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So You Code File-Sharing Apps? Get Smart With Your Marketing

With the annihilation of Grokster in the middle of the last decade and the recent destruction and humiliation of LimeWire, one might have thought that all prospective file-sharing developers would be proceeding with caution. Not so. In fact, some are painting big targets on their chests with “Sue Me!” right in the middle. Coding geniuses, it’s time to get smart.

At the start of the millennium and despite the woes suffered by Napster, there was a huge enthusiasm in the developer community to turn out file-sharing applications. During the years that followed dozens of clients appeared and while some prevailed, many of them fell by the wayside, victims of an over-crowded market.

Others, such as Kazaa, eDonkey, iMesh and Bearshare, enjoyed great success but were slaughtered and/or reanimated into friendly forms by the international recording industry. But it was the 2005 United States Supreme Court decision in MGM Studios v Grokster which drew an important line in the sand.

That hugely complicated case underlined an important message – don’t create a product and promote it for infringing uses.

As we’ve seen from the recent dismantling of LimeWire, that lesson still eludes some and almost unbelievably it’s still being repeated today. What am I talking about? File-sharing client marketing.

A few weeks ago TorrentFreak learned that Cydia, the alternative market place for iPhone apps, were taking a harsh line on file-sharing software. We aren’t talking about an Apple-style blanket-ban on anything with the word ‘torrent’ in the title, but what appears to be an analysis by Saurik, Cydia’s owner, of what might be deemed illegal.

We know of at least two developers who have had their quite decent apps kicked out by Cydia, a victim of their apparent “one strike and you’re out” policy. But it appears that the apps were excluded not due to their functionality, but because of marketing missteps.

Paraphrasing one developer’s marketing blurb, the suggestion was that the app was great, not only for legal downloads but for “not so legal” downloads too. It’s just a few words but they clearly make all the difference.

Another coder, who made a suite of what look like perfectly nice apps for accessing various torrent sites and managing downloads, threw in some beautiful screen shots of the software in action. Whether those TV show download listings in among the nondescript stuff were intentional or not is impossible to say. Nevertheless, the outcome wasn’t good.

As is often the case, TorrentFreak recently received an email from a company promoting a new Mac torrent client, which came with a nice little promotional video. The video demo showed the shiny new client in action – downloading a discography of a very famous mainstream label singer. This, from a company who has clearly invested quite a lot of cash into their products. Why take this kind of chance?

Then just a couple of weeks ago an informative news article was published which mentioned the growing use of mobile apps. In it a respectable developer admitted that his app was mainly used for downloading TV shows. If that app goes huge in the future, what kind of damage would a confession like that cause? Following in the steps of LimeWire is great for a while but it ultimately ends in years of sleepless nights and $100m+ in damages.

There are some brilliant minds out there, coding some awesome applications and while some of them will wither and die, others will go on to greatness and bring the creator the satisfaction dreamed about during those long nights with just a screen, a bucket of coffee and a table lamp for company.

OK, not all software creators or indeed site operators care about or even need to abide by US laws due to their mindset or geographic location. They have chosen their path, are comfortable with it, and are doing what they do best. They are aware that their troubles will grow in parallel with their successes and they will morph, outmaneuver, hide or give the finger to their adversaries – that is their prerogative.

But for those who are positively out of the shadows and actively courting the US and increasingly the European markets, behaving today in a way in which one wouldn’t mind being judged by tomorrow might prove incredibly valuable. And make no mistake, that judgment standard is getting tougher every year.

That said, the good news for software devs is that maintaining respectability (for want of a better word) doesn’t devalue a product in any way, indeed it adds value. And it costs absolutely nothing, just a pause for thought.

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  • I am a sausage not a hotdog

    The good old days of grokster back in dial -up.Sad i mean torrent is not illegal it’s the industries stupidity for not understanding and learning the strategies.Free marketing.Well hopefully one day the will adapt.Projects like the tunnel movie etc. and now the tunnel movie has made it to #4 on the list for best movies.Adapt or don’t make media.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      Grr it’s taking to long to post something not right on your end torrentfreak.Sorry for double post.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      Grr it’s taking to long to post something not right on your end torrentfreak.Sorry for double post.

    • Anonymous

      enigmax, you’re basically saying that pirates should hide themselves or at least shouldn’t code applications specifically for piracy. That defeats our whole movement. For the Copyright Trolls to see we are an unstoppable force, we have to stay in their face, not hide behind the curtains.

