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Why Are People Resigning Before The Copyright Industries’ Will?

Defeat in a single battle in the war over net liberty doesn’t concern me too much. I know that the net freedom forces have the strategic and intellectual upper hand in this war over our freedom, but there is something else that concerns me gravely. Why are people seriously thinking that the copyright industries have the final say in shaping society?

In a discussion thread concerning a recent book from myself and Christian Engström, Member of European Parliament, people were concerned. The book is titled “The Case For Copyright Reform”, and is a collection of the most relevant essays over the past year, as well as reproducing contributions from Mike Masnick, Ernesto and Michael Geist. (Did I mention it’s available for free download? Copy and seed.)

The political proposals in the book are also the ones carried by the Green group in the European Parliament, though they originate with the Pirate Party.

Extratorrent did a story on the book, and Reddit got a story linked there with a title saying “Copyright protection is suggested to be cut from 70 to 20 years from publication”. (Which is factually wrong – the proposal is to reduce from life plus 70 to a baseline five years, extendable to 20 through registration, limiting the monopoly to commercial uses only – but still.)

What strikes me as odd, and indefensible, are the reactions of resignation in the Reddit thread.

This is a selection of the highest-voted comments:

- Nice, but it won’t happen. Publishing companies would scream bloody murder.

- This would be fantastic but will never happen because companies have a vested interest in maintaining their ability to collect royalties indefinitely.

- They can suggest anything they like, but I really see no reason why the RIAA or MPAA would listen to anything but making it longer.

I am absolutely flabbergasted that this seems to be the prevailing view. When did people forget that legislators, and not corporations, have the final say over our laws?

The copyright industry is not a stakeholder in the copyright monopoly. They are a beneficiary. Of course they’ll want more benefits.

Who gives a rat’s ass what the copyright industries want?

Their interest is not the public interest. The only reason they have been getting their way in lawmaking is that legislators have believed – up until pretty much now – that this issue is completely peripheral in public opinion, so they haven’t cared about it at all, and they have ignored this field of policymaking to let it be run by easily-lobbied public servants.

To see people confuse corporations for legislators to this degree frustrates me. There is absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t hold legislators accountable for every single button they press – and let them know that it is us, not a special interest, that determine whether they keep or lose their job.

Failing that, one can also replace them entirely, as I set out to do with a movement that has now spread to 50+ countries. That also gets their attention. Guaranteed.

But no matter what, don’t ever accept the resigned position that the copyright industries determine law. They don’t. They’ve gotten away with wishlists because politicians haven’t cared. They do care when tens of thousands of people make noise, and we can do that. We know absolutely well that we’re capable of that and much more.

If the copyright industry collapses – who cares?

The job of every entrepreneur is to make money given the current constraints of society. They don’t get to dismantle civil liberties if they fail to make money – especially if they fail to make money. No entrepreneur has the right to shape society to guarantee themselves a profit.

There will always be culture, and the artists are doing better than ever. It’s more than time to rid our economy and our net of the burden of these parasitic middlemen – and don’t ever dare think you’re powerless to do exactly that.

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Rick Falkvinge is a regular columnist on TorrentFreak, sharing his thoughts every other week. He is the founder of the Swedish and first Pirate Party, a whisky aficionado, and a low-altitude motorcycle pilot. His blog at falkvinge.net focuses on information policy.

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  • FuckRIAA

    wtf

  • First

    First!

  • Anonymous

    Excellent article!

    • http://www.facebook.com/Point5communications Will Buckley

      Once again you’ve chosen to focus on the corporate side and not the individual. People who write and perform are directly impacted.  This is how they make their living.  

      • Common Man

        I think he addressed that issue in the following paragraph:

        ‘The job of every entrepreneur is to make money given the current constraints of society. They don’t get to dismantle civil liberties if they fail to make money – especially if they fail to make money. No entrepreneur has the right to shape society to guarantee themselves a profit.’

        Superb.  Those three sentences should be in the Pirate Party’s manifesto.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    “and don’t ever dare think you’re powerless to do exactly that.”
    nicely said. think that you are strong enough to protect your peaceful and free living and you shall triumph or think that you’re powerless and lose every single of your liberties 

    • Guest

      We are powerless. To think otherwise is of no use.

      • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

        talk for yourself. if you consider yourself to be a powerless shit, well, be my guest then, but don’t compare other ppl to yourself

      • Sketch

        can you not read asshat??  if we EN MASSE start our own lobbying, THEN WE HAVE THE POWER…..very well said “Rick”

      • we are the resistance

        A defeatist attitude automatically yields defeat. Knowledge is power so as you diligently seek (and apply) knowledge you will grow in power. That’s why nothing short of remaking the Internet to their whims will work because the Internet by its very nature is designed to spread knowledge as effectively and efficiently as possible and that both empowers the fight against oppression of knowledge and scares the hell out of the oppressors. Contribute to the EFF, learn what you can do with technology, and enjoy ;)

  • LibreMan

    Exactly! This is the defeatist apathetic attitude that has given the copyright maximalists free reign. Are we wondering why they’re getting away with it? This is why! Our attitute is why! Not long ago the legislators didn’t even think people actually care about any of this – not until we spoke up got the SOPA/PIPA and quite possibly ACTA defeated, it’s actually very easy to get the reform, all it takes is to not surrender before the battle even starts.

    Every one us doing a little sums up into all of us doing hell of a lot. The copyright industry was winning so far because they do not give up, SOPA was defeated? They come right back with the next push and the next from another angle – have we finally identified an area where we can learn from them? ;) I do think so, DO NOT GIVE UP, KEEP PUSHING and you shall know VICOTORY!

  • me

    The German Pirate Party has just won around 8% in the regional elections of the biggest land, Northrhine Westfalia. Even though most of the votes are protest votes, you can’t say people are resigning there and bowing to the Copyright Talibans.

    • muuh-gnu

      > Even though most of the votes are protest votes

      You dont know that.

      What is a protest vote anyway? Are only votes for the two big parties “serious votes” and all small party votes “protest votes” and have no own legitimacy?

