aXXo Issues Anti-Piracy Warning
Written by enigmax on February 10, 2009Some say he can encode a stack of DVDs in seconds using only his teeth, and that he can command an army of millions with just one NFO. All that we know is he’s called aXXo and he/she/they have some security advice for the worshippers.
The relatively silent aXXo has appeared during the last few days. Speaking with the users of Mininova, he outlined some advice to help mitigate the effects of what he believes to be a potential security risk. The problem could cause downloads to slow down or even worse, he warns.
Not so long ago we posted a technique to bring dead torrents back to life. Basically it involves adding new tracker URLs to an existing torrent so that it’s possible to track the same content on multiple trackers. However, it seems some people have been adding other trackers to new aXXo torrents as a matter of course (probably to try and speed up downloads), with some unpredictable results.
“I’ve seen on the mininova’s comments section some users telling each other to add trackers to a torrent. To add trackers to a torrent that are not included in the original release is the worst thing users can do,” said aXXo commenting on one of his latest releases. “Those trackers don’t know which are the real chunks of the file nor who have the right ones, the information they send to the clients is wrong and the download will be fucked up.”
If it’s not quite clear what aXXo is driving at from the above, it becomes clearer later on. He explains that other tracker URLs that people add to torrents may not be tracking exactly the right content. Peers there could deliberately send bad data in order to hinder people’s downloads, a tactic favored by anti-piracy companies such as MediaDefender. Their effectiveness with these methods on various torrent sites became public last year.
“..there are ’specialists’ manipulating torrents out there,” says aXXo while mentioning no names, warning, “ISPs nice letters are ready for those peers who follow that ‘technique’.”
“That’s my advice,” says aXXo. “Take it or leave it.”
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98 Responses
And this is why public trackers blow either way.
aXXo is a good ripper tho. Props.
Perhaps he is saying that other trackers suck because they have no reliability, unlike Mininova, which is somehow better (in what way, I don’t know)…
Or perhaps he is saying that potentially there may be a malicious tracker…
IMO if your downloading a torrent an wanna add a tracker ,your better off going to the other site and manually adding it , you will know you got the right one when you get that notification ” you all ready have this torrent ,Would you like to add this tracker to it?”(or sumthin to that effect, this is for utorrent users)unless your downloading an aXXo fake ,lord knows there is alot out there put out by the MPAA
Mininova is not a tracker, and as such, aXXo thus must be referring to the original trackers that he put in the bittorrent file. Perhaps aXXo says that he knows which trackers are reliable, and that it would be foolish to indiscriminately add random trackers – although it seems unclear what he thinks of adding reputable trackers, which, perhaps he would also say “no” to.
Perhaps aXXo is just still pissed off at Pirate Bay…..
How ever compliments to aXXo who really contribute to the Millions of share and share alike minions…
i would like to see even a short glimpse of he/she/their setup though…must be huge !
Thanx axxo. Props 4 all u do.
Thats y they make protowall and pg2 people. use it. it’s not a failsafe, but an added layer of security.
maybe I don’t really understand how trackers work, but trackers don’t know anything about “chunks” anyway. They just identify torrent by hash and than track it (if open to any torrent) even if the torrent is not in the database and the tracker sees it for the first time. Try with piratebay. Create a torrent, add thepiratebay tracker and announce it without uploading to TPB. It’s track just fine. (or at least it used to if it doesn’t work anymore.) I know not every tracker is open to unknown torrents tho.
Anyway, as for the tracker doesn’t know whis are real chunks of the file and who has right ones. WTF? Role of the tracker is to introduce peers and get updates from/to everyone in predetermined intervals, no? Client itself does the hash check of every piece when received and bans the peer that sends too much (set) amount of failed hash check pieces.
I mean it would be nice if the tracker could identify poisoning peers and filter them out, but they would probably slip in the swarm anyway through DHT or PEX on non private torrents, so it’s still up to each client to receive enough hashfailed pieces to trigger ban.
good axxo, long life axx, stop berlusconi.(fasci,nazist,masson)
#10 is right.
Axx0 is a pure faGGot who don’t understand tha thknology in the beat river.
