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Artists Sue CBS, CNET, for Promoting and Profiting from Piracy

A coalition of artists has joined eccentric billionaire and FilmOn founder Alki David in a new class action lawsuit against CNET and CBS Interactive. The complaint filed at a federal court in Los Angeles claims that through websites like Download.com, these companies have willingly profited from popularizing online copyright infringements. The artists want the CBS chiefs to be held accountable for “soliciting such widespread theft.”

cnetEarlier this year Alki David and a handful of artists sued CBS Interactive and CNET for their role in distributing LimeWire and other P2P and DRM-cracking software.

In July the lawsuit was pulled, but David promised to come back later in the year with an even bigger case. That day has now arrived.

Together with the “Justice for Artists Coalition” which includes Dough E Fresh, H-Town, Slick Rick and Ron Brows, David has filed a new lawsuit at a federal court in Los Angeles. In common with their previous case, the coalition claims that CBS and CNET profited heavily from distributing and popularizing file-sharing software such as LimeWire.

“CBS Interactive has quietly made billions by inducing the public to break the law, by providing them the file-sharing software and step-by-step guides, on exactly how to do it. No one has held Defendant accountable for this. Until now,” the complaint reads.

The artists point out that Download.com was one of the main distributors of LimeWire, and that CBS-owned sites promoted and profited from encouraging people to infringe copyrights.

“Defendants have been the main distributer of several of the most prominent P2P software platforms. Defendants promoted these P2P systems in order to directly profit from wide-scale copyright infringement. For example, Internet users downloaded more then [sic] 220 million copies from Defendants’ website, Download.com,” it adds.

Speaking with TorrentFreak, Alki David explains that the coalition wants to hold the bosses at CBS accountable for their alleged criminal behavior.

“The objective is to get CBS principals up on criminal charges for soliciting such widespread theft. These people have not joined the lawsuit because it’s a popularity contest and not because they are driven by greed or ignorance. Because their lives have been hammered by widespread piracy,” David told us.

“The CBS agenda is to control the Internet as an outlet for content distribution by any means possible. The future for creative and independent innovation is bleak if this is allowed to continue. The art in media enriches us all being exposed to the choices of a few affect all our lives,” he added.

The group of artists currently involved in the class action lawsuit is expected to expand in the coming weeks and months. According to Alki David there’s no shortage of interest.

“We have only scratched the surface. Many more rights-holders are coming forward representing tens of thousands of more intellectual properties but the verification process for identifying ownership is long and detailed, so we will keep on adding as we go,” David commented.

The allegations in the complaint lead the plaintiffs to conclude that CBS and CNET are guilty of inducing copyright infringement, contributory copyright infringement and vicarious copyright infringement. In addition to receiving compensation they want the defendants to stop promoting P2P software altogether.

Do they have a chance? Time will tell.


A video message from David

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  • Anonymous

    Sock puppets.

  • Tonymusic

    Good luck with that one slick rick

  • Anonymous

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    • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

      Reported to nirl.eu. They don’t like spammers either, according to their Terms of Service; let’s see, shall we?.

      • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

        yep , let’s nuke that guys links :

        email: abuse@nirl.eu

        link (no space): nirl. eu/7

        • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

          Link has been deactivated. Good show, nirl.eu!

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    im sorry but i was rooting for david becuase of CBS gainign in the apparant billions , but stopped the video as soon as the normal utter trash crap about the industry being shattered ( 0:58) shattered, how can the entertainment industry be shattered when movies are still comign within the billion mark… and considering only 10 have ever broken that mark ever since films came out, thats not bloody bad. so sorry david but you lost me on this one

    • Danny

      I only recognised Sugerhill music from his list. I didn’t even think the SugerHill gang still made music? Maybe its someone else?

      He is not a musician but it seems all the people involved in the class action suit are? Confusing.

      • bobj

        Actually it seems that most of the people attached to this law suit are no longer active in music, haven’t written anything new in years, dead, or are otherwise considered has-beens.

        I also find it funny that he’s bitching that CBS found a way to make money off somethng by giving it away.

      • Joe

        He’s PAYING for the Lawsuit on Behalf of 1000′s of Artists! He’s put up many Millions of Dollars already! He’s not trying to profit at all. He wants to expose that the big Media Companies Conspired to Distribute the Software AND promote its use to infringe copyrights to create Paranoia among lawmakers to pass control of the internet over to them!

        • http://re1ease.net RE1_Vod

          Hello Alki David (joe), if he put millions of dollars in this already. He got ripped off, as nothing has happened yet.

