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MegaUpload Founder Again Denied Bail, High Court Appeal Launched

During an appearance in court today, his third in less than a week, Kim Dotcom was informed that bail had been denied. The judge rejected the MegaUpload founder’s bid for freedom while he awaits extradition to the US and remanded him in custody until late February. Three other alleged co-conspirators will learn of their fate tomorrow.

Following the dramatic events of the previous 24 hours, last Friday the founder of MegaUpload, Kim Dotcom, was denied bail in an extradition hearing in New Zealand.

Dotcom, who along with several of his employees was raided by armed police in helicopters the day before, is wanted in the United States on racketeering, copyright infringement and money laundering charges.

The hearing was adjourned until Monday this week with Judge David McNaughton delivering his decision this morning at the North Shore District Court.

Noting the scale of the charges against Dotcom and his considerable resources, Judge McNaughton said he that he had no doubt that fleeing New Zealand could be real possibility for the MegaUpload founder.

Judge McNaughton said that if Dotcom could somehow make his way to his birthplace of Germany, extradition would prove impossible since the country has no such agreement with the United States.

Essentially agreeing with prosecutor Anne Toohey, who had described Dotcom as a “significant” flight risk, Judge McNaughton denied the 38-year-old bail and remanded him in custody until 22nd February.

Dotcom’s lawyer, Paul Davison, QC, said that decision would be immediately appealed to the High Court.

“We were hopeful that the judge would accept our intentions and our arguments and see that there was no risk whatsoever of Kim Dotcom seeking to leave New Zealand.

“All of his assets have been frozen, all of his resources have been taken,” he said as he left court today.

“He’s living here with his wife and family, he has no intention whatsoever of endeavoring to leave New Zealand.”

Also appearing in Court today were Dotcom’s alleged co-conspirators Bram van der Kolk, 29, Finn Batato, 38, and Mathias Ortmann, 40.

In a hearing following Mr Dotcom’s, the lawyer representing the three men, Guy Foley, said his clients did not enjoy the same resources as the MegaUpload founder. Foley said that in the absence of a guilty verdict there should be a presumption of innocence.

He described Batato, as a “fair player” who denies involvement in the alleged conspiracy. Prosecutor Anne Toohey described Batato as a series flight risk who, in common with Dotcom, could seek to flee to Germany.

In defense of der Kolk, Foley described him as a family man who had a wife and child in New Zealand. He added that it was troubling that in evidence submitted to the court the FBI had supplied a photograph of someone else.

Ortmann, said Foley, is “decent, modest, honest and reliable” man who would not flee. Prosecutor Toohey said as a German national, fleeing there was a real possibility.

The decision on whether to grant bail to der Kolk, Batato and Ortmann will be delivered tomorrow.

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  • JSaldiano

    Good. The fat fuck should stay in jail.

    • Cabbage

      MAFIAA paid troll?

      • FBI RATS

        GAG ORDERS NOW ON YOUTUBE!
        http://youtu.be/I4CnGkQXa4g

        • OpenMouthed

          Not yet. Is this, maybe, the truth of the copyright nightmare:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc&feature=related

        • ESP

          @OpenMouthed

          If proven, this is the biggest manipulation of the government and the public since Watergate. Scary.

        • Twice Daily

          Ok, the guy is annoying. But I gotta admit he convinces me.

          We all now the movie industries were in it for the long haul but WOW!
          This is a ten year timeline of manipulation by the studios; to engineer a generation of pirates, to manipulate and grow a market, to be able to manipulate copyright legislation to make it watertight, to manipulate governments so convincing them of the necessity to make it impossible for anyone to copy anything, ever again.

          I would go one step beyond what he is saying. I would go so far as to say SOPA and PIPA were a smoke screen, a rouse to deflect interest from the ACTA pact. With ACTA in place it would be illegal to own or share music that is not DRM protected; it would be illegal to make backup archives of your music or movies. Anyone in possession of these, say on an MP4 player found at a search at an airport check in, would be liable to imprisonment.

          I tend to believe that the conspiracy between the studios and the governments is complete. SOPA and PIPA where a broadsword, visible dangerous, something everyone wanted to avoid at all costs…but ACTA is the stilletto, the killing, almost invisible threat, which will ultimately kill ALL sharing and ALL copying with measures so TOTAL, it will make everybody’s head spin.

