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Cox Disconnects Alleged Pirates from the Internet

The anti-piracy lobby has been putting pressure on ISPs to act against customers who download copyright infringing content. Thus far, most ISPs have simply forwarded the takedown requests they receive, but Cox Communications is taking it one step further, by disconnecting alleged copyright infringers.

cox logoWith 3.5 million Internet subscribers, Cox Communications is one of the larger ISPs in the US. Like all the other Internet providers, Cox receives numerous copyright related takedown requests from anti-piracy organizations.

However, it’s how they handle these requests that’s quite unique, and disturbing to say the least. Instead of sending their customer an email, notifying that they have received a DMCA takedown request on their behalf, Cox disables their Internet connection. Here is a quote from the warning page customers get to see when their Internet connection is cut off (screenshot below the article).

Under the DMCA, we have the responsibility to temporarily disable your Internet access, until such time as you take the necessary steps to remove the infringing files and to prevent further distribution of copyrighted material.

There are a couple of things wrong with this notification. First of all, and most importantly, the DMCA doesn’t oblige Cox to disable a customer’s Internet access at all. They have to notify their customer of the alleged infringement, but the measures they actually take are clearly out of proportion, and definitely not in the best interest of their customers.

Indeed, it has already led to a lot of frustration with Cox customers. One of them told TorrentFreak that he has been struggling for two days to regain his Internet access. The customer in question was instructed to call a phone number in order to resolve the issue, but it was impossible to get though for most of the day. When he finally got hold of someone via the regular customer service, he was simply told that he should call the same number he was given before.

After being on hold for more than an hour he eventually got through. The Cox customer told us what happened next: “He [Cox employee] said that he is going to allow me to have the Internet enabled for 1 hour while I ‘call my router company so they can walk me through securing my wireless network.’ If I don’t call back in the next hour, he will turn the Internet off again.”

First-time offenders will eventually get their Internet access reinstated, but not without being warned that they might lose it permanently if they receive two more takedown requests. “If it happens three times, I will be referred to their headquarters in Atlanta,” the Cox customer told us.

We contacted Cox’s customer support to verify this, and we were told that there is indeed a three strikes policy in place. When a Cox subscriber receives three takedown requests, their Internet access will be cut off entirely. Interestingly, this is the same policy that the European Parliament voted against last week, because it “restricts the rights and freedoms of Internet users.”

It turns out that Cox doesn’t need legislation to implement a three-strikes policy though. “Cox does in fact have a 3 strikes policy with regards to violations of our acceptable use policy for Internet service. If a customer’s service gets suspended 3 times for the same type of violation the customer risks having their Internet service terminated,” Cox’s customer support told TorrentFreak.

It is of course up to Cox how they handle alleged violations of their acceptable use policy. However, the problem lies in the fact that they act upon accusations made by the MPAA, RIAA and other anti-piracy organizations who employ evidence gathering methods that are shoddy, to say the least. In addition, there is still no law that requires a person to secure their wireless network and there are even routers that enable people to share their connection with outsiders.

We think that Cox clearly overstepped the mark here. Customers might not make as much noise as the lawyers of the entertainment industry, but eventually, they are the ones who bring in the money. Cox Communication currently uses the slogan “Your friend in the digital age.” Some friend…

Cox’s Warning Screen (click to enlarge)

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  • TonInter

    Not again…

  • /Me

    I think i´m going to write does fuckers an email…or 50,000! :-)

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    Makes me sick to my stomach.

    Bastards, just bloody bastards.

    Since its in the US where everyone gets sued for ANYTHING (guilty or not) I hope a lot of their clients are going to sue their asses off for false disconnections.

    Another thing totally American is “class action” lawsuits, hopefully someone will get one of these going as well.

    COX… morons even spelled the name wrong, because it really is all COCK… or in this case COCKS.

    Yuck, still feeling sick… and dirty in a way that a shower just wont cure.

    CJ
    http://www.eZee.se

  • J.

    Far be it from me to impede someone from testing the theory “there is no such thing as bad advertising”

    It’s hard to make Comcast look good but hey, if you must.

    Money saved in bandwidth will never add up to the lost customers as a result of stories like this.

    J.

  • anp

    cocks

  • anonymous

    i had this happen to me with a different ISP. told me to ‘remove all offending files and run an anti-virus program’ and then they’d reinstate my internet. 100% sure it was on the basis of bandwidth use alone (which was very meager compared to most bittorrenters) and not on any letter received from the riaa.

  • Trocster

    Wow Cox Communications really is rubbish.

    I wonder how they are going to counter the (bad) word of mouth this is going to generate.

  • thesaint396

    Man I would be so pissed, I pay them for a service not a moral compass, its like the playboy channel turning off my service because I cheated on my wife (not that I have, in case she is reading this)I would swop isp’s so damn quick tell em where to stick their warning!!

  • wow

    Bye bye cox, you just made a huge mistake.

    Cant wait to see how much money they loose!

    Its only a matter of time until my connection starts doing it (Time Warner Road Runner).

    We need to spoof these kinds of requests, make it so confusing that the ISP’s wont know what to do.. are they going to disconnect there entire user base? hahaha

    We need to wreck havoc on there incredibly shoddy system, start hoppin on cox customers wireless and download random shit.. the chaos will be amazing.

