“Six Strikes” Anti-Piracy Scheme Starts, With Mystery Punishments

Ernesto
February 25, 2013
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After a long wait, the controversial “six-strikes” anti-piracy system kicks off in the United States. Soon the first BitTorrent users will receive so-called copyright alerts from their Internet provider and after multiple warnings subscribers will be punished. But, what these punishments entail remains a bit of a mystery. None of the participating ISPs have officially announced how they will treat repeat infringers and the CCI doesn’t have this information either.

copyright alerts The MPAA and RIAA, helped by five major Internet providers in the United States, will start to warn BitTorrent pirates this week.

The parties launched the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) and agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are warned that their behavior is unacceptable. After five or six warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures.

The scheme was initially announced during the summer of 2011 and after a series of delays it goes live today.

“Over the course of the next several days our participating ISPs will begin rolling out the system,” CCI Executive Director Jill Lesser just announced.

“Practically speaking, this means our content partners will begin sending notices of alleged P2P copyright infringement to ISPs, and the ISPs will begin forwarding those notices in the form of Copyright Alerts to consumers,” she adds.

Strangely enough, none of the Internet providers has officially announced what mitigation measures they will take to punish repeated infringers. TorrentFreak asked CCI to fill us in, but the organization doesn’t have this information either.

“Unfortunately the ISPs have not yet provided us with the exact mitigation measures,” a CCI spokesperson told us.

From leaked information we previously learned that AT&T will block users’ access to some of the most frequently visited websites on the Internet, until they complete a copyright course. Verizon will slow down the connection speeds of repeated pirates, and Time Warner Cable will temporarily interrupt people’s ability to browse the Internet.

The two remaining providers, Cablevison and Comcast, are expected to take similar measures. None of the ISPs will permanently disconnect repeat infringers as part of the plan.

Some skeptics have pointed out that the copyright alert system wont have much effect since there are many ways to beat the system. BitTorrent users, for example, can protect their privacy and prevent monitoring by using a VPN, proxy or seedbox.

Alternatively, some determined pirates may switch to other platforms that are not monitored, including Usenet, cyberlockers, streaming sites or offline swapping. Those who use private BitTorrent trackers may be safe for now, but monitoring company MarkMonitor was advised to start eyeing these sites as well.

For CCI and their partners these workarounds are not a major problem. They have said from the start that the program aims to educate the public, in particular more casual file-sharers.

While the copyright alert system is much more reasonable than the equivalents in France and New Zealand, there is the worrying possibility that it will be used to gather evidence to start legal action against individuals.

As we reported previously, Internet providers will have to inform copyright holders about which IP-addresses are repeatedly flagged. The MPAA and RIAA can then use this information to ask the court for a subpoena, so they can obtain the personal details of the account holder.

This possibility was also confirmed by leaked documents from AT&T.

“After the fifth alert, the content owner may pursue legal action against the customer, and may seek a court order requiring AT&T to turn over personal information to assist the litigation,” AT&T explained.

There’s no concrete indication that repeated infringers will be taken to court, and if this happens it’s not part of the copyright alert system.

More on this, and the other missing details on the “six strikes” system, will become clear during the coming months.

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In other news, VPN sales skyrocket in the US.
- Yellow
  
  Already been done. Repeated comments are not funny
- AFriendlyDude
  
  In different news “The use of VPN providers is now punishable up to 20 years in prison in the US”
  - Guest
    
    And you are living a fantasy lol
    - Ralph Brubaker
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxVlN-LzIks
  - Guest
    
    Yeah, because only filthy pirates use VPNs. Definitely not reporters in places like Iran or China!
    
    Also, nice upvoting your own comments.
    - AFriendlyDude
      
      Now that’s a special and unthinkable case. It’s technically not possible to block that VPN traffic and simultaneously leave those reporters in Iran or China and their VPN accounts alone.
    - JerkfaceMcGee
      
      It is if you’re using a computer you do not have administrative rights on (PPTP/L2TP dialers built-in to Windows), or OpenVPN which requires a driver (again, administrator required by default). But in most cases your’e correct, I just wonder what would happen if they “caught” you
    - iggdawg
      
      You’ll never see VPNs in general get blocked. IPSec VPNs are part of infrastructure critical to enterprises. And you can’t block SSL VPN without also blocking things like HTTPS website access and and many types of VOIP traffic.
    - AFriendlyDude
      
      Then, instead of establishing the great firewall of MAFIAAstan for home users, they will simply make VPNs an enterprise only thing and also just allow strictly controlled national VPN providers.
    - markh
      
      why national is usa in your eyes the only country in the world retard
    - AFriendlyDude
      
      It would be a pretty stupid idea to allow the usage of VPN providers from countries you don’t have jurisdiction over.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      China did try.
      
      Didn’t stop dissidents from accessing VPN’s, but it did shut down Apple’s app store.
    - MadAsASnake
      
      The Internet tends to ignore political borders – because it was built that way.
    - Ijustdon’teven
      
      Well, there was questionable US jurisdiction with all the Megaupload stuff, and they got away with that! Stupid? Yes. But they still did it!
    - iggdawg
      
      that won’t ever happen. I promise.
    - Glib
      
      @AFriendlyDude (re: VPN controlling): This is exactly what will happen; you’ll have to license VPN connections, and they will be blocked to connections outside the US otherwise.
      
      Good opportunity to build a new protocol and make it the only encryption that can get past the soon-to-come firewall.
    - Ray186
      
      You know I heard this quote a long time ago when encryption was in it’s infancy. “The Pentagon just found out that It’s really hard to ban math”. 2048 bit Security for less than $4.00 a month = Priceless
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Ah, just like China and Iran…oh wait.
      
      They could try making that legislation, but in real effect, that is impossible to implement.
      
      Even in China.
      
      So…back to the drawing board you go to learn why outlawing encryption and VPN on personal level is flat-out impossible.
    - Anonymous
      
      If it isn’t people like him upvoting his own comments, it’s him getting his mates to help him, or maybe even bot his likes up high.
      
      Disqus should REQUIRE signed in to vote up AND down.
      
      Oh and remove the ability to upvote your own posts obviously.
    - http://twitter.com/Paco420_Pt Paco420
      
      requires you to be signed in to vote someone down… but not vote up… amusing stuff.
    - AFriendlyDude
      
      Yes of course. I’m a retard and I love it to upvote my own comments and I also encourage my buddys to upvote them, so I can feel like a king. It gives me great feelings, 1,000,000 internez, King Kong’s karma, and a boner every time I do it… get a life.
    - Ray186
      
      Dude , on a torrenting news site you expect us to believe that my down vote was the first one? Yes I do think that you are so delude to believe that I you encourage your buddys to upvote you, so that you can feel like a king.
      It probably gives you great feelings, 1,000,000 internez, King Kong’s karma, and a
      boner every time you do it.
    - Guest
      
      Sounds like someone forgot what sarcasm was about.
    - Ijustdon’teven
      
      Why would the fact that we’re on a torrenting news site make a claim that your down vote was the first one any more or less believable?
    - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
      
      I will up vote anyone that will send me cash via paypal. I will make you feel real good when I up vote you. Once I up vote you, you will not want any other up vote to up vote you again. Except for my up vote.
      
      But first you must make paypal payment. Then you get my up vote..
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Well, it’s either that, you got your upvotes from people thinking you were being sarcastic, or there’s a frightening amount of clueless sheep who read your post and all went “Oh NOES we is doomed!!”.
    - Ijustdon’teven
      
      Why would people have upvoted the comment if they thought it was serious, though? I’m imagining a whole lot of people thinking “Oh NOES we is doomed! … yay!” :P
    - Tristinhg
      
      In other news, US citizens are lazy enough,
      they’re not going to change anything,
      they prefer to hide behind VPNs,
      but, that’s not news at all.
      
      Now another TV series
      which will be cancelled soon,
      it won’t get a conclusion and ending,
      anyway, you love this format.
    - Guest
      
      I agree with the last sentence.
      (yeah I just voted my own comment :)
    - DoobyDoo
      
      What he said is true though (about the reporters)
      
      Unless you can provide evidence to the contary
    - Whatever
      
      Well, you’ve got to admit that those reporters are considered criminals in those countries.
      
      Pirates don’t wash ?
      
