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France Tracks Down 18 Million File-Sharers

Starting October last year French Internet users have been receiving letters as part of the three-strikes system built-in to the controversial Hadopi anti-piracy legislation. This week the agency responsible for the warnings gave out details on the scope of the operation. In the last 9 months 18 Million file-sharers were tracked, but due to limited capacity ‘only’ 470,000 warnings were sent out to first-time offenders.

Under France’s new Hadopi law, alleged copyright infringers will be hunted down systematically with the ultimate goal of decreasing piracy. Alleged offenders are identified by their Internet providers and will be reported to a judge once they have received three warnings.

The judge will then review the case and hand down any one of a range of penalties, from fines through to disconnecting the Internet connection of the infringer.

This week the Hadopi office for the first time released official data on the massive anti-piracy effort. The scope of the operation is mind-boggling, but whether it will result in the desired outcome is yet to be seen.

Despite millions of file-sharers being tracked, France has yet to witness its first disconnection.

The Hadopi agency revealed that since October last year the IP-addresses of 18 Million file-sharers were reported by their ‘hacked‘ tracking partner Trident Media Guard. Of this massive list a randomly selected sample of one million IP-addresses was sent to the Internet providers to obtain further information on the subscribers, and 900,000 identities were returned.

This mass discovery process resulted in 470,000 first warning emails, which equals little over 50,000 per month. The number of people who received a second warning is currently stuck at 20,000 and only 10 Internet subscribers received a third warning.

According to the Hadopi agency these 10 cases are currently being investigated by a judge. These alleged offenders risk a fine of 1500 euros and could lose their Internet connection temporarily. Thus far, however, no French file-sharers have been disconnected.

As the results of France’s controversial three-strikes anti-piracy law are revealed, many people doubt whether the costs involved with the massive operation are justified.

Last month a report from the UN’s Human Rights Council labeled Internet access a human right, arguing that Hadopi is a disproportionate law that should be repealed. This assessment was supported by Reporters Without Borders recently.

“Aside from its practical omissions and shortcomings, the Hadopi law directly violates the principles of the defence of free expression by making it possible to disconnect people from the Internet. Its adoption was one of Reporters Without Borders’ reasons for adding France to the list of ‘countries under surveillance’ in its latest ‘Enemies of the Internet’ report,” the organization writes.

In addition to the human rights issues it is also highly questionable how significant the claimed deterrent effect of the disconnection threat is.

A recent survey by ZDNet.fr found that just 4% of file-sharers polled said they have stopped sourcing music from illegal services for fear of detection. Instead, many BitTorrent users simply turn to proxies and VPNs to conceal their identities.

Thus far, however, the French Government is determined to continue its war against piracy. Effective or not, the Hadopi office will continue to track down millions of French file-sharers each month in the hope that the tide turns in their favor.

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  • DANNY

    FAIL!!

  • Quest The Guest

    just 18 mil? they’re doing a lousy job tracking!

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      “As of January 1, 2011, 65,821,885 people live in the French Republic.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France

      65,312,249 (July 2011 est.)
      https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/fr.html

      Roughly 28% of France has been tracked. When you criminallize 28% of your population you are surely doing it right!

      • http://twitter.com/kingalekz Alexander Karp

        And those are only the ones that got caught. If so many people were doing it, you’d think there’s something wrong with the system, not the people.

      • Joe

        While I agree with your sentiment mate, my rough guess is that 30%+ of france take illigal drugs, its still against the law though, and will remain so even if 50% take them.

        The war on piracy is a war that cant be won, just as the war on drugs cant be won.

        • http://nsanedown.com nsane

          Actually…

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/22/marijuana-bill-barney-frank-ron-paul_n_882707.html

          And considering the huge issue of the Debt Ceiling lately and the realization that we need to cut spending. Not to mention the way the bill is worded and points out the constitutional hypocrisy of the current law. I think the bill stands a very good chance of PASSING!

          Next, Filesharing! ;)

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Sanity in the US, that’s new! Marijuana is actually a very friendly ‘drug’, it has calming effects unlike many others. I haven’t tried because my lungs can’t cope with smoke in general but ppl say it’s calming and it’s not as addicting as it’s said (they compare to smoking regular cigarettes).

          So uh, yes, score for the US. However, the file sharing war is fairly recent. Let us hope they won’t take 40 years to try to make it legal.

