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Lawyer Fined For Defying Judge and Sending Subpoenas to ISPs

A prominent lawyer involved in the ever-growing pay-up-or-else anti-filesharing schemes in the United States has been admonished and punished by a judge. Evan Stone had asked the whether he could contact ISPs in order to discover the identities of alleged file-sharers, but the court said he’d have to wait. Stone ignored the court but was ultimately found out, which resulted in him picking up a $10,000 fine.

Texas lawyer Evan Stone is one of the more colorful characters in the U.S. file-sharing settlement sphere.

The self-described programmer, filmmaker and musician, who when speaking of his pirate-chasing lifestyle says “I was born to do this shit,” is perhaps best known for his attacks on BitTorrent users sharing anime. But like many of his counterparts, Stone also dabbles in pornography.

Last year, Stone filed a suit in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas on behalf of Mick Haig Production, which targeted 670 BitTorrent users who allegedly shared the movie Der Gute Onkel. Now his behavior in the case has drawn the ire of District Court Judge David C. Godbey.

Earlier, Judge Godbey had denied Stone’s request to start sending subpoenas to the ISPs. Stone had wanted to start straight away on matching his collected IP addresses with real-life identities. Instead, Judge Godbey ordered the ISPs to store the information for a later date and the EFF were brought in to represent the interests of, by definition, the as-yet unnamed ‘Does’ in the suit.

But events had already taken a turn for the strange. Internet users started to receive letters from Stone requesting cash settlements, despite the fact that only their ISPs knew their identities and Stone had not yet been given permission to access the information.

Soon the situation became clear. According to the EFF, despite the Judge’s earlier refusal to allow the sending of subpoenas to ISPs, Stone had contacted them anyway. Without a court order, ISPs had been handing over information on their subscribers to Stone and he had been contacting them for cash settlements.

Then in January 2011, Stone and his client dismissed the entire case with prejudice, which brought it to a complete conclusion. Their justification was that there was no “meaningful opportunity to pursue justice in this matter” because there was “little chance of discovery in sight,” this, despite already receiving settlements.

The pair also took the opportunity to bemoan the EFF’s involvement in the case, describing them as a group “renowned for defending internet piracy.”

In court papers dated last Friday, District Court Judge David C. Godbey is scathing of Stone’s conduct.

“To say that the subpoenas imposed an undue burden on their targets fails to capture the gravity of Stone’s abdication of responsibility,” writes the Judge.

“Because Stone obtained information that he had no right to receive, the subpoenas falsity transformed the access of the Does’ information from a bona fide state-sanctioned inspection into private snooping.”

“The Court appointed the Ad Litems [EFF and Public Citizen] to argue whether Stone could send the subpoenas. Stone argued that the Court should allow him to – even though he had already done so – and eventually dismissed the case ostensibly because the Court was taking too long to make a decision,” Judge Godbey continues.

“All the while, Stone was receiving identifying information and communicating with some Does, likely about settlement. The Court rarely has encountered a more textbook example of conduct deserving of sanctions.”

But for this clear and gross misconduct, the Judge fine Stone a mere $10,000. Texas lawyer Robert Cashman, who defends individuals targeted by file-sharing lawsuits, says he’s not impressed by the amount.

“This seems like pennies to an attorney who is bringing in $2,500 per settlement at what he claims is a 45% settlement rate. Ten thousand dollars is merely the equivalent of FOUR settlements,” Cashman writes.

“With the hundreds of letters that went out, even if he is lying about the settlement rate, don’t you think he made at MANY TIMES that amount? Think about it. There is nothing punitive about this order.

“Assume Evan Stone merely sent out 100 letters and had only a 20% success rate at $2,500 per settlement. This alone amounts to $50,000. The Mick Haig Productions case had *670* defendants.

“In short, while $10,000 may be a lot to a starving attorney, my opinion is that the sanctions wouldn’t even cover the IRS’ federal income taxes Mick Haig Productions would pay on the settlements they received from this misstep,” Cashman concludes.

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  • gollu

    Well he’s happy to pay. Maybe that fee must be 100. 000 per Doe…

    • Guest

      First par, second line – missing word, prob [Judge]

      “Evan Stone had asked the whether he could contact ISPs in order.”

      Plz delete when you’ve corrected.