  • Crazydog

    I remember when this happened to me!

    Started using Peer Guardian after, and no problems since (a couple years). :P

  • Crazydog

    Also, like my comment implies, they have been doing this for a few years. It’s nothing relatively new.

  • Email this

    http://www.cox.com/support/hr/emailchat/emailus.asp

    contact page where you can voice your complaint.

    just fill in fake information. You dont have to fill in the current cox customer boxes.

  • tits

    Boycott time…

  • Anonymous

    Everybody should get off of Cox.

    Anyways, how are they able to check if the files are deleted anyways?

    Roze
    http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/

  • Anonymous

    Good thing I stopped torrenting, I found other ways to get what I want anyway. Cox Cable is making a mistake though, people who’ve NEVER file shared are probably going to get these and they’ll be like, “What the heck?!” And then there will no doubt be phishing scams out the wazoo. Thankfully, I don’t file share, and I don’t have Cox. *Relief*

  • Anonymous

    Wow.. Cox comms really does suck Cocks!!

  • Anon

    Great reporting! This type of stuff is incredible.

  • LeetKo

    Seriously, what ISP would want to lose the costumers?

  • Anonymous

    This will probably be used by people who simply dislike someone. Send a DMCA complaint and I don’t think they will care if it is valid or not.

  • coxSucker

    This has been going on for awhile….got my first net suspension ~2years ago.

  • .

    The only solution is not to use P2P whatsoever — even to share LEGAL material. A lot of people get accused of sharing copyrighted material identified by nothing more than a key-word search.

    Does anyone believe that all the 100 thousand+ videos on YouTube that Viacom claimed were infringing were actually watched and verified by a human?

    No, time and again it’s been proven that DMCA notices cast the widest possible net, regardless of how many innocent people they accuse in the process.

    While it makes international news whenever a major company like YouTube gets hit with 100,000 takedowns in one whack, when DMCA notices are spread over 100,000 separate internet customers (many of them innocent of infringement accusation), this massive attack against ordinary people goes largely unreported.

    http://techdirt.com/articles/20070202/164759.shtml

  • Anonymous

    I love their stereotyped, borderline racist commercials.

  • Zack

    ok i dont wanna seem like a noob here

    but they arnt doing any packet inspection right?

    i run peerguardian and take the proper precautions when using bittorrent so i assume im pretty good to go… maybe ill take a look at the terms of service

  • Sam I Am

    This is actually a clever stealth move on Cox’s part. They know that pirates use 100 times more bandwidth than 95% of their other customers. (1) They may lose a few pirates, that’s true, but the money they save not having to upgrade the backbone so soon (2) is a million times more than the small amount of lost customer revenue, and the other 95% of their non-infringing customers (3) get a huge boost in bandwidth and the added speed as a bonus. And the other ISP’s don’t want the bandwidth hogging pirates, either. It’s a win-win-win. The future is getting closer. Think about it.

  • Anonymous

    I have Cox, we just got our third strike recently and they simply turned our internet back on for the third time :P

  • Anonymous

    This is how they do it: they do not monitor your activities in any way. Once they receive a notice from RIAA or whatever, they just cut you off. You have to call a number, promise to delete the file and never do it again and then they turn it back on. That’s it, Cox has legal reason compelling them to do this.

  • enter8

    These bastards need to be sued.

  • DSan

    Ok … I am sure there is something illegal hidden within all of this. I feel a lawsuit coming on.

    That being said.

    COX Communications has just lost me as a customer. Say goodbye to another $300.00/month subscriber, COX.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t this predictable? Despite the EU, and the sufferings of the RIAA, and the victories of the Icelandic torrent site, the general trend will be against P2P — unless, of course, people start to do things about what is going on.

  • h

    @24 Exactly. ISPs don’t make much money off of bandwidth hoggin’ pirates. They’d much rather see them go off to plague someone else’s network. This also has the side-benefit of reducing their liability in the event that the *IAAs are successful in passing laws that make ISPs liable for copyright infringement.

    Sorry kids, but your business ain’t worth as much as you think. You are as desirable to ISPs as hippie squatters were to landowners.

    Honestly, the worst thing you could do to Cox is *not* leave. Be the guest that never goes home and eats everything in the fridge.

  • Anonymous

    Everybody should get off of Cox simple

  • DSan

    @ 30: True enough but we can cause them such a PR nightmare. I just submitted this story to The Consumerist. I think everyone should do the same. DIGG it up, too.

  • Anonymous

    We need to see more of this. Thieving thieves thievery must be curtailed.

    I wonder how many losers will kill themselves after their avenue to cartoon porn has been taken away…hopefully a lot.

  • Anonymous

    How about everyone tries to make as much noise about this AND stays on and sucks their bandwidth dry?

  • coxfails

    http://www.cox.com/support/hr/emailchat/emailus.asp

    contact page where you can voice your complaint.

    BOMBARD THESE PRICKS WITH FAIL!

    just enter fake shit but be sure to tell them how they FAIL!

