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isoHunt Loses Appeal Against the MPAA, Keyword Filter Remains

IsoHunt lost its appeal against the MPAA today, with the Ninth Circuit upholding the 2010 ruling that the website does not qualify for safe harbor under the DMCA. The verdict means that isoHunt will have to keep filtering its search results. For the site’s users all will remain the same, as the site has been filtering keywords on a list provided by the MPAA since the initial injunction was issued.

isohuntAlmost three years ago the U.S. District Court of California ordered BitTorrent search engine isoHunt to start filtering its search results.

The injunction was the result of isoHunt’s protracted court battle with the MPAA that started back in 2006. The Court ordered the owner of isoHunt to start censoring the site’s search engine based on a list of thousands of keywords provided by the MPAA, or cease its operations entirely in the U.S.

isoHunt implemented the filter which allowed it to remain online, but at the same time owner Gary Fung took his case to the Court of Appeals. Through the appeal, isoHunt hoped to reverse the permanent injunction, but this didn’t come to pass.

Today, Ninth Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon upheld the injunction and the decision was outlined in a 59-page opinion.

The main conclusion is that isoHunt doesn’t qualify for safe harbor protection under the DMCA. One of the reasons is that isoHunt founder Gary Fung had so-called “red flag” knowledge of actual copyright infringements occurring through the site. Not least due through direct interaction with users.

“As noted, the record is replete with instances of Fung actively encouraging infringement, by urging his users to both upload and download particular copyrighted works, providing assistance to those seeking to watch copyrighted films, and helping his users burn copyrighted material onto DVDs,” Judge Berzon writes.

In addition the Judge concludes that there was financial benefit that could be directly tied to copyright infringements. For example, Fung used lists of typical user searches, including popular movies and TV-shows, to sell ad inventory. Adding to this, a very large part of the content shared through the site was copyrighted material, and more infringements led to more revenue.

As a result of the ruling isoHunt’s keyword filter will have to remain operational, along with its flaws. isoHunt founder Gary Fung informs TorrentFreak that for current users of the site nothing will change.

“As a search engine of links, we are not like Youtube or filelockers. We do not have the “right and ability to control”, short of censorship on search keywords, nor the ability to filter as the MPAA or the court suggests, as we don’t touch or host the actual content,” Fung told TorrentFreak.

The MPAA on their turn is happy with the verdict, which will strengthen their position in future lawsuits.

“This ruling affirms a core principle of copyright law: Those who build businesses around encouraging, enabling, and helping others to commit copyright infringement are themselves infringers, and will be held accountable for their illegal actions,” said the MPAA’s Henry Hoberman.

isoHunt, however, is not giving up just yet and will seek a rehearing en banc.

“We will seek rehearing en banc of the isoHunt Ninth Circuit opinion – inducement must be more than a gestalt standard especially when the Court is taking away a person’s right to a jury trial. Ambiguous copyright standards chill innovation,” isoHunt lawyers Ira Rothken says.

“This opinion amounts to little more than we think you were bad at some point in time and therefore you lose. The case ought to be heard by a jury,” Rothken adds.

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  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Wrong decision by the court, what a big surprise here. Investigations into the judges are warranted to see if they are being bribed by the MAFIAA.

    • Paul

      Why waste the time, money & effort investigating them for bribery? We all know they are paid puppets. IN GREED WE TRUST Hmmm….. A box of cartridges is cheaper & easier!

      • bobmail

        Another pirate suggesting violence. How nice.

        • MadAsASnake

          Well, under US gun law, they all have the right to carry heavy assault weapons and high capacity magazines in public. Endless school massacres don’t seem to be enough to prompt a little common sense. I find it funny, bobby, how this doesn’t seem to upset you, but people sharing things (as people do) does… yet this gets international swat teams, long sentences and oppressive laws. Well, I guess another school full of shot kids doesn’t hurt the MPAA’s bottom line.

        • BuddhaFacePalmed

          Or the NRA for that matter

    • millow

      the isohunt filter doesn’t seem to block much but if you want it unfiltered use http://anonymouse.org to access the site

      • ScrewEwe2

        For years I used to use IsoHunt all the time, and 3 years ago when the filtering for US IP’s was instituted, I just started using free proxy’s to access the site, problem solved. I applaud Gary Fung for sticking to his convictions without folding, because the MAFIAA would love to see him convicted.

