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5 Reasons Why the US Domain Seizures Are Unconstitutional

Last week, Bryan McCarthy, the 32-year-old operator of ChannelSurfing.net, was arrested on charges of criminal copyright infringement. This arrest has once again raised questions about the seizure of domains operated by those that are accused, but not convicted, of copyright infringement related crimes. Critics ranging from bloggers to individual rights advocates to Senators have rightfully questioned the constitutionality of these seizures.

The most serious constitutional issues with the domain seizures arise because the Government does not provide any notice to the domain owners prior to seizing them. One moment, their normal site is up at their web address, the next moment, all that is up at their web address is a DHS/ICE seal.

Without knowing what they have been accused of or having the opportunity to defend their site, the Government has repurposed the owners’ private property.

channelsurfingIn order to seize the domain names without notice to the owners, the Government uses a procedure that permits it to bring an action directly against a piece of property used in the commission of a crime –in this case the domain name– rather than the owner. This type of action (called an “In Rem” forfeiture) is not new. In the past, the Government has used In Rem actions for purposes such as an action against an automobile used to transport bootleg whiskey.

An In Rem action does not necessarily require the Government to wait until a court hears both sides and rules that the property has been used for illegal purposes and is subject to forfeiture. Instead, in many cases, the law is written so that all the Government has to do is to sign an affidavit that demonstrates probable cause for the forfeiture, which is signed by a magistrate judge and the Government can seize the property.

To carry out the In Our Sites program, ICE has treated these domains like any other instrument used for common theft and judges have signed off on their affidavits. The U.S. Attorney has publicly exclaimed that website operators like Brian McCarthy are hiding “behind the anonymity of the Internet to make a quick buck through what is little more than high-tech thievery.”

The Government’s view on the domain seizures seems to be overly simplistic and it ignores the fact that a domain is not the same as a gun or a boat used to transport narcotics. A domain is a unique combination of different types of property, including an address, a valuable asset, a brand and a medium for speech.

Any Government seizure of private property raises Constitutional questions. Here, I will outline the five most pressing Constitutional questions that have arisen because of the manner in which the Government has chosen to seize this unique type of property.

1. The Government Seizes The Domains Without Prior Notice And Hearing.

The Due Process clause of the Fifth Amendment guarantees that “[n]o person shall … be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Traditionally, this means that individuals must receive notice and a meaningful hearing before the Government takes away their property.

This right to prior notice and hearing is not a minor legal technicality. It is an indispensible aspect of due process. It is the only way an individual can protect himself from the Government arbitrarily or mistakenly depriving him of property before it happens.

Unfortunately, it is not that simple. If due process invariably required prior notice and hearing, that would be the end of the analysis. The domain name owners received no notice or opportunity to give their side of the story before their domain names were seized. The complication comes from the fact that, over the years, the courts have carved out certain limited exceptions to the pre-deprivation notice and hearing requirement. Although the Government has proceeded as if the domain seizures fit into one of those exceptions, it is highly questionable. The Supreme Court has explicitly limited those exceptions to “extraordinary situations where some valid governmental interest is at stake that justifies postponing the hearing until after the event.”

Is the In Our Sites program one of those “extraordinary situations where some valid governmental interest is at stake?” Determining whether the program should be allowed to compromise a citizen’s due process rights basically involves balancing the importance of the individual’s property interest against the Government’s interest in taking property prior to notice and a hearing.

In the past, the courts have permitted the Government to delay notice and hearing to protect important public interests such as the ability to collect taxes or protect the public from contaminated food. However, the court refused to allow the Government to delay notice and a hearing before seizing a home, in part because a home is too important a private property interest.

Domain owners cannot argue that their property interest in a domain is as important as a person’s property interest in his own home. However, whether the owners are using it for innocent or criminal purposes, a domain is critically important to its owner. The domain is how other people, computers or search engines can find a site. When a domain is seized, the content gets locked away until a new domain is created. A domain is also a critical marketing and branding tool and, in some cases, like the sex.com domain name that sold for $13 million last October, a domain can even be a lucrative asset.

