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Who are MCGIP (and Why are They Suing for Other People’s Movies?)

Today we take a look at a tangled web of copyright trolls who have set their sights on thousands of BitTorrent users. More specifically, the law firm Steele Hansmeier, the BitTorrent tracking company led by Hansmeier’s brother and the mysterious company MCGIP, which sued BitTorrent users for movies they didn’t make.

idsOur story begins at the IDS tower in downtown Minneapolis, a city known for its wholesome values and that special kind of crazy known as “Minnesota Nice”.

Number 900 in this tower is an exceptionally busy place these days as the home office of Media Copyright Group, LLC (MCG).

MCG is the technology company behind Steele Hansmeier, PLLC, and the affidavit of this firm’s “technicians” have formed the basis of countless motions seeking the identity of IP address owners. It wasn’t the contents of the technician’s affidavit that interested me initially, however, it was his identity – Peter Hansmeier. Hansmeier? Hmm. That name rings a bell.

A look at the LLC filings available from the Minnesota Secretary of State reveals that Media Copyright Group is managed by Peter Hansmeier from #900 IDS tower. Notably, Paul Hansmeier (attorney for Steele Hansmeier) is the registered agent for the LLC. In a way, then, the sole evidence submitted in favor of many of Steele Hansmeier’s subpoenas is a statement by one brother that his other brother really should be able to get this information. And the fact that the websites of the two companies are hosted on the same server doesn’t add to the claimed objectivity either.

But wait, it only gets worse from here. Media Copyright Group proudly proclaims on their website:

“The cost of our services is paid out of the damages that are collected on your behalf. In other words, you do not pay us any money up front, and we are paid only out of the damages that are collected…”

Peter Hansmeier appears then to be more than merely a witness, and more than just a witness and the brother of an involved attorney, but appears to be an interested party to the lawsuit himself. As the website makes clear, the witness against a John Doe defendant does not get paid unless damages are collected. If this alarms you then it’s time to buckle up, because we’re about to take a trip way down the rabbit hole.

At the bottom of the hole is MCGIP, LLC, a company which hired Steele Hansmeier to file multiple lawsuits against hundreds of Doe defendants in the last year. As another peek at Minnesota’s Secretary of State website reveals, MCGIP’s registered office address is #900 in the IDS, the same bustling office as Hansmeiers’ Media Copyright Group. It also lists its c/o as Alpha Law Firm, yet another business registered to #900 in the IDS tower.

Notably, Paul Hansmeier’s LinkedIn Profile lists him as “Partner” at Alpha Law Firm. This tangled web has several potential implications and leaves me wondering if MCGIP is Steele Hansmeier’s baby Righthaven, with all of Righthaven’s fatal flaws.

1. “Exclusive Licenses” and Potentially Defective Standing

As noted above, MCGIP does not own the copyrights to the allegedly infringed works, but instead acquires an “exclusive license” for the rights at issue. MCGIP says in its complaints that the work is publicly available, but only to “bone fide purchasers.” In a way MCGIP is right – the works are publicly available. Unfortunately for MCGIP, the works aren’t being offered by MCGIP. MCGIP does not have any web address where its purportedly licensed works are available, nor does it have any website at all.

Take the heartwarming coming-of-age tale, “Blacks on Blondes – Mariah Madysinn,” for example. This movie is the title at the center of MCGIP, LLC v. John Does 1 – 55 in the Northern District of California (3:11 – cv – 03312). This film is registered to Directech, Inc. d/b/a Dog Fart Productions (keepin’ it classy), but copyright.gov makes no mention of MCGIP, LLC. The video is presently available only from the original owner’s website.

Another blush-worthy example is “Well Hung Amateurs 5,” the movie at issue in MCGIP v. John Does 1-18. This situation is even more interesting, and the “exlusive” license even more questionable. This film is registered to Xplor Media Group and again the registration info makes no mention of MCGIP. It appears that this movie was created in 2006, has been consistently distributed by multiple online outlets in the time since, and continues to be available through multiple (apparently) legitimate adult vendors including Spice and Homegrown Video.

