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Thunder Blasts uTorrent’s Market Share Away

Contrary to what previous reports have shown, the popular uTorrent application may very well not be the most used BitTorrent client. According to data collected from more than 357 million unique peers IDs, the Chinese BitTorrent client ‘Thunder’ is actually the most used BitTorrent client.

It is no secret that BitTorrent is huge in China. Earlier this year The Pirate bay published a map of all their tracker connections, which revealed that roughly a third of all connections were made from China, compared to a measly 8% from runner up the US.

What is new to many is that contrary to most other parts of the world, people from China also prefer to use a local BitTorrent client to manage their downloads. This new insight comes from data collected from three of the largest BitTorrent trackers adding up to a sample of 357 million unique peer IDs.

With the help of other tracker operators, EZTV’s NovaKing has gathered statistics from the OpenBitTorrent, PublicBitTorrent and Denis Stalker trackers. Spanning over a week, the overall statistics show that it’s not uTorrent but actually the Chinese BitTorrent client Thunder (also known as Xunlei) that has the largest market share.

We have to admit that this data came as a complete surprise to us and that we initially doubted its validity, but TorrentFreak is assured that these statistics are indeed correct. Previously we have reported on the market share of the various BitTorrent clients, but Thunder never made it into the list of most used clients. In this list below, however, Thunder/Xunlei actually beats uTorrent.

10 most used BitTorrent clients.

The logical explanation for this surprising result is that the previous statistics were gathered from a sample of torrents that did not include many Chinese downloaders. Apparently the Chinese prefer to use a local client (and local content) that’s available in Chinese, instead of uTorrent or Vuze which have a dominant market share in the rest of the world.

When we go through the rest of the stats we see that uTorrent has a small lead over Vuze (formerly Azureus). However, the difference is much smaller than our previous market share reports have suggested. This is another indication that the sample used for our previous reports was not as representative as it should have been, despite the large sample size.

Transmission and BitComet have a market share of 3.3 and 4 percent respectively, which is in line with previous reports. In ninth place we find another Chinese client, Tuotu, which is listed as Unknown in the list above.

The new data sheds a new light on the market share of BitTorrent clients. More than anything it reveals that there are quite a few regional differences when it comes to BitTorrent habits. By itself this is nothing new, but that a BitTorrent client used by tens of millions of people can fly under the radar for so long outside China has certainly surprised us.

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  • Goose

    Very surprising news! :/

  • kabuki0009

    Utorrent for ever!!

  • Anonymous

    “adding up to a sample of 357 unique peer IDs.”

    Should be 357 million :)

  • opera user

    BitTorrent client needs a firefox…

  • BoSNiaN

    fuck china

  • h0Po

    China is big!…is normal that,this Thunder beats uTorren!:P

  • Cordelia

    It would be nice with a “special” on all the things you can do with Vuze… I’ve been lazy and using uTorrent because it’s easy and small.

    But I’ve found that it seems to be worth getting to know Vuze – the built in private/public tracker search function is particularly cool but much else too.

    Pleast TF… Consider a special feature on this!

    After all it’s open source etc… Prefererable to uTorrent.

  • Cynthia

    “In this list below, however, Thunder/Xunlei actually beats uTorrent.”

    If I’m not mistaken, Xunlei is in 4th position in the chart below that statement, with µTorrent at the 1st position. Is this an error?

  • Cynthia

    Disregard my comment above. Thunder’s in 3rd, Xunlei’s distinct in 4th, and the total of Thunder’s 85 million and Xunlei’s 19 million makes 104 million, which beats ­µTorrent by ca. 13 million.

    Congratulations, Thunder!

  • Kapcha

    “!0″ what is this? =) But realy surprising news ) I use uTorrent )

  • TheWickerMan

    WTF:?

  • TheWickerMan

    µTorrent IS NOT open source

    IT IS SPYWARE…you get tracked

  • Harold Feit, Depthstrike Entertainment

    ” µTorrent IS NOT open source

    IT IS SPYWARE…you get tracked

    The first doesn’t necessarily lead to the second. And everyone who has claimed the second has been unable to prove it.

    And Xunlei shares your entire hard drive without prompting, without permission, and without a way to turn it off except for uninstalling it.

  • Name

    You ever see Thunder when you download?

  • me

    @10

    add the totals for thunder & Xunlei and its higher than utorrent

  • wizz

    how does thunder compare to utorrent? anyone with experience please share

  • Aerilus

    my conclusion is that India needs to get with the program

  • cdnguy

    Doesn’t count. China is in a league by itself.

  • chisophugis

    If we’re gonna add up Thunder and Xunlei shouldn’t we add up uTorrent and Mainline?

    this puts uTorrent back in front if my rough mental math is approximately right.

  • TheWickerMan

    What’s utorrent?

    Thunder is Lightning fast!

