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BitTorrent Inc. Goes Social, But At What Cost?

BitTorrent Inc. has released a major update of their mainline client. After introducing Apps about a year ago, the latest beta version of the popular client now adds ‘personal content channels.’ These channels function as small social networks that allow users to easily share content with a group of friends. An interesting concept, but also one that may eventually come at a cost.

BitTorrent Inc’s developers have come up with numerous new features for their two BitTorrent clients in the last year. Both uTorrent and BitTorrent mainline have expanded their functionality, and the latter client also got a complete redesign to set it apart from its big brother uTorrent.

The BitTorrent mainline beta version, codenamed Chrysalis, debuted its new design in March. With a different, less complicated look, it was built to appeal to BitTorrent novices who otherwise might stop using the software.

Yesterday, the BitTorrent mainline client added another major feature that is supposed to appeal to a broad audience – personal content channels. In the latest beta users are now able to create channels where they can share content with a selected group of friends.

The new feature basically creates a small social network inside the BitTorrent client where people can share files no matter what the size is, something that’s not possible with existing social networks.

“Until recently, most of your personal files were small enough to email or post to social networks. Now, it’s really easy to shoot HD video with your smartphone or snap high-res photos from a digital SLR. What happens to these giant files? They sit orphaned on your computer, or over-edited to make them small enough to share,” BitTorrent’s CEO Eric Klinker explains.

“BitTorrent removes the size barrier and makes it simple for you to openly share your creations,” Klinker adds.


BitTorrent’s personal channel

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According to BitTorrent protocol inventor Bram Cohen, the new addition is a perfect match for the client. “BitTorrent’s distributed technology was built to accelerate the transfer of large files,” he says.

“Personal content channels are an ideal use case given the asymmetric nature of bandwidth and the costs of file hosting. The more friends you add to a channel, the faster your files will download. This is an emerging market and we’re excited to see the technology solve modern Internet challenges,” Cohen adds.

Although it will be hard to convince the hardcore BitTorrent users to adopt it, we can see the purpose of the personal content channels from a novice perspective. Setting up a channel only takes a few clicks and is pretty much dummy-proof, so in that regard the developers have done a great job.

That said, the announcement also came with the suggestion that these channels will not be completely free in the future, and that might be less appealing to most users. BitTorrent Inc. told TorrentFreak that they’re not sure what the cost will be, if there will be any at all, but that they’re keeping it open as an option.

The same is true for bringing these personal content channels to uTorrent. Right now they are only implemented in the BitTorrent mainline client, but this may change in the future.

“We’ll see how the channels work for the BitTorrent community and if it’s popular and makes sense, we’ll take a look at the idea. In that case, it would be implemented in a way that considers the needs and priorities of the uTorrent community,” TorrentFreak was told.

The last ‘cost’ we feel we have to highlight is privacy. Large files shared in ‘private’ personal content channels are in theory not easy to discover by others, but since they use DHT, there are some specialized search engines that may pick them up.

In other words, don’t share anything the rest of the Internet isn’t supposed to see. Once it’s posted on BitTorrent, there is no central place to take it down either, if other people are still seeding the file. Bottom line is, be cautious while sharing.

It’ll be interesting to see how the personal content channels will be picked up by the public and what changes will come along with them. If anything, BitTorrent Inc. can’t be blamed for not trying to innovate, which is gutsy in the generally change resistant BitTorrent community. Time will tell whether they’re right in doing so or not.

The latest BitTorrent beta is available here, and more info on how to get started can be found at the BitTorrent blog.

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  • Anonymous

     So it’s basically like DC+ now… You connect to a person (or “group”) and get their “shared list” & download from that. This is something old that never really worked out as intended & slapping the bittorrent name on it will do more harm than good, I think.

    • I_kill_you_fuc Ker

      who cares about your opinion?

      • Acheron

         I do.

        • hotdog

          Same here.

        • Hotdog please

          Can I eat you Mr. hotdog?

      • Mullit

         It is reported that Anne Muir was not a leaker or a site administrator, but a simple file-sharer on the Direct Connect client. (quote from TF).

        You should. Every filesharer/infringer who has been caught has been found to be using this sh:t (DC++) client or similar. Without encyption (inc filenames and headers) you’re toast.

        • Alana

          learn to hide ip…. 

        • Fritterking

          That wont help unless ALL family and friends on your list do the same.
          One of them is bound to forget.
          This is fish-in-a-barrel joy for copyright tracers. Crazy, crazy BT idea!

        • teapot

           would be useful with a tutorial link  attached to your comment =) 

        • Alana

          learn to hide ip…. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_325GOIIEIC7ZRQUHFP6DVKJCAE Anonymous

         how about you just STFU?