        • Twice Daily

          As a final thought, the implications I have outlined above are not an exaggeration. We all know how massive the consequences the laws are with regard copyright infringement.

          I would go so far as to predict that in 5 years time, if ACTA passes, possession of ONE copy of a proven copyrighted work will get you the same sentence as being in possession of 10 kilos of heroin.

      • Predator

        Yep! MAFIAA paid troll!

        FREE HANA BESHARA!

        FREE BRADLEY MANNING!

        • Predator

          Stop ACTA!

          FREE HANA BESHARA!

          FREE BRADLEY MANNING!

    • BillyB

      Looks like he’ll have to. Though how you could smuggle a ‘fat fuck’ that would need two reinforced seats on a light aircraft, out of the country, is beyond me.

      • Gu357u53r

        I read smuggle as snuggle. :D

    • Prplaya4life1986

      hes just doing what everyone else on this planet is, trying to survive and make money.

      • Garett

        But everyone else is doing it legally, the hard way where you have to slog from 9 to 5, not sitting at home playing 300 hours of Modern Warfare 3 like this guy.

        • Erthwjim

          He didn’t start at the top, he actually had to work his way up there. So I’m sure he’s put in his hours and invested both time and money to get where he is today. That’s what happens, just because someone has a lot of money doesn’t mean they didn’t work there way to get to it.

        • Anon

          Hello, Green Eyed Monster! Lol.

        • IDIOCRACY

          I know people that play 8760 hours of modern warefare in real life, huh who?? oooh the ones in IRAK and AFGANISTAN … right… weren’t that mearly the USA???
          So what is worse, getting 10$ + expenses an hour for shooting iraki’s or a good self build firm earning you money while playing a game……. pick yourself.

          By the way, do the USA D.A. realize they just made 160 million enemies around the world, the users of megaupload that just lost their online data / got their privacy invaded being innocent.??

        • Oomg

          get you head off you ass he his not guilty yet and even son he merely provided a way to stock data online ….

      • Bibo

        Exactly if anything his a byproduct of greedy entertainment industry. If they priced there stuff normally people wouldn’t need service as megaupload.

        I hope he gets freed because unlike the industry he offered me content for a acceptable price.

        • PelouzeTF

          They do price their content normally. It costs less for games and media now than it did 20 years ago.

          The only problem for you is that you don’t earn enough to buy them….which is sad really.

        • Guest

          @PelouzeTF

          You’re mad, you are.

        • PelouzeTF

          In what way Guest ?

          The price thing ? Google for scans of consoles released in the early 90′s…..adjusted for inflation the “today” price of those games is between $60 and $100.

          CD’s….the major record store I worked at had them for sale at $15 a piece in the 80′s.

  • Guest

    Good. The fat fuck should stay in jail :D

    • PlatinumC

      Lol even double posting as well. Sad sack of a person

  • PlatinumC

    How 1 sided this “fight” can be lol.
    If he is being sent to US anyway, why do they keep sending him to court all the time.

    Anyway, unfortunate to hear it though, but for some reason I’m so sure, that this will resolve itself in a good way for us.

    • Universal Soldier

      Ya this guy also has the money which the MAFIAA have, so he can also play dirty.. This was not the case with other ppl who had to go through the ‘pay up or else’ shit.. Hope MAFIAA gets a tit for tat this time..

      • PlatinumC

        AFAIK all his assets have been seized and freezed..no?

        • Universal Soldier

          He must be having some hidden assets..

        • Anonymous

          Actually it has been recognized in Court that Kim Dotcom still has one bank account left with about $330,000 in it.

          Just don’t ask me why they did not seize that one as well.

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  • Ven

    Assessing his flight risk piece by piece on a scale from one to ten:

    Gravity of charges against him: 7-8
    Pre-arrest amount of assets: 10
    Criminal history: 6
    Ability to dodge extradition if he makes it to his nation of birth: 10

    Not surprised at all by this decision. The appeal will be useless as well.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      I doubt it. The ‘gravity of charges against him’ you are referring to are not a 7-8…. that is forcible rape of an adult or second-degree murder.