  • Anonymous

    Well let’s hope that we as consumers speak out against this like we did against the DRM in Spore. Cancel your connections and send your money to a competitor. If you won’t do that, at least refuse to pay for service on the days you were disconnected. I’m sure they don’t prorate voluntarily.

  • Anonymous

    @30
    Not only do people need to get off of Cox, but also actively speak out against Cox. Perhaps there may also be something illegal about this.

    Roze
    http://www.28chan.org/fs/

  • Anonymous

    I just sent this as feedback on their contact page ( http://www.cox.com/support/hr/emailchat/emailus.asp ):

    Customer Inquiry: Your new policy of disconnecting accused filesharers is unacceptable. You are risking setting a precedent that might be explored by other companies and providers, and this is likely to provide you with negative outcry by customers and non-customers alike. DMCA notifications are not based on solid evidence by the recording companies, and for you to act on them when they are more often than not based on biased and non-factual “evidence” is unacceptable. I hope your customers speak out against this and send their money to your competitors. In a capitalist economy such as what we have, it is our duty as consumers to put companies like you, that go against our wishes as subscribers, solidly out of business. I hope you choose to reverse this ill-conceived plan to discriminate and aggravate your paying subscribers based on the interests of unscrupulous lobby groups.

  • cocks

    37 Oct 01, 2008 at 02:08 by Anonymous

    +1^^

    http://www.cox.com/support/hr/emailchat/emailus.asp

    Voice out peeps..

  • baka pinkuu

    @24

    Goodie for you. In a few months, maybe they’ll give you a nickel raise for that post.

    Now go back to sucking Cox.

  • Miko

    They shut mine off once and i told them if i was paying for it they better turn it back on or i would cancle my cable and my internet since i have direct tv to. They had it back on within 10 min! Started using peerguardian and private torrent sites no problems in 3 years!

  • ha

    The so called 95th percentile is a myth. They would not just lode 5 percent of their customers. If 60+% of all internet traffic is p2p, are we to blieve that that 60+% comes from only 5% of the people?

    Even if it is ony 5%, those are likely to be those people on the most expensive packages, not your average ‘email and surf’ bottom tier customer. I know with my ISP (in the UK), that 5% equates to around 250,000 people spending over £4.5 million ($9 million) every month for internet access, thats £54 million($108 million} per year in lost profits. Now weight that against losses reported by the movie, music and games industry at around £10 million annualy, who’s the real loser? Why would an ISP be willing to lose 10x the ammount of money they are supposed to be saving the entertainment industry? Its retarded.

  • Brian S

    Why do all these companies do this? People are not going to pay for games or music or videos if they cant get them for free. Crytek claimed it lost 2 BILLION sales. If it actually lost that many, then it would have lost $100 Billion dollars. I don’t know if any 10 games combined in history have ever made that much.

    Brian Scanlon
    Ferrari12508
    Admin @ TheCodeCube.net

  • Anon

    Is it possible for anyone to “request” someone’s internet be turned off? If so, there should be a search for current RIAA employees and their own IP addresses haha.

  • baka pinkuu

    @43

    Now that would be funny. Hurray for the age of the anonymous informer!

    (Wait a minute, twenty years ago that and the KGB were supposed to be two of the biggest horrors we were supposed to fear from Communism…)

  • Dingo_RG

    “They shut mine off once and i told them if i was paying for it they better turn it back on or i would cancle my cable and my internet since i have direct tv to. They had it back on within 10 min!”

    ———————

    That’s the best thing to do… If you can’t use the service which you paid, simply you cancel the contract… The ISP are not doing a favor for providing to you an internet service; you paid for that, and if the ISP doesn’t fulfill with you, then; you have two options:

    1) Sueing.

    2) Cancelling the service and looking for a new ISP that doesn’t violate your fair rights to privacy and private property.

    When I read these things about ISPs doing illegal things as this, I feel lucky of that I don’t live in the USA; who has resulted to be one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

  • zigzag

    They definitely need to be taught a lesson so that other ISPs will think twice before even thinking to do the same: Boycott Cox now!

  • gay

    damnit i have cox. im gonna install peer guardian again…..

  • rhodeislander

    unfortunately, Cox has a total monopoly on Rhode Island and many surrounding areas, with no other high speed solutions really available (verizon FiOS is trying to get in there, but hasn’t really gotten a foothold yet). so boycotting would be difficult for me and most others in Rhode Island

    Also their customer service is absolutely terrible. if something is wrong with your cable, you better take the day off to deal with it, cuz you’re going to be on the phone for a while.

    that’s monopoly for you.

  • Bryan

    LOL @ #3

    So true!

  • Anonymous

    Where is the news about the recent PRO-IP Act which just passed Senate unanimously? Isn’t that also important?

  • Anonymous

    I was just cut off at 7PM Sept 30th. Ironic that this is now on the front page of digg??

    Maybe cox is pissed off about the bad PR… lol

  • Skyrine

    Peer guardian doesn’t help, I used it at all times and they shut mine off a couple months ago, and I don’t have COX

  • Anonymous

    They do not check to see if the file is removed, they just believe you.

    And its pretty clear: If your stupid enough to be caught 3 times maybe you aren’t smart enough to have internet.