Copyright.gov notes that the registration date for this movie was in April 2011, and MCGIP’s lawsuit based on it’s “exclusive” license alleges infringements in Mid-March of 2011. All of this made the Righthaven alarm bells start ringing in my head, and they haven’t stopped since.

For those who are unfamiliar, Righthaven appears to be doomed by its business model, which relied on purportedly exclusive licenses from the copyright owners that allowed Righthaven to do little more than sue. Sound familiar?

In Righthaven’s case, suit after suit was dismissed for lack of standing. You see, copyright law only allows the owner or exclusive licensee of a protected right to bring suit to enforce that right. Righthaven repeatedly failed to convince courts that they had the requisite exclusivity, and the cases were dismissed. Righthaven was sunk. This doesn’t seem like an ideal business model to copycat, but it appears that Steele Hansmeier might have done just that.

The case for MCGIP’s standing doesn’t seem any stronger than Righthaven’s and the status of these purportedly exclusive licenses needs to be scrutinized. It seems unlikely that the actual owners of these movies gave MCGIP the exclusive right to distribute the works, especially in light of the fact that the actual owners and/or numerous internet distributors continue to offer the works themselves. This makes the license seem, by definition, non-exclusive.

Some of MCGIP’s filings seem to indicate that they are only the exclusive licensee of the right to distribute the movie on BitTorrent. This would be astounding, if true, and highlights the highly illusory nature of these licenses. A large section of Steele Hansmeier’s filings are devoted to explaining how a single user only exchanges bits of information through BitTorrent, and the entire structure of the network makes an exclusive BitTorrent license ridiculous and potentially impossible.

It is a disguised license to sue, and little more. And if MCGIP’s licenses don’t support standing, all of the MCGIP cases should be dismissed and all of their collection efforts should cease.

2. Potential Failure to Disclose Interested Parties

You might be asking yourself, “didn’t Righthaven get in trouble for its litigation practices?” Indeed they did. Specifically (and most pertinent to this discussion), Righthaven was fined $5,000 for failing to disclose that the actual owner of the copyrighted work was entitled to 50% of settlement proceeds from its suits.

I have not seen the purported assignments from the owners to MCGIP, but I find it hard to believe that they would give their reproduction rights to a company that does not appear to be in the movie business (but is certainly in the lawsuit business), and failed to retain at least some interest in the outcome of the litigation. What incentive would they have to participate? The Northern District of California Local Rule 3-16 (b)(1) explicitly requires disclosure of:

“Any persons, associations of persons, firms, partnerships, corporations (including parent corporations), or other entities other than the parties themselves known by the party to have either: (i) a financial interest (of any kind) in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding; or (ii) any other kind of interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding.”

Beyond the interest of the actual copyright owner, Media Copyright Group is fairly explicit in its own claims to an interest in the lawsuit. If they collect their fees only out of damages (as the website claims), aren’t they BY DEFINITION a firm with a financial interest in the litigation? Peter Hansmeier’s sworn declarations (which are publicly available from a number of sources online) and the MCG website lead me to believe that they are heavily involved in the Steele Hansmeier suits, yet to my knowledge this interest has never been disclosed in any of Steele Hansmeier’s filings.

The Takeaway

MCGIP has received little to no discussion in the ongoing debate about mass copyright practices. This needs to change. Their entire business model seems to be built on shifting sands, and I’m not sure if ANYONE has brought this to a court’s attention. Steele Hansmeier has declined to comment on this article.

If you are a defendant, make sure that your attorney is following up on all of the potential angles for your defense. If you don’t have an attorney and you or your case is in California, call me, or visit my website. If you are a defense attorney or anyone else with something to add to this discussion, I’d love to hear from you too.

In the words of former Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, sunlight is the best disinfectant, and I’m happy to add a bit of light to this debate. This article now qualifies as attorney advertising.

