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“Six Strikes” Boosts Demand For BitTorrent VPNs and Proxies

The launch of the six strikes anti-piracy scheme in the United States has boosted demand for VPN services and BitTorrent proxies. Data from Google reveals a big surge in searches for terms such as “BitTorrent VPN” and “BitTorrent proxy” over the past two weeks. Some VPN providers see the scheme as a clear invasion of privacy and are encouraging people to protect themselves.

pirate runLast year a study in Sweden showed that many people respond to tough copyright enforcement measures by signing up for VPNs and other privacy services.

Instead of stopping their defiant habit, these file-sharers take measures to hide their IP-addresses and bypass the monitoring. The researchers predicted that this would also happen with the launch of the six-strikes system in the United States.

“Some people may stop or share less when they receive warnings, but there will also be a group that will respond to the warnings by becoming more anonymous. A third group will try to find other means to share files than BitTorrent, since these are not monitored,” researcher Stefan Larsson told TorrentFreak at the time.

Looking at Google’s search trends we see that this prediction has become reality. The volume of searches for “BitTorrent VPN” and “BitTorrent proxy” spiked when the copyright alert system launched.


BitTorrent VPN / Proxy searches over the past 90 days

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TorrentFreak talked to several VPN providers who confirm that interest in their services has increased. Some even reference the strikes scheme in their “marketing”, such as BeeVPN who highlighted in a blog post that people may want to protect themselves from being wrongfully accused.

“To prevent yourself from being caught in this endless loop of strikes and invasion of privacy use BeeVPN whenever you’re online and defend yourself against others seeing your real IP,” the company writes.

PrivateInternetAccess is not supportive of the six-strikes initiative either.

“The Copyright Alert System has similarities to some of the most draconian systems of control that were implemented by heavy-handed rulers during some of the darkest ages in the history of mankind. Big Brother would be proud,” PIA’s Andrew Lee told TorrentFreak.

Among other things Lee points out that the possibility of people being wrongfully accused is high, and that the system lacks any rights to due process. “As a result of CAS, we have seen an increased amount of discussion regarding VPNs around the social realm,” he says.

Criticism aside, the increased demand in anonymizer services does not mean that the six-strikes scheme has failed.

The Center for Copyright Information (CCI) and their partners don’t see these workarounds as a major problem. Right from the start they’ve made it clear that the program aims to educate the public, in particular the more casual file-sharer.

How many file-sharers stop pirating, and how many choose to hide instead is anyone’s guess at this point. However, recent trends suggest that encryption is becoming more mainstream, whether it’s for privacy protection, anti-piracy circumvention or freedom of speech.

That is, until anonymous VPNs are outlawed, as they appear to have been in Iran last week.

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  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    how “unexpected” lol

  • icec0ld

    Well look at that.

    In other news, the sky is blue and occasionally it rains. More on the predictable, soon.

    • http://twitter.com/MinnieHiebert Minnie Hiebert

      If you think Jimmy`s story is impossible…, last pay check my brothers father in-law basically also got paid $4472 sitting there from there apartment and their buddy’s sister`s neighbour has been doing this for 6 months and earnt over $4472 parttime from there laptop. use the advice at this address,………. BIT40. ℂOℳ

  • Ignas

    Let me guess, the next news will be about how VPN/Proxy made a million usd?

    • Guest

      I will be glad if that is the case.
      Don’t get me wrong: I want people to educate themselves (and they’ll have to, in US at least) and be more aware of their internet rights – also that will bring even more competition into VPN.
      outcome? more secure and private VPN and more privacy-educated people.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Indeed. From one point of view the romping copyright trolls have ensured that people online have become more aware of the value of common privacy.

        In the real world, people lock their doors and send their mail in envelopes because otherwise, well, opportunists will help themselves.

        And now online we have the cultists of the church of copyright filling that role of “bad guy to beware for” which we’ve in the real world assigned to the glue-sniffing punk out for something easy to lift he can convert into quick cash.

        And I can vouch for VPN competition being a good thing. Ten years ago, it was actually hard finding serious ones at reasonable rates.

  • boral

    It is an obvious fact that censoring in this way will boost demand for vpns.
    The copyright holders must know that even if they block all bittorrent traffic, still there will be piracy, as sharing is a natural instinct of every person .

    • Who

      ya they seem to ether not remember or know about the other p2p software out there that every one can go back to if the block BT.

    • Katherine Phillips

      The worst part about all of this is that they could stop piracy flat if the RIAA and the MPAA would just adapt to technology instead of outright rejecting it.

      AKA an official MPAA Youtube like service for Movies and a RIAA Pandora type service for music. Instead they just want to stick with what has worked in the past and take no chances at all.

    • namey

      Except for 2 year olds.

      Obviously everyone in the RIAA/MPAA are big children.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Big, spoiled ones at that.

        The thing is they’re an industry unable to realize that their “special” services of distribution don’t require a big industry anymore.

  • george the monkey

    it’s easy in a society like iran to ban vpn’s. their implementation of their own vpn service is laughable. it literally will track everyone who uses it. vpn’s in general are good, unfortunately some vpn providers are reticent at providing information on log keeping, others claim they don’t but they do. be very careful which vpn you may choose; my own thought is that a vpn provider based in the usa is a severe mistake regardless if they maintain logs or not. whether the usa will implement further repressive measures such as outlawing vpn’s or requiring them to maintain logs for significant lengths of time is yet to be seen. i think it’s inevitable tho. don’t even bother using a proxy, they’re just white flags.
    TF’s recently updated guide to vpn’s is quite good – pay very close attention to user comments.

    • Guest

      When SOPA/PIPA were being proposed in Congress, supporters pointed to the internet censorship in Iran, China, and Syria as a selling point, using such censorship as a model for SOPA/PIPA.

      Don’t be surprised to see the US take cues from Iran regarding VPNs sooner or later. Just be ready to SOPA-slap such proposals down when (not if) they appear.

      • Anon

        The problem with that point is two fold. The gov’t is not liable to terminate the companies who provide the services by declaring it illegal. That would cause the loss of thousands of jobs and seriously jepordize the security of anyone working abroad for their company ( and not just USA to overseas ). Corporate espionage is a real threat to companies who have to do business over multiple locations, so much that they will protect it regardless of what the MAFIAA tries to preach. I have a feeling that “Hollywood” would feel the sting of poking that bear for a long time to come if they did. So what if they just outlaw it for individuals and not those with a business license? Psh. That would require them to “catch” people using it. A non-American VPN provider would have 0 incentive to turn over records on who was using their services. Some of the companies don’t even keep records, just usernames and did they get money from you. ( Not even card numbers ). I work for a tech company and we have “clients” who we are allowed to access their systems through secure VPN tunnels. Without those, there is no way the information we receive would ever leave their buildings.

        • bobmail

          You are making the mistake of thinking that VPN as a protocol would be outlawed, that is not correct. What would likely change is that ANONYMOUS vpn wouldn’t be considered legal, and providers who allow a VPN connection would have to know who is connecting to them, log it, and log what IP address the are assigned ongoing.

