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BitTorrent Seeders Harrass Blackmail Victim, High Court Rules

Anyone who understands The Pirate Bay, BitTorrent and the viral nature of file-sharing will appreciate just how difficult it is to have content taken down. So what can you do when previously private explicit photos of you appear online? For one young lady it seems that no effort was too big or too costly, as court papers from this fascinating case reveal.

During August 2007, ‘AMP’ used her cellphone to take explicit pictures of herself. It was a decision she would later regret, and its effects would end up costing a significant amount of money to mitigate.

Whilst at University in 2008, AMP’s phone was either lost or stolen. Shortly after the images it contained appeared on an unnamed file-hosting service and these were linked by someone to her Facebook account. Although Facebook removed them, it was clear that the situation was developing – into blackmail.

AMP was contacted personally on Facebook and her fathers business public relations team were “threatened and blackmailed” over the existence of images. Then, the genie was let out of the bottle.

During November 2008, the images were uploaded “to a Swedish website that hosts files known as ‘BitTorrent’ files,” court papers reveal. Although not mentioned by name, the revelation that AMP legal’s team couldn’t get the site to respond to DMCA takedowns points the finger towards The Pirate Bay.

Making matters worse, AMP’s real name had been added to the BitTorrent filenames, meaning that the torrents were the first results if anyone typed in her name on the leading search engines. So this extraordinary battle was on – could it really be possible to take this content down?

For the purposes of the action, it was presumed that people most interested in downloading the photos would, in common with AMP, reside in the UK. Therefore, if a court could be convinced to issue an order declaring that the distribution of the material is illegal, then any seeder could be served and ordered to cease his or her activity. If every seeder could be attacked this way, then the torrent would simply die.

While it might be expected that the claimant claimed copyright in ‘the work’ and attempted to take it down that way, instead she sought an injunction “to preserve the right to respect for her private and family life” under the Human Rights Act 1998.

The High Court noted that although under the Human Rights Act citizens have “the right to receive and impart information without interference”, the rights of BitTorrent users to “download the digital photographic images using the BitTorrent protocol and to disseminate them by seeding them” had to be balanced against the privacy rights of the claimant.

AMP was ultimately successful in obtaining an injunction in respect of her privacy and under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997, with the Court deciding that anyone seeding the image files on BitTorrent within its jurisdiction would be committing an offense.

“There is therefore a good arguable case that the conduct of disseminating the digital photographic images amounts to harassment of the Claimant under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and that this is a case where it is appropriate to grant an injunction,” the Hon. Mr Justice Ramsey wrote in his decision.

As far as we are aware, this is the first case of its type where BitTorrent users are expressly forbidden by a court injunction from sharing specific material. But the big question remains – has it been successful?

AMP’s name is secret, the filenames are secret, and the court reinforces the confidentiality of both sets of information by expressly including them in the court order – revealing them would also be an offense. Since we don’t know either we can’t search for them, but it’s likely that the torrents still exist. Whether they have any seeders is key, but any within the jurisdiction of the court should beware.

According to Andrew Murray, Professor of Law at the London School of Economics, AMP’s lawyer will track down seeders in England and Wales (and anywhere in the EU thanks to a European Arrest Warrant) via their ISPs using CPR 31.17, not a Norwich Pharmacol order which is usually the preferred method in such cases.

Reading this case it is clear that AMP and/or her father and family were prepared to spend a large sum of money pursuing this action. Exactly how much is unclear but from the files appearing on, presumably, The Pirate Bay, it has taken 3 years to reach the point where seeding them is covered by an injunction.

Effective? We have no way of saying. But 10/10 for persistence and ingenuity.

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  • Guest

    Sad story…

    • Her name is

      Samantha Brook Chrispin

    • teh Interwebz

      Interesting article Enigmax, it highlights the extremely public and permanent nature of the Internet. Once the cat is out of the bag there’s no going back. Samantha and her father learned this lesson the expensive way instead of just accepting it for what it is.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        True….. personally,if some nude pictures of me ended up on the internet, I would just say “Meh…. big deal!”

      • teh Interwebz

        For that matter, even celebrity Scarlett Johansson with all her lawyers couldn’t remove her nude pics from TPB.

        • Ven

          No offense to the woman in the article, but S.J. has millions of people hunting her photos constantly. Her photos help a whole slimy industry continue to function.

          Apples and oranges in my mind.

        • Samantha Brook Chrispin

          Hi.

  • Guest

    Now I want to see the pictures…

    • Theo

      Now i want to see em too.

      • Anon

        she had too much money and rather letting it die on the vine she had to g t court t stir the post as she got older the images would not be easy to ID her directly in the future…more rich daddy girl nonsense….besides the fact she mad the images and that shows how vain she is….another one who just does not get how the net and google work….it would die alone….she is not fucking madonna lol….

    • Lakisha

      If everyone has been doing it right, keep sharing, ur behind vpn. Also instead of at least admitting that she is a dirty slut, she just tried to cove it up. What a dumb ass. All she had to do was be glad she did what she did instead of take it back after it happened.

      • Prick

        Dirty slut for taking nude pics of herself in the privacy of her room? I guess your mum is a dirty slut too for having sex with a bum and giving birth to you.

      • Ven

        Yeah, stupid people are stupid for thinking they deserve privacy on the internet.

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          In the article it says her phone was stolen – she didn’t post them, someone else did.

        • Ven

          @Jay

          But the damage is ongoing, meaning folks here who think they aren’t causing her further grief to share her photos are wrong. And generally speaking, all of the people here are here because they care about their privacy on the internet.

  • Spike

    You always have to laugh at these idiots, they should be fully aware of the risks of taking nudies in the first place. Keeping them on her cellphone was her second mistake.

    • Anonymouse

      You idiot, a person should have the freedom to do whatever they wants in the privacy of her home, including taking nude pics on her cellphone. The only thing that’s wrong is that there are sad pervs in this world who would use these pics to blackmail an innocent girl.

      You morons would rather side with the criminal and condemn the victim because you would have probably done the same thing. Pathetic!

      • HollywoodAnna

        I think you fail to see the problems with your reasoning. Yes, everyone has the right to do what you like in your own home (except all that stuff the government doesn’t want you doing in the privacy of your own home), but at the end of the day it is also your own responsibility to look after the security of your own home and possessions (which many people, sadly, fail to do).

      • Erthwjim

        This was her mistake. She took pics on her phone and left them on her phone. I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume she didn’t lose the phone the same day she took the pics but did in fact have those pics on her phone for a number of days if not weeks. She could have easily moved them off of her phone onto a more secure location.

        Also with the amount of money she seems to have had access to, she probably could have learned something from all the celebrities that have lost their cell phones and had their naked pics leaked on the internet. Ignorance is not an excuse.

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Really good points Ejim, thanks.

          Given that she’s in the UK, it would’ve been money better spent had she + family simply contracted the shamed News International journalists to hack into her lost/stolen phone to delete the freakin’ images ASAP.

          btw, as an advocate of the Right to Privacy I’ve great sympathy for her. And this awful series of terrible events exemplifies just how careful and vigilant we MUST be about our own privacy – whether or not these highly personal images were distributed as a result of her own negligence (lost her phone) AND a criminal act (either outright theft of her phone OR “theft by finding” which happens when you fail to report the find to Police within a reasonable time).

          Even so, I’d guess she’s more careful nowadays.

          The only thing about this that I’m curious about is her age – I don’t want to see the pix and I don’t want to know her name either, but the article would have been more ‘complete’ for me if an indication of age-range was revealed. Ah well …

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          Where you have pinpointed the root of the controversy, it is ignorant to say that it was her fault or that she ‘deserved’ what happened. You’re blaming the victim. Just as one wouldn’t defend a criminal that threw a brick through the window of an expensive car by saying, “This never would have happened if (so-and-so) hadn’t bought that car.” That stance is ridiculous.

          It’s this backwards thinking that leads criminals to justify their actions. That’s not justification, it’s perverse righteousness.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

        you stupid… she still knew the risks and she should have protected her phone more better, its her own fault for having them there. fuck people cant take responsibility for anything can they?

        • Guest

          Ok, she should take responsibility for her actions. That leads me to a question; do you take responsibility for your actions, including wanting to spread this torrent, despite her regrets and wishes to the contrary? Do you accept responsibility for your despicable behavior, or are you just ‘part of the swarm’?

        • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

          You’re blaming the victim. I bet you’ll rape a woman because she was “asking for it”, too.

          TF is a magnet for the immoral, it seems.

        • Ven

          Interesting concept. Let’s see where we can take it:

          She knew the risks, but failed to prevent her phone from being stolen and now should take her lumps as the information on her phone was her responsibility, even though it was stolen. Hmm… Shall I use this logic to make a case for IP addresses being people? Or for ISPs and site admins being responsible for the content moving on their systems?

          Double standards all over these comments.

      • Sketch

        i agree with you….but i still want to see them lol

      • Champ

        Well if u like to take pics with your phone, don’t forget carrier iq and other spyware applications built into the phone will make sure the fbi see them too, after all its prison planet unless we reverse 1984

  • http://twitter.com/AndyJ Andy Jarrett

    And so begins Streisand effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

  • Anonymous

    The Streisand effect will kick in quickly here. It won’t be long before the name goes public.

  • The_nell_87

    Here comes another Ryan Giggs…

  • http://twitter.com/EternalCharax Stefan Green

    If her name is confidential, and the torrent site they’re on is confidential (if deducable) then how can any legal action be enforceable?

    “I didn’t know (and legally cannot know) that the girl I am downloading and seeding images of had an injunction in place” would be the easiest legal defence ever

    • PlatinumC

      Haha, you have a point there, and a good one as well.
      But just because the information is confidential, does not mean that there are not people out there who don’t know the information. Just a matter of time (not that I personally care, just saying that you can’t subdue/remove any information completly from the big wide internetz).

    • Anonymous

      They will obtain the IP addresses of the seeders, turn these in subscriber name and addresses, then send them a “cease a desist” letter. They have a court order already so to be ignored allows for easy enforcement.

      Their big problem is that not all seeders will now be in the UK. All the time there is but one seed the distribution goes on unaffected.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

      um… i wonder how many people caught with kiddy porn said “i didnt know they were underage”? ignorance is no defence for the law

      • PlatinumC

        There’s no mention that the person in question is underage, and besides, the internet is filled with “teen” selfshot images.