        • Pride

          @Ninja

          “Marijuana is actually a very friendly ‘drug’, it has calming effects unlike many others.”

          The calming effects don’t have anything to do with the drug not being dangerous. Heroin and other depressants have a much greater “calming” effect then marijuana, but they are much more dangerous. In fact, marijuana is only calming because of its hallucinogenic effects, which can backfire and cause paranoia and other non-calming side effects, although that’s thankfully rather rare. The smoke is really bad for you though.

          And no one really says it’s addictive (no one medically credible at least). The only major addiction risk is psychological dependence, which is a risk with any substance.

          That’s my nitpick for the day. Off to troll somewhere else.

  • Blackplan

    French VPNS -> Lose Business
    Foreign VPNs -> Gain Business

    Can only go downhill from here?

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      What about when they censor sites in every country? What will we do then?

      Sometime we are going to have to stand up and fight, running and hiding behind things will not last forever.

      Then again we have Freenet/Darknets…for a while…

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        More like forever, to be blunt on the subject.

      • merethan

        We can also go mesh-networking, essentially creating our “own” net, as the current net is owned by corporations.

        There’s really no way to stop the exchange of information. Motivated by greed/profit, religious beliefs, search for power; it doesn’t matter. This technology called “the Internet” is unstoppable.

      • None

        Look in to USB Dead Drop. I’ve been working on an idea to emulate a solar-powered wireless Dead Drop.

  • Viking

    18 million file sharers. 10 cases under investigation. Why? Whatever you can think of French government, they are not idiots. 18 million sharers=18 million voters (even more if you consider their family members). Very serious reason to be VERY VERY careful….

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Stop! They should sue every single of those 18 million. This would drive Sarkozy and his shitty party out of power. That’s great news! Let’s support Hadopi!

    • Ven

      Odds are good that a huge portion of the 18 million letters either made it to unaware parents who got scared and wrangled their children, or went to people who then took the 10 minutes to search up a VPN/proxy solution to the issue.

      People would be stupid to allow themselves to get all three warnings.

    • B7999941

      I’d like to agree with you, but there’s no chance everyone in a group of 18 million file-sharers are able to vote.

    • B7999941

      I’d like to agree with you, but there’s no chance everyone in a group of 18 million file-sharers are able to vote.

      • B7999941

        That said, it’s obviously still going to be above at least 10 million of them.

  • Julian

    are there free alternatives to btguard?

    • Blackplan

      Nothing reliable. There’s free VPNs, but the ones I can think of are slow/not reviwed/based in the US. You’re better off paying £5 a month for something like BTGuard or IPredator.

      • EZ

        easy alternative – stop filesharing :)
        if it is not possible for you, use rapid* and clones
        if this, in turn, is not possible, just stop consuming “content”

        • Zzzz

          Nice grammar and punctuation there dude, which school did you fail to attend?

        • O_o

          That’s like saying you should stop breathing so as not to get avian flu.

        • surrounded by morons

          Obviously, you do not fail at failing. Keep up the good work..

    • Strobble

      Use Tor with Tails.. if it is set up properly it does work nicely or just get what you want and then get off.

  • Paul Keller

    so in 2010 france had 25,549,20 households which means that if these figures are to be believed (which i doubt) almost 4/5th of these households engage in fiel sharing.

    Given this the 18 million figure is almost certainly bogus. Also of course the figure reported by here cannot be the figure of file-sharers, but rather represents the number of IP adresses reported. that does not translate 1:1 to individuals and given the track records of the organisations involved it is fairly safe to assume that there are a lot of ‘false positives’ in there…

    • http://fuzzytutorials.com Richard Gailey

      You know what governments are like; it’s all about the numbers. If they can make up a bullshit number that is large enough for the people to go ‘Wow’ at, then the government can justify themselves to their voters on any actions they take. The unfortunate thing is though, that most of the voters are pretty dumb and will believe the reported numbers and alleged damage that is being done to the economy/ industries.
      I’d love to see the French gov sued by someone that get’s falsely disconnected citing a breach of human rights and have the UN on their side.

      It sickens me that the governments of the US/ UK/ France/ Spain etc are utterly in the limitless pockets of the music and film corporations. We need leaders that will stand up to their horse shit and say ‘enough is enough’.

      • Ven

        The UN would be on their side, but would be unable to assist them in any way. They could however take their case up to the EU courts, where who knows what kind of ruling would be passed down.