        • Floppy Copy

          Tunnel vision and short sightedness. This seems to be the trait of a lot of folks here. Who cares about the money to be gained or lost on this case when what you’re really after is something far more precious? Yes, a precedent! It seems clear to me now that the media conglomerates have been planning and plotting since the very beginning. They learned well from the VCR, MP3 Player, and Napster, and now here we are over a decade later, witnessing the final stages of their master plan as it all comes to fruition. That is what happens when you can afford the best chess players in existence, people who can plan many moves ahead. The only question left is whether or not anyone on the consumers side can stop the freight train barreling towards them at full speed. Will there be an 11th hour save, or will the internet finally fall into the hands of those who so desperately want complete and utter control over it? It will certainly be interesting to see what happens next.

    • Joe

      Alki David is representing the small copyright holders. He is exposing that this was a Plot the entire time that big Media Controlled the Distribution of the File Sharing Software like LimeWire, Kazaa, Napster and them SUED people who actually used it as C/Net Editors Instructed!

      The co-distributed the Software with Instructions ENCOURAGING INFRINGEMENT! http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/2011/06/cnet-virtual-online-p2p-software.html And they did it with AOL Time?warner and Microsoft. The RIAA and MPAA are made up of billions of dollar conglomerates that distributed the software.

      • http://re1ease.net RE1_Vod

        Hello Alki David (joe), so on your video you say artists lost loads. So it was “big media” idea to distribute software that will inflict them financial damage so they could sue a select few (therefore not regain that financial loss)

        Makes no sense Alki.

        • Joe

          Alki David is using his real name, look down the list! He doesn’t post fakes! I’ve been following this for 6 months!

    • Jden

      no its just you

    • Kitten

      That’s right , choose the side of CBS, lead MPAA member through the Paramount Pictures division. Why are so many siding with the MPAA here? probably paid fakes. So he is supporting little artists that you never heard of. Should he be suing on behalf of Bono or Madonna or Britney Spears. He’s getting justice against the Big Media companies for small independent artists.

      Okay, you keep supporting the big media companies and the Famous Musicians and Screw the Little Bands!

      • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

        who said i had to support or even agree 100% to one side, i stated straight away that i supported david to start with becuase CBS was gaining in the apparant billions via advertising the use of free software, which i dont agree they should be, just like profitering from films /tv etc and then gaing ad revienue , membership fees or anything when the content should be freely avaliable on the net. i dont how ever agree with davidas i have clearly stated, by having the utter nerve to complain and actually use the wall street area for his own uses, the industries are not shattered, in fact they have been better than ever before. so get your head from inside your ass, and stop acting like one and dont assume im taking sides just becuase you see only 2 options and a person must chose a side.

  • Danny

    Isn’t Luke Skywalker from Starwars?

  • TerribleTony

    I’m extremely surprised that Slick Rick is involved with this farce, he should be ashamed of himself. His cool has hereby been revoked.

    • Kitten

      When is fighting back against the MPAA and RIAA wrong. Who else is doing it? Who else has tried? Who has the money? Okay, you keep supporting CBS/Viacom they pay more to the lobbyists to take control of the internet than any other organization!

  • Momo

    “H-Town, Slick Rick and Ron Brows”

    Who, who and who? I bet Alki is paying those idiots to sue CBS so he can sit back and watch them make trouble… basically, it’s a cock-fight with humans in it — 1% style.

    Imo, this story stinks of marketing stunt, but I’m sure it’s also part revenge. CBS sued his company, so now he’s trying to make noise by suing them for… Limewire downloads, which have absolutely nothing to do with him.

    Best case, this stupid lawsuit just goes away. Worst case, his bullshit sets a precedent where anyone who ever distributed filesharing software (or even talked about filesharing software) is responsible for the large-scale piracy done by the users of that software.

    Fuck this shit.

    • ZiggySig

      Worst thing is – if internet blacklisting laws passes, they won’t even need a court. They could just block sites like cnet.com without any proper reason, rendering numerous businesses destroyed, and people left jobless.

      I don’t really grapple, what kind of mental illness are they facing? Just blows my mind…

      • Joe

        Alki David is trying to Stop Laws to ruin and control the internet! He’s exposing what really happened to stop the lawmakers from passing the internet to the big media companies!

    • Kitten

      CBS through the MPAA sues Kids and Single Moms and you approve. A bilionaire puts up millions so that little artists can sue CBS and you hate on him. You keep supporting the lead MPAA member then. When the laws pass giving the internet to the big media companies then you’ll be thrilled. This guy want’s to drag all the internal MPAA and RIAA documents out into court as evidence.

