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Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry)

This year alone more than 50 small restaurants, pubs and bars have been sued by the U.S. royalty collectors agency BMI for playing (live) music without a license. Many more received friendly visits from BMI lawyers urging them to pay their copyright dues, or else. This backward situation does not only affect the owners of these establishments, artists are losing gigs as well because of these public performance license shakedowns.

coconut curryA very close personal friend of mine owns a curry restaurant. A few months ago “John”, who prefers to remain anonymous, called me to catch up on life, but mostly to complain about the cost of coconut milk.

With the falling value of the dollar, the cost of imported Thai coconut milk has gone up over 400%. Restaurants don’t have a large profit margin to begin with and because of this increase in cost, John was running his restaurant on a dangerously tiny profit margin.

Factor in the ailing US economy and John was barely managing to keep his business afloat. I was happy to lend him a sympathetic, if somewhat distracted, ear. Then he mentioned a female lawyer from BMI had stopped by during the previous week’s lunch hour.

When a lawyer from BMI stops by a local neighborhood business, it’s typically not to buy something. True to form, the BMI lawyer in this story wasn’t there to support a local business. She was there for a public performance license shakedown.

BMI is a collective rights organization (CRO). A CRO collects royalties and then distributes them back to copyright owners. This is conventionally thought of as the most effective way to collect royalties and it likely is – imagine if every single music label was in charge of collecting royalties for its artists!

Royalties are an enormously important source of revenue for copyright owners. Music copyright owners in particular. When an artist gets a song played on the radio, royalties are collected and paid out. But in recent years, BMI and ASCAP (another CRO) have increasingly turned to a more obscure way to collect royalties – the public performance license.

The license is exactly what it sounds like – a license that grants the right to perform the copyrighted work of another to the public. Most people would think this only applies to live music venues with lots of different bands playing each week. But BMI and ASCAP are now actively applying this license to small, local, neighborhood businesses that decide to have a little live music for the benefit of their customers.

This is completely within BMI and ASCAP’s legal rights. But just because they have the right to do it, it does not mean they should. As my friend John put it:

“At the restaurant, we wanted to support local artists and decided to start having live music on Friday nights. It was a big success. Our customers enjoyed the music and the band was happy to have a steady gig. Several months later a female lawyer came into our restaurant during lunch and demanded we buy a public performance license from BMI. She wanted $3000!”

“Even though we only played original music, she said we should buy the license anyway. Apparently, even if the band members use something as minor as a Led Zeppelin riff while they tune-up their instruments – that’s a violation.”

John’s experience illustrates exactly why BMI’s heavy-handed bullying can have a negative impact on the future of music. It wasn’t a “let’s work together” scenario. BMI didn’t offer John any alternatives – just pay up – or else. They wanted John to get a license simply because there was a slight chance of a future violation!

The purpose of copyright law is “to promote the progress of science and useful arts.” Copyright is the financial incentive that drives creative innovation. When properly administered, copyright can be a powerful tool for fostering greater creativity. However, BMI’s public performance license bullying in this situation resulted in the exact opposite – the progress of music was suffocated. John eloquently stated the result of BMI’s threat:

“I said the hell with it! We only have music on Friday nights. It’s not worth $3000. How is a neighborhood restaurant running on a razor-thin margin in this economy supposed to afford an extra $3000? So I cancelled the band. Net result? Our customers suffered, local music suffered. A complete lose-lose situation.”

The bottom line to BMI and other collective rights organizations? Your customers are not your enemies. Promoting live music is good for BMI and the artists they collect royalties for. Working together with local businesses rather than trying to bully and intimidate them will leave all parties better off.

As for John’s restaurant, it really is a shame. The coconut curry still tastes as awesome as ever. But the lively dueling banjos in the background are gone for good.

The above is a guest post by Allan Gregory. Allan is a bar-certified lawyer in the state of Florida, with a special interest in Internet Law.

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  • cyke1

    first,
    Welcome with suing people directly is starting to fail as courts are starting to wise
    up they gotta try other means of getting their money.

    • GetFucked

      Everything you stated, although may have been on point has been made invalid by your claming of ‘first’.

      Fuck you, no one cares who posts first.

  • Momo

    It’s not just for live performances, they also ask for money for even playing the radio in your shop (even with the ads included), and like the article mentions they don’t care if you only play free music — they demand money all the same, because you could potentially play their music.

    There are many horrific stories about such organisations abusing their power, like for example asking shop assistants not to sing to themselves without a license! Remember this story from a while back? These people are thieves.

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      yep Momo….. was in the UK.

      Corner shop worker told to stop singing in her store – or pay for a performing licence
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220423/Corner-store-worker-told-stop-singing-works–pay-licence.html

      • Momo

        The BBC link I gave trumps your link to the Daily Fail. Fatality, to be accurate!

        • Zzzz

          @Momo
          The fail is that there’s no obvious sign you posted any link at all.

        • Momo

          Zzzz, it’s a hypolink. Or maybe a cryptolink. Hopefully Torrentfreak will fix that some day.

          Btw, pseudogreek words are awesome.

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          Didn’t see your link Momo……
          And agree about the Daily Fail ( scummy paper ) Was just the first link I got.
          Yeah the BBC link does trump it.