      These charges against him on my scale are BARELY a 3 on a scale of 1-10.
      Criminal history? I don’t remember any previous criminal history being referred to.
      Ability to dodge extradition? There are plenty of other people who could do that by fleeing to their country of birth and they are not remanded.
      Amount of assets? That is the only one you got right…. almost. 8 would have been better, he is no Bill Gates.

      • Zig

        All of his assets have been frozen.

      • JMZ

        Money laundering and racketeering definitely counts as a 7 atleast.

        Criminal history? Yes, he does have. Someone above already posted it.

        With his huge assets, he could basically fly to another part of the world and never be found again. Have we forgotten about one of the TPB founders who fled to Cambodia to be never found again?

        • JMZ

          Sorry, not above but Garett below has posted it.

        • Anonymous

          The Racketeering and Money Laundering are totally false claims. The FBI only “lied” to be able to touch him in the first place.

          Now they can pick through all his computers and see what other charges they can add one.

          I would give it a 3 at best.

        • JMZ

          “The Racketeering and Money Laundering are totally false claims. The FBI only “lied” to be able to touch him in the first place.”

          Says who? A random guy named “Violated0″ ?

        • Anonymous

          If you want to find a liar find a politician.

          Maybe you can say how a business paying its sever costs counts as money laundering? Or even people willingly paying a subscription for desired services?

          After all these years I am well aware how copyright protection services fool the law to abuse the market. This is nothing more than a total abuse of the law to take a major rival out of action.

  • asdfgh

    He deserves jailtime, not for MU but because hes an scamming asshole.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Personal opinion and vitriol does not make facts. Care to give some evidence here?

      • Garett

        “In 2002, Kim Dotcom was found guilty of the largest insider trading scandal in German history. Kim flooded some company’s stocks with a bunch of money, promising investors the company would turn around. Once the stocks surged from this news, the fat man sold everything, robbing everyone blind. Like a little 1% bitch, he fled to Thailand, where the feds promptly caught up to him. Dotcom was given a slap on the wrists and a small fine for an abusively rich man.”

        • anon

          it’s not an insider scandal if he invested then sold,learn your economics correctly please.

        • Anon

          Yet USA senators can legally participate in insider trading!!

  • Pentrio

    TAKE ALL OF THE RECORD INDUSTRY AND PUT THEM IN THE OVEN!

  • Jed

    So, I wonder which country the us government is going to pick on next, thats all they seem to do these days.

    • Anonymous

      i dont think ‘pick on’ is the correct term. ‘threaten’ is nearer the mark! and it will continue until there is sufficient backlash, worldwide, to their conduct of aiding and abetting the US entertainment industries by forcing other countries to do the same, when it is of no benefit to those other countries!

    • Kim jung In Your face America

      Try picking on North Korea :D

    • anon

      Canada is waiting for you.

  • Sippydownsdrive

    dotcom is a criminal with 3 passports and 30 credit cards with different names and had a panic room built into his home because he had lots to hide.

    He is a criminal that has made millions off other people’s creations without them getting a dime – plain and simple! His greed caught up with him and now finally he is accountable for his actions. He is in jail because he is a criminal that has been stopped in his tracks from ripping off his megaupload members as well as artists, movemakers, game developers, authors etc.

    Justice is done!

    • Jed

      true, but think about it in this manner, Mr Dotcom didnt manually force all the people to download them did he ? I was a member of megaupload for along time and I dont recall any messages or visits from him demanding I download any files.

      He provided a service to people, plain and simple.

    • Esn

      Looks like the paid shills are out in force today.

      He is in jail because the American government is trying to remake the internet into a massive vehicle of message control and surveillance (the copyright rationale is just a trojan horse), and they chose Kim Dotcom specifically because his past history makes it easier to win the propaganda war with the public.

      But once the legal precedent is made, oh yes! – they’ll go after the others as well!

      It has nothing to do with being a rich criminal. None of the rich criminals on Wall Street were prosecuted, and they’re much richer and harder to like than Kim. It’s about priorities, and America’s are screwed up.