    • http://twitter.com/rds Richard

      The higher the number, the worse they look. If someone in France looks at the figure of 18 million – regardless of how they calculated that bunk figure – you’d probably feel solidarity that everyone is doing it so why should I stop? How exactly do they expect to punish 20% of the entire population?

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        28%

        I’m laughing on the idea.

      • Zzzz

        “How exactly do they expect to punish 20% of the entire population? ”
        Agreed, it’s actually 28% file sharing, which is even worse.
        Killed stone dead by it’s own success.

      • Ven

        I don’t know, how do they all manage to take a large chunk of cash from 100% of the adults above the poverty line?

  • http://twitter.com/bluntrophy bluntrophy

    hello, welcome, goodmorning

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  • Guest

    Wow, good job France, criminalise the people whose votes you need to get into power. The US, France, Australia, and to a lesser degree the UK are quickly becoming the new Chinas.

    • O_o

      At least China doesn’t pretend like it cares about its citizens.

  • Guest

    France = fail

    • haha

      OP is fag.

  • Dididavetracker

    As of January 1, 2011, 65,821,885 people live in France
    18 Million people already caught downloading in the first 9 months????

    so lets get a approx total for a full 12 months

    approx 24million might been seen in 12 months going by there own figures.

    That is 36% of the french are downloaders if my maths are right

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      That. I sincerely laughed when I saw the figures lmao

    • Zzzz

      You can’t say 18m in 9 months means 24m in 12.
      I shared files for the last 12 months.
      If I share them a further 12 months would that make me 2 people?

      The vast majority of file sharers would have been active in the last 9 months but that doesn’t mean they caught them all of course.

  • golul

    *This is good busines, 18. 000. 000.- € x 1500.- its huh, 27.000.000.000.- € Goverment got new cashCow.

  • Sac

    This is no spam. but I want you to take a good look at piracy laws of the world. Better get a vpn. http://www.internetindustrywatch.com/worldwide-piracy-laws

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Yes, it is spam, because none of that is true in the slightest. Especially the “United States has the lowest rate of piracy in the world” statement.

      • Ben

        i think by “lowest rate of piracy” they mean “harsher punishment laws”

        • Zzzz

          They are trying to say that legislation works in cutting piracy.

    • Zzzz

      This isn’t true either.
      “The UK has very low piracy rates. The nation has adopted a highly controversial ‘three strikes’ Internet piracy law, disconnecting multiple time offenders from the Internet while levying heavy fines. ”
      The policy hasn’t started yet, nobody has been disconnected and there is no provision to fine anyone.

    • DocGerbil100

      Badly wrong about the UK – as Zzzz above says, we do not have three-strikes rules, fines or disconnections at this time (it’s all very much under construction) and – in direct contradiction to the UK’s entry on the site – the government has recently somewhat back-pedalled from disconnections.

      It’s also clearly badly past it’s sell-by date, considering the reference to Cameron’s “new” government, which hasn’t really been new since May 2010.

      It’s a good idea for a site, but currently contains complete rubbish. :/

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  • Ahoy

    Sorry, but I read Le Monde’s article as meaning 18 million instances of file sharing were tracked, leading to 900,000 users being identified, of which 470,000 were sent 1st strike letters and 20,000 2nd strikes.

    I could be wrong, my French is a little rusty, but there’s quite a big difference between 18 million and 900,000 and I think its worth getting the facts straight

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      hmm, meaning all those 900k are probably getting disconnected since they got caught in more than 1 strike. France, breaching human rights of nearly 1 million people since Hadopi was born. Sounds great huh?

      • Ven

        Only the UN thinks it’s a human right.

        Which is easy for the UN to say, they don’t actually have to go out and make their ideals work in the real world.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          UN = United Nations. Plural. So technically, if the UN says something the member countries should try to abide by that. But since the UN is pretty much ignored by the very countries that compose it so I’d say it’s pretty much worthless. Not that their ideas aren’t right.

          Still, for the general public what the UN says has its value and that’s where the UN holds some minimal power. Ppl will pressure the Govts if they go against the UN.

          So as you see, it will have negative impact and while the French Govt wokrs for themselves it’ll at least cost the party in power a few votes ;)

        • Ven

          It only costs them votes if the opposition won’t support it. In that case, the opposition may very well lose the votes of people who support copyright (which is also quite a few people).