      • KiRE

        Such a shame that all you could see was a mistake in the article.

        • Guest

          liked the article, want it to be bestest

    • Guest

      jeez, since when did a human being cost less than sharing a song online?

      • Jdoe

        As soon as that “human being” assumed he was better than everyone else and entitled to free music that everyone else pays for. ;-)

    • Jdoe

      ROFL at the idiots who did pay up already. And just so you know… the Judge wanted to “appear” as though this was a punishment… what the Judge did instead in essence is he GRANTED the attorney a pretty big favor by allowing the attorney a nice neat little $10,000.00 BUSINESS EXPENSE deduction on the attorney’s business taxes. LOL.

      INSTANT TAX DEDUCTION. For all of you out there applauding the judge or better, pissing and moaning the fine should have been a LOT HIGHER… (I am positive that attorney would agree with you on that one LOL) …I agree with you 100% ! ! A lofty $100,000.00 business expense tax deduction would have been SWEET!!

      This is one smart-ass attorney!! He could not have planned it any better!

  • Anonymous

    Lick my balls, MPAA.

    • Duncan Goodhew

      Mmmmm… salty!

  • politux

    Good for the judge for fining him but it should have been $100,000 not just ten thousand.

    • Anonymous

      it sure as hell wouldn’t have just been $10,000 fine for ‘file sharing’, not if Stone had his way.

    • Just Me

      I would like to see the ISP get fined for their part, or the defendants launch a lawsuit. Surely privacy laws have been violated here. It would act as a reminder to all the other ISP’s that they need to be absolutely sure giving out subscriber information is warranted and sanctioned, otherwise they open themselves up to liability.

      • 7th_Guest

        Never mind fined, I’d like to see these “eager” ISPs identified. The public at large could take it from there, just as they’ve been doing with GoDaddy after their repeated backstabbings of their clients.

      • Jdoe

        You’ve never read the contract between an ISP and prospective client obviously… L-O-L

  • fight for fair use

    your miss the point, the fine proves there is a wrong doing on the part of the lawyer
    he acquired the PERSONAL info by deliberately covering up the court ruling against him

    everyone who received such a letter should contact the eff to find out about filing a counter suit for that invasion of privacy.

    you want this guy to face more “fines” you need to use the ruling given to take action thru the courts

    • Anonymous

      those that handed over the info should be sued as well! no questioning, no standing up for the customer, no court order, nothing! just ‘oh sure, you can have whatever customer info you want. is that enough? need anything else, let us know.’ what an attitude! still taking your dollars every month tho’.

      • Jdoe

        Oh…and it gets better too… when a subpoena is issued to an ISP for your identity… YOU as their customer have the right to defend your “reasons” for anonymity in the same court that issued the subpoena… courts in the US and in the UK are the same in that they both give you SEVEN DAYS ONLY to respond. lol. GOOD LUCK with that seven day rule… as no one in the history of file sharing lawsuits has yet to be able to properly retain counsel AND form a effective brief that will convince any court that your identity should NOT be revealed… Oh, and here’s the pisser on top of it all… SHOULD you exercise your right to dispute in court your right to “anonymity” to begin with… the instant you file your brief, your identity AUTOMATICALLY becomes public record anyway! ooops! How much will you wager THAT information will not be used in any future proceeding to knock your dick into the dirt by yet another attorney?

      • Jdoe

        Also so you know now and well in advance so there is no reason to cry later like a snot nosed little brat who just had his favorite toy dropped out of the car window… ISP’s are under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to even inform you that a subpoena has been served that is requesting your identity! 99% of the time the ISP will voluntarily just hand over the information and say “Fuck that guy… we can afford to lose his business” and they will do NOTHING to protect you as a consumer.

        All you pro-piracy noodles desperately need to wake up and smell the reality. The “Pirate Party” LOST. Not only did they lose the election, they lost ALL credibility.
        Rick Falkvinge RAN from TPB as he was getting his lying-ass CONSTANTLY SERVED to him in court… ummm so you are clear… IN SWEDISH COURTS where he will consistently lie to all of you telling you that Swedish courts REFUSE to protect the RIGHTS of copy right owners.
        Rick ALSO LOST when he was forced to step down as head of the Pirate Party after too many instances of him publicly admitting he finds NOTHING WRONG with 12 year old little kids being used in porn… WONDERFUL HERO you all have here!