      • Esn

        Kim Dotcom’s problem is that he’s not rich enough to bribe the state to make his activities legal like the Wall Street people (or MPAA’s Chris Dodd), hence, he’s a “criminal”.

        Especially for rich people, “criminality” has little to do with morals and much to do with assets; money, not democracy, decides what’s legal and what’s not.

        Proof: http://poq.oxfordjournals.org/content/69/5/778.full
        “when Americans with different income levels differ in their policy preferences, actual policy outcomes strongly reflect the preferences of the most affluent but bear virtually no relationship to the preferences of poor or middle-income Americans.”

        • Ralph

          no coincodence this happened after he was going to release music box and it was going to be a game changer for mafiaa. 80% or more of free video views funds given to artist. The fbi froze his assets so now he has notihing. Now if tehy will unfreeze them is doubtful.

      • ESP

        Partly. It suits their purpose.

        On the other side of the coin, the media companies are serious.
        They set this up to be masters of a GLOBAL monetised media distribution network to which they, and they alone, pull the strings; calling down government wrath at their command.

    • PlatinumC

      Just because you find an untapped niche, doesn’t make you a criminal, even if it is in the “gray area”.

    • Anon

      Did he have the panic room built or was it the previous owner?

  • 5QATvMFFV52w

    USA is everything that is wrong with this world. When will North Korea finally drop some nukes on you..

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      • Guest

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  • Mogweezer101

    That’s the point – When you uploaded a file to Megaupload you had to agree to their ‘terms and conditions’ that clearly stated you cannot upload copyrighted material. He didn’t abuse the system – the people who used it did.

    They are the criminals – NOT him. (although, if indeed he was laundering money, well that’s another issue entirely)

    I really do suspect this could all collapse quite soon – The warnings were in place before you uploaded a file. There really wasn’t much more they could do. You rename a file called ‘Star Wars’ to ‘My Home Videos’ chuck in a password to protect it – What the hell could they (or anyone!) actually do to stop it? You really expect them to sit there for five days in the vague they’ll crack the password BEFORE they approve the file?

    Rapidshare is no different and it’s still there – Why aren’t they going down as well?

    And it case anyone’s not noticed – We are seeing new file hosting sites emerge this week (shit I’ve never heard of before…) So, they take down a few sites – then they get replaced.

    Isn’t anyone else seeing the similarities between the so-called ‘war on drugs’ and the ‘war on piracy’ – There is a demand, people will always find a way around these things… Perhaps if all this money spent on ACTA/SOPA/etc were spent on grass roots education you’d begin to change the way people think – Because unless you change the way people think – this isn’t going away.

    • Guest

      Believe me, the governments are working on ways to change the way we think.

    • Rohe

      RS had no kickback program for creating premium accounts for a long while. Others never even started one, and that are the ones that still work.

      Look around. Lots of sites loading up movies and music on Freehosters have a hard time to continue because all the hosters “kickback” programs where shut down and they can’t make enough money to pay their server costs. They now call for donations, who will need to be in the range of 200-1000USD -a month- to keep going. I don’t judge that sums, I just state the facts.

      MU should have followed this model. They should have deleted stuff, instead just to delete links. They should have firewalled themselves from the content – no access, no knowledge, nothing. No joking. No mails. But they didn’t.

      The suspected financial allegations are much worse than the copyright stuff. They wouldn’t get extradition requests for copyright violation. They had to build the case around financial misconduct. And thats a completely different story –
      if they get you on that account and can ultimately prove that (especially with US Servers and accounts) you are quite toast. They got Al Capone on that one too.

      They always follow the money. You have to have your house squeaky clean.
      Piratebay, the original “Emule”, they all fell more on less on money issues. Its not easy to “construct” misconduct on this matters, but you can make it quite easy for “the establishment” if you aren’t watching your flank constantly.

      There is a reason, drug lords always try to send back cash on pallets. Where is no money, there is no trail to follow.

    • Banana Joe

      Why would he do money laudering? All his money is legal.

      • JMZ

        And you know how? You were his lover boy?

      • Rohe

        Thats a good question. I think, in legalese terms, if you take money that you earned unjust, and buy legal services with it, it can be constructed as trying to build a “legal front” to cover your acts.

