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UFC Set To Beat Up Internet Pirates, RIAA-Style

In December 2009, Ultimate Fighting Championship CEO Lorenzo Fertitta testified at a hearing of the US House Judiciary Committee, claiming that the UFC is losing millions to online piracy. Now, in an RIAA-style escalation, the company says it will not only start suing sites, but also individual downloaders.

In 1993, the first Ultimate Fighting Championship aired. With no weight classes and virtually no rules (even head butts and groin shots were allowed) for some the violence was too much. Others, on the other hand, simply couldn’t get enough.

UFC 1, as it was later numbered, was a 86,500 buy pay-per-view hit, ensuring the originally intended one-off was repeated over and over. By UFC 12, however, the controversy generated by the events was reaching fever pitch. They were banned in dozens of US states and dropped by the country’s major pay-per-view distributor.

Many, especially the millions in the largely untapped international audience, turned to piracy to stay in touch, with VHS videos of the events passed around among the passionate and growing fanbase.

After introducing more rules banning the most frowned upon fighting techniques and mandating the use of gloves, the UFC was back on course to bring in the money, but by late 2000 it was all going wrong.

Then in 2001, casino moguls Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta stepped in and saved the UFC from bankruptcy with a $2m buyout. It was to be a golden investment.

Mainstream success for the UFC came on the back of the TV series ‘The Ultimate Fighter’ and the huge following it created. UFC 52 in 2005 generated more than 300,000 pay-per-view buys, doubling the previous best audience, with UFC 57 climbing to more than 400,000.

In 2006, things exploded. UFC 60 pulled in 620,000, UFC 61 clocked up 775,000, with UFC 66 generating a massive 1 million buys on pay-per-view.

Labeled by Time Magazine as “the fastest growing sports brand in the United States,” in 2007 it was reported by Forbes that the UFC was now worth a staggering $1 billion.

Despite this incredible success story and the huge wealth that accompanied it, in December 2009 UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta testified at a hearing of the US House Judiciary Committee on how piracy on the Internet affects live broadcasting. He claimed that his company is losing millions of dollars to the phenomenon.

“Just last month, the broadcast of UFC 106 from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada, had over 271 unauthorized streams with over 140,000 views, and those are the ones that our anti-piracy team and consultants identified,” Fertitta reported. “There were likely more streams that we simply couldn’t find.”

Fertitta criticized sites like Justin.tv for carrying the streams, with ESPN Executive Vice President Ed Durso going on to name others involved including UstreamTV, LiveStream, TVU, channelsurfing.net, adthe.net, Sopcast, TVAnts, and myp2p.eu.

While UFC 104 pulled in a very respectable 450,000 buys, at just 350,000 the figures for UFC 106 had proven a disappointment, which is probably why the company singled out that event as a victim of piracy. Fertitta didn’t mention them, but other factors had affected the sales.

Ex-WWE star Brock Lesnar was due to fight at the event and had to pull out with illness and the replacement fight clearly didn’t mean enough for people to hand over around $50 to see it. With UFC 105 having aired free on TV the week before, casual fans had perhaps seen enough fighting for one month.

With a great fight card at UFC 107, however, it was good times revisited with pay-per-view buys rocketing to 620,000. Good product, good sales.

But according to the company, these pay-per-view buys aren’t generating enough money for the UFC. In a new interview, UFC President Dana White has confirmed that his company is readying a legal assault on sites offering unauthorized streams of their content.

For a company of their size, no-one should be surprised at this development. However, the next revelation will have eyebrows raising all over. The UFC will now, RIAA-style, go after individuals who pirate their content online.

“When people start going to jail,” says White, “people will stop doing it.”

After trying the cease and desist route in dealing with illicit content, White, who is famous for not being able to speak a sentence without cursing, says UFC are ready for the next level.

“It’s going to be a battle, man,” he said. “It’s going to be a battle, but I’m ready to (expletive) fight,” he said. “We’re gonna go after them, we’re gonna go after them hard, and we’re gonna hurt em.”

Lawrence Epstein, general legal counsel for the UFC, said the UFC could subpoena sites in order to gain the IP address of people who are illegally downloading and sharing UFC events.

Bizarrely, Dana White acknowledges that suing sites and individuals will cost a hell of a lot of money, more in fact than the UFC claim to lose from piracy.

“(Piracy) hasn’t cost us anything compared to what it’s going to cost us to go after these guys. It’s gonna cost us a lot of money, but guess what – it’s gonna cost them a lot of money. It’s gonna get to the point where it’s like, you know what, (expletive) it, maybe we shouldn’t pirate MMA any more,” he explains.

Interestingly, UFC commentator Joe Rogan, a long-time fan-favorite who is about to become even more popular with many viewers, doesn’t agree with proposed crackdown.

“I think that kind of stifles innovation. It stifles the direction the internet is going. I like things being out there,” he said.

“They’re trying to protect their money,” he concludes, adding, “but the internet is a strange animal.”

Having watched hundreds of hours of Jiu-Jitsu, what Dana White and the Fertitta brothers should realize by now is that for every move, there is a counter move, for every counter there is yet another counter. UFC will soon discover that it’s not possible to knock out, choke out or otherwise submit piracy on the Internet. Their opponents know all the moves – and then some.

But beyond that, forcing everyday UFC fans to tap out in court under a barrage of legal strikes is plain lunacy. This is a fight that cannot be won by force.

