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Sony Music Boss: Censored YouTube Videos Cost Us Millions

Sony Music’s CEO of international business said in a recent interview that the Internet is a blessing for the music industry. Nevertheless, there are still problems that have to be overcome, such as restrictive copyright enforcement by music rights collecting agencies. The Sony boss says that YouTube revenue running into the millions is being lost because German rights group GEMA’s policies prevent artist videos from being shown online in the country.

bergerFor years the music industry has blamed Internet piracy for all their troubles.

Slowly, however, the record labels are starting to realize that the Internet is the future and it will ultimately do more good than harm.

One of the people who embraces this positive view is Edgar Berger, Sony Music’s CEO of international business. In a recent interview he stressed the importance of the Internet, while noting that the increase in Internet sales almost makes up for the decline in physical sales.

“There is absolutely nothing to complain about. The Internet is a great stroke of luck for the music industry, or better: the Internet is a blessing for us,” Berger said.

“You can not blame the Internet for harmful excesses. On the contrary. It has brought us tremendous new opportunities,” he added.

But with these new opportunities come new rivals from an unexpected corner. According to the Sony boss, music rights collecting agencies are now preventing innovation in certain countries.

In Germany, for example, most YouTube videos by Sony artists are blocked due to the music rights group GEMA, and not because Sony wants it that way. When asked why Sony’s music is not available on YouTube in Germany, Berger responded bitterly.

“It’s not because of us. You must direct this question to the German collecting agency GEMA, they licensed the copyright very restrictively.”

It turns out that the price GEMA want for views is too high for YouTube, and as a result the videos of some of the world’s most famous artists are blocked.


Lady Gaga’s YouTube channel in Germany

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According to Berger, GEMA’s restrictive regime is not helping the artists or the music labels. In fact, he says the music industry is losing “millions in revenue”. Additionally, it’s one of the prime reasons why the digital music business is so far behind in Germany.

This is not the first time Berger has lashed out against GEMA’s practices. According to the Sony boss it’s time for the music rights group to embrace the digital age.

“We want to see streaming services like Vevo and Spotify in the German market. [These platforms] must not be blocked by GEMA any longer,” he said earlier. “Artists and music companies are losing sales in the millions.”

So here we have the boss of one of the largest music labels blaming another group for their repressive copyright enforcement. It’s the world upside down, but a promising change from Sony’s side.

This is not the first time GEMA has negatively entered the news this year. Last month the popular music streaming service Grooveshark decided to shut down voluntarily due to the “unreasonably high” licensing costs imposed by the music rights group.

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  • Guest

    not like we didnt told them from the start …. now mister big boss think about all the millions more you lost by trying to chase every freaking one of us …. YOU FAILED

    at least some light is starting to appears in your eyes

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      They’ll still have to repeal all the copyright laws they got past before I’ll buy from them again.

      • Caladol1

        you are right on that, many people don’t buy because we do not want to support any type of censorship, as we see time and time again, and to tell the truth I don’t know if they will be able to make it up ever…..

    • guest

      You’re an idiot: “lost by trying to chase every freaking one of us…” That just says, “I’m an idiot who illegally obtains my movies, music, tv shows, etc.” You’re a fucking dumbass.

      • Lee

        There are many known cases of them “chasing” people who never downloaded anything. So “chasing every one of us” includes a lot of mistakenly accused people.

        No matter how often you repeat a lie, it is still a lie.

      • Caladol1

        “I’m an idiot who illegally obtains my movies, music, tv shows, etc.”

        reply:
        do you buy a car , and don’t try it out?
        you support stuff you know nothing about and you call us “fucking dumbass”.

        my friend who is the dumbass?

      • Jan

        I don’t know where you are but in my country, downloading of multimedia files for myself is completely and totally legal.

        Indeed, who is the dumbass now?

    • nargg

      Still, it’s funny that Sony is the single most largest contributor to the RIAA and MPAA. Sounds like he’s being a hypocrit.

      • Lee

        No, look back at what he said. He has no problem with what they are doing, just the price point.

        In other words, still evil.

    • Djb

      sony is still a bunch of parasites, the get taxes on blank media but still bitch about burning cd’s… they want their bread buttered on both sides 2 faced fucks!!

  • Sesew

    Business men and their imaginary statistics…

    • Iarl Ewing

      Did you know that according to studies, more than 108% of statistics are false?

      • Mr. Putin

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    • sabacat

      But I SO wish my boss had gone to the same school as them! I’m just a lowly little social worker, but by their calculations, I should be making at least $42.3 million by now!

  • Anonymous

    Sony is no saint.
    They’re very much part of the MPAA and RIAA i.e. they’re funded by Sony.

    • Anonymous

      Sony I will still be Boycotting You !!!

      • http://tiny.cc/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

        +1
        Until they cease…of the trolling of sharers & hardware hackers (aka..people today)

        Sony I will still be Boycotting You !!!