      Many people sympathized with the Pirate Party for a long time, but didnt want to vote for them out of the fear to “waste their vote” in the case the Pirate Party doesnt make it past the notorious 5% election threshold. So everybody voted for a “safe bet”.

      Once the pirates got over the threshold in Berlin last year, they demonstrated that they are now also a “safe bet” and now everybody who hesitated before isnt hesitating any more.

  • MICE MAN

    You forgot the copyright industry BOUGHT the politicians, thus, they LEGISLATE.

    mc (dot) tt /////// db (dot) tt

    • Anonymous

       This is basically my point of view. In the US, corporations can now make unlimited financial contributions to politicians’ campaigns; it’s tantamount to bribery, really.
      While swaying legislators through public opinion is not IMPOSSIBLE, it’ll take quite a large groundswell to get them to do something they’re getting paid to go the other way on.

      • Fbi

        Sure, but this change isn’t gonna come from the US. If EU in a couple of years will change the copyright laws, US has no option than to follow.

        Sure they can keep the strong copyright for themselves and see the next generations of companies grow up in Europe, but I doubt they will let it go for very long.

        The EU economy is largen than US, but we have cowards to politicians licking americans asses. When the pirates come this is gonna change.

        • fudge bear

          EU can not change copyright laws on its own. Most of the world’s intellectual property (by value) is owned by American corporations represented by MPAA, RIAA and the US government. They will spare no means whatsoever to spoil any copyright reform anywhere in the world including extrajudicial processes, violating sovereignty, pressure through international organizations such as WTO, IMF and the UN, embargo, extradition of foreign individuals, astronomical legal fees and damages and both constitutional and unconstitutional incarceration. I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually went to a war, like war on drugs.

        • Anonymous

          As fudge bear said – changing the status of “intellectual property” will be a pretty big casus belli as it would make Iran’s nationalization of it’s oil fields in the 60′s look like a storm in a waterglass in comparison.
          However…the situation is in all other aspects differs. First of all the US is dead-ending on IP. It’s not sustainable and the smart people over there know it.

          Secondly the US literally cannot afford to piss off the EU given their current trade deficits. They can not afford to piss off any major importer of US goods. Punitive legislation which hurts your own country more than the adversary is never a good idea.

          Third…neither the EU nor the US can afford being on bad terms. We’re looking at a global meltdown which would leave Asia as the only winners. That said if the EU decided to radically reform copyright, my guess is that things will remain relatively normal, save a lot of inflammatory hyperbole being spewed by rapidly ailing record industries. Especially once the US artists catch on to the fact that self-publishing in massive scale doesn’t have to cost you four years in indentured serfdom.

    • we are the resistance

      There’s no denying that money is powerful but ideas are even more powerful. The more pure and true the idea, the more power it possesses.

  • ofProto

    Fuck the MAFIAA P2P will never die. Also Pirate Pay will only make us stronger. *Evil Laugh*

  • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/ SJD

    Reddit frustrates me at times. Once it was a question about a copyright troll victim, an elderly on oxygen, who was accused of downloading porn. The most popular replies were “tell her stop torrenting porn” or similar, and only few were aware of the underlying serious problem.

    At the same time, I’m trying to be realistic and grateful: Reddit is a community that represents much wider crowd than TorrentFreak or TechDirt, with all the cruelty, ignorance, desire of fairness and ingenuous passion attached. 

    So kudos to Rick going there every time and sometimes being beaten severely (like in the latest thread about the corrupt judge): the biggest danger in our fight is to comfortably pretend that the micro-societies we chose to communicate and find friends adequately reflect the whole world. 

    Being humbled by the complexities of a (real, not imaginary) society is a must have virtue of a passionate politician. 

    • Joe Biden

      Can’t stand some of the reddit crowd. Some are complete retards and some makes sense. Though most have no f’ing clue what goes around in this world besides cracking sarcastic jokes.

      • Innernets

        Protip: most of reddit (as most of the Internet) is composed of immature kids, spoiled privileged people and immature spoiled privileged kids.

        That should help explain a thing or two.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           something something 13 year old girls.

      • http://www.cheapassfiction.com/ Aelius Blythe

        Well if I may say so, I think SJD has got it right, Mr. Vice President sir.  When he said this:

         ”Reddit is a community that represents much wider crowd than TorrentFreak or TechDirt, with all the cruelty, ignorance, desire of fairness and ingenuous passion attached. ”

        Reddit is quite massive. It collects a wide(ish) cross section of the population (or at least the often-online population.)  The point is, yeah, there’s a lot of really loud folks with really no clue, just like there are offline.  So resignation, and particularly the angry form of resignation is very common there, just like it is offline.  

        But I’m glad to see the original article calling this out.  On reddit, as in the offline world, I often get the impression that people want to fight one giant battle, win, and then go back to their regularly scheduled lives.  They want to change the world, defeat all the corrupt politicians and make the world a better place, all before summer’s over.  When that doesn’t happen (as it never does if you look at any of the major struggles, e.g. civil rights movement),  when that doesn’t happen the angry “we can’t do ANYTHING!” attitude sets in.

        Pity.

        Anything can change.  As Rick pointed out, the Pirate Party is already affecting the world, at least by getting people’s attention.

    • John Doe

      “the biggest danger in our fight is to comfortably pretend that the micro-societies we chose to communicate and find friends adequately reflect the whole world. ”

      This is CRUCIAL. I think most people don’t think about it.
      I wish Rick would mention this problem in a future article, if he hadn’t done it yet.

      • Anonymous

        Anna Troberg, the current leader of the Swedish Pirate Party wrote an article of that. She referrred to the phenomenon as a “Guarded workshop”. Each and everyone of us lives in a clique of colleagues, friends and associates with whom we choose to spend our time. We do not go out of our way to speak to people who don’t tolerate or understand our views very much.

        That is the way it’s been for millenia. Then the internet came along. And things change rapidly.

        • Logos

          I don’t think the internet has caused that to change. Liberals spend their time at media matters, conservatives spend their time at fox or american thinker, and we spend our time at torrentfreak. I don’t see much reason to suspect this has changed.

  • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

    While I agree with your statements, Rick, I can’t help but feel that the reason so many equate the copyright beneficiaries with the legislators is that time and again, their wishes align with court decisions, bills and acts passed, regardless of the public opinion. Truth be told, the filesharing community, and the internet community in general that care about this topic tend to feel on the fringe of public opinion. We can  rage against this all we want, but the fact is the government and the courts seem to be in the pockets of the **AA’s. The comments you quote may be a truncation of this belief, in that as the content middlemen desire, so the government falls into step.

  • Anonymous

    the reason is, Rik, because it’s true. why, in my opinion, is it true? because no one of any consequence is interested in what the people think, let alone want. when the protests over SOPA and then ACTA occurred and those bills/laws were put ‘on the back burners’, that is as far as they went. they weren’t abandoned as such, they were just held up while being re-written and even attempts made to resurrect them. what we have atm is CISPA, TPP and ISPs like TalkTalk in the UK introducing porn blocks to complement the website blocking of TPB. whenever their is a ‘victory’ on behalf of the entertainment industries, it is trumpeted from the highest tower. when, on the very odd occasion, there is a defeat for the entertainment industries, they manage to stifle reporting of that result (like they stifle the fact that they withhold artists payments and use files without permission) and appeal, appeal, appeal, until they get the result they want. they have governments, politicians, law makers (corrupt judges) and everyone else possible in their pockets, except the ordinary people. even with millions of people wanting one thing and hundreds (in high positions) ‘encouraged’ to want the opposite, why is it the opinion of the hundreds takes preference? explain that to me please and then convince me that we, the people, even matter any more! i may be thought of as a defeatist. i am not, but i am fed up of basically being powerless, not through lack of numbers but let down by those that are in positions to do more than the people actually can by voting or marching in protest. but then, even those that are in better positions get ignored and shouted down. we’ve just had a classic example where a biased judge in Holland has silenced a full blown political party. if that can happen, with no backlash, no repercussions or challenging, we are well and truly fucked!

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       Seems like a unified effort is in the works to control the internet on all fronts. A more paranoid person would shout conspiracy. Me, I just figure never assume maliciousness what you can explain as mental retardation.

      • Anonymous

        The napoleonic principle still holds true. Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

        I wouldn’t say “conspiracy”. Instead, think of it like this: everyone has conditions where they’re able to abolish free speech and communication.

        Try the following examples:

        Government dissidence.
        Terrorist ideas and incitement.
        Child Pornography.
        Copyright Infringement.
        Political Criticism/satire.
        Abortion/sex education.
        Hate speech.
        Slander.

        Now count, on one hand, the number of people willing to allow the communication of everything above. My guess is you are already on the side of those who believe that censorship is “to some degree” useful.

        And that’s where these massive and concerted attempts at controlling the internet comes from. Too damn many people can be presented with any of the reasons above and just buy the unabridged package.

        • Anonymous

          It’s not that simple. What you’re saying could be said the same way about jailing: you do feel legitimate to lock people up for some specific reasons.

          However, there is a major difference: you don’t lock everyone up ”as prevention” before releasing those that prove themselves innocent. What they’re trying to do on Internet is basically this. They want people unable to speak their minds, unable to share their files and innovations, at least until they have white flagged these communications. (And it’s not limited to copyright issues, as you pointed out.)

          Why is that? Malice? Not necessarily. (Not excluded either.)
          The baseline is that they want to do it because they think it’s legitimate since technology allows a degree of “prevention”. You can filter things to a degree, you can track people down, so why not do it? They don’t understand things the same way we do, meaning that you don’t prevent people from being free. The baseline for all laws on Internet should be the same as in real life: you let people free and sanction those that abuse freedom. Innocent until proven guilty. And obviously there should be ways to defend oneself fairly if accused of anything. (This tends to get more difficult with each new law.)

          They also don’t understand (or don’t want to) that IP has never been made as permanent “property”. It’s a temporary monopoly that has been granted to encourage innovation.  It’s high time we judge whether it actually does that nowadays… or slows innovation instead. Whether extending it indefinitely will benefit society, or only a few privileged people.

          Which brings us back to Rick’s post: we have to “educate” the lawmakers (or change them altogether). Up until now, we’ve let the lobbies “educate” them (with money as incentive). That’s why the legal “fight” should be brought there, not in the trials (too late) or against the lobbies themselves (wrong target).

  • I WiLL Vote Pirate Party

    People are beaten down by the corruption.
    They cant see that the government are meant to work for them.
    They accept that they are meant to serve the governments wishes.

    It’s institutional, the powerlessness of people. From police to laws, the people feel and in most cases are truly powerless.

    Like in the UK…. we where just TOLD by the Queen,
    “” hey people the Government will be spying on you from now on”" (uk cispa)
    No media outcry or fuck all… the .gov gets the Queen to do their dirty work.
    What can the people do about it ?
    MILLIONS protested Iraq war / student fees etc….and…..??….. fuck all.

    We have to kick out the corrupt snobs who are detached from regular culture.
    Voting pirate party is the only way !

    • blah

      It’s not true that there’s been no media outcry over the UK Communications BIll. Every British newspaper that I can think of has criticised it. There are many politicians that are very uncomfortable with it, even within the parties in government. I don’t think it will succeed.

      • no faith in you

        Don’t believe you.

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    As always very well said.

  • Adam

    Thank you for a good article Rick, but unfortunately most members of the public aren’t aware of the larger issues.

    Most people are willing to say that copyright infringement is theft, while themselves infringing the monopoly on a personal level.

    The problem is that most people are hypocrites. One girl I know and whom I have given much downloaded stuff recently spoke to me about the Pirate party.
    She simply repeated the claim that breaking copyright law is tantamount to theft while conveniently forgetting how she has herself benefitted from not obeying the law.

    Of course, I’ll never going to do anything for her again. or talk to her.

    Not until copyright infringement is treated like actual theft and all violators hanged from the highest trees can we hope to wheat out the hypocrites and moral enablers of the copyright monopoly.

    If copyright law was actually enforced as written, no one could freeride on violating the law while opposing the Pirate Party’s manifesto as irresponsible socialism.