          You are attempting to create a conflict where none exists. You can be pretty certain that most corporate networks already log each and every entry to their network via VPN. The only ones not logging are those who are trying to hide something.

          I am guessing that your company doesn’t allow people to VPN into your network and then download copyright material from torrents, right? I am betting your company logs every access, right?

          Why do you think there is a conflict here?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “What would likely change is that ANONYMOUS vpn wouldn’t be considered
          legal, and providers who allow a VPN connection would have to know who
          is connecting to them, log it, and log what IP address the are assigned
          ongoing.”

          And once again bobmail demonstrates he has no clue that what he said is akin to “We’ll make like China, but succeed”. Because, presumably, you imagine all we need to do is stop the unicorn-riding leprechaun wearing the big “VPN”-sign from heading down the ‘series of tubes’?

          Do we need to tell you just why it’s not really viable to even try to perform a dpi analysis on every household using broadband in the US?

          I have a hint for you, bobmail. Next time, instead of stating what would “likely change” start off by making the small sanity check called “Do I have a single clue what I’m talking about”?

          Because if not, like now, what happens is that everyone who DOES know begins to point and laugh because your assumption requires technology even star fleet doesn’t possess.

          “You can be pretty certain that most corporate networks already log each and every entry to their network via VPN.”

          Not the way you appear to think, since that would leave most companies open to privacy intrusion suits you wouldn’t believe. Nor do they, in fact, have the capability. Most corporations do this instead: They only allow connections to the intranet coming from their own VPN provider to begin with.

          That type of whitelisting isn’t possible when what you deal with is a regular consumer.

          Again, stop with the “certain” when all you have is “wishful personal opinion without basis in fact”.

          “The only ones not logging are those who are trying to hide something.”

          Like cost calculations, customer data, account specifications? Yes indeed, EVERY company on this planet quite rightly has a lot to hide from casual or determined snoopers. This is why most companies use VPN’s.

          For similar reasons, this is why most ordinary people use VPN’s as well if they’re smart.

          “I am guessing that your company doesn’t allow people to VPN into your network and then download copyright material from torrents, right?”

          Difference being that accessing a high-security domain within a corporate intranet is not remotely comparable to a consumer home access. The difference being a few magnitudes in cost.

          “I am betting your company logs every access, right?”

          The same way an ISP does. Do you need a refresher course in how that works and why this type of log is useless other as an “after-the-fact” sanity check?

          “Why do you think there is a conflict here?”

          Because in the real world where computer science is about what can and can not be done in practice, the conflict you can not observe from standing in La-la land is an understood fact.

          Hey, China has the cheat sheet in hand and has had that for ten years. Why not go there and tell them you solved all their problems in five minutes worth of wild assumption, Baghdad Bob.

          What’s next? Demonstrating the anti-tank capability of a bag of waterlogged jelly beans?

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Actually, the problem Iran has is simple. They have no businesses to speak of and thus there is little problem if their banking system goes offline as soon as the government pulls a plug or blocks too wide an ip range.

      Better example is China. In their latest iteration they managed to block a few VPN’s. Along with, apparently, the Apple app store.

      Case in point, no nation with an online industry can afford to block VPN’s. Too expensive, too unsafe, and the impact on legitimate industry is terrible if any attempt of enforcement is made.

  • Kronos

    No surprise that Iran made VPNs illegal. It is a blatant attack on civil rights, which Iran is known for. I would expect eventually for something similar to happen in the US.

    • HelpfulMan

      Iran government has ftp access to all the warez they want.

    • Front

      Yes, Iran govt. runs a public FTP for downloads,
      what happened to VPNs is just a political measure
      to protect their rulers and nothing else.

      Ironically, people in USA don’t suffer censorship
      and most of them don’t want to learn, read or hear
      how their government really is and prefer to negate all,
      calling to others: Antis, leftists, etc.

      • Guest

        you can justify their actions all you want – it does not change the facts

        • Front

          Where is the justification? What have I justified?
          Iran has censorship and VPNs are forbidden now,
          all of that was said by me, being that you don’t like
          that country or maybe only that government,
          you aren’t able to see that and just disagree with me.

          If I said that’s a political measure and nothing else,
          I’m not stating it’s a good one,
          it’s obvious what they’re trying to protect
          and that’s not for their own people’s sake.

          Any Iranian, who’s not concerned about politics,
          at least can access to many files for free
          and don’t need to pay for extra services,
          just to download a simple “program”.

          I could point out more ironies about this subject,
          but you probably will feel offended later.

        • Guest

          *sigh*
          don’t get all upset when you justify censorship now..
          but if you need more clearance, here you have it: I was referring to your words “to protect their rulers and nothing else” – you don’t know that, you can’t possibly know that.

    • MadAsASnake

      England tried that just after the printing press came out. We got this horrible thing called copyright out of it.

  • bobmail

    In a related story, it was reported that water is wet.

    Slow news day?

    • Guest

      Nah, just anticipating the news over the big Prenda showdown that’s just happened. Get ready to shit in your pants, bobmail. Your heroes of copyright have taken a massive blow.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Shouldn’t be for you. After all, weren’t you the one predicting the six strikes would cause only a few downloaders to go for VPN’s?

      Take a look at the graph above. A five-fold increase in search hits for “VPN” does not constitute a “few” in any way, shape or form.

      Now, as I recall the debate, every pirate knew we’d see such numbers. You were the only one demonstrating a crystal ball with cracks in it.

      • bobmail

        Actually, the numbers show only a few. It will go lower as people realize how much of a pain it is to actually have to pay every month for more internet access, and how difficult it is to keep spending time to find way to pay for it anonymously.

        We won’t even mention all the people who will be pissed off by the slow service, and things like that. It’s sort of like seed boxes, they generally don’t last because people don’t want to keep paying to entertain others.

        Don’t let the short term numbers make you think anything other than short term. Also, understand, that graph isn’t people signing up, it’s people looking. How many of them are going to actually be willing to pay for the VPN each month (or each year) rather than just saying “fuck it” and giving up pirating everything under the sun just for the hell of it?

        • Dattebayo

          Why don’t you make a voting poll, bob.

          a. fuck it! I give up

          b. it’s worth it, I’ll pay.

          c. pff, there’s another way.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “It will go lower as people realize how much of a pain it is to actually
          have to pay every month for more internet access, and how difficult it
          is to keep spending time to find way to pay for it anonymously.”

          Well, if Sweden is any indication of that, from what we’ve seen since 2006 is the opposite of what you claim.

          To begin with, paying anonymously for VPN access is a five-minute operation so it’s actually faster than it is for me to pay the invoice for my regular subscription.

          So i’m guessing that once again you’re simply letting your wishful thinking lead you into the land of “clueless”.

          “How many of them are going to actually be willing to pay for the VPN each month (or each year)…”

          Judging from Sweden, France, and every other place where draconian surveillance – or any surveilance regime at all – have been introduced, actual VPN subscriptions surge by an entire order of magnitude or more. The data from Sweden closely corresponds with the estimated amount of filesharers.