    There is however µTorrent which is small not processor heavy, but like Zombies in L4D2, is INFECTED

    Save your souls, buy legal copies

  • -_-

    utorrent ftw! bitcheZ :D

  • est

    It’s should be point out, the data is achieved under the situation that, ThePirateBay has been blocked in China since 2007 (or earlier?).

    I am sure the statistics will be higher if there’s no GFW of China.

  • A non Y mouse

    Well I guess the big media cartel should leave us alone and go sue China! Good luck with that parasites!

  • A non Y mouse

    From wiki on Thunder…

    January 2007, Xunlei(Swift Thunder) received third round funding led by Ceyuan Ventures with participation from Morningside, IDG, Fidelity Asia. Google was a strategic investor.

    Interesting to see Google is an investor in p2p software.

  • Joe

    Jesus christ, even their torrent clients are riddled with experience driven leveling? Really? What’s with the chinese and grinding out levels :S Why do they enjoy electronic slaving away so much?

  • ya

    thats because theres more chinese people then everybody in the world combined..

    utorrent is still better..

  • Vlican

    lol china…

  • Truther

    Who cares about China?

  • www.bitsnoop.com

    Statistics were done by peer_id. Not the most accurate way, as peer_id is random and can be changed by client.

    See http://wiki.theory.org/BitTorrentSpecification

    More reliable is to group by IP addresses, but this is not possible for obvious reasons.

    Still, quite surprising.

    @23 Yep, and they do not accept P2P sites into their AdWords/AdSense. Bastards.

  • Anon

    So I will still be connecting to 70% uTorrent and no Thunder at all, because I am not Chinese.

  • tiny

    @29

    It’s because there is a great firewall of china between you and them.

  • hadopirate

    Xunlei = Bitvomit client.

    I ban systematic Xunlei peers.

  • jon7272

    yes just in one country with heaps of people make this irrelevent uttorent used in lots of countries

  • No-Name

    Not surprising at all when you see that most of them still use IE anyway. Japanese and South Korean don’t use torrent that much, if they did, I’m sure there would be another one in that list from there.

  • AlienDK

    @6: Vuze is a great client, except for its “I BLOATED AND I EAT UR MEMORY!”. uTorrent is great for running in the background 24/7. However, I do think that Vuze is very nice, but most people don’t use all of its features so it would be a waste of memory to run it (for most people).

  • Anonymous

    wait for internet boom in india in coming 5 years with population 1.2 billion indians can get utorrent on top again !

  • rty

    Apparently what happens in china stays in china :X

  • dwpbike

    ah, so – shades of charley chan

  • dwpbike

    what’s with the .exe crap with thunder?

  • Anonymous

    Just saw this on the BTJunkie page…

    Power Outage Update – December 5th, 2009
    A power outage damaged some equipment on Monday. The site is about 90% back online. The report system is working again, however records from before Monday are still being restored. We expect to have this resolved soon.

    Hope its not the same power outage that Demonoid had!

  • nah in bmore

    I’ve seen Xunlei a couple of times in my connections tab (among other unknown clients like ABC Wheels or something, and a bunch of different jazz)

    Anyhow, minus China I would still wager that utorrent and its cousin Bittorrent (near exactly the same since Bittorrent, Inc bought Utorrent) are still the most used clients. I’ve seen people using them in a couple diff countries.

    Anyway Xunlei sounds like it sucks last time I checked the wikipedia on it, I think it said something about viruses.

    Transmission and uTorrent all the way

  • trustnoone

    go utorrent, go utorrent go!!!! lol

  • GP

    uTorrent sucks anyway. Closed source fail.

  • zoo

    Thunder is the best “leecher” of all torrent clients in the market. Therefore it’s more popular in asia.

  • MD3

    Well, english also is not the most spoken language in the world…

    Surprised? It’s mandarin! :)

    (By the way, the second one is SPANISH.)
    :D

  • General Snus

    No, English is the most spoken language in the world.

    Mandarin is the most spoken FIRST language in the world.

    There are more people in China studying English than there are native English speakers in the world.

  • richard

    Is thunder faster than uTorrent?

    Could do do a speed test please? The Wikipedia page for Thunder claims that they are much faster than others, and I’d switch if that is the case!

  • lol

    It’s not that surprising really considering how many people live in China.

  • Anonymous

    @48 Dec 05, 2009 at 05:43 by richard:

    Did you read the part about redirection and malware?

    Or the spam that pops up.

  • notsoanon

    where’s my deluge? damn…

    guess that shows there still gazillion more windows user compared to us penguins :)

  • timmah

    Azureus is no problem if you have a newer computer – utorrent may not be large and consume much memory, but it lacks a heap of customizations that azureus has.

    Oh, and uTorrent isnt open source, and the authors real intentions are in question when they changed from open to closed source.

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  • Yatti420

    I get way more utorrent peers.. Even for Japanese anime..

  • Yatti420

    And people.. Clients aren’t just “Faster” then others.. There are algorithms they use but its limited.. Your guide for best speeds are simple.. If your throttled you already know the steps to take.. Bottom line is pay for a better plan from your ISP if your not getting satisfying speeds..

