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French President’s Residence ‘Busted’ For BitTorrent Piracy

French President Nicholas Sarkozy is a man who has championed some of the most aggressive anti-piracy legislation in Europe. But today it’s revealed that the occupants of his very own office and home are responsible for a nice selection of pirate downloads using BitTorrent. Three strikes? Those with access to the Presidential Palace’s IP addresses have already doubled that quota.

Located near the Champs-Élysées in the French capital, Paris, the Élysée Palace is the official residence of President Sarkozy. As husband of ‘first lady’ and musician Carla Bruni, Sarkozy has helped promote and push through some of the toughest anti-filesharing legislation to be found anywhere in Europe.

Those provisions include Internet disconnections for persistent pirates, and as of October this year 60 French Internet subscribers were on their third and final strike.

This morning, however, we’re left wondering if Sarkozy, his family and French ministers will be able to answer any emails in the months to come.

As reported to TorrentFreak this morning by Nicolas Perrier of Nikopik, people using IP addresses allocated to the Élysée Palace (62.160.71.062.160.71.255) have been very naughty indeed.

According to data from YouHaveDownloaded.com, a range of downloads have been actioned from the Palace including a cam copy of Tower Heist, a telesync copy of Arthur Christmas, and music from The Beach Boys. The latter was actually a lossless FLAC rip, but as one might expect, only the best quality will do for the Palace.

BeachBoys

In total six infringing downloads were tracked back to Sarkozy’s residence, double the country’s three-strike limit.

It’s been an embarrassing few days for some not-so-secret users of BitTorrent. The IP addresses of several entertainment companies were reported as connected to allegedly infringing activity earlier this week using the same methods.

But while the reports from YouHaveDownloaded certainly have discussion value, it is worth noting that their data collection methods are just as untested as those employed by many private anti-piracy companies and their notoriously secretive ‘proprietary software’. The difference is, however, YHD aren’t using their data for the filing of lawsuits and getting people cut off from the Internet.

BitTorrent users are increasingly aware that their activities are public – those that monitor them for the purposes of punitive responses should experience the same standard. Finally, on the subject of equality, any predictions on odds for the Palace being disconnected for piracy? Save your money folks, some bets are a lost cause.

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  • Cofree

    Off with their head

    • JG

      I think the author’s article misunderstood the “three strike” concept. The three strikes represent three different kinds of warning sent to users who download illegaly copyrighted material. First warning says “we know you’ve been naughty so please stop”, the second one says basically the same thing and the third one warns users that their internet connection will be severed if they continue downloading illegal contents.

      So not really equivalent to downloading three or more kind of illegal content.

      Still I’d like to know who is behind the downloading of the beach boys etc. Also you could imagine that being the president Sarkozy could afford to get a private projection of any movies he wants, so the cam and telesync things seems pretty weird….

      • YarickZan

        I’d like to direct you to the pages and pages of older articles, especially the ones that describe exactly how the French laws work. If you weren’t being so pedantic you’d realize he understands perfectly, it’s just designed to cause a reaction in people.

        • JG

          No they’re not designed to cause a reaction, the guy who wrote just does not know shit about french laws so cut the crap.

          on another subject i may be pedantic but since you’re one of the biggest retards i’ve ever encountered online (see point 1) i guess we’re even.

        • Christophe Thomas

          Tout le monde ment, Tout le monde ment, Le gouvernement Ment énormément

        • Gene

          @JG You sounded intelligent until your second comment.
          @ YarickZan Which do you mean? Sarkozy causing a reaction or enigmax?

          I doubt Sarkozy himself downloaded anything, but being innocent of a crime doesn’t absolve you of it in this world. Guilty until death, gentlemen. Within a few weeks, it’ll come out that some employee did it out of spite or a plot to take down a big anti-pirate voice. Is it true? Only Sarkozy himself could know for sure.

          Keep in mind that YHD is experimental, computers can be hacked, and information can be changed. Both sides can misdirect and deceive until the truth is but a distant memory. Who knows if the allocated IP’s were secure or not? Nobody reading this comment, I assure you.

          But I agree with Coffee! Why? It’s funnier that way.

        • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

          > Christophe Thomas –

          Tout le monde ment,
          enormement
          Mais surtout ils mentent
          chez le Nabot Méchant

      • StevO

        Actually the notices have to be sent from the infringee, SO that means if you download 6 different things in one day, that means that those people have to send your ISP the infringes. That could be a month from now or 2 days. Either way 6 different infringees have to complain and send notices. No telling the delay between them.

      • Bob

        the author makes the assumption that each dl could have been flagged and lead to one strike, hence the twice three strikes thing.

    • Junk

      i wouldnt trust that site to start with
      i didnt download anything and it told me that i did and was some crap tv series i never heard before
      so how can you really take it seriously as they are only ip addres and if some one had the ip before there you go.
      so i dont really belive much from they site at all!

      • 3lu51v3

        That’s half of the point mate, other people/companies use the same technology to actually sue/extort people. which means YOU could end up in court for something you may not have done or settle because taking it further may cost too much.

        WHOOSH

  • http://twitter.com/DrLearnALot Jeanette

    The Beach Boys? Really?

    • Anonymous

      Go listen to ‘Pet Sounds’ and shut up.

  • Wuwekcaf

    It’s OK when THEY do it.

    • Anonymous

      It’s OK if the bogus IP evidence says they do it, more like.
      The hypocrisy on here is nauseating.

      • StevO

        It is hypocracy but its deserving.

      • Guest

        So it’s okay if the bogus IP evidence said Tanya Andersen did it, more like?

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    I know, I know, the data might not be accurate or even true, IP might be spoofed yada yada..

    But this is one mix of irony and hypocrisy that’s just too much.

    “But, but… It wasn’t me!” – Sarkozy told the press as his connection was cut.

  • Anonymous

    I always knew I lived in a country of hypocrites.
    Now here’s the “proof”.

    • http://twitter.com/Gnurkel Øystein Jakobsen

      Yeah, problem is – the mafiaa won’t sue policy makers. They want one law for the masses, one law for the others. As they get to collect and sue, they choose not to sue bigleaguers.

      One of the many problems by allowing placing police powers in private hands.

  • Atmon3r
  • Anonymous

    there would be no debate, no allowance and probably no defense listened to if it were an ordinary citizen caught or even accused of this heinous crime, so why should any quarter be given to this ‘Napoleon reborn’, little French prick? what excuse is going to be used to get him off the hook? whatever it is, others should be afforded the same. if anything, because of his position, and how pro- internet disconnection he is, he should be banned from the Internet for life!

    • <('-'<)

      Please, Napoleon did good things for France and Europe (and also a lot of extremelly bad things, I’m not denying that either).

  • Anonymous

    phlpn.es/829r8s

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Anderson/1094485930 Alexander Anderson

    Hypocrite or not. We should not resort to this kind of arguments in an attempt to legalize file sharing.

    • Anonymous

      Such discoveries do not justify piracy but neither does it justify bad laws.

  • Anonymous

    lol, thats jsut too funny when you think about it.
    http://www.Total-Privacy (dot) US

  • Guest

    In other possibly related news former president Chirac was handed a suspended sentence for corruption costing millions. Of course, abusing public office to steal real money is not as bad as non-commercial file sharing. France is really f–ked up.

  • townie2

    i guess it’s “do as i say, not as i do”.

  • http://twitter.com/marduk191 marduk191

    YouHaveDownloaded.com is an illegal website in a good majority of countries under the national privacy acts. An IP is even considered privileged information in some countries. Publicly displaying a database like this will land them in prison if they ever touch EU/Swiss/polish etc. soil for sure.The information isn’t even accurate in most cases to begin with, spotty at best.It doesn’t have to be accurate to be illegal to publish, and inaccurate information is defamation in any country that would care about this. I have to say that this is the first story I’ve seen here that is just jibberish spouted from some idiots mouth.

    • Anonymous

      At least they’re not evil, or trying to sue us with the information.

      • http://twitter.com/marduk191 marduk191

        There is no evidence to support your claim. There is evidence that a media group could use this as a “third party confirmation” though. In the countries that it isn’t illegal to collect and publicly display personally identifiable information, en mass, or alone, anyway.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          When you go out there your ip is public. Face it or hide it.