          New pseudogreek styley , well actually a madeup-o-greek word for you…. UnderlinerLinko : )

          asking shop assistants not to sing to themselves without a license

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Daily Fail? Give me a break. The Daily Mail is just as accurate as the BBC when it comes down to it.

        • Danny

          Duckfat, DailyFail has never been more accurate than anything ever!
          I wouldn’t even trust the date on the front!

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Link is in “asking shop assistants not to sing to themselves without a license! ” part, hover mouse over it.

          Well, what can I add here.. With each passing day I’m more and more certain that the file sharers are the right part and the thieves are the MAFIAA.

          It’s interesting how the broken US patent system is gaining more mainstream attention. Hopefully all the bullying and abusing from MAFIAA will get them into the spotlights in a very bad way too and then things will start changing.

          I think we are living in thrilling times. Dark but exciting and with lights at the end of the way. I’ve been following the #occupywallstreet protests in the US and wow, they managed to get mainstream! I see hope for the American with this. I truly see.

  • Stephen Young

    covers are fair use and you don’t need a license to play live music. Just tell The BMI lawyer that they are trespassing an call the cops. Now playing recorded music in public is different and you do need a license for that

    • http://insight.pinkonbrown.org Dr P Fenderson

      Actually, covers are *not* fair use. A venue in my town was sued for $90,000 ($30,000 per song) by the ASCAP for hosting a band that played a Hendricks cover and a Neil Diamond song.

      EDIT: Here is more on this: http://copyrightcommerceandculture.com/2010/02/09/cover-songs-and-fair-use/

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

        as if anyone who sues like that respects fair use….

        • cyke1

          Correction, Like Any music label respects fair use. Their idea of fair use is everyone in the world paying $ for every time they hear a song.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        Covers ARE fair use, but ASCAP doesn’t recognize this fact.

        • http://insight.pinkonbrown.org Dr P Fenderson

          No – I’m sorry, but they are not usually. USC Title 17, 110. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/110.html)

          If anyone makes any money, at any point during the performance, hosting, or transmission – it is NOT fair use. If you *change* a song and then perform it, making enough of it original to the point where it cannot be confused with the original (as the courts have ruled, acoustic covers are not good enough), THEN you can claim Fair Use. Or educational purposes. Or religious purposes.

          But if anyone makes money – it’s not.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          The recent summary judgement of Brownmark Films v. Comedy Partners (aka South Park vs the What-What in the Butt guy) seems to bolster the fact that you can make money off of a production but use Fair Use without the long trial.

          Even if that’s a parody…

          The entire problem with ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC is the fact that they do more harm than good for up and coming artists

          But I’ll still believe that music is a remix, with covers included. Basically, the rules have been changed quite a lot but there’s ongoing evidence that if a band uses covers to promote themselves then goes on to make their own work (Link) then it can’t be illegal when it feels natural.

        • Ryzzo

          @Jay

          “…even if its a parody”

          I think this ruling applies ONLY if its a parody. While I agree that a cover should be fair use, its my understanding that commercial covers have to be licensed. (think Alien Ant Farm’s Michael Jackson cover) I think there should be a distinction between a commercial cover (ie. being published on a cd and being played on the radio) and a for hire band performing a cover for a local venue. A local band performing covers at a limited venue like this should always be fair use, but I’m not sure that the letter of the law would agree. Royalty collection agencies are still the scum of the earth for trying to collect in these situations though.

    • Momo

      Songs that sound even remotely similar are considered “derivatives”… and are illegal unless you first give a big pile of cash to some faceless corporation to get the OK.

      To understand how screwed up things actually are, here’s a recent example.

      The top video is a traditional song that is still under copyright and the monopoly is owned by a record label. The second video is a rather famous song that is considered a derivative work (!) and has been ordered to pay up. Copyright is killing music :P

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        But… But… You wouldn’t steal a car!!

        I laughed warmly Momo. Good read ;)

    • Yourmom

      lol – love the idea of trespass, shop owner = occupier, lawyer – enters premises on a license, lawyer starts spewing shit, license revoked, lawyer becomes trespasser gets told to GTFO and gets the middle finger :D

    • Anonymous

      Covers are not Fair Use AT ALL. On the other hand…

      “Apparently, even if the band members use something as minor as a Led Zeppelin riff while they tune-up their instruments – that’s a violation.”

      This is absolutely untrue, and the guy should have had the balls to say, “Piss off.” How you can be a business owner and can’t be bothered to spend 5 minutes researching basic copyright law is a mystery to me.

  • me

    I have a bar band, we do original music no covers. To me this sounds like the old style mafia shakedown “Protection Money” scheme. I Really Hope I get to talk to a BMI Rep, he or she will have a bad day indeed.

    • Dannyecho

      You can get paid from BMI for playing your own “original” songs! That the whole point of that system! If you’re not registered with them do so ASAP!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        NO! DO NOT JOIN ASCRAP! JOIN JAMENDO! JOIN DMUSIC.COM! JOIN ANYTHING BESIDES AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL SCREW YOU OUT OF NEW PLACES TO PLAY FOR CHUMP CHANGE ONLY WHEN YOU GET A HIT SONG!

      • Anonymous

        With posts like that you should not give legal and/or financial advice on the net.