  • Guest

    Anyway, you can be sure Mr. Sarkozy has already lost the next elections. Maybe sanity will come back to the land of Voltaire…

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    Stop file sharing is not an alternative. I’d reduce my legal media consumption to pay for a good VPN. Fair enough ;)

  • Acce

    At least 28% of the french do it. Vive la France! I’d like to see those 18 million french get disconnected!

    • MAFIAA (French Branch)

      Be careful what you wish for…

  • saddened

    I am writing only to say that I would comment more if it wasn’t for Disqus. I can’t stand to log in to comment. As long as you use this system many will avoid your site as they don’t feel freedom to comment as they like. Disqus is horrible and ruining just about every website. This is a shame because I use to like coming here for a healthy discussion about the topics you have. This will be my last comment until Disqus is removed. I take no pride in that, as this was one of my most visited sites.

    Please get rid of Disqus

    • Zig

      You don’t have to log in to comment – you can use any email address/username, they don’t have to be real.

      • Ven

        It’s still painfully annoying.

  • Anonymous

    Well if 18 million people did infringe then to only go after 470,000 seems rather inefficient being only 2.6% of the total meaning 97.4% avoided Hadopi warning letters.

    What is more interesting is that this 18 million would be 27.35% of the French population which is a whole lot of voters to annoy. Should we expand this to cover the population of the European Union then that would be 137.4 million infringers in just this region. North America, although less accurate, would be 144.6 million infringers.

    It seems that my estimate of 100 to 200 million infringers on a global scale could be largely inaccurate when this French sample indicates it is closer to 1.9 billion. Not all people are on the Internet though so make that closer to 1 billion.

    This sounds to me much like the US alcohol prohibition. People say “we are just enjoying ourselves. we are causing no harm. you cannot stop us”. The Hadopi warning letters should have some affect, and some stop infringing, but if there is a core belief in file sharing for the majority then the real result would be driving people underground.

    For example they cant track file locker downloads and filestube.com is a search engine.

    Then if you desire the news server option then binload.com is current in beta testing stage and is therefore providing FREE high speed Usenet binary downloads. Their app makes downloads easy but be careful of spam.

    So I only now wonder what will become of Hadopi in the long term? As infringers change their behaviour to avoid Hadopi then so will their detection rate fall. Hadopi is likely to claim success but more independent evidence would say a good majority has just moved underground. What happens then I don’t know.

    • Ven

      They will claim victory because it is harder to pirate. Then they do away with VPN and proxies, and it becomes even harder. Eventually, online file-sharing becomes too much of a hassle and we go back to burning CDs for people we know personally.

      They know they can’t stomp piracy out, they just want to minimize the effect it has on sales.

      • Josh C

        If I was fined for something I was most likely gonna pay for (I am a music addict, I love just about anything, except country and rap), then that would sure as hell make me want to stop buying the crap. Also, where do all the fines from this go?

        • Ven

          Fines go to the government, through certain specific channels usually.

          There is also an outside chance it goes back to some copyright organization, in which case we would see it used for “educating the masses” about the horrors of file sharing.

        • Ven

          @Scary Devil Monastery

          IIRC the world still runs on RSA encryption mathematics, which means you and an online store or bank would still be able to securely send safely encrypted information back and forth. You just can’t hide where the information is being sent from/to without a VPN.

          But the reality is that, at some point, somebody knows where the information is really getting sent. The law enforcement agencies only need to require this information be turned over, or block IP ranges, and this kind of abuse would disappear.

          So a more accurate analogy would be: “We know somebody whispered this specific statement and we know you know who it is, tell us or we don’t let you talk to others anymore.”

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        “Then they do away with VPN and proxies”

        I dearly wish to know how that would even be possible. Well, in theory it would be but you can forget all about online banking and online purchases in general as you’d have to be sending your bank account and code in clear text.

        From a purely technical standpoint the only way to prohibit VPN or proxying is if you first remove the ability to encrypt altogether.

        So what you are saying is really “Let’s make a law against people whispering where we can’t hear them”. Damn difficult to enforce.

  • Guest3453

    haha they cant disconnect us all never stop sharing

    • Ven

      They could fine you all. Call it a Stupid Tax for getting caught that many times.

  • tiger97a

    well we all know that france is a butt kissing nation, as the leaders their are getting those under the table benifits and the companhy that is tracking them is owned by the presidents wife, so you are screwed.

    tell them no and start dropping the internet for two months and ever isp their would change their policy.