          So, judging from established history, ALL of them, more or less?

          We’ll just peg your little comment as yet one more attempt made by Baghdad Bob to explain how the US tanks will all go away tomorrow because the sand in Iraq is too hot for tender caucasian feet.

  • http://www.wraithtdk.com Matthew Young

    I love that the people who still think that every download is a lost sale think they’re educating people.

    • 7th_Guest

      More like, what they seem to be educating people on is that being reported by a rightsholder as a copyright infringer under the CAS is equivalent to being immediately presumed guilty and now having one less leg to stand on should this arbitrarily occur again in the future. The following lesson involves finding out there’s no point trying to disprove such an allegation, however baseless and unsupported by any evidence it may be, even at one’s own expense, because the tribunal/panel process is completely extrajudicial and in the control of the accusers themselves. The last lesson anyone mad at all this is logically expected to learn will no doubt be either how fast they can look for an alternative ISP not involved in this racket, what the best VPN for their needs is or how best to organize a massive, country-wide federal litigation effort and finally strike this scheme down at its root.

      Let it never be said that Big Content’s associated lawyers aren’t good for anything – free civil action education for the masses!

  • Chap22

    Whatever you do dont use the VPN called “Private Internet Access”

    • Guest

      Why not?

      • Mint-o

        There are people complaining it is a scam,
        “they don’t give refunds as promised”,
        “their support is slow” and things like that.

        Do a research, read what they say
        and arrive at your own conclusion.

        • Jared Janhsen

          Their support isn’t that slow. I got an answer to a configuration question within 24 hours. They may not have a live helpdesk like some providers, but I don’t think they’re a scam in the least.

        • LilJohn

          can u please ask them about the 12 pedos they outed years ago and why they removed the articles or had them removed about their company? The articles said the fbi showed up at their data center and demanded servers. They gave them to the fbi and they then got 12 ppl arested… Private Internet Access (their name should be Totally Fucked Internet Access). Have them explain how they fixed this problem so that no logs are kept or whats the point in using them considering their track record?

        • PirateSoldier

          So what you’re saying is you don’t want pedos caught? Ridiculous.

        • Anyone

          even they deserve privacy

          VPN should not keep logs and should not sell anyone out, no matter what they did

        • PirateSoldier

          Privacy so they can continue molesting. I don’t think so

        • Anyone

          if online privacy for everyone means that a few sick fucks don’t get caught, so be it
          that is a small price to pay

        • PirateSoldier

          Or maybe the government(s) can concentrate on real crime instead of being paid off.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          People who say that the professional lives of Public Inquisitors and Prosecutors must be Constitutionally difficult, are not necessarily saying that certain heineous crimes musn’t be investigated thoroughly and punished with meaningful severity.

          What they’re saying is that the vast majority of 340 million American Citizens are fully innocent Human beings who can not live secure and peaceful lives without a maximum of their Constitutional Rights.

          These people understand that in the absence of Constitutional Rights, they will suffer the most heineous of all moral abominations inflicted by their own government.

        • 7th_Guest

          Think you’re confusing pedophiles with pederasts there, chief :/…

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          In other words, no one will have privacy.

          Let us know how you can tell the difference between a pedophile and a government dissident without compromising the privacy of everyones respective communication.

          Either everyone has privacy – or no one has. Because you can not monitor only the guilty ones. If you could, no need to snoop.

          I smell a copyright troll trying to mix CP into an anti-VPN rant again, because they’re the only ones using arguments that low.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Not the point. If a VPN provider is able to out pedos at all then that means they kept logs and monitored their customer’s traffic.

          Hence they are not a good VPN. And in the era of McCarthy they would have outed leftists with the same glee.

          If, indeed, Private Internet Access were the company getting caught with consumer data still on their servers.

        • Chilly8

          If the’d had VPNs in the McCarthy era, all the leftists would have have VPNs set up in places like the USSR, East Germany, or Communist Cuba, where there would have been no way to trace users, at least for the USA anyway.

    • dw

      yeah why not? give a reason please

    • PirateSoldier

      PIA have 1 of the best support systems on the net. Constantly updated servers and a cheap price make it the best

  • Whatever

    Aside from another very short statistic,which should be localized to US and have no other peaks over time, more money to defense efforts (VPN) directly translates into less money for other purposes. One might be on MAFIAA “products” (Blobsnail cannot call bias on statistics here).

    In future VPN providers will be asked to block certain sites. Then they will be asked to filter their infringing IP’s by using connection to MAFIAA henchmen who will decide which IP addresses get blocked live. After some more measures they finally will be monitoring everything. In a simulated democracy it just takes longer than Iran to make totalitarian laws.

  • guest

    they just go to end road ? or they still have more card to play ?

  • nya

    IMO, they are just letting everyone know just how much they love their money.

  • ralph

    “That is, until anonymous VPNs are outlawed, as they appear to have been in Iran last week.”

    Not very likely. Regardless, hackers always find a way to beat blockers.

    That’s the fun part.

    • Who

      outlawed don’t mean blocked. it means that IF you are caught using one you get arrested.

      • JohnGaspardo

        In Iran’s case it does mean blocked seeing as they shut down the ports for the ENITIRE COUNTRY and only allow authorized connections now …research before you masturbate on your keyboard…PLEASE

        • Who

          blocked means they just blocked it. outlawed means that NO one can use with out getting in to BIG trouble. but of course the rich are exempt. “…research before you masturbate on your keyboard…PLEASE”

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Are you channelling bobmail? You can not block “VPN ports”.

          Because for one thing, you’d be blocking https as well. You can use any port for a VPN connection. Even port 80.

          What Iran actually does is send thugs to the six or so ISP’s/telcos which exist in Iran and have them pull the plugs on the landline trunk whenever they suspect there may be riots.

      • ralph

        Correct. Outlawed is not the same as blocked. They are independent concepts. Still, I meant exactly what I said.

        As for being arrested, I am not worried about anonymous VPN service ever being outlawed in the USA. It will never happen because its use has been widespread for years in government, corporate America and now by private citizens. More importantly, trying to stop it would raise Constitutional issues immediately and the attempt at a ban would go absolutely nowhere. We’re screwed up here, but not that screwed up.

    • bobmail

      I don’t suspect you will see VPNs outlawed in the US, as they have plenty of uses that people looking for security for their legal activities (such as corporate networks) need and desire.

      However, I do think it more likely that within the next year or so, you will see legislation that will mandate ISPs to log users to a given IP, and that will include proxy, vpn, and other similar services. That would include any company that offers service to US users.

      I would further say that in doing so, there might also be something put in place to streamline the legal actions to obtain user data, where instead of the current repeating court fights over who may or may not get data (and when, and how), there would be something set in law that would define the requirements.

      My final guess is that this will be connected with a push by government (read handing out free money) to get ISPs to move to IPv6 in a major way.