    D’oh!

  • fcox

    completely illegal. but hey so are hacked cable modems, good thing we have those to protect us from corporations like cox who think they can do whatever they want.

  • wtfbbq

    OMGZ

    Hacked ModemZ!? is dat like spoofinz da ipz so they cant see uz?

    Sounds nifty!

    Emaiil me info at bbqpalace@gmail.com plz!

  • Lachtan

    Damn, these guys should fucking stop telling us what to do and what not to do with our interwebz, fuck those fucking fucks…

  • Justin

    They have been doing this for years. I had 2 of these a couple years ago. after your second warning you loose your internet. At least that was how it was then. But as others have stated they are in it for the money, and will not cut off anyone for 3 strikes.

    Usenet and NZBs are where its at now. You don’t have to share, though it does cost a little.

  • ethana2

    All my stuff is copyleft. If they tell me to delete my jamendo albums or intrepid dailies, they’re gonna get themselves an EARFULL.

  • Anonymous

    Good!

    I hate pirates.

  • BCK

    They also throttle like hell if you use a lot of bandwidth for P2P. I know I’ve seen connections drop while using P2P only for it to increase minutes after you’ve disconnected.

  • Sep

    I got banned by comcast and they told me exactly what the filenames were that I was shareing. And that was over a year ago if they have proof what you are shareing is not legal you don’t have a leg to stand on and be glad you just get banned could be alot worse.

  • coxlovesthecocck

    ROFL at 56, I bet you stick fat cox in your ass and put mayonnaise all over your fat face.

    On Topic:
    Yea this is old news, but I’m glad someone is finally speaking out about the atrocities that cox is committing. Ive had my interwebs cut off 3x now by cox(d1ck5) but I’ve moved on to other protocols other than p2p…

  • Anonymous

    Eventually it’s going to boil down to one major ISP. The one who doesn’t resort to devious methods an allows their customers to use the internet they pay for in a manner they choose. The same goes for companies that are trying to implement pay per usage policies for people who go over a set amount of bandwidth. Personally I will go without the internet before I allow a company to tell me how I can use the connection I pay for.

  • Anonymous

    @59
    Real-life is a good protocol, perhaps there can be held file-sharing conventions?

  • zombiedata

    this totally happened to me. Then I just started using Peer Guardian when I ran my torrents. Problem solved.

  • rawr

    Cox has done this for years acutally, however, it’s quite simple to get your internet reactivated.

    They give you a number to call, you say “hey i removed all forms of infringing media” and bam.. hello internet.

    In a nut shell, disabling your internet temporarily is a way of saying hey, we know your doing it and we got a notice from the RIAA/MPAA saying you have something of theres on your PC so cut it out.

    Personally id rather have my internet cut off temp rather than permanent.

    And to add to one of the comments i read, the reason how Cox caught (should say windows) found out this person had infringing material on the PC, could be via Windows Media Player, they (Microsoft) then forward the info to MPAA/RIAA whom than send a notice to Cox.

    Yet another reason, Linux needs to be the standard for OS’s :\

  • annoyance

    good for you Cox Communications. its about time someone takes the bull by the horns and does something about these bandwidth hogging thieves.

  • anon

    @63
    aww granny are we slowing down your aol mail?

  • Anonymous

    I had COX back in college. We used to get our internet shut off at least once a month due to my roommate DL so many damn torrentz. They would eventually bring it back online after about 30 min on the phone. Seeing that screenshot made me shiver haha.

  • blazer44

    I am a cox customer and have received two strikes while running Peer Guardian. My response was to upgrade my data plan to the highest they had (something I wanted anyways) and then contacted my surrounding neighbors and told them for $10 a month they could use my wireless. Basically I practically make money. I also started seeding common linux distros and various other legal stuff to keep my bandwith usage as high as possible. ;) If I ever want to download a tv show I now use private trackers. What is sad is that the the shows I was shut off for were HBO shows/movies I had missed. I pay cox for HBO and should be allowed to download and watch them if I miss them.

  • Anonymoose

    Customers can suck their Cox.

    They’re even getting them to line up to do it.

    Want out of line? Change your ISP.

  • Rintaro

    The only reason Cox is doing this is to cover their own ass. According to the DCMA, they are given ‘safe harbor’ if they do whatever they need to do to make the illegal content inaccessible from the web (see link provided in the article). They are merely trying to ensure that a bunch of criminal customers do not cause them damages.

    It is so funny to watch all you stupid jerk file thieves whining and moaning. You have no respect for the rights of content creators, can’t even bring yourselves to admit that authors/producers have ANY sort of rights, but you lose your internet service over it and you immediately start blubbering like fussy babies. It’s all fun and games until someone loses connectivity, huh? What a bunch of weak-minded, hypocritical cowards you are. Straighten up, fly right, and quit stealing.

  • Anonymous

    Changing ISP’s now

  • yogi

    Living in the U.S. in the 21st century is going to be hell.

  • Luis

    Easy, get another ISP.

  • Some facts

    Some isps rent 100mb servers with unlimited transfers for 80€/month.

    Which makes a MB worth around 0.0000025€
    Which makes 100TB of transfers worth
    100*1024*0.000025=0.25€ on that basis.

