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TVShack Admin Fights Extradition To U.S. On Movie Piracy Charges

Three weeks ago the 23-year-old UK-based administrator of a TV show and movie links site was arrested by police. The site, referred to only as TVShack, could be one of three domains of which two are already controlled by the US government after their seizure as part of Operation in Our Sites. Following his detention in the UK’s largest prison, the admin is now fighting his extradition to the U.S. with the help of Gary McKinnon’s lawyer.

While the second phase of the U.S government’s Operation in Our Sites grabbed the most headlines when it targeted around 80 domains in November 2010, the roots of the program began several months earlier.

The first phase of the operation took place in June 2010 and resulted in the seizure of seven domains including TVShack.net, Movies-Links.TV, FilesPump.com, Now-Movies.com, PlanetMoviez.com, ThePirateCity.org and ZML.com.

Despite its domain seizure TVShack proved resilient, skipping from its .net to a new .cc domain and becoming fully operational within days. In time though, that URL was also taken over by the U.S. authorities.

However, some time later another TVShack site appeared, TVShack.bz. While some insisted it was the old site back under a new name, others claimed it to be a mere clone operated by different people. Whatever the truth, a disturbing picture is emerging around one of those sites, one that attempts to sidestep established copyright law and raises worrying jurisdiction issues.

Richard O’Dwyer is a computer science undergraduate studying at a university in the north of England. Originally from Chesterfield, the 23-year-old now stands accused of being the administrator of TVShack. It is not clear whether he is accused of running .bz, .cc, .net, or a combination of the three, but nevertheless he now faces the fight of his life.

Despite TVShack’s status as a links database that never hosted any copyright material, 3 weeks ago O’Dwyer was arrested by police and detained at Wandsworth Prison, the UK’s largest detention facility.

And now in a quite shocking development, authorities are demanding O’Dwyer’s extradition across the Atlantic to face copyright infringement charges in the United States.

Ben Cooper, a lawyer specializing in human rights and extradition issues, is representing O’Dwyer. He says that since O’Dwyer is a UK resident who ran a links site with a non-US server, any trial should take place on home territory, not thousands of miles away in the United States.

Cooper, of Doughty Street Chambers, is also representing alleged hacker Gary McKinnon in his fight against extradition to the U.S. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

This week, following a preliminary hearing before City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court in London, the notion that O’Dwyer should be extradited to the U.S. was described as “madness” by his mother.

“We have a perfectly good justice system in the UK – why aren’t we using it in cases such as this?”

According to David Cook, a lawyer who successfully defended an alleged uploader to the now-defunct music tracker OiNK and an administrator of the BitTorrent forum FileSoup, the answer to that question may be found in a case which came to its conclusion last year.

“In 2010, the rights-holder groups attempted the prosecution of the TV-Links website. As the name suggests, this site was effectively a directory to TV programmes that sourced programmes uploaded to other video websites, such as YouTube. The users of the site would find a TV show they liked, and then placed a link on TV-Links to other sites which were hosting episodes of that show,” Cook told TorrentFreak in a comment.

“It was argued that TV-Links was operating as a ‘mere conduit’ and that an EC based defence was open to them. Directive 2000/31/EC of the European Parliament defines an ‘Information Society Services’ as one that offers a service normally provided for remuneration, at a distance, by means of electronic equipment and for the processing and the storage of data, and at the individual request of a recipient of a service.”

“This is a definition so dense as to be almost impenetrable,” Cook adds. “It was held in TV-Links that this definition covered their site.”

The ruling by Judge Ticehurst in favor of TV-Links meant that its operators had a complete defense in criminal proceedings in England and Wales for their linking to other web sites. They walked free.

All indications are that TVShack, in all of its guises, operated in a similar manner.

“We have been waiting to see how the rights-holder prosecutors would react [to the failed cases against TV-Links, OiNK and FileSoup] and have now been given the clearest sign,” Cook notes.

“The extradition of O’Dwyer is being sought and, if successful, he would be moved from a country in which he has a defence, to one in which such a defence would not apply,” says Cook. “Is this the sole purpose of the extradition?”

O’Dwyer has yet to enter a plea. He is set to appear in court again on September 12th.

Update: A petition was started to stop Richard O’Dwyer’s extradition.

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  • Anonymouse

    all i can say is.. WTF!?

    • Anonymous

      WTF is right. “Crimes” (yeah, apparently hyperlinking to external sites that MAY contain copyrighted content is apparently a crime) committed in the UK can now be tried in the US? As a US citizen I have to say, I don’t want my tax dollars wasted on prosecuting someone who lives in another country & has not committed any crimes on US soil unless it is a matter of National Security, which this CLEARLY isn’t.

  • Guest22

    “America, FUCK YEAH! / Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah”

    • Guest

      I get the feeling that people are liking this comment for 2 different reasons.

      • Alux

        it’s a team america quote :)

        • Anon

          /b/ ?

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2a7usxg

  • Paladin Of Truth

    Hahaha, that crazy Richard O’Dwyer! Unfortunately for him, he now faces extradiction to the USA, where illegally sharing copyrighted files is treated much more severely than in the UK. While it maight, for some, seem unfair for him to face extradiction, we must alway bear in mind that his criminal activities have damaged America’s Creative Industries much more severely than UK’s. It therefore stands to reason that he ought to be proscecuted in America, rather than at home, so to say. ;)
    Ultimately, let us hope that this will ultimately serve as an aditional fair warning to those intent on carrying out illegal filesharing, and help the global Creative Industry gain a much needed respite, and by extention, the Public as well as all of us!

  • Paladin Of Truth

    Hahaha, that crazy Richard O’Dwyer! Unfortunately for him, he now faces extradiction to the USA, where illegally sharing copyrighted files is treated much more severely than in the UK. While it maight, for some, seem unfair for him to face extradiction, we must alway bear in mind that his criminal activities have damaged America’s Creative Industries much more severely than UK’s. It therefore stands to reason that he ought to be proscecuted in America, rather than at home, so to say. ;)
    Ultimately, let us hope that this will ultimately serve as an aditional fair warning to those intent on carrying out illegal filesharing, and help the global Creative Industry gain a much needed respite, and by extention, the Public as well as all of us!

    • http://www.mafiaafire.com MAFIAAFire

      If you are going to troll… try being a bit more subtle.

    • http://www.mafiaafire.com MAFIAAFire

      If you are going to troll… try being a bit more subtle.

    • http://www.mafiaafire.com MAFIAAFire

      If you are going to troll… try being a bit more subtle.

    • Zzzzz

      That comment is so utterly retarded it can only be a troll.