      • Anyone

        I wonder how they will enforce that with non-US VPNs
        the ones that are required to log will simply not be used

        another industry driven away from the US

        • bobmail

          I think the “how” is similar to how the US dealt with the poker companies. If you offer service to the US customer, you must follow US law.

          More and more, I think this is how the internet is going to spin, as various counties and “unions” try to enforce their own laws on anything user by people in their jurisdiction – See European porn ban as an example.

        • icec0ld

          You can’t enforce civil laws like gambling regulations Internationally.The reason this happens is because each country has it’s own standards and regulations.

          This is why you as say a US citizen can go overseas and gamble in any casino. If every casino had to bow to every regulation of every country world wide, they would be forced to exclude anyone not a citizen of the country the casino is ran in.

          A policy like you suggest is unfeasible in the real world. It would be just as unfeasible to enforce it on the net, if not more due to the unregulated nature of net business.

          In short: US law =/= International law

        • bobmail

          I had a reply here, but it went away. Gambling is interesting, because it’s one area where the US has been very successful. They have changed the behavior of every online gambling site, no matter where it operates – none of them dare to offer service to US customers, because they know the risks are higher than the rewards.

          US citizens are relatively free to follow the laws of a country they are in when they travel. However, they cannot use an out of country casino while in the US, it’s illegal (to transfer the money, effectively).

          US law isn’t international law, but international businesses wanting to offer services in the US are subject to their laws. It’s the same as EU privacy directives applying to companies who are not based in the EU. Odd how that works, isn’t it?

        • icec0ld

          Is every online casino part of the US? Or is it US citizens visiting them? I won’t comment further since I don’t know enough or care to know any further about the subject since you’ve strayed from it being an allegory example to straight up factual semantics about operating an online casino making further discussion here pointless.

          Btw, US citizens, aren’t “free to follow the laws”. They are actually required to follow them as part of terms of entry into the country or be subject to the penalties for not.

        • 7th_Guest

          This “European porn ban” being an EU parliament upcoming vote on whether or not to endorse the conclusions of a report that might become part of a proposal for an EU-wide law that has almost no chance of passing mostly because of civil freedoms concerns? That kind of example? Okay then.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “… If you offer service to the US customer, you must follow US law.”

          Go tell that to US citizens logging onto foreign servers, then. Now, since very few offshore VPN’s ever offer services to “US citizens”, what you are actually claiming is that you’ll cripple US ability to transfer small monetary sums abroad.

          And, of course, you just moved yet one more IT sector offshore.

          “More and more, I think this is how the internet is going to spin, as various counties and “unions” try to enforce their own laws on anything user by people in their jurisdiction – See European porn ban as an
          example.”

          Pardon me for laughing here. At length.

          You mean similar to the way Saddam banned US troops from crossing the border?

          Now, assuming the EU commission indeed decides to implement such a ban, I think you’ll find that merely hastens the collapse of that house of cards. That ban is actually from ’97 and worked no better back then.

      • Guest

        “I don’t suspect you will see VPNs outlawed in the US”

        You’ve been saying it’s only a matter of time before VPNs are outlawed, but now you’re backpeddling? What the fuck happened, bob?

        “you will see legislation that will mandate ISPs to log users to a given IP”

        What ISP in the US doesn’t keep user logs? To my knowledge they all do. What difference would legislation make?

        ” there might also be something put in place to streamline the legal actions to obtain user data

        It’s already streamlined. The MAFIAA subpoenas an ISP, the ISP roles over. The only ISPs to defend their users are Sonic net and, shit, like one other?

        So if you think legislation for keeping user logs and making it easy for the MAFIAA to obtain IP addresses is a silver bullet for fighting piracy, you’re massively wrong. Because we already pretty much have all that and it does dick.

        I think the “how” is similar to how the US dealt with the poker companies.”

        You mean try to regulate them and fail?

        • bobmail

          “You’ve been saying it’s only a matter of time before VPNs are outlawed, but now you’re backpeddling? What the fuck happened, bob?”

          VPNs as you know it would be a thing of the past. The only part of a VPN that is attractive to people like you is the anonymous factor, and the ability to bypass content restrictions by country. Anonymous VPN will very likely be outlawed.

          “What ISP in the US doesn’t keep user logs?”

          ISPs who do not charge for bandwidth generally don’t have to keep user logs beyond the very short term. Why bother? I think what you will see is a mandate that any service provider who gives internet access (ISP, VPN, proxy, etc) would be required to be able to identify where the user was connected from (modem / termination point), and associate that connection with a given user account.

          “It’s already streamlined. The MAFIAA subpoenas an ISP, the ISP roles over. The only ISPs to defend their users are Sonic net and, shit, like one other?”

          Actually there have been many cases of ISPs not cooperating, or dragging their heels, or claiming they cannot do the volume requested. There is no roll over, and in part because (shockingly) they have no standardized logging system that would allow for this information to be easily available.

          “So if you think legislation for keeping user logs and making it easy for the MAFIAA to obtain IP addresses is a silver bullet for fighting piracy, you’re massively wrong.”

          Nope, and notice I didn’t say that. The point is only to start to create some sense of responsibility. Right now people think they are anonymous, in part because the discovery to file a lawsuit is too hard to do. It’s not just about piracy, it’s about slander, libel, and all that other stuff. People post all sorts of shit on chat boards without considering any liability, because they are “anonymous”. The amount of effort to track an anonymous poster down, to even guess where to file the lawsuit to make such discovery is so hard, that most people can’t be arsed.

          If you knew that your downloads of gay porn were tracked, and that the gay porn company was going to come knocking on your door with a summons the next day, then your gay porn downloading habits would change. Moving to a VPN wouldn’t help, because they would have a log of you and your original IP from your ISP, which in turn would have your account.

          Suddenly… eeek! You would have to be responsible for your actions online, just like in real life. Wow, would that suck, eh?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Anonymous VPN will very likely be outlawed.”

          Since that requires abolishing the first amendment as well as the UN articles, why don’t we call that “unlikely”.

          However, you are quite on the money on what would be necessary – and this is why we pirates tend to highlight the understanding that copyright can not coexist with free speech.

          Secondly, not even China and Iran have a way of prohibiting or enforcing a ban on anonymous VPN.

          Or are you saying not only will we BE China tomorrow, we will also have more draconian enforcement?

          And that, bobmail, is why you remind us all of Baghdad Bob. Your assumption is either that of an ignorant clown who did not know what he was saying or of an inhumane fascist who did.

          I swear, every time you show a new glimpse of Anon’s la-la land the view gets murkier.

        • bobmail

          “Since that requires abolishing the first amendment as well as the UN articles, why don’t we call that “unlikely”.”

          Umm, wow. Where do I start with something like this? Let’s go with this:

          The first amendment doesn’t grant you absolutely unlimited, unregulated speech at all times. While the content of your speech cannot be so easily regulated (limited by libel and other similar laws), the methods of said speech can be controlled. If you don’t think so, try setting up an FM radio station in your town without a license. Good luck on that. It’s regulated!