        • Ninja

           The fck did you come with yahoo-325GOIIEIC7ZRQUHFP6DVKJCAE for a nick? Let your cat walk over your keyboard? o.o But I agree with your comment.yahoo-325GOIIEIC7ZRQUHFP6DVKJCAE for a nick? Let your cat walk over your keyboard? o.o But I agree with your comment.

        • Ninja

          The nick is so weird that my comment got screwed up.. Probably an issue with the little component behind the keyboard lol 

      • SomeAsian

         Actually, most people who read this blog and those who care enough to share their thoughts.

    • Alana

      It never really worked wtf? I have seen thousands of direct connect hubs in the past and with hash tables, u don’t even have to be connected to the hub to dl files anymore. Learn to internet before u speak… 

      • Ninja

        Wow really? I’m gonna research that 

    • Alana

      It never really worked wtf? I have seen thousands of direct connect hubs in the past and with hash tables, u don’t even have to be connected to the hub to dl files anymore. Learn to internet before u speak… 

    • Anonymous

       oops… someone is upset by your “opinion”…. :  )

       I agree… It’s the sorta sharing method that doesn’t really appeal…
      ( filehosts like mediafire are by far the easiest way, to share large private files )

      Most worryingly from a user’s point of view….
      HOW is the users ID remembered ?
      WHERE is the channel info / messages stored ? 
      Are ALL the clients now exposing their location to B.T.inc ?
      Do users have to log into B.T.inc to be able to share ?

      Seems like……to me…. B.T.inc….are trying to be the sharing gatekeepers… Everything goes through them…. mainly so they can profit….

      The files I share…the people I share with…. even the communication in between…
      I would not be happy giving all of my sharing habits and contacts to B.T. inc…..

      • Ninja

        This tendency of bittorrent inc to make things go through some unknown server is quite bad… 

    • pepsy

       It’s not like DC++. First of all, you’re using torrent technique.
      Your rant doesn’t even mean anything, you just talk bla bla.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

       Not quite…Yes, it does contain the functionality of DC++, and say what you like about that program – it worked well enough to become popular.

      That said i think adding this functionality to Bittorrent is vastly redundant, given the numbr of programs which already accomplish the same. It does add a larger user base given how many use bittorrent, and that may help in competing with other bittorrent programs.

    • Ninja

      Actually it’s a good idea if it’s kept private. I understand it’s intended to be some sort of limited social network for that specific torrent only.

      I’ve already shared big photo albums with friends using BT and my own private tracker. But most ppl wouldn’t have a clue about how to do that.

      I can only think we’ll need to sit and wait where it’ll head.

  • bob the butlur

    I wont use it, but what is so bad about it?

  • http://toby7728.myopenid.com/ TT7728

     I don’t mind these new features, because I just wont be using them.

    • Ninja

      That makes two of us. I hope they keep them away from utorrent (or make it available as some addon) 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-DefCon-Ebeling/616024625 Jason DefCon Ebeling

    I dont see any use for this

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    “The new feature basically creates a small social network inside the BitTorrent client…”
    and
    “The more friends you add to a channel, the faster your files will download.”

    oh please, don’t make downloading like facebook… please don’t make it so if I don’t have over 200 “friends” on the list I won’t get speeds over 500kb/s.. ffs, facebook is too many places already… I don’t need it invading my downloading too!
    and btw keep the current comment system too, DON’T switch to the facebook ‘let me inform the govs all you say and where you say it’ comment system.

    • Davio8

      I think it may be referring to the more friends you have, the more seeders you will have, and therefore faster download speeds

  • Heytunk

    I hope they don’t bring this to utorrent.
    If I wanted my own social network I would put a blog on my hosting.

    Its nice to have features, but I am still on 2.0.4 because I hate the new skin (esp the label tags) and don’t see the point.
    I have a torrent program with a scheduler, web interface and extensive settings.

    • fagsuber

      You have an app that changes the skin. :P

  • SHM

     I don’t understand why this is a “cost” – its either useful or its not – but the “cost” angle to this story is kinda random

    • Nyatsuo

       ”the announcement also came with the suggestion that these channels will not be completely free in the future,”

      Someone needs to read more :P

    • http://www.bootytape.com bootytape.com

      Yeah it’s weird, you can send naked high def videos now and be secured that only the people your seeding too are getting it. :)

      • Hotdog please

         Hey stop spamming ya hotdog.

    • Mullit

      ‘but since they use DHT, there are some specialized search engines that may pick them up.’

      The real ‘cost’ may be you (and 200 of your friends and family) going to jail for half a decade ‘cos you believed it to be safe and private. In reality it’s a potential nightmare.

  • Snizzel

    This client is trash use utorrent…….

  • TerribleTony

    Not much point when BitTorrent traffic is throttled into non-existence by most ISPs these days.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

     And they really think that people will use this new feature to just share videos that they shot with their phone or some crap like that?  This gives a whole new meaning to the word oblivious.,

    • gubbin

      Someone’s phone doesn’t shoot HD video…

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        that it does not.