        • anonymous

          doesnt stories like this just make you wanna go out and pirate some sony stuff…… bbs :)

      • OutrageMcMurderspree

        Yeah he can fuck himself.
        GEOHOt and lack of linux anyone?
        So this PR hungry whore now knows what it’s like to have some prick in a suit say what he can and can’t have?
        Lousy.Fucking Lousy.

        And they support the MPAA RIAA!
        It’s like Hitler just bought shares in Goldman Sachs, then complains about jews and global finances.

        Edgar Berger, you are the face of an evil, ruthless and relentless entity.
        Don’t fucking complain to us.
        Steer your fucking ship man!

        • guest

          This is in reply to the person above you, anonymous.

          You’re a fucking idiot.

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  • Anonymous

    I really don’t want to agree with Sony, I really don’t

    and it is not a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” scenario since Sony is part of RIAA

    so yeah, I’m not sure if that is a good thing

  • Internet Entity

    One could dream this would be the start of a change from Sony. But alas, probably not

    • GermanGuest

      Hey, I’d love to believe that myself, but it’s about as much change as EA had in mind, when promising to make more creative games. Bottomline, it’s bull, probably marketing jive to sell an additional unit or two by improving one’s public image.

    • http://www.performanceinsiders.com/ageless-male.html Ageless Male

      Why not? Maybe they are taking it slowly! lol

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  • Mollemand

    Sony you have done too much. Too many rootkits, too many PS3 SWAT-team crack downs, for me to forget. Please die.

    • Caladol1

      yea die far away with RIAA and MPAA.
      ps: try not to stink up the place…. you have done enough stink already

  • Florenz Villegas

    By the way, the videos aren’t blocked by the GEMA, they didn’t even asked for the blocking in many cases. YouTube blocks them, and says the video “may” contain copyrighted material. Even videos with CC protected material were blocked, so this is not the GEMA itself. It’s SOPA/ACTA/IPRED in action. Sony should be thrilled to see, how well these initiatives are working, right?

    • Anonymous

      it’s the GEMA being a douche to youtube that forced youtube’s hand.

      if they didn’t block everything GEMA would either ask for too much money from them or sue them.

      this is what the whole internet would look like with SOPA/PIPA/ACTA

      • Florenz Villegas

        Like I wrote, exactly my point. Censoring yourself ’cause you’re afraid of the consequences, financially or legally. That’s what it is all about. Of course you have to pay if you earn money over other peoples work. But is has also to be reasonable, I think.

        • Arzak

          The german G(EM)A thinks, that the payoff to ask for low streaming fees doesn’t result in high amount of sales somewhere else. They simply don’t do that bet “on the future”, they go the safe route with high fees. The real problem isn’t really the high fees they ask, the problem is their inflexibility in taking single songs out of “representation”. If someone wants to collect Royalities for TVshows and radio, but doesn’t for Online, they don’t allow that sort of “single song selection”. Either everything off online – or nothing.

          They call it bad “cherrypicking”, because their whole concept is to collect lots of fees and then redistribute it with an NON PUBLIC(!) system of internal calculations. If you would be allowed to pick, you would select the non famous songs to be off their catalog, and the famous songs in the system, maximizing your revenue. (Which is, what everybody does in the capitalistic system). But that means, that they would have more payouts and thus, lowering their potential fees. This is so absurd, because they are an half-goverment department and shouldn’t care about maximizing their fees! This is insanity.

          If you want Radio, TV and other Royalities collected in Germany, you need to be with the GA. Thats their strength to push those ridiculous fees and rules into the market. They don’t have any competition. Everybody is waiting for the EU-Commission to open up the market; meaning that you could ask the English, French or Spanish GA to collect your money. They allow more “cherry picking” – and the already have much cheaper deals with Youtube regarding videos. GA is obviously fighting this potential competition to the teeth.

          The labels have an option, even a tough one: they can tell everybody that their whole catalog is off representation by the GA regarding to offline deals. Meaning, that they need to make new deals with every webradio, every webshop, every streaming service. But this should be done in less then 4 weeks. They have the lawyers. Then Youtube could stream without hassle, never to be annoyed by the GA again.

    • Anonymous

      No this is GEMA in action. Or more specifically the braindead EU system of private companies collecting culture taxes from everybody in their respective country. Basically, the government assigns a segment of culture (eg. music records, music in general except records, literature etc.) to some private company which then collects money from everybody who streams or broadcasts or makes live performance of something in their assigned segment of culture. So if you stream or broadcast, you either pay these bastards and then you can stream/broadcast whatever you want, or you don’t pay anything, in which case you either need a ton of paperwork from each copyright holder saying that it’s OK for you to stream/broadcast their stuff without paying these bastards, or you’re breaking the law. Copyright holders’ consent with streaming alone is not enough because the law says you need consent from the tax collector, not copyright holder.