        For the benefit of other readers, have a read of what happens when you end up on the back of a major label here (obviously due a re-linking given the above post): http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

  • http://insight.pinkonbrown.org Dr P Fenderson

    I ran a music venue in my town for a while, and had to deal with these clowns, as well as the ASCAP and SESAC, breathing down my neck the entire time. After doing quite a bit of research, it seems that these organizations are more akin to mobsters of old shaking down businesses for “protection money”, when the protection is from them. Thanks to good old George Bush, they were federally legitimized years ago. They put 2 businesses in our area out of business – because guest bands had played a cover song or 2.

    That’s right! A band playing a cover song without the venue-owners permission was enough to cost them $30,000 per song ($90,000 total in one case). Don’t forget that these shysters take out 11% of whatever they take from the business before it even starts getting cut up to be given back to the labels – and sometimes, hopefully, to the artists themselves.

    You would not believe how many artists I’ve worked with who were previous clients of BMI/ASCAP/SESAC, all with their own unique and horrifying look at the atrocity that the licensing industry has become. At no point did I ever hear a creator express gratitude for the agency ‘protecting’ their music – I mean, ‘protecting’ the licensing companies profit margins.

    Every artist complained about the total lack of communication with artists, terrible handling of royalities, unfair percentages, misleading business practices, and just plain bad experiences. The words “scum of the earth”, “f*cking dickholes”, “money-grubbing liars”, etc, etc were thrown around a lot.

    Our venue was once threatened with huge fines for playing music that was *given to us by the artist* to play. It took months of the artist trying to reach the right people in the organization to get them to get off our backs and understand that we had permission from the artist. Needless to say they severed their contract following that fuckup.

    Just to point out, this is obviously not indicative of the relationship that every artist has with these companies. I’m sure Bono or Mark Mothersbaugh has no problem getting ahold of the right people, or getting a nice sack of cash – but I have yet to hear an artist personally relate a positive experience with any of those organizations.

    • Ven

      It’s a business, and musicians understand that PROs (Performing Rights Organizations) are a necessary evil if you want to ever earn a dime from your works being used. Your statements are similar to the question, “Why does nobody ever thank the IRS for collecting taxes?” Nobody adores the system, but there are no better alternatives.

      That said, I haven’t had a horrible time working with ASCAP. They collect massive amounts of data about when and where my music is played, and then pay me for it. I don’t like that our government allows the system to run as unregulated as it does, but the system definitely still works for getting royalties to artists.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        “It’s a business, and musicians understand that PROs (Performing Rights Organizations) are a necessary evil if you want to ever earn a dime from your works being used. ”

        They aren’t necessary but they are most certainly evil.

        ” Nobody adores the system, but there are no better alternatives.”

        Yes there is. It’s why no one in these collection agencies will ever have an open debate with those who use and endorce CC licensing.

        ” I don’t like that our government allows the system to run as unregulated as it does, but the system definitely still works for getting royalties to artists.”

        It works for a small number of people at the behest of younger artists. The ones that are already on top such as Jay-Z benefit more from the ASCAP protection than the likes of the new artists who may not have one song that’s popular.

        I got into an argument with one person about this and he couldn’t answer my questions in regards to what the new artist is supposed to do. He insisted that ASCAP pays people fairly at a rate of 8-10% (I assumed 10-15%), calling business owners ignorant for not paying the ASCAP license. Last I checked, the ASCAP license isn’t a mandatory license. It’s not supposed to be compulsory. But you’ve taken away the avenue for a new artist to get better such as a cafe, in order to pay Jay-Z more money.

    • Anonymous

      I have been playing in rock bands since 1972 and I know exactly what you mean.I have experienced these asses first hand.When we play at the club GENOS in Portland we have to make sure we do no covers any longer.And those asses sued the EMPIRE and I believe they were forced into paying them off $10000.
      Next up they will go after a radio in a store if they are not already doing that.
      Force a venue to close and it forces people into unemployment and local bands all have one less place to hang out in and play their music.
      Down With All MAFIAA !!!

      • Busterbrown7077

        Dude,
        Saw an amateur burlesque contest at Geno’s last summer. Nice Venue.
        Just saying cause I’m from California and never heard anyone talk about Geno’s

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Your comment comes as no surprise for me and all the TF readers that are not paid trolls or complete ignorant and clueless. And yet it falls to deaf ears when it concerns copyright law and politics.

      Your irony concerning Bono, Justin Bieber and others is just priceless.

  • cyke1

    Correct me if i miss read it but even playing local radio stations over the speakers is a violation? if so then BMI is trying to double dip on the license since the radio station pays money to them to play the song, ON top of that anyone with a radio of any kind that anyone else can hear music from is also in need of a license.

    • Ven

      Yes this is true. The Supreme Court upholds this because it is easier to have a PRO handle all of the licensing instead of forcing Radio stations to turn around and track who/what/where is publicly broadcasting their feed.

    • Me

      It is not a double dip. The radio station pay the license so that it can broadcast to and be heard by private citizens. However a commercial interests such as a store is (theoretically) using this music to make money: It keeps the customers in the store longer, makes them come back, etc, so therefore a commercial license is needed.

      At least that is the theory.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    “Collective Rights Organization?”

    No… That should be Performance Rights Organization (PRO). The Collective Rights has no meaning in copyright terms. Especially when BMI is known for using the *performance” right of copyright to enforce their shakedown.

    • Ven

      PROs are a smaller subset of CROs.