      • Rekrul

        um… i wonder how many people caught with kiddy porn said “i didnt know they were underage”? ignorance is no defence for the law

        It should be though. If you don’t know ahead of time that what you’re downloading is illegal, how do you avoid downloading it? People have a right to download adult material and it’s absolutely not their fault if “Cute girl blowing a guy.wmv” turns out to be a video of a 12 year old. How could anyone be expected to know that the video is illegal ahead of time?

        A person can’t be convicted of speeding if there are no signs telling what the speed limit is, or if the signs are obscured, so I don’t see how it’s at all fair to prosecute someone for downloading something if they have no way of telling ahead of time, that the contents are illegal. Or in this case, that photos of that particular girl are illegal.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          A person can’t be convicted of speeding if there are no signs telling what the speed limit is, or if the signs are obscured

          Bingo. At least here this is true. Unless that person causes some accident then the speed is estimated and it will be used as evidence for a harsher sentence.

          And believe me, I’d download that video. And honestly I wouldn’t know what to do after finding out it was a 12 yr old. Besides, some girls that are 13 look like 18. Do you check the ID of all girls you hang out with?

          [edit] wrong reply button, I mixed 2 replies in the end.. =//
          But my comment still stands ;)

        • Tanisha

          I totally agree but dhs and fbi don’t care, heck they will even post links to images and fake videos and files and raid you and arrest you for it and say u were dl kp even though there was none. Search and you will see they do this all the time

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

    and this why you shouldn’t make these kind of pictures, especially not on a cellphone.

    Then again, if she had the money, a super injunction would have probably stopped it from appearing in the media, but I guess threatening legal action against seeders works as well.

    Also pics or it didn’t happen.

  • Anonymous

    Some of the comments above are disgusting.

    How awful for this girl to be harassed like this, don’t be so uncaring and selfish.

    I hope she gets her privacy back.

    • Anonymouse

      The people posting these disgusting comments are usually computer nerds who never go outside, have no social life and needless to say never had a girlfriend and hence don’t have any respect for an innocent person’s right to privacy. They are depraved individuals!

      • Anonomous

        This is a logical fallacy, one named ‘poisoning the well’:

        ‘Poisoning the well’ is when you discredit someone’s statements with a sort of ad hominem. “That guy had a stay at a mental institution so therefore everything he says can’t be trusted”. One has to take every statement at face value. If monkeys on typewriters hammered out a claim you have to ignore who wrote it and take it for what it says, not where it came from. Specifically, it’s basically pre-emptive ad-hominem, and what they say is like a well – some facet of themselves has “poisoned” the well, and therefore you can’t use that “well” as a source of information.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

        hahahahaha did that make you feel better saying that? rofl hiding behind anonymouse, fucking coward i bet its you aint it? i bet your the dumb bitch we are all talking about

      • YakisA

        inocent, well we seem to have a disagreement there, she made the pics, prob got some tojan on her phone, they copied teh pics, then she lost her phone how it prob went down

      • Guest

        I’ve never had a girlfriend, but I still respect peoples privacy.

    • HollywoodAnna

      Well, she did take the photos herself. God knows why. And if she didn’t want to keep the photo’s surely she could have deleted them from her phone. What would be interesting would be knowing the length of time between the taking of said photo’s and the theft of the phone.

      And in regards to her regaining her privacy, that’s going to be a tough call, as anyone who has a copy can simply reseed the files, either under the same names or under a different name. And in the latter case, good luck finding and removing them.

      • PlatinumC

        Kind of good coincidence to lose your phone after doing something “not-so-common”. Maybe it was done on purpose? :P

        • Guest

          My thought exactly, look at how much psudo-effort was put into stopping the distribution of ‘stolen’ videos from Paris Hilton and Pam Anderson, suddenly they’re bigger stars then ever. My guess is the same thing here, make a big fuss over it to get some attention, and congratulations your now a celebrity.

        • Ven

          @Guest

          Sizable difference between Paris Hilton (an existing celeb and wealthy heiress), Pam Anderson (Baywatch babe, super celeb, one of the hottest women of the 90′s in most polls, with a rock star husband), and this woman.

          And neither of them came out and tried to bury their name as much as the video.

          Do your research, and you will find that this woman is attempting to get her name to not return a million hits for naked pictures. I feel for her, but in the end she will probably just change her name and would be wise to do so.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

      i hope she takes her life, it is awful, awful fucking stupid of her

  • Peqxpmyl

    The DMCA is easily found though, how silly

  • Anon

    Anyone know her name? :)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

      i tried a quick search and got nothing, id like to be the one that outs her on this thread yo

      • Resin

        Why? Why would you want to do that? Do you have no respect for the wishes or desires of others? Do you take joy in causing harm solely for the purpose of causing harm?

        Have some basic human courtesy.

        • Anon

          “Do you take joy in causing harm solely for the purpose of causing harm?”

          ..erm yes.

        • Sin

          @Anon

          (If you’re just saying that this is what Jason is like, and you weren’t answering the question for yourself, then disregard the following.)

          Then you’re probably a sociopath. That’s not an insult, it’s not meant to harm you, it’s a simple statement of fact. On of the key defining traits is callousness, and lack of empathy with victims. This combined with the need for stimulation leads to a desire to harm others.

          Or, more likely, you’re letting the anonymity inherent in the internet make you into a sociopath. In this case, you have no moral fiber, and you only act moral for fear of punishment.

          Or, even more likely you’re lying to look cool on the internet. I’d question why sociopathy is cool, but then again, I’m not that hip, so maybe having no concern for your fellow man is what’s in today. That was true in the past, I suppose it could be true again now.

          In either case, you are a detriment to the human condition, and I would like to politely request that you neither breed, or have interaction with young children. I know I can’t enforce either of those, it’s just a request.

        • Prick

          These are the same people who shamelessly rip off the hard working artists, producers and devs by downloading their work for free. You expect human courtesy from these people? First let them be human and then we can talk. No point is trying to make closeted monkeys see any reason.

        • Resin

          @Sin.

          I wouldn’t go that far. You do make a bit of a point, and can see the logic, but you’re taking it way too far. Remember, you can’t diagnose stuff like sociopathy over the internet. It’s just not possible to understand someone else’s motivations like that without actually seeing them.

          @Prick

          I have to disagree. Filesharing, while possibly disrespectful, doesn’t violate anyone’s rights, and causes no harm, nor any invasion of privacy. FIlesharing is in no way similar in method or magnitude to this.

          I have faith in the morality of the filesharers. I don’t think that the people posting here are a good approximation of what the filesharing community would actually do, and that most of the good, moral people in the community simply don’t feel a need to post on this thread.

          I may not be a pirate myself, but that doesn’t mean that I have to think they’re bad people. They’re not.

        • PlatinumC

          As much as I’ve read the comments on TF, there are people from wall to wall here.
          Of course for example a private tracker has mostly only “decent” people, while on pub the nice people percentage is smaller.
          All in all, if you are downloading something (no UL) for your self pleasure (game, music, porn, w/e), then how are you shamelessly ripping anyone.

          There are pirates who buy what they like, and thats lovely, but even those who don’t buy stuff they like aren’t still making anyone lose any money <- if he can't DL it, he most likely still won't buy it anyway.

          Im 99% certain that the amount of people who would buy stuff only because they cannot download it, is way smaller than the amount of pirates who will buy only because they downloaded it first.
          Win-win to everyone, as we all know… wish it was time for copywrong people to see it too.
          NB – Most likely the points here aren't tied in together well, sorry if it sounds kind of weird, I'm at work, and lazy so I am trying to be as short as possible lol.

        • Cryptic

          @Sin GOOD GOD! You just made me realize I’m a sociopath! . . . sweet . . .

        • Sin

          Oh Goody. I did well.

          Yeah, the sociopath thing was a bit much. Work was probably stressing me out when I wrote that. I’m gonna have to apologize for that.

          I kinda went too far with that one, didn’t I?

      • PelouzeTF

        100% grade “A” douche……congrats

  • /b/loody flies

    im off to /b/ to find out who it is……..

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    Well, blackmailing her was low. But you see, you DON’T leave pics of yourself naked anywhere that falls within any of the following situations: 1- has a connection to the internet and 2- can be accessed if some1 takes physical control of the device (ie: non encrypted). And just in case you don’t show your face in the pictures.

    She should have let it go and live with it. In this day and age I don’t think a naked photo session is anything too bad. If humans saw sex with less taboo and more naturally we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

    That said, links for the torrent plz?!

    • Anonymouse

      Yet another lowlife scumbag with no respect for anyone’s privacy. Taking the moral high ground and then wanting link to the torrent.

      • Anon

        You mad?

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        U mad bro? It’s in the net already, privacy is already lost and I enjoy a good woman’s body to the point I think it’s a work of art. What’s the problem?

        You can be assured that if those pics were taken with my cellphone she’d be 200% safe. And the pics wouldn’t be in my cellphone on a potential theft. And if I actually needed to steal a device that contained naked pics of a girl I’d keep them away from the net. So just chill.

        Again, since it’s already in the net, linkz plz? ;D

        • Resin

          “What’s the problem?”

          The problem is that it’s a violation of her privacy.

          “You can be assured that if those pics were taken with my cellphone she’d be 200% safe. And the pics wouldn’t be in my cellphone on a potential theft. And if I actually needed to steal a device that contained naked pics of a girl I’d keep them away from the net. So just chill.”

          This does not justify your behavior. This is the equivalent of you finding me stealing from a house, and when you confront me, I say that it’s OK because I wouldn’t steal from a hobo. Just because you have some moral standards does not mean you’re in the right on this one.

          To put this simply, you’re collaborating in keeping her privacy from her. Just because you weren’t the one to steal it doesn’t mean that what you’re doing is in any way acceptable.

          And if you really need to know if this is morally OK, ask yourself this question; “would I download and look at these pictures in front of her, even if she was asking me to stop?” The answer to that should be obvious. The only difference here is your anonymity, and that does not change your morality, only her likeliness to find out.

          Here’s an idea; how about you respect the dignity of another human being, and don’t look for the torrent. Actually give her back some of the privacy that was stolen. It’s a matter of basic respect. How about you actually show that humans can be good people just for the reason of being good. Go look at some porn, and leave this one be.