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  • Mr.Afghanistan

    Sue My Arse :P

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    If you do not pay attention to history… you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

    Good luck UFC morons, hope it does not take you 5+ years to see what a completely idiotic path you have chosen… like those ret@rds at the RIAA.

  • Aredt

    LOL…this guy is funny.

  • bla bla

    More money is what they want no more no less. I have to download UFC since it isnt broadcasted here. Think they have a lot of fans of UFC because of the downloads.

  • angry me

    violence solves nothing

  • KingPin

    What a big douche, what is he thinking? Piracy is like water, the more you try to choke it the more the water escapes. Its a beast, Its apart of human nature, apart of who we are. We share, .. shit we have been taught to share since we were a baby. Why go against the grain now?

    What is the world coming to? I dont really believe in god but if there is one I just wished he would send us some internet messiah to straighten this shit out.

    Later

  • Traum

    Wow, this is really interesting. Hey, UFC morons pick me, sue me and lose all respect if U have any, bunch off losers.

  • Kirkpad

    They gonna fight us pirates? We got internet black belts!

  • ghost

    lol, like they don’t pirate themselves. I know a lot of people who were into watching UFC years ago and don’t watch it anymore, it happens and it has nothing to do with piracy, people lose interest along the way when the shit keeps repeating itself. Everyone’s downfalls are now being blamed on piracy when it would be the same even if piracy didn’t exist.

  • IRONY

    I know a certain UFC fighter (MMA) who participates in torrenting and is staff at a MMA tracker.

    How ironic.

  • The Drumstick

    There was a time when all the UFC really wanted was popularity for the sport…

    It’s kind of upsetting to see that DW et al are going all MAFIAA. Esp. with the admission that it will cost more to go after the pirates than it would to just take it on the chin.

    This all sounds exactly like the movie industry with their empty screams that “piracy is killing our business” whilst the figures scream record returns.

    Just like the movies, people will not pay to watch absolute crap.

    Take the upcoming card… I’ll watch on ESPN, since I already have it; but were it to be PPV in the UK I sure as hell wouldn’t pay to watch it. However, the most recent card, I’d have happily purchased. All the figures really show is that less people buy shit fights… go figure.

    Besides, the way I see it nobody who really wants to watch the fight would want to watch on Justin.tv unless they had little choice. Eg didn’t have the cash to pay for the fight or it wasn’t broadcasting in their country.

    It’s a shame that now the UFC’s focus is to cut off the extra fans. Sure, extra, unpaying fans… but they won’t pay just because you cut off the alternative.

  • Reasonable

    This is will create a publicity and awareness for people, that they can actually watch their rubbish online. So more will flog to the internet instead of per-per-view.

    Greed leads to more greed. They just want more money. Can’t they appreciate what they’ve got and be kind to it’s viewers, no matter where they come from (online or pay-per-view customers).

    Bite the hand that feeds you, and you’ll reap what you sow…

  • Reasonable Man

    Yeah attack your loyal fans.

    Instead of appreciating their wealth they want to skyrocket their wealth in the wrong way.

    Without us you are nothing MMAFIAA!

    What a load of ignorant no brainers, spend more money to tackle the tiny percentage they claim to lose to online streaming.

    Who would want to watch their cr*p anyway. Go to the zoo instead, they have them in all shapes and sizes in cages.

  • MMAFIAA is born

    Just one word, MMAFIAA

  • The Rock

    Just Bring It!

  • wit

    f*ck em, there are more of us, we are stronger.

    I’ve never been that interested in UFC but I am going to distribute their sh*t on a heavy basis from now on.

    Do not dispair fellow pirates. We will sail these waters to victory! ARRR!

  • weslley

    como que eu faço pra assistir serie por aqui por exemplo como grey`s anatomy

  • Wolfy

    is this the way the markets work nowadays? If they don’t make enough money, they target their customers? What if one of their targets had ppv’ed and then downloaded the exact same show?
    Great work market guys, I’m starting to lose faith in capitalism. Might as well have a look at this red coloured book, hmmm… what’s the author’s name? Karl Marx?

  • Bluster & Hoompah

    This is what happens when someone gets kicked & punched in the head enough times.

    The guy’s probably has only one brain cell left, and that one is in pretty rough shape, so give him some slack.

    The CEO here is a pretty sad case, ditto for the people who consider this entertainment.

  • Afficanado

    (expletive) ‘em.

  • mined.se

    foolishness

  • Penner

    Lets all just download all UFC eps that gets released from this point on, even if u hate it go download it,you don’t have to watch it, do it just to fuck with them ^^

  • hater of ufc

    yes sue your customers, thats what will make ufc more popular….newbs

  • Anonymous

    A hundred of them and they don’t think that people will start to get a tad bored of it?

  • Ninja

    @17 weslley: you fail.

    I’m not a fan and I usually dont watch live stuff. I like to make my own schedule. So pay-per-view would be for me if I could select the fights I wanted to see and when. Download on demand?

    In any case, he says 140k were streaming but can he be sure that all 140k have access to the official ppv content? And how is he so confident in telling that all of those are always following his content? How many of those are just casual watchers that wouldn’t watch it if it wasn’t available via free streaming?

    Just like MAFIAA, UFC fails.

  • Unauthorized Content Consumer

    Good luck with that. It seems like you’ve been headbutting concrete walls a bit too often there buddy.

    One download/share does not mean one lost sale, you moron! If someone copies and sells your product, then it is a lost sale 100%.