  • aXXo

    who really cares what the Chinese are using? translate utorrent into Chinese and pretty soon everyone will see a sharp rise in the utorrent market share!!!

  • WTF

    well ,it sucks

  • \\.neo.styles|sSG

    Wow, 357 million people pirating things. The internet has really swallowed the morality of the people everywhere. It’s almost like some epidemic that causes you to lose your sense of right and wrong. Really, I thought it was big, but I had no clue it was that big. People have been completely consumed by it. This mindblowing. 357 million is 5% of the entire world’s population. That’s a lot of copyright infringement. No wonder the economy isn’t going so well now.

  • -=

    lol and all 3 of those trakers belong to TPB if you turn a blind eye to it then your a fool nuff said

  • wwmoggy

    cant get over how many Dumb ass’s still claim utorrent is spyware .

    wheres your prof you have none

  • -=

    ^add to this
    o yea since you combined Thunder/Xunlei lets combind mainline + utorrent = kicks Thunder/Xunlei ass any day in how many ppl use it

  • Widget

    It might also be worth mentioning that FlashGet is a Chinese app as well, though they keep English translations for it (and I use it myself, though not for torrents). It’s a download manager that also supports eDonkey and BitTorrent.

  • dPsychc

    Certainly surprising

  • teohhanhui

    Thunder == xunlei (it’s the Chinese name, ??)

    They have their own P2P network in addition to BitTorrent and ed2k. The official client is riddled with spyware/adware and performs hidden uploads in the background. There are however many ad-free mods available.

  • Dan

    This has to be wrong I never even HEARD about that tnhured or w/e and never saw a peer using it. I think it’s just some good advertising :)

    ‘Hey, if I pay you $*** write a news that we’re more popular’

    uTorrent FTW

  • hafizan

    compare to other torrent based software.Thunder or xunlei much faster download . no need of benchmark just try yourself.

  • GFW

    ??? ????? ?????

  • DarkLogic

    Azureus was great i dont like vuez i dont need utube built in to my torrent downloader anyone agree i use utorrent now tryed to use Azureus after the change but it auto updates the only thing iu really miss is the 3D swarm add on anyone know what im talkin about

  • boy from People’s Republic of China

    Hey?The official website for “Thunder(Xunlei, in chinese it is called ?? (written in chinese characters ) )” is xunlei.com. It indexes a huge amount of multimedia files as well as demo softwares, e-books, which are available across the Internet ,but stores no multimedia content in its servers. Thanks to the poor sense of intellectual property law(actual the ftp&http servers in china’s colleges are the main base for pirated general purpose and engineering softwares like Microsft Windows clients/servers, office 2003, office 2007,UG,PRO/II,PRO/E,AutoCAD,Adobe Creative suite,ChemCAD,AspenOne,CoreDraw, OriginLab, LabView, Protel,because the colleges use them in classes) and its poor law enforcement, it is so rampant. Such grim truth also dampens the multinationals, especially those software giants from the USA.

  • Willy

    I thought uTorrent was good until I started running Tixati. WAY better interface and speeds, and pretty charts and graphs to boot!

  • omfg

    lol those asians must be blind : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xunlei.png

    thats one ugly interface ;)

  • Anonymous

    ?????????

  • ???

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  • Ulia

    I use BitTyrant http://bittyrant.cs.washington.edu/ is a new, protocol compatible BitTorrent client that is optimized for fast download performance. BitTyrant is…

    * Fast – During evaluation testing on more than 100 real BitTorrent swarms, BitTyrant provided an average 70% download performance increase when compared to the existing Azureus 2.5 implementation, with some downloads finishing more than three times as quickly.
    * Fair – BitTorrent was designed with incentives in mind: if a user is downloading at 30 KBps, they should upload at 30 KBps. However, due to the unique workload properties of many real-world swarms, this is not always enforced. BitTyrant is designed to make efficient use of your scarce upload bandwidth, rewarding those users whose upload allocations are fair and only allocating excess capacity to other users.
    * Familiar – BitTyrant is based on modifications to Azureus 2.5, currently the most popular BitTorrent client. All of our changes are under the hood. You’ll find the GUI identical to Azureus, with optional additions to display statistics relevant to BitTyrant’s operation.

    I also use a seedbox sometimes when I’m not downloading off of http://www.emule-project.net ed2k

    There is lots of Chinese ed2k users btw as baidu officially list a search engine on the www for ed2k servers on baidu (basically china’s google or main google compeditor)

  • DeltaPan

    I can’t stand those bloody monstrosities, no place in Bit Torrent in my opinion!

    Xunlei and Flashget are download manager hybrids which are too aggressive on Bit Torrent, as too are some BT devoted clients, too many in recent years.

    I use Vuse and although a hog with my RAM and although i’ve a hyper threading processor it eats threads, i can kick and ban downloader hybrids and the several bad clients which kill my download speeds.