        Since they claim that MU fixed their “Top 100″ lists by removing shading stuff, they know what was happening on their servers and tried to hide it. Such, taking money for premiums and buying more server space (because of the success of your wrong doing) can be constructed as money laundering.

  • PlatinumC

    Pfft, I hate when my comments get deleted :(

    • PlatinumC

      Didn’t meant it in a bad way about TF though :P

      • Guest

        That’s what happens when you spam all over the place :)

        • PlatinumC

          I don’t spam, my comments are always more-or-less to the topic/reply. (like right now :D). Mostly they get deleted since I am replying on a comment that got deleted :P.

  • IXP

    Move servers offshore :) Block all IP Adress From U.S

  • AnonyMouse

    I wonder how much Academi (formerly known as Xe & Blackwater) would charge to slaughter the guards and bust them out.

  • Weihhih

    no more cheeseburgers and pizza for him for a while :(

    • Anonymous

      I see a new name is his future – slim dotcom xD

    • Anonymous

      His new American boyfriends will bring him all the cheeseburgers and pizza that he wants.

  • 4nr

    Germany seems like an awesome country.

  • Reader

    Can’t his lawyer just saw that he has no intention of trying to flee the country as he is an honest man with the same honest ideals as the US government? ;O that could spark and interesting reaction in court X)

  • PlatinumC

    We need to pull our resources together as the worldwide internet community and buy an island and create a new country for hosting (something like that already exists, but there’s always more room).

  • Anon

    I am sorry and I am not a troll but this man is a criminal and so are all the locker sites that allow users to share files while they make money from subscriptions and adverts in the open. We all know mega was nothing more than a place to mass share files. Very few used a site like that for backup of sensitive data like dropbox etc. You would need to be a complete moron to put sensitive data on locker servers. So what legit use was there – very little.

    This is not fair use and not sharing with the intent for it to be a totally non profit transaction such as BT, Usenet and IRC can offer between a small group who learn these technologies and make friends using them. Out with the pirate bay most of this not for profit is small scale stuff compared with recent locker traffic.

    The locker way of doing it made google searches lock on to just about anything for even the most dumb ass user – many of whom can afford to pay and just don’t want to. The genuinely poor people share fair on BT not for profit. Most I know using lockers had cash and were paying subscription fees they should have paid to buy content. The lockers turned Google into a pirate engine without them Google will be cleaner.

    So the feds are right to hammer these sites out of existence and they have the laws NOW to do it. The feds have not touched BT or Usenet and they probably can’t without new laws. But the difference is the sharing on those is not making people money. I know Usenet has server subscriptions but a lot of that is legit use and they do not throw it in peoples faces and the numbers using it are small compared to locker sites due to the difficulties of it being a very old technology. Lockers allowed kids and grannies to file share who has no links to any communities.

    Now fine the entertainment industry make a fortune and prices are still to high due to the Apple tax etc (more middle men!!!) but end of the day taking their content and putting up for resale in the locker fashion without paying them is wrong and would in the end without stopping it have lead to open season on content. This in time would have hurt them in a manner BT/Usenet never or could ever do. Mega probably turned over close to a billion dollars in the short run they had…that is a serious money guys that could have went on content and not some fat ugly guy and a team of rouge coders.

    I would sacrifice these sites to keep BT up any day of the week this man and these sites mean nothing to me and they ruin the image of file sharing. Shame on him and all his like I hate you all and hope the feds bust you to pieces!!! You ruin our case with the people who make content to come to the table so we can get better laws and deals. I do not support these sites or ever will in the way i support BT.

    Rant over rot in jail mega crew.

    • Kr0nZ

      http://thedailyattack.com/2012/01/20/busta-rhymes-backs-megaupload-says-record-labels-are-the-real-criminals/

      really a criminal enterprise when the guy offering music for free, is offering RIAA artists more than the RIAA

      • Rohe

        I think if you don’t get your 70% off iTunes, you won’t get your 90% share off something else. Its not about being found. Its about being KNOWN. Its about having something people WANT. I have doubts that those unknown bands who are now out on +10 pay sites (and don’t getting any paid downloads) suddenly have windfalls because they are now on +1 site more.