      • Anonymous

        Paladin of Truth/Jack Murdock/Neostyles/Reasoned Mind/lakawak/Eric Boehm.

        He’s just trying to collect a paycheck, dude… Just because he does it by smearing MAFIAA propaganda all over filesharing communities… No wait, that’s actually pretty revolting. So yeah, fuck him.

        • Zzzzz

          That’s still not going to stop me calling him out.

        • Anon

          would not be another copyright-mafiiaa jew from the united states of asshat again, now would it.

          wir mussen..

    • Buncha Bull

      Are you one of the jobless from ACS: Law?
      Not satisfied with the screwing you already got?

    • Paladin Of Truth

      Hello, MAFIAAFire, Zzzzz, and Buncha Bull! As confirmed by my reputation on this, as well as many other on-line commuties, I am not interested in “trolling”; nor, for that matter, am I avaiable to exchange ad hominems! ;) My only interest here, as well as in any other of my postings, is to expose and defend the Truth, and I always do so by means of honest and open debate. If you disagree with any of my views, please, by all means, feel free to discuss and dispute them! I, however, shall not engage in petty mud-slinging, and I know my followers (as well as my more reasonable adversaries ;) ) will understand why.

      • wut

        Lolfuckoff.

      • UncleFkr

        But you missed the point. The truth is that he wasn’t sharing any copyrighted material anyway – it was a links site. So he was merely a conduit to material already available online elsewhere at sites such as YouTube, much the same as a page of search results is. The reality here is that the site he’s allegedly responsible for, which in itself has yet to be ascertained, is a forum. It’s identical to any other open forum on the web. Users can post to that forum and those posts can contain hyperlinks, nothing more.

        What you’re suggesting is that an administrator of any forum should be held accountable for any links posted to any copyrighted material anywhere else on the web.

        And it’s because of this patently flawed logic and the obvious misunderstanding of the nature of both copyright law and how it pertains to hyperlinks (a fundamental technology of the web itself) that marks you out as a troll.

        So yes, obvious troll is obvious, now do what our friend ‘wut’ here says and ‘fuckoff’ as you seem to have no valid point to make.

      • Rabbit80

        OK – I’ll take issue with your statements then.

        ” Unfortunately for him, he now faces extradiction to the USA, where illegally sharing copyrighted files is treated much more severely than in the UK.”

        If you actually read the article, the sites in question did not share any illegal material. They were simply a series of links to content hosted on other sites. This has been found to be legal in the UK where the defendant lived and operated the sites from. Under UK law, no crime was committed. How severely the copyright offences are treated in the US is irrelevant.

        “While it maight, for some, seem unfair for him to face extradiction, we must alway bear in mind that his criminal activities have damaged America’s Creative Industries much more severely than UK’s.”

        At this stage, it has not been proven that he committed any offence – your assertion that his criminal activities have damaged Americas creative industries is therefore a blatant lie – there is neither proof of criminal activities or of damages, nor is there any proof that the individual facing extradition is responsible in any way. That is the purpose of the courts – to prove these allegations.

        “It therefore stands to reason that he ought to be proscecuted in America, rather than at home, so to say. ;)”

        It stands to reason that if he operates a website from the UK that he should face charges in the UK if there is sufficient evidence that a crime has actually been committed. If I go to Amsterdam and smoke pot, should I be extradited to the Dubai to stand trial there?

        “Ultimately, let us hope that this will ultimately serve as an aditional fair warning to those intent on carrying out illegal filesharing, and help the global Creative Industry gain a much needed respite, and by extention, the Public as well as all of us!”

        Ultimately this will help further push the file sharing community underground using secure anonymous means. This will simply make the tracking of illegal online activities harder where genuine crimes have been committed. This will cost the public more as taxes are raised in order to try and combat the problem – which will ultimately be impossible. If copyright was reformed in the opposite direction and the terms were shorter, the public would gain massively from the release of thousands of works into the public domain. And if the creative industries stopped overcharging for their property, and lived up to their title and came up with some “creative” business models, they would most likely make more profit than ever before. People are sick of being restricted on how they can access content and often use the easiest means they can find. piracy is currently the best option a lot of the time. The sites like the one in the article are popular because they aggregate the content from all over the internet and make it accessible from a single place – If I wanted to watch a particular football stream for example, I might have to check half a dozen legal sites, find out that it will cost me £10 to view, sign up for an account (and give my personal details as well as card details to yet another company who I don’t know are secure) – and at the end of all that the quality might be crap – or I could go to a TV-Sports linking website and click through a few links until I find one I am happy with!

        Your arguments are based on the fallacy that the FBI / Content Industries / Police are always correct and the accused is guilty before he has even stood trial. That attitude is the same attitude we had in the Medieval ages when we would drown people in order to prove that they were not witches! There is a reason we changed the presumption of guilt to being innocent until proven guilty – it is one of the reasons we can say we live in a civilized world!

        • http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

          Actually, the US claims the right to prosecute its own citizens for committing certain crimes abroad, such as [b]sex tourism[/b]. Moreover, countries claim the right to tax income of their own nationals even though the income is earned abroad.

      • I am a sausage not a hotdog

        Surely nothing you said no one cares about and the only truth is there was no crime!! The crimes committed is that the us politicians are crooks and the major six are crooks aswell.
        I’m sure you lust in some fantasy world that anything you say people care about!! Fair use is not a crime it’s written in the copyright laws.Every time smartass know it all’s like yourself think they have the answer.
        We have the answer too.”FAIR USE”!! We the people of the world must bring back the “PUBLIC DOMAIN”! I’m not afraid of writing to politicians!! As a matter of fact I’ve become friends with a few.The more you keep telling government the more they see the transparency eventually “karma” will kick in.
        Living a lie and lying to the world will eventually catch up to you.If the industry wants pirates to stop file sharing stop making films and music.Stop writing books and making software and games and let’s just go back to the stone age.

      • Anonymous

        “”My only interest here, as well as in any other of my postings, is to expose and defend the Truth,”"

        OK. so do you defend the TRUTH that…..

        Anything that can be copied at near zero cost is practically worthless .
        (real world here , value is given to rare stuff )
        Will you defend that truth ?

        next…. (and a therefore , leading type of next )

        The Truth of filesharing , is that people are sharing worthless data. ( FACT )
        Now is it right to have laws that LIMIT people from freely sharing worthless data.
        Surely the TRUTH is … it is a terrible act on people , to punish them for sharing worthless data ?
        …………………………………………….

        “”however, shall not engage in petty mud-slinging,”"

        What a double sided statement….