      Luckily for my little country, our culture tax collectors have no rights over streaming over the Internet and our Pirate Party works hard to make it stay that way.

  • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

    An executives of this rank are very cautious about what they are saying, thus “it’s time for the music rights group to embrace the digital age” translates to “GEMA should be dismantled and banned”.

    • Anonymous

      followed by BREIN, RIAA, SABAM, etc.

      • Zdfvzz

        Agreed. but riddle me this: If Sony wants it, the artists want it and the customers want it. Then how can Gema stop this? On behalf of who do they speak?

        • Anonymous

          The problem is, overall, Sony doesn’t want it. This guy seems like the exception to the general consensus of Sony execs otherwise why haven’t Sony threatened to leave GEMA?

        • Arzak

          If the leave, they will not get the revenue from TV, Radio and “public music” play. Lots of small shops pay some couple $100 per year that they can play radio music – depending how many customers your have. Some fitness chains stopped to do that and changed over to CC music because it costs them up to $5000 a year just to play radios and CDs.

          Since the labels still need radioplay and TV revenues in this day and age, they can’t leave them. Most of the contracts run for at least 3 years with different end dates, meaning it would take 1-4 years to get everybody off the representation. It would take years to ask all radio stations to pay to YOU instead to THEM. It would create a legal and financial mess for years.

          Labels aren’t “in the business” to ask every shop owner for money because he heard five tracks 21x times last month off their label roster. This would never work. The GEMA knows that. Thats the reason they can play hardball.

          Nobody is questioning them. Besides the EU-Commission. But they go slow, very slow.

        • Anonymous

          to cgimusic: Because Sony CAN’T leave GEMA. GEMA has this power by law over all music in Germany. To the best of my knowledge, the closest thing Sony can do to “leaving” is flooding GEMA with paperwork listing every single Internet streaming provider and broadcaster Sony has signed a contract with saying that these organizations are exempt from GEMA’s power as far as Sony’s music portfolio is concerned.

  • Al Capone

    Welcome to reality, Mr. $ony Music MAFIAA Boss – have a seat, stay a while.

  • Anonymous

    boo hoo – i am so sad that Sony lost millions of dollars trying to censor the internet. [/sarcasm]

    They could have taken that wasted money and dumped it into decent security for the PSN instead.

  • Root

    We should not forget that Sony was the first company to put out copy-protected CDs — including the famous Sony Rootkit.

    • http://tiny.cc/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      it’s the internet…. 1 person remembers….. no one forgets ; )

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    funny how the people “PROTECTING” the artits and companies and “collecting” ROYALITES for them, are also screwing them out of money by forcing their content down lol

  • Thumper DC
  • Anonymous

    when you’re shooting yourself in the foot, you cant blame anyone else, but as soon as someone else is doing the same as you, it’s the most dastardly crime going! i wonder how many artists have lost money because of Sony? do you think they were worried about that? yeah, i reckon!

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  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    There’s no such thing as Youtube censorship by Country!
    Simply use MAFIAAFire Slash Unblocker!
    http://mafiaafire.com/download.php
    Problem solved :)

    As for the Sony CEO – he’s a freakin’ hypocrite who will steal your baby from the cot and CANNOT be trusted until Sony shows the World they support filesharing for no cash, no profit and no tangible gain by ordinary people worldwide.

    Will he go that far? Why not ask him Ernesto?
    Because until they fully embrace OUR freedoms and rights, they wont be trusted to promote OUR culture in a fair and reasonable manner that doesn’t lock-down our innovators’ creations simply for the sake of greed.

    Viva la digital revolution!
    Viva Torrentfreak!

    • Anonymous

      that addon seems to have been removed

    • Jhae

      You mean optional bankruptcy, and you go back to watch the squeaky sounds of cats@Youtube for musical experience? And calling people innovators who simply give you a link to a file is quite a stretch. We could do that since 20 years.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        I trust you received a D-minus for English interpretation in 8th Grade, and never improved upon that.

        • Jhae

          And was hoping you find something to say about my ugly uncle. Nevertheless: keep insisting you are part of an revolution to “free” people to be the consumer bitches of US cartels. Thats the root problem, you know it, and you simply don’t care. Why should you? Its comfy in one of those Matrix-slime bags. The machines won on you, didn’t they?

    • Mwhahaha

      I don’t think it’s ever going to be all free legally for all.
      I think you’re over reaching there Rob.

      People still gotta get paid for this stuff who don’t directly profit from say, tours or merch or other alt income streams for artists. Producers, session musicians, equipment places, boys who make tea, ladies who answer phones and courier drugs etc :) Won’t *someone* think of the drug dealers?!

      I’m not sure how stopping people making *some* money from their tunes is helping them create more music.