        “Several other countries have 12 years as a border, (implying that 12 is the youngest “those” countries allow in porn) …and I have never ever seen the stories of traumatized teens from there.” -Rick Falk Vinge (PP)

        You silly people just don’t get it yet… so PLEASE continue downloading pirated music and movies… we as content owners LOVE the money you are NOW AND WILL BE PAYING US.

        ;-P

        Have a nice day folks.

    • Ven

      You can’t get him fined more. He served subpoenas he shouldn’t have, which is between him and the judge.

      You can however get a lawyer and fuck your ISP over for giving out your information without the presence of a legit court order. The ISP in turn could try and go after Captain Cocksucker for his dishonest communications, or attempt to use this as precedence in a future case where they refuse to hand out customer information.

      • Jdoe

        Actually nope on all accounts. All that fine print you never read from you ISP when you sign on the dotted line specifies that you can expect zero protection from them regarding privacy. In MANY instances I have simply REQUESTED the identity to losers who are uploading my copy right protected files to upload lockers and simply ASKED the ISP to provide me with client information based on an IP address I would obtain telling them simply it is for a civil matter… no subpoena REQUIRED… they hand it over without even blinking an eye.Oh and here’s the PUNCH LINE TO THAT!!! I have used THIS SITE and bogus petitions that all you bleeding hearts LOVE to sign somehow thinking they hold any water what-so-EVER to obtain those IP addresses SPECIFICALLY from people who are posting comments here on TF. OH SNAP!

        The ISP’s themselves will do nothing to the attorney… they don’t care to waste their time, money nor effort on such a ridiculous cause as “protecting your interests” as a consumer… lol Wake and smell the “THEY DON’T GIVE a rats ass about you dude. They only care about your money” They will use nothing as “precedent”. You think they care? Read the above line for clarification.

        The funniest thing about all you pro-file sharing people is you wrongfully assume ANYONE cares at all… sure Rick-the-lack-of-credibility-child-lover-Falk Vinge cares… but who listens to him? Anyone?? Anyone??? I didn’t think so ;-)

        • Ven

          Slightly inaccurate there. It’s true that ISPs will sometimes hand over personal customer information, just like sometimes they will accidentally post them on a download server. However, in both cases customers can get a lawyer and sue their ISP for a violation of privacy.

          And if the ISP is handing over information with no good reason, they will be footing the bill for it.

    • Jdoe

      ABSOLUTELY!!! Give him MORE tax deductions on his business expenses! LOL

      When are you people going to learn? File sharing… we as content OWNERS LOVE YOU PEOPLE who think you are getting away with it. The truth is… the courts are congested and backing up at a ridiculous rate with cases and everyone is going to go down and end up paying out of pocket (due to punitive damages) …a SHIT LOAD MORE than it would have ever cost to just acquire the file LEGALLY by paying for it. You do not need to believe me of course! Stay naive! THAT is what attorneys are actually counting on… but just so you know… a good friend of mine is an adult video producer in Thailand. In the 8 years in business he has earned only about 3 million in revenue from purchases… but oh SNAP! He has found that file sharing cases are FAR MORE LUCRATIVE!!! In lawsuits in the last TWO YEARS ALONE… he has collected over 20 MILLION in settlements. Sure, he has to cut out 40% for attorneys fee’s… but that remaining 60% has him set for life!!!!! hahahaha

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        lol
        Yet another industry LIAR spreading his shit in our fertile fields where we feed off your efforts as we treat you with the contempt you truly deserve.

        Keep it coming troll, you simply satiate our appetite for endurance in winning this stupid war.

  • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

    In my opinion, it should be $10.000 per infringement. One for each letter sent… Or, for each of the names supplied by the ISP’s. Whatever is larger.

    I am sure you all know who came up with this math…

  • shane

    real question – Could the people who received a letter from him not sue, or at least file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau against, the ISP that gave out their personal information just because someone asked them for it?

    • Ven

      Absolutely. If the lawyer was supplying the ISP with information that was blatantly dishonest (say he was telling them that a judge had awarded the subpoenas) they could in turn take him to court for damages they suffered.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        “If the lawyer was supplying the ISP with information that was blatantly dishonest (say he was telling them that a judge had awarded the subpoenas) they could in turn take him to court for damages they suffered.”