      Are you doing something better to stop all this copyright madness?

  • Anon

    Another billionaire using the Occupy Wall Street to line their pockets.

    • Zzzz

      Nothing changes, it was a billionaire who started the Tea Party.
      These fucks will always find a way to use people.

    • Joe

      Alki David is going to LOSE Millions. He’s starting this lawsuit to expose the Big Media Plot to Control the Internet. Alki David is trying to STOP that proposed SOPA and Protect IP Act legislation.

      • http://re1ease.net RE1_Vod

        Hello Alki David (joe), if you put millions of dollars in this already. You got ripped off, as nothing has happened yet.

        • Kitten

          You keep supporting CBS, Why? CBS is the Lead MPAA member! troll.

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  • Guest

    DRM cracking aside. P2P software isn’t illegal and can be used without violating copyright.
    Why don’t the banks sue the auto/petrol industry for their part in promoting bank robberies, since cars are often used to rob banks.

    • https://launchpad.net/~bluebomber BlueBomber

      Well, for one reason, established by the US MGM vs. Grokster case: Auto/petrol industries do not actively promote illegal uses of their products. The Supreme Court ruled that the software distributors were actively encouraging copyright infringement with their software in MGM vs. Grokster.

      This and the recent news that a European judge recently ruled that the mere work “torrent” implies copyright infringement frighten me. Welcome to a brave new world of censorship.

    • Lynx

      Agreed, but if their supplied tutorials on how to use the software has blatant screen shots of copyrighted material, I agree they should be sued. There is no reason you can’t explain how to use P2P software and use Ubuntu, Fedora Core, Pioneer One, Zenith, etc as examples.

    • MonsterTruck

      That’s Correct, File Sharing software IS LEGAL but distributing the software and promoting its use to Specially infringe copyrights IS NOT!

      This is the Supreme Court Ruling!
      MGM vs Grokster Copyright Ruling: “We hold that one who “DISTRIBUTES” a “DEVICE” with the object of “PROMOTING” its use to infringe copyright, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement, is “LIABLE” for the resulting acts of infringement by third parties.” . . . . . . . Regardless of the device’s non-infringing uses.

      Then CBS C/Net distributes it with article on exacly HOW to pirate with it using real artists and song titles http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/2011/05/songs-and-bands-openly-used-as-test.html

      Then as an RIAA and MPAA member sues the kids who Actually Use it as instructed! AND goes crying to paid off lawmakers that we need laws to control the internet because piracy is rampant!

      It’s been a plot all along.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        So distributing Bittorrent software is illegal by your “plot” as well. What a loon…

        • Kitten

          It’s illegal to PROMOTE the use of any software specically for Copyright Infringing Purposes. That is what CBS did. I see that “Jay” is another proud supporter of CBS, the lead member of the MPAA through it’s paramount pictures division. Send them a Valentine’s day card why don’t you too. You don’t think it’s ODD that the lead member of the MPAA distributed the software and instructed kids to use it to infringe copyrights, THEN sued the same kids for millions is odd? Isn’t it even ,ore odd that commenters here are so supportive of the MPAA! Trooooolz!

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Kitten, they only did that in your opinion. From having used those tutorials, they said NUMEROUS GODDAMNED TIMES that using those softwares to download copyrighted works was ‘illegal’ by civil law.

          The fact is that people have an argument that since they are ALREADY paying for the things that they are download ‘illegally’ in numerous ways, that their downloading is not illegal.

          I.E. since Comcast Cable has CD quality music, the labels have already gotten their cash, which means that people should have the right to download that music to use on ANY of their devices.

          These bastards want to be paid MORE THAN ONCE for a piece of copyrighted… whatever you wish to name.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        And where did CNet ever say that it was okay to do that? The fact is that CNet has said specifically numerous times in their tutorial videos that using filesharing software to download copyrighted stuff is ‘illegal’. Actually, it’s not illegal, it’s a violation of civil law.

        CNet has not gained jack shit from their tutorials on this, to be blunt, and I foresee this case being laughed out of court and charges pressed against the man who filed this case.

        • digibyte

          They also forbid any pro-piracy comments on their website.

  • Anonymous

    lol, is anyone actually surprised by that? I mean like seriously.
    totally-anon.at.tc

  • Anonymous

    nirl.eu/7

    • Jmorse43508

      Nirl.eu needs to nuke this spam as well.

      I wish the spammer would get nuked. That would solve the problem once and for all.

