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After Police Raid, Mulve File-Sharing App Operator Cleared Of Wrong Doing

After being in quiet development for some months, in September the Mulve music downloading app hit the mainstream. Very quickly everything went sour, with British police swooping on the guy who registered the Mulve domain and placing him under arrest on a range of charges from copyright infringement through to conspiracy to defraud. Today we can report the outcome. For once it’s good news.

mulveIn September, the Mulve music downloading app burst onto the scene. It carried no music of its own, but instead allowed users to download material from servers owned by Russia’s biggest social networking site, Vkontakte.

After being very well received and its existence reported in dozens of news outlets, in early October things took a turn for the worse. TorrentFreak learned that police in the UK had arrested an individual in connection with the application and we were told in no uncertain terms – Mulve was finished.

For the first time, we can now reveal exactly what happened.

“On the 6th of October, at approximately 8am a group of unidentified men entered my apartment and only later identified themselves as police officers. They then went ahead to confiscate all my electronic equipment. Laptops, flash drives, cell phones etc.”

These are the words of Eric, the guy who registered the Mulve domain and the person we referred to in our earlier articles under the pseudonym ‘John’. Eric had nothing whatsoever to do with the coding of Mulve, another individual was responsible.

“I am the sole author of the program. Eric has never even seen the source code, neither does he know how to program,” Mulve coder ms3arch told TorrentFreak earlier. “The reason they went for Eric was because the domain was in his name for 1 day.”

Eric confirmed this morning that the authorities had indeed tracked him through a non-private WHOIS listing. He’d also innocently revealed his identity in videos and elsewhere.

After being taken away for questioning, the grounds for Eric’s arrest were explained:

- Copyright Infringement
- Conspiracy to Defraud (the same charges which failed so massively against OiNK)
- Distributing an article which would cause loss of money to third parties

Eric informed us that what followed was 6 weeks of police bail. Fortunately, as no incriminating evidence was found to support the accusations levelled against him (surprise, surprise), Eric has now been told he is free to go. He will have to wait for the return of all his equipment though, that won’t return until next week.

One has to wonder if these actions in the UK should be allowed to continue. The police are clearly being influenced and pressured by the music industry to take action, and they are taking the bait – hook, line and sinker. If the industry is so convinced they can get a conviction, perhaps they should try to do so through the civil courts where the burden of proof is much lower?

As it stands the British tax-payer is picking up the bill for these pointless efforts which achieve nothing other than to turn the lives of people like Eric upside down and raise awareness of services such as those offered by Vkontakte.

“Here’s a public thanks to all the readers and individuals who made this ordeal easier for us,” says Eric as he puts this ordeal behind him.

What will follow from Eric now is a new and completely legal music project. Eric is very, very keen to stay absolutely on the right side of the law this time. Of course, we’ll keep everyone informed.

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  • hotdog

    awesome:)

  • Anonymous

    ‘completely legal music project’

    like we haven’t heard that before lmao

  • hotdog

    I would also like to say the industry is soon coming to a halt treating people like criminals!!When yet we are your best customers good luck with that corp.”rats”!! So I hope mulve has a lawyer lined up I believe taking someone’s personal information then arresting them is illegal not sure how other countries work, but it’s an issue to take up on.

  • Anonymous

    @hotdog if its part of a criminal investigation its not illegal!

    i dont see what the police were to do really, they were told of a crime, they acted on it but got the wrong guy. what police force in the world hasn’t arrested the wrong person at one time or another.

    however, there are bigger fish to fry, but i guess its easier to go after the small ones as people will kick up less of a fuss

  • yum

    mistakes and blackmailing nice customer service, yes?

  • IMTDb

    @4

    Yes but in this case they where told of a crime (well, piracy is not in itself a “crime”, its an infraction at most) and arrested a man and tore his life apart…without any real reason to do so. Registering a domain name has never been a crime.

    What we see here is a proof that the music industry makes pressure on the police forces to act. And in no country should private companies be able to make pressure on the law enforcement forces.

    Of course all police forces have arrested the wrong guy. Everyone make mistakes. But in this case the mistake is commanded by a private company. And I don’t think they feel this was a mistake : they use the police as their own private army and their purpose was just to send a warning to everyone thinking about playing with them.

    In no circumstances should this be possible to happen again.

    — Admin of: http://imtdb.kicks-ass.org

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  • Truther

    Mulve was already a “completely legal music project” Yet another search engine.

  • x

    we will shut all the torrent sites down and put all you guy in jail just wait

  • old hippie

    There are no free men in Britian. Maybe it’s time for another Magna Carta, but I’m afraid they don’t want to be free either.