        I’m not quite up to spec on US law but if a lawyer actually claims subpoenas in full knowledge that he’s lying through his teeth isn’t that straight-out fraud? I believe being disbarred is rather common in such cases.

        • Ven

          Disbarment seems to me to almost be a lost practice in our legal system. You are correct though, that this kind of fraud would be the kind of thing that gets a lawyer tossed from the system.

        • Jdoe

          SDM once again you have stepped into the theater to prove even further that you just are not a “thinker”!

          Huff and puff and live on these forums as a troll fanning the flames of the issue (as if there is ANY fire left in your camp to begin with L O L…) but man… you consistently FAIL at delivering anything of substance and should just quite. You’re useless. You are always wrong.

          If the subpoenas were never signed by the judge himself… how on earth are you going to get the ISP’s to ever even admit to ANY discrepancy on their part when all they ever had to do in the first place was LOOK for the Judge’s signature… see for themselves that the subpoenas (which ARE hand served hard copies) were never signed by the Judge, and deny the request? Oh yah… because there is not one ISP out there that actually requires a subpoena to reveal your identity. 99% of the time all you need to do is ASK THEM NICELY… and they will sell you out faster than “90% off going out of business” dildos at a lesbian convention.

        • Jdoe

          “I believe being disbarred is rather common in such cases. “

          Do you really? Hmmm let’s see,,, how many disbarment hearings have you been to and witnessed yourself? How many attorneys have you specifically represented at a disbarment hearing? How many disbarment hearings have you reviewed exactly?

          L – O – L

          You believe disbarment is in order? Waaaahahaha… good luck with that useless tangent because the truth is you have ZERO knowledge of what is required to actually have a member of the law community disbarred. You… as USUAL… are doing NOTHING but talking out your back side chump.

          EPIC FAIL.

      • Jdoe

        LOL… ummm those subpoenas all went out MINUS the Judge’s signature… now how stupid does that make the ISP look even if there was a legal foot to stand on in the first place (which there is not…)

        And exactly WHAT damages were suffered by the customers themselves? When you can list any… let me know! Arm chair lawyers… so funny!

        Bottom line… the judge will not honor the information supplied as evidence in that particular case… that does not mean it still cannot be used as ammunition in a NEW filing of copy right infringement… I think a lot of people will continue to pay “out of court” settlements after consulting their own attorneys and finding out that they are all SHIT outta luck and DAMN LUCKY they are not facing a Judges punitive-damages-calculator in the process!

    • Jdoe

      The real answer is simply “No, they cannot” Read your contracts with your ISP’s and stop living in a haze where you do not know what you are signing.

  • shane

    real question – Could the people who received a letter from him not sue, or at least file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau against, the ISP that gave out their personal information just because someone asked them for it?

  • Sketch

    even God hates lawyers.

    • Guest

      so does my invisible friend

      he also sells a line in god-biscuits your invisible friend might find tasty

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

        NO don’t listen to him, get cookies from the cookie god instead! you must hail the cookie god and all his glorious cookies!

        • Anonymous

          I have always admired the directness of the Tampon God when he tells you where to stick it!

          He also rejects claim that a tampon is the Devil’s Finger.

  • Eddy

    Correct me if i have this wrong, I am not the sharpest tool in the box…
    The judge said he couldnt have the detals of alleged infringers, at that time, and would have to wait.
    He didnt wait, and got the details from who…te ISP I guess.
    Have the ISP’s not broken data protection laws in the US cause I am damn sure that is illigal in the EU, where data protection is taken very seriously.
    Does the ISP’s NOT have to answer for their ‘crime’ too.

    Can anyone explain if they do, and if not why not.?

    I think I may have the answer to why there are so many ‘legal’ firms are trying to blackmail alleged filesharers into pay up or else schemes…ISP’s a riutinely SELLING our details to these parasites, why is this acceptable…its illigal ffs.

    • Trolololol

      Yes, they broke laws, are liable to be sued (which they should).

      • Jdoe

        Really? which LAWS specifically did they break? Under which laws are they liable under? Can you answer that?

    • unknown

      perhaps even the ISP got blackmailed by them (saying that ISP is trying to support piracy and will be sue and etc). well thats what those guys do best right? it’s not completely unexpected.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      It’s a good question.

