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OiNK.cd Servers Raided, Admin Arrested

The servers of OiNK.cd – one of the most popular private BitTorrent trackers – are raided and the admin, a 24-year-old man from Middlesbrough, is arrested.

OiNK.cd Servers Raided, Admin ArrestedThe British and the Dutch police both contributed to the investigation that was initiated by the IFPI and the BPI, two well known anti-piracy organizations. The operation was supported by Interpol who coordinated the international cooperation.

According to early reports OiNk’s servers were confiscated in Amsterdam last week. This seems to be unlikely because the site was still fully functional 24 hours ago. The administrator of OiNK was arrested this morning by the Cleveland Police. The BBC reports that his employer and the home of his father were raided as well.

Jeremy Banks, Head of the IFPI’s Internet Anti-Piracy Unit, said in a reponse to the news: “OiNK was central to the illegal distribution of pre-release music online. This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure. This was a worldwide network that got hold of music they did not own the rights to and posted it online.”

OiNK hosted hundreds and thousands of torrents with over a million peers which makes it more popular than most public trackers. The site was known to be one of the first places where leaked music albums appeared, so anti-piracy outfits such as MediaDefender were keeping a close eye on it.

In July the tracker already changed its name from OiNK.me.uk to OiNK.cd due to “legal” issues with their domain registrar. Unfortunately it now seems that the popular private BitTorrent tracker is in bigger trouble.

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  • tmt

    Hope you’ll be ok Alan.

  • lee welton

    Goodbye Oink. It was fun while it lasted :(

  • bj

    wow

  • :(

    :(((

  • Anonymous

    Ruh Roh!

  • adam2z

    primitive bastards.

    Good luck to all the oink team.

  • Anon

    noooooooo

  • member 1

    damn, oink was my favourite music site :( big loss for me. hope that they won’t go after the users.

  • member 1

    and wish you the best, admins/moderators!

  • Anonymous

    Oink was always shifty I rekon.

    Stick with Demonoid and TPB and you’ll do just fine.

    Weren’t you telling us just 3 days ago to join oink?

  • Anonymous

    Back to usenet!

  • HYPD

    Big loss for the community.

  • Tich

    I sure hope OiNK will be back in one form or another.
    Good luck to OiNK and anybody else facing troubles, you’ve got my support!

  • Anonymous

    Spit roasted!

    Farewell OiNK.

  • fusen

    for all the regular oink users this will be a big blow :(

    Anyone got any other private good music sites that could rival oink? I could never find any…

  • Bitch

    FUCK OFF POLICE

  • Brit

    it seems like the fuzz are crackin down, this is the second shut down of a british site in a week

  • samd102

    Can anyone give me an update on all this? I can’t access the site (Tues. 23/10) and I’m wondering if this will be the end for a great site that I was only just starting to use!

  • salmon
  • Marcel

    Maybe TMT knew something already. He did some changes in the past few days to hide the uploaded torrents from the user profile to increase our security :(

    A very sad day again.

  • A

    Damn it! DAMN!

  • Anonymous

    This is a very sad day. Hope the admin are o.k. I heard the news on BBC Radio 5 live. They referred to the site as Oink.co.uk and stated that users have to pay a subscription to use it. A blatant lie or just bad journalism?

  • Anonymous

    That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.

  • glassandahalf

    A very very sad day.

  • Anonymous

    sad day.

    prison?[/naive]

    is there a fund?

  • Anonymous

    It’s aint sad for me at all. I loved it. Being such a popular website and not being able to get in. TorrentLeech’s next!

  • dont hang your heads

    Its only a loss if we think it is one, lets start a thousand new music trackers to fill the role!

  • tmacedo
  • Weirdcore

    GOD DAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK!!! they police are such dumb shits and don’t realise why we have websites like these, do they! All my hardwork to keep my ratio good, fucking wasted. Twats

  • smart one

    while your sitting here complaining you out to be cleaning the evidence off your hdds.

    crybabies.

  • the_dark_nerd

    Can they use the information on the server to catch users? Or are there so many they wouldn’t bother?

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193012"]while your sitting here complaining you out to be cleaning the evidence off your hdds.

    crybabies.[/quote]

    You are probably right about that.

  • smart one

    can they? yes.

    will they? who knows.

  • Gossi

    I’d imagine they will go after the people leaking high profile albums using the IP logs etc on the servers.

  • Robbie Liu

    I am really shocked when hearing the news. Oink is the best, having scene releases as well as many users’ self-rips, always with high sound quality. Scene release is actually not hard to get but AFAIK there is no alternative for users’ slef-rip content.

  • Anonymous

    The King is dead… long live the King

    http://www.libble.com

  • erik dsd

    way dont just move the server to .se ? :-9 i hope they have a backup off the site.

  • JJ

    [quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]

    Sounds like sour grapes to me. The community was set up to engender respect and good will amongst its users. You display neither.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="192976"]Oink was always shifty I rekon.

    Stick with Demonoid and TPB and you’ll do just fine.

    Weren’t you telling us just 3 days ago to join oink?[/quote]

    lmao demonoid is shit

  • Anonymous

    Oink was absolutely great.
    The strict rules on the quality and classification of the uploads kept it really good.

    All you needed to do to join was show your accounts on some other private trackers to prove you would seed, and you were in. Just join the public invite channel on the oink IRC.

    This is bad news :(

  • Anonymous

    We are all heroes!

    ExHD out the window, job done :D

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193021"][quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]

    Sounds like sour grapes to me. The community was set up to engender respect and good will amongst its users. You display neither.[/quote]

    You are an idiot to think you are doing good for supporting piracy.

  • Anon

    The servers will be up and running again soon…. TPB style.

  • Danny

    Im sorry to hear that OiNK.
    Goodluck.
    And all the stuff too.
    There in it too.

    Manily OiNK and TMT will be taking the shit for our great time.

    Well be thinking of you OiNK and staff.

  • COng Cac

    The moderators where arrogant. You visit the IRC for help you get kicked. The site op’s often asked for donations, and make a profit from file sharing of music.

    To me, it servers him right. He was doing something illegal, even worse making money out of P2P.

  • Anonymous

    is the oink irc channel down as well? please give address :)

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193026"][quote comment="193026"]you are an idiot…[/quote]it’s hardly a dirty little wank is it. it’s sharing and finding new music. of course [i]it is[/i] a positive phenomenon, i mean.

  • Anonymous

    As you can see from this story, everything is just fine!
    [quote comment="192990"]Can anyone give me an update on all this? I can’t access the site (Tues. 23/10) and I’m wondering if this will be the end for a great site that I was only just starting to use![/quote]

  • Anonymous

    Wow…

    Just wow…

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193028"]The moderators where arrogant. You visit the IRC for help you get kicked. The site op’s often asked for donations, and make a profit from file sharing of music.

    To me, it servers him right. He was doing something illegal, even worse making money out of P2P.[/quote]

    Hardly – did you have any idea what kind of servers they were running? These things cost a bomb and the site ran like a dream because of it.

    The style of moderation made the site what it is, and I’d hardly call it arrogant. Maybe you’d like to try doing something on a similar scale to see how you coped. :/

  • JJ

    [quote comment="193025"][quote comment="193021"][quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]

    Sounds like sour grapes to me. The community was set up to engender respect and good will amongst its users. You display neither.[/quote]

    You are an idiot to think you are doing good for supporting piracy.[/quote]

    Noboday contests the arguments for/against music sharing/music piracy. Unfortunately some users don’t buy music at all. Personally, I and many other people I know that use the service download and buy the music which captures your imagination the most. That way, the people that deserve your money, get your money. Not the bands that have a load of money to throw at advertising and shoving the music down your throat.

  • Man

    Sucks. At least there’s still indietorrents? Ehh, it’s not the same.

  • manicmac

    Well to number 39….Demonoid is still here….that speaks volumes…I hate to see any tracker go….but thats the chance they take nowdays.

  • anon

    I was always brought up being taught that sharing was good. Thank you OiNK for staying true to those values and the values of many, many good people…you will be missed sorely.

  • fxr

    most private trackers ask for a donation to help in the upkeep of the site, to suggest that the site was run as a purely money making exercise is a pretty lame.

    if it was for that, it would have a completely open pay for membership.

  • Jack Knife

    Wonder how far back Oink kept the donation logs…

  • SantaBJ

    Anyone wanna bet how long it will take for a replacement to be up?

    Heh… they really do not get the Hydra-like nature of the P2P community, do they? It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

  • purenitro

    r.i.p oink. a mighty fucking website, it was great and amazing while it lasted.

    i hate to be that guy to ask but , WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T THEY THINK OF THIS AND HOST THE CONTENT IN SWEDEN ?!

  • Anonymous

    Im a torrentleech pu…i know their servers are in the Netherlands..when are they gunna be hit>>>> fuking sick.

  • Anonymous

    I made a donation recently – afaik it was via paypal, wasnt it?!

  • anon

    not the oink!?

    radiohead.. trent.. help us!

  • nolegs

    Damn! This is such a shame.

    I don’t think there was any tracker that could compete in terms of volume of house music. Anybody have any other recommendations?

  • Marcel

    #46: The IRC was in the same server, it’s down too.

  • mike

    I never used oink. I didn’t know a single person who used it, which basically meant I was bared from ever using it.

    Goes to show that being private didn’t do shit for them, considering the TPB and Demonoid are still up.

  • lol

    he would get my simpathy if it wasn’t some elitist private tracker.

  • bugzie

    love you piglet! hope all goes well and things aren’t too shitful at the moment.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously though, how is a tracker like that supposed to stay under the lid if sites like this one post reports on it like it’s everyone else’s business?

    I’m talking about this:
    http://torrentfreak.com/oink-is-alive-learn-how-to-access/

    .. which is just very very stupid.

  • paul

    he lives about 20 minutes away from me, poor bloke – i hope he’s ok.

  • samd102

    What’s the likelihood of OiNK returning to the web? Is this the definite end?

    I heard that The Pirate Bay have been raided several times but they always seem to return….How come they are able to shut down one site and not the others that are still here (Demonoid etc etc)?!

    It will be a real shame if OiNK never returns. It was exclusive.

  • oops

    guess im off home to remove my drives then….hope a replacement site pops up soon!

  • Anonymous

    Nothing wrong with elitism. Keeps the trash out.

  • :(

    Oh A sad day…..

    Bye bye OINK

    May the Pig phoenix rise.

  • Tox

    The cops were really pissed about UK Garage being renamed.

  • SuperSnout

    Today is a very very sad day. My thoughts are with you admins.

    Anyone know of a temporary irc channel or something?

  • Mik

    can someone give me an invite to OiNk please?

  • Anonymous

    OiNK.cd – because music industry just doesn’t work right.

    It is a sad day for music.

  • gunmetal

    they can’t catch osama bin laden, but man they are really going after people who love music, but hate the industry. i’m so glad all my tax money is going to busting computer people, those computers are so complicated n@ they must be dangerous…

  • Nick

    Oh , the very sad day for P2P comunity

  • io

    #75 irc.dal.net #oink

  • russ

    Oh no, a dude that was profiting (yes, that’s right) from pointing peeps to copyright infringing works gets busted.

    Good, I’m glad because whilst I think the movie/music studios make stupid amounts of money from us and ought to be ashamed of themselves you can’t correct that “wrong” by doing another.

    So sad that people have lost the ability to tell right from wrong.

    And it shows how “loyal” the “community” is when the first things they ask is if anyone knows of an “alternative”.

  • PM

    OiNK.cd – because music industry just doesn’t work right.

    It is a sad day for music.

  • bill

    Well you create a closed community like this and someone is gonna get pissed and report you.

  • Stuck

    fuckers fucking fuckers…

    sorry to use profanities but damn, oink.cd rawked fo sho. \m/

    thanks to the admin willing to take the can for all us ppl.

    BiG RESPECT TO YOUZE. THANKS FOR ALL THE JOY YOU’VE BOUGHT TO MY FRIENDS AND i.

  • jack

    Man this really sucks. I hate em.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193028"]The moderators where arrogant. You visit the IRC for help you get kicked. The site op’s often asked for donations, and make a profit from file sharing of music.

    To me, it servers him right. He was doing something illegal, even worse making money out of P2P.[/quote]

    They never asked for money. Learn your shit before you start talking our of your ass like the reports are.

  • builder9

    I cant say Im too bothered. It was good but the users were so self righteous. Their way or the highway. I was having a tough enough time getting a decent ratio without them on my back. It just goes against the idea of a community really. I especially didnt like the zero tolerance of free stuff, even if it was disappearing off the net!

  • Anonymous

    Give them a few months to match everyone up IP Address with ISPs, Donations, etc and you’ll see a glut of people being sent nasty law suit action letters strong arming for money.

    This is going to be cash cow for them (pun intended).

  • Belligerent Engine

    Eh, closed trackers come and go. That’s basically the way things happen these days. The only stable thing around seems to be, unsurprisingly, TPB… well that and eztvefnet.org, they’re cool.

    I’m kinda thinking that a more sustainable model for warezing would be to have more specialized communities rather than one big private one which the likes of demonoid etc. are seeming to want to become. With piles of public trackers and DHT this sort of thing might work… if it weren’t for control freaks thinking that ratio enforcement is gonna matter at all (I’ve had a 25-meg download from demonoid open for like three days now, it’s coming down at an astounding 0.4 KiB/s on average…)

  • hasteoath

    R.I.P

    oink

    :(

  • blues

    For one they cannot go after his paypal account cause its donations.

    and the reason why the pirate bay did not get fully shut down cause there copyright law is diffrent then in other countries, remember the raid, read about it before askin weired ?.. and its not ilegal to host .torrent files on a website its ilegal to host the acutal copywrite movies/mps/etc on the servers. most sites just index torrent files. which is fully legal to do.

    hence these sites still around

  • Anonymouse.

    To the anonymous asshole complaining about private trackers, supporting piracy and his lack of invitations.

    Remember, for every one that goes down, 5 more come up, usually ones of decent regard as well.

    Thank you Tier 4 and 5 and may you provide us with a new stream once an adequate sponsor is available again.

  • A

    http://www.oink.cd

    “The website http://www.oink.cd is currently offline.”

    What’s going on?

  • john

    People who claim he profited from it are idiots..
    A site as massive as that, cost a lot more to run than they’d ever get out of voluntary donations

  • sUss

    why are people still choosing to host websites in their native countries or in US/Europe, why not shell out for the security garunteed with hosting in Russia/Sweden

  • Anonymous

    To those posting bitching comments I am sad to see that whilst taking part in the general warez scene you have never learnt what it was about.

    A very sad day, I do wonder if there is some kind of back up plan to get the server up again, they were always thinking and moving these guys.

    I will say R.I.P until we can join again ;)

  • Charlie

    The mdoerators shouldn’t have insisted that only illegal stuff be put up. I couldn’t even upload software without a crack. Now thats bad

  • Cutter3

    I agree, warez sites should be about preservation and avoiding filling up your house with useless bits of plastic and cardboard.

  • Anonymous

    let the virus’s decedend upon those who dare cross us(IFPI, BPI and the Dutch and English Police)!!!

  • Anon

    A cute policeman is a must. Preferrably a stuffed one.

    If you need one, ask for the copyright department.

  • Bhahaha

    Sucked in. Elitist garbage like this is no better than RIAA anyway and I’m pleased these fuckers are out of action.

  • Anonymouse.

    I seriously have to wonder if IFPI won’t get DDoS’d like RIAA etc. did when they started in on all the raids etc.

    I certainly hope someone slams the living shit outta their servers for the next 2 months. Maybe even juice up actual bandwidth cost allocation instead…

  • Charlie

    [quote comment="193099"]let the virus’s decedend upon those who dare cross us(IFPI, BPI and the Dutch and English Police)!!![/quote]

    Viruses are so last week. They do more damage to real people than big organisations anyway. I’m gonna go play a bit of pro evo and forget this stupid invention they call the internet. I only got it to download old cartoons anyway

  • Alex

    we’re gonna win this battle people… the record companies are afraid of us

  • SomeDude

    It’s 1′s and 0′s people….

  • awful news

    my tail is no longer curled :(

  • FTW!

    The website http://www.oink.cd you are trying to visit is unreachable.

    For reasons please visit news channels on google or related.

  • purenitro

    everyone visit http://www.riaa.com and click refresh. let’s ddos them with our anger :)

  • Anonymous

    Quit complaining about the elitism you attribute to Oink. If this wasn’t a private tracker, this would have happened a lot sooner.

    ]:

  • To much time at the Trough!

    LEADERS / FEEDERS / SEEDERS

    and the chasing BLEEDERS

  • n00bis

    It’s funny how most of the flame jobs on here sound more like scorned little brats who didn’t get their candy. It’s a private community for a reason, and that reason is you.