Doesn’t aXXo release through a specific tracker and forum? So then these dwnldrs re-up to another tracker…
I’m not so sure he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s been at this since the beginning, and I’d love to see evidence that he’s ignorant of something. As for #10, I think you may be right, but by the time a ban could be triggered, couldn’t your IP addy already have been logged by the idiot crew’s henchmen?
Just a thought
loved the aXXo-stig picture xd
How does an added tracker help anti-p2p spread false data? The data comes from clients, not trackers. The trackers just track peers, they dont send any data.
axxo is good..
but i wish he could put the dvdrip’s up with better quality, at least 1400mb would be good.
well I was blocking over 200 anti-p2p ip’s through axxo’s torrents weekly. why didn’t he/she/they mention that to their followers?
Their are anti-p2p spy companies in some countries trying to monitor & corrupt BT. They fail if you keep up to date blocklists in your BT client or purchase some form of tunnel. The reason these criminal organizations get away with these practices is simply because we pretend to ignore them and yet they continue to leech statistics off bit torrent.
Privacy is a right, despite whichever draconian measures are in place in your country.
I rarely use bit torrent anymore.
Axxo’s torrents are always 700mb good quality but by no means the best. I need 1080p to satisfy my taste.
axxo, stick to transcoding and leave the tech ‘info’ to the informed.
There are spytrackers out there, so be careful about where you get your torrents from.
Putting a different trackerset into a torrent won’t change the torrent’s hashcode so the content may be the original, but the spy-tracker will register your IP and can also be used to insert torrentpoisoning peers that are banned by the original trackers.
yeah I wish axxo would make his rips larger.. I think everyone has moved on from burning them to CDRs or mabye im wrong.. but you with think everybody has a DVD burner or is reading them straight off the HD.
That would be a interesting study..
torrents are just plainly the wrong medium, especially for up to the minute stuff, torrents are being unfairly targeted as a medium for illegal p2p, those with more sense look elsewhere.
@19 someone else
“the spy-tracker will register your IP and can also be used to insert torrentpoisoning peers that are banned by the original trackers”
Although one might not add these trackers, more malicious people (like the trackers themselves, or those torrentpoisoning peers) might do so themselves, and then upload these torrents somewhere. How does one deal with that?
I agree with #20, I prefer 1:1 Full DVD rips, and burn to a single or double layer disc. Just because we’re pirates doesn’t mean we have to have less than perfect vid, if the 1:1 is available.
I usually download the HD version, Wrigley. You should try it. Far better quality in a 720p rip than in a DVDr despite being the same size.
Axxo, have you thought about HD rips. I was impressed by their quality. Thanks for all the DVD rips. They are fantastic. aXXo Rules!
Where can I find the video aXXo posted?
I love the 700mb rips…i still have a super def (SDTV)-and i only stream off the 360 anyway from my puter tho…so i cant complain.
as for aXXo…keep -et coming with the rips…because I ONLY download FROM U!
Ok for all the haterz on the super-def tv…yea u can SUCK it…bc super will always be better than high!—lol, i kid…man i cant wait for those tax refunds!
Yeah….whatever.!
Move over aXXo, and welcome in secretmyth. High quality h264 DVDrips at 700MB and they don’t even compare in quality to aXXo’s
YOU FUCKING BASTARDS, YOU RIPPED OFF THE STIG. I HOPE TOP GEAR SUES YOU.
I’ve barely any idea whether aXXo is one person or a group, either way they don’t do anything particularly special.
Wow, you can take a DVD and transcode it to a reasonable 700MB file, how utterly remarkable.
Why do they receive so much praise and attention, they’re not doing anything new or different.
“aXXo is a good ripper tho. Props.”
your a fuckin idiot. the only thing he rips is his dogs ass when hes fuckin it. he does nothing more than reencode scene rips you retard.
Anon, they were “new” in the beginning 2005 but now its just normal…but because they got first praise when torrents started becoming popular they stay popular
more power to you aXXO… And yes, I don’t understand why people try to bring dead torrents back to life by adding random trackers – idiotic thing to do…
well im kinda new to the whole torrent thing after reading about the trackers i was just about go in isohunt.com to get a movie and bam i get this red ass screen talkn bout that malicious bullshit i think cuz im a google chrome user lol……but to the real aXXo ya movies is the shit tho but u need to start doing bluray movies cuz…….. but that trackn shit i dont even bother with all that i just look and download only have problem when i get a fake ass copy every now and then but like i said i move to blurays now
Or you could use private trackers?