  • Pure_Insanity_Inventions

    Fake…. Setup…

  • Zig

    Haha, Alki David claims that download.com was the ONLY place to download Limewire. So what about Limewire.com then? Idiot

    • Alki

      actually Limewire linked back to download.com with a message “Welcome Limewire Users” that accounted for 5% of the distribution. The rest was only Download/CNET

      • foff

        Of course you are some one has to get it started but the question remains. If you get a settlement does the lion’s share go to you and the lawyers and after that what basis would you use to distribute the rest. That being impossible will it simply go back to you or a charity in your name of course,

        • Mark

          This Lawsuit is to Prove that the Piracy movement was started by the Big Media companies for Internet Control. They distributed the Software AND Promoted it’s use to commit piracy then went screaming to paid off lawmakers for tough laws to let the media companies control the internet

        • Joe

          Alki David is just putting up the Millions to Sue the Big Media Conglomerates. It’s thousands of little artists involved. He will LOSE MILLIONS no matter what and he is doing it on behalf of the poor musicians and writers that were shafted by the big media companies,
          Alki David is trying to Expose and Bring Down BIG MEDIA you all should be cheering him on

    • Joe

      Limewire had a “Download.com” button on it’s site the whole time. The Software was ONLY hosted on C/Nets Servers http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/2011/05/file-sharing-reference-of-cnet.html
      Go look on the Internet Wayback Machine! LimeWires Doenload button ONLY linked back to the Download page on C/Net

      • Erthwjim

        Actually I think I’ve seen it on filehippo, tucows, and a few other sites in the days when I used it…. Also the reason to host off site, because then limewire doesn’t have to worry about paying bandwidth costs…

  • Username1

    Isn’t CBS one of those corporate entities that send out cease and desist letters to file sharers ?

    What an ironic turn of events.

    • Grumpygit

      Well it’s about time THEIR propaganda comes back to bite them on the a$$.

      It’s just a shame so many people here, seem enraged by this.

      • Nerdgirl

        I don’t want to see anyone sued because of platforms that can be used for legitimate services as well as piracy (and I don’t have too much of a problem with piracy either – it fills a void the media companies haven’t as yet). These platforms are distribution channels, nothing more, nothing less. The media that is distributed is in question. Chase those releasing the illegal content, fair enough. But not the platform.

    • SJ

      Yes, CBS Sued all those Crying Kids and Single Moms as part of the RIAA and the MPAA. Look at this evidence blog. Remember CBS will Prevail!

  • Dwezal

    This is just the stepping stone.
    1) They will sue the search engines next for leading people to the site.
    2) They will sue the website providers for allowing them to set up a website.
    3) They will sue Apple and Google for approving torrent apps for phone and selling them via the store. Evil companies making money off the backs of everyone.
    4) They will sue the OS makers, Apple, Linux and the most evil of them all Microsoft for ever coming up with an OS that would support these programs. They will claim that all three could place updates that stop these torrents from working but they allowed them to run wild on the internet.
    They are suing the over the minority and not the majority, that is the issue.

    • Joe

      CBS will stop at Nothing to Control the Internet It’s CBS/Viacom?Warner they were all involved. The head of Viacom got a 50 million dollar bonus last year!

  • Anon

    “Profited from popularizing online copyright infringements”.

    Now they didn’t just offer the program along with thousands of other programs because people wanted them. No now they made them cool.

    Inb4 suing James Dean for making smoking cool…

  • Haithere

    Ok ok, many people have downloaded copyrighted works on LimeWire. But, why the hell don’t they just sit and think. Do they have some kind of magic crystal ball, that says, that if there weren’t LimeWire or any other P2P software, so people would go straight to the shop, and buy the album. Every download is not a LOST SALE! Ok, let’s just say that 10% (just a random number, no idea how many would) of the people would buy the album. Is that 10% really worth the fight? Ok, so 10% would buy the album, but the other 90% who are downloading it for free, might go to the concert (yes, they might, or they might not, but as I said, noone has that magic crystal ball, to say with full consciousness, that they might or might not), and that’s where the money really comes from.

    Though yes, ideologically I can even understand their behaviours, they want money, they want people to buy their tracks. But the world isn’t that black and white, as they seem to think.

    P.S.! Sorry for my bad English, but you should get the idea. I’ll continue practicing my English :)

  • foff

    What I hate about these type of law suits is that they claim to represent artists but in the end they will say sorry artist we need all the money to pay the lawyers and our costs. Sorry you artists as usual you don’t get jack shit. Go away thanks for being our lap dog suckers!!! Ha Ha Now we can live another day to fight more copyright and make mountains of money defending your rights while giving you nothing. Ha ha ha ha retards!

