Download Torrents Anonymously with TorrentPrivacy

Written by Ernesto on August 12, 2008 

Privacy has always been a major concern for BitTorrent users and there are only a few ways to remain anonymous. By using a secure connection, as the new TorrentPrivacy tool offers, you can bypass almost every firewall or traffic shaping application, while making sure that nobody can see what you’re downloading.

torrent privacyThe TorrentPrivacy software has been developed so that anybody can use it, from BitTorrent novices through to experts. TorrentPrivacy uses a pre-configured version of v1.7.7 uTorrent, so there are no settings that have to be entered manually.

It pretty much works straight out of the box. First you have to chose a connection point - at the moment they have servers in Europe, USA, Canada. The closer the connection point is to your true location, the faster the speeds you will get from the service. Then, after you’ve chosen a connection point, just click connect and the program will connect to the server. The connection is made through the SSH protocol with 128bit encryption, which prevents traffic shaping and keeps your traffic ambiguous to prying eyes.

TorrentFreak briefly tested the application and it worked surprisingly well. People who are used to uTorrent wouldn’t notice any difference, besides the fact that they are using version 1.7.7 instead of 1.8 which was released earlier this week. The download speeds we got were decent as well, perhaps 5% less than normal, but that’s to be expected, and is acceptable for an SSH tunnel.

Alex, who runs Torrentreactor.net and TorrentPrivacy, told TorrentFreak: “We started the TorrentPrivacy project at the end of 2007. The idea was to give torrent users an anonymous BitTorrent service from a party they can trust. TorrentReactor has been online for approximately 4 years, and we believe that when people see that TorrentPrivacy uses ns1/ns2.torrentreactor.net as DNS servers, they won’t have any questions about a possible government setup of torrentprivacy.com.”

When we asked Alex about his motivation to start the project, he said that he wanted to make it as easy as possible for BitTorrent users to be anonymous, and get the RIAA and MPAA off their backs. “We don’t like the situation where two organizations from the USA believe they can rule the world. The Pirate Bay showed them that other countries have other laws and American laws don’t work outside of USA. We want to be the pain in their asses, and allow users to download what they want without fear of a sudden door knock.”

One of the possible downsides to the project is that you have to use their client, which is Windows only. For now there are no plans to offer SSH accounts separately, Alex told us. They do offer some other goodies though. As TorrentPrivacy only secures you while you’re using torrents, they have also developed a web proxy, listing 300 torrent sites which you can visit anonymously as an extra service.

Sounds great, right? Yes it does, but unfortunately the service is not free. TorrentPrivacy currently has three payment options. $2.95 per week, $9.95 per month and $99.95 per year. I guess it’s up to you whether you think it’s worth it or not.

Previously: Critical Vulnerability Discovered in uTorrent

Next: EA Choose BitTorrent for Warhammer Online Distribution

98 Responses

1 Aug 12, 2008 at 19:14 by #YLS#

So your saying this is a nice feature add on released in a version of uTorrent that’s just been exposed in a statment saying it’s open to exploit…

plus that sounds a sucky price, It’s about same cost for Xbox live and a web proxy doesn’t give that much value.

2 Aug 12, 2008 at 19:28 by Jasper van Weerd

The idea is worth a try.

3 Aug 12, 2008 at 19:32 by Anonymous

does it hide your ip?

4 Aug 12, 2008 at 19:44 by TheYunvus

Let me get this straight.
You have to PAY MONEY for a service that’s based on a bittorrent client that I have been telling people is insecure for YEARS.
IT’S OWNED BY BITTORRENT INC, PEOPLE!

This is just ten kinds of stupid.

All it really is in the end is an SSH tunnel, with a pre-set-up client.
I can set up my own damn client, thank you very much, and buy an SSH connection from a reputable person. And I sure as hell wouldn’t use utorrent.

TorrentFreak, seriously, think things through before you write articles on them.

5 Aug 12, 2008 at 19:54 by Anjow

For just a little bit more than that I’d rather get a seedbox.

6 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:03 by Anonymous

Dont touch it on what.cd unless you like disabled accounts

7 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:09 by Mr.Afghanistan

Not useful service, i never had a single warning from anti piracy.
downloading every day LoL

8 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:14 by Anonymous

does it hide your ip from peers?