    I loved Oink, was proud to be one of it’s members, and will definitely feel the loss. The bright side of it is, no matter how many sites they try to take down, no matter how many people they try to sue, we will never stop. It just won’t happen. Unless you decide to take down the net, or make it so unattractive and controlled that people just ditch it altogether and get back to analog life again, we will always be here….sharing with eachother. Until you get it right.

    There is a right way to do this. I’ll give you a hint. I paid $26 american for the new radiohead album online. Why don’t you “people” in the industry pay attention to that, you might learn something.

    see you again soon oinkers.

  • 00

    It’s funny how most of the flame jobs on here sound more like scorned little brats who didn’t get their candy. It’s a private community for a reason, and that reason is you.

    I loved Oink, was proud to be one of it’s members, and will definitely feel the loss. The bright side of it is, no matter how many sites they try to take down, no matter how many people they try to sue, we will never stop. It just won’t happen. Unless you decide to take down the net, or make it so unattractive and controlled that people just ditch it altogether and get back to analog life again, we will always be here….sharing with eachother. Until you get it right.

    There is a right way to do this. I’ll give you a hint. I paid $26 american for the new radiohead album online. Why don’t you “people” in the industry pay attention to that, you might learn something.

    see you again soon oinkers.

  • FlacInHell

    Poor Alan.

    Here’s some useful legal advice…. as I hacked your PC a few years ago (remember that?) how can the police prove it was you doing anything from that PC and not me? ;)

    Why does a great site like OiNK die and some Nazi-infested scumhole like Pedro’s gets to live? Such is life….

    P.S. Alan busted and not TMT…. Why just the good guy and not his arrogant cocky sidekick in the stocks?

  • Zelz

    It’s amazing that how many bitter people are glad this happened . . they’re rather have the corporations n shit over a little elitism and shitloads of good music.

  • Once Again..

    While I was not a 0iNK user, sad to see another site taken down but once again, as I’ve stated before, TPB has an excellent thing going that for some reason people are NOT taking advantage, PRQ.SE, why don’t all torrent sites use this for hosting?….to me it just seems to make complete sense, get hosted by PRQ, have the backing of TPB crew and “security” that they bring, I know for damn sure if I was to set up a torrent site, I’d be hosting it there and not worry abt it…I mean c’mon…Am I the only one that see’s sense in this option?

  • mj

    Oh my god! They killed Kenny… You bastard!!

  • Fborb

    RIP Oink :( , we’ll keep downloading anyway, no matter what, twice as much as before.

  • Sucked in

    If you put off alot more people than you serve because you want to be elite then don’t act surprised when everyone cheers when you get fucked over.

    Hip Hip Horaah!! Die you elitist fuckers!!

  • Naxalite

    have you noticed the rhetorical misinformation disseminated by the ‘news’ and authorities. They’ve said you had to show access to pre-released material to join. They call it a “closed criminal network”. They imply we paid to be a part of it.

    What about the closed network of authority the public pays to enforce their wishes? Oh wait, thats taxes and police…

  • Scott

    Please don’t take bittorrent down, tha t would just be disastrous for any person who likes entertainment.

    As i’m sure it’s been said before, what about all the hardcore drug dealers? Oh yeah, because that would mean the chance of getting hurt where instead they can arrest a nice safe man who is doing no harm at all, just creating a community.

  • cottonseed

    [quote comment="193115"]Poor Alan.

    Here’s some useful legal advice…. as I hacked your PC a few years ago (remember that?) how can the police prove it was you doing anything from that PC and not me? ;)

    Why does a great site like OiNK die and some Nazi-infested scumhole like Pedro’s gets to live? Such is life….

    P.S. Alan busted and not TMT…. Why just the good guy and not his arrogant cocky sidekick in the stocks?[/quote]

    hehe..Still can’t let go of your feud with Pedro’s, can you FiH? LOL…Sorry to see you still have not gotten a life after all these years. ROFLMAO

  • Anonymous
  • Ty©oon

    [quote comment="192992"]www.stmusic.org[/quote]

    they are hosted on leaseweb the same as oink so god knows how much longer they’ll last

  • Programmer

    heard of them but I rarely download music. I personally don’t see the logic in spending 2yrs on an investigation and probably millions of dollars just to take down a site that inevitably will cause the surge in members to look elsewhere and make some other site famous and make it reach the status of the one fallen. The corporations bitch about how they lose money, which i’m sure they do, but it seems like they lose way more money trying to investigate, bribe, and prosecute people who will never be able to pay restitution. The problem lies within their strategy. They need a new one cause torrents and technology ain’t going anywhere.

    These old corporate cronies are seeing their grasp on the public dwindling and are in a panic so they do what CORPORATIONS do best…SUE! It makes me sick cause they act like they have been on the straight and narrow ever since they started…PLEASE! Corporate scandals have been all the rage over the last 5-10yrs with their greedy fingers in the cookie jar finding ways to cheat taxes and all the other greedy tactics. HYPOCRITES!

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193124"]hehe..Still can’t let go of your feud with Pedro’s, can you FiH? LOL…Sorry to see you still have not gotten a life after all these years. ROFLMAO[/quote]
    Still working on getting the EU domain. Don’t worry, if the RIAA scum don’t get Pedro’s I will ;)

  • Oink, gone?

    The whiners complaining about elitism are usually the ones who hit and run on the sites and are banned for various site violations. Look folks, according to current law dissemenation of copyrighted materials without permission is illegal. So, what is your problem with those who take the risks, certainly not yourselves, who have decided to mitigate these risks by instituting a invite only system? It is not elite, it is smart. I am sure it was one of you haters that probably tipped off the authorities. That’s usually the case.

  • a fking musician

    [quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]

    your an idiot, thats why it was so good

  • ob

    It’s surely a sad day for music! Oink was great and introduced me to loads of new bands.

  • CNjim

    Sad news.
    O found the site gone around 4:30AM (EST) last night. The wierd thing is the trackers seem to be still up as one of my downloads is still running as i type this and others were uploading hours after the site came down. Hope they have a backup somewhere that wasn’t found yet. If not just wait a few months and they’ll be 100′s of new piggies.

    P.s. demoinoid is still up and is a great alternative but i have to use the proxy site to get in.

  • Vooduu94

    We will miss you deeply OiNK. :(

  • booga1134

    [quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]
    I agree, good riddance!

  • Anonymous

    oh yeah
    whatever happened to good ol fashioned p2p software

    Soulseek is still running fine

  • Johnthebar

    The people saying it was elitist confuse me. It wasn’t very hard to find an invite to this site at all if you did a bit of asking around, I had 6 invites available before they shut it down. The standards and rules may have been a bit taxing for some (most of my mates were kicked off for crappy ratios) but those rules helped keep it a high quality goldmine for music.

    The way it’s being reported as a pay to leech site is a bit off. I bet these guys made bugger all off donations once they’d paid all the server overheads.

    RIP Oink.cd I for one will miss you.

  • Baeh

    Elitist fuckers? …Probabbly :-D

    It wasn’t that much effort in to get an invite, was it? Loved OiNK, good luck guys.

  • bbc_propaganda

    Copy of complaint sent to BBC about their article on the OiNK closure/arrests….

    This article is factually corrupt and devoid of any journalism. It has simply repeated points from an IFPI press release ( http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20071023.html ) as facts without any attempt to verify their validity. The IFPI is representing the claims of an embattled and outdated recording industry and therefore its claims should be taken with a pinch of salt as it has its own goals and agendas which the BBC is blindly advocating.

    Examples of factual inaccuracies :-

    “”Members paid ‘donations’ via debit or credit cards, ensuring their continued access to the site.”"
    Incorrect, there was no pressure at all on members of the site to donate, and users would not lose their accounts if they did not. By far the majority of the 180000 ish registered users had not donated.

    “Users were only invited to join the site if they could prove that they had music to offer, according to an IFPI spokesman.”
    Incorrect, there was no pre-requisite for joining the site other than receiving an invite from an existing user.

    “He said: “They were encouraged to distribute recordings in the torrent file format with other OiNK members, and have to keep posting such music to the site to maintain their membership.”"
    Incorrect, users do not need to post music to maintain their membership. The site worked on a ‘share and share alike’ principle (ratio) where for every X MB of data downloaded, Y MB of data would have to be uploaded. For the layman, the more music you take, the more you have to share back to other users.

    “”Within a few hours of a popular pre-release track being posted on the OiNK site, hundreds of copies can be found further down the illegal online supply chain.”"
    Misleading, digital music sharing isn’t like taking out the source of a drug supply chain. Because people are simply trading information there are hundreds of sources and destinations, to imply that by taking out OiNK the supply chain has been cut is incorrect.

    I would like to make an official complaint about the poor journalism shown in this article. I resent reading recording industry propaganda represented as fact.

  • d

    I was a member for years, never paid a dime, never uploaded a pre-release album, just maintained a 1:1 ratio by uploading when I needed to. To me, they were good people, and gave me access to a lot… so so much good music I could never have got access to otherwise. Oink was practically a public service…with a ratio demand. I wonder if anything else will ever compare, or were these golden days of high quality obscure albums…

  • Anonymous

    yeah the rules gave the torrents unbeatable quality. where else could you find 6 month old torrent still seeded to full capacity
    the only rule i didnt get was the ‘cute avatar’ rule :\

  • Anonymous

    A very very sad day. I have widened my musical taste considerably from Oink, and owe Oink and TMT etc much gratitude. I’m really gonna miss it.

  • peace_to_oink

    from hungary!

  • Anonymous

    Goddamn!
    Oink made me discover so much new music. I actually bought quite some stuff that I got off Oink because it was so good. You never hear that in the media don’t ya?

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193065"]The cops were really pissed about UK Garage being renamed.[/quote]

    Lol mate :D

  • Koei

    [quote comment="193115"]Poor Alan.

    Here’s some useful legal advice…. as I hacked your PC a few years ago (remember that?) how can the police prove it was you doing anything from that PC and not me? ;)

    Why does a great site like OiNK die and some Nazi-infested scumhole like Pedro’s gets to live? Such is life….

    P.S. Alan busted and not TMT…. Why just the good guy and not his arrogant cocky sidekick in the stocks?[/quote]
    *hugs flacinhell

  • proud invitee

    hahaha it’s fun to see all the jealous people who never got invited, YOU GUYS MISSED OUT HAHAHA SUCKS FOR YOU, oink could not be compared to demonoid or piratebay it was in its own league…

  • Anonymous

    Life is over.

    Well, those complaining they couldn’t get on Oink never had one anyway.

  • dmp

    awwww no. i’d been a member for 3 months and believe me, it’s difficult to see the hype until you’ve been on the site, it really was the most amazing torrent site i’d ever been on with access to pretty much everything i could ever want.

    fortunately, there are so many other amazing torrent sites out there, i just need to get my hands on some invites for some of them :)

  • Anonymous

    BBC Radio 1 report had a claim from a BPI Goon that the OINK admin made hundreads of thousands of pound from the site…. mmmhhhh sounds like more BPI bull to me BUT if it’s true, I have zero sympathy…

    I guess thats what the BPI wants to achive by spreading such shite around!

  • Anonymous

    LOL @ 142!!

  • tore

    Sad Sad Day….

  • Anonymous

    This sucks!

  • AnonAnon

    Any thoughts about what’s going to happen to Oink’s users?

  • Someone

    Sad day for the community and for the good music

  • Spidey

    [quote comment="193148"]A very very sad day. I have widened my musical taste considerably from Oink, and owe Oink and TMT etc much gratitude. I’m really gonna miss it.[/quote]
    With you on that.

  • oink 2.1

    not happy oink was the best at what it did. not shit rar files or 120 bitrates. hope they will be back in some form.

  • Anonymous

    what are the implications for users?

  • dmp

    as if he made hundreds of thousands! really?! the only income the site got was donations, there were no ads, nothing. with 180,000 users they reckon he got that much money? what a crock of bollocks.

  • mark

    im glad oink is gone. i couldent get an invite. at least wtih sites like demonoid u had a chance.

  • Mohamed

    Good luck Alan

  • Flippy

    Poor guy

  • Anonymous

    life as i know it is OVER.

  • Anonymous

    you could get an invite if you tried. there was a post on a public forrum requesting invites. many people asked and recieved. not hard at all to keep up a good ratio. I have not been with oink more than 8 days and my ratio topped 4.0.

  • Anonymous

    should we not just choose a replacement site and try and recreate oink over there?
    what’s indietorrents like?

  • DBH

    I just met my roommate… he had Oink and I like music so he gave me an invite. Whats elitist about that?

  • adde

    [quote comment="193050"]Damn! This is such a shame.

    I don’t think there was any tracker that could compete in terms of volume of house music. Anybody have any other recommendations?[/quote]

    try http://www.trancetraffic.com

    man i’m so sorry oink. i hope to see you again.

  • tbh

    In my opinion, the music industry should learn from oink how to properly distribute their products.

    If they’d sell music with proper quality and service without lame restrictions, they’d get far more money.
    But no, they rather waste money on taking sites down, that come back in form of a new site anyways, instead of spending it on improving their service and quality of their products.

    Whatever, those braindead hypocrits will never learn anyways :f

  • Anonymous

    155 Oct 23, 2007 at 14:46 by markQuote mark
    im glad oink is gone. i couldent get an invite. at least wtih sites like demonoid u had a chance.

    thats why it was so good keeping people like you out

  • Anonymous

    This ruined my month

  • zawadi

    nice work. Sorry that kid had too get into so much trouble, but the entertainment industry is loosing billions because of people like him, who are just trying to give stuff away free.

    nice thought but if he was the one loosing money, he would not be so willing to give it away.

  • Anonymous

    This is just sad.

  • Skylor

    Where will I get Leopard now?!

  • jo

    the biggest lost since audiogalaxy

  • n0xie

    I lol’ed.

    Although Alan is a bastard I hope he’ll be ok. Good luck to TmT and the rest….

  • ARRRRG

    The record industry will never win.. OiNK was amazing (my source for international music), and the pissed of community will surely start another one. Just remember to send me an invite when that happens!!

  • Puppy

    GRR so damn close to christmas when they have the no dl limit :(

  • LT

    Don’t give up people, OiNK in a new shape will most certainly appear soon enough. They may have shut down the tracker, but so far there are still tens of thousands of enthusiastic resourceful sharers who need to find a new place. This is just a minor set-back.

  • Jim
  • StubzMcKenzie

    Um so…if you guys were law enforcement and…you know…raided servers and like arresting people…think about this-

    Article says they confiscated/raided the servers a week ago. If you were all into arresting people, wouldn’t you keep the servers up (like the article says) to track such vital things as traffic, information and any number of other things?

    My guess is they had the servers in their possession and turned on for a week, monitoring all the traffic and letting people continue to do stuff…all the while taking down a list of names and recording data.

    Kinda wishing I wasn’t at work now and was at home wiping my hd…

  • idea guy

    someone needs to do this:

    1) Set up a torrent tracker exactly like oink was

    2) charge a monthly subscription fee based on GB downloaded

    3) allocate the revenue to the labels (or a copyright collection agency) pro-rata based on the amount each artist is downloaded…

  • Anonymous

    this ruined my life

  • Anonymous

    Too bad. But I am not surprised. Rumours about Oink being under close scrutiny by the cops and org’s like IFPI has been going on for quite a while now. And it’s only natural that they would go after the biggest torrent site available. I bet the Oink folks have taken this under consideration and planned accordingly. I wonder where their hotsite is. The media has reported the servers in Amsterdam where confiscated. I don’t know about the laws in the Netherlands – will they get away with that?

    As far as for individual users, I don’t think they have anything to fear. They got what they wanted when they closed down the site. That creates alot less badwill in common peoples eyes than when they file lawsuits against kids.

  • fred

    [quote comment="193074"]Oh no, a dude that was profiting (yes, that’s right) from pointing peeps to copyright infringing works gets busted.

    Good, I’m glad because whilst I think the movie/music studios make stupid amounts of money from us and ought to be ashamed of themselves you can’t correct that “wrong” by doing another.

    So sad that people have lost the ability to tell right from wrong.

    And it shows how “loyal” the “community” is when the first things they ask is if anyone knows of an “alternative”.[/quote]

    Whats your sources on him actually profiting from this? IFPIs press release?

    I want facts, not bitching, and especially none of those bullshit lies coming from the authorities that usually surround busts like this.

    As far as we know, he was barely making even each month paying for the hosting.

    Blah blah.

    Im sad. :(

  • Anonymous

    Is this suppose to stop piracy?

  • Anonymous

    Absolutely gutted by the news! The hard work and dedication that was put into the site was a testiment to just how good Oink was. A very sad day, however beasts like this just dont die!

    This news wont have come as a suprise to anyone, especially the admins. It will only be a matter of time (probably days) before all those trackers are back online under another guise / server location.