        Take the moral high ground… while calling the opposition’s actions as “petty mud-slinging”

        …………………………………………….

        “”my followers”" . lol

        Who are you…… Jesus ?

        Take your PRO Artificial Scarcity , Artificial Property , Artificial Criminality loving ass off , out of here and stop trolling on behalf of ££$$$£ V people…

        Abusive ad hominem for you…

        DON’T listen to Paladin Of Truth….everything he says..he is paid to say … TROLL

      • Quinn

        Your use of capital letters bothers me.

        As does your religious-sounding banter.

        rustupid?

      • Dd

        just go away. ur not welcome here

      • IDIOCRACY

        I wonder why USA is not recognizing the international court of justice and still tries to impose their law on others.
        Because they clearly have no respect for the laws of other countries, why should anybody else in the world have respect for theirs?
        It is unlawfull to USA law to prosecute a USA militairy person in another country for breaking international law and they (USA government) said that if so happens they will invade that county (Netherlands = residential of International Court of Justice) to free their soldier, even when he commited genocide.

        In other words USA tells the rest of the world that they will get you if you break US law even when not in US, but the other way around is forbidden and will not be allowed by US.

        If you don’t see that this is wrong, then abandon all hope for your planet and your soul. (and then people ask themselves in US why all the world hates americans and some start to blow up americans. I won’t but I definetly understand why someone wants these hypocrites off the face of the earth.

        • I miss freedom

          Some of us Americans wonder about this as well.

        • StevO

          Yeah, some of us Americans do wonder the same thing.

      • Guest

        Note: all of you calling Paladin a troll have succeeded only in making him the most talked about thing in this comments section. You have fed the troll.
        FAIL!

      • Anonymous

        “As confirmed by my reputation on this”

        Umm… As confirmed by your reputation on Torrentfreak, you are a shill hired by the copyright industry to help pollute the internet with their shit. Your interest is in tearing down or burying the actual Truth, and dressing up lies to look like the Truth(kudos for capitalizing it. Is that supposed to fool us into thinking you have any respect at all for it?).

        “Honest, open debate”. Ha! That’s a good one. Your idea of honest and open debate is to write some bullshit, then when somebody challenges you on it, write the same bullshit again. Even if they just debunked it. Your style of debate is an unholy marriage of “broken record” and “brick wall”. Oh, and “illiterate” because you never really read the article your commenting on your the replies you receive.

        You’re so awesome.

        • Anonymous

          ” and “illiterate” because you never really read the article your ”

          irony fail. Or should that be irony win?

      • StevO

        All tv programs have to do is product placement and its a done deal. get over the BS crap you have inherently stuck in your head.

      • StevO

        All tv programs have to do is product placement and its a done deal. get over the BS crap you have inherently stuck in your head.

      • Strobble

        Bath Salts will destroy your brain….

    • Really?

      The point you seem to be missing is that his alleged activities have been deemed legal by the British courts. Imagine a world in which someone could be extradited for doing something legal where they live to a country where that activity is considered illegal. It’d be a total mess.

      • Bakapinkuu

        No, you guys don’t get it… Obama finally grew a pair and is sneaking through a test case that, when it’s reciprocated, will allow Switzerland to extradite Bush on torture and other war crimes charges.

        … yeah, I know. But isn’t it a nice fantasy?

      • Bakapinkuu

        No, you guys don’t get it… Obama finally grew a pair and is sneaking through a test case that, when it’s reciprocated, will allow Switzerland to extradite Bush on torture and other war crimes charges.

        … yeah, I know. But isn’t it a nice fantasy?

      • Guest

        USA are going to extradite all British citizens aged 18-20 for underaged drinking of alcohol

      • Guest

        USA are going to extradite all British citizens aged 18-20 for underaged drinking of alcohol

        • Hg

          only those drinking bud or JD

    • AnonymousIQ

      While i am by no means a pirate i am someone who appreciates justice. Extraditing someone from the UK for violating a US law when the law was broken where the US has no sovereignty is not only wrong but morally reprehensible. Its akin to an American shooting and killing a Brit on US soil in a state that has self defense rights and then being extradited to the UK to face charges of murder when in fact no law in the US was broken.

      It is not our place as Americans to dictate what may or may not be against a law in another country. If I were to have sex with your wife I wouldnt be extradited to Iran to be stoned and neither would your wife. If I were to play the part of a thief and steal 10000$ i wouldnt be extradited to another country to have my hand cut off or face a jail term.

      My point is, is that just because a US law was broken by someone that has nothing to do the the US doesnt mean they need to be tried here. He is a UK citizen who may or may not have violated UK law, via a server he operated that was NOT in the US, a place i might had he also holds no office nor legal responsibilities of any kind. Thusly we as americans have NO RIGHT what so ever to remove him from his sovereign country.

      It should also be noted; Legally speaking, extradition is defined as “the official surrender of an alleged criminal by one state or nation to another having jurisdiction over the crime charged; the return of a fugitive from justice, regardless of consent, by the authorities where the fugitive is found.” International extradition is generally “in response to a demand made by the executive of one nation on the executive of another nation. This procedure is generally regulated by treaties.” Black’s Law Dictionary 623 (8th ed. 2004).

      Also; Extradition law as it relates to the United States is particularly complex, since the United States does not fall under a simplifying bilateral regional treaty like many nations in Europe, nor has it ratified the treaty creating the International Criminal Court (ICC).

      Furthermore; Normally, extradition may be sought only for an extraditable offense (that is, an offense included in an extradition treaty between the requesting state and surrendering state). See generally: Spatola v. United States, 925 F.2d 615, 619 (2d.Cir.1991) and Melia v. United States, 667 F.2d 300, 304 (2d Cir.1981). The determination of whether an offense is extraditable can be made in two possible ways. The most stringent method requires that the offense charged be identical to an offense listed in the extradition treaty. Alternatively, a nation can require that the acts contributing to the charge could sustain some other charge listed in the treaty under the laws of the surrendering nation, obviating the need for an identical treaty offense (see discussion of dual criminality, below). United States v. Medina, 985 F.Supp. 397 (S.D.N.Y., 1997); see also: In re Dubroca Y Paniagua, 33 F.2d 181 (D.C.Pa. 1929) (upholding extradition for seduction, a crime in both countries); see generally: Spatola, 925 F.2d at 619. In Medina, defendant Francisco Medina moved to dismiss his charges on the grounds that they were not covered under the extradition treaty between the United States and the Dominican Republic. Citing Johnson v. Browne (205 U.S. 309 at 316, 1907), the court further held that a foreign government’s decision to extradite an individual in response to a request from the United States is not subject to review by United States courts. In Johnson, defendant Addison Johnson was captured in Canada, and indicted for conspiring to defraud the United States, and for importing Japanese silks without paying the full legal duty required. However, only the first offense fell within Canada’s extradition treaty. As a result, the court found that Johnson could only be held for the extraditable offense. One court even went as far as to grant an extradited and incarcerated criminal “reasonable time to leave the country before he is arrested upon the charge of any other crime committed previous to his extradition.” United States v. Rauscher, 119 U.S. 407, 424 (1886).