    • Alki

      actually im paying for everything

      • foff

        Of course you are some one has to get it started but the question remains. If you get a settlement does the lion’s share go to you and the lawyers and after that what basis would you use to distribute the rest. That being impossible will it simply go back to you or a charity in your name of course,

        • mark

          Alki David isn’t doing this for the money. He’s doing it to expose the corruption of how the Piracy was Created by the Big Companies themselves to gain Total Internet control. He is filing for discovery to prove that it was a Big Media Plot ALL ALONG! He’s not making money! It’s costing him Millions! He’s doing it for internet freedom for gods sake.

    • Alki

      actually im paying for everything

  • Anonymous

    I bet the RIAA is behind all of this. Can anyone check the list of artists for dead people, random names, pets in the graveyard, and people who don’t agree with this?

  • Dwpbike

    download dot com needed to be put down when it turned into a pos. people still go there?

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  • Erthwjim

    Although I do believe it’s important that artists make back the money they put into their albums, blaming a loss of money on P2P filesharing is not the way to go about doing it. Perhaps asking for larger royalties, working out a better contract, etc would be the better way to do this. Also what P2P did for big name artists, it gave smaller name artists a chance to have a larger market share, which would seem like a loss of money to big name artists… You know how to fix this? Make better music so you can attract your fans back, don’t sue them or blame them so they go away.

  • Erthwjim

    Although I do believe it’s important that artists make back the money they put into their albums, blaming a loss of money on P2P filesharing is not the way to go about doing it. Perhaps asking for larger royalties, working out a better contract, etc would be the better way to do this. Also what P2P did for big name artists, it gave smaller name artists a chance to have a larger market share, which would seem like a loss of money to big name artists… You know how to fix this? Make better music so you can attract your fans back, don’t sue them or blame them so they go away.

  • SJ

    This has been a Plot the entire time, to distribute the software and encourage people and kids to use it.The use the explosion in Piracy to get the Lawmakers to pass draconian laws to completely control the internet.

    This has been planned for years! CBS and C/net Made Billions ( I’m an insider ) distributing the software with the Pay Per Download System! All the software was held and distributed from C/net’s in house computers. There were C/net Download.com Button embedded on ALL the sites like LimeWire, Kazaa, Morpheus etc that just re-directed back to C/net. It was there to build up the C/net rankings.

    But trust me! the C/net CBS Viacom people are a 22 Billion Dollar conglomerate. We counted on brainwashing kids for years with articles slamming Metallica. In the end we knew if this day came, you would all defend US!
    .
    SUCKERS!

  • SJ

    This has been a Plot the entire time, to distribute the software and encourage people and kids to use it.The use the explosion in Piracy to get the Lawmakers to pass draconian laws to completely control the internet.

    This has been planned for years! CBS and C/net Made Billions ( I’m an insider ) distributing the software with the Pay Per Download System! All the software was held and distributed from C/net’s in house computers. There were C/net Download.com Button embedded on ALL the sites like LimeWire, Kazaa, Morpheus etc that just re-directed back to C/net. It was there to build up the C/net rankings.

    But trust me! the C/net CBS Viacom people are a 22 Billion Dollar conglomerate. We counted on brainwashing kids for years with articles slamming Metallica. In the end we knew if this day came, you would all defend US!
    .
    SUCKERS!

    • Erthwjim

      So what about all the other software they host? Because I swear limewire wasn’t the only thing being downloaded off of CNET. Perhaps that supposed billion dollars they were making came from the millions of other available downloads they made available (perfectly legal too). CNET, like most companies on the net, advertises on people’s sites. They make money and so does the site. They didn’t only advertise on limewire, the advertise on pretty much every site that hosts their downloads on CNET. I believe they have that download button AVG too… Evil CNET..

  • Stan

    Google, Yahoo join opposition to rogue website legislation
    Contend that proposed SOPA and Protect IP Act legislation would create uncertain new liabilities

    hear anything about that?

  • SJ

    REMEMBER!
    ALL File Sharing software is LEGAL, But Promoting it’s Use FOR PIRACY AND DISTRIBUTING the Software is Illegal! As per this Supreme Court Ruling!

    MGM vs Grokster Copyright Ruling: “We hold that one who “DISTRIBUTES” a “DEVICE” with the object of “PROMOTING” its use to infringe copyright, as shown by clear expression or other affirmative steps taken to foster infringement, is “LIABLE” for the resulting acts of infringement by third parties.” . . . . . . . Regardless of the device’s non-infringing uses.