        The MAFIAA hasn’t learned that if you put up a roadblock, people will just go over, around or under the roadblock. The site blocking going on in the UK is a huge joke that will only slow down the newest of noobs for a half hour or so.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Just went to IsoHunt, and they still link to Torrentbox. Forgot all about that site.

        • MadAsASnake

          Yes. It’s like a roadblock in a desert. THe assumption is that nobody leaves the road. The trails of dust say otherwise.

        • bobmail

          Yup, and yet people are yelling CENSORSHIP! But you and I both know the actual material is still there. It’s not censorship, thats for sure.

        • MadAsASnake

          Wrong. That is just incompetent censorship. Unfortunately however, while they generally fail on the objective, they usually succeed on the collatreral damage.

        • TheyAreCorrupt

          You might what to check your definition of censorship!

        • ScrewEwe2

          Very True.

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  • Pierat

    even tho I disagree with this. like its hurting my sharing in any way. I don’t use ISOHUNT. so I wind again MPAA. but all I can say is keep pushing and just watch what happens.

    • justathought

      First they came for the communists,and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.
      Then they came for the socialists,and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.
      Then they came for the trade unionists,and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
      Then they came for me,and there was no one left to speak for me.”

      At some point itll get round to us, question is, will you care now, or will you care later

      • Who

        maybe he don’t care because sharing should have never went public in the 1st place regardless of what the law says, as you know that the entertainment industries would bitch anyway.

    • One-Eyed Willie

      Does not make a bit of difference to me. What do you need isohunt for when you know all the sites to go to any way? Plus isohunt does not search private trackers, which is what you should be using if you have half a brain.

  • Anyone

    sucks for isohunt and for the US in general

    another industry is being forced out of the US

    • bobmail

      “industry”?

      What industry is that exactly, pirate sites and sites that profit from piracy?

      Let them leave. I doubt the owners will want to give up their comfy US lives for living in a third world country just to avoid prosecution.

      • Anyone

        the tech industry

        you can’t offer index or storage sites in the US without bending over and getting fucked by the MAFIAA it seems, so more and more companies will move to more free countries and startups will also happen more in those countries than the US

        the MAFIAA is stifling progress to the detriment of all of us

      • Who

        “comfy US lives” WTF are you talking about? its a pain in the fucking ASS to live in the US.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          For anyone except the exceedingly wealthy, yep, it is.

      • xult

        Get a life you fucking idiot.
        Stop spamming websites with your Troll garbage.
        Get a job, get of the sofa and stop wasting our time.

      • indiagrt

        man wht the fuck you talk abt .. comfy US life.. yaa the Americans have comfy live becoz of third world countries.. lets say when chinese and Indians stop working our ass out for fucking Americans … wee will at tht time who has the comfy life……

  • Freedom

    “Ambiguous copyright standards chill innovation.”

    Thank you! Common sense, it seems, is not completely written off; there are still individuals who are keen.

    Sharing is caring and IT IS how society has progressed from the age of neanderthals to the modern age, like it or not. It seems, however, with the demise of common sense, that we are headed back in reverse, as a global society.

    Good luck Mr. Fung and Mr. Rothken on your future battles. Wish you the best!

    • capitol

      Mr Rothken has still got a battle going on with the Megaupload case and this ruling will not help matters in that on going case. Its a wonder Isohunt didn’t get its company shutdown and servers and assets seized. I wish Megaupload every success with getting its case dismissed.

      • dondilly

        As isohunt is essentially just a search engine, demanding implementation of a censorship word list goes way beyond what would be expected of Google.

        As for helping some newb burn a dvd image, that is generic info irrespective of the content’s copyright status.

        • Guest321

          Google is already having to butcher their search index thanks to the MAFIAA sending a million takedown notices every week including a horde of false ones. The way its going, very soon Google might be asked to implement a word filter as well unless they stand up for themselves and do something about it.

        • dondilly

          Google isn’t censoring search terms. They are removing p2p related terms from the auto search suggestions as you type and they are heavily weighting results.

          Filtering words from search terms is way too broad. Think of the problems arising from word based port filters that wipe Scunthorpe off the map and bird references to the blue title and robbing red breast disappear.

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  • capitol

    “”The Court ordered the owner of isoHunt to start censoring
    the site’s search engine based on a list of thousands of keywords
    provided by the MPAA, or cease its operations entirely in the U.S.”"