      I somehow doubt copyright is covered in extradition treaties, and even then it would have to violate the laws of the country in which its taking place.

      • Ven

        Copyright may not be, but I am assuming based on all of the Homeland Security stuff we have seen in the last few months that they are trying to extradite him on a charge of counterfeiting. If they can show that he is somehow turning a sizable profit from his site, they can bend and twist words and try to get him for all kinds of crimes.

        Or they are really stupid…

    • Anonymous

      If he is extradited don’t be surprised if U.S. tourists aren’t targeted for reprisals.

      His crime was committed in the UK that is where he should stands trial.

      • Guest

        If he is extradited then USA can add British terrorists to the list of terrorists that are making it their lifes work (and their childrens and grandchildrens life work) to seek revenge on the worlds biggest bullies!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

          The problem is I don’t think violent crime matters so much to TPB as do this copyright crap. Note filesharing admins getting longer sentences than many American rapists and some murderers.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

          The problem is I don’t think violent crime matters so much to TPB as do this copyright crap. Note filesharing admins getting longer sentences than many American rapists and some murderers.

    • Guest

      Unless he is or was an american citizen, americrap has no rights for his extradition and should STFU otherwise China might do it for them :)

    • Tiger97a

      i guess you are sbeing paid to do this and if i came by and offered you more money then you would change your tune, so i understand why you say what you say but you are so out in left field that you couldn’t catch a ball with the greasy hands that you have. this is just a company with money and paying for laws and people to help them and soon somebody will be hacked and it will all come out in the wash. secrets do not stay that away for long and it will come out.

    • Faek

      Shut Up, Nuff Sai

    • gae

      LOL yes that makes sense….
      And under this same reasoning, as guns are illegal to posses in the UK then every gun owning american should be extradited to the uk to face charges of posessing a firearm.

      And don’t dare speak out against this because then you will also be extradited to china and jailed for breaking their laws on free speech.

    • The Paladin Of Truth

      Hello, everybody! I must admit that even though I have been active in this and other on-line communities for a long time, I have seldom witnessed — let alone been victim of — such an intense and pointless defamation. It sinks my spirit to learn so many of you are simply content to berate and drown down a those who share a dissenting standpoint. And of course, this behavior does not lend itself to the cultivation of a honest, fair arena of discussion.
      While it does me a discredit to celebrate such callous ad hominens, I shall utter a few words in response, if only so that those who have looked at me for guidance will not few disheartened.
      As anybody who have been part of the Community (and is bound by honesty ;) ) will attest to, in those years I have built a steel-solid reputation as an impartial, non-partisan contributor. I have always defended and up-held the sides with whom lies the Truth, as supported by Facts. I am paid by no body; I serve no agenda — short of defending and propagating the Truth.
      There were, however, some who graciously and reverentiably opted to embrace the ideal of coherent, proper discussion, and for that I congratulate you. ANoiXioNA and others have put forth arguments (although we certainly could stand to lose some of those barbs on our tongues, could we not? ;) ) which I plan on addressing soon. Unfortunately, I currently have little in the fashion of time, and it would be ghastly unflattering and undeserving to respond with anything short of well-researched and checked Facts. As such, I shall only address those topics at a later time to-day. With hope and well-fortune, the vitriol currently tainting this debate will have been diluted by others who share the same perspectives as mine — for they are, indeed, as I intend to show, the Truth.

      • IDIOCRACY

        I am looking forward to that, I really wish you could explain why something that is NOT a crime in my country, should generate a lawsuit in another country under other laws and other law system.
        In this kind of retorics (in your words) it is forbidden for you to post on this forum because then you are aiding criminals according to your law, this site has advertisements for bittorrent client and shows links to links to links with copyrighted material. your comments generate traffic and so aiding to generate revenue for the advertisers and links to links that link to links.

        • Ven

          It greatly depends on the infractions being made. International law is a giant crapshoot when it comes to conflict of laws, but generally if there is evidence that the defendant is engaging in internationally-regarded illegal acts (such as counterfeiting with distribution) then the court won’t have an issue handing them over.

          In this case, I would look at the evidence compiled against TVShack and it’s admin(s) lined up against the Intellectual Property Rights Program of INTERPOL – that would be a good indication of the odds of extradition.

      • Lolwut

        You have no reputation, nobody has ever heard of you.

        Please be quiet, adults are speaking here.

        • Nookie134

          Actually, he kind of does… If you google “paladin of truth” plus some other keywords like torrent or piracy you’ll find posts from him going as far as 2007. He always uses the same weird capitalization and words. To his credit, it seems he usually does discuss his arguments, even if most of them would feel right at home in the loonie bin.
          IMO he’s either a very peculiar and determined troll, or he’s completely off his rocks and is genuinely looking to debate his pipe arguments. Honestly, I don’t know which is sadder…. =

        • Nookie134

          Actually, he kind of does… If you google “paladin of truth” plus some other keywords like torrent or piracy you’ll find posts from him going as far as 2007. He always uses the same weird capitalization and words. To his credit, it seems he usually does discuss his arguments, even if most of them would feel right at home in the loonie bin.
          IMO he’s either a very peculiar and determined troll, or he’s completely off his rocks and is genuinely looking to debate his pipe arguments. Honestly, I don’t know which is sadder…. =

      • https://thepiratebay.org/user/manOtor/ manOtor

        Hello Paladin Of Truth :)!

        I honestly respect you and your opinion and I applaud you for posting, discussing and defending it here.
        But the same goes for you as for anyone else here:
        don’t feed the trolls – they will shut up eventually!
        Half of the post I am answering to was completely unnecessary and not part of the discussion – in any decent forum you’d have been modcalled already ;).

        Also I would suggest you’d try to consider that one’s truth can be another one’s lie.
        Truth really is a matter of perspective, hence there is no “one and only” Truth. Even facts can’t dismiss this problem.

        Last but not least I really would like to read what your opinion is on AnonymousIQ’s arguments.

        Cheers and respectfully yours,
        manOtor

      • M8R-0em6ry

        I am paid by no body; I serve no agenda — short of defending and propagating the Truth.