          Copyright exists fine with free speech, it’s you who are making the mistake of thinking that someone else’s creation is yours to exploit as you see fit, without restriction. it’s one of those areas where the 1st amendment stops – Ask your hero Lessig about that, all of his 1st amendment arguments have been laughed so far out of court he doesn’t even want to mention it any more.

          I had a thought about this while eating, and I think this is pretty key here. What you are saying is correct if you think that any law puts an absolute stop to anything. It does not. The US has strict drug laws, but plenty of drug addicts. There are strict laws against processing money for online gambling, but it happens too. However, the laws against these things make it harder, or less desirable, or too high of a risk for most people to bother with.

          What you are trying to do (invoking China, example) is to try to create an absolute where none exists. If US based ISPs have to log, and VPNs in the US have to log, and non-compliant VPNs are made liable for infringement or other illegal activities done through their service without logging, then you will find that most people will be compliant with the law. Not everyone, but the majority.

          The minority? Well, there will always be drug dealers, there will always be gang members, there will always be the mafia and there will always be people who will pirate, no matter what the cost or effort required to do it. It’s nearly impossible to write laws to stop people who will ignore them.

          There is no constitutional right to VPN, in the same manner that you are not constitutionally granted the right to a phone or to set up your own radio station. Don’t confuse the technology with the actual speech, that is the best way to find yourself sitting with Lessig licking your 1st amendment wounds.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “…try setting up an FM radio station in your town without a license. Good luck on that. It’s regulated!”

          And the example has zip and nada to do with setting up a VPN. Indeed, every precedent there swings the other way. Neither moving the goal posts, the irrelevant diatribe on top, or the straw man gets you out of the fact that your argument fails.

          “Copyright exists fine with free speech, it’s you who are making the mistake…”

          You want us to quote chapter and verse where the European Court of Human Rights begs to differ with your statement? Copyright is in fundamental conflict with free speech, that’s not even up for debate.

          “However, the laws against these things make it harder, or less desirable, or too high of a risk for most people to bother with.”

          As in every kid who wants weed can still buy it at his local school? The drug war generally being considered “lost”? The way California opened up ‘medical’ marijuana to the point where anyone bothering to fill in the necessary paperwork can go to a big dope-smoking party at will?

          Yea, you know it’s a pity you didn’t extend your metaphor further and realize the example you placed means your argument says the law will be completely useless.

          “If US based ISPs have to log, and VPNs in the US have to log…”

          …then that will still be completely useless to stop, hinder or deter filesharing. You are still looking for magic bullets where none exist. We have cheat sheets in hand from the rest of the world and guess what? Established history dares to second-guess your opinion and theory on this by 180 degrees.

          “… there will always be the mafia and there will always be people who will pirate,”

          The same 20% there is now, you mean. Yes, they will be there because even after handing out million-dollar sentences and making filesharing harsher than assault, we already know you aren’t getting rid of these. You reached and surpassed the point of diminishing returns with napster.

          “There is no constitutional right to VPN…”

          Actually there is. prohibiting a VPN means exactly this and only this: Forbidding anyone to communicate in such a way that no others can listen.

          That impacts both the 1st and the 4th amendment.

          Or are you mentally rewriting the constitution to exempt certain modes of communication?

      • Chilly8

        Such a law could not be enforced on a service entirely hosted outside the United States

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        “However, I do think it more likely that within the next year or so, you will see legislation that will mandate ISPs to log users to a given IP…”

        The EU data retention directive performs this same operation already. For many reasons this has proven far harder sailing in the US since the constitution there actually has legal weight. To begin with, any law ordering such wholesale supervision is an explicit violation of the 4th amendment.

        “I would further say that in doing so, there might also be something put in place to streamline the legal actions to obtain user data…

        You mean the mass ip suits of discovery now being tossed out as unreliable and unmerited by judges should carry weight of law? Assuredly if you bribe enough congressmen, they may try. It won’t work.

        “My final guess is that this will be connected with a push by government (read handing out free money) to get ISPs to move to IPv6 in a major way.”

        …and you actually think this will help…
        Something tells me you’ll be privvy to yet more exclusive lessons in how technological progress in communications technology NEVER aids in information control.

        • bobmail

          ” To begin with, any law ordering such wholesale supervision is an explicit violation of the 4th amendment.”

          Not at all. For purposes of billing, ISPs should know what user is connected to their network, and should be able to prove that (for purposes of billing) at any given time.

          Logging a user on your network to an assigned IP (not logging their activities, just USER MAC address IP) would not in any way violate the 4th amendment, as it’s a normal thing to do as part of the business operations. It is in fact reasonable for any internet user to assume that their logon to their ISP network (or any other password protected network) would generally be noted. It would be a basic part of proving connectivity. Many ISPs also log usage, not destinations but amount of data. Having this standardized across the industry and made mandatory would be (for the most part) in the consumers best interest as well.

          “You mean the mass ip suits of discovery now being tossed out as unreliable and unmerited by judges should carry weight of law?”

          No, I think that anyone with half a brain can see that these repeated processes of discovery, each with different outcomes, each taking tons of money, effort, and court time are not helping anyone to get a fair trial. ISPs should not be in the business of hiding or shielding their customers from legal action, in the same manner that the phone companies are not in the business of shielding their customers from a court order or summons. ISPs should be pretty much on par with (as an example) a cell phone company, which can tell you if a phone was active on their network, can tell you what calls it made, etc – all on the basic of a police warrant or a court order. They don’t spend time in court arguing to protect their clients identity. They look at the court order and hand it over. The internet is only communications, and should not be any different in front of a court of law. If ISPs want to enjoy a safe harbor, they shouldn’t be able to shield their customers in court.

          “Something tells me you’ll be privvy to yet more exclusive lessons in how technological progress in communications technology NEVER aids in information control”

          Oh please. Point me to your research paper, your thesis on this one. They you can explain to me why a cell phone company can track your calls, track you general location (near specific in many cases) and hand all of that information to law enforcement or to a court under court order without a blink.

          Nobody is looking for “information control”, where exactly do you get that shit from?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Not at all. For purposes of billing, ISPs should know what user is
          connected to their network, and should be able to prove that (for
          purposes of billing) at any given time.”

          Ah, you think an ISP – a private company – is in fact the government. Right. Your argument already derailed as irrelevant.

          “Logging a user on your network to an assigned IP (not logging their activities, just USER MAC address IP) would not in any way violate the 4th amendment”

          …OK, bobmail, we’ve warned you about speaking out on technology before. To begin with, you just abolished routing. Do you even realize what that means?

          Didn’t think so. Meanwhile I leave you to ponder how it can be that no ISP today can ever get hold of the MAC adress of their customers unless each and every interface is directly hooked to the cable.

          That wordwall of yours just boils down to yet one more case of “I, Baghdad Bob, have no fucking clue whereof I speak but will now tell you all how a bag of jellybeans is certain proof against an M1 Abrams”.