    If I were IsoHunt I would cease operation in the US entirely that way the US would not be able to shut the business but I bet that wouldn’t stop Hollywood from greasing up a few palms with big brown envelopes of cash to the anti-priacy groups in other countries to pursue legal action in that country on their behalf. It will not stop Hollywood and the US with persuing IsoHunt if it didn’t operate in the US at all.

  • icec0ld

    US complains about businesses leaving the US for better pastures.

    Spends time and money forcing an industry out of the US. Gratz guys. It’s like they want to default on the already insane loans they have.

    • MadAsASnake

      US is fabulous at this. Put up really hostile trade barriers and complain when the business goes elsewhere.

  • Who

    here is an idea for ISOHUNT…..just go privet.

    • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

      What, and hedge their bets? Good idea.

      • Pierat

        it would keep them from have to deal with the MPAA’s BS.

        • Anyone

          it really wouldn’t

          “private” doesn’t work

        • Who

          O.o O really?

          I bet you and many others don’t even know about half of the private sites that I am on. so how don’t that work when no one knows about them?

          Y do you think open sites are getting targeted? cause they can’t find or get in to the private sites to target them and its NOT just torrent sites that are private.
          none of the private sites that I am on have ever been targeted and they have been around for LONGER than some of the open sites.

      • dondilly

        I think your sense of humour went over their heads dude.

    • Who

      excuse me let me do a spelling correction here……”PRIVATE”

  • bobmail

    They weren’t ordered to “censor” the site, they were ordered to filter the site based on the law and legal rulings.

    Censorship is the last “hot button word” for the piracy supporters, trying to couch everything negative that happens as censorship. Well, I guess then the law also censors child porn and hate messages too. Oh, the shame for censorship!

    • iMeZiV0x

      So, BobbyBoo, in your opinion a site that allows people free choice to type in what ever they want which may or may not produce infringing material is the responsibility of the site owner? The site owner is responsible for the text a user types? A site owner is responsible “as encouraging piracy” based on results that are stored in a separate location on the internet? Please, I’m intrigued. Give it your best shot.

    • Guest321

      Yeah because Child porn is the same as sharing culture…*rolls eyes*. Logic, Bobby…do you ever use it? Oh right I forgot, you get paid to sprout nonsense. And censoring hate messages is also censorship because its a very good way for government to shut people up who speak against them and keep the whistle blowers under the lid.

      • MadAsASnake

        And copyright infringement is the same as terrorism if it gets you the swat team.

    • UraPhake

      You say potayto, I say potahto.
      “Censor” versus “Filter” — the result is the exact same thing. You’re blocking information based on a set of “rules” instituted by an outside control set.

      You’re even more dense than Kevin Mitnick said you were.

      • bobmail

        Actually, no information is blocked, as the original information is still there (the torrent). Censorship would be that torrent removed from the internet, and for it to be the only source for that material. Basically, removing even the full torrent file isn’t censorship, because the works are generally still available.

        It’s hard to imagine that you cannot grasp that simple concept. I doubt as a result that you could even actually hold a conversation with Kevin without him laughing at you.

        • bobmailsucks-censored-

          Yea sure… because North Korea doesn’t have censorship because the information is actually out there still…

        • bobmail

          North Korea has plenty of censorship. However, making IsoHunt filter out certain search terms isn’t censorship, because the speech continues to exist in whole.

          Removing a pirated copy of a movie, example, isn’t censorship – the movie still exists.

          Removing a pirate song doesn’t censor it – it only removed a pirated copy.

          in both cases, the speech is protected, and perhaps protected more, working to assure that more of said speech can occur in the long run.

          Censorship would be making the song unavailable in all ways. There is clearly no censorship here. Illegal speech has no first amendment protections anyway.

        • Guest321

          Clearly logic is not your strong suit, Bobby. Why am I not surprised? Illegal speech? There is nothing called “illegal speech” in a free country. Any and all information should be freely accessible to the public. If any information is blocked, that is the very definition of censorship. Society can only move forward when information is available to the public and not restricted to the privileged few whose only intention is to make money off it.

        • Truth

          “Censorship is the suppression of speech or other public communication”

          That includes searching, as “I want a coffee please” does not entail a physical object whereas filtering the word “coffee” does prevent one from obtaining such object. Similarly, blocking words in a search engine hinders freedom of speech by preventing one from obtaining information.