        Unfortunately you are not that good at lying since the way you write and the length of your comments make it pretty obvious that you are definitely being paid by some type of “body”. Also, you sound like a very old man, which you probably are. My guess: >= 80. Just look at the sentences and the words that you are using. Or are you just using trying to sound smart? If that’s the case, then you have failed miserably.

        Anyway, about the “proper discussion” part you mentioned, this shouldn’t be up for discussion in the first place. This is, as the guy’s mother said, “madness”. And if you or anyone else thinks otherwise, then you should all be kicked out of this planet. Because it is creatures like you who are preventing humanity’s progress.

      • Noone

        Do me a favour Paladin go and learn english its obvious your not foreign because its not broken english which just leads me to think you are as dumb & stupid as your statements are.

        Come back when you can string a proper sentence together & make it legible then we’ll debate. Until then your fair game for the (admittedly sometimes idiotic) put downs you face here so get used to them.

        • Serotonin.

          “Do me a favour Paladin go and learn english its obvious your not foreign”

          Wow. Just, er, wow.

          I don’t agree with the majority of Paladin’s opinion, to my knowledge, I believe that Mr. O’Dwyer hasn’t technically broken any laws, merely providing links, and is being used as a scapegoat by the U.S, in a time where the film industry are suffering due to piracy, and after all, it’s the big guns and their money who call the shots, HOWEVER, he is entitled to his opinion, and the impact of piracy crime is undeniable. (Even if we’re all guilty of it).

          But either way, let’s all stop bickering about one man’s opinion for so god damn long, it’s just petty and beside the point.

      • http://Megarelease.net MaryM

        You are a delusional piece of shit and you know it… Must be hard to look in the mirror…

      • Yourmom

        pull the d1ck out of your mouth, i can hear you choking on it

      • Yourmom

        pull the d1ck out of your mouth, i can hear you choking on it

      • Rabbit80

        I would have enjoyed you posting again – but it seems you know how wrong you are.

        TBH, you sound like a very religious person – its the little things like the capital T you insist on putting on the word truth – and your insistence that what you speak is the truth. I have news for you – religion is bullshit as well! All this truth crap is a form of brainwashing – and you sir, have had most intelligent thought washed clean away!

    • Mikey_c

      learn to spell you inbred twat

    • StevO

      Heres where your dead wrong. The TV industry has survived for 50 some years without the internet being around. If anything at ALL I would say that those TV programs are actually MORE popular than ever before WITH the internet. Television sells advertisement BEFORE they air. So the moneys done been made long before it hits the internet.

    • Noone

      paladin of Truth – go fuck yourself your sanctimoniousness prick..

    • Paladin of Absurdity

      > While it maight, for some, seem unfair for him to face extradiction, we must alway bear in mind that his criminal activities have damaged America’s Creative Industries much more severely than UK’s. It therefore stands to reason that he ought to be proscecuted in America, rather than at home, so to say. ;)

      Next: UK resident gets extradited to China, for criticizing the Chinese government (a crime in China). It stands to reason that he gets extradited to China, because that’s where his crimes have caused the most damage.

      • Ven

        There are international laws regarding counterfeiting, duplication, and distribution of intellectual property for profit. The USA and the UK both subscribe to many of the same international laws.

        There is no agreed-upon international law regarding calling the Chinese names (at least not that I’ve seen taken seriously in the Western Hemisphere).

      • Ven

        There are international laws regarding counterfeiting, duplication, and distribution of intellectual property for profit. The USA and the UK both subscribe to many of the same international laws.

        There is no agreed-upon international law regarding calling the Chinese names (at least not that I’ve seen taken seriously in the Western Hemisphere).

    • VIKINGS

      F you dude, get the fuck out of here.

    • Strobble

      WTF are you smoking, I want some.

  • Anonymous

    Best to start moving to the Darknets In the likely event of a Insanity Shitstorm. Better to have a backup network then loose everything.

    Beef up the darknets and prepare them in the event people fall back to them.

    • Hbgay

      “loose” everything? what?

  • Ircerr

    Next, China should extradite usain freedom of speech sites since it is illegal in china.
    –iR

  • Anonnnn

    The .bz domain is a copy cat fake, unrelated the the .net and .cc domains, even looks totally different!

  • Thegreatwall

    The USA needs to be isolated from the rest of the normal world… Let’s start building a wall around the USA and make sure their insanity is contained!

    That the Hollywood Fat cats can put American file sharers in jail by lining the pockets of American politicians is already bad enough BUT using American politicians to put citizens of UK in jail is utterly ludicrous !!!

    I can only hope that the a Republican president gets elected to replace Obama and finish the job of bankrupting the USA that G.W. Bush started! Once the USA is bankrupt, nobody will care what they say!

    • Anon

      Lol, USA bankrupt??? we’re only 4 trillion in debt and growing….. last time I owed 4 trillion I got a few phone calls. lol

      • Anonymous

        I read it’s nearer 12 trillion. That’s why the big rush on protecting American main export. Entertainment and instruments of death are all they make money on these days….They are, after all, spending out a lot on bribes.

        • Guest

          12 trillion is only if you count entitlement payments, which can and will be canceled long before bankruptcy is declared. As it is, people won’t ignore the U.S. even if they do default on their debt. Their military is far to strong to ignore, and they export so much food that many countries (notably including China) would face massive problems if they cut off imports of U.S. wheat and grain. American power will decrease, but they are going to remain relevant for a long, long time.

        • Noone

          Actually this a reply to guest below but due to the bad formatting on TF (soz ernesto & enigmax I truly love the site but) the amount of replys has pushed the reply button outside so it can’t be seen or clicked.

          Anyway the reply! I wouldn’t worry so much about china facing problems as china own most if not all of the debt of the USA & most other countries too, why do you think they get away with the great firewall etc Its because USA & Rest of the world cannot bring pressure to bear in case China decide they want whats owed them.

          Default on Payments WW3, Argue with there policies WW3. So diplomacy is the way they go, as for the rest of the world USA says jump you ask how high.

          Each country should return to standing on its own resources & strengths. The UK has gone downhill since importing more stuff in than it makes whole industries have all but disappeared because of cheap imports & that includes entertainment.

          The UK had a thriving movie industry which all but disappeared but is thankfully facing a small & belated come back.

          I personally wish China would call in its debts & see where that leads us.

        • Guest

          Apologies if I responded to something that was posted in the wrong area. I’ve seen that happen before.

          “Its because USA & Rest of the world cannot bring pressure to bear in case China decide they want whats owed them.”