    So this “bandwidth hogging customer” bullshit is just laughable.

  • Michael Collins

    The only thing that will come out of overreaching actions such as this is the inevitable forcing of filesharing to go even more underground.

  • Some facts

    100 GB* sorry

  • Ralph

    I have already been caught by cox. I told them that my network is on a public wi-fi and they lift the ban. No strikes either.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck. Cox used to be my favorite ISP (well the only I’ve tried besides the SHIT that took over). Now THIS?!

  • s2pid

    Happy Days fellas.I guess this is judgment day.

  • A Cox Representative Told Me

    Do not use The Pirate Bay. It is the only Torrent sight monitored. I used to get Emails all the time concerning downloads. I stopped using the Pirate Bay as he suggested, and I haven’t recieved an email AT ALL. That was 5 months ago. I used to get around 1 a week.

  • torrentfreak really needs to learn the advantages of saving screenshots as .png instead of .jpg. That .jpg compression of text really looks amazing after saving the file a couple of times. Ditto with the elitetorrents screenshot that gets posted every now and again.

  • COX Doesn’t Monitor

    Cox doesn’t monitor what you do, RIAA and the MPAA(mostly) monitor p2p connections, get IP addresses, then contact YOUR ISP, in this case it would be Cox Communications. Cause has NO choice but to respond and send you an email, and after so many, they WILL shut down yoru internet, in which case you do as already stated, Call them to have it turned back on. COX protects it’s custormers by taking the brunt of the MPAA/RIAA. If not for COX you would be sued outright by RIAA and MPAA, Cox REFUSES to give out customer information to third parties.

  • bruce

    they have been doing this since at least 2003

  • BAGASS

    Cox will soon be customer-free and broke. And if they are really lucky, they will also be on the end of a nasty law suit or two for breach of contract.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like they should be notified that ALL of their customers are infringing. So they can turn their whole company off.

  • zeebart

    no BT here either, just newsgroups…the last time i even tried to BT the speeds were just way too slow (resetting of packets and such probably).

    but w/ newsgroups i get all of the bandwidth that i pay for from them w/ no problems…except, mind you, the d/l limit is 60 GB per month, so just keep an eye an that and you should be ok (for now)….

  • those coxuckers!!

    Did the same thing to me…Cox said HBO contacted them about my alleged copyright infringement. Unsecured Wifi biatches…but that’s what the neighbor gets for DL, from what I was told, a different uploading group.

  • AnarchyNow

    DMCA = clear infringment of 1st amendment so it’s anticonstitutonal and you can bet it won’t last long anymore

  • Anonymouse

    This isn’t really anything new, it’s all required under the current DMCA law

    http://www.comcast.com/terms/use/#dmca

  • IWishIwasCOXsoIcouldLEAVE

    @92

    Only if you willyfully misinterpret and read “what’s the most we can do” instead of “how much do we have to do”

  • AJ

    I am surprised that they can get away with this from a purely commercial point of view. Personally if I got my internet connection terminated for no better reason that an unproved allegation of wrong doing I would not spend hours waiting on call to the ISP. I would be busy arranging to take my buisness elsewhere.

  • Fimbulvetr

    Sucks

  • Tim Jones

    What a pathetic joke. I guess the DMCA has more power than God now. Why, cause they have deep pockets. Sad.

    Jiff
    http://www.privacy-center.ru.tc

  • nomasteryoda

    cox… if the name fits, wear it. I have had a strike before due to malware sharing shit on my connection. I was pissed, but what could I do… they are the only real broadband service around my area. sux but life is a biotch.

  • very

    the cox logo(http://www.cox.com/) says “(COX is )Your friend in the digital age” .

    what liars!!!!

  • Kevin Moody

    Wasn’t there a case just a couple weeks ago where the guy was found responsible to pay for all this copyright infringement because he deleted the files? Actually, he formatted his PC, but is the same thing.

    Sounds like this one could get pretty ugly.

  • dwpbike

    the choices in this town are att or cox. i have slow dsl, which gets really slow (5kbps) when i hit the “limit” (but uploads stay in 20kbps range). so how much choice do i have?

  • willsmith

    I’ve had Cox a long time, and this has always been the policy.

  • YelloCake

    After the first warning I would cancel the service and be quite clear that this specific policy is the reason for cancellation. The terms are unacceptable. You’ll see how quickly their policies change when their customers start leaving en masse.

  • kizinky4

    um… isnt it illegal. so we are mad because someone isnt letting us get away with something we shouldnt be doing.. Cox also helps track child pornography violater on the internet.. should they stop doing that too? Hope its not your kid they are after!

  • Anonymous

    americans may not be free anymore, but sure are brave to remain americans. Or maybe just to poor to GTFO

  • Unnamed

    Go suck cox, Cox.

  • baka pinkuu

    @104

    You saw how many people were left behind in New Orleans during Katrina because they didn’t have enough money to move just to another part of the state for a few days? The cost of changing countries permanently is a LOT higher than that. I know, I’ve looked into it.

  • baka pinkuu

    @103

    Nice analogy. Sharing files, in your mind, is as bad as sexually abusing children? I guess that fits, considering a lot more money gets spent on tracking down filesharers.