      After all if they then don’t or can’t tour much, they’ll have to go work in an office, giving them less time to make these wonderful things we all adore. Tho you’d still be able to work 9-5 and make an album quicker (and better than) the Stone Roses follow up release…

      So what is realistic and fair?
      A shorter copyright (5-10 years),
      much less corporate topslicing,
      more rights for artists & writers,
      a fairer (worldwide) online price (esp for old music),
      the utter extinction of DRM,
      the legal right to have songs on multiple devices.

      Also he doesn’t look like a baby stealer, at most he looks a bit smarmy.

      Good links tho!

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Plenty of “professional” artistes, actors and musicians have a “regular job”. For example, the lead singer of World famous hard-rock band Iron Maiden is a commercial airline pilot http://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?news_id=2000241&c=setreg&region=2

        The MAFIAA.org are running scared because a major part of their monopoly used to lie in control over distribution of content, but the internet has swept that away and people are now doing it voluntarily for free, whereas we used to pay the MAFIAA as part of the rip-off price of the music recording or the ticket price for your cinema seat.

        The internet simply removed that part of their pricing structure and their control, so they’re MAD AS HELL and want those profits and control back. That’s why they go crying like little kids to their Daddies in Congress and bribe them to support breathtakingly awful legislation that destroys progress, innovation and our fundamental Human Rights to privacy and freedom to share our culture as we see fit.

        So the industry isn’t protecting artistes, they’re simply refusing to accept and adapt to the new reality.

        Once these dinosaurs are destroyed, artistes will be free to make the cash they should be getting without their MAFIAA pimp stealing a huge cut of their efforts.

        Get it now?

        • Konstant

          I wonder where I can download and pay this Airline Pilot directly on his website? Or any other “major” artist? If Internet changed everything, shouldn’t they all FLEE the cartel as fast as they can get an $1 website with a flash-mp3 player and an a paypal button?

          I give SHIT what the US cartels want or what they produce, but its bizarre that everybody is claiming the world has changed – but it seems the ARTISTS themselves didn’t get it. They still run into the US cartels arms whenever they want to make money.

          Why are you constantly dissing the cartel, instead of the artists? They seem not “to get it”. As long they use the cartels, the cartels survive. They don’t care, because their phones are ringing and cash is flowing. You are barking on the wrong tree. Paid shingle?

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          @ Konstant
          There’s plenty of promising new artistes emerging and using the internet to get their music heard whilst by-passing the CopyWrong Cartel of MAFIAA.org

          After all, the biggest enemy of the prospective artist isn’t piracy or even the RIAA, it’s anonymity – and the internet is curing that ailment as well as surgically removing the malignant cancer of the “content industry”.

          See also the Kickstarter.com project to which I’ve already donated cash
          http://www.kickstarter.com/discover

          Welcome to the New Enlightenment my friend. Join us. It’ll be fun and a breath of fresh air for all of us.

        • nutter

          sorry, but kickstarter is still an US webbsite…
          all US webbsites are under blocking…

  • Anonymous

    That’s the pot calling the kettle black.
    What GEMA does is what members of the RIAA (and MPAA) did for years. If Sony really finds that abusive, let them quit RIAA and start lobbying for fair copyright laws instead.
    They won’t? Let them choke on their own greed, and the greed of those who walk the same path.

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  • Anonymous

    So this is why all the videos with music from Sony Music Group are blocked in Germany? And not just Germany, everywhere from Finland to Bulgaria, at least 20 countries. I get the feeling this guy is lying through his teeth.

    • Anonymous

      I’m sure those countries have similar silly acronyms (that Sony is of course part of) doing the same crap as GEMA etc.

      they all need to die

      • GermanGuest

        Agreed, especially since it’s Sony who owns a large portion of music rights in Germany, having bought the Bertelsmann Music Group years ago (aka Sony BMG). Sony is definitely part of GEMA. Pure hypocrisy.

        • Arzak

          Its hypocrisy, that they publicly dis a system that gives them so much money. They won’t leave because it would cost them a fortune AND they don’t want to do their job. They CAN leave. But this would cause quite a chaos in the music industry there.

    • GermanGuest

      And you’d be right. Total hypocrite, blaming this mysterious organisation GEMA, Sony most likely belongs to or has influence on, having bought German label BMG.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000076205200 Anonymous

    install the “stealthy” firefox addon – and: problem solved.

    • me

      Not solved for SONY, because those with circumventing plugins are a tiny minority of YouTube users…

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  • Lalal

    Other EU,NA countries also block SOME videos . why?

    • http://twitter.com/cannesorbust Michael Leahy

      It’s actually YouTube removing videos with music represented by German and Belgian societies (maybe others). I think it’s called strong-arming. The UK was bullied into submission.

      Before anyone gets too excited, the end result would be the same for users: free music. What’s at stake is some sort of viable revenue from YouTube (major, indies and self-released).

      I don’t know where the discussions are now. In limbo in Germany, apparently.