          That’s true, but China is unable to bring that pressure because it is still reliant on the current status quo for its own improvement. China is a max of heavy industrial and agrarian economies, and it needs service economies who will buy what they produce. Without us or the U.K. they would face a temporary but powerful recession as their industries had to re shift priorities. Besides, they couldn’t demand money and expect to get it. They could collapse the value of the U.S. dollar by forcing a default, but then they’d lose their major customer and they wouldn’t see one red penny. Maintaining the trade deficit is much more in their interest.

          “Each country should return to standing on its own resources & strengths.”

          That probably wouldn’t be a good idea in the long run. Specialization is usually easier, (although each country should probably produce its own entertainment products), and having economic ties with other countries helps to greatly reduce wars and conflicts. Intra-economic dependencies aren’t bad so long as both sides share reliance. I think the U.S. and China have done a good job of sticking to this principle, as we both need each other for the moment and the immediate conceivable future. but I don’t know about countries like the U.K.

        • Ven

          @ Noone

          “I personally wish China would call in its debts & see where that leads us.”

          It would lead to a ton of new jobs in the USA, as we would no longer have a need to send production to Chinese factories. We are in debt to people who can’t afford to not be our friends. China doesn’t like us being strong, so if they had a legit chance to ruin us they would have taken it already. Same goes for most of the nations of this world.

  • Me

    Time for a 100% encrypted internet!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zack-Nelson/1287355169 Zack Nelson

    U.S. law dosen’t apply in the U.K. Thats my argement agianst his extradition.

    These copyright trolls within the government is making me feel ashamed of being an American.

  • jeager

    Note that the european convention of human rights prohibits EU member states to extridate people to nations that are known to use torture. There could be very little doubt that United States does so. Hopefully the law works this time.

    • Ven

      If the UK courts agreed to the extradition to the USA, the EU would have to step in and show the UK that the USA was in fact using torture as defined by the EU. There may be a great possibility of torture being used, but a high percentage is not a certainty, and the extradition would happen regardless.

  • Anonymous

    Tomorrows headline:

    China seeks extradition of all admins and owners who’s websites host information on the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

    Seriously?
    Links on websites that can get you extradited to the Universal Studios of America?

    I lol’d..!

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      lmao @ universal studios of America ;P

  • kapa

    This guy has posed no genuine threat to any sort of moral equilibrium, only a tiny tiny threat to a fraction of the capital of transnational companies. They are trying to use his life to make the point ‘don’t get in the way of our profits’. Its endlessly frustrating to see the big production companies painted as victims being manipulated by pirates, when every shit film they pump out if an attempt to manipulate a certain accessible demographic and an appropriate time of the year (Its early summer, anyone fancy a film with some A-list blonde shaking her ass in some comedy? maybe throw in a couple of other big actors, one cool one nerdy? something like that). Without even going in to the endless product placement (its been proven that a product woven in to the plot is less likely to be noticed and more likely to sell big).

    The notion that this guy could be made to rub shoulders with murderers for making his website is inhumane to its very core.

    • Guest

      If you hate the movies so much, why are you watching them? Do you really have nothing better to do then torrent movies you’ll hate? Go read a book.

      • Jon7272

        no i have nothing better to do lol

        • Guest

          That’s kinda sad man. Get a job, or take up a hobby, or something. At least do something that you’ll either enjoy or that you’ll profit from.

      • kapa

        I don’t watch them you fucking idiot. Im commenting on this story.

  • Janglesatwest

    I don’t get it. Even if you were OK with extraditing a man from his home country to another where the crime was not committed (which I am not) without evidence that a crime was even committed in the first place, even if you were OK with all of that, why, oh, why are you OK with the thousands of dollars it will take in court fees and lawyers and transportation of one guy who, no offense to the guy, is a nobody. He is just one guy who made site with a bunch of links. If that is legal in the UK and there is no connection to the US in any way then he should not be brought here.
    How could we even give him a fair trial with a jury of his peers when the guy as far as I know has never been to the US?
    Extradition should be left to people who have committed serious crimes. Even if you believed that a crime was committed here, how can you justify the time and money when there are more important things going on? As a US citizen, I will be very pissed off if this goes through and any of my tax dollars are used to pay for it.

    • Anonymous

      I can only imagine that Richard O’Dwyer seriously upset these Americans somehow but don’t ask me how.

      • Ven

        I would think that a successful extradition from the UK to the USA, followed by a subsequent legal pounding, would be a huge win for the IP industry if they could pull it off. Especially because the EU is a part of many of the same international agreements that the UK and USA are.

        It would send an enormous message to admins everywhere.

        • Donotreply

          “It would send an enormous message to admins everywhere. ”

          More like shift their domains to other non US friendly countries.

        • Ven

          @Donotreply

          I only see moving away from the US and it’s circle of influence as a temporary fix. It is only a matter of time before the world comes together to agree upon internet laws or nations start banning IP ranges. People who move their giant company to Nicaragua to avoid laws and taxes, proxies and VPNs that refuse to work with law enforcement (i.e. legislative ammo in regards to child porn), and other instances will give all the negative press for this to happen.

          When examples of people moving overseas to do crooked things are abundant, it will be hard to show the few “freedom-fighters” that are overseas trying to do the right thing.

  • Mainframe Xaiver

    So How is TV Shack any different then google?

    • Anon

      Well, on google you can search almost anything on the web. TV shack only searches links indexed by its users. Yes Google is TV shack the same way a square is a rectangle, but tv shack is not google.

    • Dsgfasdfasdf

      The number of paid lawyers on their books i would guess

  • http://randomstuffblogz.blogspot.com/ Fuck the feds

    This truly amazing, wtf. What I want to know is who is actually initiating the extradition of this kid – is it the UK or the US?

    • Anonymous

      That would be the US. You can be assured this is action by the current administration and possibly DoHS and ICE

      We generally do not send our people to the US just to get rid of them. That would be Australia. :-)

      • Noone

        Australia! Had to lol at that!

  • Anonymous

    Doesnt he know that the US is the World Police Authority?
    complete-privacy.no.tc

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2a7usxg

    • Anonymouse

      just shut up with your fvckin spam already.. -.-

  • Brandon-is-a-spass

    The world spins around the US of A(rse).

    This is a great example of how USA tries to impose THEIR laws on other citizens. This isn’t the first time the DOJ requires a government to extradite one of their citizens for a crime they have not committed in that particular country.

    Look at wikileaks guy…Trying to get him on a rape charge then extradite him to the US. Motherfuckers need to blow themselves up minus their hot girls because some of those politicians and law enforcement directors are sitting on someone’s pay other than the taxpayer’s.