9 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:21 by pmow

@8: Yes.

10 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:33 by pig

“TorrentFreak, seriously, think things through before you write articles on them.”

And give up on being dugg? Cmon dude, blog spam is more important. Afterdawn reported on this hours ago…shame.

11 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:35 by Still Downloading

Sounds like another company trying to make a profit of piracy.

12 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:35 by Anonymous

Its commercial = its useless.

Nice and professional of them not to have clean urls.

If they charged and they were a non-profit corp, then maybe we could believe some of the BS about wanting to help the community etc..

As its stands they are just another company exploiting people’s technological ignorance for a profit.

How long will they last anyway? If this isn’t what a court calls ‘facilitating piracy’ then what is?

13 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:52 by Darryl Roberts

I am not in the mood to read about stuff that I can get for free. Keep your advertisements and articles separate.

14 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:52 by Anonymous

To people saying this is bullshit:

What the hell? These guys are offering your cheap SSH tunnels through which to torrent. They’re not putting a price on it because they’re trying to make money off of you guys, it’s because the bandwidth involved is monumental! 500 users could easily reach 100TB+/month, and that kind of bandwidth doesn’t come cheap. Let’s also not forget they need the bandwidth to substain multiple users all downloading at close to their maximum speed.

If you don’t want to use their services, then don’t, but don’t put them down for offering anonymity for those who are willing to pay for the bandwidth.

If you prefer you can always rent your own dedicated server and proxy through it… But I can assure you it will cost you more than 10/month.

Disclaimer: I am in no way related to the parties involved, I am merely stating my point of view.

15 Aug 12, 2008 at 20:54 by @13

ditto. you took the words out of my…ummm…keyboard

16 Aug 12, 2008 at 21:00 by .

@14

“These guys are offering your cheap SSH tunnels through which to torrent. They’re not putting a price on it because they’re trying to make money off of you guys, it’s because the bandwidth involved is monumental!”

If they aren’t doing this to make themselves rich, then why is it just a run of the mill private company - what happens to the profits?

17 Aug 12, 2008 at 21:08 by Anonymous

the more of these services the better, it’s just a matter of time before they get shut down or become compromised..

18 Aug 12, 2008 at 21:26 by Anonymous

What needs to happen is a more decentralized network. You know, where there is a network where people download through the network, and anybody can choose to set up a machine as a “node,” and where anybody who downloads through it also becomes a “node.” Something like that.

19 Aug 12, 2008 at 21:41 by Anonymous

“For just a little bit more than that I’d rather get a seedbox.”

Seedboxes cost quite a bit more.

“What the hell? These guys are offering your cheap SSH tunnels through which to torrent. They’re not putting a price on it because they’re trying to make money off of you guys, it’s because the bandwidth involved is monumental! 500 users could easily reach 100TB+/month, and that kind of bandwidth doesn’t come cheap. Let’s also not forget they need the bandwidth to substain multiple users all downloading at close to their maximum speed.”

Yes, 10$ a month is quite low if the bandwidth is unlimited.

20 Aug 12, 2008 at 23:12 by brian

papertrail

21 Aug 12, 2008 at 23:13 by Wez

They have news from the future http://www.torrentprivacy.com/index.php?mod=news&id=20

22 Aug 12, 2008 at 23:33 by Anon

If your ip is hidden no one can connect to you.

23 Aug 12, 2008 at 23:40 by mustangx

This service is cheaper than what i currently pay for my VPN . Ty for the post Ernesto. I’d wait til the 1.7.7 client is patched or they support 1.8 though b4 i gave it a try.

24 Aug 13, 2008 at 00:45 by Jim McDish

Hey, another tool in the online privacy tool belt is always a good thing is it not?

JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

25 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:04 by Me

Not free? I’m not interested then.

26 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:21 by Eli

Hotspot Shield can hide your IP, but i’m not sure about torrents

27 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:26 by Anon

@23

..

28 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:26 by Anonymous

So is it 100% secure from RIAA and MPAA?? Could somebody explain exactly what an SSH tunnel does?

Thanks.

