BitTorrent Spammers Chosen to Spy On French Pirates
Written by Ernesto on January 27, 2010The French anti-piracy outfit Trident Media Guard has been chosen by the entertainment industry to track and report illegal downloaders in France. The company, known globally for its pollution of BitTorrent and other file-sharing networks with fake data, will assist in the recently passed Hadopi three-strikes law.
Starting in a few months, French file-sharers are set to be tracked and reported to the authorities in an attempt to lower the country’s piracy rate.
Under the new Hadopi law, alleged copyright infringers will be reported to a judge once they have received three warnings. The judge will then review the case and hand down any one of a range of penalties, from fines through to disconnecting the Internet connection of the infringer.
Trident Media Guard, the investigative company that will be responsible for tracking down alleged infringers, was presented to the public today. Interestingly enough this private company was not appointed by the government but by the entertainment industries, including the major record labels and movie studios.
Among file-sharers Trident Media Guard (TMG) is not a new name. In fact, thousands if not millions of people have run into them already as they are known to hinder illegal downloads by spreading fake data. For their ‘revolutionary’ anti-P2P technology they have submitted a patent application which is currently under review.
Aside from polluting file-sharing networks, the company will now also be responsible for tracking and reporting pirates to the authorities. TMG has the capacity to record up to 25,000 infringements a day, and according to initial estimates 10,000 offenders a day are expected to receive a warning.
TMG’s tracking technology will cover a wide range of file-sharing networks, with four of them being monitored as a priority. There is little doubt that BitTorrent, eDonkey and Gnutella will be the major targets, but according to TMG it is also possible to monitor Rapidshare, newsgroups and streaming services.
How they will be able to monitor these non-P2P services remains a mystery for now, but it suggests some form of privacy invasion. Unlike with BitTorrent, a third party can’t simply see what a user is downloading as they do when they actively monitor a user’s P2P connections.
In the UK the ISP Virgin Media is trialling a technique which involves Deep Packet Inspection to monitor the level of illicit file-sharing across a percentage of its customer base.
Because systems like this are believed to breach the privacy of individual Internet users, the European Commission has been asked to review its legality.
Thus far no details have been published on the data gathering techniques of TMG, but considering the enormous opposition against the Hadopi law there is little doubt that their every move will be closely watched.
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110 Responses
Sick…
I guess if you work long enough with the mafiaa they will throw a few crumbs to their lapdogs…
sit…
stand…
stayyyyyy..
good doggy. Now come bl*w me.
We have to use encryptet VPN!
“Aside from polluting file-sharing networks, the company will now also be responsible for tracking and reporting pirates to the authorities. TMG has the capacity to record up to 25,000 infringements a day, and according to initial estimates 10,000 offenders a day are expected to receive a warning.”
THEY DID NOT HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO ??
HOW ABOUT HELPING 10.000 25.000 EARTHQUAKE VICTIMS IN HAWAII ??
NO EH ??
Yes, Hawaii is in ruins, it’s all over the news….jesus :/
There was an earthquake in Hawaii?
Earthquake in Hawaii? Oh dear. I better call up my niece and make sure she’s okay!
I bet they think pirates started the earthquake… so they are not entitled to help pirates
Hopefully the rein of terror will be re-established in France and starts beheading the mafiaa
you mean haiti
the more they squeeze the better we’ll get hehehe!
Maybe people will finally learn to use a VPN.
earthquake in Hawaii? gonna get my board and surf the sunami
Corporate parasites!
Let’s kill them all!
I am equiped. I have peer Guardian, VPN and TOR. And
I am sharing! sharing Sharing all my stuff!
Haha!
I’ve decided that:
1) I will teach everyone I know how to use a VPN,
2) Ask everyone I know to vote for their country’s Pirate Party and to help out if they can,
3) Not miss any opportunities to sign petitions opposing this shite.