    • Mogweezer

      So Usenet is ‘okay’ because they don’t make ‘as much’ money as say, Megaupload did?

      It seems to me that your concern is not about what these various file sharing technologies can do – but how little/or how much money they can potentially make. And if it’s a lot – well, that’s just plain wrong in your book. I think that approach might work well in communist North Korea, but it certainly isn’t the business model we’ve been used to in the developed world.

      I find that a bit strange, to say the least.

      I don’t want my cake – I just want a fair law, and I think that’s what everyone wants at the end of the day.

      What we are seeing now isn’t a fair law being rolled out – it’s a very aggressive take down policy that will have far wider reaching consequences for all of us.

      Again, I repeat my point – Spend the money ‘educating’ people about right and wrong and be (very) patient. That is the only way to tackle this problem.

      Why wasn’t anything done before now? Megaupload was around for years. Is it possible the ACTA/FBI/etc were simply ‘fattening the cow’ and biding their time?

      Why didn’t the FBI/etc ask Megaupload to carry out regular audits of their files from day one? Something stinks here – and it isn’t my socks. (hold on…maybe it is them… one sec..)

      :)

    • PlatinumC

      It’s true that more knowing people use torrent, including me, but sometimes there just is stuff which is easier with a locker, than torrent.
      And he just provided a service, he didn’t force anyone to use it, so no point in accusing MU, accuse the people who use it.

    • StNr

      I think you guys are missing the point made by ANON

      If torrent sites, started to charge subscriptions you would rage.
      Thats basically what these lockers are doing. Mega knew full well that they was going into this business to make money off copyright material. This is not what most admins of torrent sites do. I have been against places like Mega/RS etc. since the beginning as they are geared towards making millions from other peoples works. Where as us torrent site admins, just want to share. Sure we may ask for donations to help keep the site up. But nothing on the scale of this.

      • Kr0nZ

        I download exclusively off Usenet, I pay a sub, I cant be bothered with the whole seeding thing.

        Usenet has just as much legal uses than lockers, however you cant track number of downloads through the whole of Usenet, unlike what you can do with lockers.

        I mention tracking number of downloads because thats how megabox would have paid their artists

    • Clock77

      Look copyright infringement is copyright infringement. Do i have money to some degree yes i had subscriptions to 6 cyberlockers that have all crashed and burned. But lets face it what is the difference between downloading charlies angels on a torrent or on filesonic. The reason why i fled the torrent scene was nazi operators in places like torrent leech who would warn u for every little thing and the cease and desist letters to my isp. Also you got constant full speeds and no ratio to worry about. Now the cyberlocker scene is dead i will go back to torrents with btguard but i think talking about moral highground is absurd. We all want the content.

  • Kr0nZ

    Sooo many cry baby bitches in this comment section….

    “Waaaa waaaa waaaa
    give me all the free media i want, but don’t you dare make any money off me, even indirectly. GIVE ME MY CAKE SO ONLY I CAN EAT IT”

    know what I say? Kudos to this guy for being able to make money in a system that most people wont pay for.

    Even RIAA artist like Busta Rymes support this guy, the rest of you have had your holes stretched far and wide by the mafiaa.

    • YoMomma

      Stop crying bitch. I can’t hear what everyone else is saying due to your Waaaa waaaa waaaa.

      • PlatinumC

        Either my ears are going deaf, or it seems to be that you are the one crying here.

        • Alex

          Hey people, let’s have a mature discussion here.
          Haters gonna hate, fagg?ts gonna ride bikes and eat di?ks.
          Anything you reply, can and will be held against you in your momma’s ass.

  • Alex

    The presumption of innocence is a human right, what the hell is New Zealand doing.
    High court my ass. Why the heck he moved there in the first place. Germany would hardly extradict him to another EU country.

    • Anonymous

      because he would have been judged guilty of copyright infringement, just as the grandmother was a few weeks ago, even though she didn’t have a computer. German law is so pro the entertainment industries, so biased towards ‘guilty unless you can prove innocence’ in these type of cases, it’s unreal!

