Jericho Season 2 Leaks on BitTorrent
Written by Ernesto on January 13, 2008The first three episodes of CBS’s TV-series “Jericho” have leaked to BitTorrent a month before its official premiere date. The popular show was initially canceled last year, but after several protests from angry fans CBS decided to revive it. Nuts!
To most fans it came as quite a shock when CBS announced the cancellation of Jericho March last year. The show had a huge fanbase, and several blogs and communities organized protests to revive the show.
Jeff Braverman, one of the most loyal fans, even went as far as dumping 5,000 pounds of nuts at the CBS offices in New York. CBS’s Vice President of Communications, Chris Ender said that the Jericho protests were the biggest they’d ever seen: “It’s been an impressive display of passion from a loyal audience. You have to tip your hat to their ability to get attention and make some noise.”
Initially CBS, who donated the nuts to charities, wasn’t planning on reviving the show, but after more fans went nuts they eventually did. The official premiere date of the second season was set for February 12, 2008, but today, several weeks before the planned return, the first three episodes of season 2 (ripped from a promotional DVDscreener) are already uploaded to several BitTorrent sites. Perhaps the recent leaks are a gift to the dedicated fans of the show?
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time that TV-shows were leaked on purpose. Last fall an unusually large number of pre-air TV shows appeared on BitTorrent sites, in some cases several months before their scheduled air dates. Many of those leaks appear to be inside jobs, and TV executives are starting to realize that leaking shows to BitTorrent can help promote them.
Whether Jericho was leaked on purpose remains unclear, but I guess the thousands of fans who already downloaded the show today don’t really care where it came from.
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here we go…
http://www.rlslog.net/jericho-s02e01-readnfo-dvdscr-xvid-bsgtv-e02-e03/
hahahaha… to bad for them.
Jericho will never see Season 3 if people don’t watch it somewhere besides here. We need ratings for these first 3 eps.
NUTS!!!!!!!!!
I’m not going to watch the leaked episodes, because as Jane said, it needs to be watched somewhere where CBS can see statistics.
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The first three episodes were provided via DVD screener to key TV critics and reporters. My guess is that’s where the leak originated. I can’t imagine anyone doing this deliberately.
If you want the show to survive, watch it on the network, not on the torrents.
“If you want the show to survive, watch it on the network, not on the torrents.”
I’m sorry, but thats bs.
Btw, you seem to be yet another person that still thinks the world is flat (aka “besides the US there is nothing else out there …”).
ded show should stay ded
Yeey… now… where do I get em…?
This is great, but keep in mind the only way to have more than the 7 episodes scheduled is to give the show good ratings.
Watch it on torrents, but also on TV and buy the DVD if you have the money (and like the show, obviously).
The only people who really need to watch the show on broadcast TV are the “Nielsen Families”.
They’re the only ones who actually count towards ratings, Joe Q. Public makes no difference whatsoever - until it hits DVD of course.
“I’m sorry, but thats bs. Btw, you seem to be yet another person that still thinks the world is flat (aka ‘besides the US there is nothing else out there’).”
Not at all. What I am here to tell you (hear me or don’t) is that if enough people don’t watch the show ON THE NETWORK, it will cease to exist. Nielsen ratings may be an outdated system, but it is still how TV shows live and die. In that sense, the world is still “flat.”
Again I say, if you want the show to survive, watch it on the network. Bravo for the torrents, but they accomplish nothing for the program.
Exactly, don’t bother watching it on TV unless you know a Nielsen family then get them to watch it! TV is lower quality and has commercials, why would we do that? Do buy the DVD though.
@12, i didn’t mean to agree with you, your post just came before mine, but why would you still think that people who don’t have a nielsen box make any difference where they watch the show? Does it hurt too, to use Tivo and skip the commercials in your world?
I generally watch TV shows live, so I rarely skip the commercials (but hit the “mute” button once in a while). Without commercials, there would be no television as we know it. You might want to try supporting some of the show’s sponsors.
And I agree — if you don’t have a Nielsen box, you don’t count. But project current behavior forward, and in twenty years, there will be no more network television.
All the episodes (1-3) have been downloaded, tested and reuploaded on various sites.