I am equipped. I have peer Guardian, VPN and TOR. And
I am sharing! sharing Sharing all my stuff!
Haha!
Wow.. I am actually impressed that someone confused haiti with hawaii.
I will setup a web site telling people how to:
Copy a CD,
copy a DVD,
deploy perguardian,
Install Mute, Winny, and Ant.
I provide download for tools to do all of this and safe shortcut.
I will spread mirror copies of this everywhere in the world and keep adding copies all the time.
Catch me if you can and if you DARE!
>monitor Rapidshare, newsgroups and streaming services.
I’d actually like to see them do this, you know why? That’s HTTP traffic, and to moniter it you would need to use HTTP tracking which is illegal, if we found them doing that we could use the law against them and shut their assess down, also, proxies ftw.
Obviously it hastens for the Pirate Party in every country to put extra effort into getting rid of this kind of sh*t.
Stop whining here and go out and make a difference! Internet needs you!
The debate here has finally wound all the way down to “Corporate parasites, Let’s kill them all.” while government and industry prepares to make life difficult for file infringers and seriously painful when those same infringers finally start getting caught and brought to justice.
Both sides will do what they want, one side legal, one side illegal, and the chips just fall wherever they may. Of course, nobody on the legal side actually risks anything, only the illegal side is at risk just as it is and should be IRL. Fair trade off, I think. Let’s get this party started.
I am trolling! trolling trolling!
Nobody is reading my stuff anymore!
I am a troll this is my job. I am paid for doing this.
I am trolling! trolling trolling!
Each time I write trolling I get $1
Trolling, trolling trolling trolling!
“The debate here has finally wound all the way down to. . .”
What debate?
trolllling! trooooolllllling troooooollllling! troooooollllling!
I like to lick poo.
“trolllling!”
Ha! this debate!
Smart.
Ok.
I like to lick poo.
“I like to lick poo.”
Do you mean that you like to get stuff from the entertainment industry?
Lol @ reasoned mind.
He still refuses to see whats right in front of him, after all the comments he must have surely read, he still chooses to ignore what is plainly common sense.
As far as filesharing goes, i have nothing to loose and everything to gain….it costs more to lock someone in prison for a year, than i earn in a year =/
Im reminded of that kewl morpheus quote “these people (Reasoned Mind) are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”
Rules always change, you can either fight them and get left behind….or join us ;)
Heck, TMG can sue MediaDefender and other competitors if they use the same technology (or must use it to do it’s job).
I think we found here a new monopoly-company.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
ACTA LISBON MPAA RIAA IFPI
The most successful war seldom pays for its losses.
WATCH THIS OUTRAGE UNFOLD……
@17 No, i just like to lick poo
…and this is what im working with…
:S
Lol! dont worry, we dont all lick poo =P
Thomas Jefferson…what a guy! A TRUE role model =)
Rather than using a VPN, just use your neighbors unprotected wireless connection.
@Jay
Nah. I like my neighbours.
@tigger
aw, shucks :P
time to make ipredator rich on clients dont you think french people? go get it! its worth it. specially for what Europeans earn 5 dollars shouldn’t be much however you see it.
“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.”
We will not remain silent.
We are getting back the guillotine from the museum.
One of my friends is even preparing to maintain a collection of corporate heads.
The French Head quarter of Vivendi Universal will be use as a Bastille.
Did any one beside me read the patent application these guys put together? What did ya’ll think of that? It looks like it’s designed to eliminate torrent based on removing things from the tracker-server itself. Is that what it’s aimed at? And, doesn’t using magnet links with DHT and PEX make it ineffective?
@ReasonedMind:
“Both sides will do what they want, one side legal, one side illegal, and the chips just fall wherever they may.”
Indeed; it just so happens that one side is allowed to make the laws, and the other is not. This does not make one side more or less “right” or “good” than the other. Just more or less legal. It’s all fairly arbitrary.