  • http://mineshafter.appspot.com/ download13

    Couldn’t they just tell the bands to make sure they only play original music?
    Sure it’s bad, but it’s doesn’t have to result in the whole band being cancelled.

    • Ven

      At 30K a pop for violations, would you really run the risk of:

      - A band playing 20 seconds of a cover regardless of venue rules before you could get them offstage?
      - A band playing an “original work” that totally rapes some existing copyrighted work?
      - Trying to turn around and get your 30K per song back by suing deadbeat dive musicians?

      It’s easier to pay for the license or not have live music.

      • Anonymous

        Simply put “You agree that no cover songs are to be played for any reason” in the contract along with “The management bans playing cover songs at this address”.

        There is your proof that the business never plays or approves cover songs. Should any get played this is a contract violation. Done out of control by the band despite the business banning it.

        It is also possible to say the “cover song” was not a cover song because the band is only approved to play original songs. Deny that it was a cover song and tell them to take it up with the band.

        • Ven

          They won’t take it up with a band because legally the venue is liable for the music being played.

          In court the whole thing comes down to how effectively a venue can prevent bands from playing copyrighted material. Since the venue owner/manager has no way of actually knowing if songs were copyrighted or using copyrighted material, or even if the band is in fact represented by BMI/ASCAP/SESAC, the court is going to require a commercial license for live music.

          It will be a contract violation, but the venue is on the hook for the infringement. If they choose to take the legally binding contract and try and recoup losses by taking artists to court… Well, the difference between a drummer and a large pizza is that one of them feeds a family of four.

        • http://insight.pinkonbrown.org Dr P Fenderson

          Yeah – that’s a great theory and all…but they don’t care about that. We actually had a clause in our performance contracts with similar wording, but these scumbags didn’t care. They said it didn’t matter, because – even if someone breached the contract and we banned them, the performance still took place. And that, legally, there wasn’t any way for us to tell whether or not it would happen since the courts don’t recognize precognition.

          They had one of their lawyers call me to shake us down, throwing around a lot of threatening clauses. Said that it was in our “best interest” and that if we didn’t cooperate that they could make it “very difficult to conduct business” – especially if they sent one of their plainclothes spies down to “ensure license adherence”.

      • Wwwest

        Require a contract with the band that stipulates that they are to play original music only, and that the band indemnifies the club for any copyright violations. That puts the band in the hot seat for any copyright violation.

        And since the band is not likely to have any money to indemnify, require some form of business insurance to fund the indemnity.

  • Anon

    Next thing you know you’ll be demanding the food for free, too.

    “Give all your food away….It’s good promotion!”

    • tiger97a

      no thats not right but some do give free samples away to promote it, and i personally will sing out loud any time i get damn well want to, you butt holes are getting to big for your britches and sooner or later it will bite you and then you will be wondering what happen, as more of you old farts die off and pirate party’s start getting elected we will see how high you crow then.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

        I agree with the sentiment here, but the Pirate Party needs to change its name, adopt a much broader platform, and have charismatic candidates with strong local support in order to operate in the U.S. political system. It’s not like a parliamentary system where a one-platform party can be elected or pulled into a coalition; every candidate must have wide appeal and curry the favor of a majority of people in their district, as they are the representative of the entire population there. One-issue parties are always marginalized and rarely field electable candidates or sponsor legislation that has any hope of passing. I don’t mean to discourage continued support for the cause, but copyright reform simply will not happen in the U.S. without support from the moderate, big-name parties, and even then, there’s a reluctance in Congress to make major changes, especially if it would in any way conflict with the international treaties that copyright law is largely based on.

    • AnonSucks

      Actually, there are a number of places that give food away for free. They do so to promote it. Or they lower the price on popular items to drive up sales and entice new customers to begin going to their restaurant.

      Off the top of my head, locally the following places either give food away for free, or mark down items on a regular basis: Applebees, routinely gives away items from the appetizer menu, if they see you regularly enough they’ll let you get up to 3 items. McDonald’s on Wednesdays lowers the Big Mac meal to $2.49. Little Caesar’s has a customer appreciation day once a month where you can get a large pizza for under $5 AND get some crazy stix with it. Domino’s has a similar thing about once a month as well. I know a few bars and grills give away shots or pitchers of beers on weekends. I can’t name anymore places right now, I’m seriously hungover and it hurts to think right now, but I know just from those actions, all those places have had an upsurge in business, or have a huge boom on the days they do things like that. I’ve personally asked the managers of most of those places if it helps, just out of curiosity, and I’ve been told since they started doing such things they went from just average business to higher than average to the point where “corporate” took notice and commended them and is looking into doing similar things in all their franchises/restaurants.

      Heck, groceries store routinely have this thing, you may have heard of it, FREE SAMPLES in store. Sometimes, the sample might be in regards to a type of cheese, but to get people to try it they prepare little snacks out of it. Like a taco or something and add that cheese to it. Or making sandwiches to let people try the latest offering from Oscar Mayer. Etc.

      Showtime, the tv channel, routinely has their “hit” series hit the air before the seasons start. Weeds, Californication, Dexter. All since they were first created have been somehow released onto the internet. Thus helping build a buzz for the shows. And no these aren’t horrible copies, these are better than average HD quality copies that somehow seem to leak on a regular basis. IT IS GOOD PROMOTION.