        • Marcus

           You should get your buddies at MAFIAA and RIAA to buy you a smartphone.

      • Jdbpogo

        mine does, 1080p at that!

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      You are underestimating user-generated content again. Yes, people do, én másse, use their smartphones to create vast amounts of data – from videos of pets behaving oddly to self-made musical instrument instruction guides, all the way to “vigilante journalism”.

      And such data is already being shared and makes up a substantial portion of internet traffic.

      That this functionality will no doubt also be used for filesharing does not suddenly render it’s legal uses irrelevant.

      That said it’s already redundant. Placing private network functionality into the bittorrent client would only really make sense if the next step is to implement I2P encryption and routing to that network.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      You are underestimating user-generated content again. Yes, people do, én másse, use their smartphones to create vast amounts of data – from videos of pets behaving oddly to self-made musical instrument instruction guides, all the way to “vigilante journalism”.

      And such data is already being shared and makes up a substantial portion of internet traffic.

      That this functionality will no doubt also be used for filesharing does not suddenly render it’s legal uses irrelevant.

      That said it’s already redundant. Placing private network functionality into the bittorrent client would only really make sense if the next step is to implement I2P encryption and routing to that network.

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  • https://thepiratebay.org/user/manOtor/ manOtor

    This time, lets just try to ignore Jack ;)…

    I think it is a step into the right direction.
    As Social network sites wouldn’t allow sharing big files, there might well be a need for this feature.
    It won’t be safe – but at least you can argue that you share with actual friends.
    And about the privacy it might cost – there’ll always be those who feel the urge to share their latest embarrassment, or think it is funny to humiliate someone by sharing his latest embarrassment, so nothing new there.
    Thats something you just have to accept in the age of social networks and Youtube.

  • Firkin_brill

    Ok. I get it now.

    I can only share my private stuff. Do I need a model release form for those I video? A music licence for the soundtrack I add to my video or slideshow?  If I swap a brand new track I lay down with my musician partner (and it ‘leaks’) who do I sue if it’s on someone’s new album next month?

    Nope. I don’t have to accept it. See, I ain’t a sheeple. And it is a potential nightmare.

    • Pirate <3

      If you were smart, you’d put an identifier in your music track (a voice over saying the name of your group or whatever and blend it in with the audio using effects…) when it’s just an instrumental, and when you finally have a vocalist, you can remove it from the mix. It’s what I’d do… 

  • bbjones

     Yes it is risky kinda like this….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TueDB9rgC18

  • Alert

    Real-time updating is pawned. (Presume)

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  • Anonymous

    I’ll stick with qBittorrent, thanks.

    • LatriciaKimmeSam

      bittyrant or tixati all the way or seedbox + free download manager to dl off seedbox or internet download manager to dl off seedbox…. 

    • LatriciaKimmeSam

      bittyrant or tixati all the way or seedbox + free download manager to dl off seedbox or internet download manager to dl off seedbox…. 

    • http://twitter.com/yannanth ???????

      Hey man! I use that too in both Windows and my openSUSE installation! Seriously, fuck KTorrent (despite its nifty “KDE integration” features) and ?Torrent (proprietary and no longer lightweight since Griffin)!

      qBittorrent is the greatest! http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/

  • Glib

    Would be cool if the channels had passwords; would make them un-searchable that way.  Possibly the client would encrypt every file that goes into it with a password, then the reciever has o type that password to decrypt it.

    I like the idea, though I will not use it.  I am sure subsequent iterations of this technology will address some of the privacy issues. 

  • 7th_Guest

    Said it before and it’s getting kinda tiresome repeating it, but it seems I must: with the prevalent trends of private data leakages, privacy compromising and DMCA-enslaved ISPs, domain registrars and web service providers all pointing toward a future internet where they’re all ready (and willing?) to deny you service and hand you (or your hosted equipment) over to the MAFIAA the very moment some allegation is made against you, BitTorrent and all BT clients should be focusing more on adding features that test and ensure our privacy instead of looking for hip and “social” gimmicks that will surely have the opposite effect.
    For example, uTorrent has had a Protocol Encryption setting that kinda sorta helped several years ago, now it’s practically pointless and needs to evolve. Give BT clients the ability to perform an ISP throttling quick test of their own (or check against an up-to-date, trusted database of known offenders) and expand the protocol itself if need be to further obfuscate its footprint and port usage.

    Make no mistake, we’re in the middle (if not the worst part) of a full blown IP & privacy war with conglomerate-bought governments and “friendly face” turncoat web2.0 startups and we need the right weapons to survive.When it comes to that, I’d trust shrewd and paranoid coders’ offerings over shiny gifts from yuppie, social marketers’ any day of the week.

  • FIghtingN

    looking good than utorrent beta…

  • FIghtingN

    looking good than utorrent beta…

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