    That’s pretty clear. We all knew it! But who has the Money to Sue CBS? Not these pissant artists! Stay on CBS and C/net kids! With a 20 Billion Dollar Piggybank CBS WILL WIN and own the internet too! Everyone is paid off all the way up and down the line.

    That CBS?Viacom?Warner were ALL Involved Heavily. Look at ALL this Evidence.
    http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/2011/05/file-sharing-tests-using-real.html

    • Erthwjim

      So when did taking screenshots of the names of copyrighted music become illegal?

      • Kitten

        When a Big 20 Billion Dollar Media Conglomerate, CBS / Viacom, tells kids to download those songs to save money! THEN Sues them for Millions for doing it! I guess you are another MPAA /RIAA troll. Who else would support someone fighting BACK against the RIAA and MPAA Members themselves? Think about it!

        • Erthwjim

          I support people fighting back for legitimate reasons, the Jaime Thomas-Rassets of the world. If Mr Alki wants to do something productive and useful, he’d be helping her and her lawyer out. Or he’d be fighting against the legislation of SOPA through lobbying against it and helping out the electronic frontier foundation and other entities to spread the word about it and why it should not be passed.

      • Grumpygit

        Nobody said taking screenshots of the names of copyrighted music was illegal, what drugs are you currently enjoying?

        “It is patently obvious that the rampant illegal conduct that Lime Wire intentionally induced, and for which it has been adjudged liable, will continue uninterrupted day after day unless and until the Court issues an injunction to rein in this massive infringing operation,” RIAA’s lawyers wrote to the Court.

        http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-wants-court-to-shut-down-limewire-100605/

        limewire was sued because they “intentionally induced” copyright infringement but your against CBSCNET being sued for doing the same?

        So your ok with CBS happily making money from limewire downloads then suing limewire for doing the same thing they themselves were doing – promoting copyright infringment?????

        If so, you must be a special kind of dumb or a troll. (not sure which, maybe both)

        what goes around, comes around and hopefully kicks them square in the nuts. xD

        • Erthwjim

          And you expect me to somehow take the word of RIAA lawyers at face value? No thanks.

          I’m not against people suing viacom or CBS, I’m against the grounds under which David Alki is suing them, because he somehow is trying to make it seem like he’s against internet censorship, yet he sued limewire and on his poorly made site points out quite a few other programs that can be used to infringe on copyrights, which to me is censoring. Because the next thing he’ll do is sue google because back in the past when you searched for limewire the first site that popped up after their main site was the download.com one (I’m just speculating on this)

          What he should do is find the people that have been sued by the RIAA or MPAA and counter sue based on the same reason he’s using right now. John Does 1-10 thousand are suing CBS because CBS actively promoted piracy through download.com and then sued the same people that took their advice. And then John Does can get the money back they already paid in settlements, lawyer fees, time spent, emotional trauma, etc… But I doubt he’ll do that, he’s suing CBS for potentially lost sales, something that you can’t even really track.

  • Naomi

    wtf is this shit? can’t even get a demo or trial , you can get sued – how pathetic.

  • SJ

    There are lobbyists who’s entire FULL TIME JOB is to troll sites like this to brainwash you kids. CBS will be the HERO and you’ll all drink the 20 Billion Dollar Corporation’s Koolaid!
    Alki David is trying to STOP this legislation to destroy the internet by exposing a Huge Mainstream Media Plot to Create Piracy to force Legislators to give corporations internet control. It’s working as planned ! And Trust me Sumner Redstone of CBS ? Viacom won’t let someone like Alki David Stop him!

    Look at the direct Evidence with open minds if you want here; http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/2011/05/songs-and-bands-openly-used-as-test.html

    But The Laws WILL Past and the RIAA and the MPAA will control the internet AND control you! So keep sticking up for CBS ?Viacom ? Time Warner Kids, resistance is futile.

    So just walk away, Nothing to see here.

    • Erthwjim

      He’s not trying to stop the legislation, he’s mad because it doesn’t help him. He could care less about consumers, stop trying to cover up his real motives, he wants more money. He’s going after the company that distributed the software because he can’t so after the people that downloaded it. He’s no better than the companies he complains about, he’s just trying to make it seem like he is.

      • Kitten

        Dude, he’s suing CBS /Viacom the Largest Media Conglomerate and Lead member of the MPAA. And you are not supportive of him? You keep givin’ sweet lovin’ to CBS your MPAA Lead Member. He’s going to drag every document out into the open. But you likely are a CBS exec anyway shitting your pants!