        • Prick

          If it was your own fucking mother or sister, I am sure you would be singing a different tune. Totally agree with the person who called you a lowlife scumbag because that’s exactly what you are.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          lol, just because your morals are different from mine doesn’t make you universally right either. She lost her privacy already dude.

          Answer to your question: yes, I’d look in front of her and then tell her she shouldn’t worry, I’d still marry her if she wanted (providing she’s my type). Hiding the problem is much worse than facing it. If she reacted by slapping me and never looking at my face again, well, I tried. For the records, I’ve done worse with some girls to fix their self-esteem. I did get some painful hits but they are my friends regardless. And we enjoy our friendship. Sometimes you need shock therapy to fix stuff.

          So I honestly refuse your idea. I’m not really looking for those pictures unless they fall on my lap. But if they do I will look at them and fap if good material. I’d be flattered if a girl fapped for my nude pic that fell on the web by accident =D

        • Resin

          “She lost her privacy already dude.”

          And you’re helping to ensure that it stays lost to her.

          “I’d be flattered if a girl fapped for my nude pic that fell on the web by accident =D”

          And she obviously isn’t flattered. You don’t get to decide that she should or shouldn’t be flattered. She isn’t. You are being disrespectful by not respecting her wishes.

          You don’t get to decide what other people “should want”. You’re supposed to respect, or at least tolerate other people’s choices.

          “fix their self-esteem.”

          When did we talk about her self-esteem? How does that factor in here? We’re talking about you doing something she doesn’t want you to do, for your own pleasure. Don’t try to say this is for her benefit. That’s a fucking lie, and to be honest, I expected better of you Ninja.

          I find it odd that you think it’s your responsibility to “fix” someone else. As if you get to judge what’s wrong. Some people don’t want to be seen naked by other people. That’s not a problem. That’s not something that needs to be fixed. It has nothing to do with self-esteem.

          “I’d look in front of her and then tell her she shouldn’t worry, ”

          I honestly don’t know what to say to that. I don’t know what to say to someone who so blatantly doesn’t care about his fellow human beings. That you would look at a woman who you don’t know naked when she was demanding you stop is abhorrent, and to be honest, I’m startled. I don’t think we have anything more to say to each other, and to be honest, I probably won’t respond to anything else you post. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.

        • Prick

          “I’d look in front of her and then tell her she shouldn’t worry, ”

          I bet you would stand infront of a woman getting raped by another man and tell her its just sex and she shouldn’t fret. That’s the kind of mentality you have. You just don’t give a shit about a fellow human being’s peril or plight.

          “She lost her privacy already dude.”

          Two wrongs don’t make a right does it? Just because her privacy is already lost, doesn’t mean you have to further contribute to her agony. The only thing this shows that you have absolutely zero respect for another person’s wishes. You don’t realize how things like this can ruin a woman’s life, career and self-esteem.

          “I’d be flattered if a girl fapped for my nude pic that fell on the web by accident”

          So that’s the kind of mentality you have. You think all girls want guys to fap to their nude pics? Its evident that you watch too much porn and love to objectify women. Nothing more to say then is there?

        • Ven

          You guys understand that you are crotch-stomping someone’s right to privacy while turning around and whining about every bit of legislation around the globe that could possibly hamper your ability to maintain your privacy right?

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Bah, keep with your zealotry. I couldn’t care less.

          You missed the point. The point is I did worse than looking at some nude pics that leaked into the net in front of a girl and telling her I’d marry her. But you won’t understand. You keep telling I don’t care about other human beings but you didn’t understand the point. So I’m not gonna reply any further.

          I bet you would stand infront of a woman getting raped by another man and tell her its just sex and she shouldn’t fret.

          Yes, keep twisting the things. I’d rather be shot dead than let some idiot rape a woman. But you, like our other friend, missed the point and seems to be unable to understand my way of thinking. So I’ll ignore you from now on.

          You don’t realize how things like this can ruin a woman’s life, career and self-esteem.

          Oh how I do! I know a girl that was raped. Fortunately, with the proper support from her family and friends she managed to recover. That’s my point here, the ones close to her should give her support and she should accept it’s out in the wild. I obviously consider rape the worst thing some1 can do (or one of the worst things) but once done it’s DONE. Hiding that it happened isn’t making it go away. Believe me, a few pics spread on the web is not nearly as bad. And if we had less zealots like you, less taboo it wouldn’t be nearly as bad.

          No1 can stop it from spreading but damage can be kept to a minimum. Face it, accept it, make fun of it and keep living. And friends and parents should give her all the support she needs.

          That’s it, have fun, live a good, square life and be happy on my ignore list.

        • Shiner

          Ninja, I agree with Resin and Ven, but I don’t agree with Prick.

          You’re just denouncing people as zealots, but you’re too much of a zealot for your own cause to stop and think that maybe, just MAYBE, some people are happier without all of their private business being aired.

          Oh, and Ninja, here’s what I really want you to explain; I can understand comforting a woman when naked pictures of her pop up, but where does looking at them in front of her

          If you don’t understand what’s so bad about that, then as a woman, let me explain it for you using a question; Where is the real damage in rape? It’s not the physical element; physical trauma can actually be minimal. No, the damage is in the psychological element, in the feeling of being violated.

          Listen, I’ve been raped, and I’ve had pictures distributed of me naked. I’ll tell you right now that both of those made me feel violated and dirty, and no insincere consolations from some jackass who wouldn’t even have the common decency to not look at the p

          You wouldn’t force a woman to relive the rape, would you? Then why would you look at the pictures in front of her? It feels the same way to us, so why would you do it?

          That”s why Resin called you scum. That’s why Ven says you’re invading her privacy. (Prick is insane, I’ll just assume he’s off the Vikoden right now).

          And what does “I’d tell her I’d still marry her” have to do with this? No one was talking about marriage, we were talking about a stranger, or maybe a friend, not a lover. Here’s something; maybe she’s not worried that this will make her unable to get a man; maybe she’s worried that it will stop her from getting a job, or maybe she just wants privacy.

          Listen, I’ll tell you this right now; I’m an asexual (don’t want to have sex ever) woman, and I’ve had problems with people like you before. It was people like you who took pictures of me and distributed them, because as they put it “I’d love it if some woman jerked off to me. It would make me really hot.” They couldn’t comprehend that someone would feel violated because

          Through my life, I’ve had to deal with zealots like you, zealots who think that everyone really just wants to lose all sexual taboos, You don’t understand that some people just don’t want certain things, and that this isn’t a result of any “social taboo”, but is just part of their character.. For example, I’m assuming that you wouldn’t particularly like it if a lover went to the restroom on your chest when you were making love. I know that some people love that. Why don’t you? Why do you obey the taboo?

          You aren’t as far gone as the people I’m talking about Ninja. You haven’t done anything that bad, and if you met someone who did, you’d probably beat them up. I don’t have doubt there, and I respect you for that. You, as an individual, are a good person. What you do need to do is watch your beliefs carefully, and make sure that you’re careful with the stuff like this, when you’re deciding that you know better than someone else what they want, and when you’re denouncing other people as zealots. Make sure that your beliefs actually encompass what is best and most respectful to other people, and not just what you would like other people to be.

          (Don’t worry about saying “I’m sorry” to the stories. They happened over 15 years ago, water under the bridge by now).

        • Prick

          @Shiner, so I am insane for advocating a woman’s right to privacy? I am actually a bad person for wanting others to respect the woman’s wishes? I am a guy, what have I to gain for supporting woman’s right on an internet forum? Absolutely nothing. I am only doing it because I feel strongly about the issue. May be that was my mistake. May be I should join the opposite party and seed the hell outta that torrent and encourage everyone to do the same. Afterall, privacy has already been lost as Ninja said.

        • Sin

          “I am responsible for my own actions” “Therefore it is all her fault if I look”

          Do you see the problem here. You’re saying that she is responsible for your action. You just abdicated all responsibility. It’s not even one sentence later, and you’re shirking all that personal responsibility. All you said is that she made you curious, and so you looked. That’s not a justification; she didn’t force you to look. All she did was provide a stimulus. You’re the one who chose to act on it.

          Let’s apply your logic in other ways.

          “That guy cut me off on the highway. It’s his fault I shot out his windows” (real-life example).

          “That guy bragged about getting all the right answers on the tests. It’s his fault I cheated off of him.”

          You’re arguing essentially that because someone else gave you any stimulus, you aren’t responsible for your own actions. Do you have no control over yourself? Did she force you to take the action? Did you have no choice.

          The answer to all those questions is no, and therefore, you’re responsible for looking for the photos. The internet isn’t responsible for your actions. She isn’t responsible for your actions. No one held the metaphorical gun to your head and took the choice away from you; you chose to look, therefore, you hold responsibility for violating her privacy.

          What she’s responsible for is the internet looking for the photos. You are not “the internet”. You are an individual, and you hold responsibility for looking for the photos. You can’t admit that because to do so would be to admit that you violated someone else’s privacy, for no other reason than your own personal desires.

          Here’s an idea; show a modicum of self-control. Unless, of course, you’re simply a mindless, brainless simpleton who has no control over his own actions. You’ve been claiming that this is what you are, I suppose I should give you the benefit of the doubt, and believe you there. If someone claims to have no self-control, they usually aren’t lying.

        • Shiner

          No Prick, you’re not insane because you want to protect women. You seem that way because your motivations are based in hatred for filesharers, and you let that get in the way of your arguments, to the point where even the good things that you say are lost.

          You’ve made some good arguments in this thread, and you do care about privacy for women. That means a lot, and I thank you for that. Despite that, you’re still to quick to make personal accusations, and you make the assumption that because someone is a filesharer, they’re immoral and don’t care about anyone else. I don’t think Ninja doesn’t care. I think he hasn’t considered the full implications and meanings of his actions.

          Neither Resin nor Ven think filesharers are inherently evil. They don’t think anyone here is bad by nature. That’s why I separated them from you. Even though your arguments are good, you can’t separate them from the angry rhetoric. Even when you’re talking to me, you can’t hold back from making threats and accusations. That’s the reason.

          Just lighten up the arguments. Be civil. Be friendly. Even if you disagree with someone, be respectful. Then you won’t be disparaged. It’ll help you win people over if they can respect you, instead of disliking you.