          And while the media may use the info on the site to go after [insert ip number here] the same can be said about us going after their hypocrisy.

    • Bungdaf

      Youhavedownloaded is not illegal. Bittorrent swarms where this data is gathered are public resources. To say that Tracking bittorrent swarms is illegal in europe is just crazy, all countries this is fine, look at all the lawsuits! Are you saying when a tracker offers its scrape URL along with IP address and the hashes its illegal? because thats where this data must come from.

      • http://twitter.com/marduk191 marduk191

        That’s not the point, collecting and publicly displaying the data is the point.

        • Daxsa2

          collecting public data and displaying it publicly?… is that your point?

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          That. Your IP is PUBLIC. Get over it. Or get a VPN.

    • Kr0nz

      By your logic BitTorrent swarms themselves are illegal, and just about every single p2p file sharing protocol out there (copyrighted or not).

      Using BitTorrent, along with other p2p protocols, has already broadcasted your IP to the public.
      You, along with most other P2P users out there, were just too ignorant to realize that.

    • Christophe Thomas

      dont get your panties twisted – you are plain wrong my friend – collecting and publising IPs is down a zillion times every minute – it s so obvious I won’t even argue it. (btw there is a reason that stuff is called “public IP” – well it is public).

    • Anonymous

      I don’t see how this is illegal. If I generate 16 random numbers between 2 and 200 and display them in dot-separated groups of 4 with some info like this:
      27.38.111.52 with ISP CHINA UNICOM SHENZHEN CITY NETWORK
      187.173.55.82 with ISP UNINET S.A. DE C.V
      110.79.61.80 with ISP HKNET COMPANY LIMITED
      147.65.114.57 with ISP INSTITUTO DE MATEMATICA PURA E APLICADA

      Did I illegally display IP addresses with personal data?
      According to you I did. The information displayed on the website haveyoudownloaded.com is obtained through unreliable sources and can only display the IP they detected which is in many cases dynamic, making the data as valuable in court as the random data I just posted.

      Number source: http://www.random.org/integers/?num=16&min=2&max=200&col=4&base=10&format=html&rnd=new
      ISP source: http://www.ip2location.com/demo

  • Blandal

    They are not based in the EU but in Russia, and aren’t subject to the EU’s crazy privacy law. If information is public there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. And EU law is idiotic for trying to force “privacy” onto information someone has willing given up. And no a person is not an IP address, and there is no defamation in claiming that an IP may have downloaded something.

  • Gaiax_shinji

    Anti-sharing (or anti-piracy as they want to call it) movement is no-sense. Everybody does it. Its called progress.

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  • Anonymous

    i just wonder what he is going to say to this, if anything at all? will he deny it? will he say he had permission? will he say it wasn’t him? will he say his wifi was unprotected? will he say his wifi was hacked? will he say his wifi was spoofed? will he say an IP address isn’t a person? will he say that an IP address is only linked to the ISP account holder, it doesn’t link to the infringer? any and all of these reasons have been totally discounted for everyone else that has simply been accused and not proven of ‘file sharing’ as reasons for not being sued, so why apply them to him?

    • Anonymous

      This will at least make them look.

      In this case it may be possible to run a Freedom of Information request to discover if any of these IPs did actually contain infringing material.

  • As

    each person is liable for his internet connection , no matter if hacked or any other shit , Now democracy say that Sarkozy should face the ridiculous 5 year jail + the ridiculous million of dollars as damage .

    • YarickZan

      Democracy says it, but the ruling political elite say they don’t live by the law. There is a two tier justice system in western society these days. Everyone is equal before the law provided you aren’t rich, white, or in politics. There’s a good old boys club, and most of us aren’t in it.

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  • Anonymous

    Nothing would surprise me these days.

    I actually think that the most interesting news out of France currently is that this HADOPI organization is now conducting research to see how much file sharing has really affected the market. Better late than never there to find out if there is actually a valid reason to justify the law they have been running for a while now and we all know the answer to that one.

    Studies are also being done in the UK and the USA. Strangely enough in the USA they have to report their findings within 6 months but with SOPA/PIPA going through Congress now then the research to show if a law has juxt cause may only come 6 months after the law is actually passed! At least they are asking the right questions prior unlike for HADOPI and the DEA.