On the other side of the equation, the Government cannot argue that the public interest in preventing copyright violations is as important as its interest in public safety or collecting revenue. Clearly, the Government has some interest in preventing copyright violations. The question then is whether preventing copyright violations is important enough to America to justify setting aside its citizens’ fundamental constitutional rights by seizing property before a hearing.

The Government’s justification for the pre-hearing seizure is not made clear by its affidavits. In its November 2010 affidavit, the Government was claiming that the seizures of domains that provide links to copyrighted material were necessary to prevent third parties from “acquiring the names and using them to commit additional crimes” and “continuing to access” the websites. Commentators were critical of this justification because it is so unlikely that the seizure will prevent anyone from accessing the material and even more unlikely that a third party would take over the domain name. In the most recent affidavit, the Government limited the justification for seizure to the vague claim that the websites were being used to commit or facilitate a crime.

On balance, ownership of a domain is too important a private right and preventing copyright infringement is not an important enough public goal to justify seizure without prior notice or hearing. In the last 50 years, the courts have trended toward due process protection, even for procedures that had been traditionally permitted. In light of that trend, the Government’s basis for setting aside due process requirements should be found to be insufficient. Without notice and hearing, these seizures violate the Fifth Amendment.

2. Seizures of Protected Speech Without a Hearing Violates The First Amendment.

Since the seized domain names are for websites that, at least arguably, contain speech, the seizures must also comply with the freedom of speech provisions of the First Amendment. Generally, the First Amendment does not permit prior restraint, which is when the Government censors material before it is distributed. The Supreme Court has deemed prior restraint as “the most serious and the least tolerable infringement on First Amendment rights.” Instead of prior restraint, courts typically require the Government to allow the publication of the speech and then to sanction the offending party afterward.

There is a deepening debate about whether the domain name seizures are a prior restraint that violates the First Amendment. As Techdirt points out, like with due process, the Government must provide prior notice and hearing before it restrains “potentially protected speech, with the intent to take material out of circulation.” Seizing an entire domain has the hallmarks of a prior restraint because in doing so, ICE is indiscriminately taking both infringing and non-infringing material out of circulation.

On the other hand, supporters of the constitutionality of ICE’s actions, such as Terry Hart, point out that the Supreme Court has permitted prior restraint of certain items, such as obscene materials or threats to national security. However, even these supporters recognize that these exceptions are premised on the Government ensuring a prompt judicial determination. Hart stated that “in effect, the Court recognizes the danger that too long of a temporary restraint on speech-related items can have the effect of a final restraint.” While true, this analysis does not address the differences between obscene material and links to infringing material. Additionally, it would not save ICE’s procedures because the Government has not, in fact, provided an immediate hearing on the seized domains.

Even if the types of sites that have been previously targeted, often consisting of links to other sites, were not a form of protected speech, there is still concern that endorsing these seizures would ultimately lead to the Government seizing the domains of sites expressing viewpoints it deems dangerous. ICE Director John Morton told Politico that the Government was not interested in going after bloggers or discussion boards. Morton said, “We’re not about what is being said by anybody. We’re about making sure that the intellectual property laws of the United States, which are clear, are enforced. When somebody spends hundreds of millions of dollars to develop the next movie or a billion dollars to develop the next heart medicine, the innovation and the enterprise that went into that effort is protected as the law provides. It’s that simple.”

Many commentators are not comforted by the Government’s assurance that they will not use their seizure power to attack anti-establishment viewpoints. Libertarian website, The Activist Post, declared after a round of seizures last month that “we are rapidly approaching a day where information can no longer flow freely on the Internet. We better wake up and share these stories with everyone we know, because tyranny is fast approaching.”

Although we are not there yet, this is a legitimate concern. Even if the Government does not directly go after certain types of speech, what is to stop the DHS from only going after copyright violations on sites with subversive opinions and ignoring copyright violations on pro-Government sites? The effect would be the same as any other prior restraint of speech.

3. There Is No Concern That The Accused Will Flee With Their Domains.

Certain constitutional rights sometimes take a backseat to crucial practical considerations, such as the Government’s concern that property involved in a crime will disappear if it is not immediately seized.