  • Mike

    Don’t understand the French their politicians just now are super corrupt. The people do nothing to stop them. The home of the modern republic. Shame. Napoleon would turn in his grave.

    Come on France show some backbone. Are we going to get another WW2 roll over here.

    • Zzzz

      Napoleon was a dictator.
      Hardly the freedom lover you make him out to be,

  • http://twitter.com/foodlfg foodlfg

    The only good things in France are roundabouts and Tour de France.
    Those are not illegal. yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Brazell/100002034890242 Sean Brazell

    The only way they’ll get my internet is if they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers!! =)

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  • Anon

    This shit makes me sick. Starving kids and all that, right? Not to mention the other problems the world faces and yet here’s that sociopath Sarkozy, blowing millions and not giving a shit because his worldview is the right one.

    • Anon

      He’s leading the way towards a lawfully calibrated internet, to reflect the wishes of society IRL. His worldview is the right one and pirates will never gain the numbers to make a significant opposition. The only thing that remains to be seen is if he’s too much ahead of his time. Do you really think the current state of the internet with all the lawless behavior will be permitted forever? Oh right, they can’t stop you! lol

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Troll. The internet has severe jurisdictional problems. Unless this is addressed it’ll be pretty much impervious to laws that are not universal such as laws that forbid one from taking the life of another human being (pretty much all countries have a law that states this). So no, he’s not reflecting the wishes of society and 28% of the French being caught shows how much he’s connected to his pocket and apart from society.

        Copyright is hardly any sort of unanimity. It’s becoming clear, however, that file sharing is socially accepted and not regarded as anything you copyright moronic trolls try to paint.

        Sarkozy is too much behind of his time. And unfortunately he’ll leave descendants to keep making this world a worse place.

        • Ven

          Socially accepted is never a good reason for something to be considered good or right.

          And the reality is, the internet is basically a conglomerate of hardware that falls under the jurisdiction of hundreds of countries, which makes it a real pain in the ass for each and every one. In the end, we will see walled internet, because that is the only way the internet will be as Anon said, “Lawfully calibrated.”

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          “In the end, we will see walled internet, because that is the only way the internet will be as Anon said, “Lawfully calibrated.”

          Half right. Yes, a “walled” internet is the only way to lawfully calibrate it. It just isn’t a realistic or possible view however. You can sneak a darknet into a https transmission, you could run a “streaming app protocol” which actually is a p2p or ftp connection….and so on.

          Something every network engineer is aware of.

          The only real way to calibrate the internet is to abolish it. The same way the only real way you can stop people from whispering to each other is to disallow them a mouth.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          One of the evils of globalization, Ven. The State must be laic and laws that do not have general approval from the citizens are bound to fail. The question here is that there is no evidence that sharing has any harmful effect. And don’t come with poorly-built-MAFIAA-sponsored studies.

          If the majority of the ppl think file sharing is ok then are you really gonna criminalize them all? Even if it does cause economic losses as MAFIAA claims (and it doesn’t seem that way) it’s no reason to try to protect the business model with laws. Ever seen train companies trying to pass laws to prevent ppl from using airplanes? No, they have to compete. Or even car companies passing laws to prevent you from using your bike for free?

          Maybe in the future we’ll see that just like slavery was a bad thing and it was banned we should have had implemented full censoring and control on the internet with disconnections and whatsoever. However, now, from what has been happening and from the pivotal role the internet has been having in free speech and rich discussions I’d say that the logical way is to make file sharing completely free (non-commercial obviously).

        • Ven

          @Scary Devil Monastery

          I’m not talking about total control of the population. I merely suggest that the future of the internet is one where 30 seconds of a Google search won’t allow you to have the world of copyrighted materials at your fingertips. People will still pass around burned CDs, and there really is no way to defeat that without some wild leap in DRM technology. But right now the fight is about stopping the widespread copyright infringement, and I think the future I mentioned above is a potential reality.

          @Ninja

          Sharing negates the right of the copyright holder to decide how their works are distributed. It has nothing to do with money. If you could prove to everyone that file-sharing wasn’t financially hurting the copyright holders, the laws wouldn’t change.

          “If the majority of the ppl think file sharing is ok then are you really gonna criminalize them all?”

          I don’t think laws should be reasoned and written based upon what most people think is okay. Most people in the USA wanted George Washington crowned king, and most of the people represented by the founding fathers wanted certain religions established and abolished. Popularity does not equal truth.