    Not all Flashget DM hybrids are so aggressive and when i check, if i see a connecting Flashget upping to me as well as i to it, i leave it, all Xunlei’s are kicked as par of course.

    It’s a question of settings, even Bit Vomit, sorry, Comet, can be friendly and well behaved, but one has to set it up that way else default settings make it aggressive, i know because until i joined XWT, a private wrestling torrents tracker, who have it banned like many of the more aggressive ones which also screw up swarm stat’ analysis for private tracker members, i used Bit Vomit and didn’t realise myself at the time i was bullying well behaved clients in swarms, preferring to be fair and not a swarm bully, i’m glad i changed to Vuse.

    I know the C++ Utorrent is popular but i want to kick and ban clients which kill my speeds when they cluster in my connections.

    i know this is true because i can slow down to a fraction of my 128Kb ceiling on my 1.1Mbit copper connection, i check, see multiple Xunlei’s, kick and ban them, then my speeds will rise to 155Kbs, bit vomit’s, Transmission’s, most Mainline’s etc, etc,, even Utorrent beta’s are bullies compared to the standard releases.

    BT clients factor aggressive elements into the builds so users think they are great, faster than others but it’s just bullying others in a swarm, not exactly nice peer behaviours.

    Monitor what some of these things do when they cluster, i’ve had slow speeds with even one bad client connecting even, i’ve looked at connecting peer behaviour and watching what happens when i kick and boot and know what i’m saying is correct and BT client developers should be bloody well ashamed of themselves, if some clients can be well behaved and fair to others, so can they, making their clients aggressive to give them a market edge because users think they are superior simply isn’t the ethos of file sharing, they aren’t superior, they simply bully swarms into giving them packet upload priority.

    traditional BT clients are bad enough but the xunlei and most Flashget download manager hybrids are out of order, like some decent Bit Vomit users, all it takes is proper configuration and they will play nice, at default they are terrible in swarms.

    Look more and watch the behaviours, all client should have similar IP filters and kick and ban facility so users can manage connecting peers, without that in my Vuse, it’d take me a week to download a 700mb XviD file.

    Their should be a code of ethics in client development so no client is more aggressive than another!

    BTW.

    To get rid of the rubbish interface of Vuse and have Azureus back, simply go to options, select advanced user settings, then jump down to “Interface” -> “Start” and last settings dialogue, “Display Vuse UI chooser” and click “Show” button, then simply select “classic” and Bob’s your sisters brother.

    Anybody with a decent RAM, i’ve only got 512Mb, but anybody 1Gb and dual core processor, will have no trouble with it being a Java based client, i’m hyperthreding P4 and 512RAM and get by without much processor lag and Mem Turbo reclaiming my RAM ensures browser multitasking etc isn’t too bad, rather my machine a bit clunky sometimes than not having much download speed because i can’t kick the bad cleints etc, if using any other cleint.

    **Long live Vuse/Azureus!.**

    Peace.

    Pax-Delta-Pan

    Enlightened Evolution.
    Tempered From The Chaotic Forge Of Life

  • DeltaPan

    Should read…
    I know this is true because i can slow down to a fraction of my 128Kb ceiling on my 1.1Mbit copper connection, i check, see multiple Xunlei’s, kick and ban them, then my speeds will rise to ** a level 115Kbs spiking to 128Kbps**, bit vomit’s, Transmission’s, most Mainline’s etc, etc,, even Utorrent beta’s are bullies compared to the standard releases.

    Sorry.

  • Gargamel

    This shouldnt come as a shock when its China for God sakes. If they all decided to switch to Hubba Bubba it’d be the #1 selling gum in the world tomorrow.

  • Ot

    I just found this one:

    Tixati – An Advanced New BitTorrent Client: Not too many BitTorrent clients are able to compete with uTo… http://bit.ly/6Q4jes

    feature sounds good on this client:
    # • Expert local file management functions which allow you to move files to a different location even while downloading is still in progress

  • DeltaPan

    Pardon the other typo’s too, really must proofread more, too early for Saturday Morning.

    Their instead of There etc, cleint instead of client, what am i like, ay, doh!

  • zorro_CN

    Hi all?I am from China.
    http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/99334.htm
    Many guys in this websites “cnbeta” claim that they hate Xunlei, although they use it at the same time.
    Many Chinese IPV6 BT websites allow utorrent only and ban xunlei.

  • kilat

    Thunder is famous because it can bypass ISP torrent throttle.
    If your ISP don’t limit torrent speed, you don’t need Thunder.

  • 666

    Deluge FTW!

    beats uTorrent in download speed (always have max speed with it and connects to seeds/peers in a matter of a seconds)

  • 1234566

    http://www.louboutin1992.com it is a beautiful

  • ….

    utorrent has spyware.

  • Anonymous

    @….
    “utorrent has spyware.”

    Prove it!