          And for what it’s worth, I am sorry. Insane was too strong.

        • Danny

          @Sin

          You seem to be like every troll on here. Take something someone says and twist it and blow it out of proportion. I’m sure you understood what I meant but were trying to be a pedantic prick!

          Of course it is my decision to view the photos (I know its hard for you to understand common sense) but it is her fault that I want to see them (that was my point you moron). Therefore if I saw them it would be her fault, I do not use or search for porn and if she hadn’t started a silly lawsuit against the community I wouldn’t even know the photos exist (see Streisand Effect quoted many times above).

          The simple fact is that torrents older than a couple of weeks usually disappear, this lawsuit has increased the number of peers on that torrent and kept it alive. Therefore its directly her fault that the files are still online (please re-read the Streisand Effect quoted). You can never stuff the genie back in the bottle, you are better just moving on with you life!

      • Danny

        Grow up.

        She was the one who made the mistake. We all just want to see what the fuss is all about. I wouldn’t have the want if she hadn’t filed the case!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

          i bet she’s nasty ugly and fat

        • Sin

          “I wouldn’t have the want if she hadn’t filed the case! ”

          That’s a deflection of responsibility if I’ve ever seen one. I guess you aren’t responsible for your own actions.

        • Danny

          @Sin

          I am responsible for my own actions but the fact she is trying to censor it has made me intrigued. Therefore it is all her fault if I look!

        • Sin

          Ugh. I thought I posted this hours ago. Sometimes, the comment system here gets on my nerves sometimes.

          “I am responsible for my own actions” “Therefore it is all her fault if I look!”

          Funny how that second line contradicts the first one. You are abdicating all personal responsibility, and saying that she is at fault for her actions. Correct me if I’m wrong, but “looking” counts as your “own actions”. So, how can you be responsible for your own actions if she’s responsible for your actions? It seems like a contradiction there.

          Let’s apply your logic to other situations.

          “That man cut me off on the highway, so it’s his fault I shot out his windows”.

          “That woman looked sexy, so it’s her fault I peeped at her changing”.

          Do you see how in those examples, the speaker is using the traits or actions of others to remove his own responsibility; that’s what you’re doing. You’re essentially arguing that because she provided some stimulus, you can’t be held responsible for what you do. That argument is bullshit. I’d like to tell you that you’re on the right track, but simply misguided, but you’re not. You’re using someone else’s actions to hide responsibility for your own.

          Do you have no ability to control your actions? Do you have no self-control? Did she force you to look at the photos? Did she hold the metaphorical gun to your head, and take away your choice? ……. No, she didn’t. You were not forced to do this?

          She is responsible for the internet viewing the video. You, as an individual, are not “the internet”. You are an individual who is responsible for his own actions, and that means you are responsible for viewing the photos. Yes, she gave you the stimulus of making you want to see them. No, she didn’t force you to see them. So, yes, it’s on you, not her, if you chose to seek them out.

          There is another possibilty to this; you could just be a brainless simpleton, who is unable to control his actions, and acts on any stimulus he recieves. That’s essentially what you’ve been implying you are. I choose not to believe you. I think you’re better than that, and that you actually have a will of your own. If you are as hopeless as you imply in your posts, then I apologize for taxing your limited resources. If you aren’t that hopeless, then I’m not sorry for asking you to actually examine your own morality.

        • Sin

          Please respond in only one thread. It’s easier for me to find. I don’t use the Disqus dashboard, so you don’t need to reply directly to the profile. It will be easier for me if you just reply in a single thread.

          I’ve explained the fallacy of applying the Streisand Effect to the individual level before, but I’ll explain it again. The Streisand Effect works on populations. It states that a population is more likely to view the That does not remove culpability from the individuals in the population. You are, as I’m sure you’re aware, an individual.

          It’s like a woman saying that the overall increase in divorce rates is to blame for her getting a divorce, when the reason actually had to do with the fact that she beat and cheated on her husband, and he got fed up with it. She cited a related population-level phonemonon, and used that as a way to avoid the implications of her personal level decisions.

          “I’m sure you understood what I meant but were trying to be a pedantic prick!”

          Here’s what you said.

          “it is all her fault if I look! ”

          Note the words “all here fault”. In your own words, she holds all of the guilt for your decision, and you hold none. That’s what you “meant”.

          This is blaming the victim logic. Blaming the victim logic is when you say that because the victim could have conceivably done something different, the perpetrator has no guilt. Examples include “that guy had a political bumper sticker that infuriated me, so it’s his fault that I keyed his car” “the woman wore skimpy clothing that aroused me, so it’s understandable that the man raped her” and “she made a fuss about the pictures, so it’s her fault that I sought them out”. It doesn’t mean that the victim didn’t make a bad decision; it’s referring to logic excusing a perpetrator from guilt.

          “The simple fact is that torrents older than a couple of weeks usually disappear, this lawsuit has increased the number of peers on that torrent and kept it alive. ”

          I’m sorry, but are you referring to anything I’ve said?

          Do you think I’m saying that she didn’t make a bad decision? Do you think I’m saying that this lawsuit was a good move on her part if she wanted to Quote me. Find the quote where I said I think she made a good choice, and post it here. You can’t do it, because you aren’t arguing against what I’ve said, you’re arguing against a scapegoat. No one here has said she made a good decision. It’s obvious to everyone that her actions weren’t You’re still the one who choose to view the photos, and you’re using curiosity as a justification for invading someone else’s privacy.

          “her fault that I want to see them ”

          You know what, I’ve actually found out whose fault this really is. It’s you mother’s fault (before you jump, this isn’t a mom insult. It’s a bit more complex than that). She gave birth to you, which led you to be alive when this happened, so you could look at the photos. It’s all her fault. Actually, we can go even further back than that. It’s all due to the Big Bang. If it hadn’t created matter, then you couldn’t have viewed the photos. The boundary conditions of the universe are to blame.

          This example is meant to demonstrate your fallacy; you’re placing blame on the actions of someone in the past, actions that had NO active effect on you when you, AND YOU ALONE, made that choice to look at the photos. You did so without any requirement to do so, and therefore, you shoulder the vast majority of the blame for your own decision. The woman shoulders the blame for the internet seeing the photos. You hold blame for you seeing the photos.

          To reiterate, you act as if because she’s responsible for the internet sseeing the photos, and therefore for you learning about the photos, she’s also responsible for you going to look at the photos. You’re confusing the notions of cause-effect and personally responsibility. In a cause-effect sense, yes

          To explain the difference, let’s use the example of torrent sites. Without Utorrent, I would probably never download any of the stuff I currently do. Knowing that, we can say that Utorrent has a cause-effect relationship with me downloading the infringing content. However, by the logic you’ve presented, they hold the fault for my downloading, because I wouldn’t have done it without them, and I have no fault because I couldn’t have done it without them.

          We know that to be false; torrent clients hold no responsibility for the actions of the individual, so why does this woman hold responsibility for the actions of the individual?

          Please answer that last example in your next post. I think if you examine it, you’ll see the fallacy in how you’ve been arguing, and you’ll see what I’m getting it.

          Knowing all this, can you agree that you shoulder most, not all, but most of the blame for you seeing the photos? We can debate about whether there’s anything wrong with you seeing a woman naked against her will later (that sounded more loaded than I intended for it to), but can you admit the majority of responsibility for your decision? No one is saying it makes you a bad person, no matter what your reason. That’s for you to decide for yourself. Just take full responsibility for what you’ve done.

          And remember the golden rule; if you’re resorting to the “troll” argument against someone writing long detailed posts, you’re probably missing the point somewhere.

      • http://ilike1664.myopenid.com/ why?

        While I do have sympathy for this girl and her very apparent nativity, the problem has been created by this injunction, people who had no interest in this girl or Daddy’s business have now had their interest piqued and want to see what the fuss is about.
        Like Andy Jarrett said above it’s classic Streisand effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect.

        It has moved from voyeuristic and sexual to people being just plain olde curious.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

        yet another dumbass calling others lowlife scumbags, how bout you shut the fuck up you coward, i bet you already have the link

  • Anonymous

    This is a sad case and distributing someone’s personal information under threats is clearly wrong.

    I can only ponder if this is the correct way of going about it? Such photos can certainly be distributed to the four corners of the Internet and be unstoppable should users want to do that. There is no way a UK court order can stop distribution on a server outside the UK.

    It could well have been more productive to simply ask the BT community to remove this torrent. That has been successfully done in the past and even despite the original uploader it could be censored off BT sites.

    My conclusion is that if you start taking photos of your boy or girl parts then you also have to accept the risk should someone else get them. So she does have herself to blame and at least viewers can be understanding.

    Whoever this person happens to be is certainly a sad little prick to harass a woman over a few photos on a lost/stolen phone. Blackmail, threats, sexual frustration, the usual low life breed of person.

    Had this happened to me I would only laugh about it and only be happy if people wanted to see my “Rod of God”. LOL. The winning formula is confidence when then your own meat looks little different to the million other versions on the Net.

    In the end she may have to suck up and accept it. She can be assured that many family and friends all have had copies for the past 3 years,

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I don’t think removal is an option at this point. And I admit I’m interested myself (considering I don’t already have the pic set) and honestly doesn’t make a difference. The blackmail was indeed very low. But now that the floodgates are open she should just live with it. I think this option is way better than trying to stop the water flow with your bare hands.

      I hope she can do it (get over it and let it go).

    • Anonymous

      A few photos? More like 79 pictures of her posing like a porn star. It’s pretty obvious Samantha Brook-Chrispin is an exhibitionist.

    • Ven

      I think her issue probably has to do more with the fact that, should a potential employer, in-law, or neighbor ever google her for any reason, these are the first things that come back.

      And this is unfortunate in that, without the help of sharing communities, she will never get out from under that. It’s something embarrassing she did, that she can never take back nor even get the opportunity to explain to people before they see it.

      It’s just sad.

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  • Anonymous

    lol, so the High Kangaro oCOurt has spoken lol.
    http://www.Total-Privacy dot US

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYUE7I5D36VYM4GXL5VXJVYVJY Jason Steinberger

    someone find this link! i wana see how fat and ugly this nasty skank is, and whoever finds them should link them here!