Youre not safe using open trackers, you never will be. And I am not saying private trackers are remarkably safter but if youre going to get caught why not get caught downloading really fast.
[quote]“Those trackers don’t know which are the real chunks of the file nor who have the right ones, the information they send to the clients is wrong and the download will be fucked up.”[/quote]
That’s a pretty silly remark: trackers don’t sent bad data, clients can however. BT clients have built in hash checking for faulty pieces and other clients which send bad data are banned by your client. The download itself can’t be corrupted, faulty pieces will be discarded and re-downloaded. (well not yet, until they break the SHA-1 hash algorith maybe). A download might take a bit longer but it won’t be corrupted.
Of course Usenet/Rapidshare are better, faster and safer alternatives to BT, at least for the über popular axxo stuff, you just know anti-p2p will be on it.
Bruv I support aXXo!
The guy is sick!
:P
AxxO for da win!
So what if a company logs my I.P. and then threatens to use it as some kind of evidence. I would just tell them to go and fuck themselves.
For all they know I might not down/upload one single piece of data on a torrent. They could only ever prove you were infringing copyright if they download every piece off you. Even then they can’t do anything against you as they had permission to get that file off you, which in turn means you were ok to up it to them. If not, they would have to sue themselves.
Before all that they have to battle to get your identity off your I.S.P.
Can’t wait till they try anything with me (which I doubt will happen).
We’re not worthy, aXXo.
No Mininova was not the tracker that aXXo was talking about but the files that was being D/L I know a lot about these false tracker that he is talking about and yes that can really fuck up the D/L and all so some times even stop the D/L so IT IS better to do go to the site of a tracker and get it there..
:>
What a bullshit. No Tracker knows “which are the real chunks of a file nor who have the right ones”. A Tracker only knows who MIGHT have the right chunks. All the verification stuff is handled by the clients.
Stick to your uploads aXXo.
Thanks for your uploads aXXo.
@20:
Torrents with fake trackers can be re-uploaded, but they won’t be posted by aXXo’s own accounts so that’s why it’s important to seek out his real accounts first.
And if you’re paranoid, you can turn off your “peer exchange” and “DHT” options, though bad IPs can appear on any tracker.
Some sites (even listingsites) inject other trackers into the torrents – this is something that all releasers should be aware of, as I know aXXo is, so choose your releasesites carefully.
@37:
Reread Moe1210’s comment -> he is saying that trackers don’t know which peers are bad ones and can’t filter them out because they don’t get the chunk/error info (yet).
haha
HA! I love the top gear reference! Major props!
Some say that he has an Ethernet port on the back of his skull and that his brain is running uTorrent. All we know is that aXXo rules!
Thanks aXXo
this technique has actually been known since we got a copy of the media defender source code and began reassembling some of there lovely application suites.
There are ways of course to fix the problem and they include forcing SSL between clients and have that byte be hash checked before getting to you yes a bit slower and with encryption ya tiny bit but this begins the true process of securing up a against harmful MORONS that cant play nice in the SAND box, now, i have ONLY SEEN ONE PRIVATE site have issues and they were after i uploaded the content and then someone altered it alter, other wise 99.99999% of these issues are from public sites like axxo uses.
adding to the above your client says this tracker added url is not form original swarm , prove hash check via ssl , and if ok then send be this byte, and so on.
With faster speed connections that’s ok.your basically connecting like a ftp client and verifying your self , in fact you could kinda of have YOUR client DO the hash check of the other persons bytes as they go and you can make increased hash checking make more verifications as in bigger hash files.
Also failing repeated hashes should get the use ip sent to mods to check them out.
keyword you mess with us we’ll pwn you.
oh and creation of a bad ip database is one way to get more proactive. Especially at the smallish private sites that can share said data as good communities should
Thanks aXXo for advice.
and thanks for ur uploads.
adding know & big trackers won’t cause this problem.
though the topic is really the integrity of axxo, the comments are making it that.
so in my opinion he downloads scene releases and re-encodes them to a 700 mb file. useful for users with low bandwidth, but hardly worship worthy.
ffs, *isnt
SCREW PUBLIC TRACKERS
If anything folks (noobs) should be deleting extra trackers but the known & big trackers. to be safe.