    Word to the wise. I once knew a very god fearing loyal family man. He started to get into wrestling and overtime he got into more aggressive and violent sports. As he got into boxing he musta been getting some serious blows to the head because we all noticed serious changes in his personality, ability to remember things as well as his apparent loss of reason and intelligence. He got into extreme boxing and got many repeated blows to the head. He then started telling me about the innsppropriate fantasies he had about underage girls. He got worse and started talking about his daughters young female friends. I called the authorities on him because I was worried about his children and their friends. I haven’t talked to or seen him since.

    So I don’t have a good opinion about extreme fighting. I think it causes serious harm to the participants, and it probably reduces the morality of those who watch it and condone it. I also have a low opinion of those who profit from it.

  • yabba

    I’m 12 and what is this?

  • Anonymous

    Go for it UFC and within few year you are dead.

  • Dana White

    Funny, I actually learned about the ultimate fighter season 3 when I used to DL from TorrentLeech. I started watching UFC after that. I think I purchased about 8 or so fights, so around $400 bucks spent.

    I can tell you this, when greed gets to people like these pricks I 100% stop supporting them. All they are doing is is giving more support to the streams by naming them, ah dumb fucker how many people will start using their services now.

    You see Dana driving around in a Ferrari and they are talking about losing money. Fuck you Dana riding around on the coat tails of the Fertitta brothers. The Fertitta brothers may be rich, but so is Sony, Columbia, Warner etc… they are losing the battle what makes these ignorant guidos think they think they can stop it.

  • techy

    Bah! who wants to watch that violent homo-erotic BS anyway!

  • rty

    Good luck… I’m guessing a lot of these sites don’t keep the traffic logs of user trafic anyway….

  • pp

    I stopped reading the garbage half way down as this is a sport and sports have been declared legal to broadcast and p2p. If they try to get after you, they are braking the law themselves because its legal.
    http://www.unitethecows.com/forums/digital-media-news/48819-streaming-bittorrent-sports-links-site-declared-legal.html

    Live broadcasts of sports events on the Internet do not violate copyrights, Tel Aviv District Court Judge Michal Agmon-Gonen ruled yesterday. As a result, the live-footy.org web site will be allowed to continue free broadcasts of Premier League soccer games.

    The Premier League grants licenses for broadcasting the games to broadcasters in 207 countries. The league’s management, which recently discovered that the Israeli-owned web site has been broadcasting the games live, sent an email to the owners demanding that the broadcasts cease. When the owners refused, the Premier League asked for an injunction to put a halt to the streaming.

    For the legal action to proceed, the league first had to identify the web site’s operators. In deliberating over whether to require the site to identify its owner, Agmon-Gonen addressed the legality of live broadcasts over the Internet using streaming technology, which does not allow viewers to save the content on their computers.

    The judge found that the Premier League failed to prove that the web site had violated its rights. Internet broadcasts are not similar to television broadcasts, she ruled, and the Internet broadcast viewers are not people who would potentially pay to see the games on television.

  • Anonymous

    “When people start going to jail,” says White, “people will stop doing it.”

    And once these parasites are dead they will stop buging us.

    THEY DON’T LIKE 350,000 BUY?

    WHAT ABOUT ZERO?

  • Me

    There was a time that the UFC would have been THRILLED if they had the same viewership that they do now. But they’re getting greedy – now they’ll start suing fans, and following in the footsteps of the RIAA/MPA. Good luck with that plan. Sounds like I need to stop watching their shows. Besides, they’re crazy if they think their 1 good fight with 7 other garbage fights is worth $50 in this economy.

  • The Anon

    *wears his black belt and adjusts the boxing gloves. Throws a warning punch in the air*

    BRING IT ON MMAFIA !!

  • Anonymous

    Since the RIAA strategy worked so well that they have to abandon it after spending 10 of million of dollars I think UFC should go for it.

    One can not stop human stupidity.

  • MMA fan

    I love the UFC, but I can’t afford to pay $50 for every PPV when they have so many in one year…I stopped buying most of them after they became more than $30, before that, I never missed a single one.

  • Matthew

    @28….words right out of my mouth!

  • Anonymous

    WTF is UFC?
    & who cares?

  • Rick

    The ufc will become victorious.
    You better believe it, people are gonna goto jail for this., and y’all gonna be scared.
    eh

  • Fat Head

    I don’t care if Jesus Christ is fighting Satan for the belt, I ain’t payin’ 60 dollars for it.

    Make it 10 bucks for the HD broadcast and MAYBE I’ll consider buying. Otherwise forget it.

    The UFC charges hundreds to thousands of dollars for a ticket to one of their events. They’re making enough money just at the gate to pay all the fighters, crew, and probably all the rest of their overhead just from that. Losing money to piracy? I doubt it.

    The way I see it, for a long time, Dana White and the rest of the UFC saw the Internet as a way to spread the word about their organization and the sport as a whole. They probably said, “even if they’re not paying for it, at least they’re watching it”. Now that the sport has grown in popularity, that attitude has clearly changed. On top of this, I think the UFC is starting to realize that they’re not the only fish in the sea when it comes to MMA. I’m sure that the UFC is starting to realize that Strikeforce isn’t just another Elite-XC and they might have some real competition now. I think that the UFC knows that these days the words MMA and UFC are not as interchangeable as they were just a short time ago.