          “They don’t spend time in court arguing to protect their clients identity…”

          I think you’ll find that any telco receiving a court order to hand over the identities and locations of THOUSANDS of customers based on nothing but circumstantial hearsay will contest that court order.

          And have in the past. That’s a fairly dishonest argument which you keep peddling – moving the goal posts in order to skip the “proportionality” bit completely.

          “Oh please. Point me to your research paper, your thesis on this one…”

          That would be the famous Microsoft study performed in 2005 on the effects of filesharing in the digital age. So far, every prediction made has come to pass.

          So yes, you will experience – as you have for the last five years – how every attempt at curbing piracy dead-ends against technological progress. Which is glaringly obvious to every IT expert and network tech out there.

          “They you can explain to me why a cell phone company can track your calls, track you general location (near specific in many cases) and hand all of that information to law enforcement or to a court under court order without a blink.”

          Not the point, is it? Not when all you need to do is have someone carry your phone on a train ride while you rob the bank and give yourself the perfect alibi.

          That said, there is still the issue that no one would ever expect that tracking or registry to be handed over at the mere behest of a 3rd-party with nothing other than hearsay to go on that you’ve copied a media file.

          There is also the issue, of course, that there is a mile of difference between a telco colecting mast positioning – and an ISP against which the average consumer can guard himself to 100%.

          Uh, yeah…did you have ANY argument which wasn’t an irrelevant straw man? No? Fine then.

      • bobbutts

        Just one technical point. With any vpn server software you can have the user connect to one public IP and then assign them a different public ip, it can even be on a different range entirely. In that case even if the ISP saves both of the addresses they see, there is no association with the user’s public vpn ip.

        • bobmail

          Yes, but in the case of mandatory logging, the VPN would be required to log the user’s original IP, the incoming IP he connected to (to reach the VPN) and the outgoing IP that he was using at the time (forward facing). Again, with IPv6, there would be no question of ISPs having to share an IP address, because they would literally have millions. They could probably assign an outgoing IP per customer and never have to repeat.

          The idea of mandatory logging would be to make sure that the association is made, which continues to respect the anonymous nature of the end user’s communication (free speech), but at the same time not providing for the user to hide either – it would be neutral.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          As usual, bobmail, you are making wild-arsed assumptions you must have lifted from a sci-fi novel somewhere.

          Because:

          1) That’s not how a VPN can reasonably work. It defeats the entire purpose.

          2) All that would do if mandated is to move yet more business away from the US.

          So once again you are predicting a magic bullet for which reality has no backing.

  • anonymous

    said it before and i’ll say it again. this is totally expected but i’ll bet you it wont be long before the VPN and Proxie sites are seriously targeted fror closure. and regardless of what else those sites are used for and what harm to other industries will be done over the closures, the USA entertainment industries are not going to give a flyin’ fuck!!!!

    • john doe

      Exactly.

      And that’s why running for VPNs in a time like this is the same as hiding in the closet while the house is on fire.

      VPNs will never be the answer in the long term.

      • Utriah

        You have a valid argument, so how about some articles on what the “next generation” of P2P will be like? Will it include encryption? Will it solve this current “torrent” issue (the issue is not with the torrent system which works fine for what it is, but rather the transparency of it.) or isn’t there any?

        Why not focus on making a “better” protocol?

        • http://news.mensactivism.org/ Jhon Deo

          They people already are in the process of doing that. Google I2P and Retroshare. These services aren’t perfect… yet. But it’s just a matter of time until the next generation of sharing technologies come onto the scene in response to media company attacks. I’m betting on some form of anonymous and encrypted darknet technology.

  • Who

    well no shit

  • Andrew me

    I have no doubt that there are millions of people worldwide looking for a way to monetize privacy for everyone, and from those millions i am sure someone is going to come up with a system that is free and works very well. All you have to do really is convert your ip address to something else that is searchable on the internet. Once that is done it should be reasonably easy to point software to the new id you have.

    The one problem for the governments around the world is that this creates an environment where real enemies to the state can easily use systems developed by others to hide their activities.

    If they were being honest and realistic about the fight against terrorism they would be encouraging everyone to use the weakest system or no system at all so that those that were encrypting their connection were highlighted. Now that so many are using these systems there is so much traffic to sift through that those doing things that affect the security of the country can easily be lost in the noise.

    I say for the safety of the country torrenting should be legalized, then only a minority would ever need to hide their identity.

    • Who

      FYI copyright infringement has NOTHING to do with terrorism.

      if they really were looking for any true type of terrorist activity and not considering file sharing terrorism and actually treating copyright infringement in the correct manner then no one would have to hide in the 1st place.

      BTW torrenting isn’t illegal.

      • Anyone

        if everything is moving towards a darknet then you can no longer distinguish between torrenting and other activities, it will all just be noise

        • Who

          all darknet is, is privet sharing nothing more. been around for years and is nothing new. its just now more people are wanting to share content and you cant really do it openly or the copyright holders money brain will turn on and logic thinking goes off and they start to sue people. that’s Y Ive said the sharing of ANY content should have stayed underground.

  • Matthew Welch

    And a note to the MAFIAA, that’s 20 bucks every 3 months I am spending that could have been going to movies, games, etc. instead. 80 bucks a year lost, good job.

  • Caspin

    VPN = slow as fuck. By the way, if a studio makes 50% of a film’s profits, that means they pocket $500 Million on a film like the Hobbit, and then another $500 Million in DVD and Blu-ray, and then Another $1Billion on merchandise. But they are suffering, so don’t share with each other, tiny humans.

    http://www.thewrap.com/movies/blog-post/five-new-ways-hollywood-making-money-46881

    • Anyone

      only free VPN are slow

      you get what you pay for

      • Caspin

        I payed for Btguard. Slow as fuck. Which one are you using that is fast?

        • Anyone

          no VPN, I use a seedbox

        • Caspin

          Ah

        • Anon

          VPN’s are limited by what you get / pay for. Mine is not limited by data used ( because I pay for service ) but the very nature of a VPN does mean it is going to be slower. Also it depends on where your VPN is. Most people think that any old VPN will do. That is not the case. Get a real one. Preferrably a non-USA based company. Sound strange? Think about this. American companies are beholden to American law. Meaning if they get a sealed FBI letter demanding info in the name of national security, unless they want a lawsuit ( which they may or may not win, but only on the gag order part, not the handing over of the info ) they are going to comply. A non-US based company has 0 incentive to hand over info. This is most noticably effective in a non-extradition state. Do some research. Here is a start. http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-that-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2013-edition-130302/

        • McDerkins

          BtGuard IS slow. I have 30mbit connection, their “fast” speed is 1.5mbit. It’s a joke, plus they don’t allow port forwarding. I am back to my regular VPN. Oh and stay away from HideMyAss and VyprVPN as well, they log the fuck out of everything.

    • William Jones

      I regularly get 1.2-1.5 mbs through my VPN.