      (i’ll make some more useful comment next time)
    - WStone77
      
      Are we generalizing folks now? come on
    - MyPrecious
      
      Noooo, not my precious upvotes! Noooo…
    - Ralph Brubaker
      
      MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
      When will the tally of notifications be made public?
    - ghamarkhanum
      
      I think it’s much better if you worry about yourself rather than reporters in Iran or China, this article is about what is happening in the US and since reporters in the US do not use VPNs due to fear of the government, your point is invalid. On the other hand, since the majority of people using VPNs in the US do it for being anonymous on the internet since they have business there their government might not approve of, AFriendlyDude’s point (joke) is completely relevant.
  - Who
    
    in more news. “more stupid people, that think they know everything just keep dinging them selves a deeper hole”
    - Ijustdon’teven
      
      Such as?
  - Guest
    
    No, VPNs will just end up being required to keep logs on your wrongdoings much like your ISP currently does.
    
    Offshore VPNs will have their respective governments forced to implement the same policies when they bring it up at the G20 meetings.
    
    VPNs to non cooperative countries will be blocked chinese firewall style!
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation
      
      ROTFL. yeah, try making Ipredator keep logs
    - Guest
      
      read the last sentence.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      …and what you wrote is still nonsense.
      
      Pro tip: The chinese firewall doesn’t even work, so…
    - Guest
      
      Read the last two sentences.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation
      
      lol
    - Glib
      
      Solution: easily installable locally hosted VPN servers. Making an internal-to-the-country whitelist is impossible, and no logs on your own server. An argument could be made you had a hacker connect to your VPN.
      
      However, last sentence does seem possible … but no reason those provided logs had to be correct. Make your logging completely random; there’s no reasonable way they can prove you’re lying, you could even “accidentally” break your logger.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Oh, I do so love it when someone comes around telling us all the nations will begin cooperating at a level they never have before.
      
      A little hint here – any cooperation like the one you envision would have collectively voted ACTA, SOPA and PIPA through on a global scale already.
      
      As it turned out, however, the only reason ACTA had to go fail in the EU was because it had already failed miserably in every other international trade congregation.
      
      So…not likely at all.
    - Guest
      
      You are too naive to think they won’t give up, and guess what? they have the money to make it happen. Good luck fighting when in about 10 years from now, we will have a super DMCA go figure.
    - Ijustdon’teven
      
      There is a big difference between trying to persuade other governments to adopt a law you haven’t adopted yourself (ACTA, SOPA, PIPA) and trying to pressure them to make similar laws to your own.
      
      If America DID require VPNs to operate the way described in the above comments, they possibly WOULD try to persuade other governments to do the same, as they already do with many, many other laws.
      
      So… still not likely, but much more likely than you’re making it seem.
    - Anonymous
      
      Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      So…not likely at all.
      
      I wouldn’t be so sure, in time and after enough money has changed hands, we probably WILL see a global ACTA. Don’t be so sure it won’t happen, you cannot realise what we are up against here.
    - Guest
      
      Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      You haven’t replied yet, I said that
      
      A little hint here – any cooperation like the one you envision would have collectively voted ACTA, SOPA and PIPA through on a global scale already.
      
      They are trying this already, Just because they failed thus far, won’t stop them from trying until they succeed
      
      As it turned out, however, the only reason ACTA had to go fail in the EU was because it had already failed miserably in every other international trade congregation.
      
      Good observation, but the new TPP act will have yet another go, and they will drop whatever is unpopular sand the piracy ammendments.
      
      So…not likely at all
      
      Way too early to say anything like that and also too much wishful thinking in that very post of yours
  - Whatever
    
    Also already been done (yes, i known, the already been done has also been done).
    
    Already done in Germany: not allowed to be part of a darknet.
    
    Yes, it is a bit different but i would consider it actually a step further.
    - Guest
      
      Already done in Germany: not allowed to be part of a darknet.
      
      So that outlaws all the spam botnets? cool!
      
      Shame this law will come unto nothing.
    - Anyone
      
      that was in austria
      and the court case is still going on
  - wargamer1969
    
    Haters going to hate. Love my VPN.
- BuddhaFacePalmed
  
  In other news, horse meat was found in beef products throughout Europe.
  - Anonymous
    
    Soon donkey meat will be discovered, you heard it here first!
    - Liam JH
      
      I like the variety I have been getting lately just waiting for the zebra and camel to be discovered in me next burger.
    - RIXT
      
      These fat humans
      who love to eat any meat,
      someday those will become cannibals.
    - Liam JH
      
      nom nom
- One-Eyed Willie
  
  In other news, Willie has a mystery item he is gonna shove up all their collective asses! Guess anyone?
  - The Guy
    
    A cactus?
  - Boring Phil
    
    A platinum disc?
  - UraPhake
    
    A chimpanzee?
  - http://www.facebook.com/rsinman Richard SirRoyal Inman
    
    A ninja Gerbil?
    - One-Eyed Willie
      
      That is it! Gratz man! Ninja Gerbil but he has knives duck taped to his arms and legs. Did I mention he was also a suicide bomber? lol
    - Boring Phil
      
      I hope the poor critter has a lil’ oxygen tank. He may be up there some time…
  - Ralph Brubaker
    
    3.14159265359?
  - Liam JH
    
    Fist!
- Nasty
  
  I am not going to use a VPN because of that. If I receive any of their fucking “alert” I will retaliate.
  - Ijustdon’teven
    
    Retaliate how?
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MuhhPhukka

Looks like its time to get my movies from the barbershop again.
Anonymous

in other news, usage of file lockers has skyrocketed in the US
I buy stuff

If i was in the USA i would torrent everything I have legally (and the i have receipts for) then sue the ISP for loss of shit (unable to communicate with clients. Git push. Fix my dedicated etc.) if they blocked my Internet which.
- AFriendlyDude
  
  Aren’t you the one that violated their TOS first?
  - Who
    
    have you even read there TOS? LOL
- Ardvaark
  
  “unable to communicate with clients. Git push. Fix my dedicated etc.”
  
  I laughed at that for longer than I should.
  Suing someone for that would be hilarious from a developer’s perspective :)
- I don’t buy stuff
  
  The problem is, you’re also uploading the files, whether you legally possess said files or not. I wouldn’t give a damn if you did, but they do. They’ll argue that you shared the file with those that do not legally possess the file (even if neither of you can prove either extreme).
  - Who
    
    no the problem is they don’t think that intellectual property rights apply to there works for you. they claim that when you buy one of there works that you are ONLY paying for a USE right. BTW that’s NOT what the LAW says.
    
    and Y the FUCK would you download something you already have a retail copy of? its wasting bandwidth and most users have caps. if you wanted a back up then do it your self.
  - joexxx
    
    They can’t. Whether something is legal or illegal can only be decided by a court of law. ISP is not a court of law.
malarkey101

Does Torrentfreak have a copy of the copyright course what does it entail
ralph

Petty thieves in London used to have their heads lopped off and hung on London Bridge.

This sounds like a good punishment for clueless people.

You know, Bittorrent will work even without port forwarding at a residential router(slowly, but it will work). So, it is not hard to imagine people who haven’t the slightest idea what is going on getting caught by the Copyright Alert System. They might not even know how to stop the problem short of turning off their modem.

So, who is going to get punished? Not anyone that will have an impact on “piracy”
- Asashii
  
  exactly, it will just be less mainstream and that will be a good thing, not every idiot file sharing and causing problems for the rest of us!
dafttoll

Wow torrents were viable for a lot longer than I had ever predicted, but back to the shadows for those who know.. and if you get picked off? Sad story, but laws are laws if you agree with them or not. What I find interesting is this whole scheme is a setup for a chain of evidence to prove willful violations in court when the copyright holders sue you, much easier to convince a judge.
- Who
  
  “but laws are laws” have you actually read the US copyright laws?
  or any other US law for that matter?
  - Who
    
    to the “uneducated fool” that thumbed down my comment its obvious that you never have. LOL
- MadAsASnake
  
  Laws are laws and six strikes is not law, nor will it provide a chain of evidence (note that in no known case have the IP trolling technologies been provided to a court, nor will they), so all they have is 6 totally unsupported accusations. = nothing. nada. no use in court.
  - Asashii
    
    no internet for you, hows that for a effect, you can only burn so many bridges!
    - MadAsASnake
      
      Arbitrary removal of services founded on baseless and unproveable accusations? Seems someone is burning my bridges for me…
- Guest
  
  There is no justice in unjust laws.
  
  Akin, there is no justice in supporting a system which is detrimental to both the consumer (as proven today) and the artist (as proven with how much an artist actually makes compared to the copyright industry).
  