    I also agree with the main article when it mentions that low numbers might be attributed to MMA burnout. In this economy and when you’re airing PPV events sometimes every three weeks and charging 60 bucks a pop, don’t expect numbers to be through the roof. Besides, if I need an MMA fix, I’ll just turn my TV to HDNet and watch some of the great fights they air (for free).

  • RIAAtarded

    to quote their own spokesman. “you cant stop the internet baby!” Joe Rogan

  • I_LOVE_UFC_BUT_U_WONT_WIN

    Check these interesting facts out,

    The payout for UFC 108
    Rashad Evans — $375,000 (including $175,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Thiago Silva — $55,000

    Paul Daley — $84,200 (including $18,000 win bonus, $50,000 knockout bonus)
    def.
    Dustin Hazelett — $19,800*

    Sam Stout — $74,000 (including $12,000 win bonus, $50,000 FOTN bonus)
    def.
    Joe Lauzon — $62,000 (including $50,000 FOTN bonus)

    Jim Miller — $30,000 (including $15,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Duane Ludwig — $12,000

    Junior dos Santos — $60,000 (including $30,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Gilbert Yvel — $30,000

    Martin Kampmann — $46,000 (including $23,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Jacob Volkmann — $6,000

    Cole Miller — $74,000 (including $12,000 win bonus, $50,000 submission bonus)
    def.
    Dan Lauzon — $15,000

    Mark Munoz — $32,000 (including $16,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Ryan Jensen — $6,000

    Jake Ellenberger — $20,000 (including $10,000 win bonus)
    def.
    Mike Pyle — $17,000

    Rafaello Oliveira — $20,000 (including $10,000 win bonus)
    def.
    John Gunderson — $5,000

    *Daley forfeited 10 percent of his show purse to Hazelett for failing to make weight.

    Note: These numbers, sent to Sherdog.com by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, are disclosed pay only. They do not include additional bonuses or percentages of other revenue.

  • Phoenix

    kiss my @$$

  • What?

    With the price of the PPV they’re losing money? Bring the stupid price down and more will actually pay to watch it instead of downloading.

  • What2

    I agree with #43 the price is what leads people to pirating. Why the hell don’t they offer PPV plans for buyers ahead of time?

    And good luck stopping the illegal streams well at least the one’s you know about :)

  • Mark

    More LOL.

    I already lol’d at article about the random nobody record label blaming their lack of sales on piracy and not signing new artists today.

    And now I lol @ this for it is actually laughable how every media corporation can blame piracy when the sales aren’t as high as they’d like.

    :-/

  • ANDY

    i can just imagine a f**kin ret@rd so pumped on steroids that looks like this

    http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/son_i_am_disappoint.gif

    kicking the shit out of an admin on a torrent site LOL

  • noufcrubbish

    is a crap sport anyway

  • p2p-pirate-site-owner

    Mr Fertitta and his posse may be tough in the real world, but on the Internet they are a group of sissy school girls.

    You think they’re the first or the 100th to try & knock out piracy? His ego is writing checks his brain can’t cash!

  • gnice

    Some ignorant juice-head running his trap.

    The nerds will continue to pwn you big boy … nothing your feeble, steroid-ridden brain can do about it.

    Now get back in your cock-tagon and go get punched in the head some more, you fucking retard.

  • adams

    I am a huge fan of the UFC, I try to download every event and watch it. However, I don’t have sat or cable tv therefore I’d never pay for the PPV events. Also, I’d not go to places for the PPV events. Without downloading I would have to just check the website and youtube to keep current, and that would be boring. SO actually, without downloading, I would NOT follow the UFC at all and NOT be a fan. It doesn’t make sense to get rid of people like me. —DANA get serious man, you are not making sense.

  • gonewalkabouts

    I have it on sat tv dont watch it still have pay so . adams @ 49 can have what i have paid for

  • fleap

    UFC and its ghey fans. Oh lawdy

  • Ahmed1337x

    loool, I will still be downloading every episode and seed till I get 10.0 ratio hehe!

    We will never stop pirating

  • jack

    This is going to be a complete disaster for the UFC and their checkbook. The number of fans they have gathered via peoples ability to download events is through the roof. If they start suing folks its going to backfire something fierce.

    J.

  • Anonymous

    hahaha! im about as scared as when that fool named evan seinfeld was saying he was gonna kick all of are asses and then everyone laughed at him. http://torrentfreak.com/biohazard-bassist-blasts-bittorrent-080420/ xD

  • OJ

    Dear Dana White:

    If you think your litigious assault will have any effect whatsoever on P2P you’re sadly mistaken.

    It pleases me greatly that people such as yourself are losing money. Now run along and (expletive) yourself.

    Sincerely,

    OJ

  • Anon

    Never took an interest in UFC until I read this article, I’ll download a few fights and see if I like it enough to download more ;)

    Thanks for the recommendation White, Good luck with your Riaa-style legal battles of trying to put people in jail :D

  • Anon

    @55:

    Evan Seinfeld is a fool, he runs his mouth and never follows through on anything. Aside from being in that stupid show “Oz”, He’s in the porn business, married to Queen-Of-Syphilis Tera Patrick. She’s famous for taking 4 up the butt at the same time, so don’t expect Evan to have made any quality choices in life. Evan has zero credible skills, he’s famous because of who he knows and nothing more, even his music is trash.

  • MrGz0r

    this guys a joke,if her thinks his going to stop everyone his out of his mind i don’t even watch UFC and am laughing at him “) maybe i start now.