For the links check out http://www.telly-talk.co.uk/jericho-downloads
FTFA “To most fans it came as quite a shock when CBS announced the cancellation of Jericho March last year. ”
Nobody on the IMDB boards was shocked. I quit watching when it became obvious the focus was soap rather than actual story.
Damn, more decent shows get ruined with these silly sub plots that end up drowning out the original stories that made them watchable to begin with.
Love this show, glad to get to see these episodes early. I wonder if these “leaks” are actually done by the studio themselves to help create a buzz about the show.. Just remember to watch it on tv when its on so it don’t get canceled again.
Is there a stream of this anywhere?
i don’t think there is supposed to be a S03, the reason S02 is only 7 episodes is to make an ending.. so i assume it will end pretty “well”, i.e bad guys dead and good guys alive..
This got me a little worried, as 3 episodes is almost half the freaking season (total of 7 episodes)…
I do hope that the leak will revive that crazy internet blietz again. When we worked for Jericho to return, I think almost the “entire internet” knew about the campaign. I hope this time the “entire internet” (and ofc the general population in america) starts blitzing the internet with jericho postings and interest again.
And of course I hope that some of you out there will also stream the episodes on CBS.com after the official air. That way we at least give them something in return for un-cancelling our favorite show. You don’t even have to watch it, just stream a few episodes while you do something else.
And of course if you are a Nielsen household: Watch it live!!
As for if the leak was intended… I don’t think so. One episode I could believe, but not 3 out of a total of 7.
This is good - because what needs to happen in order for this show to get the ratings it needs, is for it to get attention. And this is a good way of doing that.
Now, everyone who downloads this - REMEMBER to set your TIVOs and whatnot to record the show when it airs, and if you’re in a Nielsen family (which I doubt, but OK) *TUNE IN*. Also, if you know anyone in a Nielsen household - make sure they know of the show and knows how important it is to make sure those Nielsen numbers are high.
Oh, and:
http://www.rlslog.net/jericho-s02e01-readnfo-dvdscr-xvid-bsgtv-e02-e03/
BSGTV is a scene group notorious for taking stuff leaked to *P2P*, modifying it slightly (so as to be in compliance with “scene rules”) and passing it off as their own within the scene. Please do note; this was NOT leaked to the scene, it was leaked to P2P.
Try watching in Oz. Local network yanked it and there is no sign of them even completing season 1.
#4 and #12 - Watching it on the network will not do ANY good at all. TV ratings are not provided by your cable company and they have no clue as to what you are tuned in to on your TV at any given moment. TV ratings are taken from surveys and samples of people.
from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Ratings
Measuring ratings
Nielsen Television Ratings are gathered by one of two ways; by extensive use of surveys, where viewers of various demographics are asked to keep a written record (called a diary) of the television programming they watch throughout the day and evening, or by the use of Set Meters, which are small devices connected to every television in selected homes. These devices gather the viewing habits of the home and transmit the information nightly to Nielsen through a “Home Unit” connected to a phone line. Set Meter information allows market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing the exact moment viewers change channels or turn off their TV. In addition to this technology, the implementation of individual viewer reporting devices (called people meters) allow the company to separate household viewing information into various demographic groups. In 2005, Nielsen began measuring the usage of digital video recordings (TiVo, for example) and initial results indicate that time-shifted viewing will have a significant impact on television ratings. The networks are not yet figuring these new results into their ad rates at the resistance of advertisers.[1]
Therefore watching the torrent is NOT going to affect the ratings (unless you have one of those boxes, which frankly, seems a bit big-brotherish).
Just watched the 3 eps. They were great ! Captivating as before. They didn’t hold back much on budget and they manage to keep most of the important characters.
Dear “Mookey”: This is #12 speaking. My guess is that I’ve been in the media longer than you’ve been alive. I have no need of your lecture, or the tutorial from anyone-can-write-it Wikipedia, one of the Internet’s great sources of misinformation (although they did get Nielsen more or less correct).
My point is this. Watch the damn network. If people don’t watch the network, there won’t be one. Then there will be no more shows (except on cable). And then you’ll have bad homemade YouTube videos for your torrents. Put that in your pipe and smoke it while you’re illegally downloading “Jericho.”