      • Whoopu

        Don’t be an idiot!

        Download their shit but do it smart, that’s the message! Great article!

      • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

        I agree, there is nothing wrong with file-SHARING and they need to get that threw their thick heads, even if they are trying to censor the internet for the elite…

    • AnonBuddhist

      it’s at #1 in Australia imdb.com

      • I am a sausage not a hotdog

        Awesome:)

        • Snnl

          I am a vagina not a pussy

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  • I am a sausage not a hotdog

    Wow the good old days of grokster.Even back then in the dial up days grokster was awesome.Now it’s ridiculous the word torrent is not a bad word and torrents aren’t illegal nor is file -sharing alltogether many artist used it like nine inch nails.But the industry is just too stupid to learn the strategies of free marketing.They would rather spend millions.
    Projects like the tunnel movie which has currently made it to #4 on the list of overall most popular Horror movie.Their a lead in the right direction.I don’t understand why the industries are so stupid .As far as killing apps go wake up and see that file-sharing is not your enemy and pirates are not your enemy aswell.

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  • John

    eDonkey (emule &tons of clients still connect to ed2k network & kad) + Overnet still works on clients such as revconnect dc and many others, Bearshare network still works also if u get a non mafiaa’d client. Try bearshare lite :-) .

    Maybe showing ur dl tv & movies is better than showing ur dl “10yr child kiddy fuker pthc ” ?

    • steviebhoy

      bearshare sux .ive always hated it ,, download things that are not complete or virused ,bittorrents is the only way i go now & im very happy with it .bearshare u dl an album with songs missing ect ,i dont know any 1 who uses it now

      • I am a sausage not a hotdog

        In the days when i was using windows bear share gave me tons of Trojans,Destroyed my computer and yet the riaa sponsors bear share.

        • Josh C

          The evil were drawn to the most evil client ^^

        • http://profiles.google.com/helvitson Chris Helvitson

          And you wonder why RIAA sponsored it……

  • John

    eDonkey (emule &tons of clients still connect to ed2k network & kad) + Overnet still works on clients such as revconnect dc and many others, Bearshare network still works also if u get a non mafiaa’d client. Try bearshare lite :-) .

    Maybe showing ur dl tv & movies is better than showing ur dl “10yr child kiddy fuker pthc ” ?

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  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    All the devs need to do is officially launch their apps at the US State Department coz they’re actively seeking and promoting methods to breach firewalls-by-Country for reason that it breaches the basic Human Right to freedom of speech.

    Whether or not the US Supreme Court, Department for Homeland Security or their stupid ICE wants to object is up to them – but the State Dept will welcome them with open arms.

  • Sharing TV Shows

    Are people being harassed for sharing TV shows and series ?
    Is Disney ABC the only Producer of TV shows on record against the right to share personal copies ?

  • http://torrentbully.com/ Rob

    When demonstrating an APP please think about what you are displaying. Come on now. Use your heads. We do not need to see it in action with actual files. Think people.

    • Or

      Or just show yourself torrenting a Linux distro.

  • http://torrentbully.com/ Rob

    When demonstrating an APP please think about what you are displaying. Come on now. Use your heads. We do not need to see it in action with actual files. Think people.

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  • Anon

    Pirates often like to compare their mission with the French revolution, or overcoming racism or the taxation without representation that compelled the American revolution.

    But there is a key and very telling difference. In every historical case the unfairly oppressed rose up with pride and confrontational conviction in a very real, very public way that inspired others to join them on the path to victory.

    But pirates talk about remaining hidden. They demonstrate no courage using technology to remain secretive while they copy their entertainment files, even hacking others wifi, framing innocent people while tacitly embracing the criminal mentality.

    Says a lot.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      There are no righteous people including yourself.I guess i can copyright farting make a copyright and sue everyone because it has a distinct sound.

    • Clever Sharing

      Your romantic view of history does not reflect the truth.
      They were not stupid either.
      Peel back the many layers of manipulation of history to uncover battles of censorship and multiple deception throughout the ages.
      Where is your courage when shilling for Mafiaa ?

    • Anonymous

      Erm… did the French Resistance wander the streets in World War 2 with “Fuck the Nazis” T-shirts on?