  • Kola

    Torrent or link please :)

  • Fartface
    • NJH

      Thanks!

      used a throw away Torrific account. Hid my IP from the swarm.

      She is hot. fap fap fap.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Seems the pics fell on my lap. Oh well, I’ll have to look =/

      • puddipuddi

        can we dl in US without vpn or will they get us here too?

        • http://travismccrea.com Travis McCrea

          No you are protected. This only applies to people in the UK, their laws have no effect on you elsewhere.

          *Please note: While I have studied law, this is NOT legal advice – yada yada. If someone arrests you over it, shoot an email to the EFF / ACLU because you didn’t do anything wrong. :)

  • /b/loody flies

    hehehe nice …..now if she would have shut her trap noone would have seen these.now the whole freaking world can haz them.good looking bitch too.lol daddys money cant buy anonymous……oh hey,ever heard of the Streisand effect rich girl?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zack-Nelson/1287355169 Zack Nelson

    This is sad. :(

    I love the internet, and it really gets to me that people would abuse the medium, and actually go about to blackmail and exploit someone like this. I really hope she can get her life back in order.

    • /b/loody flies

      cant tell if troll or just stupid

      • Sin

        Can’t tell if sociopath, or just poor reader.

        • Ven

          He has /b/ in his name, so it’s going to be a lot of both.

          BTW Sin, Resin, Prick, and yourself are all stand-up guys (or girls if that is the case).

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  • Anonymous

    what an absolute crock of shit! how does anyone know that this wasn’t done on purpose? if she didn’t want the pics lost or anything else (distributed), then:
    a) she shouldn’t have taken them in the first place
    b)she should have deleted them after looking at them
    c)she should have deleted them after showing them to whosoever she wanted to see them
    d)she should have kept a closer eye on her phone
    bet her dad found out and she had no choice but to lie about what had happened!

    • Sin

      Oh yes, I’m sure she wanted it. While we’re on this subject, I’m sure that woman walking home at night wanted to be raped. I’m sure the man who didn’t install anti-virus protection wanted to be the victim of identity theft. I’m sure the man who didn’t understand the sounds his car made wanted his brakes to fail when he was on the highway.

      Oh, wait… That’s bullshit.

      Her motivations are different than yours would have been, and she didn’t take the actions you would have, and probably not ; that doesn’t mean she wanted this to happen. People are different. Learn to live with with it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

      I want you to look at this, particularly the part about the just-world fallacy. It explains, in detail, about the basic human psychological failing you are demonstrating.

      • Anonymous

        She meant to memorialize herself in various sexual poses and she succeeded, your analogies to rape and virus infections are laughable.

        • Sin

          “She meant to memorialize herself in various sexual poses and she succeeded,”

          But that’s not what we’re here about. We’re here about the fact that the pictures (or videos, not sure) were posted on the internet against her will. In that sense, she has been the victim. Let’s say that again, because it’s important; she was the victim here.

          The similarity is found in the concept of “blaming the victim”, where people say that because someone could have taken a different action, they are responsible for the crime or misfortune that befell them. This applies to all the examples I posted. The rape example is one where people say that because the woman who was raped could have taken a different route home, or because she was wearing a short skirt instead of a dress, it’s her fault she was raped (this is an argument powerful enough that it has been used as a justification for creating repressive laws in places like Saudi Arabia).. In the virus example, people say that because the old man didn’t understand that he needed anti-virus software, it’s directly his fault that his identity was stolen.

          It’s the exact same principle. People blame her for what was done to her, and they take all responsibility away from the criminal who posted the video, or the people who decide that they want to see the video, regardless of her wishes to the contrary. There is little-to-no responsibility placed on the perpetrators, while there is a massive amount placed on the victim.

          Now if you’re ok with blaming the victim, that’s one thing. I, on the other hand, am not.

        • Sin

          To make this clear, your argument sounds exactly like this. “The woman went out in a short skirt and a tank top. She obviously wanted sex, so it’sOK that the man raped her. The tramp was just getting what she wanted.”

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Not good analogies. You see, what doesn’t fit in your head is the fact that it’s done and while she could have avoided it with a few precautions she can’t undo that anymore. So instead of going Streisand she should just let it flow, get used to it and move on. The blackmailers yes, those should be caught.

          That’s what I’d tell my daughter if she had that problem. I obviously wouldn’t like the idea of hairy guys fapping for her pictures but that’s how stuff works. As long as if it stays like that and there’s no blackmail or any sort of threat for her then let it be.

        • Sin

          Yeah, that’s the action she should have taken. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about YOUR ACTION. The action of everyone who uses Streistand Effect as an excuse for THEIR OWN ACTIONS. That’s the point. You’re taking all responsibility away from the people who are committing the action, and putting it all on her, as if individuals on the internet are brainless and stupid cretins who can’t be held responsible for their own actions. That’s the same argument.

          It’s all in the idea that because of the actions the victims took, the actions the perpetrators took are justified. That the perpetrators don’t have any blame for what they do. That is consistent between my examples and between this one.

          If I may be so bold, from reading your posts, it’s pretty clear that you can’t see this because you’re the perpetrator.

        • Anonymous

          She no “victim.” A victim of what? Her own ego and stupidity? No one is “perpetrating” anything. You are playing fast and loose with words. You don’t have any “right” to privacy, at least not in the United States. And the fact that she is a public figure gives her even less rights then the public at large. (See Paris Hilton.) I guess you think that every one who has ever glanced at an embarrassing photo of a celebrity in the super market line was “perpetrating.” Hell! Most of those people have a better argument that their “privacy” was violated by the paparazzi. Not so with this girl.

        • Ryzzo

          @Sin

          Your analogies are fallacious. I agree 100% that dressing like a slut is not asking for rape. This is not the same situation and if you would take a second away from trying to blast anons on a forum about their lack of morality, I think you’d realize with a little bit of intellectual honesty that they are different situations. Leaving nude photographs of yourself on your phone is not in any way secure. Did she want them released on the web? Probably not. Could she have taken precautions to keep that from happening? Absolutely.

          Saying that this is mostly her fault is not blaming the victim in this situation. Trolling this forum and trying to take moral highroad in condemning the posters here is an exercise in futility. She screwed up, and now she has to live with it. I agree that the blackmail situation and then adding her real name to the torrent is detestable, but that does not absolve her of responsibility for her carelessness. This whole situation stemmed from her bad decisions, and regardless of what happened afterwards, she truly brought this on her self.

        • Sin

          “A victim of what?”

          Of having personal photos posted online without her consent (not the fault of anyone here), and of having individuals continue to spread those photos without her consent (definantly the fault of some individuals here).

          “Her own ego and stupidity?”

          Oh yes, because her own ego and stupidity posted the photos, and continue to seed them. Do you see where I get the “blaming the victim” thing from now? This is it, right there, in that quote. You’re blaming her for what’s happened, and shifting the blame away from the people who posted, then continue to seed the photos.

          “You don’t have any “right” to privacy, at least not in the United States. ”

          No, you do. That’s the centerpiece of the internet; the right to anonymity. It isn’t written into the constitution, but it is recognized as a valid legal principle, if a still partially undefined one. Regardless, I’m not talking about legal principles, I’m talking about moral ones, and morality is more stringent than legality. Morally, people do have a right to privacy.

          “I guess you think that every one who has ever glanced at an embarrassing photo of a celebrity in the super market line was “perpetrating.”"

          There are three key differences. First, celebrities often seek out publicity, and the magazines fulfill that need for them. If the celebrities don’t want to be large public figures, and are forced into that role, then I’d place blame on the magazines that force them into the limelight. Second; passing a picture in the marketplace requires no effort to find and/or see. Getting a torrent does. Someone who sees a picture by accident is faultless. Someone who seeks it out is not. Third; this is not just an embarrassing photo. It’s a photo of someone naked (and in a sexual situation? I’m not sure). There’s a key difference there. That’s the sort of thing that could easily get someone fired, and ruin their lives in other ways.

          “Most of those people have a better argument that their “privacy” was violated by the paparazzi. ”

          I’d say that most of them do have a good argument that their privacy was violated. I wouldn’t say it’s a legally actionable argument, but it’s still valid.

        • Babbott

          @Sin

          I think you are misunderstanding what is being said. I’ll do my best to explain why I agree with you, while at the same time disagreeing with you.

          - Your analogies are misplaced. You compare an idea (loss of privacy) as physical act (rape & robbery). Rape & burglary are tangible (bruises, the act of rape, a broken door into your home, the missing / broken items). In this instance, the issue is privacy. This is the idea of loss of privacy. You can not compare an idea or concept to a physical act or loss. The loss of privacy (people viewing the pictures) is a concept, the idea that people are downloading and viewing these photos is strictly an emotional one. Right, wrong or whatever – you can not accurately compare rape (physical) or privacy (concept). This is the same as the music industry, robbing a music store is not the same as downloading music. Robbing a music store it taking something manufactured and purchased, it has value. Downloading a song has no value except in the assumption that the song downloaded equated to a lost sale.

          - “Blame the victim” is not as black and white as you make it sound. If you are a victim you must be blameless? The idea that 2 wrong don’t make a right, but the person who committed the most wrong is the guilty one and the person who did the least wrong is the victim. As wrong as the person was to take the phone, blackmail and release the photos, she has a personal responsibility to protect that which she values highly (in this case, privacy). If we use your misplaced analogies, you share some responsibility by not locking your doors and windows prior to leaving your home unattended. A woman wearing inappropriate clothing, drunk to near incapacity and deciding to walk alone through an area with a high rate of sexual violence puts herself at risk.

          There is a school that sits near a highway that has a speed limit of 100. Last year a girl (16) was killed while crossing the road. There was a very loud minority which blamed the city for having such a high speed limit near the High School. While I can appreciate the concept, I know the area well as I pass by it to work every morning. There have been quite a few morning where I have seen this particular mother dropping her daughter off on the opposite side of the road because she didn’t want to waste time driving to the other side of the road to drop her child off safely. While I empathise with her loss, I also believe she shared some responsibility for forcing her daughter to cross an extremely busy highway (think logging trucks & construction vehicles) every morning for how ever long she has been there instead of taking personal responsibility in ensuring her daughter didn’t have to cross that road (either by arranging other parents to take her some mornings or actually driving around the block so her daughter didn’t have to cross the highway). When you become careless and put the things that have value to you in the hands of strangers, you will lose out eventually.