For example, the Supreme Court has allowed seizures without prior notice or hearing in a case involving the seizure of a yacht believed to be used to transport drugs. The Court was swayed by the fact that a yacht is the “sort [of property] that could be removed to another jurisdiction, destroyed, or concealed, if advance warning of confiscation were given.” However, in a later case, the Court found such a seizure against real estate “which, by its very nature, can be neither moved nor concealed,” to be unconstitutional.

A domain is not the same as real estate. Like real estate, a domain has an address and space within which the owner can build, but that space is not confined to finite borders or an address the way that real property is. Despite the differences, a domain is more like real estate than it is like a yacht. A domain can be sold, but it cannot be moved or concealed from the Government without defeating the purpose of having a domain in the first place.

4. There Is An Unacceptable Risk Of Wrongful Seizure.

ICE also unwittingly made its critics’ point last month when it mistakenly seized the domain names of 84,000 websites. The Government had falsely accused the sites of child pornography. This type of large-scale, disastrous mistake illustrates the constitutional deficiencies of the seizures.

To be clear, the Constitution does not demand that the Government always be right. For the Government to be able to effectively seek justice, falsely accused and falsely punished citizens are inevitable tragedies. However, the Constitution does require the Government to institute sufficient procedures that reasonably protect a person’s freedom and property from a wrongful taking.

In many ways, the whole point of due process is to protect citizens from wrongful Government action. The Supreme Court has explained that the right to notice and a hearing prior to a government seizure is for the purpose of enabling an individual “to protect his use and possession of property from arbitrary encroachment-to minimize substantively unfair or mistaken deprivations of property.”

Supporters of the ICE seizures will point to the fact that, despite the lack of notice and hearing, a seizure cannot occur without a judge finding that the Government’s affidavit demonstrates probable cause. However, critics get no comfort from the fact that ICE cannot kick down your virtual door without a judge’s sign off. Last week, during a House Judiciary Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet, California Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren grilled the Obama administration’s Intellectual Property Czar Victoria Espinel about the Constitutional shortcomings of the ICE domain seizures. Espinel attempted to argue that a judge’s sign off amounted to due process. Lofgren tersely countered by saying “With all due respect, judges sign a lot of things.”

See the exchange and Lofgren’s full line of questioning in the video below:

Lofgren makes a good point. Several other commentators have pointed out that judges signed off on the affidavits despite numerous factual and technical errors. The perception that the judge’s review was inadequate was certainly not helped by the fact that Magistrate Judge Margaret Nagle literally used a rubber stamp, rather than a pen, to sign the December affidavits.

In addition to doubts about the adequacy of the factual review, critics such as Oregon Senator Ron Wyden have argued that depriving domain owners of due process is especially problematic because it is still unclear whether certain seized domains are actually violating copyright law. Wyden wrote a scolding letter to the Director of ICE and the Attorney General demanding answers and expressing concern about denying website owners a chance to defend themselves prior to seizure because “there is an active and contentious debate about when a website may be held liable for infringing activities by its users.” Wyden added that the domain seizures “could function as a means of end-running the normal legal process in order to target websites that may prevail in court.”

5. Targeted Sites Are Not Given An Immediate Opportunity To Reclaim Their Domain.

The final Constitutional problem is that not only is there no notice and hearing before the seizure, there is not an immediate and meaningful hearing after the seizure. Most exceptions to due process and freedom of speech restrictions are premised on the promise of an immediate opportunity to defend yourself after the Government has taken your property. Operation In Our Sites has included no such immediate hearing. In fact, according to reports, weeks after the November seizures, site owners were still waiting to learn what it is that their sites had been accused of.

The lack of an immediate opportunity to reclaim a domain is not the only problem. Even if a post-seizure hearing occurred within hours of the seizure, it may be too late to truly compensate a domain name owner’s loss caused by an erroneous seizure.

Commentators such as Larry Downes have correctly pointed out that the seizure of a domain name is somewhat unique because a seizure may work to shut down a website indefinitely. A domain seizure is not like when the Government seizes a car used to solicit a prostitute. If the car is later returned, it still runs as well as it did when it was taken. sWith a domain name seizure, if a user attempts to access a website, but instead finds himself face-to-face with the DHS/ICE seal, even if the domain is later restored, that user will probably never return to the site.