    How many are violating the copyright monopoly everyday? The number should logically correspond to the potential voting base for the PP, but personal conduct has often little impact on political views.
    Currently as written the copyright law is easy to violate, easy to uphold as morally correct, and impossible to enforce fairly and equally.
    It leaves us with the worst of all worlds.

  • Chicken Eater

    Copyright should never override freedom ! 

  • http://twitter.com/YabbaDabbaTru YabbaDabbaTru

    * Stands and Applauds *

    Thank you sir, Thank you…

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  • Anon

    I am absolutely flabbergasted that this seems to be the prevailing view. When did people forget that legislators, and not corporations, have the final say over our laws?

    It’s not that people don’t realise that the corporations don’t have the final say, they do, it’s that people realise how corrupt the system is and how it’s the corporations that are actually running governments with their bought politicians.

    • Anonymous

      I was going to say that too but then I understood what Rick is saying.  The politicians and their staff were bought but what helped that was the copyright issue that up until recently none of us really thought about.  I think Rick is reminding us that we can push thru the corruption and get the legislation changed and the copyright legislation will be easy as the pollies will swing the other way when they hear our voices – which are getting louder.  In short I think Rick is saying “Dont resign yet, there’s work to do and we will win”

      • Anon

        I hope you’re right. But the recent UK local council elections less that 33% turned out! This is for LOCAL elections.

    • Sdza

      Look at Netherlands, even have net-neutrality in the law (all data treated equally). All downloading is legal! Real land of the free, don’t have to buy weed on the street, you can get stuff without poison in the store. You know, that one of a kind country.

      All it took was 1 corrupt judge. Same guy every time. Anti-piracy just file paperwork until they get him and then continue case. People try to get him off the case, all fails. They managed to even make proxies to TPB illegal.

      Not hosting anything. A proxy. Even worse, you are not allowed to explain to others how to use a proxy to get to TPB. In the most open democracy i can think of.

      1 judge and a bunch of guys with unlimited funds to keep trying.

      I’d rather spend my time building a program/system that can never be stopped or monitored or blocked, then fight a battle where they have the advantage.

  • Anonymous

    “Why are people seriously thinking that the copyright industries have the final say in shaping society?”

    That, should be on the Google front page.

  • Guest

    “Why are people seriously thinking that the copyright industries have the final say in shaping society?”

    Because the copyright industries are wealthy and all the relevent politicians are massive, massive whores? 

    “When did people forget that legislators, and not corporations, have the final say over our laws?”

    Well, 99% of the legislators seem to work for the corporations, so I’d say they do actually have final say over our laws. In any case, the people sure as shit don’t.

    Which is why the Pirate Parties all over the world are vitally important. We need a political revolution to dismantle the status quo, and we need it now. 

    • Anonymous

      Then join or vote for the pirate party.  One thing sure in politics, if you start a party and get more than 2 or 3 % of the votes, the establishment falters and quakes in their boots, they sit up and look and get very worried.  We had a party here in Australia called One-Nation and although their views were controversal they got 3% or something like that.  The establishment panicked.  They ended up putting the leader in gaol for something.

  • Masa

    I remember censorship. Old people do. Even my father was pro Internet censorship.
    I had to teach my father, now he understands…

    • Fanden

      You need to explain more.

  • Lulz

    There should be a kickstarter to fund sending a hard copy of this to every government official in the U.S.

  • Gearmentation


    When did people forget that legislators, and not corporations, have the final say over our laws?”  DUH.  What do you think the Occupy Movement is protesting?

    • Anon

      DUH, that’s just another handful of people.

  • fudge bear

    Your idealism is easy to subscribe to, but a common shortcoming of all leftist politics is that they are inherently alienated from reality, which is the case here as well.

    Although we might think that our elected officials would be independent and incorruptible, in reality democracy – a very powerful force on its own – is socially only second to the economics. Apart from the copyright mob, this paradigm can be today witnessed in action in the handling of the European sovereign debt crisis, which has indefinitely suspended the self-determination of the Hellenic Republic. It will also suspend democracy in Spain and France, should the monetary crisis spread.

    The  future is shaped by the economics, and the players who control the property in the present day will also control our very future if they play their dollars right. The real problem is the corruption, but it simply can not be eradicated by voting any democratic party, because democracy is inherently subordinate to the power of money.

    • Ben

       Exactly which is why we need to democratise the economy, I mean 99% of companies have a facist structure to them. If democracy is good for politics then how come we haven’t copied it over to the economy which is where the real power lies (Shareholder democracy doesn’t count as democracy isn’t $1 = 1 vote).

      • Anonymous

        Actually that’s what we have. And 99% of the citizenry are happily handing over their money for the least scrupulous to handle.

        That’s where I myself facepalm. Yes, we don’t like the situation but it is with their wallets people have cast their vote. And then whine about it.

        If we didn’t want the “1%”, then why did we all stand in line in order to hand them our cash?

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  • Ben

    I couldn’t stop laughing when i read ” Their interest is not the public interest.” I don’t think any corporation has any interest in the public interest, after all under law they have to put profits and shareholders first. The reason why people have lost faith in reform is just look to the banking crisis. Everyone is being told its their fault for loading themself with to much debt (even though banks and goverments actively promoted people take out loans and mortgages to encoruage growth, they are still saying that today) and yet when the banks were giving out loans and mortgages they failed to do any due diligence. That is unlawful behaviour and yet not one banker has been sent to prision yet, so if we can’t even put the criminals who caused the biggest economic crises of this generation away what chance has anyone got of copyright reform. Plus look at what’s going on in the UK with murdoch, both the major political parties were in bed with him.

    • governmentmule

       Totally agree Ben. Motherfuckin government started the whole mess. They encouraged the banks to give these loans and reduced the rates. As a matter of fact they forced the banks to do it. The banks were already corrupt but this gave them more room to fuck borrowers.

      The government is corrupt, the banks are corrupt, Wall Street and large corporations are corrupt so why the fuck should we pay taxes to the mafia sons of bitches?