        • Erthwjim

          Are you serious? You must not read this site very much if you’ve somehow missed my comments in the past. And it doesn’t matter that he’s suing them if he’s misrepresenting himself. He sued limewire too, so now because he’s suing CBS that somehow negates the fact that he sued limewire?

        • Grumpygit

          @Erthwjim

          When did he sue limewire? (and ONLY limewire, as you suggest)

          limewire MUST be involved in the suit as they had a partnership with CNET.

          Think about this, (If) he wins and it’s shown to all that the MAFIAA have driven piracy for the purpose of gaining control of the internet.

          That would be bad for us because……………..?

  • Anonymous

    This just in: RIAA, MPAA lawyers sue Steve Wozniak for his role in the creation of the home PC.

    • Joe

      Dude, CBS is part of the RIAA and MPAA. And you are supporting what they did? Distributing File Sharing Software with instructional videos and charts using only copyrighted music and movies to encourage users to steal. Then turning around and SUING the same people that did as they were instructed by CBS who is trying to take over the internet?

      • Erthwjim

        How many people did Alki hire to come post on Torrentfreak? I’ve seen articles about this douche on torrentfreak before. He doesn’t care about consumers, don’t make it seem like he’s out there for the little guy.

        • Nerdgirl

          He only hired one Erthwjim – all his ardent supporters have the exact same spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. ;)

        • Kitten

          How many people did MPAA member CBS pay to post on Torrentfreak? How many people are supporting loyally a twenty Billion Dollar corp that includes Viacom? CBS/Viacom took down over 400,000 YouTube videos, Sued Thousands for Copyright Infringement and someone with enough $$$$$ to actually sue CBS back comes along and he’s the Bad Guy? Why don’t you and the MPAA get a room.

        • Erthwjim

          Please point out my grammatical and spelling errors ms “nerd”girl.

        • Erthwjim

          Please point out my grammatical and spelling errors ms “nerd”girl.

  • The Jury

    Can we get a list of these “artists” before the buying season, so we can make a statement with our wallets?

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Up next: This David gets Lily Allen into his lawsuit.

  • Ronan O’Reilly

    Alki David is as crazy as a box of frogs and twice as ugly.

    He’s been sued already by CBS and half the broadcast world, and his stupidity is simply making all those of us who want a real change in the copyright laws look equally dumb.. Nobody takes him seriously, FlimOn is a joke

    • Balls

      I see that the CBS trolls are out already

    • Erthwjim

      Yeah, Alki has been written about in Torrentfreak before, they called him a Loon. I think he even had some bad things to say about torrentfreak once, saying sites like torrent freak should be shut down because they promote piracy… Yeah, Alki is a big joke.

      • TerryJ

        wow Erthwjim i hope they pay you enough to be such a tool because your life is miserable

        • Erthwjim

          My life is miserable? You can tell that all from that one comment? Wow the power of perception. You come to this site and obviously read this article, but somehow you missed the previous articles where the writers of this site actually called him eccentric and loopy (http://torrentfreak.com/filmon-ceo-alki-david-loopier-than-ever-in-new-video-110116/).. also I was wrong it wasn’t alki that said torrentfreak should be shut down, it was another douche (http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-promotes-illegal-p2p-services-expert-claims-110409/)

          I’m not defending CBS, I’m saying this guy that is suing CBS is full of shit.
          “Alki, who is an actor, has joined together with a group of artists, mainly R&B and hip hop musicians, to file this lawsuit against Limewire. But they didn’t stop there; they’re also suing CNET and its parent company CBS, saying that CNET’s Download.com site must bear some responsibility, as the main distributor of Limewire, a piece of software that was ruled illegal by a federal judge last year. ” (http://paidcontent.org/article/419-filmon-founder-alki-david-sues-cbs-cnet/)

          Notice he sued limewire as well. He’s not concerned about the consumer, he’s just pissed because he was sued by CBS and also tried to sue CBS and lost.

        • Grumpygit

          @Erthwjim

          Notice he sued limewire as well. He’s not concerned about the consumer, he’s just pissed because he was sued by CBS and also tried to sue CBS and lost.

          Limewire MUST be in the suit, they had a partnership with CNET and made money through the promotion of copyright infringement.

          Oh no’s, their suing limewire….consumers are doomed……wait..this affects us how????

        • Erthwjim

          Grumpygit, do you not know what this site is about? Did you somehow miss all the articles in the past. By suing a company that distributes software that can potentially be used for copyright infringement, even though it can also be used for non infringing uses as well, kind of falls in line with what the MPAA and RIAA has been doing for years. Which is exactly the type of behavior this site reports about and takes the side against.