@ Reasoned Mind
“Of course, nobody on the legal side actually risks anything, only the illegal side is at risk just as it is and should be IRL.”
You’re seriously a colossal idiot if you think it’s okay for ordinary people, infringing or not, to have all their Internet traffic monitored.
You’re an even bigger idiot if you don’t think DPI is a “risk” for the public.
“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” is horseshit.
“Trident Media Guard” are
parasite scumbag assholes…period
These pigs deserve the guillotine,
drag these corrupt scum to the
scaffold
still Trolling, trolling trolling trolling!
$4! Thanks!
Trolling. Yes! Another $1!
@16 “I am equipped. I have peer Guardian, VPN and TOR. And”
Peer guardian does nothing for you and Tor is crap speed. VPN is ok if it is real fast.
They can monitor all they want, because I don’t use copyright any more. I’m sharing copyleft stuff that gives me those rights in writing how are they gonna stop me now?
I use Miro for TV, youtube, Jamendo and Magnatune.
I do not go to concerts, buy CD’s or DVD’s or merch from people who don’t put a big COPYLEFT sign that gives me the right to copy, use and distribute for personal use and I will be glad to go to court over it.
Law or no law there is no way someone will make me pay anything by force or coercion.
My rights are more important too me than the profits those people make and I will sacrifice everything to maintain my rights and unfortunately for the entertainment industry they are not a basic need and there are good enough alternatives to their products.
Librivox for me is great, jamendo is fantastic! and came from no other place than France, coincidence?
Of course not, the more they push the more legal alternatives will sprung up and for music the time is ripe to change there is nothing the music industry offers that cannot be found legally.
@ 20 Jan 27, 2010 at 01:40 by Reasoned Mind
That’s why TMG will be monitored. To keep the illegal side from prevailing. You can’t just pick and choose the laws you follow. If the laws are not enforced they become meaningless. If you don’t like the laws, change them. Whining here about them won’t change them. A few people may agree with someone’s viewpoint, but until representatives are written, votes are cast, etc. the laws will never change. Breaking a thousand laws to catch someone breaking one will be deemed unacceptable. Sure they may get away with it a few times but they will be stopped. You are just going to have to get over the fact. OJ proved it is not wise to take the law into your own hands, and MAFIAA will find out as well. Your advocating of law breaking makes you no better than those you call ‘pirates’. And by that I mean the counterfeiting and selling ‘pirate’, not the filesharer.
F’ing stupid frenchies. I hope this system works really well and they kick 2/3 of the country off the internet and they go back to the stone age. CAN YOU SAY LE RETARED?
Well good luck to them on that. xD
Hey, Rboy, not everyone on this earth are english, fker. Compri? Un peu de respect?
@ Reasoned Mind
Will you stop spamming, go torrenting, and get a life?
Geez, every post I look at on TF is infected by your trolling. Enough with this? Go spam somewhere else.
BIG DEAL!!!
Nothing that VPN shouldn’t be able to take care of.
45 Jan 27, 2010 at 06:19 by Goug
@16 “I am equipped. I have peer Guardian, VPN and TOR. And”
Peer guardian will block known bad ip addresses and it does help. Tor is slow but ok for browsing the web. VPN is best option if it is real fast also. I use vpn atw on one machine along with peerblock & peerblock on the other machine no vpn both dl/up.
@20 Reasoned Mind
["Both sides will do what they want, one side legal, one side illegal, and the chips just fall wherever they may. Of course, nobody on the legal side actually risks anything, only the illegal side is at risk just as it is and should be IRL. Fair trade off, I think. Let’s get this party started."]