Why do people compare him to the stig? :S
He talks about the download being fucked by adding trackers to a torrent, but what the hell happened to checking hashes and all that jazz?
-S
Greatest intro ever. :)
Let’s hope Top Gear doesn’t have a copyright on it! ;)
Hehe just like The Stig :-)
None inno duwlerion iz farft inoll
For those who didn’t understand,
he is not saying that other trackers are bad, but adding new trackers other than the original ones when the torrent was created could mess up the download due to people who would want to fuck up a download. basicaly his advice is just download the torrent file and start it without any modifications. sometimes when the dl is slow adding new trackers could help, but it’s a potential risk of not getting the content at all.
good ripper my ass, shit encodes from quality scene releases with no credit given.
Lame and lamer still, most new “axxo” aren’t even following ANY standards anymore.
the scens is retarded and so is everyones obsession with axxo
god this shit is so retarded
Fuck aXXo, get real quality.
public trackers suck.
great if you got a 1-3mbit line or some shit, and dont care about gettin caught.
bad if you want high quality or even a reliable rls.
anyone can upload, use your fuckin head.
want priv trackers? join a trace chan on some random irc net, /j all the available trackers there is.
just a tot
Is axxo an idiot? Torrent clients hash check the pieces they receive. So, yea…people can send you bad pieces and they will be dropped. The files WILL NOT be manipulated in the process, however.
Either way, who cares what Axxo thinks you should do with his releases. Axxo releases are terrible.
THANKS AXXO! PLEASE SEED! :D
Check-out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AXXo
AXXo rock’s.
aXXo is a god……..keep on goin lad…..peace out….
He is right on the money-if you want to slow down torrents to a crawl add more trackers. Don’t do it!
DaBear
This interview was not aXXo…. and it was quoted/ made up from a person at mininova whom claims this bogus waste of cyberspace in the typical troll-like fashion. They fancy the opportunity to give rubbish out to every bloke indeed :(
Lol @ the Stig gag! :D
dude i used to think your were a god in rippin movies. but you cant compare to the Scene. you suck so much that you re-encode your movies from scene releases. dude stop. Please Just Stop. you suck, and i’m not hating on you cuz i thought your freaking awesome but now you just suck compared to the scene. and for issuing a Anti-Piracy warning, really a Anti-Piracy warning. you upload to a site that is full of viruses and full of feds. but how the hell can you issue that man. you a pirate man. don’t do that. just please man like you did a year ago, STOP REENCODEING MOVIES FROM THE SCENE
Axo issues what?
And this is news how exactly…?
Some two-bit uploader who happens to be able to rip a DVD to a 700mb file and strangely gets worshipped for it is one thing but for any site to take this ’story’ and report it like it really is a ’story’ is what’s puzzling me!
Anyone with half a brain cell can go and read a bit more about the bit torrent protocol. By about the second page or so, you too will realise this axxo character has not got a clue!
I find his remarks pretty funny considering that his fans will be defending what he says as they have no clue either!
It is already evident and happening on this page!
Sheeple…Zzzzzz.
First Axxo can’t even encode a film to the rather modest scene standards, now he can’t grasp the concept behind the bit torrent protocol’s built in data verification. Furthermore, it’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that the MPAA is more likely to disrupt your transfers if you add another public tracker to a torrent that’s already on a public tracker.
Axxo is either an idiot or someone is using his reputation to diseminate idiotic misinformation.
Here’s a suggestion: Get on goem or ptp where you don’t need to worry about adding trackers to your torrents and where uploading axxo’s subpar releases are against the rules… Problem Solved.
aXXo is a rolemodel hahah.
If you’re worried about torrent poisoning and getting logged by the MPAA’s outsourced goons…
STOP USING PUBLIC TRACKERS.
The very fact that you’re using a public tracker leaves you vulnerable to getting swept up in a lawsuit or downloading an extra 5gb of bad data. Furthermore, public trackers will always be slow with or without poisoning simply because there’s no motivation, beside altruism, for users to seed after they’ve finished downloading (and the majority don’t).