  • adams

    @56 OJ,

    You’re very correct. Don’t the big companies understand that even if they stop 3 or 4 major sites that 3 or 4 or 15 more will show up? Pure ignorance.

  • GOSANE

    I always did like Joe Rogan.

  • Splash

    this is totally fukin retarded as if these guys dont get enough money to begin with same as hollywood actors ,football players etc, blame the recession on these type of people they all get payed well to much and still demand more and get it! end of the day stop bluddy whining about losing money we all r fuking losing money maybe thats why some people do the piracy? lol, what is piracy anyway lol whoever made the internet is to blame for it if your that keen on getting downloaders punished you will find the web an empty place you may aswell just shut all internet off! then theres no choice is there!! jeez its just like other ongoing issues,global warming wtf emissions from cars etc ruining the planet! STOP FUKING MAKING CARS THEN!
    STOP MAKING CIGARETTES
    STOP MAKING ALCOHOL
    lol

    but no you wont because you arent that bothered about the planet at all but just your pockets!

    same with riaa people etc its just to line your own fuking pockets!

    so why the fuck should we listen to anything you say!

    im gunna download me a shit hawt film now and watch the fooker! :-)

  • Trelew

    UFC just showed the public how clueless they are about the internet file sharing and how people what their product. Their last PPV, I lost count at how many restaurants and bars that were showing it for the patrons. Why the hell would I spend $50+ to watch a PPV when I can go to the local bar, grab a meal and a beer or two for less than half of that? Almost every place that shows it, advertising that it shows it, and packs the place. I don’t need to download it to see it.

    With that being said, it should be mentioned that I know of several sites where any given PPV will be shared with a couple of hours of it finishing. So they might loses some DVD sales from the few that are “It’s All Free” mentality. Are they losing money….nope! Are they going to lose money from internet file sharing, not enough to cause a blip on their balance sheets.

    Move On UFC Move On

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  • Ricardo

    who the fuck wants to see ufc?!
    kind of retarded stuff for retarded people..
    just some random people fighting with no purpose at all..

  • whynot

    Lower your prices substantially UFC and I will buy all events. ($9.99) per event sounds about fair.

  • The Sharer

    No rules in the ring.
    No rules on the net.

    Come fight in our court you lose..

    Freedom on the internets!!

  • Anonymous

    This doofus is living inside a bubble. If he think UFC is popular, he is in for a rude awakening. I wouldn’t download a bunch of thugs hugging and belting each other senseless, waste of bandwidth.

  • Uk23

    Don’t forget about the mafia connections/background the Fertittas have:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=fertitta+mafia+connecions&btnG=Google+Search

  • anonymous

    Well basically, what I managed to understand from that was:

    ‘We know we are going to lose money, but we want to try take on something that we stupidly think we can win against’

    that and Joe Regan is freakin awesome

  • Anonymous

    620,000 x $49.95= 30,969,000 gross dollars for the last ppv alone. Not to mention their spike tv deal, dvd’s and other merch, plus the actual money they make at the gate. And they don’t make enough money? geez, greed is disgusting.

  • Macho Man
  • UFC fan

    I read the news and decided to download every UFC event ever. 200 Gt coming in right now. Perhaps this is what they wanted? Well they got it.

  • anon

    didnt they learn from RIAA?

  • \\.neo.styles|sSG

    @ 1-75

    How shocking! People are stealing from them and they are going to do something about it!

    It always amuses me how people who exploit others act surprised when it turns out that they will be held accountable for their actions.

  • theo

    I’m going to go find as many UFC events as I can.

    Even though UFC sucks balls.

  • autoD

    Ok. Everyone has had their spastic outbursts. Now, can anyone offer constructive suggestions to the UFC on what they should do to protect/grow their business? So far, I’ve only heard “Give it to me for free. You don’t need the money anyway” ($10 tickets, free live, realtime streaming, and free/low cost HD downloads)

  • kenny_lex

    I think they losing money due to that is a silly sport that few want to see. It is the rules that make a sport, any sport with no or few rules make less sense than cricket.

    But as always, it is easier to blame pirates instead of admitting that you doing something wrong.

    P.S Sorry for the bad spelling. I am not only a swede, I am also uneducated.

  • MMA fan

    I think it’s funny that people say UFC is lame, when it’s the fastest growing sport ever.

    MMA is the best sport on the planet, but Dana needs to lower them prices.

  • UFC FAN

    I have never downloaded a UFC PPV event or any other UFC videos. But since I can,and should,I will. Take that up your ass MR.Lorenzo Fertitta!

  • jon7272

    lol find me through my vpn good luck hehehe

  • anon

    @ 76

    its not that they reacted, its how they reacted, especially going for the same non working tactic that riaa has been using for many years

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  • Anonymous

    ITT: UFC makes lame fagot porn and trys to blame the internet on it’s fail.

    If 888chan was up I’d raid em.

  • rob

    never watched it before but im gonna download some now just as a big FUCK U! to that arrogant CUNT!