          While she has the right to take the pictures & carry them in public, it appears it was a risk she was not prepared to accept.

        • Sin

          @Ryozzo

          No, they aren’t different situations. Let me explain by playing the devil’s advocate with the rape example.

          “Leaving nude photographs of yourself on your phone is not in any way secure”

          Neither is walking out at 9:00 at night dressed “like a slut”. That’s not secure at all.

          “Could she have taken precautions to keep that from happening? Absolutely.”

          So could the woman who was raped. She could have carried a gun, or mace, or walked only on lit roads, or not dressed like a slut, or taken a taxi, or had an escort, or etc…..

          Do you see now how the logic is the same between your defense of this situation, and between my devil’s advocate? Do you see the similarities? I can make this much more detailed if I’m not being clear.

          There is always something the victim of a wrongdoing could have done to prevent the situation. That doesn’t excuse the perpetrators. I know you understand that principle, but you don’t seem to be applying that here.

          At no point did I say she didn’t make bad decisions. That’s unquestionable. She was an idiot, and to some degree, she holds responsibility for what happened. I won’t deny that. I never did. However, just because she holds some responsibility, doesn’t mean that everyone gets off the hook. All the people who sought out the pictures, or seeded them or especially the scumbag who posted them (not anyone here, I understand that); all of them still have guilt.

          What I hate is when people pass off responsibility for their actions, and that’s what I’m seeing here. They just say “Streisand Effect”, and then they’re stripped of all individual responsibility. The passing off of individual response one of the biggest problems in psychology, and it bothers me to see people falling for it, and refusing to acknowledge that they’re falling for it.

          You think I’m taking a position of moral superiority? I’m not. I’ve done things just as bad, if not worse than this. What I have done though, is be honest about what I’ve done, and I’ve taken responsibility for it. And that’s all I want from anyone here. An admission of “yes, I’m doing an incredibly disrespectful thing by looking at and seeding these pictures”. I want people to take responsibility for their actions as individuals, and not pass that responsibility off on a larger cause.

        • Sin

          Oh, and remember the old saying, “A friend will tell you when you’re in the wrong; an enemy will let you stay there”. When it looks as if someone is “trolling”, ask yourself if they actually have a point. Some (Prick) don’t. Some do.

        • Sin

          @babbott

          Man, every time I make a post, someone else posts one minute before me. Harsh. That’s happened 3 times now. Anyway, back on track.

          The analogies aren’t perfect, but you don’t understand what I’m trying to convey with them. I clarified some of this with Ryzzo, but I’ll repeat it here.

          You also don’t understand what I mean by “blaming the victim”. The problem with blaming the victim is never acknowledging that the victim did something wrong. That’s not the concept. The problem is using the victim’s actions as a means to take responsibility away from the perpetrators. That’s the significance in the rape example; people used the actions of the woman to justify the rape from the man (and remember, rape doesn’t have to involve any physical loss. The harm is psychological, just like with the posting of the pictures).

          To explain this, let me explain the train of logic used by many here; pictures were released, the woman tried to restrict them, so the Streisand Effect takes effect, and because the Streisand Effect takes effect, I HAVE NO GUILT IN LOOKING FOR OR SEEDING THE PICTURES (apologies, but that’s the most important sentence in the post, and I want to shout it.). That’s the concept of blaming the victim. Because of what she did, the individuals seeding and looking for the pictures are blameless.

          That’s what very few here, not even you, have addressed; the idea that the people seeding and searching have culpability. It’s not legally actionable; they couldn’t be taken to court (well, they could, but that’s unique to this situation, and it was probably a bad court decision), but they still have guilt. You haven’t addressed what the examples were supposed to say, so no, I don’t concede that they’re bad examples.

        • Beep

          @Sin

          I gotta disagree with you here, but maybe not for the reasons you think.

          I’ve googled the name, found the DMCA Complaint, there are the torrent titles (and isn’t that just retarded), I haven’t downloaded them myself, because I don’t really care about one more naked person on the internet, but I will defend everyone else’s right to with my last dying breath.

          The problem isn’t that she took the pictures (people make mistakes). The problem isn’t that she lost her phone (it’s unfortunate, expensive, and a real hassle when you’ve got your entire life in there). And I really feel for her and her family for being blackmailed, because that is wrong in every possible sense of the word.

          The problem is that she engaged the courts, that they tried to take something off the internet. I know not everyone knows how the internet works, but one simple facet of human nature that everyone understands is curiosity. There are a few simple facts that are pertinent here:

          - The internet sees censorship as damage and routes around it
          - Nothing on the internet is every really gone forever
          - The Barbara Streissand effect guarantees that if you try to hide something, the teeming masses will drag it, screaming, into the light for all to view.

          And yeah, you know what? It’s probably immoral for people to be looking at what someone is asking you not to look at, but it’s human nature, immoral or not, to ~want~ to look. John Gabriel’s Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory states that a normal person given anonymity will not hold themselves to social standards, and it is proven true time and again. Frankly there are much worse things going on around here than this, and I’m not implying that it makes it okay, so much as I am stating that it is irrelevant.

          Yeah, she’s the victim, and it’s not her fault that her pictures are on the internet, but it is her fault that so many people are looking at them. She’s guilty of ignorance, and not thinking things through, and to be perfectly honest I don’t think anyone can in all good conscience exonerate her of those things, without being an anonymous internet fuckwad themselves.

          So yeah, it’s her own fault everyone’s looking at the pictures. Whether she was careless in losing her phone full of nudie pics isn’t the issue. Trying to suppress distribution of them across the internet, is.

        • Sin

          The Streisand effect argument. I know. I’ve been trying to address that one.

          Ultimately, I only have one major response to what you’ve posted.

          “much as I am stating that it is irrelevant.”

          No, it’s not. The actions of individuals are never irrelevant. We can’t interpret this as simply being the will of “the internet”, as if the internet was some dispassionate entity that is capable conscious decisions. It is still made up of individuals, and those individuals make decisions on their own. The Streisand Effect still relies on the actions of thousands of individuals. It’s worthwhile to remember that each of those individuals should be responsible for their own actions.

          The Greater Fuckwad Theory is something I’m well acquainted with, and I’m going with the only solution to that problem I’ve ever found even slightly effective; make people answer for what they’ve done as an individual, not as part of some larger group. If people consider themselves separate from the group, they’re more likely to act morally.

        • Beep

          @Sin

          Alright, well, now that we’ve moved beyond the discussion as to whether it’s okay to blame the victim or not, let’s deal with the Internet Fuckwads.

          So, if everyone on this messageboard who downloaded the pics of AMP were to admit that they were acting immorally, would you be satisfied? Ultimately, it’s a matter of your own personal perspective. Nobody outside of the UK is doing anything illegal, and there is a difference in morality and legality in any event…not to mention the thousands (millions? I haven’t had visibility to the swarm) of people that are downloading that could be unaware of any morality issues to begin with.

          So what it all comes down to is you, Don Quixote. You’re unhappy that people are downloading the pictures and claiming lack of responsibility, though you (in absentia, if nothing else) acknowledge the only reason people are downloading to begin with is sheer curiosity, which isn’t immoral…and if there’s one thing I’ve learned it’s that people are very bad at controlling base urges, particularly when they don’t see a reason to.

          So let’s pretend that everyone stopped arguing with you, that they realized they had downloaded the pics in a moment of immorality, and stopped claiming innocence through anonymity…would you be happy? Would you stop arguing about it?

          It won’t do anyone any good since they’ve already been distributed across the planet and it’s already on the internet, so Pandora can’t close the box back up. It’s not like AMP feels any better about it, since she’s completely ignorant to the whole thing.

          What I’m trying to get at is that it ~is~ irrelevant. Nobody can punish them for their indiscretions, if they are in fact doing wrong. It doesn’t change anything, and the only one it affects in any conceivable way is yourself. It doesn’t even affect the original victim, because the genie’s already out of the bottle on that one (and if it does affect her, as referenced earlier, it’s her own damn fault for bringing it to public curiosity)

          So are you going to give it up as a useless cause, or are you going to tilt the windmills and wind up in a padded room?

        • Sin

          As I stated before, it’s not legally actionable. There’s a higher standard placed on whether or not an action is moral than on whether or not it’s illegal.

          “unaware of any morality issues to begin with. ”

          As also before stated, if someone is unaware of the full context their actions, they can be held accountable for harm done, but not morally culpable. This isn’t an instance of physical harm being done (and the individual amount of psychological damage done is small), so there’s no reason for legal action in any situation. People who hear about this case and want to find it out “for curiosity” are aware of the moral issues.

          “and if there’s one thing I’ve learned it’s that people are very bad at controlling base urges”

          That doesn’t make it acceptable. Just because people are doing it for curiosity doesn’t make it OK to violate someone else’s privacy. I’m personally interested in what my hot neighbor looks like naked. That doesn’t make it acceptable to look into her window while she’s changing. People can control their base urges. If they want to be respectful here, they have to. If they don’t care about being respectful, then they’ll do it.

          “immorality, and stopped claiming innocence through anonymity…would you be happy? Would you stop arguing about it? ”

          Yeah, I probably would. It’s funny that not even one person has done that here (at least, no one has posted about it. You never know about the anonymous readers). Remember, the first step to any social change is being willing to acknowledge a change. I can’t do that by myself, oh God no, but I can be a small part of that. That’s the goal. To get people to change for the better, and actually act as decent human beings for the sake of being decent human beings.

          “Nobody can punish them for their indiscretions, if they are in fact doing wrong. ”

          Punishment isn’t the point. The point isn’t trying to get people punished, the point is trying to get people to actually acknowledge what they’re doing. To force them to actually weigh their actions versus their own moral compass. The best way to do that is to hold it in comparison to another moral compass. To get them to acknowledge that they’re violating another person’s Some people will decide that they don’t care about the rights of another human being if they can’t be punished for their actions. Those people will need to experience dissonance in their real life before they realize their actions. However, some will acknowledge their actions, and will change.