    I think it was time they rebranded anyway. Pink was so last season! ;-)

  • h33t

    OiNK.cd was more of a warez operation than a filesharing site where friends swap files for fun. they hosted content on seed servers, the staff were active to obtain and release 0-day content, and membership was by selective entry invitation only. it all points to criminal conspiracy to supply copyright material

    OiNK.cd will be missed by me and all the filesharing music lovers who appreciated the depth, breadth, and quality of the content. i feel for Alan and his Dad and his Boss and his m8s who are all today sitting in the crapolla. is gonna be a long time ’til the nitemare is over for them

    i doubt very much if OiNK.cd kept any logs and a donation does not link you to a criminal conspiracy. the police will find everything they need on the seed servers, the rest they will have already gathered from infiltration of the site. the OiNK.cd membership can relax, go find another quality site. but this time guys, choose to build a filesharing site and not a warez site

    h33t.com says if you enjoy the content then support the authors and buy it

  • anon

    remember donating money to a website is not a crime… yet… so don’t be worried that you have donated.

  • Damn

    This is what u see when visiting the site right now.
    ———
    This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
    Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
    suspected illegal music distribution.

    A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site’s
    users

  • Onan

    This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
    Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
    suspected illegal music distribution.

    A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site’s
    users

    Time to clean up folks !!

  • Dazza

    shame, used to be a member, it was a nice site. a bit pink, but nice.
    my membership lapsed unfortunately.

    R.I.P.

  • ColdFission

    Let’s see: eMule network critical, Demonoid gives no Pass to Canada, Isohunt no pass to the US, TV links is gone, some jack ass former employee of TorrentSpy backstabs for money, and now Oink is gone.

    Anyone can add to this list. ^^^^

    Personally, I really think that the Torrent community and the P2P community as well should keep a larger eye on things. I also feel that these anti-p2p and anti-piracy groups are starting to gain some momentum. If crap like this keep going for the nest year or so, I think that the entire sharing community should be concerned.

    *prepared to get flamed by IQ-less assholes*

  • lapaterna

    Good luck to everyone in the oink stuff. I’ll miss you.

  • JJ

    [quote comment="193197"]someone needs to do this:

    1) Set up a torrent tracker exactly like oink was

    2) charge a monthly subscription fee based on GB downloaded

    3) allocate the revenue to the labels (or a copyright collection agency) pro-rata based on the amount each artist is downloaded…[/quote]

    A great idea and something that been something that I’ve been thinking about for a while. My variation on that was allowing users to DL whatever they want but with every gb downloaded to buy one album. That way the right people would get the money. Hell maybe even cut out the suit wearing, ponytailed, diamond earring wearing jerkoffs from getting a cut. There’s a real chance for someone to be an entrepreneur and hero here and prevent the artists from getting shafted.

  • Anonymous

    Is an HD wipe really necessary? Shouldn’t we wait until (and if) they start going after individuals?

  • oink user

    [quote comment="193033"][quote comment="193028"]The moderators where arrogant. You visit the IRC for help you get kicked. The site op’s often asked for donations, and make a profit from file sharing of music.

    To me, it servers him right. He was doing something illegal, even worse making money out of P2P.[/quote]

    Hardly – did you have any idea what kind of servers they were running? These things cost a bomb and the site ran like a dream because of it.

    The style of moderation made the site what it is, and I’d hardly call it arrogant. Maybe you’d like to try doing something on a similar scale to see how you coped. :/[/quote]
    Thats funny ive had account on there for over two years & never donated a single penny or dime so how is that making money out of file sharing
    ————————–
    you r a twat for thinking that you had to pay for this service all torrent sites r free aslong as you keep a good ratio ((fucking knob heads who think this))

  • bob

    they reckon he was loaded? he lived in _middlesborough_

    as for oink? i’ll miss it more than you’ll ever know. x

  • bob

    hah post 192! get it? i win a prize

  • fart_bubble

    I’m gay.

  • dmp

    check the metro article:

    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=72515&in_page_id=34

    how many inaccuracies can YOU spot? i’ve got 6.

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  • Anonymous

    FUCK

  • eRJee

    That will teach them. Banning me ha!

    No I was banned, but not with a specific reason. It costed me too much trouble to get in so I let it.

    Alan, I wish you the best. It was the best music-torrent-site

  • ogrefart

    is wiping hard drives really necessary at this point?

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know what, if any, logs were kept by OiNK?

  • dmp

    #199

    well there’s all the account information on there, showing what you’ve uploaded and downloaded. for someone like me who upped a lot of CDs i’m a bit scared to be honest.

  • Not Nobody

    This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI,
    Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into
    suspected illegal music distribution.

    A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site’s
    users

    http://oink.cd/

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193240"]#199

    well there’s all the account information on there, showing what you’ve uploaded and downloaded. for someone like me who upped a lot of CDs i’m a bit scared to be honest.[/quote]
    You’re supposed to be. But don’t be.

    A few years ago I emailed the RIAA a full set of Pedro’s Trackers databases – and they didn’t do shit. I think perhaps I compromised any investigation they might of done.

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  • kan1

    sad news for the whole p2p community

    good luck admins

  • Anonymous

    Oh man. We’ve learned our lesson! We’ll never fileshare again.

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  • guy

    yo flacinhell

    who are you? you seem to know an awful lot about oink…

    ripoink

  • PLY

    Oink is not dead; we shall overcome!

  • chris

    i wonder how many ppl in the .uk now get gangbanged by local authorities.
    gordon brown style! will uk citizens be sent to guantanamo….

    anyways: who uses services that are run by ppl in countries that 100% cooperate with evil MAFIA?

  • Anonymous

    OiNK was notorious for strictly enforcing ratio requirements, not to mention they log all of your Snatches. They also had a public Log of every .torrent file uploaded and deleted from the database.

    To be honest, wiping your HD wouldn’t do much, they have all the proof they need to prosecute you. But that is if they want to spend the time on you. If you rarely used OiNK, and never touched pre-release albums/extremely popular content, I would say you are pretty safe.

    The donations were just that, donations. I hate how they surround the word with quotation marks in all of the news articles. There were very few perks to donating, and besides having a star next to your name, you got nothing a PU+ didn’t get. The donations helped the survival of the website, and the website WAS more than a BitTorrent tracker. It had a great forum with a great community, and this is definitely a huge loss.

  • Outie

    FlacInHell go kiss you arse

  • Anonymous

    Fuck The Police

  • Sandra

    I hope the admin will be okay.

  • Outie

    A total waste of police time

    RIP OINK

  • Sandy

    [quote comment="193232"]is wiping hard drives really necessary at this point?[/quote]

    Its not necesary at all dude.
    Encrypt it realtime with DC Pluspack and people calm down and dont panic around now. Ususally all log is dumped into ram and filesystems are encrypted also at sites like this.
    And i dont think the Admins will giveout the Root pass ..
    Demon… is still up although so much more public known , piratebay also ..
    If it took them 2 years, mabe the Interpolists just got an invite last week ;)
    And it wasnt a pay leech Site at all, thats a Lie to make it look more effective in public now.
    Who would care if they would track down a invite only site otherwise.
    And now the IFPI starts frightening all members of oink with nothing then Air to breathe as usual doing public statements trapping the users
    activities although having nothing.

    Meh ..

  • blie dvd745

    [quote comment="193215"]Let’s see: eMule network critical, Demonoid gives no Pass to Canada, Isohunt no pass to the US, TV links is gone, some jack ass former employee of TorrentSpy backstabs for money, and now Oink is gone.

    Anyone can add to this list. ^^^^

    Personally, I really think that the Torrent community and the P2P community as well should keep a larger eye on things. I also feel that these anti-p2p and anti-piracy groups are starting to gain some momentum. If crap like this keep going for the nest year or so, I think that the entire sharing community should be concerned.

    *prepared to get flamed by IQ-less assholes*[/quote]

    Man relax p2p wiil adapt yea so what if isohunt and torrentspy and dem. are gone. You don’t see new sites taking there place. As for emule it’s just fine ya some server got shutdown how does take bring up a new server and with kad doesn’t matter much at all

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193250"]yo flacinhell

    who are you? you seem to know an awful lot about oink…

    ripoink[/quote]
    I’m the one-man comedy team that used to continually rip the piss out of Pedro’s Nazi Tracker, hack them and make them look very silly.

    I managed to successfully see that they finally removed racist policies such as the banning of Hip-Hop music, and that some of the moderators actually became human beings.

    A recent win was getting their btmusic.org domain taken down – but despite my best efforts the site remains.

    Me & OiNK always had a good communication during my actions against Pedro’s. We had a mutual hatred of the place and especially the admin and his henchman.

    I got given around 100 invites once by OiNK to hand out to people via my blog, and I never ever mentioned OiNK on my blog as from day 1 it was clear this was FiH vs Pedros, not FiH vs Torrent Sites.

    I helped the early quality lossless scene at OiNK devlop, and I used to blatantly “steal” torrents from Pedro’s after they implemented their Nazi “don’t upload our torrents on over sites” rule.

    However – my name was (and no doubt still is) dirt mainly due to Pedro idiots continually causing issues on OiNK just because I was fucking with their site…. Thus I saw to it that my official presence at OiNK was banned ;)

    Still, Pedros survives as a buy-your-ratio site (something OiNK definitely wasn’t) and pays for the Vodka supply of Pedro, the idiot in Poland who runs it.

    Of course, we cannot forget Frieden… his German accomplice….. who had the ingenious idea of scanning all the money trails/home addresses related to the murkey events behind the scenes at Pedros…. I soon got hold of these and made them public ;)

  • Anon

    Damn, I’ve been a loyal user for years. Kept my ratio above 7 this whole time.

    Thanks for posting sites, but they are all locked down for signups. Torrent sites should all open registration for a couple days to help OiNK users.

  • bro bice (oink)

    To all my fellow oinkers out there, we need a place to unite and discuss the future of our community. Its up to us to keep this alive. After all, file sharing is about the people.

    Does anyone have a forum where oink users are already talking? if not we should find/make one to replace the oink forums and figure this out, i am so lost without oink.

  • Damn

    FlacInHell:

    How big is the risk of getting the police at my door?
    :/

    Do they bother at all?

  • Glitch

    This is indeed, terrible news. However there are tons of smaller, more private torrent sites (like one I help moderate at) and won’t be going away. I don’t download mainstream music so I doubt the RIAA will be knocking on my door because I stole MP3′s for some record that saw maybe 200 copies pressed worldwide.

    You can’t get rid of Usenet or all the direct download sites either.

    I’m betting that we will see legal action taken against users who uploaded albums before their public release date, and anyone who downloads large amounts of major label music.

    No doubt this story will truly unfold in the weeks to come.

  • nobody

    The end of an era. It was fun, sharing always is. I tried to upload out of print stuff that the idiot corporations refuse to reissue, and d/l the same, I hope they don’t bust down the door and take me away… although it would somehow be cool to go to jail or even be executed for sharing Grant Green’s “Visions” from 1971. What a way to go.

    The pig is dead, long live the pig!

  • drew

    I’m so sorry for you admins. you’re all heroes.

  • face

    [quote comment="193204"]OiNK.cd was more of a warez operation than a filesharing site where friends swap files for fun. they hosted content on seed servers, the staff were active to obtain and release 0-day content, and membership was by selective entry invitation only. it all points to criminal conspiracy to supply copyright material

    OiNK.cd will be missed by me and all the filesharing music lovers who appreciated the depth, breadth, and quality of the content. i feel for Alan and his Dad and his Boss and his m8s who are all today sitting in the crapolla. is gonna be a long time ’til the nitemare is over for them

    i doubt very much if OiNK.cd kept any logs and a donation does not link you to a criminal conspiracy. the police will find everything they need on the seed servers, the rest they will have already gathered from infiltration of the site. the OiNK.cd membership can relax, go find another quality site. but this time guys, choose to build a filesharing site and not a warez site

    h33t.com says if you enjoy the content then support the authors and buy it[/quote]

    are you kidding? they didn’t have seed servers, it was all user content

  • Anton

    I would have thought they would have nifty button to press when something like this happens…And it would just delete all the data on the servers permanently…

  • Anonymous

    @ 222

    He meant seedboxes, which some of the more BitTorrent involved users had set up.

  • dmp

    #222

    a lot of people hosted their content on seedboxes, this was well known on oink.

  • Regular OiNK user

    Fu*king ‘ell! It was one of the greatest site’s reg. music and app’s, and now a couple of twat-organisations ruined it all!! I hope they will burn in ‘ell for this! Well I guess it’s just to buy another external hd and copy everything and then wipe the old one. OiNK’s PP… R.I.P.

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193271"]FlacInHell:

    How big is the risk of getting the police at my door?
    :/

    Do they bother at all?[/quote]
    Unless you were a moderator or admin there I am pretty certain you’re safe.

    The 2 moderators I most respected were Dragonnn and Jiggaz, they were US based so unless the FBI/CIA gets in on it too they should be OK.

    Keep your media (MP3′s/FLACs etc) but perhaps delete your torrent files and OiNK bookmarks – then of course do a wipedisk to clear deleted areas of your hard drive.

    Seems they are making a bullshit money connection here (i.e. implying OiNK was for profit) so following the money it will only lead to Alan. They only need to get Alan – however I admit I won’t shed a tear if I find out TMT gets busted too.

    I always remember members pleading in IRC not to be banned, or to be reinstated…. some members offered to donate – admins always told them to f**k off as money doesn’t buy bandwidth – great rules at OiNK, shame the mainstream media is twisting it all – but hey, what’s new?

  • tesc0

    in a bit you thieving dickheads

  • guy

    [quote comment="193264"][quote comment="193250"]yo flacinhell

    who are you? you seem to know an awful lot about oink…

    ripoink[/quote]
    I’m the one-man comedy team that used to continually rip the piss out of Pedro’s Nazi Tracker, hack them and make them look very silly.

    I managed to successfully see that they finally removed racist policies such as the banning of Hip-Hop music, and that some of the moderators actually became human beings.

    A recent win was getting their btmusic.org domain taken down – but despite my best efforts the site remains.

    Me & OiNK always had a good communication during my actions against Pedro’s. We had a mutual hatred of the place and especially the admin and his henchman.

    I got given around 100 invites once by OiNK to hand out to people via my blog, and I never ever mentioned OiNK on my blog as from day 1 it was clear this was FiH vs Pedros, not FiH vs Torrent Sites.

    I helped the early quality lossless scene at OiNK devlop, and I used to blatantly “steal” torrents from Pedro’s after they implemented their Nazi “don’t upload our torrents on over sites” rule.

    However – my name was (and no doubt still is) dirt mainly due to Pedro idiots continually causing issues on OiNK just because I was fucking with their site…. Thus I saw to it that my official presence at OiNK was banned ;)

    Still, Pedros survives as a buy-your-ratio site (something OiNK definitely wasn’t) and pays for the Vodka supply of Pedro, the idiot in Poland who runs it.

    Of course, we cannot forget Frieden… his German accomplice….. who had the ingenious idea of scanning all the money trails/home addresses related to the murkey events behind the scenes at Pedros…. I soon got hold of these and made them public ;)[/quote]

    pardon the ignorance but im not exactly sure what the whole “pedro” fiasco is. is there a wiki page on this or can you explain further?

    thanks dude

    ripoink

  • g0mb3r7

    This is terrible )=

  • bob

    But I didn’t upload / download anything. Someone else must be using my wireless network!

  • Good Riddance

    OINK was evil. Because they were a small inbred community it was nigh unto impossible to seed a 1:1 ratio, in which case you would be banned if you didn’t. There would be like all seeders and NO leechers. Also you could get banned if you refused to have a cutsy utsy Avatar of some stuffed animal. Too many rules, not enough heart. Very selfish. So I say MOOO! because OINK is dead and no longer sounds right! Long live Moo.

  • lametech

    Oink admin get BANNED from their own tracker. Serves them right for banning so many others for stupid things. EG. if you even questioned their authoritar on anything you’d get banned, no reason given. They were worse than any other private tracker.

    This is karma. What goes around, comes around.

    A big f.u. to the admin and everyone who bent over for them. I hope he rots in jail. It’s his turn to bend over now.

  • anon

    this news is worse than 4chan

  • Anton

    Question, was the raid performed while he was sleeping or something? If he saw police cars and what not, or even a warning about it…Couldn’t he have put the whole server under “whipeout” mode and deleted everything in sight…Sure they would still have proof from the person that tip’d them off, but still I am pretty sure most of the user base would be a lot safer…

  • Cesspool Sally

    What happens if I get a legal letter and I write “Go fuck yourself you cocksuckers” and simply mail it back to them? And then they mail me another letter, and I do it again? And then they send me another one and then I go to them with a gun and let it loose on everyone and then do myself in? Wouldn’t that be hilarious? I think we should all do that. Get a gun and start going off on people who sue you. That will teach them not to sue people for downloads. It won’t be worth the risk going after crazy people just for a stupid music download.

    FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • apap

    if i was able to keep my ratio, almost everyone can. stop crying idiots

  • odin

    It’s a shame it went down.
    I went there for deleted and rare stuff. Always found it, had good speeds because people shared and kept their ratio up, unlike unmetered public trackers…
    As far as exclusivity, I found them when they were public, they didn’t start off as private.
    I didn’t use the site much, in fact just recently I found that my account was deleted as I hadn’t been there for a long time. And the admin was nice enough to give me an invite to rejoin.
    How’s that elistist or arrogant?
    I was there when it was public and heaps of people had a 20gb download/5kb upload. being invite only was just to keep out the people that never seeded and were kicked.

  • lametech

    [quote comment="193291"]OINK was evil. Because they were a small inbred community it was nigh unto impossible to seed a 1:1 ratio, in which case you would be banned if you didn’t. There would be like all seeders and NO leechers. Also you could get banned if you refused to have a cutsy utsy Avatar of some stuffed animal. Too many rules, not enough heart. Very selfish. So I say MOOO! because OINK is dead and no longer sounds right! Long live Moo.[/quote]

    Amen brother. Long live real p2p.

    A good site doesn’t need Nazi style admins to be good.

    GET THIS: Every Christmas they would allow free torrents. One year someone asked early for this and they cancelled the free torrents for that Christmas. Like WTF.

  • bro bice (oink)

    to flacinhell:

    Would you mind sharing a link to your blog? oink was my life and i am devastated right now..i need some hope

  • JohnnyBbad

    Notice that the enemy will have to lie, lie, lie to get this one to go through:

    “This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure. This was a worldwide network that got hold of music they did not own the rights to and posted it online.”

    Um, maybe I’ve misunderstood bitorrent, but um, they aren’t posted online, are they? They are just on peoples’ computers, and those computers are connected through an information pack (read “tracker file”)

    I would throttle the pessimism. In the long run these media brothels and their whores are obsolete, and doomed therefore.

  • DCI Gene Hunt

    you’re nicked!

  • guy

    [quote comment="193303"]Notice that the enemy will have to lie, lie, lie to get this one to go through:

    “This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure. This was a worldwide network that got hold of music they did not own the rights to and posted it online.”

    Um, maybe I’ve misunderstood bitorrent, but um, they aren’t posted online, are they? They are just on peoples’ computers, and those computers are connected through an information pack (read “tracker file”)

    I would throttle the pessimism. In the long run these media brothels and their whores are obsolete, and doomed therefore.[/quote]

    nicely said

  • Dude

    Fockin A…

    As long as it stays on music I should be good, most of my dls were crap like at&t voice programs and msoft shite, would kinda suck to get sued over a recording of every countries national anthem

  • Hugi

    What about this idea?

    http://aerugohissings.com/foroink/

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193302"]to flacinhell:

    Would you mind sharing a link to your blog? oink was my life and i am devastated right now..i need some hope[/quote]
    Well I closed it. Started to waste too much time on it and having all comments open (I wasn’t going to resort to Pedros tactics of closing debate) I used to get pissed off cleaning up 200 “FiH is a fag” spam messages each day.

    Also the Pedro’s members were kind of like the Proles in Orwell’s 1984… they knew they lived under such a shitty rule over there – but didn’t want to do anything or felt they couldn’t. Basically anything about morals, respect or the right thing to do was unimportant to them as long as they could get their tunez…..

    This is why file sharing keeps getting a hit, because nobody stands up for what is right – why isn’t there 200 or so OiNK users in the Northeast (UK) region standing outside the police station where Alan is shouting for his release?

    You know why?

    Cause nobody gives a fuck as long as they can get their tunes….

    The most some people ever put into P2P is some upload bandwidth and perhaps a nice upload package and some forum help….

  • samd102

    Well…I agree with plenty of what has been said here. It is a sad day and there is absolutely no other site that contains as much music at such good quality. It does make me quite angry actually. This is all about money (as is 90% of what goes on in the world) and OiNK was clearly not making much cash from this. Once again it is the corporate fucking wankers who are acting out of greed and an attempt to curb freedom. These TWATS want everyone to abide to their own anal rules and conform to their ‘society’. Which basically means the corporate fat cats using money and the law to maintain their superior position while the rest of us scrap about on minimum wage, eat shit food and buy chart albums for £12.99. Fuck this.

  • Anonymous

    A fucking terrible weekend.

    First 4chan goes down (back up!), then I wake up today to find OiNK gone?

    OiNK was the best music related website I’d ever been on. It was a better place to find out about music than any record shop. The userbase was friendly, and the quality was second to none.

    OiNK is dead, long live OiNK.

  • Josh

    FUCK i just trew up because im so mad.

  • guy

    does anyone want to open up an oink forum on a free hosting site or should i do it?

    we need some community without oink

  • I Dled the New Coheed From Oink

    Without torrents, I would not have purchased 9/10 albums that I have purchased in the last few months. A war is coming. I can feel it. Long Live The King of Trackers, OiNK.

  • Anonymous

    we should start with facebook and take it from there.

  • ex-mod

    [quote comment="193204"]OiNK.cd was more of a warez operation than a filesharing site where friends swap files for fun. they hosted content on seed servers, the staff were active to obtain and release 0-day content, and membership was by selective entry invitation only. it all points to criminal conspiracy to supply copyright material

    [/quote]

    Absolute bullshit!! The speeds might have seemed like they were hosted on seed servers, because in reality hundreds ( even thousands) of ordinary users were seeding away on their home adsl connections, and staff *never* actively obtained 0day content.

    Oinky has enough troubles without idiots like you spreading bullshit.
    He never made a dime from the site, it cost a shitload to run as well. Unlike some other private trackers we were never pay to leech/pay for gigs.

    Good luck Al.

    ex-mod

  • willy

    holy shit this is big :S, demonoid its down too :S this is fucking going down

  • paewojweiofns

    MUCHOS HIJUEPUTAS

  • gustav

    Now I feel old…

  • Sadman

    Oink is no more. Truly a sad day. Fuck the music-industry in their ivory-towers.

  • MooPig

    To the worriers, somebody posted this on Digg and it makes sense: “I doubt they authorities (cops/record industry) will go after all the Oink users, logistically that would be almost impossible (the RIAA is in the news when they send a couple dozen subpoenas out, can you imagine trying to issue 200,000?). If I had to guess, I’d say that they will either go after people who uploaded specific advance recordings, or a specific few of the top uploaders with terabytes uploaded.”

  • change

    [quote comment="193074"]Oh no, a dude that was profiting (yes, that’s right) from pointing peeps to copyright infringing works gets busted.

    Good, I’m glad because whilst I think the movie/music studios make stupid amounts of money from us and ought to be ashamed of themselves you can’t correct that “wrong” by doing another.

    So sad that people have lost the ability to tell right from wrong.

    And it shows how “loyal” the “community” is when the first things they ask is if anyone knows of an “alternative”.[/quote]

    Hey people, the ones who are doing wrong are the ones changing the law to hurt the most of the society, and benefiting the “mafia” of big corporations who don’t give a damn about the artists we love.

    This is not about if oink’s going down is sad or not, it is about realizing how those corporations want to control us, control the prices, and make us believe WE ARE CRIMINALS! WE who work day to day, and don’t have the money to buy expensive lawyers to fight back.

    We can fight back by giving pressure to our government telling them WE DON’T LIKE THOSE COPYRIGHT LAWS and we want to change the LAW created to benefit “Miss Disney and many other giant corporations.

  • Anon

    If I didn’t do any uploading and only downloaded stuff, should I be concerned? What if a lot of those downloads were pre-release albums?

  • guy

    as far as i know

    downloading copyright material is not illegal

    its uploading it that is, that is if you got caught.

    but in order to function with OINK AT ALL, you would have to upload at least a little

  • Anton

    Wow, you guys are being such assholes. The only reason OiNK had donations is to support all the heavy visitor rate at all time… There was like at least 20,000 people on the website 24/7, either torrenting/chat/forum, and all that adds up to heavy bandwidth usage if the site literally never has no one on.

    Also, realize that Demonoid and even Torrent Leech are accepting donations, you don’t seem to have a problem with that.

  • Anonymous

    A cute policeman is a must. Preferrably a stuffed one.

    If you need one, ask for the copyright department.

  • Anonymous

    i am still downloading off oink lol

    and I dont smell bacon either

  • noob

    time for encrypted networks, maybe freenet?

  • foroink

    from http://aerugohissings.com/foroink/

    The mass of quality content on that tracker was just amazing, and that was the main reason for why Oink was a target. However, all of that content is still available, and well seeded. What it is lacking at the moment, is a tracker.

  • dark

    $10 that The Pirate Bay will offer to host it free of charge for em.

  • Anonymous2

    Well, I think (I’m sure, actually), OiNK won’t die. It will rebirth in some way.

    The point is that IFPI are fucking morons and they should be exterminated.

  • Oink user

    I guess all i can really say is R.I.P. oink.

  • blues

    demoniod is not down u moron post number 254 get ur facts straight

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    all you crybabies .. you all were doing something illegal and well it was caught!!!!
    now most of you are crying over it ??? it doesnt matter what YOU think or how much YOU CRY .. it is still ILLEGAL …. so umm if all you cheap bastards can’t afford to go out and say buy your own music. then you shouldn’t CRY LIKE BABIES when your method of stealing it gets closed down. so maybe it’s time to get up off your fat asses go out and get a job and maybe you can afford to PAY for your music ..
    maybe i should say it in term you will understand .. WAAAHHHHH WAHHHHHH WAHHH WAH WAHHHHHHHHHH

  • Anonymous

    #277

    i can tell you where not a member on oink and if you where you must have got banned…fooker! DIE!

  • mdjw

    are users in the UK more likely to get busted then in the states?

  • pigkiller

    @272

    any other cops reading this?

  • think a little bit

    Don’t you get it #272…..??? IT is illegal because people like you get brainwashed by the corrupt industry, and don’t dare to think by themselves.

    Ask the artists when are really valued by the industry and for how long?

  • 0=2

    Why the hell do you people bother to torrent music anyways? it’s usually small enough in .mp3 or other lossless format that it’s not need, slsk is still the tightest music p2p out there and has been semi-abandoned since people got this ass backwards idea in their head that torrenting music was the way to go

  • odin

    it wasn’t just an elitist tracker that listed popular stuff, that’s why I’m sad.
    Through that site, which was public when I went there, I heard ella fitzgerald, mingus, davis, coltrane, monk, rollins, bach, borodine, handel, moondog, old 50s and 60s stuff, j pop and tom waits for the first time.
    Oink was where I learnt about music. Before I browsed there I’d never heard of anything I didn;t grow up with or heard on soundtracks or from my parents.
    No where else I know has that range and so many good seeders. Oink, if you joined early enough or had an invite, wasn’t just a tracker, but a whole music lesson and I owe a lot to them for giving me access to stuff I would have never heard of, let alone bought, otherwise in my little bubble called home.

  • oinkscum

    best news this year tosser elitest site…….bring back real sharing not that crapola

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193012"]while your sitting here complaining you out to be cleaning the evidence off your hdds.

    crybabies.[/quote]

    And you “out” to be re-learning the English.

    Dumbshit.

  • PLY

    #279, same here. =(

  • arboretum

    [quote]Is he still with Samantha?[/quote]

    iirc it ended a long while back

    [quote]And do you know who the big megacorp he was working for was?[/quote]

    Don’t know. Didn’t think tees.ac.uk fed that many MNCs but I guess you lives and learns!

  • Anonymous

    hahaha @ pigkiller and think a little bit ..

    for 1. i am by no means a cop …
    and thnk a little bit sounds like an old hippie … it’s the establishment man thats dragging you down …. fight the man …

    lets say you work your ass off to put out a product so yopu can earn yourself a living and when its all finished some assfuck comes in and starts handing it all away for free
    and you make nothing for it …i guess thats ok to you … where do you work i am coming to get your paycheck seeing as you think it’s ok to work for nothing

  • pigkiller

    @284

    yes. poor lars ulrich.

    he needs another boat.

  • fookhaterz

    278

    STFU AND DIE…you must have got kiked ro banned ro nver invired cause you SUCK!

  • Taylor Hewitt

    I fucking loved OINK. This is the end of the world to me… :’(

  • dingleberry

    REVOLT! REVOLT LITTLE PIGGIES! THE TIME HAS COME FOR BATTLE!!!!!!

  • FlacInHell

    Unsubstantiated rumour:

    Pedro from Pedro’s Tracker has been paid off. Site was down earlier today for “system maintenance”. Source tells me this was because he has handed over the server to the RIAA under their Polish equivalent to catch the top uploaders and also stop himself doing time picking up soap.

    Sort of a similar thing to what happened with LokiTorrent a few years back.

    Timing of server maintenance along with this OiNK raid seems very puzzling, and Pedro is one of those pay-for-ratio sites that will attract attention.

    Also note that all members now (according to official rules) have to supply an active working email address at all times.

    Perhaps this is timed to catch out those who drift over from OiNK – i.e. grab their IP/email details from OiNK webserver… look at live data on Pedro’s server which they now own to find a correlation – and catch the top uploaders in the act?

    Person gets in serious trouble with history of sharing across multiple sites, and also being busted whilst your torrent client is running has practically no defence.

  • Hektic

    I’m sad, what a thing to wake up to this morning.

  • ACAB

    Typical FiH..
    turning this story into something about himself & his pathetic feud with Pedro’s.
    You were banned from Oink for being an asshole..just about the time you supposedly hacked Pedros database & gave all the email address’s to the Polish equivalent of the RIAA.

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  • Hektic

    [quote comment="193030"][quote comment="193026"][quote comment="193026"]you are an idiot…[/quote]it’s hardly a dirty little wank is it. it’s sharing and finding new music. of course [i]it is[/i] a positive phenomenon, i mean.[/quote]
    On Dalnet

  • Anonymous

    Putting a phone number on the oink.cd entry on dnsstuff prolly didnt help

  • Lamelaw

    If you downloaded then uploaded the same material, or uploaded material that you had previously downloaded and you did not have the original material then the copyright act cannot touch you.

    Under the act you had to be given the copyright notice before you are bound by it. No one has ever been prosecuted in the UK for downloading. The only hope they have is that you have bought a CD, ripped it and uploaded it. The answer is to rip it, give it to a friend and get him to upload it, then get his material and upload it.

    Then they have to prove that the tracker really was what it says it was. When you downloaded Pink, did you download a corpyrighted song or was it a singing pig? Where’s the proof?

    Basically don’t worry, you have more chance of being hit by a meteorite that being collared by the music nazi’s.

    If you want to know more have a search on CDfreaks for copyright information – there is lots there to make you breath a sigh of relief.

  • Cesspool Sally

    What are the consequences of when you get the legal letters and you just tell them to go pound sand? They can’t sue you if they CAN’T SERVE YOU. I know! We tried to sue somebody once and we were until to get them served. The court told us that there was nothing we could do without getting them legally served.

  • samd102

    272 Oct 23, 2007 at 16:51 by AnonymousQuote

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    all you crybabies .. you all were doing something illegal and well it was caught!!!!
    now most of you are crying over it ??? it doesnt matter what YOU think or how much YOU CRY .. it is still ILLEGAL …. so umm if all you cheap bastards can’t afford to go out and say buy your own music. then you shouldn’t CRY LIKE BABIES when your method of stealing it gets closed down. so maybe it’s time to get up off your fat asses go out and get a job and maybe you can afford to PAY for your music ..
    maybe i should say it in term you will understand .. WAAAHHHHH WAHHHHHH WAHHH WAH WAHHHHHHHHHH

    Shut up you corporate little monkey. I’m sure most people contributing here have got jobs and you are obviously missing the point by going on a rant like this. Instead of sitting back and looking at the real issues that are behind this you use it as a means to vent your silly misguided frustration on a community that is blatantly much cleverer than you are! I suggest you go back to sucking corporate dick and leave us sensible people to get on with it.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193004"]It’s aint sad for me at all. I loved it. Being such a popular website and not being able to get in. TorrentLeech’s next![/quote]

    sure is if fags like you post it around

  • nnugnafets

    could someone send me a libble invitation? 36?

  • Michael

    Up until this point I’ve been fairly civil in my piracy. I’ve downloaded a ton of albums but always bought what interested me.

    From this point on, it’s safe to say that I’m not going to buy anymore music. At all. I’m just going to download everything and if the RIAA, MPAA (yes, movies too) want to come after me, so be it.

    I’ll risk crossing the law for freedom.

    I’ll be damned if I’m going to let industry groups rule my life and what I do with it, especially on the internet where we should be assured complete freedom.

    Pirate Bay, you know what to do!

  • Musicians for OiNK!

    What I dont like most of all is that the ignorant media are all reporting falsely that OiNK specialized in prerelease torrents. This, to any of us members, is pure crap. The vast majority of the community downloaded older music or music hard to find in record stores due to its rarity. And BBC, do the math. If OiNK posted up according to you 60 albums before release and has over 200k torrents, how does that make a majority?

    kthxbye.