(Disclaimer: The legal analysis and opinion expressed herein are solely those of the author. Nothing herein is to be construed as legal advice and is not meant to replace the advice of an attorney with knowledge of the specific facts of your case. No attorney-client relationship is created, and you should not send me confidential information. Please just don’t try to sue me for offering my thoughts. Thank you.)

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  • Oli

    If only I lived in Cali.. You’re a good egg, Nicholas. There don’t seem to be many of those around so I wish you the best of luck for future success and hopefully, you can help bring down copyright lawsuits.

    • MAFIAAFire

      I second this.

      Also, do you have to wait till someone who is sued contacts you before you can inform the courts or can you just do it yourself as a concerned citizen?

      • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

        Google did it in the isohunt vs mafiaa case didn’t they?

  • Oli

    If only I lived in Cali.. You’re a good egg, Nicholas. There don’t seem to be many of those around so I wish you the best of luck for future success and hopefully, you can help bring down copyright lawsuits.

  • Anonymous

    ok… So I assume the court already has this info now? I would love to see a second ACS-Law but then in the states. What is also very funny is that all of these copyright trolls seem to be committing fraud just to be able to sue.

    • Anonymous

      Oh and by that i meant; would someone be so kind as to dump their database on the piratebay?

  • Jimbo

    until this type of practice is banned completely, everywhere, it will make no difference what happens to company’s like this. if it is found that a company is doing the same sort of thing as these and Righthaven, those involved should be the ones taking the fines and their lawyers receiving punishment from the courts and whatever law societies apply. all that is happening is that one firm gets found out, fails, gets bollocked, then along comes another to take it’s place. courts need to tell it like it is, ‘EXTORTION’ on a grand scale and react accordingly!

  • The-Truth-Hurts

    TL;DR sorry!

  • Anonymous

    That doesnt make a lot of sense dude.
    total-privacy.net.tc

    • Godarklight

      Why must you spam on every article?

      • eilif

        Because hes either a fucking idiot or a bot

  • Anders Breivik

    Good article, thanks.

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  • Anonymous

    I really like this lawyer you guys found to comment on your site. He seems like a genuinely good guy and actually seems to care that people are getting screwed. Unlike most lawyers. Most of them only care about their bottom line (Although I’m sure he likes his bottom line, It’s great that he takes time out of his day to point these things out).

  • Anonymous

    I really like this lawyer you guys found to comment on your site. He seems like a genuinely good guy and actually seems to care that people are getting screwed. Unlike most lawyers. Most of them only care about their bottom line (Although I’m sure he likes his bottom line, It’s great that he takes time out of his day to point these things out).

  • Agonia

    I really don’t care anymore. The movie and music industy with the big labels and the big artist like Beyonce, Lada Gaga, Justion Bieber, etc. are complete crap that I no longer want to hear anyway. Series aren’t much better either. How many more CSI movies are we going to see?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

      there are CSI movies!? I never heard about them.. they’re really that bad?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

      there are CSI movies!? I never heard about them.. they’re really that bad?

  • DarknezzMadnezz

    All I know is that I live in a country that such things do not affect me. Not to mention the day they actually do attempt to extradite me, they will have to sue my dead body, I will only leave my country to go smoke some primo herbs in Holland.

    • It was nice while it lasted

      Better do that quick! Holland is talking about passing laws to make the primo herb only available to residents. No more “drug tourism” as they like to say. But of course they’re not even raising the issue when it comes to pubs and alcohol…

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  • Oomg

    this is just proof that the massive lawsuit has and will never work …. stop using consumer as money tree ……

  • Blazeflack

    Very insteresting read. I hope someone has brought this to the attention of the proper authorities.

  • Blazeflack

    Very insteresting read. I hope someone has brought this to the attention of the proper authorities.

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  • me

    I’ve decided to save all my money and buy a congressman, so I can do what ever I want. Legal or not.lol

  • DiaRIAA

    How do we know that these pornographers were not secretly uploading torrents of their own films (the duds that don’t sell) on The Pirate Bay in order to earn some extra cash through copyright extortion?