  Piracy is – quite unexpected – better for the artist.
- http://news.mensactivism.org/ Jhon Deo
  
  You’re right about it being a setup to make it easier for companies to sue you.
- Guest
  
  “laws are laws if you agree with them or not”
  
  A law is only a law if you obey it, son.
  - Your pop
    
    You’re wrong, son. If you break the law (by not obeying it) it’s still a law.
    - Laws are meant to be broken
      
      So if I made a law that says you have to kiss my ring would you do it? I very much doubt it.
    - Asashii
      
      yes mister make up land is talking hypothetically now, i dont live in la la land i live in the real world!
    - Ray186
      
      Substitute ring for Arsehole.
    - MrNobody200
      
      substitute arsehole for hairy arsehole lol!
  - Asashii
    
    a law is a law wether you obey it OR NOT ,son. thats why its called breaking!
    - MadAsASnake
      
      6 strikes is not law.
  - ScrewEwe2
    
    And rules and laws are meant to be broken.
Hqck

LOL USA OMFG THIS BULSHIIIIIT :’)
AFriendlyDude

You asked for it and you finally got it.

It was just plain stupid start a fight with such a mighty enemy – in other words – to download digital content you are considering to be crap and you don’t want to pay for illegaly. I hope you are able to enjoy the fruits of your hard work now.

And once again. Thank you for destroying our free internet. I hope you are happy now. You are the reason for all the stupid MAFIAA lobbying and you are therefore the reason for all the freedom threatening laws and agreements
- Guest
  
  More and more Judges in the US are ruling that an IP address does not prove who the infringer is. So what is the point of sending notices to the holder of IP addresses when there is no prove of who the infringer is.
  
  The only way to stop piracy is to shut down the whole internet and as for a free internet it is not free when you pay for an ISP to provide the connection.
  - AFriendlyDude
    
    So what? A new law could make the owner of the account responsible, regardless of who in the family actually did it. It’s how Germany handles it currently.
    - MadAsASnake
      
      In Germany, they also have reversed burden of proof – so in Germany a single totally baseless accusation wins. Get rid of that reversal and the lack of evidence dooms IP evidence. Totally.
    - Anyone
      
      it’s completely broken in germany, yes
      
      but slowly higher courts bring back some sanity
    - Flix
      
      “Thank you for destroying our free internet”.
      
      You’re so naive, governments as this one, have the complete intention to do these things anyway.
      They’re going to use any excuse to control and regulate the internet, pornography, terrorism and now copyright, even if they have no clue how those things works, they simply want to create filters.
      
      Governments are obsessed with getting complete control over their citizens and just add that, to the fact that US govt. loves to protect its corporations.
      
      BTW, why the hell would you want to have a connection of 1Gbps, if you can’t download anything? Let’s go back to dial-up and 56kbps times then.
    - Ardvaark
      
      “Thank you for destroying our free internet”.
      
      Instead of sitting and screaming doomsday messages, what have you done to prevent the destruction of free internet?
    - Who
      
      if the laws were changed so that the account holder would be responsible, then just like when AT&T introduced the data cap and lost a load of subscribers, so it would happen again AND I bet the ISP’s would defiantly go under after that.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “A new law could make the owner of the account responsible, regardless of who in the family actually did it.”
      
      For a response to that, see the 4th amendment.
      
      Assuming the legislative corruption runs all the way to SCOTUS, see MLK’s advice on unjust laws.
      
      Failing that, read up on the four boxes upholding democracy.
- Anyone
  
  that the MAFIAA couldn’t get this scheme through legal channel actually shows that they are losing the fight
  
  sure, they got an agreement with the ISP cartel, some of them also part of the MAFIAA, but they couldn’t get it through bought laws (SOPA/PIPA) or through courts
  
  it’s only a matter of time until this extortion scheme is overturned or the participating ISP overtaken by the competition
- Guest
  
  I’ve been trading hard disk drives with my mates for years.
  
  Internet’s got nothing to do with it, but have fun ranting about that. Are you going to turn in your parents for trading mixtapes? Are you going to surrender your family for using VCRs?
  - Who
    
    ive still got one of those. I also got a dvd recorder.
- Liam JH
  
  Finally – I get the sarcasm
  XD
- MadAsASnake
  
  The MAFIAA are responsible fot the corruption, lobbying and bribery of the MAFIAA, no-one makes them do it – don’t try to blame the victims.
- Typhoid Mary
  
  Bobmails brother.
- http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle
  
  the recording and film industry have been milking us for years, re selling old material again and again, at full price. well, that model is fucked and no strike system is going to put a stop to it so stick that up your arse,
- NotThatFriendlyAreYou
  
  Oh right, whatever you do, don’t fight for your own rights, thats so wrong thing to do…
  - AFriendlyDude
    
    What kind of fight is that? What kind of weapons do you have? A bunch of /b/tards from 4chan that think they’re the leaders of da internet, because they can hide their arses behind level C proxies and ddos da shit out of the government and MAFIAA – lol ?
    
    Where is your lobbying group? It looks like the only weapon you have, is to continue that illegal downloading and the resulting provocation of stricter laws. That’s a great fight. A fight you will lose.
    
    And what is the next step? A temporary hiding behind VPNs? I applaud you.
    
    It looks like the reality looks as follows:
    
    Government/MAFIAA vs. citizen
    ${YOUR_FAVORITE_NATURAL_NUMBER} vs. 0
    - Guest
      
      What I find disturbing is that you’d rather blame the general populace than the RIAA, who’s made it clear that they don’t care about their stunning lack of accuracy and high rates of collateral damage.
      
      You don’t think that a large majority of the RIAA’s targets being children, grandmothers, homeless people, computerless people, dead people – i.e. the wrong people – sends up a huge warning sign?
      
      If tomorrow, a known felon escaped into your town, would you agree to a police search that involved pumping bullets into everyone they met?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      SOPA and PIPA died. No lobbying group, you say?
      
      I think we have plenty.
      
      ACTA died as well. No lobbying group?
      
      I don’t know what reality you are watching, but it appears to be next door to Anon’s la-la land.
- joexxx
  
  Mighty enemy?? Ahahahaha.
  Considering that there are 4 billion p2p music downloads per DAY, MAFIAA is not an enemy… they’re nothing.
- http://www.facebook.com/ampage.grietu Ampage Grietu
  
  Apparently you don’t understand what Internet “Pirates” actually stand for. We, as a group, don’t agree with the currently overwhelming copyright law. Pirates stand for a more open internet. That’s all we ask for. The big companies with financial power want to use their power to restrict the internet. It’s that simple. I could go on for days about this stance, but you simply aren’t worth my time.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  Oh, and this style we recognize, Welcome back, “Anon”.
  
  Though you may have to work hard to get your Baghdad bob-nickname back it seems you are off to a flying start.
  
  Pro tip bro…the internet is still free for pirates. Not so much for blind sheep. Who will not remain blind for too long.
  
  And here’s a hint: The six strikes scheme is because fact that SOPA and PIPA could not pass. You think a law banning private communication has any better chance?
anonymous

the most important information that needs posting is how many people move to a new ISP and how many say ‘enough is enough’ and stop using the internet altogether. then we need to see what increase (none at all!!) there is in purchases of media that the industries keep insisting aren’t happening because of file sharing. shame we cant see data that shows how many media items are NOT bought because the industries wont listen to the pleas of the customers!!
Snagletoofer

So when do google users and bing users get hit with this? When do libraries get hit? Used record/movie stores? I mean where will these copyright nazis stop. Slippery slope we are going down and seems as though they will stop at nothing to sue their very own clients. AT&T spies on US citizens already, Verizon does as well so do the rest for all we know, it’s now the MPAA & RIAA turn to get some along with the government. We are turning into everything they warned us about. Sad times, sad times.
- Who
  
  “Used record/movie stores?” USED AKA 2nd hand, isn’t considered illegal yet. and I stress YET.
  - Snagletoofer
    
    But the gears are moving on this trust me. Some artists are starting to complain. MPAA and RIAA ears are perked up. Because in this case you are making money ( albeit not much) in either store credit or cash.
    - Who
      
      I already know all this crap. I also know that a SHIT LOAD of business will go out if they do make 2nd hand sales illegal.
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      It would be impossible for them to make selling anything ‘used’ illegal. Can’t and won’t ever happen.
    - Fantastic
      
      they’ve been bitching about the second hand market for decades. And only the crap artists that can’t land a decent live gig are the ones complaining.
    - Ray186
      