    I hope the kid will be alright and he will walk free.

  • Wwfsdf

    *Is waiting to be extradited to China for crimes of making a profit*

  • Anonymous

    Would this mean that people who drink under the age of 21 should also get extradited to the United States because it’s illegal there? The United States is dumb, it needs a revolution.

  • Anonymous

    This is only ICE trying to get some media attention and support for their failing domain seizure scheme if you ask me.

    They obviously targeted the UK when we are well known to hand over our citizens for trail in the US of A. In this case though it seems they have gone too far when no crime was committed on American soil and our courts are well versed and able to handle copyright law.

    As to that extradition treaty between the USA and UK then that was agreed to be a two-way process. We will send you our people if you send us your people as well. Funny then that the Americans soon broke that treaty, and now refuse to hand over any of their citizens to the UK for trial, while here in the UK we still honour that treaty.

    Something clearly is not right there.

    Good luck to Richard O’Dwyer anyway. He will need it when America is going to anal the UK in bed on this one.

    • Brandon-is-a-spass

      You forgot to mention that most of these extraditions are based on the “terror” collaboration between UK and US. I wouldn’t turn a blind eye that ICE & DOJ is going to profusely point at that act thinking TVShack admin is a terrorist and get him extradited. I wouldn’t even doubt that the UK govt. would just bend over and receive it in the sugarspot.

      I honestly wouldn’t want to be the TVShack admin right now. He’s in for a shitstorm of a magnitude he hasn’t seen before. The US of A(rse) will hand him a 5 year sentence + a 250,000+ fine, let him serve most of it and then send him back to the UK after the American taxpayers have paid for the trial AND the food for this poor kid.

      Fucking government and fuckin Obama. Fuck you you democratic piece of shit and your RIAA troops

  • Blither

    Who, precisely, has asked for his extradition?

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  • Lmao at us authorities

    Fkin hell , what next ffs

    Do the usa think they can just extradite citizens from other countries even tho they have committed no crime in the country they reside ? The sooner these assholes learn that their shitty laws only cover their country the better .

    And theres no way he will be extradited to the us , under uk and eu law he has committed no crime. ;)

    • gae

      Team America, world police.
      Dosen’t matter what you do or where you live, if it breaks a US law then your guilty!

  • Sybmianna

    Google is based in the US – sue them instead!

  • RIAAtarded

    your kidding right? since when can the yanks enforce it’s laws in a foreign country on a foreign national….. and for tv? honestly guys tell me what is the difference between watching it when it airs, tivo / dvr the episode, watch it on hulu / network streams, or downloading it. I can legally watch it I pay the cable company for the right to but if I choose to download it I’m a criminal. At least 2 of those options have a digital copy of the show.

  • Bakapinkuu

    Food for thought… incidents like this were one of the primary causes of the American Revolution. People were furious over the extradition of Americans to the UK to face charges because the extradition itself was an immense punishment, even before someone was found guilty. Travel time was a b#$%^, not to mention the expenses of living abroad away from your job, trying to find a lawyer, getting back, etc. Travel time has improved, but the rest haven’t.

    Anyone want to bet on the UK growing a pair and sending the US a copy of the Declaration of Independence with that section underlined, instead of sending this guy?

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  • Haxor

    any murderers , rapists , and other really violent people to go , no solved all that crime did we …..so now a music tune gets you life in prison by keeping you locked up like a terrorist,

    hollywood = economic terrorists.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    Wait, isn’t he an alleged admin of TVShack since even that is up for debate right now?

  • Guest

    Next stop: Guantanamo.

  • copywrong

    Wow. I don’t know what to say because it’s all been said already. This is messed up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.kratz Jordan Kratz

    WTF !!! Bullshit I say.One of these days people may get pissed off enough at this government to want the 2nd American Revolution to happen.

    this is so bullshit.
    fuck off usa government.before going after guys like this why not just sentence yourselves to prison for all the money you took behind closed doors on the american public you lame asses.

  • Anonymous

    By the way the US constitution will defacto forbid the extradition of a US citizen to any other country so how come the UK gov will allow the extradition of it’s citizen to their US master?

    Does this mean that the UK government is not sovereign but under the control of the US government?

    This latest development is very very very serious! All UK citizen should consider this type of extradition demand as a declaration of war and respond accordingly.

    • Guest

      Bullshit

      U.S. Constitution, Article 4, Clause 2.

      “A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.”

      We have extradition. It is directly allowed in the Constitution, not forbidden. It took me 15 seconds to find this with Google. If Google searches are too hard for you, then don’t say anything ever again.

      • Guest

        And yeah, extradition shouldn’t apply here, but don’t claim that the U.S. doesn’t have it at all. Really freaking stupid.

      • Jon7272

        you clown he hasnt fleed from anywhere he lives in the uk he did not commit a crime in the usa and didnt flee to the uk so your coment is uterly irelevent so p off lol

      • Noone

        Last I knew the UK wasn’t a US State, well not officially anyway. So what “State” was he charged in & which “State” has he fled to?

        U.S. Constitution, Article 5,007,651, Clause 39.

        We shall count the Rest of the world as one of our States whether they are aware of it or not & therefore what we say goes.

        Learn to read the actual article before spouting garbage.

        • Guest

          Read the second post first. I already said extradition doesn’t apply here. Learn to read everything before you spout accusations that have already been answered. Jon7272, this goes for you too.

  • Haku

    This is just ridiculous. Since when does US jurisdiction apply to the whole world?!

  • Rekrul

    For years, prosecutors in the US have been using every trick in the book to try cases in regions where they think they’ll have the best luck getting a conviction, even if the so-called “crime” occurred in another state. Can’t win an obscenity case against a porn company in California? Just take the case to one of the bible southern belt states and claim that since the company will ship there, they can be judged by that community’s standards. This is the exact same thing, just on a larger scale.

    What? Did you expect law enforcement to play fair?

    • Guest

      “Can’t win an obscenity case against a porn company in California? Just take the case to one of the bible southern belt states and claim that since the company will ship there, they can be judged by that community’s standards. This is the exact same thing, just on a larger scale.”

      Citation or it didn’t happen. Besides, defense lawyers can do the same thing, trying to get a friendlier area by claiming a fair trial is impossible. It balances.

      • Rekrul

        “Citation or it didn’t happen. Besides, defense lawyers can do the same thing, trying to get a friendlier area by claiming a fair trial is impossible. It balances.”