      Fuck you Uncle Sam! You lyin sax of shit. Guess you black suited bastards will be knockin at my door now. No wonder everyone hates the USA.

      • Ben

        Yer, totallly agree. Goverment’s have been captured and corrupted, but lets not forget that when good people are in goverment, the goverment can do awesome things like the creation of the National Health Service (I live in the UK). Now I know most americans bitch and moan at our “socialised” health system (I’m guessing not many have used it, I mean I can walk into my doctors with any illness and get treatmeant without money being an issue), but its an example of what good goverment can do, and I don’t think you will find many people especially poor people like myself who would want to get rid of it. Now our stupid and corrupt goverment wants to privatise it and turn it over to private companies (the bastards). We all know how this will end, the private companies will cut as much of the cost’s of treating people as they can (either by not hiring properly trained staff or by not buying enought or low quality supplies) this will then lead to a malpractice law suit which means the private company will go bust (therefore the people who ran it don’t have to pay any compensation) and the taxpayer and the NHS will be left to pick up the pieces.

    • Anonymous

      considering the amount of harm done to so many over so long a period by so few, and which is still going on, perhaps someone can tell me how it can be in the slightest bit right for none of the bankers that caused the Worldwide financial crisis to not be held accountable, to not get massive fines, to not get any jail time, yet some poor fucker gets locked up and/or $100,000s in fines for sharing half a dozen songs? that’s called justice? there’s no corruption here?

      what Rik is saying in the article may well be true, but the people ain’t got a hope in hell of getting anything changed! the system is far too corrupt!!

  • Chus

    Democracy is going to completely die a death in the UK as things stand at present. 

    The Queen’s Speech has made it clear that David Cameron’s UK
    Government
    intends to press ahead with what amounts to the greatest threat to Civil
    Liberty
    in living memory for most of us in the UK.

    The Government wants to have ‘one’ year’s storage of every UK citizens
    emails, land and mobile phone calls,
    phone nos called, and entire web browsing history. The Police and the
    Intelligence service will be given unlimited access,
    without warrant or reason being needed, or asked for.

    They SAY they will not be looking at content, but once they have access,
    behind closed doors, who knows?

    The fact is that GCHQ at Cheltenham has enough storage capacity to hold
    these records for SEVEN years or more,
    and previous assurances regarding Health and Safety legislation and
    supposed Anti-terrorism legislation have proved totally
    worthless, with Councils tackling the pettiest things using this sort of
    legislation, including snooping on people’s private property
    using CCTV.

    Considering that it will just drive Terrorists, Paedophiles/Paedophile
    groups and serious criminals underground using proxies, VPN,
    changed DNS servers for each online session, and highly encrypting all
    their messages, it will actually make it harder to catch all
    these sorts
    of people, while totally removing individual privacy, the right to a
    private life without all our electronic activity and communication
    being constantly monitored, our human rights vanishing and our civil
    liberties such as free speech totally removed.

    All it takes is some corrupted policemen, corrupted Chief Constables or
    some bent policemen in contact with journalists for anything to happen.

    Inference will be used and the onus on each and every one of us will be to
    prove we arrived at an illegal site accidentally, rather than
    deliberately.

    Once they have access, emails such as this one will be blocked and banned.

    Opposition politicians will be open to arrest and blackmail. etc. And all
    the rest of it.

    • Ben

       I was going to say back to the days of using the postal service instead of email, but thats fast becoming unaffordable.

    • governmentmule

       I feel your pain on these issues. In the US they have already wiped their asses with the Constitution so many times it is not readable. I saw a documentary where there was an interview with some ex NSA (National Security Agency) guy who the US government has tried to crucify. He was warning people (government and civilians) about how the government was collecting information.

      They are building a huge repository and have been collecting every communication (emails, phone calls, etc) from every possible way and are keeping copies and recordings. This has gone on here before but not on this scale.

      If the US is doing it other countries will follow. People need to stand up and stop cooperating with our “Government Masters”. Refuse to be controlled or we all suffer increasingly. If enough people have the same mentality the government could be on its knees tomorrow.

    • Anonymous

      Australia has a committee looking into Data Rentention at the moment.  Also one of the laws floating around that some would like passed is being able to force people to decrypt.

  • Anonymous

    I am not letting any of my cash go to MAFIAA Content.I have been doing that for years.And I am 56 years old and an original punk rocker since 1976.I stopped supporting Big Labels by 1979 or early 1980.By 1976 the only things I got from Big Labels were some Ramones, some Sire Records stuff, and a few other Artists.
    I always supported the little guy.60′s Garage Bands & Unknown Psych & Hard Rock was my forte before punk.
    I for one will never allow the MAFIAA a way into my wallet.I have Censored them back.And my Voting will change by next Election as I am sick of supporting the same corrupt assholes and system.
    Never give up people !!!

  • Anonymous

    Corporations control politics.

    • Ben

       That’s why I say we need to change the economy from facist to democracy. I have no idea how to do this but I’m sure as a group society can come up with an idea. Once upon a time companies used to care, they even built hospitals, schools and houses for their workers. Now it’s “screw those greedy workers, why should they get benifets and a decent wage when its us board members and managers who come up with the money making ideas”.

  • emissio

    What if the international financial institutions of the west TOGETHER with the legislators, could only see reforming the patent laws as ‘a great chance for economic growth’? That’s the only way to get something drastic done these days.

    Open-source – sharing communities are so much more civil really. Compared to the ever increasing closed-source – sealed-off civilization we’re becoming. 

    • Ben

       I’m sad to say but if you proposed that in america many of the right wingers would scream and shout either “COMMUNISM” or “SOCIALISM”

      • Ibkb

        Capitalism is great look at Greece look at France
        neither do I believe in Communism” or “Socialism” I believe in Balance

        Zeus Bless Greece

        • Theoreticalnonsense

           Capitalism without corruption would be fine, but we know that it will never be that way.

      • Anonymous

        At which point in time you ask them, with a baffled mien: “You mean Thomas Jeffersson was a commie?!

        A lot of the US right-wing has completely forgotten what it means to be a liberal conservative. It’s time they be reminded. Start quoting Jeffersson and Franklin at them and inform the the founding fathers beg to differ with what they’re saying.