29 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:26 by Anonymous

Tiep Nay

30 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:46 by mu57i11

If a firewalls blocking bittorrent then surely its going to block ssh.
Even if for some reason it hasn’t, “hmmm, wonder what that 50 gig of encrypted trafic is???”
Seedboxes are more expencive yes, but if you go with someone like ovh, its not that much more in comparison to what your getting.

31 Aug 13, 2008 at 01:56 by Anonymous

Their website needs caching, it’s dead right now.

32 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:09 by Anonymous

I never understood why companies attempt to market themselves towards pirates.. they’re pirates for a reason, they don’t spend money to get what they want.

33 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:19 by heavensrevenge

no trial period?? like… 2 weeks or sumthin?? i think that would be perfect to trial, decide and see whether or not it would be fair to pay or not, BECAUSE if it was, and was quality, i would, otherwise i don’t wanna dish out a good 20 mins of my time to configure my own damn firewalled ssh tunnel. As my tie is more valuable that what its asking lol ANYWAYS i hope they make a trial period or sumthin, that would help uptake and migration AND adoption

34 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:26 by Anonymous

This is a tangentially related by important thing to note: The Pirate Bay is not blocked in China. It is important to note that even in countries where it is blocked, P2P has much more potential than the HTTP internet in spreading free speech and getting around censorship.

Torrents have a great potential, but only if torrents are able to be passed around freely. Security and anonymity for the peers is also a very important point.

35 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:32 by Anonymous

@34
Indeed, what is more important is contribution rather than profit. File-sharing is not about paying to get something back - it is about contributing to the community.

36 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:39 by ...

@23: You’re an idiot and you’re wrong.

37 Aug 13, 2008 at 02:46 by haha

mirror??

Website is down for the count.

38 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:06 by Anonymous

The 1.7.7 version will be fine as the client is made to connect to their servers and pass information through them. Anyone sending you data is really sending it to them and then it goes from there to you. So a hacker can’t get access to you. Your I.P is also unknown as they won’t be willing to give it out as stated in the article. The best picture to draw is like a bridge

39 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:11 by ratn9ne

Maybe some of you cool people have no letters from anti-piracy groups, but i have had 5 letters come to my home from 2 different ISP’s. Hiding your IP is quite useful and i will probably try this service and compare it to my current services, btguard and relakks. (Both work decently)

40 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:16 by Feruken

@ 34.

That’s totally not true, the thing about file sharing is even if you buy it, you can always get it faster from this method most of the time. So in short, even if the person downloads, it can be other factors in why they did.

1. Wanting what you bought fast, usually you have to wait for it to ship and depending on the shipping method or where you live it can take some time.

2. Wanting to see if your computer can run it. There aren’t always demos of things and sometimes they aren’t even fully as optimized as the final product.

3. It’s available and it’s fun.

I won’t rule out that some people will just download, but have an open mind about it at least.

41 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:23 by sk0t

It never fails to see the ignorance of users who read the news… it isn’t like TorrentFreak is ramming this down your throats, it says at the end… Its up to you whether you think it is worth it or not… I commend TF for atleast letting us know about this…

Jesus you people are ignorant.

42 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:25 by Anonymous

@34

agreed. if you are going to pay for something why not just get it legally and not have to worry about anything?

43 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:30 by burton68

I would never recommend a service that is strictly for torrent use.

44 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:39 by Anonymous

SSH tunnel means encrypted traffic from machine A (yours) to machine B (theirs); then your internet activity appears as if you were machine B.

Problem is, if machine B gets compromised/confiscated, it will be easy to reach you.

A decentralized solution like TOR is much better, but it can’t handle the heavy burden of bittorrent traffic yet.

The definite solution would be a bittorrent like protocol with anonymity and encryption built in.

Perfect Dark and Share are anonymous p2p client/networks, but work more like gnutella than bittorrent; and force insane speed and storage requirements.

45 Aug 13, 2008 at 03:59 by noonespecial

“TorrentFreak, seriously, think things through before you write articles on them.”

so… torrentfreak shouldnt of written a news article about this?

torrentfreak is a p2p news site.. and the article they posted was p2p news if im not mistaken. Think before you post to be honest.

in regards to the news article it self… i think there are cheaper ways to hide your identity :S

46 Aug 13, 2008 at 04:10 by meeeeeeeee

my balls itch ;(

47 Aug 13, 2008 at 04:26 by Will

Muhahaha site is dead already and no trial at all to even see if its worth it… Lame!!