@17
Those “silly sub plots” as you call them are required for most episodic television these days. You can thank “The X Files” and similar series for bringing that delightful idea known as the “story arc” to American television and which now pervades almost every TV series. Even police procedurals like “CSI” and “Law and Order” have them.
Gone are the days of shows like “Gunsmoke” where they seemed to film the same exact script, with minor variations, over and over - just using different actors on the same set with the same costumes. Oh for the days of plots without any character development! We had to wait more than 20 years to see Marshall Dillon kiss Kitty. Now that’s what I call television!
Maybe good to tell next time what the series are about?, or an imdb links?
click the link for jericho in the article to view the wiki on the series if you want to know what its about
Brilliant episodes, 1,2,3.
The story is getting better and better..amazing series
deliberately leaked of course, but they now know from the comments on sites that this series is 2nd series is f’ing awesome…shame we have to wait a little longer for the 4 ep..
Neo
@26:
Sorry, but I’m not going to watch a show on a network for the sole purpose of keeping it alive when there is a superior distribution method available. Neither will I purchase a CRT monitor for my computer to keep Company X who refused to move on to LCD technology “alive.”
@31 <3 0wn3d!
I have started watching episode 2.1 and it is garbage….
absolute garbage….
it feels like a daytime soap…….
it looks like a daytime soap….
it sounds like a daytime soap….
whoever is involved in this has taken a great show and turned it to crap.
@31 : sure there is a superior distribution method available… but if the show dies, your “superior distribution method” will be useless as there will be nothing to download.
I think we all here agree that we should download those episodes now that they are out there.
But if we like the show we should also buy the DVDs and do our best to get the ratings up as it is the ONLY way to give the show a third season so we can have something to download every week.
Hunt down those Nielsen families, then.
[quote comment="262589"]This is #12 speaking. My guess is that I’ve been in the media longer than you’ve been alive.[/quote]
Then I’m sure you do understand that it makes no difference whether *I* and probably most of the users of TorrentFreak download it or watch it on TV.
We are not Nielsen familes.
If you really want to make a difference, hunt down a Nielsen family, take them hostage and make THEM watch it.
~ Kiran
I sure hope it sticks around this time. Where the hell are these Nielsen families anyway? I think we should just force them to watch what we want them to.
I’m amazed at some of the responses on this thread. CBS spends $20M on seven new episodes of Jericho, the production company and crew work long and hard hours to make them, and some of you behave like spoiled brats who think this is one big candy store where you get to take whatever you want for free.
Go ahead, download the torrents and don’t watch the network. And in a few years, when you have nothing to download but “Jackass,” I’ll gladly say I told you so and laugh at your shortsightedness.
P.S. The leak of these episodes and their subsequent uploads and downloads on various sites are both illegal and in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws, and believe me, CBS Legal is very much aware of it. Enjoy your fun while you can, children.
commercials are fine, but i never ever never not in my life ever am gonna buy any product seen on tv. there is nothing advertised that i need anyway.
Ugh. I’ve been known to download a few torrents in my time, but I refuse to watch the Jericho torrents, as tempting as they are. The show’s teetering on the edge right now and I really don’t see this helping, even though it doesn’t really affect the Nielsen ratings much.
[quote comment="262943"]I’m amazed at some of the responses on this thread. CBS spends $20M on seven new episodes of Jericho, the production company and crew work long and hard hours to make them, and some of you behave like spoiled brats who think this is one big candy store where you get to take whatever you want for free.
Go ahead, download the torrents and don’t watch the network. And in a few years, when you have nothing to download but “Jackass,” I’ll gladly say I told you so and laugh at your shortsightedness.
P.S. The leak of these episodes and their subsequent uploads and downloads on various sites are both illegal and in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws, and believe me, CBS Legal is very much aware of it. Enjoy your fun while you can, children.[/quote]
Did you ever stop and think that this may actually help promote the show. I never watched an episode of Jericho until yesterday when I heard about the leak so I started watching it from season 1 and I love the show so far. See they got a new viewer already from the leak.
As repeated many times already, unless you are a Nielsen family it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference if you watch the network or a torrent.