      • 7th_Guest

        Still, 1.5 millibits isn’t very much, if we’re perfectly honest.

        Use your damn keys to better make your point, that’s what they’re there for, bub.

        • William Jones

          You must be a joy at cocktail parties…

      • McDerkins

        That sucks tbh. My connection is 30mbit, with VPN i get 25mbit.

        • William Jones

          Who’s your VPN provider? I need to switch.

    • tj

      My connection is slower through my VPN, but I still 6-8mbs download and 1.5-2 up. Again you get what you pay for.

  • 8g8g8gp

    “A clear invasion of privacy”. well said, six strikes = legalized spying.

    and of course the CIA, the FBI & the IRS never collaborate against American citizens (HA-HA).

    • gguoli

      Yes legalized spying, why else give everyone SIX strikes instead of just THREE? “The better to see you with” replied the Big Bad Wolf. Six excuses to keep the same person (internet connection) under surveillance. They are so good and generous to us poor misled citizens.

  • dlovin123

    Which proxy is the fastest? I got btguard but it only goes to 400 kbps.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

      btguard sucks. Even Ipredator is better, and they’re more trustworthy.

  • Debaser

    There are alternatives to VPNs. Check out https://bitfetch.com and http://swarmstream.org

    • http://twitter.com/nossuntlegio Sperare Nos

      these are fee-per-download services… anything FREE as in beer?

      • www

        often times u find that paying is better

        • joexxx

          No. This leaves a money trail. Unless you pay cash, it’s too easy to track.

        • Anyone

          bitcoin

        • joexxx

          Maybe… bitcoin is traceable because all transactions are recorded. There are some ways to, potentially, get around it.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          ….all transactions that start nowhere and go nowhere?……

        • joexxx

          If you actually look at the information in the wallet and consider that there are only few bitcoin exchanges worth dealing with, there is a lot more info than you think at first that you can obtain.

          Sort of like – if you know the gender, birth date, and zipcode of a person, you can identify that person in 85% of the cases without knowing anything else.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          Sometimes if support receives a pm asking to pay with Bitcoin the answer is, “Sure! Here’s our wallet address!”

      • SupAnon

        Cloudload.com -> free beta period right now.

  • James A

    I’ve found cloudload very useful to stay anonymous

    • Fools Gold

      How can i get an account?

      • h3x

        Scroll to the bottom of http://www.cloudload.com and put your email in for a beta invitation

        • 20yearsago

          thanks for the suggestion. I just applied for a beta- sounds like a great service

    • SupAnon

      +1 for cloudload, if you can get an account… I had to wait like a week.

    • lele

      I got an answer in 2 seconds … amazing, thankyou cloud load

  • sfiga

    do proxies work if all you want to hide is torrent traffic? and if yes any free?

  • Eddie

    6 strikes….So I assume everyone who uses Youtube or sites like Veehd will get 6 strikes because I do not see the difference between those sites and Piratebay. Copyrighted movies? Yes. Copyrighted music? Yes, at least for Youtube which has just about every song ever recorded. I’ve even seen Youtube videos where somone posted a link to download a copyrighted game. But instead they are going after Piratebay and torrent sites.

    • Who

      that just shows you how many brains they have. the MPAA/RIAA have almost ZERO intelligence.

      Ive talked to rich people before and I know others that have worked for them and YES I myself have worked for the rich and YEP they think money is everything and that IT can buy anything. but they don’t seem to think they need to buy an education. you ask one of them a question and there like WTF are you talking about. then you say we need to BUY and THEN they know what you are talking about.

      • Guest

        you know.. in our modern world people came up with a new religion – money. no more they are just a mere means to existence, they are object of worship

        • Who

          so you are saying that this is a religious confrontation?
          I hope you know that NO religion is allowed to VIOLATE ANY ones rights.

    • Chilly8

      Not for VIEWING YouTube videos. The law current does not make VIEWING a YouTube video, copyrighted or not illegal, but those that POST videos could come under six strikes.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/albie.fraser.1 Albie Fraser

    Some VPN providers see the scheme as a clear invasion of privacy and are encouraging people to protect themselves.Ha Ha,all they want is your money,there is nothing that can hide your IP,it does not exist.

    • joexxx

      Hmm… as long as you think so…

    • UraPhake

      “…there is nothing that can hide your IP,it does not exist.”

      Bwaaa-haaaaa-ha!

      That’s what the mafIAA want people to believe. But you go right on believing that yourself if you like.

    • Guest

      “there is nothing that can hide your IP”

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

      Holy shit. See, this is why pro-copyrighters are powerless to stop us. They’re technologically clueless as fuck.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      And next up for the technological illiterate is what?

      Oh wait, it was just a troll deciding to fish for bait.

  • PirateSoldier

    I’m currently with PIA and can honestly say it’s the best decision I’ve made regarding an online purchase.

  • Luc

    This is why you won’t see a’ la carte tv anytime soon.

    http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2013-01-31-your-cable-bills-going-up-again-but-forget-a-la-carte-pricing/

    They are too greedy, period and that’s why people want ” to share”.

    Would you really go out of your way if you were offered the content you want at a fair price ?

    • joexxx

      Haven’t dealt with cable/ traditional TV for 15+ years. Useless service as far as I’m concerned.

  • ponypwnz

    except, everyone in the know has been using some sort of vpn to download their torrents for a while now…..hamachi (i knows there’s better) / peerblock will protect a vast majority of you guys from the man.

  • sharms

    I only use bittorrent for the occasional indie song, but I still got a VPN. Pretty harmless, but I have a real problem with corporations sniffing my every move. It’s the only way to go.

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  • The_Strawbear

    Don’t paint VPN providers as Robin Hood’s they’re just making as much money off this as they can, which is fine. But it’s doubtful that there’s any moral side to them.

    Everyone’s after what they can get.

    • joexxx

      Hoods, not Hood’s.
      You should address your concern to MPAA/ RIAA.
      Isn’t it a good thing that everybody is after what they can get? Why is that immoral?

    • Guest

      Nobody’s painting VPNs providers as robbing from the rich and giving to the poor. That doesn’t even make sense. Do you know who Robin Hood is?

      Obviously there is a moral side to them. They could choose to make money selling crack or stealing or scamming, but instead they choose to make money by providing a service that helps people.

      Whether you like it or not, pirates and the services they employ have the moral high-ground versus the copyright monopoly.

  • The_Strawbear

    So how long until VPNs can only be used by business and have to be registered and their traffic checkable by a new govt agency?

    They’ll be the next thing to go.

    • Chilly8

      Then you just ignore the law and continue your VPN use WITHOUT a license. If you have the money, you could put a server in a server farm offshor and have your own private VPN, and IGNORE any licensing requirements.

    • joexxx

      They should try it… see how that will work out.

    • Guest

      How long until The_Strawbear realizes that the US government tried to flat out ban encryption on the internet during the 90′s, and it didn’t work because math cannot be banned?

      Keep holding on to your pipedream of government regulated VPNs, Failbear.