First of all….The “legal side”, being the corporations, actually break the law in order to uphold it by doing things like violating privacy. Second of all you dumb fuck, they risk a whole hell of a lot with what they pay their lawyers to sue somebody with no evidence. If they lose, they are out thousands, or even tens of thousands of dollars. And last but not least you donkey raping shit eater industry cronie……how the hell is it a fair trade off to violate a person’s privacy, take them to court with little to no evidence, have the court fine them for hundreds of thousands of dollars, then go after them for the rest of their lives for the money? Jaimie Thomas shared, like 24 songs or something, and I think she is a single mother but I don’t remember, she got charged with, what? 1.92 million dollars for 24 fucking songs? YOU THINK THAT IS FAIR? fucking prick. get the fuck off torrent freak you corporate clown.
Oh come one! How many people have computers in France? Maybe couple hundred? If they turn off all their connections their ISP will go out of business… Go Figure…
here’s something you don’t know,here in France all the royalties earned by foreign artists played on the radio ect is put in a pool and then shared amongst French artists
vpn all the way Also hey look @ this
http://hiphopwired.com/2010/01/26/t-i-sued-for-copyright-infringement/
T.I. Sued For Copyright Infringement
Fresh out of jail for weapons charges and living in a halfway house, T.I. is seeing his name brought up in court documents once again.
The King of the South is being sued for his 2006 Grammy Award winning track “What You Know.”
http://www.sharevirus.com
we have to stand up for our liberty now!!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/01/26/acta-copyright-secret-discussions.html
do it!!
Talk about adding ‘fuel’ to companies who sell anonymity services!
http://www.relakks.com
http://www.ipredator.com
https://www.ipredator.se/
http://hide-my-torrent.com/
@56 Jan 27, 2010 at 11:05 by Cujo
Of course all the meetings happen behind closed doors. Most of the time the meetings happen on the mega-yachts of the record company executives.
It’s a practice that serves them well, so why would they change their tactics? The certainly haven’t evolved their business models.
TOR is great for downloading MP3 files though. I uploaded and downloaded entire album via TOR.
Ok it is a bit slower but it is still fine. Beside if enough people share their files using TOR it is still worth it. After all people were using Napster on dial up connection in the early days of P2P.
VPNS are cheap! You can not stop us!
Want to bet?
@45 (Goug)…
“Peer guardian does nothing for you”
PeerGuardian was already blocking Digiprotect at the beginning of last year. Although many in the UK were hit with letters from ACS:Law solicitors, most PeerGuardian users remained off the radar in most cases.
There have also been papers produced by researchers in at least 2 major US universities that statistically prove PeerGuardian has a substantial effect on keeping your p2p activity optimized by blocking out bad peers.
You nonchalantley say PG does nothing, yet independent research states the opposite and I personally know about the research done to identify and track bad nodes. It’s not guesswork, it’s based on analysis of traffic, nodes and the behavior of those nodes.
It’s not quite the placebo some people seem to think it is.
WE should get together some powerful lawyers on our side and file stupid frivilous lawsuits against these mafiaa idiots. Kinda setup a Anti Goon squad and see how they like it. They can spend millions paying their Ahole attorneys to fail miserably…
@ Reasoned Mind
I like You. Don’t ever stop. You make it more interesting and put mindless lunacy on display.
Just notice that piracy is a poor competition. The one owning money usually influences law the most. Still piracy is able to force record labels services evolution to ways more adequate to our generation. Making some jobs obsolete but creating other. Every business needs to consider risks. So as You say chips just fall wherever they may.
As for traffic inspection – my life is my art – my way of doing things is not to be traded or invaded without my permission, no artist wish to be monitored this close. Everybody might be a sinner as well as You might be one. It’s not what they might see but for what they will see.
They might see piracy, but they will see our lives.
If You cross the street on a red light and nobody can see it, no harm is done, police lost it’s profit. Does it mean that they should monitor Your every step and accidently know much about You? Forbid You (or someone wearing Your shoes) to walk if You cross the street 3 times on a red light? Yet should they have more authority than record labels.
If record labels monitor all the traffic then I wish that they and artists they represent were as closely monitored too. I wonder how creative/profitable some artists would be having their every step monitored and displayed to fans. Just do to them what You intend to do to everyone.