  • zarathustra

    I download UFC all the time. Sue me, Fer-tit-a, you Fer-twat-a! =]

    P.S. I was really disappointed that Rampage didn’t man up for the Evans fight. Let’s hope it still happens, ‘cos they bloody HATE each other. eheh Should be good…

  • d00msay3r3

    I love the UFC, BUT Let me say a few things…
    When I’m paying $49.95 for a PPV that means a few things to me. I shouldn’t have to see any advertising, that’s what I’m paying extra for. Commercial free PPV. Then why do I see advertising all over the ring mat (Mickey’s wide mouth), all over the ring posts, all over the pre staging area (Harley Davidson pre staging area, and we have to take extra time to hug all our crew before we enter the ring so everyone can see. Then when they enter the ring they have a roll out banner behind each fighter with sponsors. Then we have sponsors all over the fighters trunks(Sprawl), Then we have hats, t-shirts(SilverState), etc. showing sponsors when the fight ends. Then between each fight we got to show UFC sponsors(sponsors hell, it’s a f’n commercial!)
    Once again a sport that has become nothing but advertising and the fighters have gone to hell.

  • Anon

    Tapout hats & clothing sold in USA & Canada covers there what they call “millions loss”.

    Where do they get there statistics from that they Ohh lost out in millions but Hey aren’t we in a fooking recession so ppl just are not ordering and that this is just plain stupid, they are blaming ppl downloading there stuff when actual reality we are in a recession and ppl are spending less money.

    So who are they to say were lossing out, how can they tell, where do the statistics come from?

  • Anonymous

    @76

    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • nah in bmore

    I like MMA….but UFC just seems kinda gay. It seems like they dont have any main attracters… Now did you see in boxing the Pacquiao vs Cotto fight. Even idiots like myself who rarely watch boxing knew about that. Because Pacquiao is the current big star…main mover and attraction.

    You gotta have stars and you gotta line up he events.

  • Merkin ChickenTard

    Best part of the article?

    “White, who is famous for not being able to speak a sentence without cursing”

    Made me PROPER LOL!

    Hilariously funny but, irrelevant much?

  • Careful With That Axe, Eugeneasoned Mind…

    Oh, & we TINW were doing SO WELL ignoring the obvious troll.

    Then you had to go & spoil it…

    =]

  • Fedor fan

    I’ll pay $50 to watch Fedor, Aleks, and a few others. I won’t pay a cent to watch most of the UFC mediocre fighters. In fact I won’t watch them if they are free.

  • Lawlatovs

    “With a great fight card at UFC 107, however, it was good times revisited with pay-per-view buys rocketing to 620,000. Good product, good sales.

    But according to the company, these pay-per-view buys aren’t generating enough money for the UFC”

    I loled hard at the blatant bias of these statements.

    “Enough”? Srsly?

    What a third party considers to be “enough” money for someone or some organization to earn is entirely irrelevant.

    Saying that is like if some fat slob approaches me and commands, “You have enough health already, start eating garbage and sitting on your ass, or else.”

  • reat

    When the get to hell, I wonder if they will have to lick the sulfur off of their master’s big festering toe?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if they didn’t fucking charge 50$ to watch a fight, people wouldn’t pirate it. Honestly, who the fuck would spend 50$ on that shit

  • Sceptre

    Once again I see nothing wrong with downloading and watching after the event is aired and over. The results will be on every mma-related website out there anyways.

    The whole streaming while the event is live and on ppv is wrong though. There is no reason for that since you can find it a little over 1 hour after it’s over. Give their company a chance to make money. For those who can afford that high price tag month after month.

  • GOREslinger

    sounds like he could find a vein that day… all aboard the H train!

  • MD3

    I watched the very first UFCs when I was a teenager, and I agree it seemed interesting.
    Now, almost two decades later, after all the changes to the format and a bit of maturing on my part, I can’t understand how people find any amusement in sweaty men fighting and rubbing against each other in embarassing homossexual positions. It’s just so idiot. I think in fact P2P might be helping that stuff survive, by expanding the audience to the more weird types which are more easily found on the best place for fetishists: The Internet!

  • Dan

    They should keep kicking themselves in the balls instead of ruining their reputation.

  • Anonymous

    “(Piracy) hasn’t cost us anything compared to what it’s going to cost us to go after (piracy).”

    Even though we’re just a few days into 2010, I think it’s safe to say that Dana White has already secured the Dipshit of the Year award.

    @Lawlatovs
    “I loled hard at the blatant bias of these statements.”

    What blatant bias, moron?

    UFC 107 garnered 620,000 pay per view buys. That’s a fact.

    According to UFC, the pay per view buys aren’t generating enough money. That’s also a fact.

    Wherein lies the bias of reporting these two facts, exactly? Can you explain please?

  • aXXo

    D you want me to rip your shows now :D

  • Think about it

    @ 76 Jan 06, 2010 at 01:00 by \\.neo.styles|sSG

    We all know you’re illiterate, you don’t have to keep pointing it out.

  • Anon

    lol u fag didnt you realise that when it went bankrupt it will do so agen? since no1 is interested anymore.. be thatnkfull that som1 else might even be willing to watch that crap! lol where did ur get ur business degree from? moron.. and ps for ALL of u fags claiming to lose money to all these sites and ISPs.. OPEN UR OWN FUCKING SITE AND BECOME AN ISP, then ul see just about how much more profit ul make from piracy.. if any.. This is a new age.. a new millenia.. GROW UP.. or in most cases shrivel up and die!

  • AnarchyNow

    Another bunch of worse than nazi capitalist scumbags who think they’re losing millions (why not billions?) of non-existing money out of thin air.
    This sovietic-style bullshitting repression has to stop and no it won’t stop by voting; as anyone now can see Obama is no better than Bu$h and the pitiful pirate party is as useless as the pitiful green party.
    REFUSE, RESIST AND KEEP ON SHARING FOR FREE

  • OMG

    @1 LOL

    They dont know what they are up against but they will soon find out.