          How much do you get paid? Really, how much do you get paid for spreading these lies and propaganda? A clear-minded non-corrupt person would never make such wrong statements as you do. Do you even realize who you’re working for? Who you’re defending? Hence, you’re trading in your OWN rights just to act as a slave of the copyright industry.

        • UraPhake

          By your “logic” (lol), then a redacted document is not censored. The info still exists — somewhere. You just cannot discern it.

          It’s hard to imagine that you cannot grasp…much of anything, really.

    • Typhoid Mary

      Only you in your psychotic fixated hatred for file-sharers would equate it to Child Porn. I have this sick feeling that very subject is on your mind more than we care to imagine.

    • joexxx

      Do you know what the word “censor” means? Look it up and understand it.

      Laws can censor as well. These laws should not stand.

      That’s right, laws should not censor child porn and hate messages because the concepts are not well defined.

      • bobmail

        Censorship would exist only if said content was not available at all. To merely have a torrent site not list copyright material isn’t censorship, as the material is still available.

        It’s on par with saying “this store cannot sell newspapers” because of zoning restrictions. It doesn’t censor the news, the papers are still widely available.

        You guys are confusing “we can’t get it how we want it when we want it and totally for free” with censorship (not available at all, blocked, and cannot be heard or seen).

        It’s fun to watch this become the latest fad term, considering that the “free speech” thing has recently come crashing down on your heads.

        • BuddhaFacePalmed

          No, it’s not.

          To use your analogy, removing torrent sites for listing copyright material is akin to closing whole stores for selling newspaper. Then force people to buy newspaper at a marked up price of 500% and set burly men to watch you while you read the newspaper. Then, depending on the geography of where you were reading the newspaper, these men would actually take away your newspaper when you reach a piece of news that is “unsavoury” to the current administration.

          Add on the fact that the stores selling newspapers are few and hard to access, congratulations. Baghdad bobmail, you have achieved the state of the Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea, every dictator’s wet dream.

          Insert ‘common sense’ token to try again, Baghdad bobfail

        • bobmail

          “To use your analogy, removing torrent sites for listing copyright material is akin to closing whole stores for selling newspaper. Then force people to buy newspaper at a marked up price of 500% and set burly men to watch you while you read the newspaper. ”

          I am blown away by what you think is going on. It’s almost mind numbing to see how much you have pushed yourself in a dark place thinking burly men are watching you.

          Further, your analogy goes way past reality and into a self service piece of stupidity that has no bearing on what I was talking about at all.

          If something is still widely available (and for that matter, even the original torrents are available) then tell me please WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN CENSORED? What can you not see? What speech is no longer available? What movie or music can you suddenly not obtain?

          There is no censorship. Filtering, perhaps. That is a different story.

          The rest of your rant (including dragging the spectre of North Korea into the game) is so fucking laughable as to be beyond comprehension. Anger management may be your issue here.

        • Ididbobmailsmom

          “I am blown away by what you think is going on.”

          Tell us, what IS going on?

          “It’s almost mind numbing to see how much you have pushed yourself in a dark place thinking burly men are watching you.”

          Well yeah, considering the copyright industry can easily monitor what we do on the Internet and act on it, as is the case with the Six Strikes scheme. This paranoia is actually caused by a true scheme of corruption on your side, bobmail.

          “Further, your analogy goes way past reality and into a self service piece of stupidity that has no bearing on what I was talking about at all.”

          That’s what I think each time I read one of your comments.

          “If something is still widely available (and for that matter, even the original torrents are available) then tell me please WHAT EXACTLY HAS BEEN CENSORED?”

          So, if millions of people say something, and only few of these people are censored by not being allowed to say something or being actively neglected, then it’s not censorship?

          That’s like saying you’d shut down the entire P2P protocol and say “Well it’s still widely available. Come purchase it for a highly margined price at our overly expensive store!” Oh wait.. that’s EXACTLY what you want.

          “There is no censorship. Filtering, perhaps. That is a different story.”

          Filtering IS censorship by definition. Damn you’re retarded.

          “Anger management may be your issue here.”

          At least he’s not corrupted and free to express himself.

        • bobmail

          Huge answer, no content. You didn’t answer the question: where is the censorship? The speech in legal forms still exists, and is widely available. Nothing was censored. So where is the censorship?

        • Anyone

          the problem is that I can’t get my bluray rips in a legal way

          sure, I could buy the bluray, but then I would have to also buy a bluray player and go through the trouble of ripping the bluray myself

          as long as piracy offers a superior service regardless of price the MAFIAA will not get my business

        • joexxx

          When you understand what the word means, you’ll be able to answer your own question.