      • joexxx

        Well, everything on the net is encrypted. It’s not like I’m sending actual text right now. It’s all encrypted into 0s and 1s. The question is, who has the key to translate 0s and 1s back into text such that they can read what I wrote?

  • Who

    Y is there talk about Iran all of a sudden?

    • UraPhake

      Because it’s their turn.

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  • joexxx

    So, basically, people are going to be spending money on VPNs instead of MPAA/ RIAA content. The recording industry stupidity never ceases!

  • JordanKratz

    You lose MAFIAA ! And I await a more General Boycott with Petitions against your Corrupt Industry.I hate your Industry and so look forward to seeing you die the Death you have deserved.And I have hated you for Decades.I hated you in the 1970′s as an original punk rocker.My two reasons for signing onto the punk bandwagon in summer 1976 was Political and a hate of Big Studios.
    I am now 57 years old and guess what………….I still hate our US Gov and I still hate Big Studios.

    Want free punk rock……..all are welcome to what they want and freely share it as sharing is caring.
    http://www.bigmeathammer.com

    Big Meat Hammer being my Maine Band still playing some shows after I formed it 22 years ago now.

    • bobmail

      They have been waiting for years. They actually hope you freeloaders will stop pirating their stuff out of spite, so that everyone else can’t find it easily.

      Do the world a favor, stop pirating the products from that corrupt industry! Please! Encourage your friends!

      • Anyone

        not buying their stuff is enough

        some of the Hollywood movies are actually watchable, no need to deprive ourselves from that if it is so easily available for free

        • bobmail

          Nah, pirating it doesn’t help, because you continue to build their cult, and you do nothing to encourage the alternatives. If you want an alternative, you have to support it.

      • icec0ld

        2 words: Make me.

      • Guest

        “They actually hope you freeloaders will stop pirating their stuff out of spite, so that everyone else can’t find it easily.”

        So they haven’t learned by now that spite just drives us to pirate their stuff harder?

        Jesus christ, the MAFIAA is like a special ed class that never goes out of session.

        • Guest

          Oh yeah, and as for that “freeloaders” remark here’s the obligatory link that proves you’re full of shit:

          http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=pirates+%22buy+more%22

        • bobmail

          We already disproved that last week, because clearly killing Mega also increased movie sales… so you can’t have it both ways.

          Sorry Mary, you failed.

        • joexxx

          No it didn’t.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          You mean the MPAA-commisioned study?

          “disproved” about as much as the studies commissoned by Big Tobacco disproved the hypothesis that smoking causes cancer.

          At which point in time, along comes someone like you and defends said study tooth and claw. Pretty sad.

        • Guest

          I didn’t buy any movie, since I don’t suport MAFIAA for years.

          I also didn’t download any movie, since they all suck.

  • Synergy

    So, As a result of the 6 strikes, I have gotten BTguard, the only thing im confused about though is my speed has dramatically dropped. So much so that I dont want to use it anymore. Is that a sacrifice I have to make to keep it anonymous?

    • ralph

      The problem with BTguard is that it won’t accept incoming connections, for legal reasons(it’s in Canada). Even stronger, I don’t think BTguard will let you upload pieces of a file for the same reason.

      You might not think so, but this will often screw your download speed a lot. Lot’s of times a good peer wants to call you back but can’t because his connection request bounces off BTguard. Also, when the seed/peer ratio is low peers will do tit-for-tat on pieces and then you are screwed.

      Get a different VPN…look at TorrentFreak’s list posted a few days ago.

      • Synergy

        thanks. I figured BTguard was the best since it was listed first on torrentfreaks list.

        • ralph

          In fairness to TF and BTguard it is probably very secure. It just might not be as fast as others because it is not taking full advantage of the bittorrent protocol

  • sketch

    ahhh very good my sheeeple go forth and obtain thy VPN…….

  • AuronX

    Hahaha!

    I had a good, hearty laugh as soon as I was finished reading -just- the headline.

    “Criticism aside, the increased demand in anonymizer services does not mean that the six-strikes scheme has failed.”

    I’m sure individuals will topple the newest method introduced… but, it still amazes me how eager the MPAA and RIAA are in nickel and dime-ing everything.

  • SCP-682

    There are ways to spoof ip adresses, if I’m not mistaken. One doesn’t need a VPN if they know how to do such things. As for why people want privacy, it doesn’t mean they did anything bad, they might just want to be left alone. Think about it, if you’re being followed by a pest, you’d want to get away from them. This is where privacy comes in. This allows you to sneak away from a pesky stalker or even slam your front door in their face.

    However, if the right to privacy is thrown away, you couldn’t easily get away from an obsessed stalker, nor are you allowed to kill them for just being pests. See the problem here with getting rid of privacy? Or maybe the entertainment industry higher up officials need some stalkers harassing them to get the point.

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  • unexpected

    monney floating from place to place.

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  • Chilly8

    While I don’t see VPNs totally outlawed, I do see Congress possible outlawing one common use for VPNs, bypassing geoblocking. After it made the news big time last year about people using VPNs to circumvent geoblocking for BBC and Eurovision Olympic streams, you can bet there will be a push to make it a crime to circumvent geoblocking. I am amazed that Congress has not already introduced a bill to that effect.

  • Luc

    A lot of people underestimate the influence and power that the US government has all over the world. It’s is ironic how some people really think they can hide behind a VPN service. You can hide as long as they let you ! If someone goes to the VPN owner point a gun to his head and threat his family rest assured that your logs will be turned back on in no time. It looks like many of you forget how not long ago the USA was able to have the Swiss Banks open their books to tell them about Americans hiding money overseas and you really think they have no power with a VPN service ? Not to mention that the government might already have technology that is far superior than anyone else. If the FBI, CIA or some major agency wants to get you they will get you. It’s that simple.

    Hopefully they won’t do it as more people will realize that Hollywood and the major studios are just greedy. We are paying $100s each month for 199 channels we don’t want because they refuse, absolutely refuse to give you a la carte the 9 – 15 channels you really want to watch. Why ? Because if they did give you only what you want to watch it wouldn’t cost you more than $20 x month. By giving you more channels they make a lot more money with the ton of ads they bombard you with.

    In my modest opinion sharing stuff is also human. It’s always hard to make people go against their nature. If I buy a movie and give it away without making any money is that really stealing ? If it is go back to what was written above and let me buy the movie at a cheap price.

    On a good note the ” Six Strikes ” law is not as bad as it seems. Instead of watching more bs, lately it is all I get from Hollywood, it will force me to get off the couch and do something useful or more rewarding than watching other people great life.

    The main reason I am considering getting a VPN is privacy whatever they can get me or not I still value and want my privacy because if this is going to continue I start worrying about how free we really are.

    If anyone has had a great experience with a VPN provider please share it.

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  • arkteker22

    This new six strikes scheme is wrong…I definately got a VPN just because these selfless money-hungry jerks are able to determine themselves whether or not content is infringing, then drag them through countless legal battles whether they are innocent or not.

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