          And please consider this: laws are not supporting an outdated business model. You know why? Because the laws are not preventing anyone else from coming along and edging dinosaurs out with a better model. It just hasn’t happened. People would rather steal content from the old business model than support a new one. In doing so, they are expressing their desire for the continued existence of the old. Sure, the support may not be direct, but until the law is changed it is support nonetheless.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @Ven

          “and I think the future I mentioned above is a potential reality.”

          Not unless you radically alter the entire infrastructure of the internet from the ground up – in a way which assumes that “wild leap in DRM technology” you refer to has taken place without any corresponding development for the other side.

          A 30-second google search can indeed put most of the copyrighted material you like at your fingertips – but so can any search made by a bittorrent client using DHT or PEX these days. Any file transfer protocol can accomodate indexing and we already see working prototypes of clients capable of hiding and anonymizing both transfers and requests.

          No, I think I stand by my conclusion – in order to even put a stopper on filesharing the internet needs to be abolished first. As long as anyone can write a protocol allowing for encrypted intra-user proxying there is no possibility to stop a darknet.

          Unlike a determined protocol you can in most cases not even throttle an encrypted connection as there is no recognizeable protocol to tag it as at the relevant layer.

          Here are the absolute minimum requirements for stopping filesharing – every accessible site needs to be on a distributed whitelist. No other connections to be allowed. And every computer needs to be sold with every administrative user privilege abolished from the hardware side. I can’t see that happening and even if the attempt was made (and it has, see “trusted computing” and “green dam”) it can only succeed if literally everyone accepts it.

          In that respect copyright is much like communism. You need absolute control over dissidents and their ability to distribute information in order to uphold it, at a fairly terrible cost to society. I don’t see that happening.

      • Un Unwashed Heathen

        What’s the matter, company man?
        Ran short of old people, sick people, homeless people and dead people to terrorize and sue? There’s still plenty of inkjet printers to serve DMCAs on.

        Don’t you get it yet, fool? You’re being a cheerleader for the wrong side.
        I trust the brown shirt and jackboots fits you well. Seig Heil, motherfucker.

        • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

          Yo, heathen…

          That sort of cheerleader is never a jackbooted brownshirt – he’s a boot-licker, not a stomper: a ‘Little Eichmann’ like the type who toils away in a cubicle somewhere, perpetuating banal evil, stamping the files of people who refuse to lick the whip, and pretending that if some group of career parasites promulgate their collective opinion, it’s “law”.

          He’s the sort of scumbag who would never have gone out and captured an escaped slave, but would have informed on people who aided escaped slaves. The sort of vermin who attend public hangings… and cheer.

          A serf.

          And at risk of invoking Godwin, he would have informed against those who housed the Frank family – everything done to them was perfectly ‘legal’, and anyone who opposed it was not a Good German.

          If I had to bet: 5’8″ or shorter, finished in the middle of his class in a government high school.

          But your point is valid – fuck him. Wrong side of history and all that.

        • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

          Yo, heathen…

          That sort of cheerleader is never a jackbooted brownshirt – he’s a boot-licker, not a stomper: a ‘Little Eichmann’ like the type who toils away in a cubicle somewhere, perpetuating banal evil, stamping the files of people who refuse to lick the whip, and pretending that if some group of career parasites promulgate their collective opinion, it’s “law”.

          He’s the sort of scumbag who would never have gone out and captured an escaped slave, but would have informed on people who aided escaped slaves. The sort of vermin who attend public hangings… and cheer.

          A serf.

          And at risk of invoking Godwin, he would have informed against those who housed the Frank family – everything done to them was perfectly ‘legal’, and anyone who opposed it was not a Good German.

          If I had to bet: 5’8″ or shorter, finished in the middle of his class in a government high school.

          But your point is valid – fuck him. Wrong side of history and all that.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Correct. They can’t stop us. I could give you a simple technical breakdown on why this is so but it all boils down to the fact that you’d have to abolish the internet and the personal computer to do so.

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  • Velvetfog

    Lets see…

    They identified 18 million IP addresses used to break the law. Each IP address represents an individual household.
    France has a population of around 65 million.
    Assuming an average of 2.25 persons per household, that would indicate that France has 29 million households in total.

    18/29×100=62%

    The “criminals” who download stuff illegally represent the majority (62%) of the French people.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      I can give you a rough breakdown on those numbers. 13% are “false positives” – there was a hilarious University of Washington study on that where they started counting the number of DMCA notices they got sent which were adressed to ip’s belonging to laser printers and network routers. The rest are duplicates where filesharer A in three different sessions is registered under ip adress A, B and C.