Our privacy is more sensible than any copyright.
RM forgot to mention that he is and his MAFIAA bosses are the illegal side :-).
Ontopic:
If ISP’s are not involved in the monitoring then there is no way they could monitor newsgroups,ftp or rapidshare (only physical access to cables would be an option). Also for rapidshare a lot of files are password encrypted to protect them from being deleted which also prevents the usefullness of deep packet inspection.
Its seems a trend that private parties now get to play police whenever they believe someone owes them money. I know why they chose them. If it were up to an independent firm they might actually present evidence with a disclaimer that the evidence may not be accure.
All trackers should now start injecting ALL French IP’s as sources connected to the trackers (like TPB did).
Will anybody buy more cds/dvs/brds if nobody can download? I don’t think so, this shitty anticonstitutional law will fail miserably or we’ll all move to more secure/anonymous systems!
Anyone recommend a good and reliable VPN for the French people?
for torrents, i am using some neighbors open wifi, and a free vpn on top (itshidden). for rapidshare and alike, the vpn is not needed.
one more thing, for those using open wifis:
you should still use a vpn when downloading torrents because it protects you neighbor and when he feels safe, he will not secure his wifi…
usenet and oneclick-hosting is a different thing – they are quite safe for downloading atm
:)
http://www.linkdeo.com vpn is fastest i have seen and used so far.
sry site is http://www.linkdeo.com
* Protection against your ISP
* Full anonymity by hiding your real IP
* Secure 128bit-key encrypted connection
http://www.linkideo.com must have i in there to work
as stated before…you anti-p2p “people” (i use that term VERY loosely) think that we don`t know anything @ the software that you use to gather your “data”??
i`d think again if i were you…
tf feel free to delete this comment and link in 69 & 68 and merge comment. i key was left out as pointed out and link is now fixed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8480699.stm
Thanks to this law, french people (like me) gonna pay 15€/3months to IPREDATOR to get a VPN to do what we want.
Thanks to this law, police and other authority in France won’t be able to access to our network without the help of a judge.
Cool.
TorrentFreak should look at the law project “LOPSI” in France. It better than HADOPI because it’s “against” Child Pornography website. Very funny project.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8481790.stm
Disgusting bastards, its a violation of privacy and human rights!!
i liek to foot-slide-kicke people instead of fighting liek a mahne :D. ime also a poor poor deluded shille…
disclaimer:dont put “fail” or else YOU fail for taking this seriously. although rm is still a lowly troll.’
where i live, dpi is illegal to use, lest its for criminal activity.
filesharing is breaking ‘civil’ law and not criminal law.
encrypt and your isp can never say they looked at your movies being downed.
they will…
but they cant say so…
What the bbc are doing is testing the publics angst on the subject.
remember when the bbc were in the back of the police car that arrested
Allan Ellis?
IN THE BACK OF THE CAR!!!!!!!!!
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
they are a .gov mouthpiece propaganda mill.
heres what should be reported on the 6 o clock spews
‘Today, SonyBMG arrested a man at his house, because they paid politicians and the chief of police to do so.
The bbc were in the back of the car luckily enough,by chance, to catch the drama unfolding…’
i want to know what politician made the call.
i want to know who at the bbc sent the crew to meet the police, pre-arrest.
and i want to know one person who thinks thats all ok.
i am yet to find that person…..
All this mindless “You can’t stop us!” bs. So boring and childish, so off the mark.
Daring industry to try to stop you from taking their products free isn’t very smart. Daring government to enhance enforcement is REALLY not smart. You sound like 11 year olds here.
DPI isn’t smart, either. And no one wants a monitored network.
So the bottom line is piracy will force a blanket inescapable internet tax, and a big tax too, based upon preexisting revenue streams in all the different digital businesses. All entertainment and digital product will feel like “free” but the costs to get on the internet will be mindboggling. lol. And then the industries have you by the balls. Because NOW YOU PAY THEM just to get online. And they are SET.