      Until there is a critical mass of the public willing to rise up and overthrow the respective government, freedom fighters are quite wise to keep their heads down and work in secrecy.

      Faced with the seemingly never ending pot of money the Mafiaa are willing to throw at this “war against file-sharers”, it is apparent the adversary is both powerful and dangerous and not one to tackle in a “Charge of the Light Brigade” fashion.

      Anyways, good article enigmax ;)

      • Anon

        The path to your success is public, lawful change and you know it, but you clearly have no stomach for that.

        If your goal is government overthrow best to stay hidden and live with the results of your own seamy public relations. You define yourselves through cowardly action. Could government or industry define you any clearer? So fitting.

      • Anon

        The path to your success is public, lawful change and you know it, but you clearly have no stomach for that.

        If your goal is government overthrow best to stay hidden and live with the results of your own seamy public relations. You define yourselves through cowardly action. Could government or industry define you any clearer? So fitting.

        • Clever Sharing

          … Said Anonymous Coward.

        • Anonymous

          “The path to your success is public, lawful change and you know it”

          Ultimately that is true, but wars are not won by “going over the top” anymore. Battles of stealth are common place nowadays, an unseen enemy is harder to stop.

          This problem does need a public and legal resolution but until there are enough politically powerful individuals and organizations fighting for file-sharers, “stealth tactics” is the most logical and sustainable course of action.

          “You define yourselves through cowardly action”

          The Nazis probably said the same of the French Resistance…

        • Tiger97a

          well with the bit torrent world doubling by 2015 i think that speaks for its self and soon as one or two of your paid politicians get caught for taking a bribe and they all get under the light then we will see what rock all crawl under.

    • Ers

      Ok, I hate piracy too, but you don’t really have your facts straight. Come on man, the French Resistance hid and used covert ops. They didn’t announce their intentions publicly.

      I’m sorry, but you’re just wrong. Pirates are anonymous because of the nature of the medium they use to communicate and because piracy is still illegal, not because of any unique moral flaws.

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  • Anonymous

    I have always said if you ever need to do anything unlawful then NEVER record yourself doing it, NEVER make notes, COVER your ass while doing it and NEVER tell anyone.

    Fail to do so and you are STUPID and waiting to be CAUGHT and PUNISHED.

    Those that do it all wrong I find as FUNNY as those rare individuals who run over themselves while driving their own car.

    Most importantly ALWAYS keep aware of the law when IGNORANCE is your GREATEST ENEMY.

  • Predator

    Suing others corporations is one thing. Attacking the citizen is another. These corporate idiots have signed their own death warrant.

    All these talks about the law what is legal and what is not make me laugh.

    What law? The law has been destroyed by the corporate parasites who took over our government and trampled our constitution.

    The only law now is the law of the strongest. Let’s kill them all!

    Targets Status

    Sony Destruction in progress
    BOA. Pending.
    Vivendi Universal. Pending.
    . . . . . . . . .

    You see the picture of the future now.

    Stay away from the stocks of the 7 major corporations of entertainment and the big banks unless you want to lose your shirt.

    • Sony Sucks

      I’ve boycotted sony for many years ever since they start making defective products

    • Ers

      Meh. Skies look clear to me.

  • Ace

    A fantastic article. Marketing and recontextualisation of the technology will be the very thing that changes everything around.

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  • Dxloat

    If the US govt. has taught the world anything it is “might makes right”. We need to rise up and gut the corupt politicions and their bloodlines. Unlike many countries we are allowed to own guns, we should use them.

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  • Foff

    I would like to see any evidence that shutting down all these various file sharing clients have had any effect on revenues of the recording industry.

    I would say none. The sales of cd’s is history. Who buys cd’s anymore? Kids have so many distractions now days that music is not that important. If my kids want a a track they download the mp3 of one of many free mp3 sites. They don’t even use the itunes card to buy songs only an occasional app. They also use Youtube for listening to music. My kids hardly listen to radio anymore.

    Of course any file sharing app that promotes itself showing illegal downloads will be shot down. Promote it as a good way to share home movies and linux distro’s. Apple and it’s ecosystem won’t be king of the hill forever. File sharing in one form or another is likely to continue. For over a hundred years ships have based themselves where laws and taxes are the most favorable In the same way file sharing developers need to do the same and incorporate where it is the most favorable and where copyright orgs would have the hardest time attacking.

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