      Toss in some random internet noise, misdirects and happy spoofing by cheerful french representatives of “Anonymous et al.” and I’m surprised they only ended up with 18 million. The vast majority of whom are likely to be innocent of filesharing but who will certainly take offense at being sent impolite “cease and desist” letters.

      Nothing ticks off a frenchman as effectively as some government-affiliated puke trying to tell him what to do. Looking at HADOPI I’m strangely relaxed these days – it’s like watching the keystone cops trying to arrest professor Moriarty.

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  • Razza

    I note with amusement that they’re sending letters to a ridiculously small proportion of the accused filesharers. They have no chance, and they know it. This is the death rattle of a worthless and choking industry. We won’t ever have to pay for culture again; we know it, they know it, and it’s already a reality. No money for culture ever again!

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    WOW. 18 million tracked, almost 500,000 served with warnings. Going to be great business for VPN’s located in the EU area in countries like Sweden that do not require logging, reporting, etc.

    A simple subscription to a high speed VPN provider for those in Spain would permanently solve their problem of receiving warnings. As long as the VPN provider is not based in Spain, not logging, and using something better than basic PPTP. Oh, and a provider that gives Dynamic IP’s would be nice too.

    How about VPNTunnel.SE? Meets all the requirements. All servers in Sweden, with the exception of a few US based servers (you don’t want those, they log). 5 euros a month. Surely 5 euros a month x 12 months = 60 euros is less than a potential frivolous lawsuit brought on by the Hadopi/Industry Mafia.

    VPNTunnel.SE review

    Oh, and BTW, nobody seems to be mentioning the fact that 18M users information is now stored by Hadopi. Can anyone say massive target for scammers/hackers/privacy/info thieves? Oh yeah baby, France just created one hell of a wonderful target right there. And every single one of those people should start looking into something that will monitor their personal information (in the US we have credit history checkers, etc.)

    I feel for the 500k people who got the letters in the mail…and for the other 17.5M, just wait till Hadopi gets bigger/better/faster printers! LOL…

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  • getoffayaweebassa

    i notice no one with warning in hand here. so am i to believe that not one french file sharer visits torrent freak? come on. No french i know have received any letter and they share plenty. scaremongering and propaganda are political tools that overstretched (and with large public deficits), governments are having to use as they have no other options. cry fowl falsely as they are doing and soon the public lose trust. they are not winning the war on the western front as yet another parliamentary review of the digital act in England will show in the next week.

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  • Fuckemailsnatching

    So France = 65 some million people.
    Roughly divide by 3-4 persons per home, add students, remove elderly people, that gives about 16-21 million households.
    Therefore, tracking 18 million connections means 85-100% of households use internet to share files.
    Totally marginal practice, indeed. It’s sad the government fights against the whole country.

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  • O_o

    Doing this during Bastille Day… Is nothing sacred?

  • Admin

    Simply for french pirates to make 3 strikes totally useless. 1. Use VPN or 2. Use usenet/newsgroups or 3. pages like http://www.rlslog.net http://www.sceper.eu

    With those 3 methods 3 strikes become totally useless and you can pirate without fear of any disconnection :)

  • Pride

    I know I’m a little late to this article, but I just wanted to point one thing out that I think some people missed. The 18 million is the number of complaints submitted to the anti-piracy system, not the number of individual people they’ve caught pirating. Many individual have 10-15 complaints submitted about them, which is only treated as 1 complaint by the cops (provided the complaints came in the same week or so).

    Just a little important to remember.

  • Thib0C

    “The Hadopi agency revealed that since October last year the IP-addresses of 18 Million file-sharers were reported by their ‘hacked‘ tracking partner Trident Media Guard.”
    This is not exact, it’s 18M infrigments, from what roughly 1M was randomly selectionned and identified.
    But, then again, DDL/streaming are growing rapidly in France, so there’s no real future for this “authority”. And by the time they reach the conclusion that Streaming is a legal mess and DDL website growfaster than shrooms on a pile of garbage, there’ll be thousands of alternatives.

    Governements organs are slow, Internet is fast, there’s no real need to be worried about this shit.

    However, French government just adopted a National Identity Card that will get your data to be stored in a Central File, welcome to 1984^10.

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