      You know the record company executives (leeches) would like you to believe that all of this litigation is being done on the behalf of their artists, the proven truth is that this is just an extortion scheme by the music publishers to make a quick buck.
  - garf02
    
    look at the video game industry and all the butthurt about used games sales in Bestbuy and Gamestop
    - Who
      
      best buy sells USED games now?
    - garf02
      
      For a long time
    - Who
      
      O.o WOW….I don’t bother going in to that store anymore. but thanks for the info.
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      I stopped buying anything at Best Buy years ago. Their prices are way to high on almost everything, but 12 years ago I used to find some great CD’s in their bargain bins for $1.99 once in a while.
  - ashbar
    
    Well if that’s the case, all movies and other downloads are ‘used/2nd hand’ as well right? They were purchased or downloaded by someone else before the rest of us get to it so why isn’t it fair for us to claim that these downloads are used as well?
    - SCP-914
      
      Until you factor in the 1:1 ratio. A single disc can only be in one place at one time. That’s a big difference between used and piracy. Unfortunately, companies are too blind to see that.
    - Who
      
      LOL it is fair. look up US copyright act and read.
      
      see they don’t want you to think that you CAN educate yourself in this matter. THEY want to educate you in to thinking that there way is the law. Y do you think the FBI isn’t the ones doing this? you should also have a look over @ the mpaa’s website. and read what they have to say about the US copyright act and what they say is fair.
      it contradicts what the copyright law says.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    Well, the RIAA and MPAA have lobbied for abolishing first sale.
    
    Personally I believe their greed is making them overreach. And the legislature is slowly waking up to this.
- Whatever
  
  Soon, very soon…….
- http://twitter.com/Jatthewmoly Matt
  
  My library already blocked many sites for “file sharing ” and torrents don’t work also. I pretty sure vpns work though.
DutchGuest

We’ll see how willing the ISP’s will be once many of their subscribers, sick and tired of the ‘warnings’, either switch to a provider who isn’t in bed with the MAFIAA, or will downgrade to the cheapest internet packages available, badly cutting into the ISP’s profits.

They should have taken the same stance iiNet did down under; ISP’s are NOT the internet police, and their defacto Common Carrier status protects them from any invasive legal harassment.
But these twits decided to play ball, and now the MAFIAA’s demands list will just grow and grow, and eventually all U.S. ISP’s involved in this will be forced to start blocking access to any site that is deemed to ‘foster illegal filesharing’…
Which, as i stated, will end up putting a SERIOUS dent in their profits; if THAT doesn’t put them at odds with the MAFIAA, then they deserve to go the way of the Dodo.
- Carlton
  
  Don’t allow the ISP’s presumption of your guilt to stand!
  
  Send them a reply letter denying everything and demanding they get a court order before damaging you by throttling your bandwidth, or you’ll see them in court.
- Guest
  
  You’re Dutch – you’re in a much better scene than the Americans are. (How’s that for ‘Freedom’, America?) Our politics aren’t as fucked up (well.. except for joining the EU, that IS a major mistake) as in the USA, and the power of copyright organisations is more limited (even though I’d gladly destroy BREIN if I could).
  
  There are not alternatives in the USA. The big 5 mentioned here cover most of the current internet connections, and many customers have choice (or rather the illusion of choice) between only 2 companies who connect to your house. I’m not entirely sure about virtual providers, but given the corrupted state of the American content industry, I doubt these actually have a fair chance. Or they’d be bought out in a flash.
  
  ‘MURICA!
  - Asashii
    
    then dont get caught illegal downloading, hows that for freedom!!
    - cofree
      
      your right
      ill get on the open wifi down the road and get the other guy in trouble.
      
      Funny part is he is a Judge.
    - jo
      
      hehehe ;)
    - Ralph Brubaker
      
      lol
- http://news.mensactivism.org/ Jhon Deo
  
  The problem is that in a lot of places in America large companies have a monopoly, or duopoly on internet service. A lot of people have no alternatives to switch over to. Of course they could just get a cheap seedbox like I am.
  
  But the torrenting community will still be hurt in the long run. Less people will try torrenting. Which means less seeds, shorter lived torrents, and less content in the long run.
  - Asashii
    
    thats the whole point, to stop illegal downloading, if you keep getting letters and you have no alternative, you have 2 choices, keep doing and get busted or stop. hey anything that keeps file sharing from being so mainstream is A-O.K. with me, to many idiots with free reign talking about fight club!!
    - MadAsASnake
      
      The problem with this argument is that an awful lot of these IP-based accusations are without basis in fact. Sendiing letter after letter too someone who is not downloading tends to be completely counter-productive. (and to those that do are generally a lost cause anyway)
    - http://www.facebook.com/ampage.grietu Ampage Grietu
      
      New sanctions aren’t going to do anything. The current copyright laws have harsh penalties as it is, but people still pirate. Need I remind you about the hundreds of lawsuits brought about by the economic giants?
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      …the irony.
      
      The first thing six strikes will generate is a wonderful golden opportunity for the neighborhood troll to use something like the reaver hack to nail whoever in the area s/he doesn’t like six times in a row for downloading german goat porn.
      
      The next thing it will generate is an explosive surge in VPN usage. And a great demand for extra-strength wireless antennas.
  - DutchGuest
    
    If you had read and comprehended all that i wrote, you’d understand why a monopoly doesn’t mean a thing.
    
    If everyone who has high speed internet with the ISP’s that agreed to the Six Strikes scheme downgraded to the lowest speed, and made sure the ISP knew why, you’d see them either quickly dropping the Six Strikes crap, or adapting some other means of satisfying their Customers.
    Nothing like a net profit decrease of a good 50%-75% to wake these idiots up.
    And like i said, if it doesn’t work, people can unsubscribe from the service alltogether; it’s not like not having an Internet connection is the end of the world.
    If everyone did that either the ISP dies, or adapts.
    
    The fact that so few consumers REALLY understand just how much power they hold always baffles me to no end.
    One well-organised protest run in which all their customers downgrade, and these ISP’s will be singing a VERY different tune, because having to fight a few lawsuits is nowhere near as bad financially as losing more than half of your net profit in the course of a few weeks.
    Their shareholders would be in an uproar faster than you can say ‘supercalifragilisticexpialidocious’, because ‘MONEY !!11!1!’, and they would demand some sort of action be taken to safeguard their lawfull profiteering over that of the MAFIAA.
- knglerxst
  
  The problem with this is in a lot of places there’s an ISP oligarchy. The cable and dsl providers where I live are both part of the big 5. I’d have to move at least an hour away to get service from another company. That’s not very practical. I guess I’ll have to go the VPN route, and try not to get caught in the first place.
Guest

News just in. More and more people are subscribing to MEGA. Thank you US government for increasing membership of MEGA. Dotcom send his Mega thanks. :)
- AFriendlyDude
  
  Oh, please let’s get the facts straight. All it does is to increase MEGA’s need for more DMCA officers.
Internet_Zen_Master

So, does anyone know if there’s gonna be some big announcement about this via a change of TOS by the ISPs, or what?

I rarely use BitTorrent anyway, but at the same time, how will we know if this is actually happening or not?

As the Zen Master says, “We’ll see.”
Guest

Mystery punishments? Let me guess – two years to catch the wrong guy, or get $600 for an artist that never gets paid to the artist (not mutually exclusive). I’m shaking in my shoes.
illuminati are scum

In other news illuminati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hguXWqHEkMo
illuminati are scum

911 inside joke
9/11 Predictive Programming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEK8ugdtK6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WW6eoLcLI
Whatever

The real mystery is why they allow double the number of strikes for one of their own citizens which is not even a law compared to the amount of strikes they demand “as actual law” outside the USA.
9/11 Predictive Programming

911 Inside Job
9/11 Predictive Programming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEK8ugdtK6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3WW6eoLcLI
bikini thong_girl

Even after I have the following setup below as described in my previous thread here (see link below to my previous post and the information in the body of the post that describes my setup), do I also have to “Bind” an IP address to my uTorrent Client in order to make sure that all traffic is going through my VPN Only in order to prevent my bittorrent traffice from being open to the ISP?

I am referring to the instructions here to “bind the ip address” to the bittorrent client:
http://swimminginthought.com/bind-utorrent-specific-ip-route-vpn-speed/

The link below and my previous post is about “stopping my utorrent/bittorrent client” from running/uploading/downloading content if my VPN connection goes down.