    So in a few months from now these Governments will reveal the market facts and how file sharing has changed the game. Of course if there is no real damage found and file sharing was actually productive then this would highlight that they are running the wrong laws.

    • StevO

      We would never find out the results. And it wouldn’t change a thing. You already know this, and I’m not arguing with you anyhow. The MPAA and RIAA already know what they are after, and they wont stop till its complete. Its a usleless struggle for us common people.

      • Anonymous

        I am fairly optimistic.

        Such results could well stop them attacking file sharers and to put their efforts into those that profit from it. I am pessimistic though of achieving large law changes which would require changing international copyright treaties.

        What makes me most hopeful is that politics is starting to realise that the copyright side has been lying to them for decades and going down this ever stricter enforcement route is only taking everyone to a dark creepy place that few would want to be.

        Them seeking independent research is a good sign. Had they done it the old way they would just listen to the false economic reports the copyright side likes to attach to new bills.

        It is fair to say that if the laws are not achieving the desired result, and vast volumes are defying the law, then it is time to reconsider the situation.

  • Jigsy

    Would somebody be so kind as to find out what Downing Street and Buckingham Palace have been torrenting?

  • http://Operation-DarkSky.askaboutit.com Needlez™

    http://www.youhavedownloaded.com isn’t illegal. Maybe unethical, but not illegal. Most of the results are false positives and most people who know how to use BT the right way won’t ever get caught. There are lots of ways to encrypt information even though most people only think of VPNs and Proxies. Most of these are good examples of how the system the they show is flawed. Another good example besides that is spoofing which Ninja said is probably true. Other things are like mirroring fake IP’s, using undetected client software, false injection streams, taking someone else’s internet connection and using it and giving yourself their IP and kicking them. Deauthing. And lots more. Most of what I say falls under the spoofing category. The site is doing nothing wrong by posting IPs out in Public because in all cases your IP isn’t sensitive information. It can be if you have encrypted your IP or if you use a service that says that your IP can’t be released without a warrant, but saying that I can’t use a public service to find a public record of you is asinine. It’s legal quit your bitching and go pay for stuff like everybody else if your scared of this site and its operations.

  • LOLZ-FRANCE-U-FROG

    6 infringements of each $250,000 === $1,500,000 fine please or you face prison time and cut off from the Internet.

    I’d like to see any of those hypocrit fucks try to sue their own right hand for copyright infringement. Has the french press even reported of this yet or are large sums being handed over from the administration to every news corporation in France? This is where they show their true face as double standard hypocrit motherf*ckers

  • Mid
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  • Kitlope

    lol vtwincube is famous!

  • http://twitter.com/TPBGirl TPBGirl

    Please oh please somebody run the Whitehouse/Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reied through the website!! WE NEED there IPs!

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  • Jimbo

    i hope there is a big story in the press over this. the entertainment industries are quick enough to get it into print whenever a so-called ‘pirate’ is busted or someone is fined/imprisoned because their teenager shared a music file.Sarkozy deserves the same amount of attention and punishment as he demands is given to everyone else!

    • Anonymous

      The only way the major news organizations would pick up this story is if these computer’s were searched and infringing material was found. Right now you have maybe 66% odds that these findings are true and that is simply not good enough to make serious claims against someone.

      A wise person would change the tracking system. Right now they just see what IPs join a swarm and not that they are infringing which allows false IPs to be inserted. So for much more accurate proof they need to receive data packets from these IPs which when compared match infringing data. Once you can prove an IP is infringing then the burden is on them to explain what happened.

      • StevO

        Yeah what we need to do is FLOOD the damn swarms without infringing. Join the swarm and turn off downloading. Your there but not doing anything. Millions and millions of people in the swarm. Make chaos!

  • IDIOCRACY

    Still… the info from the HOAX website is even when correct unusable due to the lack of information on the amount of bites down i.e. uploaded, if the IP were only in the swarm but no actual data was transmitted than protocol, then the IP is not even an acomplice in the possible copyright infringment (by others wrongfully mentioned as stealing hehe) So I really do not believe (understatement) that the mentioned HOAX websie has anything to do with any possible police investigation.