Epic failure!!

48 Aug 13, 2008 at 05:14 by Anonymous

centralization which is what this does is never good. P2P is decentralization. Putting all IPs in one database is bad. I agree with the person who mentioned that we need “nodes”. Someone who is English speaking needs to make an english version of the Share P2P app which uses nodes and is the best anonymous P2P made to date. Basically, with this method, the file is encrypted until it completes on your harddrive and is de-coded. Only way to find out what you have is for someone to be lurking on your harddrive and knows the folder that you are downloading too. Why hasn’t this been done yet? I’m guessing people have been paid off?

49 Aug 13, 2008 at 06:27 by Anonymous

I hope this has got noting to do with Torrent Freedom ( http://torrentfreak.com/torrentfreedom-offers-anonymous-and-unrestricted-bittorrent-080208/ ), just read the comments on that article, was proven to be a complete scam.

50 Aug 13, 2008 at 07:10 by Nomad

I just paid for the ‘gold’ Torrent Privacy service and got the confirmation e-mail.

But when I logged-on to download the program I just got the message:

“This service is available only for Gold users”

SNAFU - Not a good start.

51 Aug 13, 2008 at 07:21 by Boris

I’m curious, how do services like these escape requests for subscriber information that generic ISPs are bound to abide?

P.S. I’ll throw in another vote for more decentralisation. ;)

52 Aug 13, 2008 at 07:39 by Hulk

Interesting things not mentioned in the article:

- What type of payment do they offer, is it possible to pay anonymously

- Do they retain the IP you use to login (internal IP)? Do they retain the IP they assign (external IP)? If so, how-long? Are they able to cross-link the account infos with the connection infos (internal or external IP)?

- Are they legaly obliged to hand out either connection data (IP+Timestamp) or user data (Account name, billing data, maybe even real names or addresses) if requested by local authorities (f.e. police etc.) or even privat organistation (like RIAA, GVU etc.)?

53 Aug 13, 2008 at 07:45 by ka_ko

use
your-freedom.net

54 Aug 13, 2008 at 08:03 by Anonymous

How can they offer torrent privacy when they can’t even afford login privacy. Their site does not offer SSL (HTTPS) logins. At least get a free Comodo or CA certificate. It’s better than nothing.

55 Aug 13, 2008 at 09:07 by Anonymous

Nice, i decided to use this service. Actually, i received lawsuit not so far. F*cking RIAA…

56 Aug 13, 2008 at 09:18 by Theodore

If you want to use this to pirate music and films, think again: this provider is not above the law and has to provide data to the authorities. And since you have to pay, there is a neat money trail between you and the company. Nothing gained.

57 Aug 13, 2008 at 09:35 by Anonymous

@42
Indeed. Perhaps TF should add a disclaimer to each post, or just put it at the front page, “don’t like? don’t read.”

58 Aug 13, 2008 at 09:53 by Anonymous

Indeed, I think that that a “tor” or “Share” version of BitTorrent is far safer. Basically, people can set up their own nodes, and all the peers automatically become nodes, so instead of downloading directly, people download through a peer or dedicated node, or possibly through several, along with automatic encryption. In addition, each node should be within a distributed cache, so that people can store data on anybody’s machine in an allocated space, making everybody an automatic seeder of any random torrent if somebody else wishes to make it so. It would be preferable if people can connect even when they are on different torrents, so that they can still download through them.

59 Aug 13, 2008 at 10:42 by seedr

Good service, and the nay-sayers, really wtf? Bittorrent users need more options for security, good security is worth money and this sounds like it’s fast and reliable as well

60 Aug 13, 2008 at 11:56 by mu57i11

@61
Considdering that multipal users have reported that the site is down, that they have no ssl’s and that one user paid and was not able to use, how on earth does this sound reliable?

61 Aug 13, 2008 at 12:28 by s2pid

the more we take apart this p2p protocol the more insecure users become.We become vulnerable.The Anti-P2P Scene is sowing seeds of doubt.

P.S There is one goal.Divide and Conquer.