  • Alyssa Blindy

    It’s interesting, but I don’t know what it means for the future of music. It might not mean anything for the future of music.

  • GermanGuest

    While I partially agree with what he’s saying, this is oh so typical from American media blaming Germans for all wrongs in this world. I am German and while I’m not defending GEMA in any way (they are indeed assholes), they’re nothing other than the German equivalent of the American MPAA/RIAA. Also, with German media conglomerate Bertelsmann having sold their music rights years ago (to Sony btw, aka SBMG), who, if not the American music labels control what GEMA charges?!

    In short, this is bullshit! The blame game, scapegoating this mysterious organisation, the GEMA, with whom noone is involved, of course. Well, before YouTube displayed the GEMA message, they’d tell us who in fact hadn’t licensed the songs in Germany, ie. Warner, Universal and *big surprise* SONY! So, just cut the crap, Herr Berger!

    Btw, Proxies are very helpful in this issue. So, many of us do indeed get to see the videos we want, but before you see coin, you might want to alter your policies a bit, MAFIAA!

  • Al Capone

    “…but before you see coin, you might want to alter your policies a bit, MAFIAA!”

    What, and give up their monopoly?! How do you expect obsolete middlemen to screw artists, drive Ferraris and snort coke with that attitude?! Hookers aren’t cheap! Just ask any MAFIAA corporate gangster if you doubt me… ;-)

  • Gargamel

    Sorry but I have a computer and an internet connection Sony. I don’t need you.

  • Anonymous

    Well this one is about as clear as mud. To begin with we know Sony is part of the RIAA and so they will be boycotted in BLACK MARCH.

    Then to give credit where credit due then this was a rather productive response by the Sony CEO. We also know that many artists and labels do embrace the Internet, even under the RIAA, but it is the RIAA which gives us unhelpful crap like SOPA.

    As to GEMA then we already know what bastards they are. Doing my VPN into Germany does offer a rather horrific sight with all the denied services.

    Well they have clearly overpriced themselves out of the market. I am sure Sony under the RIAA can fix that problem but this is not a path to enlightenment.

    • Anonymous

      I have been following all of these events pretty closely, but this is the first time I’ve heard about Black March. Now I see that there is a lot of information about it on the internet. I had the idea about boycotting the MAFIAA myself but didn’t know how to reach enough people to make it effective. It seems that not enough people know about this event. How can we spread the word?

      • Anonymous

        You just need spread word to other forums you visit.

        Soon we hope hundreds of sites join in to both highlight BLACK MARCH and to steer people away from boycotted items and towards alternate items.

        BLACK MARCH is a great time to boycott the MPAA’s Hollywood and to promote Indie production, media and services like KickStarter, known Indie BT media, then sites like indiemoviesonline.com.

        All about moving millions of people away from SOPA supporters and the first real hammer blow to break up the MPAA’s monopoly. The RIAA wont be at all happy either.

  • Keroberos

    Boo Hoo, the restrictive copyright laws and licensing rights you helped create are now biting you in the ass, cry me a fracking river.

  • Jbekedam

    I don’t understand why GEMA can censor Sony’s content in Germany? Is it the result of some sort of distribution contract Sony has with them, or is it due to German law?

    • Anonymous

      Sony is part of GEMA

    • Arzak

      Gema collects Royalities via Radioplay and 10.000s of small shops (like bars and fitness studios) for the studios. If they leave, they would have to do it themselves. Its a empty gesture, because they know they bring em billions every year.

  • HollywoodAnna

    Why are these guys 15 years behind the rest if us?

  • Anonymous

    That guy just knows he is totally rocking it man, I mean like for real.
    Going-Anon.tk

    • Mwhahaha

      ffs stop posting links with no coherent description. I assume it’s junk.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, it was worth a look and consideration.

        • Anon

          is spam again

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  • Jack Murdock

    It puzzles me why my boss would be saying something like that @_@

    • Anonymous

      We are more surprised your boss opened the dungeon door and left a trail of raw meat for the Trolls to follow into the computer room.

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  • Mwhahaha

    I’m surprised that the rights can be *that* different in different countries to the point that german users don’t the same as everyone else in Europe.

    Surely this goes against the free market rules of the EU, which as Sky have found out with their EPL coverage, are pretty damn powerful.

    Also, if Sony don’t like it, can’t they uhm, use someone else or withdraw their licenses from the market place altogether for a while to stop these retards making any money.
    I find it weird that a company as large as Sony are stuck in a contract they don’t like.
    What’s with that?

    Wow sticking up for Sony.

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  • Rst101

    A Promising change eh Ernesto? Your having a laugh aren’t you?? The big media companies are about to take over the internet via censorship and you say they are having a change of heart. No son, they are buzzin they got their wish!!

    • Anonymous

      Many artists and some businesses under the MPAA and RIAA do not agree with them on points like SOPA. So pointing out alternate views weakens their unity.