It is even worse for those 84,000 websites falsely accused of child pornography. A visitor attempting to access these websites got an additional message stating: “Advertisement, distribution, transportation, receipt, and possession of child pornography constitute federal crimes that carry penalties for first time offenders of up to 30 years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution.”

Even though these websites were completely innocent, will users come back to sites that the government has publicly accused of child pornography?

David Makarewicz is an attorney practicing internet law in defense of websites and blogs.  Visit Dave at Sites and Blogs or follow him @sitesandblogs to keep up with breaking Internet news affecting websites, bloggers and social media.

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  • Ggust

    first

    • Louhronesz

      retard !

  • Ggust

    first

  • A1255195

    First sentence of part 4 isn’t quite correct – 84,000 websites were on the same domain, not their own separate ones.

    • Anonymous

      Right. It was part of the FreeDNS provider, that’s why the 84k sites were knocked out. Bit of an error as it has been previously stated on TF before..

    • Webdev

      Kind of. They were sub-domains, so in taking down the main domain it took down all 84k sub-domains. The alleged infringement was possibly on ONE of those sub-domains, yet the powers-that-be failed in their investigation of the main domain (or just through complete lack of investigation) to understand the structure of the host’s service and thus their actions were completely irresponsible, if not criminally negligible in that they have effectively libelled tens of thousands of domain owners (albeit ‘sub-domain owners’) and possibly tainted any future business from potential or existing customers.

      The problem with bringing down all of these sub-domains is that many probably only used them as a free web hosting service and pointed their main domain names at the space using domain-masking to cover the fact it’s free webspace.

      Some people would look at this and say ‘cheapskates’ because they hadn’t paid for both domain AND web hosting, but when you work in the web dev trade you quickly find out that the average joe has no idea that domain and web hosting are two completely different things. Many will simply register a domain name they want and THEN go to a web designer/dev and ask them to build a website. The name will be hosted with any one of the myriad registrant services out there (godaddy, UK2, 1-2-3-reg etc) and rather than pay a transfer fee to shift it across to another provider, it’s quite often easier (for small funds-limited companies) to just point it at another webspace (even free hosts) for the first 12 or 24 months until the domain name comes up for renewal, at which point their web guy can simply re-register with a proper host and bring it all together.

      I’ve even known local govt depts to use this method, borne simply out of their initial tech ignorance when they think they’re doing the web company they approach a favour, rather than creating extra hassles.

      • jeb

        “I’ve even known local govt depts to use this method, borne simply out of their initial tech ignorance when they think they’re doing the web company they approach a favour, rather than creating extra hassles. ”

        Registration separate from hosting should not be in any way an “extra hassle” for anyone with any competency – there are thousands of businesses supplying just registration, just hosting, and even just DNS services, as well as every combination thereof. While buying everything from one shop can have some advantages, it can also have some disadvantages.

        The idea that their “web guy” has to wait until something is up for renewal in order to change hosts and/or reset DNS seems to speak more to the incompetence of the “web guy” rather than problems with the domain registration.

  • Anonymous

    lol

  • http://metagora.tumblr.com James Deng

    i’d get out of the US ASAP lol

    • Eloh

      Can’t give up yet, we still got our guns.

      • Anonymous

        So why hasn’t the revolution started yet?

        • And I say hey yea yea eh heh

          it’s already happen … right here right now at thorrentfreak

          at least virtually… stay tuned for the big one :-/

    • Anon

      they aren’t just seizing domains of people in the USA, they are seizing any that fall in their authority which includes all owned by US citizens and all of the .org addresses if I remember correctly.

  • Lulz

    I still want to see a reply to Wyden’s letter…

    • Cofree

      As do I

      • Fo’Sur

        Me fucking three.

    • Violated

      Yes we have been awaiting that reply.

      I am not sure about how long they are allowed to delay when replying to an elected member of congress?

  • https://thepiratebay.org/user/man-o-tor/ manOtor

    Great read!
    Thank you Mr. Makarevicz.
    Just like the previous article about the piracy-study, this article provides hope.
    Hope that something can be done about the seizures and the copywrong fundamentalists.
    I’m looking forward to the first judicial process about this. It should be interseting to see how the highest court there is is going to judge.