62 Aug 13, 2008 at 13:05 by Luis

Offtopic… is TPB down?

Message: No se pudo conectar al servidor de caché // could not stablish a cache server connection

63 Aug 13, 2008 at 15:17 by sdgf

@63 i tried a few hours ago…i think so

TF needs to learn to write the price at the start. I just wasted about 2 minutes reading this to find out that this costs..moneY?

64 Aug 13, 2008 at 16:50 by ennio

I agree on what you already said about this event. Thanks for supporting for this kind of things in our lives.

65 Aug 13, 2008 at 18:10 by Anonymous

@62
It is debate, debate is healthy. No, I do not agree that every “tool” for BitTorrent is equally useful. Sure, sometimes debates on which one is better than the rest can sometimes be distracting, but criticism only makes people think and want to do better things.

I do not think it is so much doubt as it is just that “there are some things they should have done that they haven’t.” You understand what I mean?

66 Aug 13, 2008 at 18:47 by banderas

too bad Torrentreactor.net sucks i would like to see this on other trackers.

67 Aug 13, 2008 at 18:49 by considering

Ditto what JT said - The more varied and scattered services like this out there in the wild, the better. They’ll each have their weaknesses and strong points, and consumers will suss them out accordingly.

Considering Relakks is still f’d for some reason and can’t re-up accounts, its interesting to see new options like this popping up ever 30 days, in all kinds of different countries.

68 Aug 13, 2008 at 19:07 by michael

There is one huge issue with this service which most people seem to be overlooking…private trackers.

Most private trackers use your IP to make sure you’re actually allowed to connect to their tracker, this makes that system unworkable.

69 Aug 13, 2008 at 19:12 by Anonymous

Linux client?

70 Aug 13, 2008 at 19:13 by Parker

I use Perfect Privacy VPN since a year with RPF and could recommend it.

71 Aug 13, 2008 at 20:31 by Anonymous

If you idiots are going to keep implying that Bittorrent, Inc. is the son of satan, here’s a nice idea for you: OFFER SOME PROOF OR SHUT IT!

72 Aug 13, 2008 at 22:21 by Ibod Catooga

You are all butt pirates.

73 Aug 13, 2008 at 22:22 by Mat

People can still connect to you, its just forwarded through a server, so they recieve the servers ip, not yours…

74 Aug 14, 2008 at 00:31 by Anonymous

Radical civil disobedience. What we need to do is to set fire to the RIAA buildings, smash their windows, destroy their homes. We need to go to the political party meetings and disrupt them. Disrupt the meetings of the democratic party and the republican party.

You think that illegal activities won’t do anything? Why, yes, it will. Look at the “Battle of Seattle.” We need to do more radical stuff. Years have passed, and it has shown that the “nice” methods of the EFF are ineffectual and can’t do anything.

75 Aug 14, 2008 at 00:32 by Anonymous

Anyone know how to obtain a pipe bomb? It is necessary that we all plant a bomb in the RIAA and destroy their building.

76 Aug 14, 2008 at 00:41 by Anonymous

By the way, I will seriously BOMB the headquarters of the RIAA. What the RIAA have been doing is MORALLY WRONG and UNACCEPTABLE for FAR TOO LONG. Copyright as it currently is is UNACCEPTABLE and is essentially MEDIA CONTROL and a controlling of what people do with their own property. How could giving away a copy of a CD be “stealing” anyways? That is just ridiculous, essentially since you are supposed to OWN the CD when you buy it, and you are supposed to be able to do whatever you want with it. Copyright is a GRAVE invasion of copyright and personal property rights. Copyright needs to be changed. Nonprofit uploading of copyrighted materials needs to be legalized. But the RIAA here is UNACCEPTABLE and they all need to DIE. I am not talking about laws here; I am talking about morality. So I will BOMB their building. They seriously deserve no life. When the bomb explodes, I will be happy that all of those bastards are in hell.

77 Aug 14, 2008 at 01:22 by Anonymous

@77
How can violence solve anything at this stage? It can only make us look bad. What is really needed is for us to show the public why copyright law is ridiculous as it currently is. You know, show just how unfair the RIAA is. Violence can’t show that what the RIAA is doing is wrong. After all, it can only harden the opinion of those against us.