The only contribution you can make is to buy the DVD.
Actually, if you have digital cable, tivo, replaytv, etc you’re counted just like those Nielsen families… so tune in, record and watch!
Umm, nope Geoff, you are not counted just like the Nielsen families. Only Nielsens and their DVRs are counted. Digital cable and DVRs have the capability to count us through the cable companies, but the Networks and advertisers still rely on just Nielen numbers.
The only non-Nielsen counting that the networks even consider are how many hits they get on their websites, so if you would like to be counted, stream the episodes online.
[quote comment="263094"][quote comment="262943"]I’m amazed at some of the responses on this thread. CBS spends $20M on seven new episodes of Jericho, the production company and crew work long and hard hours to make them, and some of you behave like spoiled brats who think this is one big candy store where you get to take whatever you want for free.
Go ahead, download the torrents and don’t watch the network. And in a few years, when you have nothing to download but “Jackass,” I’ll gladly say I told you so and laugh at your shortsightedness.
P.S. The leak of these episodes and their subsequent uploads and downloads on various sites are both illegal and in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws, and believe me, CBS Legal is very much aware of it. Enjoy your fun while you can, children.[/quote]
Did you ever stop and think that this may actually help promote the show. I never watched an episode of Jericho until yesterday when I heard about the leak so I started watching it from season 1 and I love the show so far. See they got a new viewer already from the leak.[/quote]
Lol, but are they making any money off of you? Because otherwise, the production powerhouses are not, I would think, very impressed :)
Come to mention it, there is another issue here. The TV show is born on the network, it lives off the ratings, and it dies on the whim of a production exec;
Just a couple of hours ago, I was mourning Dark Angel, Firefly, and Over There; excellent shows, with pretty big and extremely strong fan bases and great critical reviews, which were axed long LONG before their time (think after only one or two seasons).
Sure, a show can only go so long - say, five seasons or so - before it finishes its story, and has to be let down for the next show / story; but the cancellations of these (and many other!) shows is just horribly sad and disappointing.
But how do we keep 1) shows we like alive, 2) their creators and contributors paid and happy, and 3) the torrent / p2p pipelines filled?
Two ways: first, Neilson Ratings should accept “Save-Our-Show” correspondence, and count it as, say, four times more valuable then their set-top boxes and their tv-diaries [because obviously, someone who cares enough to write a snail-mail letter and send it in, is a lot more passionate then someone who comes home from work, turns on the tv, and goes to make dinner). This would help solidify selling the airtime to advertisers: “Normal methods indicate x thousand viewers, additionally, there are x thousand devotees outside of our normal measuring index.”
Next, is cold hard cash. The rest of us non-Neilson-approved households can’t send very many real-time messages to TV show producers and creators, n’est pas? However, if there were a way for fans, having discovered a currently-running show they like, to go to the shows website and pre-order that season on DVD, then that would be a HELL of a consumer message! I mean, hell, I’ve seen a season of Dark Angel for ~$20 at Walmart etc, but if paying twice that for the current season meant that the show wouldn’t be cancelled, I’d gladly pay $40!
That way, the creators and contributors to the show would know:
a) There is a definite fan base.
b) The fan base is willing to pay cold hard cash for the show to continue; and
c) that IN ADDITION to the advertising revenues they make (which are worth more because the advertisers know that they are reaching the Neilson numbers PLUS the previously-uncounted fans); in addition to that increased ad revenue, they are offsetting the cost from public sponsors! Even (300,000 fans X 40 a current box set) = 12 million dollars extra a season would sure-hell help compensate for the ad revenue “lost” for not switching to some more mindless reality TV show they _think_ would be more consumed by the mind-numbed public!
Incidently, there’s 300 million people in North America alone; then if you factor in the overseas audience of 300-700+ million people, then even a percentile-fraction of those viewers paying $20-40 for the season is a big market.
So big, I would think, that even if the current studio decided to drop it, there would be incentive for some other studio to pick it up (networks can only produce enough programming to fill seven evenings worth of telly; can’t fit two hours worth into one! so it would make sense to outsource extra/niche TV shows to outside channels).
My two cents. Peace.