  • Wickchucker

    I had my Cox service shut Off. Rep told me it was only for dowloading torrents of HBO shows. I was dowloading The Wire. So, the best advice is use USENet to downalod HBO shows.

  • Anonymous

    What… a bunch…. of phags….

  • Anonymous

    AD HOMINEM alert!!!:

    ” 103 Oct 01, 2008 at 15:49 by kizinky4

    um… isnt it illegal. so we are mad because someone isnt letting us get away with something we shouldnt be doing.. Cox also helps track child pornography violater on the internet.. should they stop doing that too? Hope its not your kid they are after!

  • s3

    good step!

  • Erland

    This is nothing new. Cox has been doing this since they had broad band internet. I have had them since then.

    I have had my connection turned off twice.

    1st time I jumpped on DC++ and accidentally went into a public room and didn’t mean to. I was reported for having 2 programs.

    2nd time I was showing a friend how to use grims ping and instead of 192.168.0.x I scanned 193.168.0.x I noticed this about 10 seconds later and cut off the scan. I was turned off on Christmas day and not turned back on until after the holidays.

    Basically If I have your IP address and report it to cox with doctored log files I can get your internet cut off. They do not verify anything when someone reports that you have been doing bad on your connection.

    The 3 strikes policy is actually 3 strikes in a 6 month period but they don’t tell you this. My little brother has had 2 strikes in 3 months. One of his 4 room mates kept on downloading from limewire. All you have to do is call up the Internet customer support and ask why your internet is cut off. If they don’t know hang up and call again till you get an agent that is competent. Once you do just tell them you reset your router and forgot to password protect it. Give them a stupid my kid did it. That’s what I did and I didn’t even have kids at the time. lol.

    Cox really isn’t as bad as they are made out to be but they do, do as accused.

    Erland

    I showed them how to use torrents and they have yet to get another notice in the last year and a half.

  • Erland

    As an addition, Cox does not verify that you have removed the files. If they did it would be an illegal search of your property. Just tell them you will reformat your computer cause you were hacked.

    Cox does not do any packet sniffing. They do however watch customers who use a lot of bandwidth. At that point they start to packet sniff your connection trying to make sure your using it for legal reasons. If found otherwise then you will be disconnected.

    I have since moved onto Pirvate torrents and private ftps which use ImplicitSSL which means that the ISP cannot sniff my ftp traffic and I use ssl to connect to my torrent sites.

    Erland

  • omg

    fuckers…

  • hehe

    hehehe.. cox… i gave ur mum my cox…

  • Tommy Gunn

    Over a year ago I was on my “FINAL SUSPENSION” and had to call someone in Atlanta or some 404 number. Anyway the person I spoke to was actually very nice and understanding and said that they really hate having to shut customers off but apparently the “powers that be require them to”

  • ex-cox user

    Cox has done this crap for years. They disconnected me twice and then I disconnected them.

    First time it happened I came home to no working internet. A call to customer service took me through multiple people before someone said my account was flagged for security violation. So, got the number for that dept and called them. They said I was downloading some TV show from HBO which I’ve never even heard of. They also said they notified me by email. Funny, I never gave them my email address when I started service, so I asked them what addresss. Turns out they made an email account for me with my full name as address, and a password of “password” and it had been publicly available for 2 years that way. So I looked, and sure enough there was some BS notice. I told them this was all a lot of shit and they restored my internet access, but warned me of the three strikes. Nevermind that I didn’t do anything to get the first.

    Fast forward a half a year. I’m out of town on a business trip, and expect to be able to remote control my home machine as needed. It disappears off the internet a half week before I’m to return. Crashed? No, its Cox again, being cocksuckers. I get home to find the machine is running and the internet is cut off. Since the last time, I had set the Cox email account to forward to gmail, but no notice had ever come. So I called them and they said I was downloading some other HBO crap I’ve never heard of. I don’t have a cable nor a TV, so no surprise I have no idea what’s on. But maybe that’s why they hassle me, to try to make me buy cable TV from them. Anyway, they said they sent notice, but I told them they are full of shit because there is no email. I demanded they restore my access, and they did but warned me I only had one chance. I told them I need credit for denied service but they refuse they are responsible, even though they did this crap on their own.

    So, I talked to Qwest and found out that in the years since I moved in, not only did they wire the area for DSL, but they did so with FTTN which was going active in a month. I ordered the service, started at 7/1mb and then got bumped up to 12/1mb within a month, the same speed Cox offers but for $20/month less and not shared with my neighbors. As soon as I had everything going with Qwest, I canceled Cox. Cox then proceeded to bill me another month, so I called them, chewed them out on the phone, and demanded my money returned along with the partial amount for the month during which I canceled them. They said a refund takes 3-4 months, but would expedite mine so it would only be 6-8 weeks. I told them that if I didn’t have it in a month, they were going to court for their crocked business practices, and my check arrived in exactly 30 days.