78 Aug 14, 2008 at 01:59 by Carrot Top

why not just dl this program like we do the rest and get it for free. or hack into their systems and steal a password. lol

oh. honor among thieves.

79 Aug 14, 2008 at 08:20 by pssh

Pricing is insane ssh proxies are easy for most to come by plus it uses a version of uTorrent that every botnet with a clue is targeting

80 Aug 14, 2008 at 12:12 by i2p

Why can’t we just start using BT over i2p?

81 Aug 14, 2008 at 13:27 by 8

you can use PeerGurdain 2 for free. and it is hide of ip address

82 Aug 14, 2008 at 14:09 by John

Whats up with all the bitching? It sounds like an easy to use, cheap, and reliable service. Not everything is free in the world. Use it or don’t use it, but don’t bitch at the company for charging a small amount for a quality service.

83 Aug 14, 2008 at 15:48 by meemo

I doubt there is Linux version… :(

84 Aug 14, 2008 at 18:20 by poo

I will stick too https://www.flashback.name/

85 Aug 14, 2008 at 18:25 by lulz

@78
The only thing that can solve any and all problems is violence.
:)

If you kill your enemy it does not matter if u look bad or not, you have won!!
The win is what matters, if u don’t win your a loser.

Violence FTW!

86 Aug 14, 2008 at 20:00 by Anonymous

It’s really idiotic of the commenters saying it’s useless etc.( I’m curious if 8 year old kids started to read TorrentFreak. )There are other services like this one (btguard,relakks..), and they are serving because there is a need,so a market for this. We are reading RIAA/MPAA lawsuits all the time, and some of us wouldn’t want our ISP or employer etc. to find out what we are downloading or uploading.

87 Aug 14, 2008 at 23:33 by Anonymous

@19, @81
Last I checked, i2p came with a bittorrent client.

88 Aug 15, 2008 at 05:46 by Anonymous

Can someone else pls. tell me how the service is ?
Even post no. #51 ..

Im planning to get this, and i would like to know if it actually helps ..

And im especially worried abt. the money trail and the data handover part ..

89 Aug 15, 2008 at 06:22 by Anonymous

Perhaps we should adopt the tactics of the suffragettes - extreme, radical, civil disobedience. It’s not like conventional methods would do anything, and public opinion doesn’t really matter at this point - what really matters is yelling as loudly as we can. We can do this through serious disruptions, like in the “Battle of Seattle” about 10 years ago. It is not so much about courting the public opinion as it is about getting noticed, and showing that we have a strong will.

90 Aug 15, 2008 at 14:11 by Heywood Jablomeh

I’ll stick with Linux, Azureus, and moblock. Too expensive with no linux support.

91 Aug 15, 2008 at 19:11 by Anonymous

At last I’ve tried the service. It’s easy use, and the speed seems almost the same.

I must say that the service works.

92 Aug 15, 2008 at 22:06 by Anonymous

screw you… triyng to get money from pirates… you should be killed for that.

PIRACY SHOULD BE FREE… DON’T PAY FOR PIRACY.

93 Aug 16, 2008 at 15:47 by Anonymous

anyone else who used this and has any comments ?

94 Aug 18, 2008 at 13:58 by Anonymous

alright i hear everyone’s plights but get realistic if you’ve been coming to torrentfreak for any amount of time you know that torrentfreak’s reporting is often quite questionable toward being fact based.

With that said is this ready out of the box in utorrent v1.77 or is it a pay for srvc.

These two details seem quite contradictory as is most of this info found at torrentfreak.

95 Aug 20, 2008 at 09:43 by Anonymous

I just purchased a month’s subscription and it’s working amazingly.

They say every log is erased, only your perosnal details from, say, the page where your enter your credit card is kept if you commit some sort of ridiculous crime. Just like any other credit card service.

Sounds legit to me.

96 Aug 21, 2008 at 03:36 by juanelo

very vefy very goood thinds

97 Dec 23, 2008 at 10:45 by games fly

I agree, paying monthly subscription for stuff like this is terrible

98 Jan 06, 2009 at 11:44 by JRT1674

well if you pay them with a credit card they already know what you are doing, you just signed over all your nfo, and where you live

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