[quote comment="263329"][quote comment="263094"][quote comment="262943"]I’m amazed at some of the responses on this thread. CBS spends $20M on seven new episodes of Jericho, the production company and crew work long and hard hours to make them, and some of you behave like spoiled brats who think this is one big candy store where you get to take whatever you want for free.
Go ahead, download the torrents and don’t watch the network. And in a few years, when you have nothing to download but “Jackass,” I’ll gladly say I told you so and laugh at your shortsightedness.
P.S. The leak of these episodes and their subsequent uploads and downloads on various sites are both illegal and in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws, and believe me, CBS Legal is very much aware of it. Enjoy your fun while you can, children.[/quote]
Did you ever stop and think that this may actually help promote the show. I never watched an episode of Jericho until yesterday when I heard about the leak so I started watching it from season 1 and I love the show so far. See they got a new viewer already from the leak.[/quote]
Lol, but are they making any money off of you? Because otherwise, the production powerhouses are not, I would think, very impressed :)[/quote]
Actually they make money off of me. My satellite bill is over $100/month and I know the networks get a piece of it and if I like the show I usually buy the DVDs so there is more money. So what if I download a show that I missed. If it wasn’t for torrents I would have never watched Heroes, Lost and Battlestar Galactica.
The first season of the show was available for ‘free’ on Comcast On-demand, or for ‘purchase’ as a Season Pass on itunes. Both of these outlets are used by the studio to track the popularity of a show.
This show is one of the few that my son enjoys. It has no ‘graphic content’, so I will be purchasing him a Season Pass once the season starts, because I want to support quality programming (”quality” as in, ’tis okay for my boy to watch and he gets a kick out of it. (when really, it is on par with A-team, CHIPS, Macguyver, and other 80’s dreck I grew up watching)).
One note to the writer of this story… Jeff had no part other than be the company that the fans happen to come across during the protest. He had never even HEARD OR WATCHED the show before the protest. The fans got the show back, he just made money delivering the nuts ordered from his company.
Sorry, have to disagree with you here, he was not a fan originally, but quickly became one of the biggest, take a look at his blog, and to the money, someone would have ….. he was brought into this, and came to love the show and us!
To the rest of you yahoos downloading the show, go right ahead and screw it up for the rest of us. We worked damned hard to get that show back, and now who ever did this small petty thing ( just to ruin our happiness) will prob be responsible for taking season three away.
I can hope that one day, YOUR fav show is not in peril and you dont have this same thing happen to you.
So rock on folks, after all its NOT important to you who are downloading it,
Anyone know where we can find the Morse code intros for the season 2 leaks?
Hello All,
I’ve downloaded and viewed from BitTorrent the first 3 episodes… EXCELLENT WORK!!!
I plan to buy on DVD the 1st Season with my next paycheck and the first three just made me do that move! STILL SHARP and DIRECT as ever.
I still plan on watching it on TV (High Def does look better than 350 megabyte files on a 40 inch LCD TV).
I have a Armitron PPM (personal People meter) for Radio.. not sure it picks up TV but I wear it when watching these high quality shows.
I even downloaded the Sahah Chronicles (Terminator 2.5) but again, I watched Both episodes on the TV for the High Deff experience and 5.1 sound..
So… as Apple iTV and others come along, time shifting (no I dont’ have cable nor Tivo) will be important since we have a 10 and 15 year old in the house.
Sincerely,
Califonia Bit-Torrent Guy.
[quote comment="264226"]Anyone know where we can find the Morse code intros for the season 2 leaks?[/quote]
2×01 - We Are Back
2×02 - Still trying to figure out, it starts with J& and ends with BOXCAR. J& is probably J&R, Jennings&Rall, BOXCAR is a mysterious folder on Hawkings Flash drive.
2×03 - Caller
I am a Jericho fan, I never missed an episode and have watched all of season 1 episodes several times. I will watch every episode of season 2 when they air also. As for the 3 leaked season 2 episodes, If I choose to watch them, it will in no way keep me from watching them when they air. Do a google for Jerich season 2 and there are thousands of links with a mass amount of Jericho buzz. Maybe the leaked eposides did not directly come from CBS, but they are getting attention to a show that needs to get known and increase veiwers.