  • Sean

    From Wikipedia

    “Xunlei’s popularity arouses much competition. The biggest competitors are Tencent whose flagship product QQ is used by nearly every Chinese user and FlashGet whose product was the previous No 1 in China. As more and more tools are developing their own P2SP, Xunlei’s technical advantage is facing greater challenges. Xunlei’s counter tactic is to hire technicals to DDoS attack its enemies’ web servers so to stop their distributions. One recent incidence is the a DDos on Flashget’s web servers. However, Xunlei’s dominance seems still very strong. This can be explained by its growth of P2SP network using questionable methods and its deceptive marketing techniques”

    Tsk, Tsk. Xunlei doesn’t seem very friendly.

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  • jse

    85th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • RoestVrijStaal

    The Chinese are coming!

    @58 – wwmoggy:
    [blockquote]
    cant get over how many Dumb ass’s still claim utorrent is spyware .

    wheres your prof you have none
    [/blockquote]

    Watch this:
    http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=16009
    http://slyck.com/story1357.html
    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20211&sid=7cdd9b8bbc99d583b459a251253f68d2
    http://www.zeropaid.com/news/4264/peerfactor_invents_peeragainstpeer_networks/

    Seems clear that uTorrent is bad, isn’t?

    ( Ernesto, could you post more bb-code information please? )

  • anon

    actually, there’re 5 in top 10 clients originally come from china.
    Thunder, BitComet, BitSpirit, FlashGet and Tuotu.

    Actually, there’re other chinese clients you can find in the complete list: QQDownload, Vagaa, QVOD and Net Transport. underground network in china is indeed popular.

  • anon

    actually, there’re 5 in top 10 clients originally come from china.
    Thunder, BitComet, BitSpirit, FlashGet and Tuotu.

    also other chinese clients you can find in the complete list: QQDownload, Vagaa, QVOD and Net Transport. underground network in china is indeed popular.

  • ….

    utorrent slows your internet and is full of spyware.

  • gaewah

    Actually Xunlei is not interesting/prepared in international marketplace, why do u think it’s an AD?

  • William

    @88 – Bring proof.

  • HMS

    Did not know that uTorrent was closed ’til this thread! That’s reason enough for me to stay away. Support open souce software y’all! Hearing good things about deluge. Cusomization is always nice.

    I can’t stand Vuze. My ubuntu build was hella buggy. Plug-ins, updates, and file creation never worked right. Plus, the thing is a resource HOG. The UI was bloated on my Jaunty, and the windows version on my brothers XP system looked to beat RealOne player as the all-time app from hell. He switched to BitTorrent and seems to like it.

    I Thought I’d put a word in for Transmission. It comes default on my Karmic Koala. Penguins RULE!
    It’s light on system resources, and has a lovely spartan UI. Transmission is lean and mean. It’s easy to set up and use. There are no fancy displays, and it’s not terribly customizable, but it has everything I need and nothing more. I can: move files, de/select files to download, set priorites, add/remove trackers, all without stopping, no prob. I can un/choke my bandwidth from the panel or with a single mouse click, and easily customize file specific limits. It doesn’t have Magnet support yet, but it has been promied for the next build.

    I ignored Transmission in favor of Vuze from the release of Jaunty, until I installed Karmic. BIG MISTAKE! I may yet adopt another client, but for now it’s Transmission FTW!

  • Radz

    as far as i know, someone from has already bought uTorrent?

  • egot

    Regarding people who accuse utorrent of spying on you and people defending the aforementioned accusation.

    Since uTorrent is closed source, you can’t prove what is is doing. However torrenting is a sensitive matter and i would NOT settle for the possibility that its safe, caused by lack of evidence that its not.

    I want to be SURE that its safe. Since with closed source software you can prove neither that it is safe, nor that is isn’t, in my opinion uTorrent shouldn’t even be considered for use by anyone. There are so many other options out there, it is foolish to take this small(?) risk.

    Use deluge/vuze/ any open source torrent client that suits your needs.

  • archl

    Who cares about uTorrent :[

    Xunlei is the most popular one.

    I don’t use torrents often except downloading Linux ISOs.

    Xunlei support searching and downloading resources from different sources, http/ftp/ed2k/bt and it did that automaticly, at one time for the same files.

    Xunlei have a website use thunder://
    to publish all kinds of resources and user comments on popular items people downloading.

    No, there is no Internet with a work ing Xunlei, all you can do now is play your own PC. The only rival I ever seen is aria2 which get less than half bandwidth share.

    Xunlei is the fastest downloading manager in the world – may not rival mldonkey for pure ed2k.

  • Anonymous

    If TheWickerMan says that utorrent has spyware, then he is obviously working for the MPAA and is visiting here as a spy.

    Move along people, these are typical scare tactics used by anti-piracy groups.

  • astrospliff

    simce I maintain close to 500 torrents at once with 2/512 k no other client but utorrent is suitable with its easier organization of number of torrents

  • ….

    uTorrent has a backdoor in it and allows them to control your computer remotely.