  • Nostalgia

    http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

    Type in Oink.me.uk and you can visit the old Oink pages…

    It’s like walking through a museum

  • hmmm

    the only reason i used oink was because it as virtually impossible to find what i was looking for in the music stores, its all garbage these days.

  • lol fih

    lol, fih is such a retard. i can’t believe he’s still continuing this stupid fight after so long. really needs to find another hobby

  • Anonymous

    To all the idiots clamoring that Oink deserved it for not getting any invites – I laugh at you pathetic morons. Getting into Oink wasn’t as hard as it seemed – all you needed to do was show proof of a good ratio from other sites. I’m guessing you couldn’t do that because you were all fucking leechers anyways – we don’t need assholes like you in our community.

    Hope Oink makes a comeback.

  • mandu76

    talk about a corporate koksucker!that boy needs to get off his knees and quit blowing his CEO!
    as usual,the cops are simply puppets!
    the music industry will never get it!
    same with the movie industry!
    if i went to the theatre and watched and paid for all the sh*t movies they release…i would be p&ssed to high hell!
    of all the movies i have dl’ed,i have only seen 2 that i would pay to go see in the theatre!and i did!
    these sites will last forever
    1 goes down and another 2 pop up to take its place
    long live torrent sites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • hm

    Go to hell, OINK! they banned me for no good reason!

  • ?

    Everything I downloaded I already owned, I just had it on vinyl and never purchased it new. I also got rare and OOP stuff that even if I could buy the record companies still wouldn’t make a profit from. Nice going.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193410"]When you downloaded Pink, did you download a corpyrighted song or was it a singing pig?[/quote]

    But I wanted the singing pig. :(

  • bootplasmacat

    I’ll miss the underground industrial/electro/noise stuff in FLAC.

    Who gives a damn about mainstream prerelease torrents, there’s a million other places to get those.

  • Scott

    This is a pyrrhic victory for the record industry; they’ll only be more hated. If their sales have faltered, it’s not because people are downloading. It’s because people hate them.

  • sun steam

    perhaps this cheers a lil bit up… read the piratebay’s answers 2 the corporations ;)

    http://thepiratebay.org/legal

  • Damn

    Won’t the data stored on the servers in amsterdam empty their datacache if the power is unplugged?

  • psy!

    psychedelic communtiy, where are you. direct me to your new location

  • Onan

    Why not send some flames to:

    Internet Anti-Piracy Unit
    Jeremy Banks- Vice-President, Internet Anti-Piracy

    IFPI Secretariat
    10 Piccadilly
    London
    W1J 0DD
    United Kingdom

    Tel: +44 (0)20 7878 7900
    Fax: +44 (0)20 7878 7950
    E-mail: info@ifpi.org

  • anon

    Well they can take down 1 website, but 2 more will appear

    Hopefully this will make the scene stronger

  • TheRageAK

    I guess we can forget about free leech this x-mas……….and with that said I will now kill myself.

  • Anonymous

    “The problem here seems to be that the material is unreleased? If that is
    the case, you can easily fix the problem by releasing it. We’ll be more
    than glad to help you distribute it – free of charge! – to our users.”

    hahaha classic

  • Dave Jones

    what are the chances of the BPI etc coming after people with poor ratios such as 0.4 etc or people who have only downloaded about 4gb of data, most of which has been small underground dance releases ? will the fact he donated £2 or something be an issue ?

    sadly i never got onto oink but my mate is thinking of wiping his hard drive because hes paranoid about the message from the BPI on the oink site.

    should he be ?

  • Superman

    and another bites the dust…

    great loss hope your ok alan :(

  • rainman2006

    oink was a phenomenon,there will never be another like it,opened my eyes up to so much new music.fuck all the haters and fuck the pigs,we pay a fortune in taxes in britain for law enforcment and this is the way they spend the money,a truly sad day

  • nuker

    >> GOD DAMMIT WHAT THE FUCK!!!
    >> they police are such dumb
    >> shits and don’t realise why
    >> we have websites like these,
    >> do they! All my hardwork to
    >> keep my ratio good, fucking
    >> wasted. Twats

    lol..
    no honestly..
    roflmao..

    ”they” police does exactly
    realize why you have such
    websites.. (to steal stuff)
    thats why they did some hard
    work too.. to get a good ratio
    in arresting ppl :D

  • Onan

    [quote comment="193456"]Why not send some flames to:

    Internet Anti-Piracy Unit
    Jeremy Banks- Vice-President, Internet Anti-Piracy

    IFPI Secretariat
    10 Piccadilly
    London
    W1J 0DD
    United Kingdom

    Tel: +44 (0)20 7878 7900
    Fax: +44 (0)20 7878 7950
    E-mail: info@ifpi.org[/quote]

    or to

    BPI

    Riverside Building
    County Hall
    Westminster Bridge Road

    London SE1 7JA

    T: +44 (0)20 7803 1300
    F: +44 (0)20 7803 1310
    E: general@bpi.co.uk / antipiracy@bpi.co.uk

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  • Giorgi

    am glad I live in country that does not cares about any copyright rule.

    even ISPs have warez sites here :D

  • Alan UK

    Channel 4 news here in the UK just said:

    “…members who paid to download and upload, blah blah…”

    How about bombarding TV news reporters with some FACTS?

  • Much Ado About Nothing

    OINK was not true P2P. True P2P is people sharing together without fear, from the heart. The site was patroled by Natiz who enforced unrealistic 1 to 1 ratios at the point of a banning gun. In fact, it was so uptight you could get banned for the slightest of things. I download everything I want off of Demonoid. Even in Demonoid if you make an off colored comment you will get a warning ban. People should be able to say what they want the way e can here. Half of these comments made here would’ve gotten people banned from these gated inbred societys. If OINK is dead its about time the pig went to the slaughter house. Mooooo! Because OINK just doesn’t sound right….

  • This isn’t Kansas anymore…

    Bang bang the wicked Witch is dead…! Whats for dinner….?
    Ham of course! Yum!

  • Jv

    much ado about nothing – you, sir, are an idiot. 1:1 ratio? you sound like the journalists reporting this story – misinformed.

  • Joey’s Meg

    What happens when you ignore the legal letters? What’s the MOST that could happen if they can never find you to serve you in court?

  • Anonymous

    @328

    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. OiNK did not enforce 1:1 ratios, nor did they enforce the ratio requirements at ban point. Once you fell below the requirement, you were given a 2 week warning period to get your ratio up to par before you were banned.

    I don’t see how a system could be anymore fair than that.

  • Me

    [quote comment="193563"]@328

    you were given a 2 week warning period to get your ratio up to par before you were banned.

    I don’t see how a system could be anymore fair than that.[/quote]

    The point is they threatned people with banning B/C of their ratio. You don’t see how a system could be more fair..? try using that EMPTY space between your ears…not everyone HAS a T1 line with blazing speed.

  • ogrefart

    I didn’t have a blazing line either and I managed to maintain a 1.4 ratio at its highest and I never ever got a warning. sure my ratio slipped to .8 or so sometimes but then I showed SELF RESTRAINT and let some of the torrents I downloaded upload some more so I could download.

    it’s a good system and the complainers are just lazy selfish people

  • tsolless

    Ratio was incredibly easy to upkeep in
    Oink. No it was not 1 to 1. After you have downloaded 5 gigs of music what did you need?

    A ration of 0.15. Two weeks time after you have downloaded 5 gigs. It’s not hard.

  • SdB

    Oh grow up people. The dude made hundreds of thousands and got arrogant – he blew it for himself and others by leaking new shit before the makers/artists could make some money off of it. Serves him right.
    The money he made was from people wanting to download so they ‘donated’ – I feel no sorrow for him at all.

  • Anonymous Artist

    Hey guys, I just heard about this and I was devastated and felt the need to speak my mind, so here goes.

    I’m a struggling musician, I have been for over 6 years. I became a member on OiNK not too long ago. If it wasn’t for OiNK, I would have never been acknowledged. My music was appreciated by everyone on the site, and I even got label offers (even though most didn’t go through). Just the exposure alone was rewarding. It helped me to where I am now, about to get signed to a major label.

    I just want to say thank you to OiNK, their Admin team, the users, the fans I’ve gained from the site, and I hope everything works out for the best.

    -J

  • Anonymous

    very sad,

    oink was amazing, super fast, great quality and great variety.

    too bad.
    I’ll miss them dearly.

    fuck the police and RIAA and so many others.

    as for users that did not upload stuff by themselves. I would not worried. We all be ok

  • scr

    Ok, so mods/admins/alans have serious problems on their hands. But do people like the top 10 downloaders or uploaders have to worry?

    If someone could post exactly what to preventative measures to take now to avoid problems as a top-10 member in the USA, please post.

    the only personal non-dwnld info that oink had was email addresses, right? Did it log IP addresses (in the Snatch history, for example)?

    If you’re reading this, hanswurst and flacinhell, i’ll miss you!

  • Anonymous

    for the past two weeks ive been putting off a proposal essay because i couldnt find a topic that i could get behind. now i have one. i would rather oink be back but i guess not. ill miss you.

    RIP

    OiNK

  • tsolless

    I also will never be buying any album that is represented by a label. Ever.

  • Jeremy

    RIP OiNK. May your legacy one day continue.

  • Doody

    They need to hear the poop hitting the toilet water already. New music models pls

  • mza

    Hooray for massive record companies that perceive music as a commodity.

  • T

    Al, keep your head up.

  • Anonymous

    #336, you’re a fucking idiot who clearly doesn’t know shit about the site. He didn’t make any cash, and the donations were voluntary and nescessary to run the servers. They broke even and some months the guys who ran it actually used their own money.

  • Demeanor

    That’s one less to chose from. Sucketh.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193639"]They need to hear the poop hitting the toilet water already. New music models pls[/quote]

    amen.

  • rrrrrs

    OH SHIT NO XMAS LEECHING!

    (#319: I totally forgot about that; I’m going with you)

  • mark

    trehrrre

  • lb436

    oink was the best. i feel sorry for anyone who never got to experience it.

  • Anonymous

    Your invite only bullshit is ironically going to dig your own grave. Be proud OiNK users, because they’re going to be looking for you ;)

  • david

    yay the oink ratio natzi’s are dead! ass holes got what they deserved kick me from ur irc channel from an invite eh? well look what happend to you now u piece of shit.

  • Anonymous

    DAMMIT!!!!

  • david

    let this be a lesson to all the private invites, dont think ur safe from the rest of the world. if public trackes and such go down, ur asses are going with them. i love bitorrent i love sharing but i hated oink with a passion. a bunch of stuck up pig loving dick wads was all they were.

  • Fredro

    Don’t wipe your drives!!! This is totally unnecessary. Make the bastards prove in court that you ripped that Britney Spears album. There is a reason that the RIAA goes after college kids. They know that mommy and daddy will settle rather than put up a fight!! The RIAA doesn’t want to go to court if they don’t have to. Long live the pig!!

  • Mard

    [quote comment="193717"]let this be a lesson to all the private invites, dont think ur safe from the rest of the world. if public trackes and such go down, ur asses are going with them. i love bitorrent i love sharing but i hated oink with a passion. a bunch of stuck up pig loving dick wads was all they were.[/quote]

    Wow, someones is jealous they didn’t get an invite. You are making yourself look ignorant

  • n0xie

    [quote comment="193264"][quote comment="193250"]yo flacinhell

    who are you? you seem to know an awful lot about oink…

    ripoink[/quote]
    I’m the one-man comedy team that used to continually rip the piss out of Pedro’s Nazi Tracker, hack them and make them look very silly.

    I managed to successfully see that they finally removed racist policies such as the banning of Hip-Hop music, and that some of the moderators actually became human beings.

    A recent win was getting their btmusic.org domain taken down – but despite my best efforts the site remains.

    Me & OiNK always had a good communication during my actions against Pedro’s. We had a mutual hatred of the place and especially the admin and his henchman.

    I got given around 100 invites once by OiNK to hand out to people via my blog, and I never ever mentioned OiNK on my blog as from day 1 it was clear this was FiH vs Pedros, not FiH vs Torrent Sites.

    I helped the early quality lossless scene at OiNK devlop, and I used to blatantly “steal” torrents from Pedro’s after they implemented their Nazi “don’t upload our torrents on over sites” rule.

    However – my name was (and no doubt still is) dirt mainly due to Pedro idiots continually causing issues on OiNK just because I was fucking with their site…. Thus I saw to it that my official presence at OiNK was banned ;)

    Still, Pedros survives as a buy-your-ratio site (something OiNK definitely wasn’t) and pays for the Vodka supply of Pedro, the idiot in Poland who runs it.

    Of course, we cannot forget Frieden… his German accomplice….. who had the ingenious idea of scanning all the money trails/home addresses related to the murkey events behind the scenes at Pedros…. I soon got hold of these and made them public ;)[/quote]
    I fuckin’ lol’ed. Delusion of grandeur lately? Don’t listen to whoever the hell this guy is. Obviously he’s clueless.

  • dd

    [quote comment="193682"]OH SHIT NO XMAS LEECHING!

    (#319: I totally forgot about that; I’m going with you)[/quote]

    yeah where the hell am i gonna get my xmas albums ?!

  • notsayin

    Dude…WOW…LOL
    the last post I read at OiNK was about you, saying something like
    “this flacinhell dude used to spam the forums with flac info, but he was banned due to no apparent reason.”
    lol and 10 hours later, I get the real story.
    You were officially banned,who did you stay on as?

  • pissed off at recording industry

    I just got an invite from my friend earlier today. I was quite surprised when I clicked the link and realized it was down. Screw the recording industry.

  • Anonymous

    I hope OPP will be back soon. In one form or another.

  • david

    i to hope oink comes back soon…. so ican use ratio master and leech the hell out of it and then piss all over the admins as they watch totally helpless.

  • Sloko

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • some

    i hope someone will take off

  • cdog

    OiNK is a subscription-based website that offers pre-release illegal music downloads for free. The site has over 180,000 members, and relies on user donations to make money.

  • Staf

    NO-NO-NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :((((

  • PhD

    It’s a sad day for the online music sharing scene.

    It’s highly unfortunate for a site like OiNK, with the invite-only system in place for good reason, to be taken down by the corporations who will never understand exactly why many people use it and sites like it.

    If it wasn’t for OiNK, I wouldn’t have heard nearly as many bands as I have, and therefore wouldn’t have ended up buying many of the albums and singles as I have.

    All the people whining over lack of invites, you either don’t know where to look, or you’re a poor seeder anyway. You wouldn’t be wanted on OiNK. Those who were banned from the site due to low ratios or a conflict, you can’t say that you didn’t have the opportunity to seed – It’s always possible.

    It’s not hard to deal with the mods, no-one is forcing you to donate to maintain your membership. If you go and rant at them, you face the consequences, and that’s just your own fault. Quit bitching and get over it.

    I sincerely hope that the admins of OiNK are somehow managing to get through this, you did a great service for us all.

  • bisky

    I think that only a very limited number of oink users would gain anything from erasing their HD’s.

    The ‘evil organisations’ would however gain from it, which is probably why they encourage you to do so in previous posts.

  • Prince

    Why even bother running a tracker in a country where government MPs take political dontains RIAA & MPAA?

    btw in the US both Obama and Hillary have taken RIAA money. You get what you pay for.

  • FR

    Sweating a bit myself, but honestly, the administrators of that site were snotty little trigger happy tossers… gwt it right up the lot of them

  • Concerned Individual

    OiNK…

    I just wish that I had known that this was going to happen a couple of weeks ago…

    So that I could have completely raped the site by downloading gigs and gigs w/o having to worry about my ratio. Fuck off, admins.

    Although, it was a great site, with pretty much all of the music I could ever want. And to anybody freaking out about the feds going after the users: Don’t worry about it TOO much. There were around 180,000 members in many different countries. Impossible to track all of us down (unless they had and extra few decades on their hands).

  • Cheese

    Oink and sites alike allow people to find bands they never would have heard otherwise. The bands break about even from selling their CD’s, but where they make their real money is through touring. Therefore, if you allow sites like Oink to allow users to find out about many knew bands, it will make them more inclined to go to the live shows of the band they just found out about. The result being more money going to the band’s that make the music and not to the label’s trying to get the money from someone else’s work.

  • nick nasty

    The community on oink was great, yes it was their way or the highway. Its how they kept people in line. Was a great site, doubt if another one comes along like oink. I suppose my +23.21 ratio was worth the time, see some of you all on other sites,

  • Jaquine Smith

    This is going to hurt independent artists.

    Oink was one of the only ways to quickly access thousands of discerning music fans. For independent musicians like myself Oink was a primary method of distribution. Just like myspace. Shutting down Oink is another victory for giant corporations while the arts suffer, yet again. It’s bad enough they won’t let us get paid for music , now they want to make it harder for us to give it out. We’re turning into America. Business before art.

  • some guy

    MUSIC IS A RIGHT

    NOT A PRIVILEGE

  • sboy — fight the good fight.