The industries will be permanent, books, games, movies and music, everything digital whether you want to pay for them all or not, and there is nothing you can do to escape them. And the courts will agree, better this than suing people and people with no children pay school taxes, right? People with no car pay road taxes, too. It will all prove fully legal.
And best of all, YOU will look like the cheap infringers driving this new solution to paying for the products you’ve been stealing and they will look like the reasonable diplomats willing to accept a tax for their efforts. lol
And the government doesn’t have to monitor and makes HUGE taxes ON THE TAX itself!! WIN all around.
And you think this is better than freedom of choice to purchase or not. huh?
Pirates are morons. lol
Seriously. The tax is coming and your cheapass foolishness be responsible for it.
You entertain me.
@Reasoned Mind
Your post, #79, has been analyzed and determined to be
[] misleading
[x] FUD
[x] trolling
on the basis of the fact that you have (check all that apply)
[] compared the downloading of a digital file with the theft of a physical object
[x] used misleading terms such as “piracy,” “stealing” or “theft” to describe copyright infringement
[] vastly exaggerated financial losses to rights holders due to file sharing
[] stated that file sharing harms honest artists by depriving them of needed revenue
[] said that without copyright, there would be no incentive to create or innovate
[] implied or explicitly stated that artists should have absolute, permanent control over their creative works
[x] supported unjust punishments for copyright infringement that do not fit the offense
[x] supported unjust, expensive and invasive anti-infringement laws and measures
[x] defended the entertainment industries and/or excused an immoral or illegal action of theirs
[x] implicitly or explicitly attacked fair use, right of first sale, and/or the public domain
and you have done this despite the fact that (check all that apply)
[x] effectively enforcing copyright on the Internet is difficult, time-consuming and expensive
[x] changing laws to allow easy, effective enforcement of copyright on the Internet would breach peoples’ privacy and fair use rights
[x] overly broad and restrictive copyright has been demonstrated to hinder creativity and innovation
[x] copyright infringement is no more theft than trespassing
[] the modern implementation of intellectual property rights favors large corporations over individuals
[x] just because something is illegal does not mean it’s wrong
[] the financial losses to file sharing have been challenged and no solid evidence has appeared to support the claims of massive losses
[] any financial losses from file sharing are incurred primarily by publishers and distributors as opposed to artists and creators
[x] Internet Service Providers have no desire to spend millions of dollars to police their networks and drive away customers
[] one download of a copyrighted work does not equal one lost sale
[] artists may in fact benefit from file sharing as it gives greater exposure which leads to greater sales and a large fanbase
[] it has been repeatedly demonstrated that people who download will also buy more
[] some industries, such as the motion picture industry, are bringing in record profits despite file sharing
[x] due to regional lockout and the entertainment industries’ resistance to change, some people have no choice but to illegally download content
[] a large amount of free and legal content exists online, proving that people will create even if there’s little or no financial incentive
[x] you have failed to cite any sources for your arguments, particularly those dependent on data.
In conclusion, I advise you to:
[] review the fundamental intent of intellectual property law
[] review intellectual property law
[] actually read the article you commented on
[x] actually respond to the arguments that others make against you
[x] apply basic ethics and morality, along with common sense, to your future posts
[x] sodomize yourself with a retractable baton.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Another reason to switch to HTTPS for downloads.
@MAFIAA Troll
I dare the industry to try to stop me from taking their products free. I dare the government to enhance enforcement. I double dog dare the sons of bitches.
The industry and the government have both abjectly failed to thwart P2P filesharing for over a DECADE, and now all of a sudden I’m supposed to start shaking in my boots? Why?
Because that little dictator Sarkozy undemocratically forced HADOPI down France’s throat? HADOPI is an unenforceable trainwreck, a toothless joke. So that can’t be it.