      The fact that we cant trust Sony’s intentions is a seperate matter.

  • Anonymous

    Its really encouraging to read that at least here ppl arent foold by this nonsense and keeps in min that sonys scoreboard still have A LOT of points in the bad collumn, and this is a very minimal step in the right direction to compensate for that.

  • Keith

    The most hilarious part from my viewpoint, is the big companies are pulling out all the stops and hiring swathes of lawyers to stop people…

    seeing ADVERTS for their clients.

    A music video is a promotional video, designed to show off an artist or band. What on earth is the thinking behind stopping people seeing adverts?

    No-one I know hosts a party, then that afternoon, logs onto Youtube, and queues up six hours of music videos to play. They just play the music they own (or torrented mp3s, but even so, they’re not using Youtube videos.)

    What next, Coke taking me to Court for having a Coke poster in my bathroom? (I don’t, but you see what I’m saying)

  • Vevosucks

    People listening to bad music sponsored by Vevo. LOL

  • FreeKode

    Business people are always so stupid , their utopic thinking and greed destroy this world , they think are smart but reality shows to everyone theirs decissions ideads is bullshits – see how start actual crises in every domanis – financial , moral, social etc all start with stupid utopic ideas , statistics and fukin lot of greed

    Now is time for they to pay the price for their “smart utopic ideas”

    All of these will ending up with a great failure for they :D

    Congrats dumbs ! you will shout down and kill your dirty buisness becouse of your utopic decisions …ha ha ha

    How stupid you can be to belive if you restrict people to listen music to view movies clips etc to have acces at media informations in fact to cut off all free advertise for you , people will be happy with that and start to buy your products more and more and your sales will grow up ?

    Lol …whoaw fats trolls you are so “smart” ! keep going …

    Dream on fat dumbs …when you wake up will be too late becouse your media business will be shout down …dream on…

  • chameleon87

    Too bad it’s not just Sony who’s getting blocked. In fact, I’m having a hard time watching ANYTHING with any form of music in it. Music videos, stuff with music in the background (no matter how faint it is), .. heck… even some 30sec-1min promo clips get blocked.

    A while back I’ve set up a virtual machine with Teamviewer and VNC installed just to show some guys I know online what it’s like to use Youtube from within Germany.. and how restricted everythng was. Sometimes, even whole channels get blocked, with no explanation to the viewer why exactly it was bloacked, and the channel owner having no clue either (didn’t get a message or notification.. from his point of view, everything’s normal).

    I still have that VM ready to go. If any of you TF guys (or the Authors on here, even though I kinda doubt this would be worth an article on TF) wants to take a look and compare it to what you see on your own connection, feel free to contact me. Basically all you need is either Teamviewer (.com) or some VNC variation (RealVNC, UltraVNC, TightVNC, …).

    The VM is restricted a bit (hardware and connectivity limitations) but for this purpose it should be fine. All it has installed is an english Windows XP, Firefox and some programs. It’s also set up so that when it’s rebooted, all changes are reverted (i.e. nothing gets saved permanently). So in theory, you could install programs that you think are getting restricted based on the location for testing too

    If you wanna take a look, send me a mail and I’ll give you the details to connect :)
    chameleon87@gmx.net

    I might not reply immediately, but I’m checking that address quite frequently. Don’t panic :P

    • O’lay Pirate

      I recon you’re trying to get access to their desktop so you can install a virus or some shit. …. just my theory.

      • chameleon87

        Huh?!
        No.. you got the whole thing backwards. You would install teamviewer (or run it without installation (portable)) and connect to my VM to remote-control it as if it was your own desktop. Not the other way around. You get full control over the VM.. you can install shit, download stuff, reboot it, whatever you want. Doesn’t matter as everything’s reset once it reboots. All I can do is watch it and use my mouse and keyboard to show stuff. I don’t get any access to your computer.

        You get to see the desktop of XP in that virtual machine and you can use like “windows in a window”. That’s the whole point of teamviewer: remote controlling another PC. The only reason why I chose a VM is that I don’t want anyone looking at my personal stuff (if I were to run the teamviewer server directly on my main PC)

        I’m just as concerned about privacy as you guys are.

        So far no one has asked, so I’ll probably shut the VM down for a while till someone actually shows interest.

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  • Lethn

    So it’s only until they lose millions that they realise we’re correct and even then all we get is an insincere apology?

  • Louigi Verona

    This phenomenon is called ‘double standards’.

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  • Maggie

    So now maybe we’ll have the corporates (read: big wigs with money) fight this PIPA and all the other associated regulations. It’s like having our grandparents (and I’m 55) control the internet when they barely understand it.

  • Outch

    We should hang one entertainment executive a day at place such as the IFPI, the BPI, and of course from the 7 evil corporations including this hypocrite of Edgar Berger. As far as GEMA is concerned I believe that we should blow them up!