          And as an answer to the “it’s just your morality” argument, I say, so what? My opposition to murder, theft, the consumption of creamed spinach; that’s all just my morality too. My belief in the importance of free speech; that’s just my morality. I’m not saying people have to live by my moral compass. I am saying that if their actions are only judged by the standard of “whatever I want, I should get”, then they don’t have a moral compass, they only have a set of base desires. I’ll challenge them with my moral compass, and make them at least consider their own actions. Some (like Ninja below, very disappointing), will decide that the wishes, desires and rights of others don’t have any impact. Some though, will decide to be better people. That’s the goal.

          “So are you going to give it up as a useless cause, or are you going to tilt the windmills and wind up in a padded room? ”

          A cause is not useless so long as even one person is swayed (also, it’s not tilting the windmills, I have a very clear target, and I can even name people on this forum who I’ve been attempting to confront. Tilting the windmills means ‘imaginary enemies’, not implacable ones”. People are still talking to me, so I can’t quite give it up as useless yet, can I?

          Also, if it’s so hopeless, and I’m nothing more than a crazy troll, why are you here arguing this with me? You’d have to be just as crazy as me. Friend, if I’m going to the padded room, you aren’t far away.

        • Beep

          No argument here, I admit I’m fucking bonkers. Not to drag out tired adages about an insane world, but who exactly is perfectly sane (except Homer Simpson, he has a certificate).

          It’s funny, I made the exact same argument many times about video game emulation years ago, because it involved piracy in order to play the games…my response was similar: As long as the people I was arguing with were to admit that they were breaking the law, regardless of the outcome, I could care less. I just hate hypocrisy. Admit you’re an asshole, and we’re good.

          So, though I haven’t downloaded the pictures, I’m an immoral asshole in many other ways, and I know it.

          We good?

        • Sin

          I’d argue that Suda 51 and Tim Schafer are completely sane, if only for knowing how to overpower insanity and make it their bitch.

          It’s funny; game emulation was one of my big annoyances a few years ago too. I’ve mellowed on that one a bit, if only because Ive come to see whatever small harm that comes from piracy as an easily fixable problem, as well as the willingness of good pirates to give good reasons for what they did.

          I acknowledge freely that I can be an asshole, and that I’m usually motivated by greed. I’m not always honest with myself about it, but I always appreciate it when someone gives me a swift kick in the ass and points out what I’m doing.

          Just in case it’s seemed different at any time during this debate, I’d like to say that I do respect you, and all the points you’ve made are quite valid. It’s good to have a good opponent, who can keep my arguments on track. So yes, we’re absolutely good.

    • Ven

      I’m sure you should have used better encryption on your wireless network before letting that guy next door send 200 terabytes of kiddie porn to Al Queda. But you should be off the hook cause that guy stole your connection right? Right?

  • Gust

    http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=73152

    Photos DMCA (Copyright) Complaint to Google

  • Erik van Maanen
  • jakethesnake

    ok, now I want to see these pictures !!!!!!

  • anon
  • Cynic

    I would have thought that hiring a publicist would have been somewhat cheaper than going to court.

  • Anonymous

    Instead of paying lawers to take down the pics, she might have done better paying someone to do The Alien on the blackmailer.

  • Not

    So you google her name, and in the google results at the bottom is says “In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 2 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.”. The link to ChillingEffects lists the reasons why the results are removed and there is a list of torrents (all named to include the text “XXX.Pictures”). Isn’t that more likely to draw attention to her plight, and provide the necessary links to potential downloaders?

  • Pheadrus0110

    Probably royal family,
    stupid nobles.

  • Jakethesnake

    The new Paris Hilton has arrived ….

  • aaa
  • aaa

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:355ca6cbe2779a303a073cb60c97a9ee8024c8cb&dn=Sexy.Rich.Chick.Mobile.Phone.Found.By.IRC.Nerdz.XXX.Pictures.From.It.WMV-Prettyboo

  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    Anybody remember Libby Hoeller? :)

    • Not

      hahah YES!!

  • aaa
  • Rekrul

    On the one hand, I think people should be free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt others. On the other hand, it’s pretty stupid to leave such things on your phone and then not take extra care that you don’t lose said phone with the photos on it.

    She should have also been smart enough to know that taking legal action would draw even more attention to the photos, which were really nothing special.

    In the past, I’ve found junk computers that still had the hard drives in them, and I’ve found homemade porn on two of them. One just had a few topless photos, but the other had 7-8 short videos of a girl screwing and blowing her boyfriend. I’ve never posted them though. Not because I’m morally above that, but mainly because I have no idea how old the girls are.

    • Anonymous

      If you have compromising photos of yourself: naked, having sex, taking drugs, or doing anything else inappropriate YOU’RE AN IDIOT. There is no defense. Eventually they will end up all over the Internet, and you will have no recourse nor should you. If you want to maintain some privacy don’t take compromising pictures of yourself or let others do so. Geesh.

      • Ven

        If you don’t properly secure your wireless network, YOU’RE AN IDIOT. If you can’t control what your children or other adults in the house do on your internet YOU’RE AN IDIOT.

  • LOL

    Seabrook Crisps heiress & newly-appointed director…

    lulzy ^_^

  • Anon

    Pictures look pre-2009, which is when she joined the family business

  • Tboy

    seedin this shit till the cows come home

  • Zincbunnies

    I bet she’s fat and ugly, otherwise she would be a celebrity by now.

    • Tboy

      Actually shes HOT as hell!!

      • anon

        Pics or I won’t believe.

        • Tboy

          Sexy.Rich.Chick.Mobile.Phone.Found.By.IRC.Nerdz.XXX.Pictures.From.It.WMV-Prettyboo

          Pulled from TPB

  • jakethesnake

    links to pix are in above comments

  • james

    no rapidshare link?

    • Tboy

      This site is called TORRENTFREAK. I assume being here you use torrents. Any search engine will give you plenty of links to the torrent you seek.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        If you look a bit harder you’ll find articles about rapid, mega and cyberlockers. I assume you file share if you are here but that might not be true either ;)

  • Gcook104

    Isn’t this a losing cause. Because even if someone does seed it and get arrested wouldn’t the defense be i neither knew that this pictures were 1) hers and 2) illegal, seeing that no one can be told the name of the girl and the files how would any seeder know what pictures are illegal

  • Hagarthe

    Daft wee silly lassie, and the fathers a dick as well, the cats out the bag and it aint going back in.
    This streisand effect is spot on, I think the internet and human pique will draw more attention to her foo pah.

  • Samantha Brook Chrispin

    Streisand effect FTW, torrent activity has trippled in the last 45 minutes on tpb alone.

  • http://profiles.google.com/artfulldragon TL Dragon

    For crissake, all that damn money and she is too farking stupid to keep her titty pics somewhere safe. I wanted to feel bad for her when I started this article, but alas, stupid people piss me off.

    The pics were out, you can’t UN distribute them so you STFU. If somebody says “HEY!! I saw your titties on BT!!!” You simply say.

    *ahem*

    “Nope. Not me. Some asshole photoshopped my head on a porn star to be funny. Ha. Ha.”

    Problem solved, or as solved as it’s gunna get.

    This isn’t really a BT issue though. It’s an asshole issue. She was a stupid asshole for taking naked pics on a celly. Phone thief was a sorry asshole who should be kicked repeatedly in the balls (it’s “sharing is caring” shit for brains not “take people’s shit and sell it for hooker money”). The seeders are just plain old everyday assholes lookin’ to fap. I suspect 95% of them couldn’t pick her out of a 4 person line-up if 2 of the choices were men and the third some sort of Russian farm animal.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Oi, I’ll be seeding while I download and I’m not an asshole =( lmao or maybe I am who knows =/

      But I agree with pretty much the rest of your comment.

      (darn, was that a Russian farm animal?!?!?!?!?).

  • Adf

    she’s gone from blonde to brunette…slutty to corporate on her website =)

  • LOLZ-SAMBROOKCRISPIN

    Nice …shes part of the crisp industry haha. Bet she eats that all the time and then hits the gym in their million pound mansion

  • Dia

    The Lay’s bag of crisps in the picture is quite amusing.

  • Gae

    Perhaps she is forgetting the court order has no meaning outside of the UK (or at best Europe) and that once it is discovered who she is then the Streisand effect will take over.
    Discovering who she is will most likely just be a matter of time as all it will take is 1 pissed off person receiving a cease and desist letter to post the details of the torrent anonymously.

    • puddipuddi

      it’s already out dude, check the comments above you.

      • puddipuddi

        Or not, looks like they got removed lol. I guess torrent freak doesn’t have the same freedoms as /b/

        • puddipuddi

          Sorry about that. I wasn’t trying to taking a shot at you guys, but I guess I kinda did. It’s perfectly understandable that you guys wanna stay legit, but I would imagine that if SOPA goes through torrentfreak will be gone anyway :(

          Not to mention /b/ will def be the first to go, so lets enjoy our short lived freedom and let the Streisand Effect carry on over there shall we?

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Wait, did she actually copyright those pics?!?!?!?!?!???!?!

        • Ven

          @Ninja

          Unless a photographer exists with her signature on a release form, she is the one to whom the law grants the copyright. She doesn’t have to get it registered because there is nobody to challenge her claim. At the same time, the plight of her situation is enough in a court of law without the need of a registered copyright.

  • The Entity

    I love the Internet. I wonder how many extra people have now seen these compared to if she’d just kept her mouth shut. I like how the torrent even includes all the none porn stuff as well.

    Someone should have warned her that hundreds of none UK people will now seed this like crazy, not to mention upload to bitlocker and porn sites.

    • Helixhamin5

      I have. To tanned…
      Sadly, only got out of curiosity.

      The what effect you say?

  • http://TorrentFreak.com Enigmax (Andy)

    Just a quick reminder for those tempted – TF never allows links to torrents or links to *any kind* of copyright material posted elsewhere, so please refrain from posting any and we won’t have to remove them. Thanks

  • John Doe

    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4483272/Sexy.Rich.Chick.Mobile.Phone.Found.By.IRC.Nerdz.xxx.pictures.Fro

    Aannd, Google is your friend.

    Seriously, Took me less then a minute.

  • GODLiKE

    Oh well, could have been just another set of teen photos on the intarwebz…

    Nice way to train my Google skills tho…

  • http://www.facebook.com/bohdan.cisar Bohdan Cisar
  • jakethesnake

    I wonder how many people who work at her family owned business has taken a peak at these pictures ….. a guess would be about 90%

  • stickywicket101

    Her family is wealthy, she has a smoking hot body and she is in-touch with her sexuality. Why is this a problem? Plenty of women would dream of being in her shoes.