        • MadAsASnake

          Arbitrarily deciding who can, and who can not see something is censorship. If you don’t want it in the public domain, don’t put it in the public domain.

        • guest

          maybe TF should just ban bobfail…..after all, he wouldn’t be considered as being censored since he’s free to troll on elsewhere xD

        • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

          Copyright was not even intended or should never been used for infringment.
          Copyright infringment is the one hurting the economy and their own pockets.

          Read: People who download low-quality movies eventually either BUY the movie in DVD/BluRay, or would not, mostly because it sucked…
          There are also people who do not have the money for it, or the price is out of line.

          Basically, the copyright-industry is fucked up.

        • joexxx

          False. Censorship can be partial or it can be total.
          Again, you need to look up the meaning of the term and how it used.
          Reading books helps in that respect.

    • MadAsASnake

      No, the word list is straight out of Chris Dodd’s ass. And key word filters don’t work in the way MPAA says they do. They inteefere with a lot of legitimate stuff and largely fail to do as intended.

    • Liam JH

      Fuck off bob, retarded argument, filtering is censoring, and the lowest of the low – getting the kiddie diddler argument in as well.
      Truly bob, you need a holiday again.

    • Truth

      Blocking words is censorship PER DEFINITION. Retard.

  • JohnGaspardo

    “The really dangerous American fascist… is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power… They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.” Henry A. Wallace
    New York Times, April 9, 1944

    • Otherbook

      “These are the rules of big business. They have superseded the teachings of our parents and are reducible to a simple maxim: Get a monopoly; let Society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics, for a legislative grant, franchise, subsidy or tax exemption is worth more than a Kimberly or Comstock lode, since it does not require any labor, either mental or physical, for its exploitation.”
      –Frederick C. Howe, in Confessions of a Monopolist (1906)

      • manik

        Guess what will happen when billion peoples will realize the truth , when they will see dirty face of system , when they will stop to belive lies like – freedom, justice etc etc

      • Boring Phil

        “In a closed society where everybody’s guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.”
        - Hunter S Thompson

    • xut

      I feel really sorry for Mr Fung.
      He has screwed up his own websites to comply with
      this stupid ruling.
      Spent thousands defending his position.

      Hexagon was withdrawn.
      After barring USA citizens from accessing it thus losing a good
      bunch of fellows.

      Isohunt has now got so much garbage,
      try to find a decent download.
      After all of this he gets kicked in the teeth.
      My advice Mr Fung.
      Stuff em.

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        Spam fuck

  • FenkZenk

    I dont know about you but that really annoys me dude.

    Anon-Today.tk

  • foff

    Another example of fucking left wing judges legislating from the bench. What fucking law requires censorship and who the fuck is the mpaa to issue a list of terms. If the judges think it ought to censored then they ought to do the work and censor. The mpaa is not a government agency where the hell did they get the right to be the official us censor. Mr fung you need a better lawyer.

    I almost never use isohunt and I have a work around for the censor. It is called a proxy duh!

    This judgement is really annoying as it seems the mpaa is slowing gaining control over the internet. I mean when fuck is someone going to tell them to fuck off and shove their inducement argument up their asses?

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      you just did it

  • Violated0

    Sounds to me like isoHunt needs to he taken over by another company under a new manager. Shut down the initial operation and use assets to begin a totally new operation.

    Then the new service would fall under DMCA safe-harbour with none of the old manager’s flaws meaning the keyword filter can be scrapped.

    That is easier than fighting uphill battles in the appeal courts.

    • MadAsASnake

      I thought DMCA applied to the content itself, not to the links. It’s a distinction lost on many judges and deliberately abused by many copyright maximalists. MPAA and RIAA where careful to use overly broad and/or incorrect definitions when they penned DMCA – they should have to live with that – not get to reinterpret it each day to “it means whatever we want it to now”.

      • bobmail

        DMCA applies in the manner that anyone in the chain who has the ability to limit or stop the copyright violation, if not done at the source, needs to take action or risk being considered part of the infringement itself.

        So, hosting companies, bandwidth providers, and the like are all directly on the hook if the site in question is non-responsive. Most sites are hosted by companies who are not willing to take a bullet to defend piracy, so they take action.