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  • Freedom Warrior

    GERMANY IS A DEAD ZONE FOR MUSIC. THERE IS NO MUSIC IN RESTAURANTS, BARS, CLUBS. PEOPLE DON’ T DANCE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLACE TO DANCE. AND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE OVER 40′. A MUSICIAN CANT PLAY FOR TIPS IN A RESTAURANT. A STREET MUSICIAN HAS TO PAY A FEE TO PLAY ON A CORNER. I AM SORRY I EVER MOVED TO GERMANY. WE DRIVE TO PRAGUE IF WE WANT MUSIC. I USED TO HEAR CLIPS OF SONGS ON YOU TUBE AND THEN BUY THE MUSIC. BECAUSE ALMOST ALL VIDEOS ARE BLOCK, I NEVER HEAR ANY MUSIC. GERMANY HAS BECOME A DEPRESSING TUNELESS SOCIETY BECAUSE OF GEMA. I WILL NEVER BUY A CD AGAIN. I AM PISSED OFF.GEMA IS A MONEY GRABBING ORGANIZATION AND RESTAURANTS DON’T WANT TO DEAL WITH TIME SO NO ONE WINS. HOW DOES THIS MUSIC MAFIA HELP THE INDUSTRY AND UP AND COMING MUSIC GROUPS? everyone looses.

    • Yo

      +1

      Kindergartens told to pay up before singing
      http://www.thelocal.de/society/20101228-32079.html

      • http://7-books.net/ SleepyJohn

        Well, that’s more like it! I can well understand that nice man at Sony being pissed off with the incompetence of his debt-collecting goons. Not only do they charge such ludicrously-inflated prices that no-one buys anything, and steadfastly prevent customers from watching the adverts, but they are ignoring huge swathes of income-producing markets.

        I expect Mr Berger is pleased that they spotted all those freetard little children singing songs without paying him, but what about their apparent failure to charge pregnant women twice for listening to a song (or thrice if they have twins)? I’m sure it would be a simple matter to instruct his politicians to force pregnant women to have scans so the MAFIAA can charge them according to the number of feotuses listening in. If I was Mr Berger I would be right pissed off at this inexcusable oversight.

        And what about the pet cats and dogs that might overhear his ‘intellectual property’ without their owners paying him? There must be hundreds of markets that these bumbling buffoons have failed miserably to capitalise upon. Poor Mr Berger; he really should have employed an organisation more skilled at debt-collecting, like the Mafia.

    • Hard Man

      Germany has been overrun by the foul stench of Islam.

  • http://7-books.net/ SleepyJohn

    I take it Sony are the ones who hired this mob to collect money for them? Or were they tricked into signing away all control of their ‘own’ ‘content’ by a devious, thieving middleman? What delicious irony.

    Sadly, I suspect the truth is that they have been hoist with their own greedy,thieving petard, having instructed these racketeers to squeeze the maximum possible amount of money out of everyone. And now they are apparently losing millions as a direct result of their own greed. I shall not shed tears for them; only for the folk in Germany who are apparently deprived of music because of odious, grasping Sony and its odious, grasping bagmen. Typical of a head honcho criminal to lay the blame for failure on his lowly employees.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thelaughingman-Fucu/100003543616471 Thelaughingman Fucu

    Stephen Harper, Rob Nicholson, John Baird, Jim Flaherty, Diane Finley and Vic Toews, along with the rest of the Conservatives are liars, cheats and thieves! Bill-C10 threatens to throw many in jail longer and needlessly! Bill C-11 would strip Canadians of even more rights to what we already own and censor our flow of information! Bill-30 will strip us of our privacy! Now lets not forget the G20 fiasco, Vic Toews immortal speech about Canadians being pedophiles, the planned pension cuts, they place gag orders on those they appoint to various studies so that if the studies turn up data contradicting their ideals, they can suppress the data, or their election fraud, and now they can’t even get our budget out on time, as if we don’t know their motivations!
    The fascist Conservatives would turn our country into an Orwellian nightmare! How can they even call themselves a legitimate government?! How dare they act like they have our best interests in mind! Who do they think they are telling us what we need and how to live our lives?! They’re the middle management and we’re the ones who hired them! We should be telling them what we want and how we want it!
    Canada needs to rise up march on Ottawa and occupy the parliament! We need to take back our country, remove the Conservatives from power! Our government, as a whole needs to be dismantled and rebuilt (that goes for those other parties as well. I’m looking at you Liberals and NDP. Fat load of good they’ve ever done for the country)! All our political parties have ever really done to us has been to divide Canadians. This only serves to make us easy prey for predators in the night! I say no more! Canadians need to stand up as one, divided by zero! Those that would appose the will of the people need to be taught a lesson, followed by some good old fashion tarring and feathering, finish with banishing traitors from Canada! Finally Canadians need some laws that allow us to force referendums on the government and punish corrupt politicians who think they can screw with their people, their employers, you and me! Fellow Canadians I implore you raise up and shout out your discontent for the horrible state of our country and the world for that matter. Shout from every mountain top (email, letters, phone calls, blogs, forums, twitter, youtube, ect…), “WE WILL NOT STAND FOR CORRUPTION WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT! WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT AS OUR FREEDOMS ARE SLOWLY ERODED! WE’RE COMING FOR YOU HARPER REGIEM! EXPECT US!” Let the voice of the masses resinate as one, thundering and deafening our oppressors. Keep screaming and screaming, every day, all day, don’t stop screaming until this country is ours again!
    ‘Things have got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad!… You’ve got to say, “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!” Then we’ll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the windows, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”
    ‘People shouldn’t fear the government, the government should fear the people!’