      • Anonymous

        Will you shut up about the “right wingers.” Who do you think runs Hollywood and what political affiliation do they and actors, writers, etc. belong to? That’s right, the Democratic party. Your precious liberals are to blame as well. 

        Will you people stop trying to make this into a left versus right thing? 

        It is about greed. Both the left and right can easily be blamed. Look at the fundraising dinner that Obama just had. How do you think Clooney and company could afford to give all that money? 

        And no, I’m not some “right winger.” Both sides of the political spectrum are equally corrupt. I’m just tired of seeing everyone throwing the right under the bus while refusing to see the reality of the situation in their own party.

        • Ben

          It’s not so much right wing ideology. Its just that those of us outside of america can see that the mainstream right wing in america is extreme. I mean just look at issues of gay marriage  and abortion. We all know both sides are corrupt and work for other interest’s, its just the impression i get from friends and family is that they think we are less likely to go to war with Iran with Obama in charge then say Mitt Romley. Also look at Fox “News”, you know the comedy channel. I’m not saying right or left is better (I personally believe its about balance some left wing policies are good some right wing ones are good), its just the impression from oversea’s is that americas right wing is extreme and nutty

  • Guest

    Those comments are sad but not surprising, reddit is rather spineless.
    Evidently boosting confidence must also be a good for the politically active pirate.
    Hell, with a cause as important as freedom at stake the chances of success are actually irrelevant, you’ve just got to keep trying until you succeed. Any other course is defeat and when defeat means oppression your only option is to fight regardless of the odds.

  • Anonymous

    Hardest thing in the world is to have enough patience to listen to others long enough to hear what they don’t know. 

    If we’re among those lucky enough to have heard all our lives that we’re the smartest person in the class (perhaps the school, perhaps the city), our greatest weakness might be the habit of not listening as a matter of principle. 

    Are you ever struck with the certainty that if YOU know something, then absolutely every single other human being on the planet MUST know IT also? 

    Allmost makes it not worth taking the time to tell others what we know, doesn’t it?

    Rick Falkvinge’s most intractable problem is precisely that the vast mass of humanity has no clue; is not in the least aware of; has no particular interest in learning about; cannot afford to buy the books or take the time for; never got an education in; and, in any case, they’ve had no “personal” experience with copyright laws or copyright monopolies. 

    The fact that Rick Falkvinge and two or three or even five or ten million of his global followers are painfully aware that Corporate control of Intellectual property under existing Copyright Law will inevitably lead to the Nullification of Individual Civil Liberties and the entrenchment of Corporatist Government does NOT mean that a meaningful preponderance of the Six Billion other people on this planet are awake or listening. 

    The fact that every other post on Torrent Freak takes this knowledge as OBVIOUS does not mean that it IS obvious to the people that you meet on any given day in any given European or American city. 

    How can so many people think that “copyright holders will always get their way” or that “politicians have all been bribed to do the bidding of the corporations” or “that the judges are too stupid to make fair rulings” or that “our votes don’t REALLY count” or that “only money matters in the end” or that “the press is secretely controlled by rich people” or that “they’ll slaughter us like chickens in the street like they did the Egyptian protesters”? 

    Answer:  They don’t know any better! 

    That IS Rick Falkvinge’s Problem.  That IS our problem. 

    That IS Rick Falkvinge’s job.  That is ALL of our jobs. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

      “How can so many people think that “copyright holders will always get their way”" etc etc.

      That’s because americans are brainwashed to believe everything they’re told.
      I mean I was amazed while talking to an american friend of mine.
      While I do the occasional copyright talk with friends, and we agree in general that they should do something about it, I then talked to an american friend of mine…
      He said it’s illegal to download, the end! You just want free stuff!
      I told him what about your private communication that they penetrate into?
      He told me “wtf are you talking about you just want free stuff”.
      Yes, that’s the people nowadays….
      They won’t listen, even if they have no clue.
      They won’t believe, even when it’s the truth.
      They won’t revolt, even when they’re being fed lies and tales all their lives.

      Wake up world! Wake up America!

      • Ben

        Sounds me to like a right wing american, the one thing I love about the UK is that even though we have our fair share of corrupt politicians (by that i mean almost all of them), is that most of the people are reasonable. I mean most people in the UK see downloading stuff off the internet the same as recording a song from the radio or a movie from TV (both are illegal, and neither led to lost revenue for anyone involved). People at the end of the day BUY WHAT THEY LIKE. Nothing better then having your favorite  movie in a case with the covers and extras. Just wait for them to accuse a few more grannies of downloading gay porn and all this nonsense will stop (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2008/12/whoops-uk-senior-citizens-targeted-for-downloading-gay-pr0n/).

      • Anonymous

        So, let me get this straight. You talked to one American who you suggested was brainwashed, therefore all Americans must be brainwashed.
        What a joke….

    • And the solution is….

      You are 100% correct, in much of the problem lies with educating the masses, but there is an additional solution at hand.

      We live in an internet age, but also an age where pretty much every computer owner also owns a printer. This potentially wields massive power that previous “awareness” groups throughout history could only dream of. How many printing presses through the ages were seized by regimes seeking to control what the public was told?

      The key is to draft up a professional flyer pointing out in simple bullet points and short text, the erosion of rights, the lobbying by corporations, the need for copyright reform, the apparent decreasing power of their vote to corporations, etc etc (without sounding like a bunch of extremists, or fruit loops), with directions to take them to websites for further information in their respective language.

      Then the push is needed to get it viral (Heck, get TPB and others to add it as a nfo like file (but in pdf, or jpg) to each download much like Demonoid does) and as many people as possible to print 50 – 100 copies off on their home printer and drop them in mail boxes, hand them out at schools, shopping centres, outside sporting events. In such a method, a little by many goes a very long way.