Oh, I see. I’m supposed to be afraid of some kind of impending make-believe internet tax, and I’m also supposed to pretend that it would be the fault of filesharers instead of the greedy politicians who drafted it into law at the behest of the industry and its nice juicy bribes.
Let me think… Should I listen to your frantic doomsday propaganda, which has a track record of being wrong 100% of the time? Should I be afraid of the internet tax bogeyman?
Hmm. No.
@MAFIAA Troll
“You entertain me.”
Hehehe. I picture you typing that while choking back tears. The sad thing is that’s probably not too far off the mark, right, shill-boy?
@MAFIAA Troll
“YOU will look like the cheap infringers driving this new solution to paying for the products you’ve been stealing”
Whenever you lie that filesharing is stealing, I’m just going to copy and paste this from now on:
Theft is when you take someone’s property away from them without their consent. Filesharing is when you virtually replicate a piece of property and then take only the replicated copy, which fails completely to qualify as theft for the obvious reason that nobody has had their property taken away from them, virtual or otherwise.
“If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”
is really horseshit…using this logic we should put toilets in public places so everybody can watch you take a dump…I mean…if you got nothing to hide then whats the problem right?
The problem is that Big Business and Government have problem of saying “Do As I Say Not As I Do” This is not about fairness, it’s about keeping the cycle of greed and corruption going between Big Business and Government. The governments of the world have been corrupted by Big Business so that they can keep the elite very rich and powerful.
As we have seen with all the “show” trials being conducted around the world that they don’t care if it’s fair or not. We are back to the might makes right mentality as society is dragged backwards on the social evolution scale.
The government should be afraid of its people, not the people of their government. But you seem to have forgotten that. Pretty soon the masses will rise and remind you that your labels, with their expensive lawyers, their bought-and-paid-for politicians, their media circus, their Nazi elitist way of life and this whole disgustingly corrupt system will all disappear. We are the people and we shall tear you down from your thrones and through you in the sewers with the rest of the shit were you belong.
What he said. ^^^
Greed is bad for you.
Sarkozy will soon be demoted by the parliament to cover their one ass,
after they realize in what shit they got themselves into.
Damn you UMP. You won’t get away!
“I dare the industry to try to stop me from taking their products free. I dare the government to enhance enforcement. I double dog dare the sons of bitches.”
lmao!
You sound like the desperate Jimmy Cagney in WHITE HEAT, playing psychotic killer Cody Jarrett………”Come and get me copper!!”
You’ve gotta feel pity for anyone who thinks legal authorities are wrong for enforcing infringement law. With so many productive paths in life, this sad poster just sounds like such a lost fool. So he can steal some music now and then. But it IS mildly entertaining. lol
Too right RM
It’s funny how Pirates scream “Privacy” or internet rightswhen their illegal / unlawful activities are tracked, whilst not giving a toss about anyone elses rights or privacy
RIPPING OFF ARTISTS & RECORD PEODUCERS
RIPPING OFF THEIR NEIGHBOURS
NO RESPECT FOR ANYONE
“Don’t question my authority or put me in the dock. ‘Cause I’m not, maybe not”
Hail to the Thief / Radiohead
Obvious Bigots/Hypocrites are Obvious
@MAFIAA Troll
“You sound like the desperate Jimmy Cagney in WHITE HEAT, playing psychotic killer Cody Jarrett………”Come and get me copper!!””
You sound like Patrick Cargill in Hammer Into Anvil, playing the increasingly unhinged Number Two.
@MAFIAA Troll
“With so many productive paths in life,”
You chose to become a paid whore for the content industry, which is on the losing end of a struggle that was over more than 10 years ago.
@MAFIAA Troll
“So he can steal some music now and then.”
Automated response:
Theft is when you take someone’s property away from them without their consent. Filesharing is when you virtually replicate a piece of property and then take only the replicated copy, which fails completely to qualify as theft for the obvious reason that nobody has had their property taken away from them, virtual or otherwise.
