they even protest against such stuff.

  • Abbernomad

    Computers do 3 things. Only three things.

    1. Store Data
    2. Manipulate Data
    3. Move Data

    You cannot eliminate any of these three things. That said, Computers will always move data. It’s your choice how. The RIAA obviously does not understand this concept.
    I chose bitTorrent over Limewire because it’s more robust and the source downloads are more reliable.

  • Xz

    naaahw :o

    Thats where i get my music and illegal porn

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  • BinaryNewsHowTo

    Limewire? P2P is dead, move to usenet. Learn how to download from binary newsgroups at http://binarynewshowto.com and never use p2p again.

  • theDog

    Let me explain the future to you. It’s called the Cloud. You will not have a hard drive on your computer, you will not have a floppy drive, a cd drive or any other way to save files on your computer. It will all be in the Cloud. Blank CD’s will be banned along with all other media to copy files. All your files will be in the Cloud and PAYED for. They will have access to your Cloud and check to make sure you payed for those files, if not, they take them away from your Cloud. They will tell you this is Good cause it prevents piracy and keeps prices low and you can access it from anywhere you are, oh joy. So you will have the benefits and they will have the control. You don’t want control, you could get viruses, you just want the benefits, oh bliss. Then you can go about your life knowing you are an asset to society living in a Cloud, oh heaven. See you in the future ;)

  • Bob

    People still use Limewire? I thought everyone finally moved over to BT or at least something more secure.

  • Kaptain Krunch

    Proxy service companies should be sued for every penny the have for profiting from the super mega p2p entertainment industry.

  • Adam of Movia Desert

    How exactly would that affect anything? Likely wouldn’t…..sure, they can shut down “Limewire” – but there is still FrostWire, and every other “Gnutella capable” app out there to get onto the network…..

    Unless they are getting the “app” confused with the “network”….

    Gnutella is for the most part decentarlized…..though YES, if they were to take down the immediate “router” or hub that connects each peer with a corresponding “leaf” or Super Node, then yes, that would cause the end of Gnutella….BUT, this article only talks of taking down Limewire.

    To that, I say, Go ahead…..Limewire is shite. Frostwire is alright though…..

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  • BioC*ock

    lol…

    who the f*uck still uses LimeWire anyways ?

    and if LimeWire is still their primary source for stuff….wonder what they’ll do after it goes away…lol…lame losers….

    especially lame are ppl who actually paid for Lime’s PRO version…wtf were they expecting out of it ?

  • Limewire is dead anyway

    Dear Everyone.

    I hate that thing you like, and you’re stupid because you like it. As evidence, I present the fact that only stupid people like the things you like. The things I like are much better, by virtue of the fact that I’m not stupid. As proof I present the fact that I don’t like the thing you like, which stupid people do like.

  • Anonymous

    this is a dying industries battle to stay alive. we dont need it anymore. shoop shoop.

  • Geoff

    Perhaps we should just all get used to using Gopher again…

  • Anonymous

    This is all really just a waiting game, all of us pretty much agree. Once we’re up there to be in office, we’ll make things right. Just gotta wait for the opening.

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