      If the ISP’s gave the information in good faith that the lawyer was telling the truth then the lawyer was guilty of fraud.

      If they gave the information without first establishing the validity of his claims then they are violating their customer’s privacy and may be liable for both civil and criminal charges.

      Pot odds are the ISP claims they had no reason to doubt the lawyer and the lawyer makes the claim that he wasn’t claiming the subpoenas had court backing. Which might result in a warning for sloppy conduct or a slap on the wrist.

      • Jdoe

        The ISP responded to a hand served hard copy of the subpoena which to anyone’s open eyes could be seen was lacking a judges signature. And what exactly are you talking about with this notion that anyone as a customer of an ISP has any expectation to privacy? They “MAY” be liable? Well I am sure when YOU come up with the law under which they can be held liable… they will learn all about it from you… because it doe not exist.

    • Jdoe

      Truth be told Eddy it is not illegal. The ISP’s do not even require a subpoena to hand over your information to anyone who requests it for what is deemed as a justifiable reason. I can contact your ISP and claim that I know personally that you are infringing my copy rights from whatever IP address and politely request that the ISP turns over your account information. They will hand it over without blinking an eye and in 99% of the case without ever informing you before hand that they are about to hand out your information. No breach of confidentiality… it helps to read the fine print an ISP expects you to be aware of when signing up with their service… this is in the US as well as in the UK and throughout EU. Think of online marketing… now think of who is at the top of that food chain… Your ISP is the great white shark in the ocean of the internet and all your data represents revenue to them through marketing efforts so in no way will they ever draft a contract for you to sign that states you have an expectation of privacy… it’s a myth bro.

  • Eddy

    On a furthur point…why is no-one making ISP’s sweat.
    They charge us more for having no download limits, cap our speeds when they think we might actually want to download more than a GB a month and then sell our details to any dick who asks.

    Why are ISP’s allowed to get away with this shit.?

    • Jdoe

      Ummmm simply because you give them your permission when you sign the contract.

    • Jdoe

      Ummmm simply because you give them your permission when you sign the contract.

  • Zan

    What
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  • Evan Stone
  • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

    The same lawyer who likes suing 70 year old ladies ha this guys such a loser not even other lawyers like him. He’s a leech wherever he feels comfortable leeching off of. There are good leeches and there are Evan stones. Lol he’s soo balled and ugly it’s sad, seems like the fat kid who got beat up in school and never had friends lol.

  • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

    The same lawyer who likes suing 70 year old ladies ha this guys such a loser not even other lawyers like him. He’s a leech wherever he feels comfortable leeching off of. There are good leeches and there are Evan stones. Lol he’s soo balled and ugly it’s sad, seems like the fat kid who got beat up in school and never had friends lol.

    • Jay

      I am all for criticizing someone for their misdeeds but to criticize someone looks makes you just as low and ugly as them because a person has no control over how he or she looks.

      • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

        Sure and all the money he takes from innocent people he could fix himself up. Thanks but no thanks no sympathy.

        • Jdoe

          Innocent people fight for their rights… its the guilty who pay up. If you were innocent, would you part with even one dime? I don’t think so.

    • Ven

      He isn’t ugly, it is a result of his early 90′s wrestling career. Here is a picture of him back then:

      http://media.strategywiki.org/images/4/48/SSF2T_Zangief.gif

      • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

        lmao:P

    • Jdoe

      Bald* you mean? That education was wasted I see ans spelling for you is a tad rough. And seriously? It really shows your lack of depth to insult a person based on what they look like. My guess is you yourself have been told numerous times that you are less than attractive… know how it hurts, and feed it back to others every chance you get. And hey… if dummies are going to provide an opportunity for him to leach money from them by their own stupidity… good for him in knowing where and when to strike and how to make recovery!

      • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

        Hey asshole go fuck yourself thanks have a nice day!!English is a secondary language for me. Go do your spell nazi bullshit somewhere where the sun don’t shine.

      • Ven

        “Ans” apparently spelling is not your strong suit either.

      • Ven

        “Ans” apparently spelling is not your strong suit either.

  • Communism

    Why not just execute him for obstruction of justice?