@ .@93
“Too right RM”
Internet Debate Tip #258: When the only person agreeing with you is yourself under a another screen name, it’s time to give up.
@ 84 Jan 27, 2010 at 16:55 by Anonymous: I rofl’d xD
I think some basic encryption will nullify any attempt to monitor non-p2p services such as rabbidshare – considering there is any way to do that.
Also, VPNs will probably explode in the near future. As some1 said here they are affordable and somewhat easy to use with some basic instructions.
And any positive MAFIAA and merry friends image – if there is any still standing – will go down the sewers…
And they’ll keep doing that till they lose their costumers support completely and for good. Then they’ll be doomed. And this is a matter of time as far as I can see.
Reasoned Mind fails to understand what’s going on and he even turns blind eyes and deaf ears to what is being discussed and said here right under his nose. Pitiful. He could do a wonderful job to his bosses at MAFIAA by taking our thoughts and ideas to enrich the services they provide but he chose to echo what MAFIAA says and thinks.
AOL bet their cash on dial-up and the illusion it’d never go away. GM bet their cash on the illusion ppl would be always stupid and always buy gas guzzling vehicles. Media industries bet their money on the illusion that physical media will rule forever and that ppl should buy b4 trying….
cheers
Monitoring Rapidshare ?
Unless they’re using DPI, I don’t see how they can do that…
Do you have a source for this Rapidshare monitoring info ???
@97
They don’t need DPI just need a court order in Germany to get to the server’s log, that by law in Europe must retain for 6 months detailed logs about who used.
The German government could even make the administrators silent just like they did with the JAP(Java Anon Proxy)
lmao!
trolllling!
You sound like. . .
trooooolllllling
You’ve gotta feel. . .
trooooooolllllling!
this sad poster. . .
troooooooollllllling!
So he can steal. . .
troooooooooolllllllling!
lol. . .
trooooooooooollllllllllling!
The only thing the entertainment industry of parasites have to fear is death herself. “I think I hear a train” (Peter Gabriel.)
Not trolling this time and not jocking.
I agree with myself. . . Heu I mean with Reasoned Mind!
It is not me I swear!
by Rboy
F’ing stupid frenchies. I hope this system works really well and they kick 2/3 of the country off the internet and they go back to the stone age. CAN YOU SAY LE RETARED?
Rboy,YOU ARE the retard.and on top of that a stupid racist that does not deserve to express himself.you should be locked up.I wish that YOU get kicked out from the internet.you’re a danger to society and democracy.
FACT!!
lmao!
trooooooooooollllllllllling!
$1. Thanks!
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@103
For some really weird reason, they don’t care about the antipirate trolls, despite the disruption they cause.
the government here(france)has said that it is not possible for them to monitor megaupload or rapidshare so that’s the easiest way not to get caught,also use a good ipblocker like ipfilter.dat or peerblock
@Anonymous
Rapidshare moved to Swiss ;-)
Yes, I am ashamed of my country.
The actual copyright laws are scientifically and philosophically wrong, hence why they are fading away into oblivion. NATURAL SELECTION. Culture evolves.
@RM
“So the bottom line is piracy will force a blanket inescapable internet tax, and a big tax too, based upon preexisting revenue streams in all the different digital businesses.”
Right. And the climate change will force a blanket inescapable oil tax we gonna pay to for saudi arab&co to make up for their loss in oil sales. And a big tax too, based on their current revenue stream.
Because everybody knows when a buiseness model fails tax payers all over the world will have to compensate and foot the bill.
The big labels skills are printing and distributing CDs. They never created music. And noone needs them anymore.
Let them RIP.
I have been using for a while now for ALL my communications TuVPN VPN Service. I think I will never access again the Net from France … definitely VPN services have a bright future … wondering which we will be the first to setup a VPN server in the moon so we can finally relax …
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