  • unknow

    idk if anyone will see this or not….

    heres the deal…
    pro:
    thunder(??)download not only using p2p dl…. it also using mutli-http address download, its kind of like p2p however, u have lots of http server supply data don’t forget peer 2.
    also the magnet link.. they have that thing for like 10 years…
    plus they have a search engine works much better then priatebay! 1 click open up thunder dl software…
    and alot more
    con:
    crappy software!
    block other software.
    unwanted setting.
    alot more
    want to know more email me @:
    junk.iqao@gmail.com

  • havoc802

    I use thunder in my college because utorrent doesn’t work. At home I just use utorrent.

  • nope

    doesn’t matter

    torrents suck

    usenet blows it away

  • Shirley

    Excellent report, TorrentFreak! I really enjoy it when you write about torrenting in various countries. Maybe you could do a story on which clients are popular in which country? I’m very curious about what’s being used in Japan.

  • Ash Ketchum

    Xunlei appears to be the most popular client only because China has a huge population. Its better to count the number of countries where a particular client is popular and rank it according to that.

    For example, if uTorrent is the most popular client in more countries compared to xunlei, then its number 1.

  • nah in bmore

    Im surprised to see Flashget on there. Flashget is the lamest download manager ever… they need to port aria2 over to windows.

  • Alky

    All I know is that when I look at the peerlist in utorrent, 90% of the other clients are utorrent, 5% are azureus/vuze and I’ve never in my life even seen thunder/xunlei.

  • Let’s all go back to gnutella

    Lamewire – you know you miss it. :)

  • Jack

    Thunder is so awesome because it downloads a lot faster than utorrent… It does not limit your download speed in ratio to you upload speed. So I could be downloading at 1mb/s and seeding at 1kb/s. Utorrent is slow. It has a fast launch, so its good for little files, but for games, you need Thunder.

  • AIDEN

    Actually?there‘re 5 Chinese clients on TOP 10…
    THUNER,BitComet?Bitspirit?FlashGet?TUOTU….

  • ASTERROID

    Thunder is much too faster….Anyone who ever userd knows that…

  • Silent Bob

    All those claiming it’s got a back door, reports back etc.
    Where is the evidence?

    I’ve wiresharked the client countless times, found no spying packets anywhere. You know how you KNOW the claims are bulls**t?

    They say the last ‘safe’ client is 1.6.1, that would be the 1.6.1 brought out AFTER bittorrent Inc. took over the code.

    It’s all based on paranoia and plain old ignorance.

    BTW, Vuze did the exact same deals with the MPAA (or rather studios that are ALSO MPAA members) that bittorrent did, and no-one accuses them of spying.

    Another fun fact, AntiP2P groups tend to use open-source clients, so they can modify them legally to work in an automated fashion. Majority of anti-p2p clients, are vuze-based.

    same with leecher mods.

    Open source clients are killing bittorrent. Just like open source software in general is inferior to closed source. There’s a reason why open source code is free – it’s not worth paying for.

    So, lets see some evidence behind these claims of µTorrent spying, eh.

  • tz

    ????

  • Vodka

    In Soviet, China you don’t share files…………
    The files share YOU!

  • ptsick

    Used Thunder all the time..

  • icdmize

    http://bit.ly/7m4139

    Xunlei translated to English. Honestly this is probably the best looking torrent website I’ve seen for the common folk.

  • DeltaPan

    @ Bob 111

    I know matey, what you say is perfectly correct.

    At the end of the day, i care not a jot.

    True, modded clients joining swarms are unavoidable although at least Axureus does recognise altered clients so can be kicked and banned permanently, assuming log list is transferred across reinstalls etc, by the IP filter.

    They don’t have to slave clients to get connecting IP’s etc, it’s the intrigue of the less knowledgeable, is all.

    All they need to do is join swarms!

    Once they have peer IP’s, MPAA agenecies know who to hack and backdooring through clients isn’t as easy as other methods which serve them much better and as Media Defender Defenders proved in 2007 with the content of the MediaDefender emails, they don’t care about hacking being infraction of criminal law whereas P2P communities merely commit civil infractions of copyright.

    One thing i will say about Chinese P2P software tech’ is….

    How involved do people think the Chinese military are in these things and what are their main agendum/directives regards the Internet in the West?

    And that is not some paranoid notion nor conspiracy theory, go look and see.

    In some P2P clients, it’s not copyright agencies people should be concerned with.

    No offence meant or implied to Chinese citizens, but after what their military did and still do to peace loving Buddhists, i’ve zero tolerance for the Chinese military shenanigans so don’t mind pointing that ‘something’ out, go check it out, they are a pestilance to Western Internet, not least to politicians and any in the civil services and health services, universities and P2P is very much in the modus operandi equation but even if it wasn’t they’d simply employ other hacking method.

    Peace!