      Let’s see, the company that makes the game Portal gave away copies of the game early last month. For a week. Mostly because they found out some schools were using the game to teach physics. They decided to make it free so other schools could acquire copies and to allow people who hadn’t tried the game the opportunity to do so, thus acquiring new fans for the series and more people who would be up for purchasing Portal 2 and any other offerings they might release later.

      Hmm. So apparently, giving things away free serves to promote offerings from the companies that do so. Thus GAINING them paying customers. Because people take notice of companies that do things like that and such actions endear those companies to the people.

      Not that that matters to idiots like you. Because in your mind, free is a bad thing. In which case, cough up some money. You’re breathing air, I happen to have trees I planted in my backyard. Which are producing oxygen that you’re breathing. You have no right to anything of value without paying for it. Wouldn’t want to be considered a pirate now would you, AnonTard?

      • StevO

        Damnit. I breathed some air today…where do I send my check. I dont want you to sue me.

        • AnonSucks

          You can send it to: Happy Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield. You have the power!

          As soon as the check’s here I will send you a certified/notarized certificate saying it is okay for you to breathe oxygen which is more than likely being produced by my trees specifically. After which you will be able to breathe it as often as you please with no further monetary fees incurred by you. BUT that’s only if the check’s here by Friday. Any later and there will be a ten dollar surcharge/late fee. I need my weekend party money. And an extra ten bucks goes a long way towards the parties I end up attending/partaking in.

    • We Are The 99 Percent

      Get your greedy fingers off my wallet, you asshole!

    • Jmorse43508

      Chick-Fil-A often has promotions for free food with an additional purchase (that’s the usual caveat when there’s a free offering).

      I’ve seen similar promos at Sonic, Burger King and Whataburger.

      • AnonSucks

        Chick-Fil-A also has wear something cow-like days and get a free sandwich.

        Whataburger has wear something orange and get a free Whataburger days. In addition to of course giving away things to people who sign up with them via e-mail. Shakes, new sandwiches/burgers, etc. That’s in addition to sending out coupons by mail where you can “buy one meal, get one meal free”. Also, locally on the back of grocery store receipts there is a coupon to get a free Whataburger, no purchase required.

        Burger King routinely mails out coupons on a monthly basis with “buy one, get one free” type deals or “get this item free, no purchase required”. They also have specials when they “launch” or “relaunch” seasonal type menu items or special items. For awhile they were giving away chicken sandwiches of some sort if you purchased pretty much anything off the menu. (This was locally, not sure about nationally.) They also have specials in the afternoon, for the 5 o’clock rush hour crowd. Think it’s like a burger, fries and coke for around $2 or so.

        Sonic in the afternoons has a 5 for $5 special. Basically 5 burgers for $5. Sometimes they’ll throw in the drinks and fries as well, for an additional $.55. (I’m going based off what I’ve seen locally, not sure if they do this nationally.)

        Pizza Hut just recently had a “buy a large, get a free Pzone” special. Which they’ve now changed to “buy a large, get an additional medium for $.01 more” special.

        Dairy Queen gives away Blizzards if you sign up with them view e-mail. A free blizzard, or a “buy one, get one free” special. Depending on the e-mail. In addition to giving you one on your birthday entirely free.

        Denny’s has a day at least once a year where you can get a Grand Slam breakfast free. From the moment they open up until about 11 AM.

        There’s plenty more I can think of where various restaurants/fast food chains give away stuff for free. But I seriously don’t want to list it all. Suffice it to say, I think we’ve put Anon the clueless in his place. Giving food away is indeed a good way to promote a particular business/menu item. And serves to draw in more customers. It’s literally win/win for the places that do so.

  • Krow

    Would this be a form of censorship which would be against human rights? The freedom to express ones self? Like that shop owner who sings to her customers. You have the right to express yourselves with anyone words, and any notes you see fit. As far as I’m concerned it’s on the verge of crimes against humanity.

    • Ven

      Well lets flip the scenario around. Suppose I write happy-pop love songs that I play and post on YT. Justin Timberlake turns around and performs all of them at Madison Square Gardens. He makes over 1 million dollars from that single concert singing all my songs. Is it fair?

      The question at hand is at what point are copyrighted works being used in a way that could be construed as for-profit? Justin definitely would be screwed. If a dive bar was publicizing live shows to attract customers, they are also screwed. Depending upon how much that shop lady sang to customers, it may also be entirely reasonable to assume that live entertainment was being used by the establishment to attract customers.

      It’s hard to accept sometimes because of how there is no middle ground between a singing grandma and JT, but as long as IP is protected by copyright this is how it should be.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    It makes me laugh.
    You have the music industry blaming pirates from taking food out of musicians mouths by copying music and also blaming it for the industries’ failure to invest and nurture new talent when the truth is somewhat different.

    In truth you have piracy/p2p spreading the word and generating grassroots support for new talent and helping to fill venues and live musicians mouths without any help from the mainstream music industry while they sit there trying to regain control by trying to kneecap new talent acting outside their control.

    They are little more than protection racketeers. I thought th USA had laws against racketeering. I suppose it must be ok prividing you pay off the right gov officials.

    • Ven

      You can find this behavior in every facet of business: large companies that use their superior capital and position in the market to maintain their edge on competition.