  • Jack

    All of these copyright trolls have several things in common, whichever country they are operating in.
    As in the ACS:law case, using the legal system to run an extortion racket, ignoring the Judge’s instructions during a court case and showing a complete lack of remorse for their actions when they get caught out.

    • Ven

      The good news here is that this fine has effectively ended his anti-piracy career, because no judge will give him an easy ride and and as a result no copyright holders will want to work with him.

      • Jdoe

        Well you could not be more wrong with that tangent Vin… see he has made headlines now. That boosts his level of fame… he is higher profile now. I am sure like most humans he too can look at a mistake and learn from it and correct the path he took in future endeavors… this far from slammed him… if anything… it give him more of a name in a brighter spotlight. No… this did not end his career… This episode launched it.

      • Jdoe

        Well you could not be more wrong with that tangent Vin… see he has made headlines now. That boosts his level of fame… he is higher profile now. I am sure like most humans he too can look at a mistake and learn from it and correct the path he took in future endeavors… this far from slammed him… if anything… it give him more of a name in a brighter spotlight. No… this did not end his career… This episode launched it.

  • Volntyr

    Simply wow. Its actually amazing that within the first year and a half of practicing Law gets Sanctioned. Even though the amount is peanuts compared to what he should be fined, the Sanction will go on his permanent record. A few more sanctions, he loses his BAR license

    • Jdoe

      LOL at the arm chair lawyers here who think they know anything at all. This sanction was meaningless. I work in law… sanctions are slaps on the wrist and mean nothing.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been following this via Ars Technica (see http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/09/sanctioned-p2p-lawyer-fined-10000-for-staggering-chutzpah.ars ). The comments are illuminating: apparently the ISPs are covered because in Texas, a lawyer is allowed to send out a subpena for this sort of thing w/o bothering a judge. “Rule 176 of the Rules of Civil Procedure states that it may be issued by any attorney authorized to practice in the State.” The ISP can’t be held liable if it’s later determined that the subpena was issued incorrectly by the lawyer; on the face of the subpena, it looked legal.

    Also, Stone has to pay the legal fees for the EFF and Public Citizen, plus he has to show the letter the judge wrote to all the other judges who see cases he’s bringing. It’s hoped that this is only the beginning of the pain for Mr. Stone, more to come.

    • Anonymouse

      Why the hell cant they be held responsible & if A Lawyer sends out a subpoena illegally why hasn’t he been disbarred.

      • Jdoe

        Find that answer… come back when you have realized this is far from a disbarment offense. You people want to speak on the subject… then at least learn what you are talking about first!

      • Jdoe

        Find that answer… come back when you have realized this is far from a disbarment offense. You people want to speak on the subject… then at least learn what you are talking about first!

  • http://mzl.la/n9FAit Needlez

    I’m outraged at the amount he was fined. That is like a slap on the wrist to this lawyer. For all the issues and problems he should be held responsible for multiple damages, 1000+ for each person who was sent a settlement letter, then fined for obstructing justice, then sued by each person one of those people who got a letter. And should be sued for the maximum by state for each person which I think is around $5000. Then on top of that any ISP that did give away information without a court ordered warrant should be disbanned and have their privileges as being an ISP revoked. On top of that they should be forced to pay a maximum of $250,000 to each person whom that gave out personal information to. Seeing as how that is a federal crime like going through someones mail, they should also be given jail time. But more then likely they won’t be the ISPs will keep doing what they do, give out information because this lawyer sent them a subpoena without the courts approval. And as for these people that get these letters what you should do is save them, and then show to the judges that these law firms are committing extortion. That’s just my opinion on how things should be done, but will it happen? Probably not in my life time.

    • Anonymous

      FYI, in Texas, a lawyer is allowed to send out a subpena of this sort without needing a court’s approval. The ISPs are covered under the law because the subpenas looked perfectly legal on face, even if later on they are found to be illegal. The question is, who wrote the law allowing this?

    • Jdoe

      Lol no of course it will never happen in your life time. You rant was funny though.

  • Guest

    10 Grand, how much does a good hitman charge these days

    • Guest

      I meant, 10 Grand, how much does a good hitman charge these days because I tend to ask a lot of stupid questions that are irrelevant because I am deee deee deeeee DUMB as a BOX OF ROCKS.