    $20 says oink didn’t keep donation logs. Once someone had their donor icon and the transaction complete there is no point in keeping it.

    I believe they are full of shit because they say.. “They expect donations to be in the hundreds of thousands”.. beyond that, they also say that it’s a pay site, if they had the records they would know that less than 10% donate.

  • MeatWheelz

    Sad, RIP Oink.. life will never be the same.

  • Anonymous

    Copyright protects the wealthy and encourages the production and consumption of useless crap. I would be happy to see the collapse of the ‘entertainment’ industry.

  • Tyler

    Why did they choose to go after a site like OiNK versus attacking the “Scene” that produces all of our precious pre-releases? I mean, that’d suck, but it just makes more sense.

  • Nick

    Oink got me to discover many new artist and in the end buying there albums. this is just bullshit

  • RoxySkull

    Stupid F-ers, just invited a friend too! >:-/

  • Anon

    OiNK will be mourned by thousands. It was a great site with an incredible and constantly growing selection of music, software, and e/audio books. Most everything was available lossless. In all my time as a user I never downloaded a torrent at any less than the maximum speed allotted me by my ISP.

    Heart goes out to the admins and staff for building the best torrent site on the web. Has anyone started a fund for the defense of the admin who was arrested?

  • depressed

    NO! Not my oink… And Leopard comes out in just three days…. :(

  • littled

    I still can’t believe it’s gone. Just last night I was getting Brand New’s “Fork and Knife” and this morning when I woke up, the original message was up referring people to Google News.
    I don’t see how so many people are getting their stories wrong saying that we all paid for our OiNK accounts when the only money given was DONATED. The creator in no way demanded money. There was just a small link on the front page asking for donations.

  • bawls

    shit just when i lost my hard drive..

  • RYANISLEGEND

    this is such an upset i have been a member of oink for a little over a few months now and this is still slowly sinking in. Oink was one the greatest sites out there to just show you the path musically and let you get ahold of whatever you wanted
    i hope this turns out the best for allen, and the people complaining and saying Oink deserved it is just bullshit you woudlnt be saying that if you had a chance to experience the site for its true purpose

  • Robbo UK

    http://www.pornandmore.net has a special area that is very similar to OiNK. Worth checking out.

    You need to register and wait 72 hours to be accepted but worth the wait.

  • blackavenger

    [quote comment="193140"][quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]
    I agree, good riddance![/quote]

    Cry baby……cry! It’s because of little crybabies like you that my beloved OiNk is no more. I was a member of OiNk back when you didn’t need an invite, almost three years ago. It took me fucking forever to build the outstanding ratio that I had. 240GB down/362GB up. Now if that’s not love for community, than I’d love for anyone to tell me what is. No, what made OiNk so special was that we were all family on there. Nothing but the highest quality music was offered, because the Mods were apt about making sure the rules were followed! God Damn it, I am sooooooo fucking pissed/saddened!
    R.I.P. Oink, you were loved.

  • sigloiv

    [quote comment="193531"]OINK was not true P2P. True P2P is people sharing together without fear, from the heart.

    The site was patroled by Natiz who enforced unrealistic 1 to 1 ratios at the point of a banning gun. In fact, it was so uptight you could get banned for the slightest of things. I download everything I want off of Demonoid. Even in Demonoid if you make an off colored comment you will get a warning ban. People should be able to say what they want the way e can here. Half of these comments made here would’ve gotten people banned from these gated inbred societys. If OINK is dead its about time the pig went to the slaughter house. Mooooo! Because OINK just doesn’t sound right….[/quote]

    Unfortunately, the majority of the people using the internet have no interest in true P2P or sharing from the heart. They want to take everything they can get their hands on, and not give back. This is why sites like OiNK are forced to employ the sharing ratios and the banhammer so that there’s still content to download.

  • RYANISLEGEND

    porn and more
    what the fuck is that

  • Captain Obvious

    I would assume it’s a site containing…porn, and more.

  • Vagina

    Har har, i have never been on this site. Yet, im worried for the owner of demonoid D:

  • blackavenger

    [quote comment="193367"]it wasn’t just an elitist tracker that listed popular stuff, that’s why I’m sad.
    Through that site, which was public when I went there, I heard ella fitzgerald, mingus, davis, coltrane, monk, rollins, bach, borodine, handel, moondog, old 50s and 60s stuff, j pop and tom waits for the first time.
    Oink was where I learnt about music. Before I browsed there I’d never heard of anything I didn;t grow up with or heard on soundtracks or from my parents.
    No where else I know has that range and so many good seeders. Oink, if you joined early enough or had an invite, wasn’t just a tracker, but a whole music lesson and I owe a lot to them for giving me access to stuff I would have never heard of, let alone bought, otherwise in my little bubble called home.[/quote]

    Me too, brother……me too.

    I learned sooo much about music thanks to OiNk….for that I will forever be indebted to it. God, I just can’t believe it’s over :(

  • something

    Something needs to be done. I still say the music industry wastes more money then they are loosing. It is stupid, I personally do not download music cause im not a big fan or music. but anyone i know that does wouldnt spend the money on new cd’s when there is only one song with a shit on the cd anyway.

  • Booyah

    Oink truly was the best modern day place to get all the latest stuff and all the rarest stuff, the only thing that has made me as sad is this is the closing of #rns :( ( also from a cop raid )

  • Booyah

    [CNN]

    “New York, NY – United States authorities have issued a stern warning to American users of Oink, the popular file sharing portal shut down by Dutch and British police this week: You are not off the hook.

    In a historic partnership with the RIAA, Federal authorities are now suggesting that they will seek to prosecute Oink users who have downloaded or shared in excess of 50 albums.

    “We will follow up. If we don’t, this will never stop. This BitTorrent stuff has to be stopped now. Oink users knew what they were doing was wrong. They even had a system in place to extend invitations to potential users, thus making the problem worse,” commented RIAA President Hilary Rosen on Tuesday.

    Details regarding the investigation of American users will reportedly surface in early November.”

  • J

    @391

    Bullshit. Hillary Rosen doesn’t even work for RIAA anymore, resigned in 2003.

  • Musician

    You people are pathetic. Stop pretending you’re sticking it to “the man”. You’re STEALING FROM MUSICIANS. PERIOD. It’s very rare for a band to make money touring. Touring is an expensive and a difficult way to live.
    Musicians make money from the sale of their recordings. That is down BECAUSE YOU’RE STEALING. Stop trying rationalize taking money out of the pockets of artists. If want to hear new music, go to the tons of sites or blogs that have new music, Myspace, etc.

  • Blarl

    393, musicians dont make SHIT from albums, unless they release the album themselves or in smaller labels. they record companies suing are the large ones who have the most to lose. musicians get most of their money FROM touring, playing at festivals and shit.

    who are you, Musician?

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194026"]You people are pathetic. Stop pretending you’re sticking it to “the man”. You’re STEALING FROM MUSICIANS. PERIOD. It’s very rare for a band to make money touring. Touring is an expensive and a difficult way to live.
    Musicians make money from the sale of their recordings. That is down BECAUSE YOU’RE STEALING. Stop trying rationalize taking money out of the pockets of artists. If want to hear new music, go to the tons of sites or blogs that have new music, Myspace, etc.[/quote]

    HAHAHAHAHAHA you don’t have a clue.

    Once you put your music in the digital domain, prepare to have it copied and copied. Try releasing some vinyl, sell some t shirts and do some killer live shows if you want to make money. Your band probably sucks anyway i’m sure, you whiney bitch. Welcome to the 21st century.

  • Musician

    Thanks for proving my point, and showing why they’re coming after you, you little no-nothing, punk-ass bitch.

    “HAHAHAHAHAHA you don’t have a clue.

    Once you put your music in the digital domain, prepare to have it copied and copied. Try releasing some vinyl, sell some t shirts and do some killer live shows if you want to make money. Your band probably sucks anyway i’m sure, you whiney bitch. Welcome to the 21st century.”

  • Musician

    Sorry, but only HUGE bands make money from touring, cuz they are able to charge those insane prices for tickets.

    And as far as big labels, bands DO make money from them, and it’s their own choice to sign with them.

    Stop trying to rationalize your stealing.

    You’re nothing but a thief and an enemy of art.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194038"]Sorry, but only HUGE bands make money from touring, cuz they are able to charge those insane prices for tickets.

    And as far as big labels, bands DO make money from them, and it’s their own choice to sign with them.

    Stop trying to rationalize your stealing.

    You’re nothing but a thief and an enemy of art.[/quote]

    You cannot be this stupid. It’s not possible.

    There are 3 possible causes for this: a) You are a troll; b) You’re an ignorant degenerate; c) You couldn’t get an Oink invite from your less idiotic friends.

    You’re on a torrent site – Your view does not belong here.

    There are two solutions for you leaving this place: Firstly, stop posting and enjoy your dunce cap; or, secondly, and preferably, go out and acquire a firearm, preferrably a shotgun. Tie a piece of twine around the trigger, loop the twine around something behind the gun, hold it at arms length in front of you, pull the trigger, and scatter your skull and grey matter fragments around the room.

    There are two ways you can proceed after this: Firstly, and most likely, you will die; secondly, you may end up in a vegetative state, putting a burden on your relatives, until they end up realizing they never loved you, and tell the hospital to pull the plug on the life support.

  • blackavenger

    Alan has already been released……as well, there are no indications of the authorities seeking to pursue criminal investigations of the users themselves………whew! Everyone needs to focus their thoughts on a quick recovery of the site.

  • bacon

    i don’t understand this at all.

    the record industry makes albums that ‘the people’ buy. it is the people who support(ed) this multibillion dollar industry. we gave that industry its power and we can taketh away. we gave our money to them because they provided us with a service that was worth paying for. that service is now antiquated and inefficient. it has fallen behind and it is not worth paying for. there are new services in place. it is a very simple process. it is idiotic to think that we wouldn’t adopt these new services and support those that provide it (thank you oink). the record industry has not acknowledged or adapted to the reality of this situation. and guess what. they expect us to suffer for their shortcoming.

    the record industry has argued about artistic integrity and copyright infringement (and whatever else). it’s bull. they have tried to tell us that it is the artists that are suffering. that may be true but they don’t care if the artists suffer. it is the ceo’s that are worrying. as they should. their multimillion dollar salary is being threatened. it is their own fault. they are the ones resisting change. you have to have been living under a rock to not see that the mp3 downloads wave was going to break right on top of cd sales. and that started back in 2002 when napster went down.
    http://www.wired.com/gadgets/portablemusic/news/2002/05/52540

    artists:
    i don’t care if you get burned by your label. you sold your soul the day you signed. you put your fate in their hands and should be willing to suffer the consequences. so what are you suppose to do?
    look at radiohead. they released there new album independently. they offer it online (http://www.inrainbows.com) for whatever price you want to pay for it. it is available to everyone with a computer. and everyone will get it. everyone. big risk equals big reward.
    if producing your album is too much for you then you probably don’t have what it takes to be successful. production is a part of the process and if you are unwilling to bring it on boards then be willing to do what the producers tell you to.

    oink was an innovative site. and just because these people were unwilling to change and adopt to this new method of distribution (which undoubtedly will be profitable some day) oink and its users suffer. corporations are so slow and sluggish that the only way for them to survive is to break the back of innovation.

    i never thought i would say anything like this but i actually think it’s true. the corporations run the world. if they don’t make a buck we’re all screwed.

    the user should never suffer. we made you famous. don’t slap the hand that feeds you.

  • Musician

    #398:

    Poor widdle baby :(

    Sorry to remind you of the fact that you’re a horrible person.

    A thief.

    And an enemy of artists everywhere.

    How does that feel, you spoiled little fuck?

  • Anonymous

    To all of you whiners complaining about elitism….give me a break. OiNK was the easiest tracker to get on if you had something to offer and asked politely (or if someone could vouch for you and gave you an invite). Chances are, if you couldn’t get in then you didn’t deserve to. You complain about OiNK’s strict policies, but they are exactly what made the site as great as it was. Unparalleled quality, selection, and dedication. I will miss it deeply.

  • PsychoHipE

    No.

    God, NO!

    NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!

  • some guy

    [quote comment="194081"]#398:

    Poor widdle baby :(

    Sorry to remind you of the fact that you’re a horrible person.

    A thief.

    And an enemy of artists everywhere.

    How does that feel, you spoiled little fuck?[/quote]

    Wow. You are a complete moron on so many different levels. It actually makes me sad to see people like you still living.

    “an enemy of artists everywhere”

    How? By listening to their music? Most people that I know go in this order.
    1. They hear about a band.
    2. They download and album or 2.
    3.a) They enjoy it and purchase the actual album and/or see them live, or
    3.b) They do not enjoy it and decide not to support it.

    You are so fucking stupid.

  • Soze

    [quote comment="194028"]393, musicians dont make SHIT from albums, unless they release the album themselves or in smaller labels. they record companies suing are the large ones who have the most to lose. musicians get most of their money FROM touring, playing at festivals and shit.

    who are you, Musician?[/quote]

    have you ever been to music business school? Read that the record labels and producers hold about 90% of the profits from all record sales. The rest go to lawyers, musicians make around 2-3% of their album sales. They make most their money from touring because its usually worked out in their contract (unless its a pop princess such as britney spears or kelly clarkson). Wake up, the artist are moving on, they hire independent management and promotion teams, They record in their own studios and they track down producers looking for a style not to be marketably viable. They small numbers of people still represented the way you talk about by the record labels are peanuts in comparison and are dwindling in numbers. I work in hollywood, in the industry. Plain and simple, the labels are dying because of their inability to adapt. Yes they will be around for a while because they hold the market so tightly in such areas as pop and Hip-Hop (Rap). But this is their last bastian to become relevant again. To push out any innovation that will remove them from the picture. It is a death knell, a last rite, an attempt to maintain their “youthfulness” and to be quite honest, they don’t have much time left.

    Take it from someone who went to school for specifically music business. The artist have been getting royally screwed by the labels for decades, and the internet is the only hope for the revival of good, relevant music.

    Peace

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194081"]#398:

    Poor widdle baby :(

    Sorry to remind you of the fact that you’re a horrible person.

    A thief.

    And an enemy of artists everywhere.

    How does that feel, you spoiled little fuck?[/quote]

    The fact that you don’t understand the economics of the recording industry makes me fairly sure that you’re a 14-year-old who picked up guitar one summer and elected to stand on a soap box at this time.

    Fuck off, kid.

    Buying an album gets the artists nothing – A cent or three, at most. Tours are where the money’s made. Ever think about why the t-shirts at a concert are $20? Pure fucking profit.

    I attend concerts. I buy music from artists on independent labels.

    Quit your fucking bitching, you idiot.

  • tmt

    oink will be back this weekend with the backups but it will be hosted and run by the tpb team. all ratios will be intact. alan is fine

  • Musician

    #498:

    Still rationalizing, huh? Wishing I was a 14 year old, that would make you feel better, wouldn’t it?

    I make my living making music and helping people make music. Your thievery has caused the most problems for musicians. You’re taking money out of their pocket. Nobody gets rich from touring except bands that have already made it.

    Quit pretending you have a clue about what goes on in our business.

    You’re nothing but a thief and an enemy of art.

    And deep down, you know it.

  • b

    [quote comment="194110"]oink will be back this weekend with the backups but it will be hosted and run by the tpb team. all ratios will be intact. alan is fine[/quote]
    Obviously fake, before anyone falls for this.

  • tmt

    testing if i can post as tmt

  • some guy

    [quote comment="194113"]#498:

    Still rationalizing, huh? Wishing I was a 14 year old, that would make you feel better, wouldn’t it?

    I make my living making music and helping people make music. Your thievery has caused the most problems for musicians. You’re taking money out of their pocket. Nobody gets rich from touring except bands that have already made it.

    Quit pretending you have a clue about what goes on in our business.

    You’re nothing but a thief and an enemy of art.

    And deep down, you know it.[/quote]

    I like how you continue to call downloaders “thieves and enemies of art,” instead of providing logical reason as to why you think downloading is wrong.

    You’re probably that moron from Metallica.

  • FlacInHell

    [quote comment="193742"]Dude…WOW…LOL
    the last post I read at OiNK was about you, saying something like
    “this flacinhell dude used to spam the forums with flac info, but he was banned due to no apparent reason.”
    lol and 10 hours later, I get the real story.
    You were officially banned,who did you stay on as?[/quote]
    You got some of the story – the real story takes up something like 500 blog posts :D

    I’m not saying who I was – cause I was climbing the ladder of respect by not being me and never questioning things or asking things or mentioning Pedro’s. Just there sharing and leeching what I wanted. Never know the site might come back, either way I have lots of pretend contacts who speak to a pretend person they think is real – when he isn’t cause I’m the real me ;)

    Also of course I have the same going down at Pedro’s – except my goal there is to get promoted to a staff level, and go report the whole place and all its working members and shares to the authorities and really fuck them up. You think OiNK being taken away on BBC News in a police van is bad – wait till you see what will inevitably happen to Pedro :D

  • Musician

    “You’re probably that moron from Metallica.”