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  • Username1

    If you dance with the devil you’re going to get burnt.

    You promote their garbage then you are inviting them into your life.

    At your business or even your youtube.
    We are not talking about fair use.
    I’m talking blatant playing of their garbage music.

    And really , if you are promoting RIAA garbage to make yourself some money then they probably should shakedown
    your dumb ass , it’s their crappy music , WTF are you doing with it ?
    You know they’re assholes to begin with , so why help them promote their music ?
    They don’t fucking care if you’re a “fan”.

    I don’t even want to wear a shirt with a logo on it these days , what am I a walking billboard ? Don’t be that.

    If you are unwilling to fight back , then it means more to them than it does to you.

    I don’t need to hear that crap at stores or anywhere else.
    I can’t stand having to hear that garbage when I’m at a store,
    and I can’t imagine wanting to hear it at a restaurant , of course I have and it was terrible LOL.

    If you dance with the devil you’re going to get burnt.

  • http://twitter.com/MarkGisleson Mark Gisleson

    As a curry house, they shouldn’t have been playing any music in English. I do PR for a Thai restaurant in Minnesota, and all they play is Thai music. I told them that if a BMI toadie ever came in to throw them out on their greedy ass.

    • Ven

      You have to be careful there: depending on the nation of origin for the music, the United States may very well have agreements that legally allow/require our PROs to collect royalties.

  • Mimioclo

    I wonder if they can post a sign that says no one working in the music industry is permitted on the premise. So that would make the evidence these scambags collected illegal.

    • Ven

      I believe that is called discrimination and can get you in much larger trouble than needing a commercial performance license.

      • Mimioclo

        Professional association is not a protected class, they have no case based on discrimination.

        • Tosser

          If they had reasonable cause (They could hear it from a public highway) to believe you were playing music they controlled the rights to they’d send you a letter about suing you.

          The easy answer then is get yourself banned from the courts :)

        • Anonymous

          @Tosser:

          “if they had reasonable cause (They could hear it from a public highway) to believe you were playing music they controlled the rights to..”

          Three things:

          1. Muffler corridor from the entrance in (required at many places to keep noise pollution down).

          2. Have you been on a “public highway”? Most of such highways are so polluted by traffic noise that you cant even hear yourself.

          3. What is reasonable is in the eye of the beholder.

          ps. btw what is up with not being able to reply to replies? Some sort of desgin flaw of Disqus?

  • We Are The 99 Percent

    I look forward to the day when those assholes are in Gitmo where terrorists belong. Yes, they ARE terrorists…financial terrorists.

    • guest

      “I look forward to the day when those assholes are in Gitmo where terrorists belong. Yes, they ARE terrorists…financial terrorists.”

      Keep in mind that BMI is operated by artists, for artists. The money collected goes directly to songwriters, composers, and music publishers. Performance royalties are a great way for artists to make money if they can’t get (or don’t want) a recording contract or if the record company tries to screw them out of royalties.

      • An Unweashed Heathen

        “Keep in mind that BMI is operated by artists, for artists.”

        Oh really? Going by this article, and others highlighting their abuses and bullying tactics, it’s operated by predatory lawyers to screw the artists and venues alike.

        “The money collected goes directly to songwriters, composers, and music publishers.”

        Citation, please? Any bands out there that haven’t been boned by the likes of BMI? The article is pointing out the opposite happening.

        “Performance royalties are a great way for artists to make money if they can’t get (or don’t want) a recording contract or if the record company tries to screw them out of royalties.”

        The labels are constantly screwing them over, have been for decades. Then thugs like BMI comes along and screws them again, by making sure they never get hired to jam at a venue.

        Nice try, BMI guy. Please troll again.

        • Ven

          BMI, ASCAP, and SESAC are all “non-profit companies” by registration. We all know that this means there is no profit sharing going on. However, estimates place events, parties, giveaways, as well as all of the regular business expenses for BMI and ASCAP to be about 100 milion dollars per year… Each.

          That said, royalties are still one of the more consistent ways for writers and musicians to earn money from their music. Also, BMI doesn’t prevent artists from playing venues, they prevent venues from attracting customers using BMI-represented artists and works.

          Also, here is a tidbit from their FAQ: “Currently, more than eighty-seven cents of every dollar of your licensing fee goes to our affiliated copyright owners.”

          I’ve seen worse.

  • Chimel31

    Well it’s nothing new, I didn’t play the radio in our tiny 2-person software programming office in Europe 25 years already, in case the postman or some salesman would come in. We couldn’t even open the windows if we paid the license, or they would have come and counted the average number of pedestrians and cars passing by in the street!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      Agreed: it’s nothing new. The author of the article seems to be surprised, but this has been going on for decades in the U.S. and abroad. BMI/ASCAP/SESAC and their European equivalents have always hassled restaurants & bars and any other venue that plays live or recorded music for the public. In the ’80s it was really bad, much worse than today.

      They collect generic fees on behalf of songwriters & publishers (not labels), and then distribute that (minus a cut) to their members. It’s a broad license, which is good in the sense that it covers everything in their repertoire, but bad in that if you only play one part of one song they represent, then you’re on the hook for the full amount. They have legal authority to do this. You also have to promise to fulfill reporting requirements about what was played.