        Search engines, particularly ones that are very narrowly focused on torrents is a perfect place for links to infringing work to be removed. Just like Google, a listing would make a major difference. Remember, if there were no torrent search sites, how would most people find torrents? They wouldn’t. Thus, they have the power to change how much infringment goes on, and are subject to DMCA.

        It’s actually surprising that nobody has gone after them too hard for trademark stuff as well. That is a whole different game, without DMCA – just big, big lawsuits.

        • MadAsASnake

          Well, if they aren’t in the US, they aren’t under DMCA. and it is fascinating that safe harbour regulations are so blythely pushed aside. DMCA = bad unenforceable law written by bad people. Most companies do take notice of extrajudicial military threats like the mega takedown. That does not make them remotely acceptable.

        • joexxx

          In that case, the rights holder also violates DMCA because he starts the chain by creating a work that is pirated.

          Torrent does not contain any infringing information. On the contrary, it is a piece of intellectual property in itself. Torrent search engine does not contain any infringing information.

          It is the sole responsibility of the copyright owner to defend and protect their copyright, not of anybody else.

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      that’s is an interesting concept. it would work too, and yet it would be better to remain the same and fight in the courts i suppose they would say ay IH.

  • MadAsASnake

    And why should the MPAA have the right to create that list of words? And what idiocy? In a rich language, word use is subtle and varied. Key word filters gaurantee a large crop of both false negatives (ie, it doesn’t actually work that well) and false positives (ie collateral damage – or as is becoming very clear, intentional censorship).

  • http://www.facebook.com/bob.bundee.1 Bob Bundee

    getting closer

  • http://www.facebook.com/bob.bundee.1 Bob Bundee

    ISOHUNT…

    wasn’t that like 3yrs ago?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bob.bundee.1 Bob Bundee

    why isn’t my voice heard?

    ISOHUN T?

  • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

    Linking to a torrent thats not even hosted by themselfs, saying it’s “facilitating”… The fuck.
    There are “easier” ways to get the files you want, a torrent tracker is basically a search engine, by far a “facilitation” to download files.
    You still need a 3rd party application, and the connection.

    I wonder until someone comes up with the fact that the whole internet should be taken down, since it facilitates in sharing ANY FILE that is possible…
    But then they come ofcourse with a other reason why the internets isn’t facilitating.

    It’s so retarded.

  • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

    Copyright is a farce by big proportions.
    It’s been given life to prevent people using someone else’s idea, it was never or should never been used for “infringment”

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  • bobmail

    “Ambiguous copyright standards chill innovation”

    What’s ambiguous about “don’t link to infringing content”?

    • Anyone

      content that is “infringing” in one country is perfectly legal in another

      if you have a problem with the content, talk to the one hosting the content, not to the one linking to it

      all linking should be perfectly legal, no matter what it links to, otherwise the internet will break

      • Guest321

        Besides the links can change anytime when the source material changes. A fully legal link today can turn into an illegal link tomorrow without the linking site knowing about it.

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    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      if i called you a wanker, would that be rude enough?

  • Jack Ryan

    DMCA can lick my b@lls.

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      and then for me some rimming, they can have a tea break after that

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  • TheDoctour

    Censorship: The practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts.

    Censor:

    1. A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.

    2. An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and
    official dispatches to remove information considered secret or a risk to
    security.

    3. One that condemns or censures.

    I am not going to debate the legality of piracy on this one. The reason I put the above is because what I have seen posted about this not being censorship at all on the part of one poster.

    By definition (As noted by others as well.) a word filter on searches, issuing taken down notices without regards to content, and the ability to monitor everything I do in the realm of communications to later be used against me is censorship.

    To illustrate this point, I could easily raise the spectres of North Korea, Chairman Mao and China, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and his Nazis, a host of others in fact.

    However, this should sound familiar for a reason much closer to home. If you have studied American history to any degree, it will.

    The Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798.

    Not all of the four bills under this heading apply, but the Sedition portion does. The history of the time was tense I agree, but it illustrates what is going on now. Read up on it, and see how this parallels what is going on.

    I do not have a reference to cite, but I have heard it somewhere that Thomas Jefferson (Then Vice-President) would not even sign his own letters for fear that his mail was being read by Federalist post masters looking to turn people in under the Sedition Act.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

    if the governments of the world could tax torrents and other file sharing methods none of this shit would be happening.

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  • Lewis

    The government and big business will eventually stitch us all up. Money is power and people are easily corrupted!

    • joexxx

      Are you talking about yourself?

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