  • 6sixty6

    WTF. somebody got bought off and threw away the evidence.

  • hotdog

    @8 Lmao good luck with that dude I doubt there is enough room to put 1 billion people in!!! It’ll never happen.
    Yeah on top of that those potential customers will no longer use your products watch your movies or associate anything with your company!!Keep telling that to people stupidity is bliss.
    I SERIOUSLY WONDER THE SO CALLED BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THESE CORPORATIONS ARE SERIOUSLY NOT TO INTELLIGENT WHEN IT COMES TO FREE ADVERTISEMENTS.

    And to imtdb thanks for helping me out ;)

  • Andrew

    Time he filed a complaint with IPCC, or a lawsuit. The police are entirely at fault for such severe action for a non-crime. It highlights some serious issues – even the slightest amount of investigation by somebody with a half a clue would have ruled this out as a successful or even remotely valid case. It was obviously a rushed, botched job after somebody (read: industry) noticed the publicity it was getting and asked them to act. What is most concerning is that they then acted on the industry’s incorrect word without checking the facts – police corruption is apparently on the up over here.

  • Anonymous

    @4 if i tell the police you are a pedo should they bash your door down and arrest you and take all of your electronic equipment without and investigation or evidence?

    Use your brains clearly something was wrong here. What the police did was way over the top and very premature.

  • Anonymous

    @4 if i tell the police you are a pedo should they bash your door down and arrest you and take all of your electronic equipment without any investigation or evidence?

    Use your brains clearly something was wrong here. What the police did was way over the top and very premature.

  • sick of my country as well

    #4 is a pedo?? arrest him and steal all his properties with no evidence…

  • Twoot

    Eric should sue for wrongful arrest and harassment now that he’s been shown to be innocent.

  • Mike

    The cops are only doing their job. How easily you people blame the cops its pathetic.

    You people think nothing of illegaly pirating and yet have the audacity to point fingers at those who uphold the law.

  • FinnFart

    @17
    Using similar arguments, a nurse that saves patients and then euthanizes old, sick people is just doing his/her job, and we should not point fingers.

  • hotdog

    @17
    Gotta love that”you people”lmao!!
    We are your neighbours, friends, cousins, brothers, sisters, doctors, lawyers, gymnast, fans inspired by your artists!! Your culture is our culture but you classify us as “you people” we don’t care about stealing from you!!
    You steal from us all the time and point the fingers at us!!
    Your inhumane acts towards people that pay you ten times to buy your stuff who are you to justify others?

  • Anonymous

    c’mon now..we all know that there’s no such thing as a legal music project on the interwebz.
    Not unless you’ve got a battalion of lawyers/lobbyists on tap.

  • Eric

    Hey guys, Eric here.

    I want to clarify that if we do decide to undertake a new project, it will be run by the law 100% and will not involve copyright infringement etc. I’m making sure to do everything I can to avoid such allegations again.

    Eric

  • jamie

    whats this? “Distributing an article which would cause loss of money to third parties” that phrase seriously concerns me as it seems to cover a broad spectrum

  • Phoenix

    SUE THEM back

  • DeeCee

    Eric should not put this matter behind him just yet, he should make a complaint against the police via the IPCA and do so using a solicitor experienced in making complaints against the police, I’m by no means an expert though I do have a little experience. Regardless of whether or not the complaint succeeds it would have to be investigated which would take up police time and police money and if enough people complain enough times the police will start wondering if they are the right people to be investigating copyright issues.

  • Anonymous

    @Moron Mike

    The cops who beat civil rights demonstrators to a pulp some 60 or so years back were just doing their job. How easily you people blame the cops is pathetic.

    Hint: the phrase “I was just doing my job!” is how cowards avoid taking responsibility for their own actions.

    But I wonder how the cops were even doing their job at all. They made no invistigaion and arrested the wrong guy, based on invalid evidence, simply because a private corporation told them to. And they replied “OKIE DOKIE!”.

  • The Terminator

    Congrats dude. You win +10 internets.

    And good luck with your future “legal” projects :P

  • Anonymous

    These police actions were no “mistake” – these false arrests and malicious prosecutions did exactly what they were intended to do:

    Oink was destroyed

    Mulve was destroyed

    This once again proves that, when perpetrated by the record industry, lying to police and filing false charges works. Time after time.

  • Whatever

    @sueing the police.
    Its a start but useless, the laughing third would be the MAFIAA. “Eric” and the (UK) tax payer are paying the bill for the MAFIAA “error” while crimes aren’t solved in the meantime.