      You don’t pay per-play, and your money doesn’t go to the composers & publishers of only the works you played; rather, it is pooled and distributed based on the aggregate reporting from everyone else who’s participating in this pyramid scheme. The money all goes right to the most-performed songwriters & publishers systemwide, essentially without regard for whose works were actually performed in your venue.

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  • sick of this

    Once again a lawyer or someone with an education in this field comes to TF to write an article, and does absolutely nothing to help the guy how this happened too.

    Here is an idea, why the hell don’t you help this guy who btw is also your friend. A lawyer turned up at his place of business and demanded a payment for something that has not happened.

    You people piss me off something rotten, your all quick to jump up and blog on the net but the minute you can help you stfu and do nothing.

    That’s all you see these days are a bunch of either educated people, or are well versed in these types of things and you don’t help what so ever.

    If the band was playing music that was not in anyway owned by anyone, then no infringement has been done, yet he had to cancel them anyway.

    Must be nice to have a friend like you.

    • Anonymous

      It would also be nice if he posted the name and contact information of the BMI lawyer. Surely she left “John” her business card in case he changes his mind. Pretty much every professional has on online presence these days, seems like “John’s” customers should have the opportunity to complain to her and BMI if they miss the music. If the story is indeed true, that the venue only played original music, then public shaming of this behavior is fair and arguably even a duty. She chooses to do the work, no Nuremberg Defense for her.

    • Sketch

      i agree with you buddy…..people are pussies these days…..I would kill a lawyer for a friend…..or even for an enemy….

      • Mwhahahaha

        And this is why he didn’t post the details. Also, y’know he’s a rational person.

        I don’t think a few dozen customer’s complaining would alter the position of BMI either.

        Seriously, do most of you think these comments thru before you post them?

        Mention certain words… lawyer being one of them, and you’re hackles are up and you fail to think about larger pictures. Sure you’re mad about it all, but just being mad isn’t enough. Wanting to hit things isn’t enough. These guys are winning because of these kinds of reactions.

        If you wanna help go be lawyers when you grow up (most of you sound like you’re about 15, so I assume there’s still time) and work against this kind of extortionist behaviour.

        As for the comments mentioning the writer of this article not offering to help his friend. Well he says he calls his friend. Which means possibly they live in different states. The writer practices in Florida. This might make it hard for him to represent his friend even if he thought he had any case against the BMI, which presumably he doesn’t as they’ve surely been very careful with how they went about this.

        Legally they have the right to do and say what they’ve done and said. The law is the problem, not this lawyer or the BMI.

        Change the law, don’t whine about the people making cash from the back of it.

        Petition, vote, campaign.

  • copywrong

    Had ASCAP and BMI done their job properly, then ’80′s band Journey would have never discovered their new lead singer, Arnel Pineda, who had posted on YouTube videos of himself performing old Journey songs (presumably without a license) in the Philippines, a country known for lax enforcement of copyright.

    Just one more example of the music industry benefitting when everyday people skirt copyright.

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  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    “The purpose of copyright law is “to promote the progress of science and useful arts.” ”
    Really? What bullshit! Copyright law has done exactly the opposite, promote the mass destruction of science (what science has to do with copyright anyway?) and arts (that don’t have any need of being “useful” anyway).

  • Sketch

    ya know i really think everyone in the world has turned into a bunch of mega pussys…..if some woman came up to me at my party and demanded 3000 dollars or even 1 dollar, I would probably knock out all her teeth and throw her under a bus……I really would, i got no problem killing lawyers for any reason, even god hates them all. 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean is nothing but a good start.

    • Mwhahahaha

      Whilst I admit I don’t like lawyers who work for money grabbing parasites like the one in this story, your reaction is frankly pathetic.
      Do you hit everything and everyone you don’t like? Comments like this really make us all look like petty rednecks. Have some responsibility towards the sharing community, and y’know, post enlightenment humanity.

  • Jimbo

    shame that no one listens to this guy, any other lawyer or the general population; unless, of course, there is a nice, big fat cheque involved. most lawyers would do the exact opposite to this guy by jumping on the band wagon to get more extortionate fees into their business

  • PowerlessPeasant

    If a derivative of a copyrighted work deserves money, imagine what we will owe Monsanto.
    Considering they copyrighted a seed, I think we’re all fucked….

  • :D

    Every business in the USA could play a live performance once a week, and the artists that make the music would still be making millions of dollars a year and living in their mansions.

    Just saying…

  • You lost the game.

    I wonder when will they start to want us to pay for for music that we might hear and movies that we might see. Or maybe even if you thought about them you will still have to pay. After all the rights belong to someone and thinking about their product violates them. You criminals, pay now or else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Wietrzykowski/100000061545242 Jeffrey Wietrzykowski

    Every time I buy a guitar, I usually swing by the shop a few times to play the different guitars they have. There are always other people there trying out different guitars and amps as well. Since it is in a public setting, is the guitar shop responsible for what their customers play? They really aren’t making any money based on performance, but the final sale may be based on the sound of the guitar/amp when the customer plays a copyrighted song.

  • Greymoon

    A lot of “covers” should be public domain by now, but the copyright length keeps rising.

    When they have stolen your culture, your money soon follows.

  • Horsemeat

    This is why I don’t ever buy music…

    I got one of their letters once about paying for a license… just because my home address is listed as commercial.

    They are a bunch of …

    If you want to support artists, go to their live performances.