    PaxDeltaPan

  • Cujo

    Miss Hum said: there is no word for “I” in chinese but instead they use the word “WE” instead ;)

  • fair talk

    xunlei is the most stable and fast download…

  • Anon

    But it’s closed source + windows only = fail.

  • hmmm

    Soon TF will discover China has a giant search engine called baidu, that’s nearly as big as google…

    Yes indeed, the US aren’t the center of the world.

    Also, Santa doesn’t exist.

  • Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV

    At the risk of sounding like a noob, I’ve never even heard of Thunder/Xunlei.

  • ?????

    TorrentFreak editors’ unawareness of Xunlei doesn’t really say much. Most communities formed around private, ratio-keeping, fair-play trackers have long known about both Xunlei and its users’–Chinese or otherwise–habits. Xunlei is popular because, in addition to having Chinese interface, it is a cheating client. Quite a few private trackers have banned Xunlei.
    I’m not saying all Chinese BT users cheat trackers or that all ratio cheaters are Chinese but China’s overall a big contributor to ratio-cheating, as well as other activities detrimental to publicly-available grassroots services on the Internet (Chinese trojans, dialers, all other sorts of malware, and “SEO” are all over the Internet).
    Not to mention, the Chinese government’s stranglehold on Chinese citizens ‘net access means they can’t be as much generous about their bandwidth and as much careless about their “network collision cross-section,” their “footprint,” as are users from less restrictive regions.

  • ?????

    Also,

    @Silent Bob:

    Wireshark, previously Ethereal, is open source. Kthnx.

  • Ivanovic

    Never believe and go for chinese shit!. I presonally can’t trust the slant eyes.

    Anyway, right, who gives a f*** what china uses or not ? its not in this world anyway :P

  • soul

    Actually it’s nothing surprising, xunlei has been the most popular bittorrent client long time ago. I’m from Malaysia and most of my friend use that. Why? Because you can get the most speed out of bittorrent and now the client even feature offline downloading which similars to those torrentflux service.

  • test

    not really a good news. This Thunder thing is a leecher client and upload to Thunder much more than other “normal” clients and already ruined the environment of Chinese P2P (BT/eMule) networks.

    btw, I’m from China.

  • test

    not really a good news. This Thunder thing is a leecher client and upload to Thunder much more than other “normal” clients (that’s why it’s “faster” as Thunder can download from other Thunder peers while other clients can’t) and already ruined the environment of Chinese P2P (BT/eMule) networks.

    btw, I’m from China.

  • ytg

    that means there is less seeders, xunlei is a fxxking leech client by fxxking chinese and you cannot make seed torrent by it.
    100% xunlei = 100% no seed !
    I’m no doubt chinese is fxxking clever, that’s a good anti-p2p way and they got what they want, isn’t it?

  • group-b

    why my posts are still censored ????

  • group-b

    -not Bittorrent Inc. (bittorrent_com, utorrent_com)
    -not Vuze Inc. (vuze_com, azureus_sourceforge_net)
    -not spyware fakes like almost all of rest clients
    -not BT unfriednly clients like FlashGet, Xunlei
    -not features poor (Wyzo, Opera, Miro, Tribler)
    -not very old unactive development (ABC, Bittornado, Bittyrrant)

  • group-b

    BT clients comparations

    _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients
    _http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-bittorrent-client.htm
    _http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/File-Sharing/
    _http://fileforum.betanews.com/browse/WWW-Internet/File-Sharing/new
    _http://en.softonic.com/windows/bittorrent

  • group-b

    I tried almost 30 BT clients so far,
    and find only these 5 suit my needs, good or open licence, trustfully brand (not threat)

    Tixati,BitSpirit, Deluge,BitComet,OneSwarm,
    KTorrent, Halite, Transmission

  • group-b

    OneSwarm is probably detected
    under “Vuze” or “Bittyrrant”

  • uread

    Xunlei is 100% leecher. But it has some features far more advanced than other similiar applications. It incorporates http, ftp, emule, bittorrent downloads all in one. When you do a http download, it connets you to all sites with the file with the help of its huge database. Really super fast.

  • Transmission

    Transmission FTW!

  • harwey

    Bitcomet

  • monyxie

    fuxk thunder, cause it fuxks me everyday

  • Man-o-man

    Deluge still gets no love eh?

    That’s cool. It still profits from uTorrent’s PEX & with trackerless torrenting becoming more & more popular Deluge’s speeds are surpassing uTorrent. If you use uTorrent, you need trackers… Lots of them or your speeds turn to moot.

  • Denis

    Yeah, absolutelly.

    Deluge is clean, fast, feautre-rich, cross-platform,

    Interface is clone of uTorrent.

    There is no need to support Bittorrent Inc. by your testing, heh…

  • MeaCulpa

    Sad to see leecher rules.

  • MeaCulpa

    Now you ppl believe there IS freedom and Human Rights in China, haha

  • malai

    Xunlei is the Mandarin name of Thunder and they are the same product.