    Sure she goofed by not securing the files (leaving pics on cell phone then loosing the phone), but she has nothing to be ashamed of. She is awesome IMHO.

    The jpg files are dated. August 9, 2007 between midnight and 3:00 AM are just glorious. So what … she was masturbating and took pics of herself. This was a private moment for her that inadvertently went public. Oops. Sh*t happens.

    Yet now it’s gone viral, and all at the “low cost” of the UK litigation. She is clearly claiming copyright of the pics (and I agree with her). Yet now she could easily sell those rights for 1,000,000 euros to playboy if she wanted to. AND make another $1,000,000 for a new spread. Rich girl Playboy spread would sell like insanity!

    Could this be the best form of “advertising” possible? Take a lemon and make lemonade? Heck, I hope she cashes in big time by selling the copyright to a big-boy publisher like Playboy. That would be sooo right.

    PS … I think I’m in Love.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      LoL, I can see what you did there… The Playboy idea could be glorious, never thought of it. I’m cheering on her too. Hope she can get over this and just laugh of it in the future.

      Depending on her personality I might fall in love too hahaha

  • Th

    samantha brooke crispin?
    That’s old news… everyone already knows about her

    • Beep

      If they’re not pursuing this as a copyright violation, but instead as a human rights violation, then aren’t the lawyers filing the DMCA takedown requests perjuring themselves?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Amak1131 Samuel Anderson

    Love how the takedown request serves as a nice list of where to download from. Anywho, it seems the phone was left on a train… I’m sorry, but if I had nudes of myself on my phone, I’d be a LOT more vigilant.

  • HATEME

    whether it was wrong or right, she was the one who…
    A. Thought it was a good idea
    B. Found somebody with a camera
    C. Discussed possible poses
    D. Took off her clothes
    E. Stood in front of the camera
    F. Took MULTIPLE pictures that were of a explicit nature
    G. Looked at the pictures she just took
    H. Transferred these pictures to her phone
    I. Showed a few of her close friends
    J. Lost her phone on the train

    if even at one point during that long process, she thought,”Hey, What if they these pictures leaked….I’m not just some college girl that might not want my kids to find these, I’m a public figure….What if I want to run my daddy’s company some day.” CLICK, the photos would have been deleted and this would never have happened.

    Personal feelings aside, I have seen the pictures and damn….she is smokin hot, then and even more now.
    I have seen the top of the mountain…..and it is good.

    • Stickywicket101

      Wrong. She was alone (and just horney) and took pics of herself. She was just being human. And I for one think the pics are GREAT. Raw human behavior. Cool.

      I agree with all the legal effort, futile as it is. She messed up with the data, that’s all. It happens to the best of us. My point is … OMG … She is so freakin HOT!

      PS … You can see her cam (phone) reflection in some of the pics. She was all by herself that night. Alone and playful. OMG!

      I’ve done a “time” analysis of the file time stamps. She was a very busy beaver between midnight and 3:00 AM.

      GOD I love Women! Walking Works of Art!

      Samantha FTW!

      • No

        She was clearly NOT alone. No way she could stick her fingers up herself AND hold the camera several metres away. I guess you havnt seen the photos….

        • Rekrul

          Camera phones don’t have timers?

  • http://toast3d.myopenid.com/ Toas Ted
  • Xander Delores

    yeah, can’t link to copyrighted material, but linking to chillingeffects is OK and they link to the copyrighted material

    although i think she should have gone to police for the blackmailing, but trying to remvoe the pics off the net through legal means is impossible and will only make more ppl aware of it, this is somewhat old story but i’m sure 99% of the ppl here have never heard of it, i for one am piqued with interest and am gonna go dl those pics :}

  • /b/loody flies

    were all seeding it like crazy now!! shes one hot bitch too…..

  • jakethesnake

    she will probably get a reality tv show soon, she will be famous

  • Anon

    The irony is that with ONLY the information in the public domain at the instigation of her lawyers, it was easy, within a couple of minutes, to find the images posted on the internet (not using p2p).

  • Her

    @Th – hahah I thought this article must have been about her… wow that’s REALLY old news… if there hadn’t been this court case I probably would have never thought of those photos again. Very reminiscent of a futurama episode lol

  • ÜberFap 2000

    Applying stunning powers of observation, I mat have uncovered he real reason why the Seabrook Crisp Queen went batshit over these pictures:

    There’s a bag of LAY’S on the floor!!!

    ROTFL!!!

    • jakethesnake

      great observation, bet u r right about that

  • Ball Juggler

    Yes! i have them.. the girl is ok.. so so.. article definitely piqued my interest

    • Beep

      You hear that, Enigmax?? You’re making Samantha CRY!! It’s all your fault! You monster!

      • Ball Juggler

        LOL!

  • guest

    Let the Streisand effect now take place.

  • Xasd

    from http://sambrookchrispin.com/

    “Sam Brook-Chrispin has the ability and the confidence to trust her instincts and make the right decisions quickly. She’s also extremely creative, and that, coupled with her inherited passion and knowledge of the industry …..”

    now thats true!

    • Ball Juggler

      Is that the same girl but with the hair dyed?

    • /b/loody flies

      from http://sambrookchrispin.com/

      lol,view the page through goggles….pmsl.

      inb4 “whats goggles?”

  • ocultimus

    She took them, she lost her phone…

    Notice the “she”‘s?

    Her. Freaking. Fault.

    Profit.

    • Resin

      I’m sorry to tell you, but a bit of your post got cut off. Here, let me finish it for you.

      She took them, she lost her phone… Someone else posted the pictures online. Many more continue to see those people.

      Notice the “other people”

      Mostly. Their. Freaking. Fault.

      ??????

      • Resin

        I meant “seed those pictures” instead of “see those people”. Parody fails if you don’t proofread.

  • ffffffffff

    found her pics… nothing too special

  • Jumbo

    TF readers going crazy over pics showing a pair of titties? When will you anti-social computer nerds come out of your closet and get a girlfriend? There’s a whole world out there to explore and a bright star in the sky called the sun in case you didn’t know.

    • Ball Juggler

      It wasn’t over “just a pair of titties” .
      It was about a court telling me what i can or cannot seed…
      I’m still seeding them if you want them. : )

      • Ball Juggler

        Hey WTF! my other comment was deleted?

      • Hophead

        I would love to see

    • The Entity

      Oh such a tired stereotype. I have downloaded the pics and I’m married (and my wife has seen them too) and I leave the house every day.

      Her mistake wasn’t taking the pictures and getting them leaked, and I sympathise if she was blackmailed over it but her mistake is trying to censor the Internet, which is never acceptable.

      I don’t give a damn about the pictures as such (I’ve seen better) I just care that people like her don’t succeed in blocking content because they think what they want is more important than keeping the Internet open.

      So I will make sure as many people as possible see these pictures.

      • Prick

        She never asked for blocking the internet you tool. She only wanted her own stuff removed from the net.

        • The Entity

          Which is the thin end of the wedge. It starts with the blocking of one torrent and spirals from there. If she didn’t want her stuff on the Internet she should have looked after it better.

  • ndmushroom

    Do we have any idea on whether TPB itself was contacted about this? I’m pretty sure the TPB crew would be a lot more effective in taking this content down, and a lot more sensitive to the cause of the girl than any UK court. TF, do we know anything about this?

    • |)-~

      @ndmushroom

      Have you ever visited TPB’s Legal Threats link on the site’s main page? They don’t take content down for anyone. Besides, someone else would just repost it. Furthermore, if you visit Chilling Effects there are 30+ alternate sties listed in the complaint to download the same material. Finally, while this story is new to some, the leak occurred long ago. The proverbial train has long since left the station.

  • Guest

    As nasty as this case is, it does serve the wider, long term purpose of informing the public as to the dangers of the internet and storing photos of yourself.

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  • Rekrul

    I can’t believe that people are still posting comments about wanting to see the photos. While the links to the torrents have been removed, the links to Chilling Effects, with a copy of the DMCA complaint are still there, and the complaint has a full 36 links to the torrent in question. I’m sorry, but if you aren’t smart enough to try clicking on the links posted in the comments, you don’t deserve to see the photos.

    Sometimes I weep for the future of the human race…

  • Jsjjsjs

    Why did Torrent Freak remove the prior posted comment that stated that a bag of Lays potato chips is seen laying on the floor in some of the pictures ????? This was a great observation……. with her being the queen of Crispins or whatever

    • Guest

      Seabrook is the brand name of the crisps… and its funny to leave a bag of the competitors product under your nightstand. Perhaps that is what all the fuss is really about in the first place :D

  • Samantha Brook Chrispin

    http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=73152

    everything else you might want to know about this is here… :)

    Samantha Brook Chrispin

  • http://joshesforchange.wordpress.com/ Josh C

    I have no idea how to react to this article. On one hand, I think this is a total disgusting and offensive use of bittorent that is probably gonna be used by some retard anti-piracy group to try and make bittorent seem like some horrid thing that only kiddy porn lovers use, but on the other, this girl should have known the risks of keeping pictures like those on her phone. I’m not saying she deserved all of this to happen to her (my heart goes out to this girl; this must have been a terrible experience and I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone), but I hope she learned something from this experience, and never has to go through something like it again.

    • /b/loody flies

      hey josh c can u hear that noise? thats me playing the worlds smallest violin……

  • Bastard

    I cant believe none of you anarchists has posted a link.
    And everyone missed the name.

    Check sumo.
    1949167

    In the future, everyone is famous for fifteen minutes. :)

    • Guest

      They did post links. The mods removed them. Torrentfreak doesn’t allow links to copyrighted content.

    • /b/loody flies

      we all posted links,tf removed them .i cant believe u missed them u dumb fuvk!!
      no,YOU missed her name by being 24hrs late on a retread……pmsl

      im seeding the pics like a champ!!

  • Anonymous Coward

    Her name is Samantha Badcock

    • Anonymous Coward

      No it’s not….

  • /b/loody flies

    im starting to wonder if the take-down notice was aimed more at her naked and masturbating in a room with a packet of COMPETITORS crisps on the ground now that she is a DIRECTOR of her daddys crisp company…..

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