  • Anonymous

    anyone really surprised at this decision? the NZ government is obviously in the pockets of the US, under the promise of keeping or reinforcing the ‘special relationship’ between the two countries. strange how the US seem to be able to go to any country, do whatever it likes to whomever it likes and everyone bends over to help. when the situation is reversed though, the US does whatever it takes to stop the other countries from achieving what they want. what is it going to take to make other governments, law enforcement and citizens realise that what the US is up to is in no ones best interest other than the US and their entertainment industries? just how stupid can people be?

    • Rohe

      All true. But some people make it quite easy to be tangled in the current media-political US madness. Nobody really wants to stand up to the US, because they mostly target people who aren’t well received/have well standing. If remember correctly, NZ never wanted Kim in the first place. He tried to buy the land and then he had to lease it because they found some strange legislation.

      He and MU had it coming for a long time. He made it way to easy with his brash “Haha, come and get me”-attitude. Would _you_ stand up for a guy like him?

      • Anonymous

        may well be true but NZ soon ‘put up with him’ once he paid a fortune up front. as usual, when it suits, it’s ok. once shit hits fan, attitudes soon change and blame is reapportioned to cover certain peoples arses!

    • JMZ

      You conveniently forget how USA helps out other countries financially when natural disaster strikes. Which country came forward to USA’s aid after Hurricane Katrina?

      • Everyone

        “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina”

        All those countries.

        Look, we all know that the U.S. can be very charitable to natural disaster victims, more so than most other countries. That’s a simple matter of public record. That doesn’t mean that other countries aren’t generous, and it doesn’t mean that the actions of the U.S. in other parts of their foreign policies are justified.

  • pawnofthestate

    I am sure Kims bail is being denied because of pressure from the Feds. They do it here in the US to their state governments. One example is:

    Dont ask people of hispanic origins their nationality or if they are here legally. Just punish them for whatever US laws they break let them go, except dont dare try to deport them unless they meet the dangerous criminal (ie: murder, rape, bank robber etc) and then only after they have served their sentence.

    If a state tries to pass laws to remove its illegal aliens the Feds will sue them, deny them federal money for highways, school programs and all kinds of programs that the Feds give states money for.

    How much money, protection or favors do you think the US government gives to New Zealand? Would New Zealand be on Australia’s and the US shitlist if they didnt act as a US puppet? I think so.

    Play ball or else. No surprise here just politics.

    • JMZ

      Another one of your conspiracy theories genius?

    • Hosa Cool

      true.

  • USASucks

    This won’t even make a single change what compaines doing. I mean the profit. Also youtube and facebook also should get shut down because they are swarm of copyrighted content.

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  • Anonymous

    If you ever decide to become rich and famous in Kim Dotcom’s business, the very first
    thing you want to do is a brains and foresight check. (You perform this test even before you confirm that you’re still the proud owner of your patented ten pound steel balls and reptilian ruthlessness resources.)

    Otherwise, the wealth you make wll not stay yours for long; and, your head and ass are what you’ll be losing.

    We can say that Kim is a man of heft, but the history does not prove him to be a man of great self-protective vision.

    Like, for example, if Germany has no extradition treaty with the US, what was Kim doing in New Zealand?

    Moreover, since you can’t prove what was never done or said, why is the FBI waving ten container ship’s worth of email showing Kim and his staff waxing more eloquent than William Shakespeare on everything their cyberlocker was never meant to be?

    From the point of view of everyone who seeks a different social management of intellectual property than what exists under the current copyright monopoly, the likelihood that Kim Dotcom will spent a good part of his life in prison is as irrelevant as it is predictable.

    What is relevant is the extent to which Kim’s personal low rent vision of easy wealth ends up forfeiting those hard fought DMCA safe harbor protections that make cyberlockers and uTorrent possible.

    • Rohe

      In Germany, he would be gone within a month with MU. They have insane groups with deep pockets who raid _with_ the police and act as “consultants” while they usually start the whole ligation. Its an corrupt, shady mess.

      Since Germany is the third place worldwide in US media imports, its a battle ground. Currently, producers/lawyers make quite money in Germany by trying to embezzle high settlements if you torrented music or porn with dubious charges.

      He couldn’t survive a month in the current German crooked copyright enforcement environment.