    Xunlei is not a leecher client in that it does seed during downloads and can be made to seed after downloads.

    It can do bittorrent, emule and file hoster downloads. No other bittorent clients can do that.

    Its claim to fame in Malaysia is due to its alleged ability to spoof http header and bypassed the local ISP’s throttling.

    There is a Malaysian’s modified version of Xunlei with English translation by Hehehe Hunter in standard installation version and the portable version. Before you dis it, you should at least try it. Most of the commentators have not tried it and are clearly ignorant, prejudiced and biased against anything Chinese.

  • Bobe-On (The Right to Remain Silent)

    On Dec 06, 2009 at 05:41, Silent Bob wrote:

    open source software in general is inferior to closed source.

    “Myth #2…
    If open source software isn’t reliable enough to use, then the Internet isn’t reliable enough, because the Internet infrastructure relies heavily on Open Source software.”
    - Tim O’Reilly

    So, lets see some evidence behind these claims…

    I’ve wiresharked the client countless times, found no spying packets anywhere.

    “Wireshark is a free [GPL license] packet analyzer computer application. It is used for network troubleshooting, analysis, software and communications protocol development, and education. Originally named Ethereal”
    – Wikipedia

    ;)

    It’s all based on paranoia and plain old ignorance.

    Took the words right out of your mouth. ;)

  • test

    @142: having an option for seeding doesn’t mean it actually seeds to other clients. Thunder’s behavior is that it uploads _way_ more to other Thunder clients than other “normal” clients.

    If you try to download a torrent in a Chinese site you’ll notice that – by using Azureus or uTorrent you can only get a speed of 10kB/s or so, while Thunder can get more than 100kB/s. The only reason is most of the peers use Thunder as well.

    Plus, there is no way to make new torrents or seed existing files not downloaded by Thunder by using Thunder.

    @128: well that’s an unfortunate thing, but I don’t think you need to attack all Chinese :)

  • test

    actually this Thunder thing is not even welcomed by many active Chinese eMule seeders (most of them use DLP to ban Thunder from downloading from them).

    so don’t claim everything as “prejudiced and biased against anything Chinese”. It’s bad, so it’s bad, no matter where it’s from :)

    btw, I’m Chinese as well.

  • test

    @14:You ever see Thunder when you download?
    no, because they only transfer to Thunder only. But they leech other clients

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    @Reasoned Mind \\ neo.styles|sSG

    Your a turd a stinky fffat turd. Go sniff a jockstrap you poophead. You love patting boys butts. You love patting boys butts, butt, butt patter. Your a perv and a loser and a stinkyy turd.

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  • William

    Not surprising at all. Actually, I’m using Thunder all the time. The reason? Because it’s the fastest. I tried uTorrent, BitComet and some others, but no one can even catch up with Thunder. I don’t know why, but that’s what I got. So I stick with Thunder. Besides the BT download, it also speeds up your HTTP downloads (I would say most of them) up to the limit of your bandwidth.

  • Denis

    Is fastest – but only in China … hehe

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  • Adam

    I don’t quite agree…it’s only big in China, because China itself is big…lol.

    When I browse my peer lists, the most common clients I run across are BitTorrent, Utorrent and Azureus…

    Azureus probably being most popular followed by utorrent……..which AFAIK, is now really, BitTorrent/Mainline…?

  • Denis

    150)
    yes, sure. Bittorent client (Mainline) and uTorrent are by same brand
    … Bittorrrent Inc. (seat in USA)

    However,,, Vuze (Azureus) i a half open source and a half proprietary by
    Vuze Inc.

    That (all 3 clients) is questionable about privacy and safety.

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  • Dccafe

    i used utorrent only when i am downloading “english torrents”
    Chinese subbed anime > Bitcomet
    English(en.subbed) movies > utorrent
    Games,asian movies, Music > ed2k(verycd.com)

    as for softwares,M$ OS…HTTP ==.==

    i use thunder only when a torrent has no seeders… since anyone who uses the “official thunder” shares whatever they have downloaded…
    **it does not scan you hard drive
    **there are patches or modded version out their that disable uploading of downloaded files.
    **thunder has it own servers that saves all popular p2p files…
    paid vip members can download them like http.

    by the way… even the chinese p2p communities ban/dislike thunder…
    simply because the way it shares…
    eg.it wouldn’t upload to a utorrent client unless there are no more thunder client in the list…

  • okman

    Recently I came across a torrent search engine – http://edics.info which claim that has access to more than 5 million torrents . My question is – what do we need trackers for than???

  • Free Citizen Of The World

    It is no surprise at all unless you are insular.

    What has happened to torrentfreak, looking through recent articles I see a lot of lazy, incompetent, bias, poorly researched reporting more like tabloid sensationalizm that journalizm, & according to circulating rumors most people bearing the brunt are not getting a right of reply even afterwards, let alone a chance to comment before the article is published as should be the hallmark of good journalizm.

    Shame, shame , shame.

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  • Test

    just testing

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