    We shouldn’t forget that people enter the porn business (whether legal or illegal) for one reason: money. Considering the vast sums of money to be made from releasing one’s own low-budget smut videos to Bittorrent and then pressuring downloaders into paying a king’s ransom to “make it go away” – it would indeed be surprising if this underhanded (and probably illegal) tactic were not being employed.

    • Anonymous

      They are using emule for that right now. The media corps have always been about a decade behind the technology.

      Check the IO Group litigation and their campaign to sue those who download mislabeled files. http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/

  • Anonymous

    No real surprise here. They have always been copyright sharks only interested in their own profit and trashing everyone else in the process.

    This seems proof enough that their actions are not backed up by the law. They are only using copyrighted media for lawsuits and they have no authorization to control that media.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Spot-on analysis and description how “the copywrong industry” trolls work for themselves in exploiting a HUGE hole in outdated law simply due to new tech.

    I hear ya Nic :) and this one needs bookmarked and sent your local senator too PLEASE.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Spot-on analysis and description how “the copywrong industry” trolls work for themselves in exploiting a HUGE hole in outdated law simply due to new tech.

    I hear ya Nic :) and this one needs bookmarked and sent your local senator too PLEASE.

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  • Srinivas Gowda

    It’s been around for a while now, nothing new about it.


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  • Anonymous

    So how come judges aren’t noticing that of the nearly 200,000 such claims against Does so far (in the US alone), practically NONE have ever been taken to actual court? Don’t judges keep up to date on such things?

    I get that WE are interested and and therefore keep updated, but 200K similar cases isn’t exactly chicken feed, either. Even in the litany of other cases any low level judge might see, these cases-that-never-go-further should surely be setting off even tiny red lights, no? Someone, somewhere in that line of business (even clerks, assistants, etc.) must be noticing the trend as well. These do get some mainstream press coverage (pro or con) now and again, too.

    Are judges THAT insulated?

    • Insulation

      Some know, but the courts that have these cases taken to them are well “insulated”. Put enough money around someone who will take it and they’ll see nothing.

  • Anonymous

    I just got a $827.89 Samsung Galaxy Tab for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HTV for only $251.92, they are both coming tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prîces at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for.
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  • The Pirate Slayer

    I must say this is a good advertisement by one of the many underemployed attorneys trying to drum up business. But in the end, there is no way I have the time to deal with all the silliness in this article. After all, unlike the attorneys trolling for new John Does to represent by posting articles like this, I’m actually pretty darn busy.

    Lastly, I would argue the real “Trolls” are the attorneys desperate to sign people up for $500 so they can get the exact same settlement that our firm gives people not represented by attorneys.

    -John Steele “The Pirate Slayer”

    • 4thepeoplesrights

      Busy doing what, nursing the paper cuts from writing too many letters. Got Carpal tunnel yet? Put out any more letters with dates from 2006? You say the exact same thing everytime you post somewhere and then just disappear. The reason you won’t address the article is because you are too incompentent to debate anyone. You probably don’t remember me, but I had a ton of fun screwing with you over your Hard Drive Productions case. You remember that one…the one in which you strung people along for 9 months, never sued anyone, and then dropped several hundred people. Pay attention John, you just read how a compentent lawyer handles a case

      • DieTrollDie

        On 28 Sep 11, John Steele’s dismissed all but 8 defendants in a peice of #$%^ case (First Time Videos v. 1-500 Does, case # 1:10-cv-06254). He also strung everyone (include the Court) along for a year without naming a single Doe. Boy I bet the judge feels like a used fool. John is holding out on the last 8 until the ISP gives him their personal information. Please John, take one Doe to court so one of these “underemployed” lawyers and EFF can tear you apart. ;)

    • Anonymous

      Hey John can you point us to any trials you’ve won against defendants in any of your cases?

    • anon

      You will be reported to your state bar ethics committee. Good luck

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