[quote comment="262424"]The only people who really need to watch the show on broadcast TV are the “Nielsen Families”.
They’re the only ones who actually count towards ratings, Joe Q. Public makes no difference whatsoever - until it hits DVD of course.[/quote]
this is absolutly correct (even though my spelling aint)
however they may one day look at torrent stats to give some real time rattings. the nuts campain should have shown them that they were way off the mark… and no if you tivo the show it won’t count either.
personaly i think they should use the info from direct tv and dish nw and cable boxes to get more acurate rattings, i’m shore that wouldn’t be hard to set up.
The second season of Jericho (so far) is like having an IV drip of liquid crack. I love it!
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Hey, I bought the season 1 DVDs and still enjoy going back and watching them again. I confess, I downloaded the season 2 stuff and told myself that I’d wait…but I’m addicted… could not wait… have already watched them more than once and will still watch them again on Feb 12th…have already marked my calendar. Keep ‘um coming CBS and crew…. And we WILL watch!!!!
People who watch the movie on internet before it airs are selfish morons and are ruining a show you like and will get it cancelled again. Frikkin morons.
Ps: I just sharted while typing this! THANKS ALOT ASSWIPES!
[quote comment="276988"]People who watch the tv show on internet before it airs are selfish morons and are ruining a show you like and will get it cancelled again. Frikkin morons.
Ps: I just sharted while typing this! THANKS ALOT ASSWIPES![/quote]
Well done!
i live in australia and have no idea if the show is going to return here. The channel that hosted it 10 have screwed us around twice now with the first season. I had to u se bit torrent to watch from episode 12 onwards. Good luck to all you over there that can hopefully get a third season.
Here are the morse code dits and translations:
Ep.1
*– * *—-* *-* * / -*** *- *- *- -*-* -*-
We’re / baaack
Ep.2
*— *-*** *-* / *-* *- -* / -*** — -**- -*-* *- *-*
J&R ran BOXCAR
Ep.3
-*-* *- *-** *-** * *-* / -*- -* — *– *** / *- *-** *-**
caller knows all
[quote comment="263094"][quote comment="262943"]I’m amazed at some of the responses on this thread. CBS spends $20M on seven new episodes of Jericho, the production company and crew work long and hard hours to make them, and some of you behave like spoiled brats who think this is one big candy store where you get to take whatever you want for free.
Go ahead, download the torrents and don’t watch the network. And in a few years, when you have nothing to download but “Jackass,” I’ll gladly say I told you so and laugh at your shortsightedness.
P.S. The leak of these episodes and their subsequent uploads and downloads on various sites are both illegal and in violation of U.S. and international copyright laws, and believe me, CBS Legal is very much aware of it. Enjoy your fun while you can, children.[/quote]
Did you ever stop and think that this may actually help promote the show. I never watched an episode of Jericho until yesterday when I heard about the leak so I started watching it from season 1 and I love the show so far. See they got a new viewer already from the leak.[/quote]
Pfft. Buggywhips.
[quote comment="277890"]i live in australia and have no idea if the show is going to return here. The channel that hosted it 10 have screwed us around twice now with the first season. I had to u se bit torrent to watch from episode 12 onwards. Good luck to all you over there that can hopefully get a third season.[/quote]
Yeah I’m in Australia too, and yeah channel 10 are idiots, but why not just buy the Season 1 boxset you moron? Why watch it online? Don’t you wan’t to support Jericho so it lasts longer? The reason it was cancelled in the first place is because of morons like you.
Being English and not very patient to wait the weeks or months that it takes to get a US show on UK TV, I am grateful to Torrents!
Jericho is a good show amoung so, so many good US shows!
I enjoyed reading all your comments, you seem to get angry at each other a lot!
‘All you need is love!’ ;-)
I also enjoyed reading your comments and yes you have convinced me if every thing was downloaded for free we would probably have no tv shows as we know it.I have just deleted the files.I will wait another 10 days or so and watch it on tv!!
Season 1 has just finished in the UK. I abslolutely love it. Does anyone know when season 2 is being shown over here?
Jericho GOOD!
Inaccurate BS rating system BAD!
CBC DUMB!
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