    Charming. No, I’m not Lars, but once again you’ve shown how you have no respect for artists.

    The only person that has a right to decide if their art should be free, is that artist himself.

    You’re a thief. Period.

  • some guy

    412:
    “The only person that has a right to decide if their art should be free, is that artist himself.”

    You have me there.

    But the problem is, the musicians have no way to dictate that. They can either not sign to a label and distribute their albums in batches of 50 or so in podunk little towns, or sign and distribute their music on a national scale.

    They either have to conform or get screwed.

    Plus, most of the musicians that I listen to support downloading. They aren’t in it for the money. They genuinely enjoy making their music and want people to hear it. They do not support jacking up the price of CDs to $20 and forcing it down people’s throats. Music is a right. Just because you don’t have the money to listen to a certain album does not mean that you shouldn’t be able to. That’s the beauty of file sharing.

    (note: file “sharing”
    not file “stealing”
    If a friend lets you borrow an album and you rip it onto your computer, is that stealing? You didn’t buy it, so according to you, it must be.)

    Moron.

  • Musician

    You’ve lost the argument, and you know it.

    The musician is free to sign with whatever label he wants. He signs the paper freely that determines his royalty. Which is WAY more than “A cent or three” per record.

    Just because you call a sweet name like ‘sharing’ doesn’t mean it isn’t what it is: stealing.

    I suggest you stop stealing music. I guarantee you the war is on against music theft, and the artists are going to win it.

  • E

    Please help starving labels.

  • geogia

    Pirate has infringed not only the author but also the user’s rights. Just like the OiNK’s behavior, in my opinion, we should crack down on it seriously. I discussed it at millionairematch.com and most of the people agreed with me. What about your opinion?

  • blablablabla

    well this sure fucking sucks. Oink was the ultimate site. it most definitely rocked out loud……. why take away such a tremendously super awesome thing?

  • cdwont

    cdwill is in custody now, and i’m assuming the other mods are too.

    better wipe your hard drives while you still can.

  • Thief

    Property is theft.
    Die “Musician”.

  • Thief

    Don’t wipe your drives.
    Reseed content on a different tracker.

  • Musician

    Intellectual property. Read up on it sometime.

    You’re a douchebag, as well as a thief.

  • some guy

    “You’ve lost the argument, and you know it.”

    Hm. You say I’ve lost the argument, therefore I’ve lost the argument, even though you’ve STILL YET TO POST A VALID POINT OTHER THAN YOUR OPINION. Your logic is flawless.

    “The musician is free to sign with whatever label he wants. He signs the paper freely that determines his royalty. Which is WAY more than “A cent or three” per record.”

    Are you joking? As if getting signed to a label is as easy as that. Wow. Obviously you haven’t worked in music very long.

    “Just because you call a sweet name like ‘sharing’ doesn’t mean it isn’t what it is: stealing.”

    Call it whatever you want. You can’t stop sharing.

    “I suggest you stop stealing music. I guarantee you the war is on against music theft, and the artists are going to win it.”

    “artists are going to win it”

    “artists”

    Don’t you mean “labels”?

    And besides, I highly doubt that. By the way, post your opinion all you want. Your views don’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. People will continue to share music. Go ahead and try to stop us.

  • Anonymous

    “Friends sharing music for pleasure” should be made legal at some point. Artist should be worry if their album is not leak on the internet. This mean nobody cares about the artist or possibly they are crap artist. Look at 50 cents, still bling-bling although his cd is everywhere on the net. Like I said, “Friends sharing music for pleasure” should be made legal at some point. Distinguish between what kind of sharing is legal. Best for both party.

    Hmm.. I wonder why the creator of those sharing scripts was not the anti-piracy club main target. Why the user.. why… crap..

  • Mork and Mindy

    So the cops sealed the leak in an illegal operation. You’ll pay a plumber $90 an hour to fix your sink but you won’t pay a musician for their life’s work which as a bonus brings you emotional enlightenment. Good on everyone who has said “good while it lasted”, that’s the only honest response, everyone else acting hard done by can eat it hard.

  • musician with no one listening

    [quote comment="194139"]You’ve lost the argument, and you know it.

    The musician is free to sign with whatever label he wants. He signs the paper freely that determines his royalty. Which is WAY more than “A cent or three” per record.

    Just because you call a sweet name like ‘sharing’ doesn’t mean it isn’t what it is: stealing.

    I suggest you stop stealing music. I guarantee you the war is on against music theft, and the artists are going to win it.[/quote]

    wow you must have a real hard time trying to make it as an artist. when you are using it as profit. successful artists make money because what they produce is worth that money. maybe doing ‘art’ isn’t your thing. go learn a trade, make some money so you can survive in this world, do ‘art’ as a hobby and appreciate it for yourself instead of thinking that whatever ‘art’ you produce deserves to be paid for.

  • another musician

    [quote comment="194180"]Intellectual property. Read up on it sometime.

    You’re a douchebag, as well as a thief.[/quote]

    So bitter. Could it be that no one wants to download your intellectual property, even for free, “musician”?

    Come on- come clean with us peons. What wedding band do you play with to pay the bills? Do you see yourself getting greyer each time you are forced to play “Every Breathe You Take”? Is that the secret impulse behind your jihad here? I hate to tell you, but you sound like a televangelist shilling for the majors.

    BTW, does this mean that free leech this Xmas is definitely not going to happen at OPP? Can Alan clarify this for us? ;-)

  • Musician

    Look moron, stop trying to rationalize your stealing by guessing at my lifestyle. I make an excellent living, full-time, in music. Something you’ll never do.

    But feel free to keep digging yourself deeper, weasel.

  • anon

    [quote comment="194197"]Look moron, stop trying to rationalize your stealing by guessing at my lifestyle. I make an excellent living, full-time, in music. Something you’ll never do.

    But feel free to keep digging yourself deeper, weasel.[/quote]

    NO ONE LISTEN TO THIS GUY.

    HE IS A TROLL.

    THERE IS NO WAY ANY PERSON COULD EVER BE THIS INCREDIBLY DUMB.

  • Musician

    Except you can’t defend the fact you steal music. From musicians. Money right out of their pocket.

    You’re a thief and an enemy of art.

  • Mork and Mindy

    Just imagine someone illegally removed your ability to make profit from your line of work. They then hid this illegal act under the guise of “the community has a right to anything and everything for free”. Not really fair is it? Please stop using major label, already made it artists as examples of record label greed. This D/L style cheapening of art has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the artists that can’t afford to make their second album because everyone stole their first.

  • anon

    [quote comment="194200"]You’re a thief and an enemy of art.[/quote]

    Wow. Haven’t you used this insult 3 other times?

    You truly are an intellectual.

    I respect you.

  • Musician

    RIAA Juror: ‘We Wanted to Send a Message’

    It took the jury in Capitol Records v. Thomas only five minutes to conclude 30-year-old Jammie Thomas infringed recording industry copyrights on 24 music tracks, according to the first juror to speak out on the verdict.

    The remaining five hours of deliberation was spent debating the appropriate financial penalty.

    At least two jurors, one of them a funeral home owner, wanted to award the Recording Industry Association of America the maximum $150,000 for each of the 24 copyright violations

  • Oh hi

    The problem, mainly, is that the record companies have not adapted to the new model of internet-based music distribution. They continuously fight this technology when it is clearly here to stay; what the need to do is find a way to adapt. As long as one party is offering a product for free that another party is charging $15 for, people will always be around to choose the former. That’s just common sense. To fight that is to tilt at windmills.

    RIP OiNK.

  • Musician

    No, there just wasn’t any attempt to stop stealing until 2007. This is just the beginning for the zeros that steal music. The party’s over.

    http://www.attributor.com

  • blurg

    So where are the site’s other officials: Admins and mods? What do they have to say regarding the security of their users? Their attitude toward it would be a real watershed in the world of filesharing.

  • another musician

    [quote comment="194197"]Look moron, stop trying to rationalize your stealing by guessing at my lifestyle. I make an excellent living, full-time, in music. Something you’ll never do.

    But feel free to keep digging yourself deeper, weasel.[/quote]

    I’m sure I’ve heard –or heard of– your music, somewhere, then. Perhaps it was in the background, somewhere. I’ll try to listen more closely when I hear the new CD by “musician” ;-)

    If you are making such a good living, then why the hell do you care about a p2p site going down?

    BTW, I’m a tenured college professor with teaching awards to my credit. I play music for fun. I work for a living. If someone bootlegged the book I’m shopping around (hard to imagine- its an academic tome), I’d probably dip into my notes and write another. Wouldnt be happy but I wouldnt cry like a bitch, or that academia and all learning was crumbling to a halt.

    Apples and Oranges? Perhaps. But the corporate music industry has sold at topdollar a whole lot of nothing for decades now. I’ve worked in tech and in academia- if you are good, you will eventually be able to write your own ticket.

    Music IS work, mind you. ANY artistic endeavor is work, because the payoff –beyond your own satisfaction– is dependant on factors beyond your control. Deal.

    Like my students say, “Dont hate the player, hate the game” ;-) Try not to embarass yourself any further by buying into the myth that sharing music is killing music.

    “Intellectual property” is a term invented by media lawyers, incidentally.

  • ANNOYING SELF-RIGHTEOUS DOUCHE

    Art this. Art that. Art art art.

    I am an annoying moron with no musical knowledge. I say “art” a lot to make me sound intellectual. Respect my opinions, which are facts.

    Oh, someone made a valid point? I’ll just ignore it and post this message:

    You’re a thief and an enemy of art.

  • another musician

    [quote comment="194197"]Look moron, stop trying to rationalize your stealing by guessing at my lifestyle. I make an excellent living, full-time, in music. Something you’ll never do.

    But feel free to keep digging yourself deeper, weasel.[/quote]

    I’m sure I’ve heard –or heard of– your music, somewhere, then. Perhaps it was in the background, somewhere. I’ll try to listen more closely when I hear the new CD by “musician” ;-)

    If you are making such a good living, then why the hell do you care about a p2p site going down?

    BTW, I’m a tenured college professor with teaching awards to my credit. I play music for fun. I work for a living. If someone bootlegged the book I’m shopping around (hard to imagine- its an academic tome), I’d probably dip into my notes and write another. Wouldnt be happy but I wouldnt cry like a bitch, or that academia and all learning was crumbling to a halt.

    Apples and Oranges? Perhaps. But the corporate music industry has sold at topdollar a whole lot of nothing for decades now. I’ve worked in tech and in academia- if you are good, you will eventually be able to write your own ticket.

    Music IS work, mind you. ANY artistic endeavor is work, because the payoff –beyond your own satisfaction– is dependant on factors beyond your control. Like most gigs. Deal.

    Like my students say, “Dont hate the player, hate the game” ;-) Try not to embarass yourself any further by buying into the myth that sharing music is killing music.

    “Intellectual property” is a term invented by media lawyers, incidentally.

  • Leke

    Doesn’t interpol have any real criminals to catch?

  • Musician

    LOL. What valid points? You have none.

    You steal music. You’re a weasel, a liar, a scumbag, a loser.

  • ANNOYING SELF-RIGHTEOUS DOUCHE

    [quote comment="194223"]LOL. What valid points? You have none.

    You steal music. You’re a weasel, a liar, a scumbag, a loser.[/quote]

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    “LOL”

    I need not say more.

  • owner

    [quote comment="194215"]So where are the site’s other officials: Admins and mods? What do they have to say regarding the security of their users? Their attitude toward it would be a real watershed in the world of filesharing.[/quote]it is people like you who make me NOT want to buy music

  • Musician

    You need not say any more because you have nothing to say.

    You can’t defend yourself. You’re nothing but a sniveling, whiny, little loser douchebag that steals music.

  • ANNOYING SELF-RIGHTEOUS DOUCHE

    [quote comment="194230"]You need not say any more because you have nothing to say.

    You can’t defend yourself. You’re nothing but a sniveling, whiny, little loser douchebag that steals music.[/quote]

    You make me giggle.

  • owner

    the concept of copyright is so fucked up, everything is music, everything is art

    if i should have to pay for your music, then i should copyright the form of a circles and corners and take fees for every such object/space you own. i should take a huge fee on my copyright on the form of human beings as well.

    copyright is the right to copy, it is my right to copy, support life – do not restrain it!

  • Musician

    Musician here. Disregard that, I suck cocks.

    (a little meme)

  • dfdfd

    This one hits hard. It was a true community that was very dedicated to good music. Much of it was dedicated to music that would benefit from wide-spreading, not the big RIAA types. It wasn’t even hard to find rare 100 pressed copy type stuff that you couldn’t even buy if you wanted to.

    Fuck you IFPI, Fuck you BPI, Fuck you RIAA, all you do is hurt the average person for the satisfaction of a very select few. We want real music. Maybe if you didn’t feed us crap on the radio for years on end things wouldn’t be this way.

    And most of all, fuck you Jeremy Banks.

    My regards go out to the admins of Oink. Thank you for the wonderful community.

  • Musician

    Yeah, good luck with that.

    “the concept of copyright is so fucked up, everything is music, everything is art

    if i should have to pay for your music, then i should copyright the form of a circles and corners and take fees for every such object/space you own. i should take a huge fee on my copyright on the form of human beings as well.

    copyright is the right to copy, it is my right to copy, support life – do not restrain it!”

  • spitta

    Bye oink. I joined before it was invites only and put a lot of tears and effort into maintaining a good ratio. I can’t say it wasn’t annoying at times, but their strictness is what made it absolutely beyond compare of ANY other music site. Goddamn, I used it get into 90% of the bands I love today. Maybe I didn’t buy as many albums as I should have but I bought so many concert tickets and band merch of artists I would NEVER have heard of if not for oink. And that’s real money that actually reaches the artists.
    Fuck labels and their cops. They do NOTHING for real music.

  • Musician

    Yeah, just keep trying to con yourself into thinking you’re stealing from corporations and not musicians.

  • Nostalgia

    CNN]

    “New York, NY – United States authorities have issued a stern warning to American users of Oink, the popular file sharing portal shut down by Dutch and British police this week: You are not off the hook.” ETC

    Oh come on, this message is clearly fake. Search for it on the CNN site, and you won’t find it.

  • builder9

    Im in a band and I would be flattered if people downloaded my music whether they’re paying for it or not. If you’re famous, money is easy to come by. Musicians dont really deserve vast sums of cash anyway. If you buy a CD then its because you want the whole package. The fewer records sold means that your copy, should you own it, will be worth a lot more in the future. Thus, illegal downloads are beneficial.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194247"]Yeah, just keep trying to con yourself into thinking you’re stealing from corporations and not musicians.[/quote]

    you are stealing my attention, and i dont like what i see, what i see is a self-righteous spoiled litlle creep made of greed who is toxic, i hope you will purify/clean yourself, there is only one purifier: love

  • everybody owns everything

    [quote comment="194247"]Yeah, just keep trying to con yourself into thinking you’re stealing from corporations and not musicians.[/quote]

    you are stealing my attention, and i dont like what i see, what i see is a self-righteous spoiled litlle creep made of greed who is toxic, i hope you will purify/clean yourself, there is only one purifier: love

  • Charlie

    I think Musician’s lost his/her marbles. As poetic as it reads, there isn’t a lot of sense in your text.

    Secondly, I hope Alan was making a lot of money from the site. Atleast enough to make it worth going to jail for. Would he really be foolish enough to run a site for the crack alone? What a loser

  • Charlie

    [quote comment="194288"]I think Musician’s lost his/her marbles. As poetic as it reads, there isn’t a lot of sense in your text.

    Secondly, I hope Alan was making a lot of money from the site. Atleast enough to make it worth going to jail for. Would he really be foolish enough to run a site for the crack alone? What a loser[/quote]

    Sorry, not Musician. I meant the person responsible for posts; 455 and 456

  • blurg

    I cannot believe how badly secured this site was. How could they allow this to happen.

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  • OJ Simpson

    Oink was pretty nice. Lots of good stuff, music, warez-wise. Ratio was pretty easy to maintain.

  • ParaDoX
  • ParaDoX

    [quote comment="194333"]Try http://www.filemp3.com ..[/quote]

    http://www.filemp3.org I mean, sorry :S

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, if you werent invited, tough for you. This was a great site and its a sad thing to see it gone.

  • Anonymous

    ….so close to the annual free leech :(

  • Anonymous

    Are you really sad to see it gone? It was too well organised. It was begging to be shut down really. Only illegal stuff ws allowed on there. It didn’t even cater for legal stuff.

  • softmp3
  • [quote comment="192976"]Oink was always shifty I rekon.

    Stick with Demonoid and TPB and you’ll do just fine.

    Weren’t you telling us just 3 days ago to join oink?[/quote]

    Demonoid isn’t any “safer”, I received a cease and desist letter from my internet provider regarding something I got off that site…so be just as weary.