  • Anonymous

    Dana needs to listen to Joe Rogan. If the UFC go down this road they are going to go the same way as Pride and Cage Rage and dozens of other shows that have gone bust over the last couple of years. Maybe if they spent more time putting better cards together they would get more PPV. I know fighters get injured but the last couple of shows sucked ass.

  • M-RES

    UFC is pay-per-view? It’s broadcast free-to-air in the UK… so how does piracy affect it?

  • Patrick B

    People watching streams instead of dropping $50 for a PPV is not lost money. They are assuming the people watching the stream would have bought the pay-per-view otherwise, that is an asinine assumption. The people would have not watched it at all. Case in point, they aren’t losing a dime.

    They clearly don’t understand how the Internet works. You will have people stealing instead of buying but put out a good enough product and filesharers will gladly pony up the dough. Deal out crap and they’ll just watch it for free. The proof is in the pudding, more exposure is good, no matter if you are seeing immediate profit or not. They may not pay for that PPV but they may next time, and they may buy your ridiculously expensive t-shirts, work out equipment, trading cards, sweaters; whatever you throw out in the long run. I know, I have friends that are mobile billboards for UFC.

    The only thing you do is piss off the casual viewer and guarantee they will never become a consumer. If you want to be the big bad wolf and make sure we know who owns the content then fine. But guess what, instead of occasionally buying a overpriced product of yours maybe we’ll just steal the show and never drop a dime on your over-hyped junk. Then when you lose a couple hundred million instead of a couple dimes you can really blame the pirates. Until then shut your mouth, take an economics class and leave the business to the grownups, alright?

  • Anonymous

    I luv the part he says “we are going to hurt them” LoL

    Those guys want to amputate their own foot because it is hurting them LoL

    There is an old saying “learn to take the good with the bad”

    But somehow I don’t think this people will understand what that means.

  • Truther

    SOMEONES jealous they aren’t a real sport.

  • zeebart

    nope i aint paying…half the fights sucked anyway, and i was so glad that i didn`t pay, alot of the undercard fights are way better than most of the main events :)

    and ur right @ all the ads they have while ur trying to watch the fight…it just may as well be on regular TV

    long live the cappers!! ;)

    ~~~and btw, Don`t Feed The Troll!!~~~

  • annie mouse

    great article!

    I did not know of the streaming sites before I read this. Thanks!

    The more they fight piracy the more it grows!

  • Anonymous

    Who wants to watch a rehearsed fondling session?

  • the sheep

    UFC is a mockery to what true traditional marshal arts is anyway. anyone getting on the television screaming how they’re going to kick someone in the face so hard its going to explode… doesn’t really deserve much creditability at all in morals or intelligence.

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  • The Old Codger

    Note:
    UFC = Sport – NO

    UFC = Stage rehearsed = YES

    are you being ripped off = YES

    Are you fool enough to come back and pay for this rubbish = MAYBEE

  • Matt

    Piracy is illegal and you all should go to jail. Ahha.

  • TerribleTony

    “When people start going to jail,” says White, “people will stop doing it.”

    Where is your evidence for this assertion?

  • hmmm

    Yes, just like jail and fines have stopped all drug dealing or parking offenses, or speeding or drink driving or murder or theft, etc etc.

    lol

    I am confused though at how a business can grow each year and have climbed from 300,000 to between 600,000 and 1 million buys yet are losing from piracy. I also think they are looking for someone to blame for the global economy. They need to realise that in the last year, EVERYONE was affected.
    I know plenty that canceled their paytv this last year due to a lack of money.

  • friend

    Dana, your welcome for my payperview dollars but this is crazy talk. Think about all the potential fans who will not get the chance to see the sport. You make me want to never order another ppv event again because you sound like a typical greedy corporate MF. Without the internet i’d never have ordered PPV events but the exposure i have gotten from the net has led me to become a fan and order PPVs. Do you know it takes most people time to become a fan of the sport? Probably a few events and a good seasons of the ultimate fighter. If they stay a fan they will pay, host UFC parties and order your PPVs. BTW most people in the world would rather spend the money on some food. So don’t be such a prick. It’s not helping you, or your company. However, I don’t think it’s fair if people are live streaming your PPV events but going after people who watch them is not going to help anybody. ( ya, i know dana will never read this…)

  • LULZOR

    RIAA has successfullly stopped music download…oh wait

    If UFC wants people to buy the PPV, then stop putting out shitty cards. Having 14 cards a year when only about 5 of them are good means less people buying. That or stop charging nearly $50 bucks for online stream.

  • Sceptre

    lol at all the ppl saying this isn’t a sport.. go back to your boring hockey/basketball/football etc Or maybe join an anti-violence group meh

    also lol at the ppl saying it’s rehearsed. Getting knocked out cold is real. haha calling these guys gay or something because they are both men with bodies pressed against each other. I’m sure that’s what they are thinking “man this guy has a nice ass” while he is beating the brakes off your face. Be a man and go fight another guy.. see how gay that feels to you while he is causing serious damage to your body.

    On a lighter note didn’t know the ppv had commercials in it. Since I watch all tv related stuff on my cpu, I have forgotten what a commercial is.. hehe

  • John

    You know what, the UFC don’t intimidate me.