  • Anonymous

    I am not surprised this happened when these lawyers have an ego and arrogance above the law and are a judge unto themselves. This will also their be downfall.

    It is also true to say that no court has ever examined their accounts in detail meaning there is no balanced punishment. Why should a lawyer be allowed to profit by even 1 cent through defying a judge?

    Worry not when the worm has already turned and most judges are aware of their scheme. These events will build up until their position is discredited.

    • Jdoe

      Really Violated… you comment on this lawyer as it is applicable. But you should also know that Judges themselves are far worse than many attorneys. The blatant miscarriage of justice by Judges in the US is appalling. So one lawyer got nailed with one headline worthy snippet. Whoopty-do. This is nothing by comparison to the lack of respect so many judges in the US are showing every day.

  • Dan2

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL SWEET!! Time for all them pay up or else faggots to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Okarin

    to the shareholders it was because of profits for the anti-pirates because this is a moral crusade

  • IAMZODA

    I heard he secretly jacks off in court and his computer is filled with anime.

    • IAMZODA

      I also head that people think I show the maturity of a 7 year old with my comments on forums like this and that no one bothers to take me seriously because I fail.

  • guest 70

    We paid $1,500 to Evan Stone! We got a letter from our internet company saying we had a copy right infring. I called their security company and found our wireless was unsecured (everytime you re-set your router it looses it password!). They said we illegally downloaded a game on a certain date per a notifaction they received. They said they would document our file we called & took care of our security & had a Master Card reciept of a purchase download for that game. 1 month later Evan Stone sent a letter reg: lawsuit to our ISP!! after 5 calls to other laywers it would cost more to defend ourselves then to just pay him off…. We were told he is a bully and you have no choice which we found out even with a paid receipt for the game! I personally talked to him on the phone and he had an argument for everthing. He should be stopped. Many errors on his court papers and even lawsuit for a porno on our suit instead of a internet game but he said it was just paperwork and would correct it!

    • Canadian Nutjob

      Mr. and Mrs. Average American,

      Please fix your legal system & government before they force every citizen – man, woman and child to be implanted with tracking chips.

      Yours Truly,
      Canadian Nutjob

      Seriously people, WTF is going on down there? XD

    • Booksforall

      Would you possibly tell me what video game it was and do you remember the court case number?

      Thanks and sorry that you were unfairly punished and scared into paying by this lawyer and the others you called…

      • guest 70

        I am not sure telling you all this info will solve anything. I am now in fear of saying anything about our case. He also claimed he did not have anything to do with video games but we down loaded a porno. The ISP said it was a video game… which we own. He then wanted me to talk to my neighbors and see if they sat outside my house and stole my wireless signal?! He made me feel dirty but saying I had porn on my computer. It went from a game down load per my internet company to a porno lawsuit? He then said it was different issues? It was paid off, we got settled, we are paranoid people now, and they only charged him $10,000 and he will continue!

        • Anonymous

          The best thing to have done in this case would have been to completely ignore him. To directly talk to him is the worst thing you can do when most people would only break and pay up after being bullied. You fell right into his trap… paying up is cheaper than going to court. You have been successfully victimised and exploited by a man who stole your money!

          What you overlook is that he had NO INTENTION to take you to court. His history proves this when it is all about money and if you don’t pay up he simply moves on to the next victim. In the ultra rare case he did take you to court (to meet his doom…) then he would have no case against you. Your IP address is not a person and is no proof of a crime. He would only have what you did confess to him and even that does not mean he would win.

        • IDIOCRACY

          Sue him back in a civil suit now, you will win with this conviction, claim immaterial damages 1 million and see what that judge will do, try to find a no cure no pay lawyer, but make sure to this lawyer that the guy is for this practice already convicted to pay to the court money, so it should be an easy win.

    • guest 70

      This is why he is a Bully …Violated0! When you don’t know, don’t have issues with the law and then you get all this documention from your ISP and told you may be sues! We spoke to plenty of lawyers in our state and in Texas… 1 told us to let it go and see what happens. 3 said they would take it but would cost the same to fight it, one went back & forth on the what if’s…We were told in the begining he doesn’t know you until the date listed on the subpoena then our ISP will have to give it. It was all scare tactics and us being bullied! We now know more for the furutre but too late for this scam. We are angry – this man is lower than low. He gaves us a deal (per him) since it coulda been this could been that instead of the $2,500-5,000 he wanted. Too much in our lives to get into for display on this site but I don’t have it in me right now to take on a lawsuit with the load on our plates. I would LOVE to see him write me a check!!!!