    In the video “the Obama administration’s Intellectual Property Czar” (I can’t believe that’s an actual position in american politics :D ) Victoria Espinel says that other countries don’t have similar procedures going on – well, that’s right Victoria.
    if they tried doing that in germany for instance, the elected government would be gone faster than they could say “The pirate bay”!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      The fact that Obama has thirty two such positions should give even more pause…

      • Tater Salad

        Actually, President Obama has 37 so-called ‘czar’ positions. George W. Bush had 33, though. But that never seemed to be much of an issue for anyone at that point, for some reason…

        And no, ‘czar’ is not an actual title. It’s a slang term used mostly by the media to describe a position.

        Victoria Espinel’s official title is Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator.

        • Spellist

          and Czar is pronounced CHAR. The correct spelling would be Tsar!

    • Jeff8500

      I’m pretty sure the term “Czar” is used more as slang; as far as I know, it’s more of an unofficial term than anything else.

      • scaz

        no, they’re called Czars because they act without answering to congress…..just like Executive Orders.

  • Momo

    Awesome analysis. Really really interesting.

  • Chimel31

    Excellent article and blog!

  • Foff

    So what else is new give a government agency a little power and they will find a way to twist laws and become a law unto themselves. Seizing domains is really on the fringe of jurisdiction for this agency. ICE was never intended for that purpose. This really a good example of government abuse of power plain and simple.

  • lol

    usa = retarded country

    • A1255195

      No, US government = retarded government.

      • http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/ Billy Wenge-Murphy

        But if it’s a government “by the people”, and the government is retarded, then…..

        • Anonymous

          the general population in the US is retarded. duh.

        • Dedma

          Winning!

        • Cheekingthomas

          Not all of the people are at fault. The ones who want change are merely outnumbered by those that keep voting for the same two corrupt parties over and over again.

        • DocGerbil100

          I don’t blame any set of voters for the current bad situation of national or international politics.

          • Whether we consider private citizens or political leaders, a given person’s decision about anything can only be made on the strength of the information put into it.

          • The vast majority of information available to a given citizen is largely decided by the mainstream news-media. The vast majority of information available and exposed to political consideration is largely decided by the amount of money a lobbying firm has been given.

          • The vast majority of mainstream news is owned by a very small subset of rich businessmen – in the UK, it’s basically Rupert Murdoch and a few people like him. The same situation applies for the majority of lobbying entities.

          • Garbage in = garbage out.

          :(

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          But if it’s a government “by the people”, and the government is retarded, then…..

          …then Churchill’s quotes about democracy still stand.

          1) “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”

          2) “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

          Seriously though, the US main problem with it’s presidents is due to the fact that it is NOT a democracy but a democratic republic.
          I.e. by the time the candidates are selected, the actual voter input has become so severely diluted that what you end up with is generally the two people who could scrounge up enough funding and approval from the existing structures and weren’t considered to be outright objectionable.

          Which usually means you end up with private interests and NGO’s selecting either of two muppets based on the criteria of which seems to fit better on their hands. Which is the “choice” then presented to the public.

          That doesn’t mean americans are stupid, just that they are, in general, getting shafted by bigger interests.

          So do europeans, of course. The only difference i can see is that the citizens in europeans nations tend to be far more aware of the fact that their “elected leader” will be either a crook or a puppet. Whereas americans to a disturbingly large degree tend to grant their elected president a halo along with the job.

          If GWB could be said to have accomplished one decent thing in office it would be that he finally managed to knock that halo all the way off, spending not only everything he had himself in terms of political credibility but borrowing and wasting what the position he held had in that coin as well. Hopefully resulting in more general criticism levied by the US public on their potential candidates.

  • 1neb

    the fourth Reich. Nazis.

    • Godwin=Lose

      You godwin…

  • DocGerbil100

    Not being a lawyer, I have nothing to add to this – except to say it’s very much appreciated to have an up-to-date and properly-informed expert opinion from a US lawyer here. Thank you very much, Mr Makarewicz, we’re obliged to you. :D

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  • Violated

    I sure hope Joe Biden and the director of DHS/ICE get to read this article.