  • MadAsASnake

    I’m not so sure that people are resigning – not on the issue. Look at how persistent filesharing is. It continues in strength because there are a large number of people doing this because they don’t see that they are doing anything wrong (and for the most part are not – why should the studios care how we timeshift stuff we HAVE paid for for instance). In many places, the “official” stuff either does not exist (Australia for instance) or, like Eastern Europe, is priced well beyond the means of the average citizen. At worst, it’s jaywalking stuff. Where the malaise sets in is getting the political change in veiw. We see all these 3/6 strikes schemes, the DEA here in the UK (agreed on a private yacht in the caribbean by a single corrupt politician), and the endless harrassment of innocents through the courts. We see blatant corruption in so many of these cases – and the mainstream politicians don’t lift a finger. Filesharing is a trivial issue but the damage the copyright industries are wreaking on our societies is not. Pirate Parties are growing, and are at the point where their agenda will start to bite. It is simple liberties that are at stake. The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance, and we, as citzens, have as much invested in the laws of our society as anyone else. We have the right to question our policy makers, to hold them accountable. We need to.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CH76QIKXYIFA2FZ2DXC6NUZ24A Andrei

    I agree in principle BUT: “public servants” are not split between easily lobbyable and those that are harder to lobby.

    Copyright industry’s various fundations are important campaign donors in most countries I know. Sure, the situation might be different but there are areas in the world where these donations do influence policymaking.

    I was never under the impression that those elected actually stand up for the people who voted, not in my country. I know some countries where elected officials do stand up every now and then but so far they seem the exception from the rule.

    • Anonymous

      That’s what clinched it for me. The pirates I helped send to the european parliament are doing a very good job representing me.

      And for at least one generation that should be the norm. Once the pirate party grows big and old enough…that’s when we have to start looking out for the careerist opportunists.

      • Anonymous

        Seems to me that the fact that you stepped out of “the box” by choosing to send Pirate Party representatives to Parliment instead of picking from the “official” list is exactly the transoming act we all are praying for. 

        However, it matters greatly that that “act”, must first be preceeded by a transformation in perspective which is presently outside the range of possibility
        for the vast majority of the civil neighbors we must reach in order to assemble the authority and power needed to displace the entrenched corporate stats quo. 

        PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA are proof positive that the necessary transformation in perspective is not only possible; but, actual and imminent. 

        Yet, anyone who thinks that we are in the middle of the process is missing the point.  Those of us who articulate these changes in perspective; and thereby encourage others to act outside the “box”of the established order are yet orphans wailing in the wilderness. 

        Most people have NO idea of what’s at stake in the existing corporate control of Intellectual Property. 

        We will be asked to beleive that what we’re asking for is “free” stuff. 

        It will not be easy to persuade our neighbors that what’s really at stake in the existing corporate control of Intellectual Property is not “free stuff” but our freedoms. 
         

        • Anonymous

          In sweden the paradox is that a great many people of younger and older generation alike are pro-filesharing. With 20% estimated filesharers in the online community they couldn’t be anything else.

          The main problem is rather that every swede today has grown up being perfectly “sheltered”. He knows, more often than not, that “Daddy knows best”. All evidence to the contrary, people in Sweden still believe in the wholesomeness of the omnipresent state. It’s all they’ve ever known.

          So when you talk about filesharing everyone is on our side and just votes in another direction because economy and jobs are considered more important. And when we talk about civil liberties, people either stare blankly and say “Hey, if you’ve got nothing to hide you’ve got nothing to fear, right?”.

          Like I said. All evidence to the contrary. Any citizen fitting in the “normative” mold feels safe. Anyone else isn’t really worthwhile bothering about.

          Hence you can literally talk yourself deaf to swedes about the fact that we have a mass surveillance system in place which puts that of the DDR to shame – and they’ll blink a little, deny it since “this is sweden, such things don’t happen here”, or they’ll blithely assume that anyone being a “normal” “law-abiding” citizens, has nothing to fear. And that anyone feeling disturbed about the mobile phone being a state-controlled tracking device must by default be suspect.

          Some people have noted that despite Sweden being the most openly “liberal” country regarding HBT, for instance, or dissenting views or hobbies, the real test comes when someone tries to claim said rights. At which point everyone in the platonic fold simply ignores those weird people and start wishing they’d go away.

          Much of the swedish population is simply caught up in this “entrenched peasant village” mindset. Stick out too much and you get hammered down or ostracized by your community.

          At this point when you start debating civil rights all you get is what you said “But you just want stuff for free”. Even though it isn’t exactly a secret that the right to a private life has largely been abolished.

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  • SLOTHS

    you mark my words, if any of these shitty laws pass you’ll soon enough see the droves crying about how their libertys have been taken away and how disgusted they are with the government spying on them. albeit way to late!

  • Myfake

    absolutely great article

    this article should be sent to all politicains in european parlament

  • myFakeID

    really he can’t be that naive -  from what I have been reading, yes RIAA and MPAA and /or other special interest groups have been writing laws on all sorts of things like Copyright, SOPA, PIPA, CIPSA, et al. Then our lovely congress and senate rubber stamp those laws and pass them, in some state legislatures unchanged from their original wording or intent including “add senators name here”. While this was written from an EU perspective, American law is much more messed up, and yes, the copyright industries are writing the laws, and our congress/senate blithely pass them sometimes in secret, sometimes on an advanced schedule, sometimes without any comments at all.

    • Anonymous

      There was an article in a swedish newspaper some time ago which revealed that many suggestions put up for a vote in parliament was, in fact, written completely by one lobby or another as a “reasonable suggestion” to an MP.

      No one cared. After all, in Sweden politicians work for the good of the people…

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  • Roman

    Can someone please explain this ‘baseline five years’ thing? Five years since first published or five years after the author’s death?

  • Dsfsdfsd

    I do not have at all the feeeling that the americans I regularly talk
    to have a greater support of copyright than, say, Germans. The whole
    filesharing started in the US in the first place.

    The major reason why there is no Pirate movement in the US is because its impossible to get a third party in general.
    Neither OWS nor the TeaParty are actually an own party, and they havent
    even tried, because they know that it is borderline impossible.

    The answers Rick got are also probably by americans who know how much influence MAFIAA has on their goverment and how little chance they have to get a similar influence.