Here is the link to my previous thread and the information I posted in the body to save you from having to click on the link and go to the prevous post.
Stopping uTorrent Client when VPN goes down…

I use uTorrent as a Bittorrent Client and I have Windows 7 as an Operating System.
I have Windows 7 configured so that if my VPN goes down, then it stops a certain application from running (uTorrent is stopped if the VPN goes down).

But the problem is that ever since I set this up since day one, the VPN does correctly “stop” working if my VPN goes down, but the torrent seeding/leeching
does not “stop instantly” but just “gradually decreases” until the uTorrent seeding/leeching traffic goes down to zero (0), and then when the VPN goes back up, the uTorrent seeding/leeching “gradually” increases from zero (0) leeching/seeding speed to the full speed.

My question is, while the VPN connection is down and the uTorrent is “gradually slowing down”, based on my scenario above, is my torrent traffic public to my ISP?

Do I need to some how “cut” the torrent traffic another way?

By the way, I use the following instructions/links to setup my Windows 7 to stop uTorrent if the VPN goes down:

http://practicalrambler.blogspot.ch/2011/05/how-to-block-all-internet-traffic.html
- VPN
  
  Install VPNCheck app.
  It’s free.
  Easy to set up.
  If VPN disconnects then app shuts down torrent client.
  Once VPN reconnects app will restart the torrent client.
- Whatever
  
  Totally aside of your setup (i won’t go into correct or not). The effect you are seeing you might call an optical illusion. Because if there is no connection then there is no traffic.
  
  For connection going down: A lot of programs are averaging bandwidth with previous values so it continues to add the new value of zero to the previous average (i obviously don’t know what algorithm they actually use).
  
  For connection up again: Here it is a bit different. It is not only the average (of zero) but also the fact that you need to establish a whole set of new connections to (different?) peers on the same torrent that influences the resulting fade-in.
  
  I think it might be better to look at the graph in utorrent with 1 second resolution so try to check that. But do keep in mind that the path between 2 measurements is a line. So a steep line to zero is NOT a gradual fade-out.
  
  To be convinced you should try disconnection on the network driver level (network icon) to see what happens. It is then not possible for uTorrent to have any communication so if you see it gradually decreasing you know it isn’t true.
  
  (i did mention earlier i would type a more useful comment)
- Ray186
  
  What you want to use is a program called VPN Lifeguard, in addition to “Bind IP Addresses”. This will automatically kill your BT program instantly. While it claims to only work on pptp connections, I know from personal use that it also works on L2TP, and SSTP connections.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

Real pirates don’t get caught, but the innocent and clueless do.
MadAsASnake

It’s fascinating that they are not telling you what they might do in their TOS’s, yet they expect people to follow them. The other thin I find laughable is that the whole mess is based solely on totally unevidenced accusations. You can bet the last place the ISP’s want this will be in front of a judge.
- Carlton
  
  An “unevidenced accusation” by the copyright holder is exactly what it is. But it’s up to YOU to deny it, or the accusation stands uncontested.
  
  Stand up for your rights! Respond to the infringement notice from your ISP with a demand for DUE PROCESS before they throttle your bandwidth, or you’ll sue!
  - MadAsASnake
    
    Ain’t gonna happen tillthe DEA (UK) goes live…
SCP-682

Couldn’t trackers look up MarkMonitor’s IP address(es) and use that information to block them? I mean, it is possible to block IP addresses, so blocking them is possible. If they try to manipulate their IP address to bypass the block, it would just show how weak an IP address is as evidence.
- ralph
  
  OpenBittorrent, a large public tracker, is run by the Pirate Bay crew. I suppose they might consider blacklisting MarkMonitor ip addresses, but then how would all the MarkMonitor employees get their home entertainment?
Andrew Lee

Oh man they’re killing me this shit makes me want to go download everything I can find. Okay not really but still the only people that will be hurt by then is people that don’t clue.

There are a lot of problems with their plan.
1. VPN

2. Everything that exist as a torrent is also on a billion file hosting services.
A premium link gen offers quality downloading speeds with zero wait time for most premium hosting services. “There are A LOT of premium link gens around!”

3. When the ISPs start losing customers will they still be so eager to bend over for Hollywood?

4. What happens when people go around warloading for shits n giggles?

5. Is their method still limited to requesting and downloading a small part of the file from a user? If so all you need is a outbound and auto rotate.
I’m guessing it is since if there were allowed to upload it would be entrapment.
knglerxst

I love how they talk about pirates needing “education”. They’re the ones that need to be educated.
- jo
  
  Very Communist (and that’s speaking as one who lived for an unfortunate time under one of the world’s last remaining Communist dictatorships…) “re-education” – people should wake the fuck up to the fact that the USA is becoming more like a police state every week.
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Who

I post this question in the other post on TF related to this.

now that its Mon, has any one got any email for there 1st strike yet?
http://www.facebook.com/Joshka89 Joshua Selvidge

Haha should be called “Make piracy worse” instead…
Josh

This is completely insane. What about all of the websites that legally put up torrent links for their own free things?
Any Free to play (F2P) game site offers Torrents as an alternative download method, as well as a huge majority of freeware sites.
If you’re going to make it so people can’t use the internet they are paying for, for what they want, then you might as well just make the internet illegal.
I feel that a few months into this little scheme of theirs they will see how stupid of an idea it is to make torrenting “Punishable”
Who gives a shit?
I certainly don’t.
What’s a better way to get your name out there, movie/game/book/music wise to have it in a top 10-20 newest/most downloaded torrents for the day?
This newest “strike” against “pirates” and “hackers” or whatever shit, is going to have more negative consequences for the rest of the world than it is the actual Torrent Pirates.
How many 60 year old dudes using their brand new computer can you see clicking the ‘Download faster with torrents!’ button on a freeware site, then getting an E-mail from their ISP telling them that they messed up?
Imagine all the new Phishing methods of having fake “Untrackable torrent download!” buttons, or the fake E-mails stating how “You’ve downloaded with torrents, click here to see what!” links.
The internet works as it is right now, don’t fuck with it.
- AFriendlyDude
  
  “This is completely insane. What about all of the websites that legally put up torrent links for their own free things?”
  
  It simply doesn’t affect them and their users.
  
  Are you sure you understand that agreement?
- ralph
  
  Josh
  
  You make several good points here, especially the one concerning 60+ year old dudes. Since Bittorrent still works without port forwarding (albeit often slowly) I can see this kind of thing happening a lot with the Copyright Alert System.
  
  However, I’m not sure there is as big a correlation between age and computer literacy as you indicate. There are a lot of very clueless young people as well.
  
  -well-camouflaged old guy
- http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
  
  There is a simple solution my friend. DO NOT DOWNLOAD MAINSTREAM MOVIES AND MUSIC!!! Anything else is fair game for the most part. Fuck 2pac, 50cent, Areo smith, Britteny Spears, Lil Wayne, Justin Bieber, etc etc… who needs their music anyways?? And if and when anyone is able to get caught up in this six strike situation after their sixth time of getting caught deserves the punishment that they get. Because the way I see it, if someone repeats an offense six times and gets caught all times, is no different than stealing and being busted. I do not see them as a THIEF!, but as an IDIOT that got busted 6 times that could not learn better and change their strategy of downloading.
  - Caspin
    
    Yeah, fuck the mainstream bullshit. Although, some is good and can teach a writer or film student a lot. My advice: go to public wifi spots for the next 30 days and receive all that you can that is mainstream. Build a personal library. Then stop. Then just go for the older stuff, like 70′s and 80′s music and films, and even older stuff. Then, when downloading anything becomes so illegal that life sucks when you do, we all share with each other face to face. This is funny, because they said tech was dividing us, but the laws are making us come back together to share tech the safest way. Hilarious. And interesting.
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Kiefer

and what if you are using 4G?
- http://twitter.com/Jatthewmoly Matt
  
  Be safe and use VPN I have Verizon 4g and use a VPN for torrents. AT&T and Verizon wireless are basically the same thing.
http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas

There is a simple solution my friends. DO NOT DOWNLOAD MAINSTREAM MOVIES
AND MUSIC!!! Anything else is fair game for the most part. Fuck 2pac,
50cent, Areo smith, Britteny Spears, Lil Wayne, Justin Bieber, etc
etc… who needs their music anyways?? And if and when anyone is able to
get caught up in this six strike situation after their sixth time of
getting caught deserves the punishment that they get. Because the way I
see it, if someone repeats an offense six times and gets caught all
times, is no different than stealing and being busted. I do not see them
as a THIEF!, but as an IDIOT that got busted 6 times that could not
learn better and change their strategy of downloading.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation
  
  Except, they weren’t doing anything wrong, so should not be punished.
  - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
    
    ??
    - Anyone
      
      sharing culture should not be punished
      
      that’s how society grows
    - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
      
      The ‘FINAL SOLUTION’ is Fuck mainstream music and movies.
      