    If the police was pressured then a crime has already been committed: Abuse of the police force and false accusations.

    What should happen is that the police drop in on all of the MAFIAA members homes and collect evidence on the false accusations (and get wikileaked).

    As the police won’t do it on their own, maybe the need some (anonymous) accusations against MAFIAA employees. There are a lot of crimes to choose from like rape (works in Sweden), child abuse, traffic violations….

  • whose ripping who off?

    “I was just doing my job”
    “I was just following orders”

    The latter was proven to be inexcusable and not an acceptable defense in the Nuremberg Trials post WWII (Nazi War Crimes for those less edumacated) so I doubt the former will hold much credibility either.

  • Ben UK

    Thanks Cameron, way to spend my taxes

  • lverona

    When someone wants to offer an absolutely legal music project, I wonder if it is going to be any interesting. Most legal projects are boring and don’t work unless you have a credit card or a PayPal account. So looks like it is the last time we heard from Eric’s music project.

  • Duke

    “Eric is very, very keen to stay absolutely on the right side of the law this time.”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but surely the fact that he was cleared of wrong doing implies that he was on the right side of the law all along – merely that the police did not initially recognise this?

  • Ikip

    I’m lost, at what point was Eric not on the right side of the law?

  • lulz

    Eric is probably a kid to be cowed so easily.

  • man

    @lulz

    It’s wise, he probably knows the police will be paying extra close attention now. Especially if he wants to start something new up.

  • rob8urcakes

    @21 Eric, who said -
    “Hey guys, Eric here.

    I want to clarify that if we do decide to undertake a new project, it will be run by the law 100% and will not involve copyright infringement etc. I’m making sure to do everything I can to avoid such allegations again.

    Eric”

    It’ll “be run by the law 100%” Eric?

    I trust the Police will do it this time – so they can go arrest themselves the next time the fraudulent, lying bastards in the music industry who took the piss outta them in the 1st place can see their own road to jail for conspiracy and to pervert the course of justice?

    I take it these F.A.C.T. asswipes were involved again, just as they are in the ongoing Filesoup case (where the site owner also got all his tech property confiscated for months on end) – the TF article didn’t say whether FACT was behind this.

    Whoever is pulling the strings, there’s something VERY wrong here and we need a lot of public pressure on the politicians and on OfCom to get this sorted. I reckon it’ll take years, and there’s likely going to be some rather disturbing Court verdicts on the way until we get to the heart of true justice and indeed Truth itself.

    All the best to you and your new project Eric. Stay strong guys, we WILL win out in the end.

  • brad

    @DeeCee the IPCA? you mean these guys? http://www.ipcalabs.com/ an Indian pharmaceutical company? i think you mean the IPCC, the independent police complaint commission

    ” I’m by no means an expert though I do have a little experience” you got that right, because you are complaining to the wrong people!

    the police were acting on a complaint, what were the meant to do, there was obviously SOME (all be it not detailed enough) investigatory work done before hand, they were given a warrant so a judge thought there was enough evidence too.

  • Me

    So how exactly does ‘Distributing an article which would cause loss of money to third parties’ work?

    Surely that is what microsofts xbox is doing to sony’s ps3? Are they breaking the law? I mean if microsoft stopped selling xboxes then ps3 sales would surely increase.

  • Anonymous

    as public sentiment goes he’ll probably be remembered as the guy who got arrested for owning a domain for copyright infringement not the guy who owns that domain and got acquitted of those charges

  • Justice

    Great, the action to shut down the service was successful then, even though there was nothing illegal about it. The owner has been successfully intimidated by the police of behalf of media companies into never venturing into that area again.

    So, Eric, don’t you dare threaten the financial interests of these companies ever again, if you value a peaceful life.

  • brad

    @38 are you seriously being retarded or asking a serious question?

  • Drag0nflamez

    What would it be? I guess it’s some music store with drm-free stuff or something that pays like a penny or so to the artists or something…

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  • Sanity_Vocal

    Is Eric going to sue the UK police?

    Now that it’s been established that he was innocent of all the supposed charges, it would seem this was a case of Sloppy detective work by the UK Police. As a matter of fact, can this even be called Detective work at all? It’s kind of reminds me of old german Gestapo work if you ask me.

  • Anonymous

    Good idea especially if it helps fund a new equipment and a new application. If the police took all of my gear I’d be very untrustworthy of it after that.

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  • Ninja

    Legal won’t work. Legal music and whatever is unbelievably expensive and at times hard to find. I’m waiting for a cheap and good online service but with greed flowing like water over a broken dam it’s hardly a foreseeable future.

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