      • Anonymous

        Perhaps he should have boned up on his Russian?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-Chapman/1645869183 Rob Chapman

    New Zealand is nothing but a puppet of the United States. Welcome to the New World Order.

    • Anonymous

      Yes until the people get sick and tird and really rise up to take down the corrupt Governments.

    • Anonymous

      Most countries play puppet to the United States.

      Them being the World’s only superpower has much to do with it.

    • Anonymous

      Most countries play puppet to the United States.

      Them being the World’s only superpower has much to do with it.

  • Gorgeous George

    To a billionaire, time is by far the most valued luxury because nobody has more than 24 hours a day no matter how wealthy they are. Haha they don’t want to give him bail because he’s a jet setter and could easily slip over to China or somewhere without extradition on a private jet off the books. He would take a bit of a financial hit but that will probably happen anyway and at least he could eliminate the possible risk of spending years in prison.

  • Trem

    Free Kim. http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo217/EvolutionSik/1327297878478.jpg

    THIS IS BULLSHIT. HE’S AN INNOCENT MAN.

    • Anon

      Innocent my arse. Fat ass needs some good ol’ pounding in the prison :D

  • http://twitter.com/twistedpc twistedpc

    Everyone needs to check out http://www.djamac.com

    He is the newest and hottest dj to come out of the south!

  • al

    I wonder if this is just a publicity stunt by Kim Dotcom. I just saw a PSA released by CreativeAmerica. https://www.facebook.com/creativeamerica/posts/137466389705168
    That says without SOPA/PIPA megaupload is untouchable. Or is someone timetraveling.lol

  • Anon JJ

    Wanna bet soon Kim won’t even have money to defend himself after they suspend all his bank accounts, well once they find all of it. I am sure they are tracing his cash right now as well speak. Hope Kim is smart enough to stash away some real cash not in any banks.

    US government like all governments will surely resort to some dirty tactics to make sure Kim & his pals have jail time even if it breaks the constitution or something.

    Best of luck to him!

    • Anonymous

      That is the general plan of the Department of Punishment (ex-Justice) but unlike many people I believe Kim can manage this one.

  • Qoaa

    The real reason they jumped on him wasn’t piracy.

    He was signing deals with major recording artists. The recording artists could get rid of the middleman. By letting megaupload distribute their music the artists would make more money. Instead of having to pay labels, managers, agents and distribution leaving artists with very little left in profits. Major artists started signing with Megaupload for distribution.

    Remember this video?
    http://dai.ly/t7cBDR

    Alicia Keys, Puff Daddy, Will.I.Am, Estelle, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Lil John, Jamie Foxx, Kim Kardashian and more had already signed contracts with Megaupload.

    RIAA got SUPER PISSED that here comes megaupload with a way for their artists to make more money than staying with RIAA’s scam system. So they got super jealous and unleashed their dogs.

    Also all the artists shown in the music video who did sign with Megaupload are now under threat of being sued by the RIAA.

    http://dai.ly/t7cBDR

  • Cujo

    looks like anonymous is replacing megaupload lol

    http://www.anonyupload.com/
    https://twitter.com/Officialanonyup

    this is unverified so do your homework ;)

    • AnonOps

      Anonyupload is a scam site. AnonOps has already confirmed it.

      • Anonymous

        Yes they did. Same person who did scam before it seems.

        Also since Kim Dotcom has confirmed that MegaUpload will not return until after this court case has concluded then all sites claiming to be the new MegaUpload are clearly a scam.

  • Geust

    Maybe if he committed murder also they would allow him bail…

  • pawnofthestate

    “JMZ
    Another one of your conspiracy theories genius?”

    The only cummspiricy is that you are gay and have no intelligent comment to post

    • Anon

      Only faggots people call others gay.

      • mic

        now, that is a paradox 0.o

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  • Clock77

    I lost a bit of respect for kim dot com when he was clearly ratting on other cyberlockers which may be why a whole bunch went down after the MU raid

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  • mic

    give the poor man some bail money.. geesh

  • Jason

    The truth is in the below link, thanks DoJ for illegally destroying our files on Thursday:

    http://pastebin.com/iquHfjBa

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