      Do away from mainstream entertaining music and movies and those bitches will have no tree to bark up at all. There is so much more better stuff out their than primarily mainly MAINSTREAM garbage.
      
      I download frequent and allot and will probably never run into problems of piracy. (knock on wood) Just for the simple fact that I do not listen to mainstream music.And if there is a move I want to watch I use net flix or I rent it and rip it if it is good. You Tube is good source of documentary movies as well. With all mentioned though simply put, fuck downloading mainstream content. If anything RENT it and RIP it.
      
      Here is a photo of my used to be Demonoid account. upload and download share ratio when DEMONOID was DEMONOID. And of the content I download and uploaded was modified software and underground independent music. And I never got a letter in the mail from my internet provider.
    - Who
      
      so you think that just because the MPAA/RIAA says that sharing there content is illegal that it is? LOL
      if you actually read US copyright law, you would know better. and I don’t mean the fucking DMCA. I mean the US copyright act. the DMCA is 1/16 of the copyright act,
      look it up.
    - Ophelia Millais
      
      Encouraging people to read the actual law is a good idea. There is nothing explicitly in the law about file sharing, true, but there is a general prohibition on copying and distributing without permission. Courts and Congress agree with the interpretation that this applies online, in regard to file sharing, just as much as offline.
      
      17 USC § 106 (1) & (3) – Only the copyright owner is entitled to copy, distribute, etc.
      
      17 USC § 501 (a) & (b) – When anyone else does it without permission (“license”) from the copyright owner, it is an infringement of the copyright owner’s rights, and the copyright owner can sue the infringer.
      
      17 USC § 504 – The copyright owner can sue for actual damages & profits, or for statutory damages.
      
      17 USC § 506 – The government can bring criminal charges against an infringer if the infringement was “willful” and meets additional criteria: it was done for profit, or the infringing content is worth $1000, or it involves online leaking of pre-release material.
      
      17 USC § 107-112 – Certain copying, distributing, etc. is not an infringement if it meets the fairly well-defined criteria for certain types of exceptions, including fair use, library lending, the secondhand market, etc.
      
      Unauthorized file sharing generally doesn’t meet any of the requirements for the exceptions; courts and Congress agree on this point. I don’t know how you can conclude otherwise.
      
      Not saying I like it; the law just is what it is.
    - Liam JH
      
      17 USC § 504 – The copyright owner can sue for actual damages & profits, or for statutory damages.
      
      which is zero.
    - Who
      
      and you skipped the parts that apply to the exemption of infringements. I figured some one will pull that shit.
      
      “17 USC § 107-112 – Certain copying, distributing, etc. is not an infringement if it meets the fairly well-defined criteria for certain types of exceptions, including fair use, library lending, the second handmarket, etc”
      
      altering what it says eh. by what you posted its ok to make a copy and sell it as used. and that’s NOT what the copyright law says.
      
      “Unauthorized file sharing generally doesn’t meet any of the requirements for the exceptions; courts and Congress agree on this point. I don’t know how you can conclude otherwise.”
      
      “courts and Congress agree on this point”
      o really? then Y the hell is sharing still happening?
      Y has all there attempt’s to stop it failed?
      Congress has actually told the MPAA/RIAA to take a hike on this subject. so how is that agreeing?
      
      people please read the actual US copyright act for your self. this users is clearly just altering shit to make the MPAA/RIAA look correct.
- djnforce9
  
  Kind of hard to avoid especially since quality indie music requires a lot of digging to find and indie films are bound to be very low budget (there are exceptions of course). Also, you may find that you like a mainstream movie or song in which case you’ll be tempted to download it.
- joexxx
  
  What’s the offense again?
- Need4Speed
  
  Yeah, keep hiding your heads in the dirt.
  
  I can download whatever I want, my country doesn’t care about copyright, so all what we’re doing now is telling to ISPs they must give a better service and fastest connections, they increased the speeds and reduced the prices again in less than 6 months.
  
  BTW, I have all the music of 2Pac in Flac format, ho-ho!
  I downloaded that 1 year ago.
JordanKratz

Fuck the MAFIAA and their Stooge ISP’s ! Here’s hoping this so backfires in their faces……….Want to see them lose the War.
sodbuster

stupid people stop acting like scared sheep ,you dont need VPN just yet .just ignore stupid warnings from ISPs ,if ISPs throttle your speed call them up every day and complain , if they dont restore your speed within week dont pay them money .
Before 6 strikes warnings implementation, MAFIAA could log your IPs and sue you for millions and you didnt run like stupid sheep to get VPN ,why do it now? when you hit the end of road and have no other options then you get VPN .
- BallBuster
  
  Mod router MAC address every day.
  Scratch balls.
  Reboot modem and router.
  Scratch balls.
  Restart NIC.
  Scratch balls.
  Start your day :)
  - Who
    
    that don’t work if your ISP is providing you with a static IP numb nuts.
MadAsASnake

Now, when (if) the DEA goes live in the UK, I’ll be getting a VPN and dropping my spend on media by a similar amount. I see no reason to redunce my media usage however, so it’d mean I actually start actively pirating… wonder how many feel the same way…
- ScrewEwe2
  
  I’m going to just keep on doing what I’ve been doing for the last 14 years and making adjustments as needed, as I have been doing for the last 14 years. With Napster and a 56k Modem, it started out as downloading one song at a time and has progressed over time to downloading and uploading multiple discographies at a time.
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Anonymous

Good thing my ISP isn’t apart of this shit..
- Guest
  
  Yet.
WStone77

Ask me if I care? or better yet ask me if anyone should care lol.
Thomas7

In Your Face Hollywood…….None Cares..
sharms

There is going to emerge all kinds of fraud from this. People will pay up out of fear to fraudsters. This is a disaster. The is a civil matter. Let the companies follow the usual civil procedures. ISPs should not be made to be the internet police.
- joexxx
  
  Pay for what?
The_Strawbear

Query:

Are your strikes carried between ISPs?

Can you rack up 5 strikes on each?

Is there a time limit for each strike before it becomes invalid?

Does anyone, anywhere really have any idea how this will work?
commenter8

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/02/25/copyright-alert-system/

[Six Strikes is brought to you by] Reuters-owned firm Mark Monitor, which has 100 employees and a suite of automated tools for watching Torrent sites to catch the IP addresses sharing and downloading content.

“We see 20-30 million infringements every day,” said Thomas Sehested, who is in charge of antipiracy services and technology at Mark Monitor.

[...] The RIAA and MPAA’s members tell Mark Monitor which shows, movies and songs to look for, and it then performs its monitoring magic and sends along shame lists to the ISPs. (Interestingly, the porn industry which has long complained of the toll of illegal downloading on its profits was left out of the Six Strikes deal.) [...] The system was negotiated by industry group the Center for Copyright Information, which [...] has an annual budget of up to $2 million jointly funded by the RIAA, MPAA and the participating ISPs.

[...] “I think it’s going to be reasonably effective,” says Ernesto (who goes by that name alone), editor in chief of TorrentFreak, a website that covers pirate news and has been covering Six Strikes since talk of it first surfaced in 2011. “For consumers, it’s not a bad thing. I think there are a lot of casual downloaders who do it because it’s easy. A big group of those will be scared if they get these messages and will stop. They won’t know how to prevent these messages or not get caught.” [...]
- Who
  
  WoW so what IF users change the file names? that would completely FUCK that system over LOL
  
  MPAA/RIAA=stupid no?
Rekrul

Of course they’ll take repeat infringers to court. After all the effort they’ve put into things like the three strikes plans and wanting higher penalties for copyright infringement, do you really think they’re just going to shrug when six strikes doesn’t work and the same IP address keeps showing up in the logs?
- joexxx
  
  How is that different than before 6 strikes?
wargamer1969

Good luck with that!
pieman

remote vmc and/or seedbox 1gbps :-), faster than anything here
http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas

The ‘FINAL SOLUTION’ is Fuck mainstream music and movies.

Do away
from mainstream entertaining music and movies and those bitches will
have no tree to bark up at all. There is so much more better stuff out
their than primarily mainly MAINSTREAM garbage.