  • Mavrik

    Dana White is looking at the issue subjectively and that is why his approach to solving the issue will ultimately fail. The world doesn’t operate like the UFC, you can’t use force to win all of your battles. The file sharing community will not be intimidated by using force, it has already been proven many times. If it was smoothly as getting a subpoena of IP address then there would be no file sharing community. Bigger establishments then the UFC has tried to end file sharing the same way White is trying to and to no avail. If White’s going to dish out money, he should do so in a way that has potential to work, rather then advancing in the same doomed direction of the companies before him. One way would be to pay websites such as justin.tv to make an exaggerate effort to haulting all pay-per-view UFC streams on the day of live broadcasting. White and the UFC has to stop peering with subjective eyes and look for realistic options.

  • Anonymous

    TBH, i find the charge Americans have to pay to watch a UFC PPV disgusting. I’m lucky that in the UK, the price is built into to my ESPN sub, which is only £10/month. But if they tried charging me $50?!?! Forget it.

  • heh

    ahahah this knob really thinks his methods apply to everything in this world..

    unfortunately for him.. he doesnt know what the internet is.

    We look forward to destroying you..

  • UFC_is_GAY

    Dana White can’t even handle the teenyboppers on that reality show a few years ago…and I’m pretty sure paperwork isn’t his forte either. He should get out of the press before he gets a public beating by a pirate’s wit.

  • MM

    UFC fans are too stupid to use the internet and thus that is debunked….

  • Mavrik

    Like many others are saying, $50.00 for a UFC event is ridiculous. Dana White didn’t even take the price of UFC’s pay-per-view events in to consideration, when the price of the pay-per-view events are one of the main reasons why people rather watch the internet streams. Also, I believe that UFC hasn’t earned the right to charge $50.00 for its pay-per-view events. UFC has no where near the recognition or duration of boxing, but yet UFC wants to charge the same amount as boxing pay-per-views. Boxing is respected and appreciated world-wide and has a towering fanbase. Boxing has earned the right for $50.00 per-pay-views. Boxing has paid its dues with some of the most finest, unparalleled and outstanding fighters and matches perpetually. The UFC has blossomed fast, but don’t take that progress and try to make a vast profit from the fans.

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    UFC Hits Bar With $640,000 Lawsuit

    READ IT FULL STORY BELOW

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  • Thraprod

    As a Wrestling and MMA fan, allow me to say, White has always been an extreme idiot.

  • YouKnowMe

    @130 – Wow.

    This is nothing more than a formal tantrum. They wont win any of this. I mean, come on, the UFC doesn’t even have a lot of capital. Don’t bankrupt your entire business suing people that have no money to repay you, dummy.

    Oh, how I hate meat-heads.

  • Yatti420

    UFC is heavily pirated.. The problem is most rips i’ve downloaded aren’t from the US.. They are intls who seedem up..

    Seems to me the only people the UFC can target are direct hosts.. Not torrenters..

  • Yatti420

    Also.. Based on UFC numbers and the old ppv event costs, assuming the prices haven’t changed UFC racked in more then 50 million in payperview purchases.. Assuming they get to keep it all that would be alot of $$..

  • zarathustra

    P.S. Thanks enigmax (& TF) for the live-streaming links. I used to have to wait for the files to hit U****t or BT, but now…

    =]

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  • Asscore

    Only super-faggots and douchebags watch UFC.

    Good work torrentfreak on finding the one group of people that I could care less about.

  • nnsa

    “We’re gonna go after them, we’re gonna go after them hard, and we’re gonna hurt em.”
    lol what a knobhead, does he not know the VPN, Socks5 etc is mightier than the brain damaged fighter.
    When will these people learn and evolve the business model.

  • SteveO

    Heres the next bright idea. Now Dana will start a reality show of him and a few fighters chasing down pirates, like Dog the bounty hunter. LOL

  • willnotcare

    occording to me they should ban the ufc because it is a whole lot a violence that are kids are taking in.its just like crack you get additted.

  • willnotcare

    addicted

  • willnotcare

    cost to much to watch a bunch a shit fights not worth it dont pay for that crap.

  • bk

    is there a bigger asshole than dana white? sorry: rhetorical question.

  • CryMeAnOcean

    Internet > Dana White now and forever. Sue your own fans, because some of them can’t afford your over priced shows with lacking fight cards to boot every single month. Cry me an ocean. You, the UFC, are David, this, The Internet, is Goliath. David doesn’t win in this battle.

  • Peter

    Blah blah blah blah, same story different characters. Good luck to you Dana

  • PMSL

    UFC100 grossed $100 mill in PPV and seating. How much they lost from streaming/capping?

    Come on Lorenzo, go cry again at the US House Judiciary Committee that you raked in 100M in just under 4H of broadcast but lost, let’s say, (200streams x $1500 licensing fees) = $300K.

    Or is this a bold move to get the demise of their own casino’s to the background and can hustle the ones they still owe money to by telling them “that the UFC lost some money so we can’t pay you”.

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  • Chester

    I use to be a huge UFC fan, I would buy almost every pay per view fight with my buddy. But my friend was deployed and I had no one to split the cost of the fight. So I started downloading the fights days after they went on. One day I received a letter in the mail telling me to stop downloading UFC. So I did. I also stop watching UFC and plan never order another pay per view ever again. Thanks Dana for being a douche, now someone who can barely afford to watch UFC fights wont have worry about affording them.

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