    You may also want to remind President Obama that he swore to respect and uphold the law. He wanted to show a better example than his predecessor did when the bully nature of George W. Bush led to much law abuse. He set large records on that one that any future President would be hard to beat.

    President Obama may also have issues with things done in his name that violate the constitution but then maybe I give him too much credit.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the clear explanation. I have been angry about this all for some time because it could not have been constitutional. Goes to show that if you do not fight for your rights every day, you simply do not have them.

    • gorehound

      this government really blows.both parties are corrupted by big business.

  • Predator

    “5 Reasons Why the US Domain Seizures Are Unconstitutional”

    The Obama gov is just as criminal as the Bush government.

    They don’t give a shit about the law or the constitution.

    BY THE WAY WE STILL HAVE TO PUT IN PRISON THE WAR CRIMINALS OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AND START PROSECUTING THOSE OF THE CURRENT ONE.

    • Anonymous

      And we should vote for Palin right?

      • http://www.google.com/profiles/108037014675127192334 Binary

        I doubt that’s what Predator is implying.

        • Eralebus

          You have more chance of that happening if, Ron Paul or his son Rand Paul are in office, they’re one of the few congressmen who oppose all these blatant violations of our rights.

  • Guest

    “Traditionally, this means that individuals must receive notice and a meaningful hearing before the Government takes away their property.”

    No you are wrong. This is not enough. They must be a trial by jury even for a civil case.

  • nonW00t

    I thought #1 and #2 were irrelevant anyway because of the goddam “Patriot Act”? But then most of that is unconstitutional, innit?

    • Anonymous

      Had they only used the Patriot Act for matters of Terrorism and National Security then the public would be more understanding but to hide behind it for Copyright Infringement (done by their own average citizens) would only undermine their ability to tackle real terrorists.

      Also I believe it is true to say that no law is above the US Constitution and Bill of Rights even if they pretend to be. Those those two documents are what the country was founded upon and anything that goes against them can be classed anti-American.

      I would more believe the Patriot Act to be one of several things the US Government has done while playing on the fears of the population concerning terrorism. Since the goal of terrorism is to bring fear to a population and to change the nature of that society then the existence of the Patriot Act only goes to highlight that the terrorists did win that battle.

    • Anonymous

      Had they only used the Patriot Act for matters of Terrorism and National Security then the public would be more understanding but to hide behind it for Copyright Infringement (done by their own average citizens) would only undermine their ability to tackle real terrorists.

      Also I believe it is true to say that no law is above the US Constitution and Bill of Rights even if they pretend to be. Those those two documents are what the country was founded upon and anything that goes against them can be classed anti-American.

      I would more believe the Patriot Act to be one of several things the US Government has done while playing on the fears of the population concerning terrorism. Since the goal of terrorism is to bring fear to a population and to change the nature of that society then the existence of the Patriot Act only goes to highlight that the terrorists did win that battle.

    • Anonymous

      Considering DHS was behind the seizures and arrest, yeah, it’s definitely a Patriot Act overreach.

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  • Anonymous

    An excellent write-up. Bravo. Unfortunately, the U.S. government doesn’t know how to spell “Constitution”. Heck, it’s gotten so bad that the House of Representatives had a floor reading of the Constitution this year for the first time since the history of the House!!

  • victoria poop

    can someone reference this article and create a “Criticisms” section in her wikipedia page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Espinel

  • Dr_Faustus

    The criminal justice system is very favorable towards criminals and they have a lot more rights than we think they do. Why? Because of people like ICE who are doing exactly this..Now we dont know if these people who had their domains taken have committed any crimes any more than we know if Oswald was the gun shooter because they all did not have their day in court.

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  • Whatever

    Its strange that Americans have 2 and now 3 retarded choices for government.
    Democrat (whats in a word), republican and tea party (republican extreme). Is it so difficult to have more than 2 parties there ?.

    About the intelligence of the avarage American much can be said but outside America one also can be disappointed. Something to think about: most of the scientists in America were imported from another country (like Germany).