I download
frequent and allot and will probably never run into problems of piracy.
(knock on wood) Just for the simple fact that I do not listen to
mainstream music.And if there is a move I want to watch I use net flix
or I rent it and rip it if it is good. You Tube is good source of
documentary movies as well. With all mentioned though simply put, fuck
downloading mainstream content. If anything RENT it and RIP it.

Here
is a photo of my used to be Demonoid account. upload and download share
ratio when DEMONOID was DEMONOID. And of the content I download and
uploaded was modified software and underground independent music. And I never got a letter in the mail from my internet provider.
- ScrewEwe2
  
  I like to steer clear of FINAL SOLUTION’S.
  - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
    
    Bahahaha you know who I took that phrase from huh? :)
    
    I know you do..
Guest

Land of the free right?
Policies based on fear and censorship, all service providers bulled by the media giants into this scam.
- joexxx
  
  Then they need to die. Stop using them and that’s it.
- Eddie M
  
  You forgot to me to mention the corrupt banks and Federal reserve that guarantee perpetual debt.. And money, the exist of this note made from cotton and linen shows how messed up the US/Global society really are… What is money really? Nothing You cannot eat money or building a house with. So NO freedom not even close. We are dancers to a dicordant system
http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas

I wonder if Bit torrent sites need to attempt to do some unique filtering and curb what mainstream junk can and can not be uploaded. Could that be a win/win situation for both sides?
- joexxx
  
  Hmm… no.
  - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
    
    But I do think sooner or later this cat and mouse game with corporate mainstream will come to an end with Mainstream winning. I think the only way to beat them at their own game would be to promote modified, underground, independent, and software music and movies.
    
    And to promote recording copying and ripping of mainstream music and movies in your own home and not over the internet.
    - joexxx
      
      There is no game here… at least “corporate mainstream” is not a player.
      Considering that there are more than 4 billion copies of songs are downloaded on P2P every day, “corporate mainstream” have lost anything that they hoped for a LONG time ago.
    - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
      
      In a nutshell, do not download Justin Beiber CD. And do not download the new Disney movie or Sony brand movie and you should be OK with downloading.
      
      If one plays by those rules then they will be ok. The people that are downloading the new release movies all the time is what pisses off Hollywood.
      
      I say fuck Hollywood and promote underground because we are at a point where we can. 15 years ago we never had as much stuff on the internet like we do now. Now we have so much stuff that we do not need to rely on Brittney Spears music and Disney movies to entertain us anymore.
      
      Come on people! spill your guts to me and talk/type some more.
    - Ophelia Millais
      
      Hmm, well, avoiding recent and perennially in-print content might reduce your risk, but since the notification work is being dumped on the ISPs, there’s not much incentive for the copyright owners to be selective about enforcement. So I would expect to see notices going out for even very limited sharing of older, obscure, and out-of-print material.
      
      Avoiding content from the major record companies and movie/TV studios might help as well, but the RIAA and MPAA have a lot of members, not just the majors.
      
      I guess it remains to be seen what thresholds, if any, will be in effect for the Six Strikes notices. It would help if people would post them publicly once they get them…
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      “I say fuck Hollywood and promote underground…”
      Everyone’s tastes in music and movies varies greatly and what you may find entertaining, others may not. I have never downloaded Brittney Spears or Justin Bieber because I think they both suck, but the people that download that shit more than likely wouldn’t be into Napalm Death. It’s up to us to use protection whether for fucking, or for sharing fucking music or whatever.
    - Liam JH
      
      Ah Napalm Death, good times. I just found Sabbat’s ‘History of a Time to Come’ through a nice p2p site (to replace my overplayed vinyl) seeing as I already bought it
    - Liam JH
      
      Erm – am I missing something here, but I feel much happier ‘ripping off’ Disney and the rest of the MAFIAA/MPAA than I would ‘ripping off’ an indie producer/artist’s, you know the people who deserve my money.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Point is you can “rip off” neither.
      
      If you could, the MPAA/RIAA would have died of cashflow absence a thousand times over.
      
      But as an ineffectual symbolic gesture, I agree with you.
    - Liam JH
      
      yeah – I used the ” bit because I wasn’t quite comfortable with the wording. No monies has been harmed.
      
      XD
    - http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
      
      ppsshhh U are not going to give the indie people money anyways chump! And most Indie music is free. And most Indie music publishers do not cry like the mainstream multi billion dollar bitches when there music is pirated.
    - Liam JH
      
      Oh am I not, I spend more money going to gigs, buying merch. and cd’s than I do on downloads.
      Indie publishers still wanna make a living – and I even buy games through steam from indie developers.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1001964501 Greg Os

0strikes dot net dot nz :P
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/address-six-strikes-plan-being-pursued-att-cablevision-systems-comcast-time-warner-cable-and-verizon/gFySGW4B

Really want to see the how they will respond, cant see the goverment siding with the people over the big companies but mind as well force them to take a stance.
- Fantastic
  
  First Lady appearing on the Oscars and giving accolades to all Hollywood does kinds seals that deal.
  - Caspin
    
    Not to mention, she announced the best pic award for the movie Argo, which was about a covert operation in Iran, while we are presently being fed info to make us deathly afraid of Iran even though the truth is their civilian nuclear power plants have nothing to do with military weapons at all. Invasion, anyone?
    - Reasonablecash
      
      Pretty sure it’s not their civilian power plants anyone is worried about, Caspin, unless they’ve somehow found a way to launch them at other countries.
      
      Weaponized nuclear material, however…
    - jo
      
      fear monger. gtfoh spreading BS innuendo that Iran somehow represents a threat to US national interest – it doesn’t! MSM, however, acting on behalf of “anonymous US GOVT sources” has apparently succeeded in convincing you that it (Iran) is…
rediffusion

I am not really familiar with VPN. Could somebody recommend a reputable service? What’s BT Guard like?
- VPN
  
  CactusVPN. SSTP tunnels through anything.
  - rediffusion
    
    Thanks. I’m going to give CactusVPN a try. Is there a simple tutorial on how to get it set up for using Vuze on a Mac?
    - VPN
      
      CactusVPN has setup tutorials for MAC.
      SSTP only for windows but OpenVPN and L2TP can be used on a MAC. See if VPNCheck (free) is also available for MAC. Also use DNS servers (OpenDNS maybe). DNS leaks = BAD.
      Sign up for free trial and kick the tires.
- Reasonablecash
  
  Awesome and cheap, has been my experience. My only gripe is it doesn’t work with utorrent for Mac, but that’s on uTorrent, not BT.
  - http://twitter.com/Syke1981 Michael Sicilia
    
    BTGuard works with uTorrent for Mac (and. I’m running it now, have you checked their website recently for compatablity? MY only gripe is that Transmission won’t work with proxies, at least that I am aware of.
Anonymous

I’m in college, and i torrent. Why do i torrent? let’s see… tuition is expensive, books are expensive, housing is expensive, food is expensive, and after all that is paid for i pretty much have no money, if any at all. so instead of being miserable because i can’t watch that movie that costs $20 that i can’t pay for, i torrent that movie and have a well deserved break from textbooks and note-taking.

but oh, wait! Now i can’t torrent! my wifi is super slow already, so i can’t add any more protection. how will i get that entertainment i need? i guess i won’t, dang it.

Here’s to many more weekends watching the same old crap on netflix!
- derp
  
  Multiple free VPNReactor accounts.
- Ralph Brubaker
  
  That’s a pisspoor excuse for torrenting, mate. lol.
  
  Serious.
- Ijustdon’teven
  
  So, you’re saying that because you choose to spend money on (very worthwhile) things, businesses whose aim is to make money for their shareholders should give you their products for free?
clynx

Come on everyone and dust off that old DVD player because that is where the future of tech is going. Backwards.
- joexxx
  
  Really? Why is that?
????

so, will peerblocker and other such programs not work?
- BJonesTF
  
  Since they NEVER have, what do you think would change now?
  