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thelaughingman-Fucu/100003543616471 Thelaughingman Fucu

    Stephen Harper, Rob Nicholson, John Baird, Jim Flaherty, Diane Finley and Vic Toews, along with the rest of the Conservatives are liars, cheats and thieves! Bill-C10 threatens to throw many in jail longer and needlessly! Bill C-11 would strip Canadians of even more rights to what we already own and censor our flow of information! Bill-30 will strip us of our privacy! Now lets not forget the G20 fiasco, Vic Toews immortal speech about Canadians being pedophiles, the planned pension cuts, they place gag orders on those they appoint to various studies so that if the studies turn up data contradicting their ideals, they can suppress the data, or their election fraud, and now they can’t even get our budget out on time, as if we don’t know their motivations!
    The fascist Conservatives would turn our country into an Orwellian nightmare! How can they even call themselves a legitimate government?! How dare they act like they have our best interests in mind! Who do they think they are telling us what we need and how to live our lives?! They’re the middle management and we’re the ones who hired them! We should be telling them what we want and how we want it!
    Canada needs to rise up march on Ottawa and occupy the parliament! We need to take back our country, remove the Conservatives from power! Our government, as a whole needs to be dismantled and rebuilt (that goes for those other parties as well. I’m looking at you Liberals and NDP. Fat load of good they’ve ever done for the country)! All our political parties have ever really done to us has been to divide Canadians. This only serves to make us easy prey for predators in the night! I say no more! Canadians need to stand up as one, divided by zero! Those that would appose the will of the people need to be taught a lesson, followed by some good old fashion tarring and feathering, finish with banishing traitors from Canada! Finally Canadians need some laws that allow us to force referendums on the government and punish corrupt politicians who think they can screw with their people, their employers, you and me! Fellow Canadians I implore you raise up and shout out your discontent for the horrible state of our country and the world for that matter. Shout from every mountain top (email, letters, phone calls, blogs, forums, twitter, youtube, ect…), “WE WILL NOT STAND FOR CORRUPTION WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT! WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT AS OUR FREEDOMS ARE SLOWLY ERODED! WE’RE COMING FOR YOU HARPER REGIEM! EXPECT US!” Let the voice of the masses resinate as one, thundering and deafening our oppressors. Keep screaming and screaming, every day, all day, don’t stop screaming until this country is ours again!
    ‘Things have got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad!… You’ve got to say, “I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore!” Then we’ll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the windows, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”
    ‘People shouldn’t fear the government, the government should fear the people!’

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  • http://twitter.com/cannesorbust Michael Leahy

    It’s interesting that people complain about corporations yet jump in line behind YouTube/Google on this – a corporation that dwarfs most media companies and the one that is actually pulling the videos (you know, censorship). Let them and the rights societies battle it out, I say. They need each other and will find middle ground eventually.

  • Heinrich

    Germany will always be a fascist nazi-country. Old habits die very hard. GEMA Gestapo is a living proof of that.

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  • She25

    Its not only in geramy, many videos are also not shown in finland!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Took only 10 years to realize… Maybe in another 50 they will understand sharing.

  • Randy Lewin

    Ohh that is so sad too bad they won’t be enjoying much of their lives. Check out my newest post on watch mission impossible 4 online

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  • White Witch

    Sony had my youtube site removed over a copyright dispute. I used a version of ‘let it Snow’ that was over 50 years old which meant the copyright had lapsed in the EU. The song was still copyrighted in the US by WMG because their copyright laws last 100 years. I disputed Sony’s claim because (1) the copyright no longer applied in the EU where I was posting the video and (2) WMG not Sony owned the copyright in the US.
    Google sided with Sony and removed my youtube site.

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  • http://www.bed-adjustable.co.uk/waterbeds/ Waterbeds

    people listen to a bad sensored music

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  • http://www.sbobet.com/ Asian Handicap Betting

    Sony you have done too much. Too many rootkits, too many PS3 SWAT-team crack downs, for me to forget. Get lost

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