Another reason to use private trackers is more access to high quality, multi-pass CCE encoded videos rather than axxos single-pass dvdfab-quality rips.
@60 … I’m glad I’m not the only that realizes aXXo just reencodes the good quality 2 CD releases from the scene and releases them as 1 CD passable versions. Really, they are only useful for the uninformed, people with bandwidth limits and people who download-watch-and-toss.
aXXo,
A thousand words of gratitude to you my friend. What you do, what you have done for users worldwide… there is no proper way to thank you in this matter. It must not be easy aXXo. Truly. But your cause is just, and your actions are selfless. Your works are justified. Even if you pass on, your legacy will not be forgotten.
You are no God, nor idol for worship. But you are a friend, and a friend to many. Wether it be uploading movies, or donating to a shelter, the concept of giving remains the same. You give and inspire, fulfilling your task in the way you see it best.
Throughout the world, your courage is admired. Your name is spoken 16.6 times per/min worldwide on average in over 27 languages on 5 continents. Glory is coveted by countless millions, but the strength to move forward through the raging darkness around us is greater than any human trait. This day is a day to rejoice my friend, for what is greater than a friend? Over one million people support you and wish you the best. Were it possible I would speak for each one of them.
May the glory of your works prove to the world that freedom can be found within all. Don’t stop what you got. Don’t stop until you find the sweet spot.
When I download torrents publicly (now a rarity) the first thing I do is check the tracker list for urls that I don’t recognize. If it’s not something that immediately comes to mind I REMOVE it from the list, never do I add public trackers anyways.
post #19 got it right as aXXo was eluding too.
I’ll bet 90% percent of axxo’s fanbase was trained by religion not to think anyway.
That is not true. aXXo just steal releases and he does not even know how BitTorrent works. It’s now an undisputable fact.
aXXo
Put my BluRay Burner to work!! get me 1080P ;)
axxo you suck your a n00b p2p releaser leave it to the scene prick
ThX aXXo !!! Who doesn’t like your releases should not download them…. simply! But I do!
AXXO RULES!!!!!
Arrr… These were my thoughts exactly.. Im sure there are people modifying torrents out there.. I don’t recommend it either..
The Scene pwns your ass you should no one would miss you
The Scene pwns your ass you should die no one would miss you
i cant believe all these people who think axxo is some kind of genius??!!!you peeple should do your research. Look up ‘Scene Release’ ‘Centropy’ come back and then post. Axxo is girly shit.
The tracker connects people that have the same file. If i make a torrent file of a movie, its going to have a specific hash check. The tracker cant be added to a torrent and make you recieve the wrong file or data. Its impossible. Your torrent client checks for file verifcation. Thats why the SCENE which puts the stuff on the net before this loser does, is they include a SFV to check all contents of the file. AXXO is a loser and if you worship him or download stuff with his name, you must like re-encoded/downgraded/re-rip of shit that was put out before he even got his hands on it.
that’s not actually what axxo said, some idiot made it up on mininova. why is there a whole article about this bullshit?
woahhh, this shit gets ridiculus aye, 93 comments about bullshit. . well here i go haha,
#1 aXXo didnt say any of this,
#2 SceNe releases are the best, but aXXo releases are what u want when your low on bandwidth, or know your just gonna delete it after u watch it anywayz
#3 you should only use trackers u trust
#4 DONT ADD TRACKERS, Private or Public
#5 GET IN ON THE SCC! ! !
im out
PEACE!
axxo is a c*nt who just steals/re-encodes scene releases and tries to pass them off as his own. w@nkers are cheap and moronic, that’s why they’ll praise that tw@t for low bitrate sh!tty re-encodes. f^ck you all :)
Axxo rules, thanks for fine stuff you up
First, it’s the snobby whores preaching about preferring lossless over mp3… now it’s having a HD rip vs. an archivable copy.
When’s this horseshit gonna end?
A rip is a rip, no matter the quality – and you’re not missing anything by dl’ing a lossy version either.
Get the fuck over it already.
@1 aXXo doesn’t rip, he re-encodes other people’s rips.
@90
gawd, i miss centropy :(
ah, the good ol’ days
as for axxo
his rips suck
even scene releases 700mb movies, its much better than his shit encodes
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