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  • Prick

    TF’s standard has fallen through the floor of the basement. Yet another article based on results thrown up by that ridiculously unreliable site.

  • Ittybittyboat

    >The difference is, however, YHD aren’t using their data for the filing of lawsuits and getting people cut off from the Internet.
    At least not yet. I’m interested to see what they’ll do with the information gathered from their “removal requests.” I’m also curious about why torrentfreak hasn’t investigated / inquired about the terms of those requests yet.

    • Anonymous

      i dont suppose any of the entertainment industries collection agencies have threatened them yet. perhaps they will have a different outlook once there is a threat of a law suit (or some cash on the table).

  • StevO

    Would FLOODING swarms be any good? Like join a file but not download or upload? Just put millions of IPs in the same place? Anyone know what I mean? Would that create chaos? Just asking.

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  • Sarkozy

    Fuck the french. Nazi collaborators and now can’t follow their own fucking stupid rules. No doubt Sarkozy will claim “stupidity” and “IP spoofing”

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  • http://twitter.com/hysteribox Maha Vira

    I’m french and we know for long time that our president likes the Beach Boys. ;)

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  • LolAsdOmgWtfAfk

    YouHaveDownloaded is not reliable. Simply, it doesn’t work.

    • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

      It IS reliable – for STATIC IP:s! Most people have dynamic IP:s.

      • Prick

        I have static IP and I got 100% false positives. Not reliable at all.

        • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

          How long have you had it? Open WiFi? Shared?
          Oh, almost forgot: Many trackers generate random IP:s to mess with antipirates, your IP could have been one of those.

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  • Ur

    It’s a huge palace, must have been some bored security guard or cleaner who did the downloading.

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  • Bnastyproduce

    I think we should stop pussy-footing and do it like they do it. The president downloaded. Not some1 accesessing his ip or any convoluted crap. They can sue any1 based on an IP therefor it was teh president himself and no other,

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    You guys amuse me. Even if this is hypocritical, he downloaded six tracks. Six. You really think that this is anything compared to the average pirate? 255 MBs. Come on.

    • Guest

      Each download counts as a lost sale which does incalculable damage to the industry (true story, ask any RIAA/MPAA representative who insists that the whole thing snowballs and adds up to cause our global recessions). For mathematics’ sake we’ll take it as infinity.

      Now, according to mathematics:
      6 tracks x infinity damage caused per track = infinity damage caused
      255 MBs of tracks x infinity damage caused per track = infinity damage caused

      The same amount of damage is caused, and worse still, it’s irreparable.

      You’ve consistently demanded your pound of flesh from pirates, so why not Sarkozy? Instead your first act is to blame the pirates. Yeesh.

    • Anonymous

      Ah, so in abandoning your previous line of logic you are now instead arguing that since some people in your view commit grand larceny it is quite ok, in your view, to commit petty theft as long as the “proper people” do it?

      From our point of view of course it’s the other way around – Mr. Sarkoszy should be allowed to share and upload, for private use, as much as he wants.

      Our problem here is your sudden insistence that the law of the land, unfair and insane as it may be is also applied differently depending on who actually breaks it.

      Shall we summarize your arguments for you? You think civil liberties should be bypassed for the citizenry of every nation as a casual side effect of enforcing copyright laws. Except if the breach is performed by a ranking politician.

      There are numerous cases in the US where sharing six files like this would give hundreds of thousands of dollars worth in claims in a civil lawsuit so the similarity fits well.

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  • lastchancelottery

    guillotine the bastard. modems not wep protected anyway, and its fibre optic, 100 films in ten minutes, not bad, but the films were crap

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  • WmDan

    Viva la France – non merci.

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  • daniel miralles

    Marrant de voir Geoffrey Transom continuer a donner des lecons de morale partout sur le net. S’il y a un voyou, menteur, parasite, vulgaire… c’est LUI. Geoffrey Transom.
    Condamne en France par le Tribunal Civil de Clermont Ferrand, expulse de France pour anti-semitisme et negationnisme. Il a vecu dans notre maison sans payer AUCUN loyer. Comme tous les laches de son espece, il se repand en unjures et diffamations sur internet… trop minable pour affronter ses victimes en face.
    Ce type est une anomalie de l’espece humaine.

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