    With all that done, I proceeded to disconnect them my way. I removed all the coax on the outside of my house, and their big ugly gray box, and threw it all in the trash. Then I grabbed the cable coming from the conduit in the ground, stretched it out as far as I could, and snipped it off, letting the free end snap back down the tube. If they want to serve this address again, which won’t happen until I move, they have to come excavate and make a new run from across the street at their expense. Cox, you can suck my cock! DISCONNECTED!

  • Billco

    The cost of bandwidth for heavy downloaders is often mentioned as a justification for disconnection, but I have to call into question the true costs involved.

    I am not an ISP, yet I can source plentiful (dedicated) bandwidth very cheaply at numerous datacenters around the world. If I can eat up a 100mbit line 24/7 for 140 euros (~$200) a month, that represents 35 terabytes both ways. 35 terabytes is a LOT of data and can support a staggering number of residential users, even pirates. I would figure anywhere between 100 and 500 users, depending on how quickly they can buy additional hard drives :) That means my cost per-user would be at most $2.00, down to $0.20 or less for moderate users.

    Why then, do these huge American networks charge a fortune for pathetic service ? Infrastructure, that’s why. They need to upgrade the lines going to people’s homes and offices. That’s the bottleneck! Downloading would not matter if those lazy gluttons had a fast network to support it all.

  • rip the system

    @88

    Exactly what I was just thinking…

    Make a list of the netblocks in use by Cox and filter out those that aren’t assigned to customers (easy). Go find some TV listings to find out what is on HBO (their favorite claimant) and make a form letter. Fire off thousands of emails to Cox claiming some random combo of shows for every IP address. Send several per address over a few days, differing shows and random number per address so it doesn’t all just look like one big spam. Send all these emails through whatever relays can be found, or maybe borrow a botnet to send them so they are very spread. Cox can either act on them all and cut everyone, guaranteeing some percentage of their customers will never come back, or they can change their policy. If by some chance they decide to ignore them, just keep sending the spoof takedowns as that’ll at least act to mask the real takedown from the *AA.

    Cox = 0wned
    Cox can go sux my cox.

  • Ed

    Are you people idiots??? Cox is not false disconnecting anyone. If someone is downloading copyrighted material with no authorization, then they deserve to lose their internet connection. Cox is trying to protect themselves because if the ISP doesn’t do anything to stop the infringer than the owner of the copyrighted material will go after the ISP. So if some moron can’t listen and continues to download illegal copyrighted material, then the ISP has every right to cutoff their service.

    Maybe I could put in terms any retard can understand. If I was coming into your home and stealing your property and you caught me and told me not to do it again or there would be consequences, but I did not listen and I stole from you again, would you not take some type of action to prevent it from happening again?

    The ISP has to protect themselves from thiefing morons who think just because it can be downloaded, it should be free.

  • Enshi

    They have been doing this for a year
    or more in vegas, my friend has gotten it taken down 3 times and
    each time he is told he has 2 more
    chances kick him. Its happened to me
    2 times I believe each time I just
    called the number and they turned it on, no mentions of 3 strikes or even if i deleted the file in question. Me and my friend have found that it usually happened when we forget to enable pg2, which seems to offer some help.

  • baka pinkuu

    If you get an email from the MAFIAA, take note of the originating IP in the header. Then make up some stationery for XYZ Productions and send Cox a DMCA notice referencing that address.

    See how they like getting Cox-blocked.

  • p2p4life

    cocks!

  • D

    They turned me off a couple years back for running a F-Serve on IRC. When i called the number i got right through and dude had a screenshot of my /dir.
    I have one thing to say to you p2p guys… L2Usenet

  • Mike

    CJ,
    You are an idiot. People cannot sue for “False disconnections”. Perhaps if you knew the law, you’d sound smarter. They may have a claim for nuisance or trespass to chattels but “false disconnection” would be a new one to me.

    They really do need intelligence tests before they allow people to post on these sites. Especially on specialized areas such as the law. If you want to be a legal analyst, go get your J.D.

  • hiya dragon

    stay the fuck off public trackers. you should be fine

  • Omaha

    When my internet was shut off for this last year they didn’t even have a warning page displayed. It wasn’t until I called that I found out why I was disconnected.

  • Anon
  • totally do it:

    > http://www.cox.com/support/hr/emailchat/emailus.asp
    > contact page where you can voice your complaint.
    > just fill in fake information. You dont have to fill in the current cox customer boxes.

    And after you submit it once you can resend it a few times.

  • notnew

    They have done something similar to this for a long time, 4-5 years ago I was using eMule to download a movie (before bittorrent was really popular, or at least before i knew much about it). Anyway, I noticed my internet was suddenly not working, I called tech support and they claimed I was downloading _____ and my account was suspended. I told them that I had wireless internet and that I had not downloaded anything and they re-activated it…

  • JiZZA

    I have Cox and their name reflects their company. They sent me 4 cease and decist letters to date and i just told them that they have no right to spy on me, well actually i just told em it was my insecure wireless network and nothing came of it. if u got a problem like that just tell them you have wireless and someone was prolly stealing your service, worked 4 times for me :P lol

  • Chuzpah

    I have been a Cox customer for years and have never heard of anyone that this is happened to. Then again I’m not surprised since Cox’s customer service generally sucks.