        Look up the case of AABBS, which operated out of California. It carried a ton of sexually explicit and “deviant” material and was only available to people who paid a hefty membership fee. It was investigated by the San Jose police department and declared to be completely legal according to California’s community standards. A postal inspector from Memphis, Tennessee bought an account on the system, bought some video tapes from the owner (all legal according to CA laws), mailed him some child porn as a pretext to execute a search warrant, made copies of everything on the system, which was still completely legal by CA standards, and then brought charges against them in Tennessee, where a much more conservative jury found them guilty of federal obscenity charges.

        http://www.readon.sg/det_7676586.aspx

        There have been other such cases as well.

  • Herbert

    i would have thought that there were more pressing things for the US law enforcement to worry about than spending god knows how much to get a non US citizen to the US to stand trial over such a ridiculous charge, that took place in a totally different country where US law does not apply anyway. if this goes ahead, it shows me the complete lack of concern for UK citizens by their government, just how scared the UK government is of the US government, the lengths the US entertainment/copyright industries will go to, the amount of money they will spend to achieve what they want and how corrupt the US government is. you couldn’t make it up!

  • Gavinnorthants

    That article says it all, lets just hope that the government or judge sees that the extradition law is being abused for a minor offence under UK law.

  • Troy

    This illegal is two ways:
    1) USA doesn’t have jurisdiction over .cc domains. They are a territory of Australia Cocos (Keeling) Islands
    2) Any alleged crime would have happened in the UK

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  • Noone

    Just to address some of the concerns raised over the costs incurred through doing this you can get a flight from Manchester to USA for £300 Approx.

    But knowing the way Governments work, they’ll send 2 dozen more men than needed hire a Jumbo so no one else is aboard & have the most expensive hotel suites they can.

    So again we’re faced with the same scenario as an album costing £15 for the real deal but being fined £150,000 for pirating it. The flight should cost very little but the end bill will be enormous. Its all a money making scheme someone along the way will have there pockets lined again.

  • Anon

    Reddit says “Pirates are scumbags”

    http://i.imgur.com/3GXjo.jpg

  • John

    “This is a definition so dense as to be almost impenetrable,” Cook adds.

    UK lawyer puzzled by European Law… SHOCK… HORROR…. LOL!

    More groundbreaking updates @CopyrightSol ?
    No thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/flayman Matt Flaherty

    The “mere conduit” defence completely belies the fact that a URL is not a copyrighted work. It is a signpost to a resource, not the resource itself. The only responsibility for that resource should be with the host and/or the party who put the resource in place.

    • Ven

      If you owned a parking lot (in the USA or the UK), and you rented it out occasionally in lots to be used as a flea market, you won’t usually be held responsible for what is sold there. If you are somehow turning a profit while most of the flea market is dealing drugs, law enforcement will step in and a judge can decide that you simply must be aware of the illegal activity. At that point, you can (and often will) get screwed just as hard as the dealers themselves.

      It all comes down how hard you the admin is trying to weed out illegal activity, and what percentage of activity is found to be illicit/illegal/etc. on your signpost.

  • http://twitter.com/nza1 Grade A Kiwi

    The other thing that SHOULD be a concern for the UK government is the growing perception of American courts as kangaroo courts doing the bidding of corporates. Let’s not be shy about it….the US isn’t the home of justice and democracy anymore. It’s a plutocrats playground and peasant farm.

  • no joke

    You guys gotta be kidding…

    So the UK extradicts their own citizens??? And over FILESHARING? Shameful to say the least.

    Long live the United Kindom of the States!

    The queen is OWNED.

    • Anonymous

      And it’s not even file sharing — it’s LINKS to other sites where the files are.
      How many levels of indirectness are the fascists willing to go?
      Links to links? Links to links to links?

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  • Snorkie

    all british file-sharers should setup camp near the us embassy to protest

    extradition to the usa, a country that has the death penalty and commits more war crimes than all other countries combined, is totally messed up

    wtf is wrong with the brits that they voted for their sell-out government?
    maybe they are too busy getting drunk?

  • Snorkie

    all british file-sharers should setup camp near the us embassy to protest

    extradition to the usa, a country that has the death penalty and commits more war crimes than all other countries combined, is totally messed up

    wtf is wrong with the brits that they voted for their sell-out government?
    maybe they are too busy getting drunk?

  • HH

    Mr O’Dwyer if you read this and assuming you don’t qualify for legal aid, please set up a paypal address for legal defense donations.

  • Rancidpunk

    So maybe we should just adopt U.S. Law in the UK so that we know where we stand. Our politicians obviously aren’t going to stand up for us and since my job means breaking U.S. Law for most of the day I would like a bit of advance notice if I’m going to be the latest recruit to the US slave labour system to build fridges for Westinghouse in a US prison.
    I’m a lorry driver btw, so technically I’m driving on the wrong side of the road all day. Very worrying, perhaps I should try a career in highway robbery, or banking as it has become known, as that comes with a get out of jail free card now.

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  • Zachariah

    USA shows once again its true fascist face. I´m slowly starting to wish for another 9/11 since the first one obviously didn´t get through.

  • Zachariah

    USA shows once again its true fascist face. I´m slowly starting to wish for another 9/11 since the first one obviously didn´t get through.

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  • NUNYABUSINESS

    just shows you the power of the lobbyists in Washington that can put enough money in the pockets of politicians that they now have the balls to say to any country “WE ARE AMERICA WE DEMAND OUR LAWS BE UPHELD ABOVE YOUR OWN YOUR CITIZENS HAVE NO RIGHTS UNLESS WE SAY SO IF WE SAY SEND THEM TO USE FOR EXTREME PROSECUTION YOU DO IT NOW!!!”

    the more they do stuff like this makes you wonder why we didn’t just let japan and russia and other countries who dared to stand up to them go and see what happened as they are doing pretty much similar things just in a more subtle and progressive way

    enforcing their laws and beliefs on others and muscling their way into things that shouldn’t concern them and worshipping captitalism above all else

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  • Renci

    Why am I not surprised that the US has something to do with yet another being-over-reacted-to copyright infringement case?

  • Anonymous

    There’s only one way to stop this madness.

    Everyone has to put links to streaming TV shows on their Facebook page.

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bo.p.jensen Bo Päivinen Jensen

    “We have a perfectly good justice system in the UK – why aren’t we using it in cases such as this?”

    You are not using it, because the US does not want a perfectly good justice system for cases like this. They want a system where judges are not protecting justice, but American interrests.
    And where corporate interrests are more important than the rule of law.

  • Guest

    You yanks have some serious fucking problems. Get your politicians under control will you.

  • Clare nce

    it would suck to be him ._.

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