    There was always a 3rd choice before the “tea party” but he never gets any votes (can almost remember his name but not quite get it…. then again i’m not American and also don’t know what his agenda is or was exactly).

  • GreyGeek

    The ICE behavior is entirely explained if you consider that they are merely acting as agents for corporate copyright holders, much the way Apple employees went along with and directed the police as they raided Gizmo. It’s also obvious that ICE isn’t working on immigration or customs problems in behalf of the citizens of the US.

    • Guest

      At least Gizmodo was trying to ransom back stolen property to Apple. That shit just isn’t right. Then again, neither was the response.

      But with the domain seizures, the websites aren’t even doing anything wrong. ICE/DHS can’t even use the excuse of “Oh yeah? Well just look what they were doing, we’re totally justified in hijacking their domains!”. Although that isn’t stopping them from trying. So yeah, “law enforcement” has pretty much become a corporate police force. But it’s becoming more and more nakedly obvious, which kind of concerns me.

      In order to hide behind the facade of law enforcement there at least have to be SOME lines they won’t cross, otherwise the facade crumbles. But they don’t seem to care very much anymore about hiding behind it anymore, so the few lines they won’t cross are started to be erased.

      What’ll things be like a year or two down the road? DHS raids child’s birthday party on tip they were singing Happy Birthday without a liscense, “when you don’t pay the rightsholders you’re supporting terrorism” says U.S. Attorney? That seriously isn’t very different from the more insane copyright groups in the UK, except with DHS the thugs will be government sanctioned.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Bloodyscott/100000019345239 Michael Bloodyscott

        Good Morning to All song was written by Patty Hill and Mildred J. Hill in 1893 which Happy Birthday is based and “Happy Birthday to You” first appeared in print in 1912 but the Summy Company registered it for copyright in 1935 to become its legal owner which was later sold with the company, the song remains under US copyright now until 2030 due to the the Copyright Term Extension Act in 1998, while in the EU the copyright will expire in 2016. In one specific instance on February 2010, the royalties were said to amount to $700 for one public performance of the song.

  • Anonymous

    They are grouping piracy with counterfeiting? We don’t profit off sharing.

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  • Multicsfan

    If linking to copyrighted material is illegal then why haven’t they gone after google and yahoo, bing, among other search engines? They also link to copyrighted material. So does cnn, and even the government itself.

  • Rrrontorrringth

    Gosh! Just like that. No court, no juries, nothing. Just a will of some agent from mysterious authority, and any domain is seized. Is it in the country that fights for freedom and human rights all around the globe.
    Last year, in Russia we had a similar case, the most popular torrent-tracker’s domain (torrents.ru, >1.5 mln users) was seized just like that. I thought that it can’t be the US. I was wrong

  • Rrrontorrringth

    Gosh! Just like that. No court, no juries, nothing. Just a will of some agent from mysterious authority, and any domain is seized. Is it in the country that fights for freedom and human rights all around the globe.
    Last year, in Russia we had a similar case, the most popular torrent-tracker’s domain (torrents.ru, >1.5 mln users) was seized just like that. I thought that it can’t be the US. I was wrong

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  • Jd100

    Just more proof on the pile of BS of a corrupt Government. I’m sure Biden is behind all of this.

  • http://www.rxrights.org RxRights Advocate

    The fact that our government might be able to seize domain names without notice and a hearing frightens me. As a national Coalition, RxRights is http://www.rxrights.org closely following the Combating Online Infringements and Counterfeits Act (COICA). This legislation could have serious implications for over a million Americans who rely on safe and legitimate online pharmacies and drug reimportation to access their needed medications at an affordable price. In fact, your readers might be interested in our recent blog posts on this issue: http://www.rxrights.org/your-thoughts/2011/03/04/coica-hearing-update.

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  • Bcarlson22

    Homeland security was created because ARABS attacked the WTC! What on earth does it or immigration have to do with internet videos or charging each Canadian who flies into the USA $7.50 everytime they visit?

  • Bcarlson22

    There’s Obama the socialist left-wing fascist Nobel winning warmonger now on his 4th war- CHANGE for you!

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