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  • dave mave

    it doesn’t get any better when people just roll over for lame threats like this
    I would have simply had her escorted out of building and been done with it

  • MADASHELL

    The corporation of parasite SONY is blocking a lot of stuff posted on youtube in Germany on audio recording that does not belong to them but that they claim as their LIKE THE THIEVES THEY ARE! They are blocking MY STUFF too and I am fucking going to kill them all for that.

    THIS IS MY STUFF NOT THEIR!

    • bobobbobob36

      I went through a similar thing on my YouTube account. One of these BS companies tried to shut down a video I had posted.

      I created a music video for a friends band using all of my own video recording equipment, and I got direct permission from the band to make this video. I had to write a letter to YouTube to prevent my account from being closed down.

      This is just shameful of what these companies are doing to not only the bars and musicians, but also us video recording artists….

      GFY BMI

      • bobobbobob36

        …oh, and yes… it was their original music

  • Uyguyg

    PLAY ORIGINAL MUSIC! Sheesh!

  • http://profiles.google.com/chaz.broam Charles Broam

    Ok so this means no singing of other people’s songs that BMI handles? REALLY? This is total BULLSHIT! Who is the idiot who made this legal? This should be stricken from the books immediately.

  • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

    IPR sucks period.

    Fuck you Allen.

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  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    The industry fascists and their slimy lawyer trolls are destroying culture simply because they see their own DEATH in continuing to rip-off artistes AND consumers.

    Good business strategy guys, huh? lol

    • Anonymous

      If ever the revolution comes, I would not want to be a record studio executive.

      • An Unwashed Heathen

        The revolution has arrived. Wall Street has been occupied. So take a clue and go occupy Hollywood!

        • Anonymous

          Revolution?
          It’s more of a disorganized mass mob demonstration atm. and I’m struggling to put heads and tails as to what demands they have besides “change” (to what exactly? How will they ensure it is better than what you have now and have the checks and balances needed to prevent the atrocities that lead you all to this protest?).

          As to occupying Hollywood (rather disband it and give power over finances back to the production studios as opposed to the distribution cartel), I’m not an US citizen (therefore not a voter and thus my opinion means squat to your politicians and their lobbyists) and have no intention of setting foot in America (lovely anti terrorism laws you have over there, thanks but I’ll stick to what few protections I have left here in Australia while they last [US FTA, ACTA etc making me very worried about what the Salami effect has in store for my own future here at home]).

        • An Unwashed Heathen

          @DoN0tReply,

          “It’s more of a disorganized mass mob demonstration atm. and I’m struggling to put heads and tails as to what demands they have besides “change” (to what exactly? How will they ensure it is better than what you have now and have the checks and balances needed to prevent the atrocities that lead you all to this protest?).”

          Yeah, I get you. You’re confused.

          Maybe this can enlighten you a little.
          link: http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

          {ahem}

          Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
          Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA
          This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on september 29, 2011

          As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

          As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

          They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
          They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
          They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
          They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
          They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
          They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
          They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
          They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
          They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
          They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
          They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
          They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
          They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
          They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
          They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
          They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
          They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
          They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
          They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
          They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
          They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

          To the people of the world,

          We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

          Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

          To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

          Join us and make your voices heard!

          *These grievances are not all-inclusive.

          Remember, you too are the 99%.

        • Ven

          @An Unwashed Heathen

          I’m in agreement with DoN0tReply: the declaration you posted and linked to is merely a list of generalized complaints about large corporations that dominate most facets of industry.

          So great, they hate big business. The sad reality is that big business supports most of the things we/you/them take for granted: food variety, internet infrastructure, reasonable prices on everything….

          If you take a look at the standard of living from 200 years ago, and realize that the long list of things we have now that they would have considered luxuries are the direct result of big business lowering prices enough for the population at large to afford them.

          So if you/they/whoever wants to break the cycle, instead of sitting on Wall Street (where I can guarantee nobody cares), they need to go out and convince the public at large to end their addictions to cheap brand-name beer, fast food, clothing, electronics, cigarettes, utilities, toiletries, and everything else that isn’t sold with a cardboard sign.

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  • Anonymous

    we often see/read here about what ‘file sharers’ should do, what ISPs should do to keep the entertainment industries from, basically, ruling the world. isn’t it about time businesses that are affected by copyright and patent laws stepped up to the plate as well? tell the industries where to go? if necessary, join together and go to court en mass! after all, they are affected financially even more, particularly when they do their best to remain within the legal boundaries

  • Anonymous

    we often see/read here about what ‘file sharers’ should do, what ISPs should do to keep the entertainment industries from, basically, ruling the world. isn’t it about time businesses that are affected by copyright and patent laws stepped up to the plate as well? tell the industries where to go? if necessary, join together and go to court en mass! after all, they are affected financially even more, particularly when they do their best to remain within the legal boundaries

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  • Sanity_Vocal

    Sounds like a old style mafia shakedown. Pay Protection (license) so future ‘accidents’ don’t happen.

    Does the Ricco statues apply here?

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  • Jamarson

    You know, here in Brazil they do the same thing, actually we have a larga gov. organization that does that. the ECAD. It’s bassically a central office that gets all these royalties and is supposed to give them to the artist.

    Of course that never happens. And I still have to pay a monthly fee so i can keep my radio on.

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