  Seriously, they have not EVER worked.
  - joexxx
    
    That would be false.
    - Who
      
      no that would true. every one that I have talked to on torrent sites have told me that they DON’T work. and after running test’s I have concluded that the DON’T.
      well they actually they do work…the defiantly BLOCK pears. do they prevent any one from getting your IP? HELL NO. do they prevent monitoring of your online activity? FUCK NO.
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      Of course they don’t prevent monitoring, but they can and do prevent connection. They sure as hell aren’t perfect, but then again, nothing is perfect. I will keep using Peer Block as I have since Peer Guardian and later Peer Block first came on the scene, because in my opinion they do add some protection, but for those who’s opinion is, that they are bogus and counterproductive, y’all are free to not use them and in the end, the whole P2P situation comes down to freedom.
    - joexxx
      
      You don’t understand how they work. That’s why you think they don’t work.
    - BJonesTF
      
      Oh, believe me, it’s true. It’s common knowledge that they don’t work (except for the ultracrepidarians, but that’s what makes them that)
      
      I say that after 5 years of research on the topic. The kicker is, the method of identifying to put on the list is laughably bogus. But then, so is every other claim made by the blocklist groups. That’s probably why BISS hide their identity so well (to a level I’ve not seen outside very well funded lobby groups)
      
      But seriously, the whole premise of blocklists rests on a few assumptions, which don’t stand up to scrutiny. Really, they don’t. And from the anti-p2p side, blocklists are as easier to circumvent than the TPB block is. And we’ve shown dozens of ways to do that.
    - joexxx
      
      I don’t believe you. They work reasonably well.
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joexxx

Much Ado about nothing.
This is a private agreement between ISP and rights holders. It has no legal power.
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Thruth

The problems with the americans today is that they have no f…ing balls. What the hell happens to your country? Your ancestor would have been pist-off to see what’s happening right now! Days by days you’re losing your freedom and you’re doing nothing to stop this. The freedom that your ancestor fought so hard to get is disapearing days by days!
USA the fredom country…..More like.. USA, we bent and thake it in the ass!
- SadInsultedAmerican
  
  :-(
- http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
  
  Dude, where have you been? America has always been this way!
- http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas
  
  Look in American history books, their is obvious proof.
  
  I am American myself from the mid west states and in high school I the 90s I refused ALL MY American history and purposely flunked THEM because our history books were full of false propaganda of an image of what America wanted us to believe, and I did not absorb not a page of our literature.
  
  SHAME ON YOU USA!! from Christopher Columbus supposedly discovering America and to also have the bull shit HOLIDAY OF THANKSGIVING. Thanksgiving is only a reminder of the slaughtering and robbing of the native Americans land that we took from them and the mass killing that took place on Thanksgiving day.
  
  America is a scandals country. We will stab you in the back if you turn around or if you sleep with your eyes closed. So never turn your back and always keep your eyes open! lol
- Grush
  
  “Your ancestor would have been pist-off to see what’s happening right now!”
  
  What the hell you’re talking about? You have only read the US propaganda or you only have watched Hollywood movies. Freedom? USA is just founded on oppression, how many times they have created concentration camps in their own country? They obviously used different names for that, internment camps, reservations, etc. What about segregation? What about different rights for different people?
  
  Civil War? Many northerners and unionists were negligent about freed slaves, just learn about “contraband camps” and what was the reality for slaves, before, during and after emancipation of slaves.
  
  Only freedom they know was expulsion of British empire to do whatever they want with the territory. Finally go to learn what was the real ideology their forefathers had, here are some keywords, Benjamin Franklin, Anglo-Saxons and swarthy.
Sarcipious

I have been a internet pirate since The 52k modem.. I could get anything and every thing media based. Sure torrenttz have made it easy and fast but it has also take the challenge out of it. So I say bring it bitches. Write more programs and protocalls that I can hack and make useless so youcan write more. round and round it goes. It dont cost shit on my end but as for you dumb SOBs your greed cost you plenty.
Holololol

prepaid credit card VPN+seedbox. Come at me MPAA if you can find me that is.
BarryBonds

Has anyone received any alerts yet?

I almost want to turn off my VPN just to see what one looks like :P
haroooo

Speaking of VPN. Can anyone confirm the best VPN service (in terms of keeping no logs, encryption, and speeds)?

Currently using Vyper but looking to make a switch
- VPN
  
  Contact CactusVPN. I like their SSTP servers (US, UK, NL).
  Ask for a trial deal ($10 US for 3/months maybe?).
  Just send them an email and ask. Can’t hurt.
  Nice bunch of guys. It never hurts to say hello.
  
  Then kick the hell out of the connections.
  Test the crap out of it. Mine is screaming fast.
  (I also use it to cascade to other VPNs.)
  
  Good will goes a long way.
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Guest

Use the wireless internet connection of the judges to incriminate them. That will be fun.
http://twitter.com/OffBeatMammal Offbԑatmammal

and sadly that means I have to shut off my TOR node because right now I get multiple emails a day from Comcast telling me I’m downloading stuff I’ve never even heard of (or can watch anyway on Netflix or Amazon Prime)
DunzRunz

Never really thought about it like that before, It kinds makes sense.

NetAnon.da.bz
http://www.facebook.com/ken.bingham Ken Bingham

The Constitution grants Congress alone authority to enact copyright laws and only federal courts have jurisdiction to handle copyright cases and punish violators. The new Copyright Alert System (CAS) does an end run on the laws of the land and has set up a quasi-judicial system to punish copyright infringers apart from the federal courts.

This is blatantly unconstitutional and will be challenged.

Righthaven case law could even come into place here. Righthaven is now a defunct copyright troll but in their hay-day they were threatening to take the domain names of those they were suing for copyright infringement. Courts ruled that there was no provision in copyright law to award a domain name as part of a copyright infringement suit. Likewise there is no provision in copyright law for an ISP to deny or ramp down service as a punishment for copyright infringement. The ISPs along with the RIAA and MPAA are creating their own law and extra-judicial system to punish copyright violators.
Cardinal

That awkward moment for them when they finally realize that if I can’t get it for free there’s no way in hell I’m going to buy it.
- jo
  
  hehehe
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Acappella

So what you’re saying is, this only affects those who torrent… Welp, Mediafire and other sites like that already have everything I want. Good job, guys! You’ve done absolutely nothing to actually stop piracy! Not like you’ll be able to, but still.
dopplereffect

USENET Peace out!
Frank

“After the fifth alert, the content owner may pursue legal action against
the customer, and may seek a court order requiring AT&T to turn
over personal information to assist the litigation,” AT&T explained.”

My issue with this is that it doesn’t mean that all five alert were the result of sharing 1 particular content owner. It could have been 5 different content owner. Therefore, technically 1 alert per owner.

Furthermore, if the ISP is reducing your speed for 1 month. What prevents me for reducing my monthly payment. The service being advertise and for which a contract was agreed upon in exchange of a specific fees, is not being respected by the ISP. There’s a clear breach of contract there.

I think ISPs are opening a can of worms and exposing themselves to a shitload of lawsuits.
http://twitter.com/Syke1981 Michael Sicilia

So question, “After the fifth alert, the content owner may pursue legal action against the customer”. Does this mean it has to be 6 strikes agains the same content holder? Woudn’t the content holder be like TimeWarner, or Disney, not MPAA…?
- http://twitter.com/Syke1981 Michael Sicilia
  
  also, does anyone know if Transmission will play nice with BTGuards Torrent only Proxy? I can’t find anything out there that says Transmission does/will support proxies.
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If any ISP actually starts punishing anyone in the above mentioned ways they will get sued and lose since unless it is issued by a court they don’t have the legal right to do any of those “punishments”.
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Chubbs

Donkey boner
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004425990787 Steve Lee

Sen. Barbara Boxer in split crotch panties will come to your home to administer six strokes of her whip across your ass you, filthy, dirty, pirate.
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drbray

NO SIX STRIKES WON’T WORK! Here is the reason why it won’t work. All the users will do is to use a 128 bit encryption program to encrypt the “file(s)” and make the password greater than 21 characters. Then send it by regular email, use a remote access program, and/or VPN to exchange the files. It would take 2 years using a supercomputer just to decode the “file(s)” and no ISP is going to waste their resources on decoding thousands of files!
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PG

Well I use torrents and I just got 2 stupid “violation” e-mails… so I’m trying to figure out the whole proxy / vpn situation right now. I’m a regular person, not a techie or “real pirate” or whatever. But, as annoying as it is, even for someone like me, there are ways to work around it. Even with that I just kind of think, “so what” – they did this with Napster a while ago, and new programs came out to replace it. That’s the good thing about technology… they can never stop it now. The governments and ISPs and media companies can fight all they want and every month, a new way to get around it will come up. They will fight this useless battle until the internet gets shut down or they give up. With that in mind, it doesn’t seem a very big deal to me.
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Ya?

When will they put this in effect? I was waiting for them to explain that in the article. Will it come by surprise?

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