  • Screw Cox

    I wouldn’t waste my time emailing or calling these pricks. I would be at the courthouse the next day filing a lawsuit. Turning off your connection because some industry goon says you’re a pirate? Bull****! If you can’t prove it, I’ll make it cost them.

  • @129

    I wouldn’t do that if you’re doing it from a Cox connected computer. :P

  • King of Pirates

    Okay .. I’d take getting my internet shut off than getting sued anytime. Can’t we all just get along?

  • Christopher

    24 has got to be the STUPID post writer, if not a shill for the industry, that I have ever seen.

    Here is the truth, Mr. 24: most bandwidth today is taken up by BUSINESS USERS (proven by on weekends, my speeds got THROUGH THE FUCKING ROOF!).

    Secondly, pirates do NOT use 100 times more bandwidth than 95% of their customers.

    Third, this is setting them up for a lawsuit, period and done with. A big class action lawsuit as well…. which will bankrupt Cox.

  • Anonymous

    This is how COX treats their customers…

    http://i36.tinypic.com/1qmv81.jpg

    A friend online sent me this screenshot. He asks support a question and they just leave. Just another reason to hate these guys.

  • Anonymous

    cox go suck a cock and shut up. you start kicking paying customers off then you wont be in buisness too long as they will simply go to other isps who dont screw around

  • annoyance

    Cox rocks.

  • baka pinkuu

    To slightly paraphrase Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back…

    These guys REALLY love the Cox.

  • Anonamoose

    I just got a letter from my ISP saying I downloaded an 8 year old movie off TPB. They said if I don’t call them within 2 days they will disconnect my service. When I called they asked if I use a router and if its secure. Then they said if they get another letter my service will be disconnected without warning.

    What I don’t get is how I subscribe to their top tier package AND subscribe to all their cable channels AND phone. I spend $200/month and they just want to kick me to the curb because of some letter from some movie watchdogs. What interest does the ISP have in actually disconnecting their customers? :/

  • Johnmc

    I use to love Cox … No more cox for me!

  • maxxo

    can all us ordinary folk create our OWN ISP?
    sort of a PEOPLES ISP???

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been torrenting for about 6+ years. I’ve been on Cox the entire time. In those 6 years, I’ve kept my bandwidth near max most of the time. I have never once received a cease & desist notice nor has my connectivity been suspended…

    ProTip: Use private trackers.

  • shogan

    What about some discussion on the illegal downloads causing the warnings.

  • Anonymous

    Well i guess some of m neighbors will e disconected shortly….. lol

  • Anonymous

    You Got To Love WEP And Open Networks

  • Tom

    Qwest (phone provider) only warns you once. Your service gets cut off with no warning, you call tech support and are told to call a special security number during normal business hours, when you do you are forced to go through a middleman, (you never actually talk to this security division) to get your service turned back on. Your are then told that if it happens again they will disconnmect your service permanently. And you thought Cox was bad, and Qwest has poor internet connectivity.

  • done with cox?

    In Las Vegas, the broadband options are slim. You can use Cox, or you can use Embarq (Sprint residential). At least Cox’s customer serivce is responsive. Embarq is run by a bunch of stupid assholes who shouldn’t be allowed to operate a telco. There’s a few microwave outfits, and I guess you could use AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint wireless internet packages, but the speed levels suck and the prices for the microwave (canopy) systems are outrageous. Its too bad that the DSL is a closed service here.

  • Not that bad

    My experience recently was that after clicking the link that states the file has been removed and what not, I called up Cox in the morning and got connected with the automated technical helper. After running through the typical unplug everything and start them back up, the internet was working again. I sat there for a few seconds in shock that I did not need to even speak with anyone. Maybe it was just a fluke?

    Anyways, as bad as it is, it’s much better than the alternatives.

  • aikanae

    WHERE ARE PEOPLE FINDING ALL THESE OTHER ISP’S?

    That’s what I’d like to know. I live in the 5th largest city in the U.S. and … there is ONE cable provider – Cox. There is one DSL provider – Qwest and they have 1/10th the city covered.

    Cox is bad enough that DSL is a improvement. But there isn’t a shot that I will ever get DSL within the next 2 decades and by then something has improved. Half of my area uses satellite because Cox is so bad.

    Whoever eliminated competition for isp’s deserves to have dial up only for the rest of their natural days.

  • joe g

    @150

    I got the disconnect screen from the article today when I woke up and tried to get on the internet, and I did the same thing. Just went through the automatic menu for resolving connection problems, and after it reset my modem, then had me reboot my router and computer, it started working again.

    Never had to talk to anyone. Not sure if fixing this way avoids you getting a “strike” on your account, but I installed PeerGuardian2, and immediately started downloading tonight’s True Blood, which was the show that I got the notice for.

    Fuck em. :D

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  • Mr.Rasheed

    Had this happen to me. Had a button to click to acknowledge I had removed the material and my access would be reinstated. Clicked the button and it gave me the stupid number to call.

    I simply released IP from my router, renewed with a diff IP and was back in working order. No need to call the number.

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  • Kakujo

    They actually disconnected me twice for the same file, and the two times were separated by about a 2.5 month span! Weird, since I deleted the file back on the first disconnect…

    I was like, FTW!?

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