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  • Guest

    Evan Stone? Is that this anti-pirate lawyer’s real name? Because I remember that as also being the very same name as one of the stars of the porn movie — I am not making this up — PIRATES. Google the name.

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Dear Evan Stone:
    Please do your anti-piracy organizations a favor and quit your job as a lawyer. You and your failures are going to soon show the public that they really need to fight against things like PROTECTIP, and anything else that makes your schemes easier.
    Just kidding:
    We love your stupidity.
    –A.B.

  • Lkdsfjlsdj

    The judge should have determined how many he actually sent out and fined him the exact amount per instance he was asking for the infringement settlement.

  • knightowl

    someone named scarlet put this up on another article and i figured id share

    This couldn’t have happened to a nicer scumbag!!!

    “The Court also finds that a sanction of $10,000 sufficiently will
    deter similar misconduct and adequately reflects the gravity of the circumstances.
    ORDER – PAGE 15
    Case 3:10-cv-01900-N Document 17 Filed 09/09/11 Page 15 of 17 PageID 360
    IV. THE COURT ORDERS ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS
    To make all interested parties to this action whole, the Court further orders the
    following additional sanctions:
    1) Stone shall serve a copy of this Order on each ISP implicated and to every person
    or entity with whom he communicated for any purpose in these proceedings.
    2) Stone shall file a copy of this Order in every currently-ongoing proceeding in which
    he represents a party, pending in any court in the United States, federal or state.
    3) Stone shall disclose to the Court whether he received funds, either personally or on
    behalf of Mick Haig, and whether Mick Haig received funds for any reason from any person
    or entity associated with these proceedings, regardless of that person’s status as a Doe
    Defendant or not, (excepting any fees or expenses paid by Mick Haig to Stone).
    4) Stone shall pay the Ad Litems’ attorneys’ fees and expenses reasonably incurred
    in bringing the motion for sanctions. The Ad Litems shall file an affidavit or other proof of
    such fees and expenses with the Court within thirty (30) days of the date of this Order. Stone
    may contest such proof within seven (7) days of its filing.
    Stone shall comply with these directives and supply the Court with written
    confirmation of his compliance no later than forty-five (45) days after the date of this Order.
    CONCLUSION
    Stone requested that the Court approve preconference discovery aimed at identifying
    the Does. The Court instead ordered the ISPs to preserve Stone’s desired information
    pending the Court’s resolution of the Discovery Motion. Stone nonetheless issued
    subpoenas, obtained some Does’ identifying information, and attempted to contact an
    ORDER – PAGE 16
    Case 3:10-cv-01900-N Document 17 Filed 09/09/11 Page 16 of 17 PageID 361
    unknown number of Does, presumably to make settlement offers. The adage “it is easier to
    ask forgiveness than it is to get permission” has no place in the issuance of subpoenas. The
    Court therefore sanctions Stone in the amount of $10,000, to be paid into the Court’s registry
    no later than thirty (30) days after the date of this Order, and imposes additional sanctions
    as set forth above.
    Signed September 9, 2011.
    _________________________________
    David C. Godbey
    United States District Judge”

    • Jdoe

      well that was worthless. Who cares? lol

    • Jdoe

      well that was worthless. Who cares? lol

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Item 3) is particularly interesting as it indicates that Judge G aint letting go of this and may well fine the Mick Haig porn studio and apply further sanctions against Stone too.

      “3) Stone shall disclose to the Court whether he received funds, either personally or on behalf of Mick Haig, and whether Mick Haig received funds for any reason from any person or entity associated with these proceedings, regardless of that person’s status as a Doe Defendant or not, (excepting any fees or expenses paid by Mick Haig to Stone).”

      I’m sure we haven’t seen the last from this Court on this on-going issue.

      What bugs me though is law enforcement isn’t involved in an investigation, and it’s up to a Court Judge to do the ground-work. The USa is indeed a weird place for law and the administration of justice.

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  • Anonymous

    why has no one commented on the fact that this “lawyer” shares his name with one of the only male porn “stars” out there..

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