        • Erthwjim

          Grumpygit, do you not know what this site is about? Did you somehow miss all the articles in the past. By suing a company that distributes software that can potentially be used for copyright infringement, even though it can also be used for non infringing uses as well, kind of falls in line with what the MPAA and RIAA has been doing for years. Which is exactly the type of behavior this site reports about and takes the side against.

        • Grumpygit

          @Erthwjim

          ANY company that profits from promoting copyright infringement deserves to be sued.

          NOBODY said any other company distributing file sharing software should be sued, as file sharing software is not illegal but if they promote copyright infringement to entice people into using the software……tuff t!tties……they deserve it.

    • Kitten

      Amazing how obvious the CBS Trolls are here! LOL All these People Defending CBS, the LEAD member of the MPAA through it’s Paramount Pictures Division!

      That’s right, You all keep lovin’ the MPAA, you don’t think all this good MPAA lovin is ODD?

      • DivineStupidity

        “SOMEONE DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME, THEY MUST BE TROLLS!!!!”

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  • Nate

    Artists out there, don’t take legal advice from anyone who says the word “copywritten”

    • Kitten

      Hummm, a MPAA Lawyer, Obviously. Glad you know so many legal terms to the letter. Well, you keep sticking up for lead MPAA member CBS then kiddo.

  • Donna

    this is like four people with different names – two CBS trolls and two people who work for alki david

    • Erthwjim

      I’m not a CBS troll, I just think Alki misrepresents himself. I could care less about CBS, the fact is he’s going after CBS because of limewire, and as one of the links I posted earlier, he apparently is (or was) attempting to sue limewire too.

      • Lucy

        he is not suing limewire – you stated a bunch of things that just arent true – he never went after torrentfreak or any politically mined site, he never sued limewire and hes a beautiful philanthropic human being – so get your fact right

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    The JAC (ie the so-called, self-styled “Justice for Artists (sic.) Coalition”) need to go and JAC-off some more because there’s clearly way too much testosterone interfering with their own sense and levels of sensibility.

    And this billionaire character has the facts totally wrong and even in reverse.
    The internet, if used properly, promotes innovation and enriches artistes whereas multi-billion dollar corporations simply enslave the artistes whilst keeping them contractually bound to remain UN-innovative.

    All the facts, and independent research already exists Mr David – why not try reading some of it before using your billions to bully more people into submission.

    • Grumpygit

      How dare he used THEIR “accepted” propaganda against them!

      Alki is well aware of the fact that these multi-billion dollar corprations are screwing everybody….if he wasn’t……he wouldn’t be doing this.

    • Grumpygit

      How dare he used THEIR “accepted” propaganda against them!

      Alki is well aware of the fact that these multi-billion dollar corprations are screwing everybody….if he wasn’t……he wouldn’t be doing this.

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  • Trencher

    So if I go buy a car and then rob a bank does that mean the bank can sue to car dealer for providing me the means to get to the bank?

  • http://travismccrea.com Travis McCrea

    UGH!! JUSTICE FOR ARTISTS COALITION!!! STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME FEEL SYMPATHY FOR CBS!

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

    It’s interesting that Luther Campbell of 2 Live Crew is one of the plaintiffs. In the mid-’90s, the Supreme Court sided with his Fair Use claim after he was sued for infringement by Roy Orbison’s publisher for 2 Live Crew’s use of elements of “Oh, Pretty Woman” in their satirical song “Pretty Woman”. The parties ended up settling; the publisher dropped the suit and 2 Live Crew agreed to pay for a license to use the song. No idea how much money was involved or whether the license retroactively applied to already-sold copies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

    It’s interesting that Luther Campbell of 2 Live Crew is one of the plaintiffs. In the mid-’90s, the Supreme Court sided with his Fair Use claim after he was sued for infringement by Roy Orbison’s publisher for 2 Live Crew’s use of elements of “Oh, Pretty Woman” in their satirical song “Pretty Woman”. The parties ended up settling; the publisher dropped the suit and 2 Live Crew agreed to pay for a license to use the song. No idea how much money was involved or whether the license retroactively applied to already-sold copies.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

    It’s interesting that Luther Campbell of 2 Live Crew is one of the plaintiffs. In the mid-’90s, the Supreme Court sided with his Fair Use claim after he was sued for infringement by Roy Orbison’s publisher for 2 Live Crew’s use of elements of “Oh, Pretty Woman” in their satirical song “Pretty Woman”. The parties ended up settling; the publisher dropped the suit and 2 Live Crew agreed to pay for a license to use the song. No idea how much money was involved or whether the license retroactively applied to already-sold copies.

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