    * “but it won’t happen.”* “This would be fantastic but will never happen”* “They can suggest anything they like”

    This is not a sound of people siding with the MAFIAA itself because
    they support copyright, this is the sound of american people realizing
    that they dont have as much influence on their own (american) goverment
    as the MAFIAA has.

    You wouldnt hear, for example, german Pirates with that passive, resigned tone, because they know that in their system, they now will
    be able to change stuff, and that the german equivalents of the
    RIAA/MPAA are literally shitting their pants right now. Yesterday we had
    elections in the german Bundesland Northrhine-Westphalia (Rick himself
    was at the election party in Düsseldorf btw), and upon the Pirate Party
    winning 8% of the seats in the parliament, people were chanting stuff
    like “Berlin, Berlin, we’re going to Berlin.” You wont hear something
    like “This would be fantastic but will never happen” there, this is only
    something you say when you know you dont have a chance in hell to win,
    and in the US this is indeed the case because reps/dems have rigged the
    voting system to mathematically favor bipartizanship.

  • O0mg

    QUOTE ” I am absolutely flabbergasted that this seems to be the prevailing view. When did people forget that legislators, and not corporations, have the final say over our laws? ”

    well when the legislator started to get brown envelop and passed law people didnt want even if we did go in the street to say NO …. now will this change or not ?!

  • Anon

    Reading a lot of the comments in reply it is amazing to see that many still do not get the point . Let the copyright czars do there thing , just don’t let them convince you that it is they who will make the change for the better. We as the public have shown our  disdain for them by sharing what they want to sell to us. We as the public ,every one of us, should be ignoring the Riaa , laughing at them and changing the rules in our favor , not letting them insist that it is only in there interest that copyright exists. If i write a book or make a movie , i do not have to bow down to their copyright rules and suggestions. I can make the movie or book free, i can take 5 years of copyright for my creation and then make it free i do not have to listen to the riaa or there crazy monopolistic requests, and requests they are as i do not have to abide by them if i do not want to. And if enough people realize that the riaa was only a gatekeeper before the Internet provided what they charged a fortune for, they will just fade into the background noise on the internet.

  • The Aussie

    All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

    In this case…

    All that is necessary for censorship to triumph is for good men to do nothing

    Or…

    All that is necessary for the MAFIAA to triumph is for good men to do nothing

  • foff

    The bigger question is why doesn’t the Riaa resign to the will of the people? Copyright for distribution purposes lasts about 5 minutes after the retail copies of disks are available thanks to piracy.  Even then piracy is way overrate in it’s effect.  Of the 20 or so people that are close to me only three of us know how to download and only I am a serious downloader.  Which unscientifically represents only about 5% of the population.  So how can the RIAA or anyone claim huge losses from only 5% and 5% perhaps only one tenth or less would ever consider buying or going to the movie.  So we are talking about nazi laws to help save less then 1% of possible profits?  

    The bigger question is how long should an artist have control over their creation.  I can’t answer that,  after all if I created a character and wrote a book I would want control for a undetermined time.  On the other hand once something is released to the public when do my rights end and theirs begin.  For economical purposes I think it is safe to say the life of most books and movies and music is far less then 20 years.  Most books go out print within a year or two and movies older then a year or so are usually forgotten.  So 20 years is ample time to ring revenue out of creations.  I really like the idea of a registration fee.  There ought to be an equivalent to property tax, after all if this is intellectual property and it is considered property then it ought to be taxed as such.  This would also force those owners of copyright to decide if it is worth it to maintain the copyright and would result in a lot of stuff coming into public domain sooner rather than later.

  • Anonymous

    if the copyright lasted for much shorter times, perhaps there would be better films on the TV at Xmas and other holiday periods, without us having to pay extra (we’re already charged in one way or another for what we watch) and stop us from having to chose between the same bloody rubbish year in, year out!

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  • Anonymous

    I’m right with Falkvinge on this.  A good example is Black March, the boycott that didn’t work.  Why didn’t it work?  Well, partially because it was very poorly publicized. I think that not enough people knew about it.  But even if they had known about it I doubt that the Americans, for example, would have had the will power to follow through.  Despite all their whining, and they do plenty of it, with few exceptions (like the Occupy movement) they’d rather not put themselves out when apparently most of them can still afford a new $30  Blu Ray.

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  • Anonymous

    as much as i agree with the majority of what is in the various articles that Rik writes, i believe the main reason for what is perhaps looked on as complacency by the public is the LACK OF REAL LEADERSHIP to counter what the various self-interested corporations and politicians keep instilling on to the public. when (corrupt) judges rule in certain directions because they have interests and involvement with particular industries that benefit from the way that ruling goes, and when Political Parties have their right to freedom of speech curtailed, how can the public feel anything except useless when it comes to trying to get change? in the case of file sharing and copyright infringement, the public are labelled as ‘thieves who want everything for free’. that is not and never has been the case for the majority of people. getting ripped off and being denied things for fair prices etc is the crime and people dont want that any more. people being used as scape goats by being sued to prop up an industry that has had so many failures is damn bad (one film has just broken all records for the movie industry but i bet the studio will soon start complaining about how much it has lost on this movie and state why it isn’t paying any of those that appeared in the movie) but to go as far as having people imprisoned for downloading a few songs or movies, when those that caused a worldwide financial crisis affecting millions of people get no punishment at all, is deplorable. equally deplorable is that governments and courts are going along with these punishments whilst ignoring/protecting those in the financial sector. where is justice? it sure as fucking hell isn’t here, is it!!

  • Mixed Media

     ”No entrepreneur has the right to shape society to guarantee themselves a profit.” That’s why slavery is outlawed. But boy are some people in the US still bummed about that!

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  • http://www.tonnopro.com/ Raquel Smallwood

    This would be fantastic but will never happen because companies have a
    vested interest in maintaining their ability to collect royalties
    indefinitely.

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  • Open

    It’s sad, but you have no idea how discouraged the U.S. progressive community is. Media consolidation,  workers rights, “free” trade, environmental issues, unjust foreign wars , they have fought and lost every time. 

    Now everyone is paying the price for losing those battles. The corporate oligarchy owns the political process. 

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