  • themagicke
  • brutos

    All I know is oinks gonna be back soon and we are gonna have a 1 month of freeleech :D

  • john

    Well, it wont have any effect on the p2p music scene, users will just go else where, there is plenty of other sites that offer music torrents, and as known before, sites taken down will just be replaced by other sites.

    if your looking for new sites here is a list of other music sites to check out.

    http://www.torrentking.org/?cat=Music

    but perhaps we can be lucky to see oink back online in another form at some time, until, use the other music sites, plenty of them and many new popping up here and there.

  • blurg

    [quote comment="194416"]Well, it wont have any effect on the p2p music scene, users will just go else where, there is plenty of other sites that offer music torrents, and as known before, sites taken down will just be replaced by other sites.

    if your looking for new sites here is a list of other music sites to check out.

    http://www.torrentking.org/?cat=Music

    but perhaps we can be lucky to see oink back online in another form at some time, until, use the other music sites, plenty of them and many new popping up here and there.[/quote]

    Which is what worries me; the authorities aren’t stupid. They know this is what will happen. So what’s the most effective thing they can do? Make a big example of these people. That’s more likley to stop people – if they can see the penalties!

  • random guy

    so what should we do for now.

  • john

    [quote comment="194423"]
    Which is what worries me; the authorities aren’t stupid. They know this is what will happen. So what’s the most effective thing they can do? Make a big example of these people. That’s more likley to stop people – if they can see the penalties![/quote]
    Havent they made examples of other tracers before ? and how much did that help, everytime 1 site is taken down, 100 new is starting up, there is more than 1000 torrent sites out there now, and growing each day.

  • Cutter3

    I don’t know why they don’t just get rid of the internet completely if they’re that bothered. The internet is only good for illegal donwloads anyway.

  • blurg

    In England? NOne that I can think of.

  • theone

    #care

    If people are against this maybe they should start waking up and see the world around them.

    If you ask me, I don’t care. Never liked that site anyway.

  • Erik NL

    Damn, bad news hope you’ll be back soon Admin!

    There are bigger issues were Interpol should worry about, bastards!

    Hope that new Oink’s will grow as mushrooms 8)

    Good Luck and hope you (and Oink) will be back soon!

    Erik

  • Garl

    I doubt much action will be taken against the users really. The IFPI like to use scare tactics a lot, they’re pretty harmless.

    R.I.P. OiNK.

  • oink mourner

    rip oink

  • B

    I have a feeling they’re really gonna stick it to this Admin.

    I’m talking like 20+ years.

  • Sad Pig

    This is a sad day for folks who worked really hard to… well… steal… Yeah, it sucks that it’s gone, but really, nothing great lasts forever. Something new will rise from the ashes, I’m sure. I just hope Alan had the money stashed where he can get at it for his own legal defense.

  • anonymous

    Damn!!!!!
    Upon hearing this I properly firewalled my system for the first time ever.

    I will miss oink.
    Torrents were always well seeded.

    I will be hurling abuse at the BPI and IFPI from a payphone at the next opertunity.

  • thinker

    This site had many rare CDs, many not available anymore. I can’t think of any other places to find them.

    The admin shouldn’t have let users to upload pre-releases. This was one of the bigger mistakes.

  • Anonymous

    RIP oink

    if music industries dont want us to take music illeagally then they should make it cheaper, im not paying 15 quid to buy a CD worth about, what? 20p?

  • Douchebag

    If the car companies don’t want me to steal their cars, they should make them cheaper, y’know?

    I decide what’s right and wrong, cuz I haven’t been busted yet.

  • berns

    Thi sucks. While I did hate the useless share ratio rules, and was worried that the early release stuff would eventually catch up to them, I was hoping that they wouldn’t go down, cause this was one of the few places that i could go if i needed something that I couldn’t find anywhere else, even in stores.

  • Merid

    [quote comment="193292"]Oink admin get BANNED from their own tracker. Serves them right for banning so many others for stupid things. EG. if you even questioned their authoritar on anything you’d get banned, no reason given. They were worse than any other private tracker.

    This is karma. What goes around, comes around.

    A big f.u. to the admin and everyone who bent over for them. I hope he rots in jail. It’s his turn to bend over now.[/quote]

    It is quite easy to see you were one of the whiny fucktards who could not understand how to seed a fucking torrent and got your ass kicked out.

    Chicken shit retard. How’s the seeding going now, fucktwat?

  • David

    it’s a sad day for pirates worldwide, but it serves you all right. and they *are* investigating frequent users, tracking known IP’s, etc

    so it’s only a matter of time before all hell breaks loose for anyone who used the site while the company was tracking users.

  • smartguy

    [quote comment="193091"]For one they cannot go after his paypal account cause its donations.

    and the reason why the pirate bay did not get fully shut down cause there copyright law is diffrent then in other countries, remember the raid, read about it before askin weired ?.. and its not ilegal to host .torrent files on a website its ilegal to host the acutal copywrite movies/mps/etc on the servers. most sites just index torrent files. which is fully legal to do.

    hence these sites still around[/quote]
    lmao… its illegal to point to illegal content with intentions of distributing it illegally, this is why google cant get shit for indexing sites. What people should do that host these sites should make it like youtube, youtube has a shield because users submit content and are held responsible for it.

  • Onan
  • oink lover

    [quote comment="193436"]To all the idiots clamoring that Oink deserved it for not getting any invites – I laugh at you pathetic morons. Getting into Oink wasn’t as hard as it seemed – all you needed to do was show proof of a good ratio from other sites. I’m guessing you couldn’t do that because you were all fucking leechers anyways – we don’t need assholes like you in our community.

    Hope Oink makes a comeback.[/quote]
    since when did you have to show proof to gain admitance? I recieved an invite and was piggin out from the get go. Did not have to show any qualifications, just had to keep up a good ratio

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  • baller

    dang im gonna miss oink!!! i juz got invited there like about a month ago and juz accesed the site today to find dat they were shut down. damn tha dutch police!!!! oink, u will be missed very much :( and to all those who think demonoid is the shit, its aight but most of the quality on the site isn’t up to par with wat oink had, so back down

  • seedarn

    Soo sad :(

  • sad

    The internet just became alot more useless.

  • yeah,,

    Good luck Alan, today dies a perfectly administered community where sharing was as perfect as it could get.
    You took one for the team. Thank you.

    Farewell OiNK.

    Human knowledge belongs to the world.
    KEEP DOWNLOADING.

  • NJS_Nscizzle

    FUCK THE POLICE!

  • Anonymous

    OiNK Ruled. RIP

  • hard wrkn musician

    good . thats lame that people want to steal other paople’s art then get other people involved in stealing it.then they’re the hero for “leakin it first” and then sharing it across the internet. they basque in the love and adoration that belongs to the artist as if they are the ones who deserve it .. the are common criminals and i’m glad to see justice served. writing can be very painstaking recording at a studio can be very costly. U IDIOTS ARE SHOOTING YOURSELFS IN THE FOOT>>>PAY FOR THE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!

  • 499

    499!!!

  • Anonymous

    Man I loved That site so much.

  • Oh hi

    Hilarious… I find it quite funny when people claim I was “stealing” music by downloading it from sites like Oink. Well, guess what? I wouldn’t have bought ANY of the albums that I’ve downloaded illegally. So, guess what? You’ve lost zero money from my music downloading. But yeah, call me names. The only effect of the shutting down of Oink is that I will get to check out less bands to see live.

    As it stands now, there is a zero percent chance I will ever buy a CD again (save, perhaps, from a merch table at a show of a band I dig). Fuck supporting the out-dated recording industry. They will, quite literally, never get another dime from me.

    God bless the internet, and God bless the fact that file sharing will be around forever. Putting your finger in one hole of the dyke only causes another leak to sprout.

  • Dbag

    I don’t know if I totally agree with your logic, but one thing I definitely agree with is that downloading is NOT stealing. Anyone who says it is needs to think twice about the whole situation.

    Downloading isn’t stealing because someone is willingly giving the music to you. If someone gives you a copy of something that is THEIRS, then that is their right… oh wait no you are stealing.

    If you can’t freely give away a copy of something that you bought, that means you didn’t own it in the first place. If the RIAA/IFPI wants us to buy something that never even becomes ours, then I don’t feel bad at all if they get absolutely $0. I’ll cut them a break and be nice to them though and say that they do deserve every single 0 penny of the $0.

  • Anonymous

    good luck alan. :(((

  • mae

    498 should learn how to spell and be less of an idiot. your music probably sucks dick anyway.

    OiNK.. you will be missed terribly

  • mae

    oh, btw

    http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/

    check the latest.

  • OiNK

    Looks like they got the wrong guy. I’m free.

  • another musician

    OPP site op Alan gets his two pence in. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/25/ninternet125.xml

    Some glaring innacuracies still present (note the insinuation towards the end that OPP made money off merch sales), but this may help set the record a little staighter.

  • pyrohead

    This was the ultimate tracker for Psychedelic trance music. I found such rare stuff on Oink that im sure is not available anywhere else on the internet..RIP oink :(

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194128"][quote comment="193742"]Dude…WOW…LOL
    the last post I read at OiNK was about you, saying something like
    “this flacinhell dude used to spam the forums with flac info, but he was banned due to no apparent reason.”
    lol and 10 hours later, I get the real story.
    You were officially banned,who did you stay on as?[/quote]
    You got some of the story – the real story takes up something like 500 blog posts :D

    I’m not saying who I was – cause I was climbing the ladder of respect by not being me and never questioning things or asking things or mentioning Pedro’s. Just there sharing and leeching what I wanted. Never know the site might come back, either way I have lots of pretend contacts who speak to a pretend person they think is real – when he isn’t cause I’m the real me ;)

    Also of course I have the same going down at Pedro’s – except my goal there is to get promoted to a staff level, and go report the whole place and all its working members and shares to the authorities and really fuck them up. You think OiNK being taken away on BBC News in a police van is bad – wait till you see what will inevitably happen to Pedro :D[/quote]

    More of your delusional dreams. The only people who believe what you post are yourself and those that don’t know about your history. You have been kicked from most torrent sites you have belonged to due to your actions. You have been on a crusade to shut down Pedro’s for many years now and have failed miserably. Why do you continue? Do you lack anything better to do? I hope you keep posting as it just goes to show everyone how full of it you are, and more importantly, what a total joke you are. You have hacked into peoples computers, disrupted many P2P sites, and been a moron in general. None of which is good for the P2P community. I find it amusing you have to post under other people’s names as you don’t have the balls to post under your name. Just shows what a loser you really are. Only the uniformed can take you seriously as those of us that have known you for the last few years know that you never back up what you say with results. One would think that after many years of failing you would get the picture that nobody really cares about you and what you are trying to do, mainly get attention that you apparently lacked growing up. If you are so leet, why have you failed so miserably in all your little attacks? Are you so delusional that you can’t admit the fact , despite what you think, that you will just continue failing? I think everyone can see you for what you are. An attention craving idiot with no real life. That is so sad….

  • loo

    Me cago en la puta, lo digo en español por que ando encabronado this is not fucking possible oink.cd rulz now is dead bastards! ¬¬

  • rainman2006

    the telegraph article raises a great point about google.oink leads u to the downloads but google leads u to oink,so shouldnt they get fucked too? 2 days and im having withdrawal symptoms already .fuckers

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="194223"]LOL. What valid points? You have none.

    You steal music. You’re a weasel, a liar, a scumbag, a loser.[/quote]

    faggot

  • crunk

    who is pedro anyways?

  • rainman2006

    he drives a coach in marbella

  • Anonymous

    assholes. A.C.A.B.
    (all cops are bastards)

  • HAHA

    Serves them right for not giving me an invite.

  • John Mocks

    Damn it… I stand behind you all the way dude.

  • Mikey

    OiNKv2 will be launched Nov1.. see oink.cx.la

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  • rainman2006

    bollocks

  • I

    @ 518

    Who owns oink.cx.la and how do we know it’s legit.

  • rainman2006
  • P

    These authorities disgust me.
    If it was a place that “people put copyrighted music online” why didn’t they arrest the hundreds of thousands users?

    Oh, no… they just nail one guy really badly so everybody gets scared.

    Personally I don’t like to get into hate and insulting discussions. But this is purely disgusting.

    To those who are against ‘piracy’ and that keep using words like ‘stealing’ of ‘copyright infringement crimes’… here is my small advice:

    go jerk off by yourselves and keep us others away from your moralist shit.

    I don’t have to give excuses why i think downloading is legit or not, p2p is there and people like it, if you don’t deal with your shit. nobody really gives a shit about what you think, so fuck off.

    Thank you

    Sorry about this load of bad words and rants. News like this really piss me off. Is UK a democracy? If so, then your concept of democracy is way too old.

  • Old Deuteronomy

    Quality has never been the focus for the majority of the people.

    It doesn’t surprize me that 50% of the people here actually support the takedown.

    Who needs more than 128kbps mp3′s?

  • i

    523

    It wasn’t only about the quality, it was about exploring music, and the community behind it. Everyone did their part to keep it from turning into another torrent site. It had the largest library of music torrents all (for the most part) were properly seeded categorized and maintained.

    It was the best modern electronic library for audio. Nothing will match it. Which brings me to question, how do book libraries allow so many books to lent out to people? Do they own copyright to every book? This is exactly what OiNK was doing for music. Just cause there are libraries, it doens’t mean the publishing industry suffers. To think that you could scan every page for yourself and not pay anything, boggles my mind when interpol and labels are paying millions to shutdown sites like OiNK. It’s because the entertainment business is a greedy bitch, trying to whip us into their outdates ways of business.

    You can’t stop us from sharing. OiNK was only the beginning.

  • Nick

    Fucking IFPI

  • Anonymous

    ive basically grown up in the entertainment industry and what most people dont realise is that its a bad thing when torrent sites are taken down they bring music to parts of the world that would never hear it

    meaning the more people who hear your music the more tshirts/concerts you can do to packed out audiences that may have never have heard your music in the past

    its also easier to show how many people really like your music which means you get bigger and bigger royaltys every time it has been used in tv/movies/advertisments

  • Patriot

    When I heard this news I was more deeply affected than I was when I heard the world trade centers were blown up.

  • Rontez

    Anyone up for some waffles?

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193000"]That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.[/quote]

    Amen brother. fuck’em.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193187"]Where will I get Leopard now?![/quote]

    Duh, Demonoid!

  • Anonymous

    what i dont get is the authoritys arent supposed to get too involved in civil matters like say if i sue a company for not sending me something i had paid for i cant send the cops to the company go through the whole company looking for evidence that i made the order/they didnt send and then seize the equipment they need to run the company and call it evidence

    taking down a torrent site is basically the same thing since copyright law is a civil matter in most cases

    but because of all the advertising and the millions of dollars alot of big companys have put into stopping downloading people call it stealing
    how can somebody steal something you still own? if someone steals your car u cant use your car anymore
    if someone listens to your album if they enjoy it then they will support you by going to your concerts and listening about what you support but u still OWN the album

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  • rainman2006

    529 Oct 28, 2007 at 06:04 by AnonymousQuote Anonymous wrote:

    That’s what you get for making it a private tracker and not giving out invites. I asked for invites several time and you refused. Serve you right. Maybe you should know better next time.

    Amen brother. fuck’em.

    how about fuck u ……. brother

  • re-born

    Flacinhell, you’ve been a bitch from day 1. your communication through the internet has resulted in everyone hating you.

    Not only can you say you’ve done nothing with your life. You can also say that you’ve pissed people off, while doing nothing with your life. what an accomplishment.

    You’ll always be at home talking shit on your computer. cuz if you went out to the real world to do it, you’d get slapped, because that’s just the type of bitch that you are.

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  • geng

    one time allah came too and then i broke the ceramic tool box

  • Acid

    the “Case” wont hold water period
    everything will be giving back because the site didnt host any copyrighted material we are the ones who did the “users” oink just provoded a place for us to meet and share better oink will rise again

  • anonim

    With one of this type of action hundreds of more trackers will be created hahaha :)

  • B33F

    Wow. This crazy. First TV Links. Now this! What the fuck am I going to do now?

    Interesting to see all our responses to this, knowing these comment-ers are the future world leaders. I don’t know weather to jump for joy or run.

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  • dima

    Best of luck to OiNK’s admin. He enriched many people’s lives, for that he should take heart. His efforts were greatly appreciated. If there’s anything we can do to help him, I hope a message will be posted on oink.cd.

  • Eh

    There’s no evidence proving he’s in the wrong. He provided a filehosting website where member were free to upload non-copyrighted material. In the membership statement, it stated members are not to upload copyrighted material. This is one guy running this site with thousands of members.

    Rigged.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="193421"]could someone send me a libble invitation? 36?[/quote]

    could i get an invite too to libble?

  • fuckthecops

    musicians should be doing shows to earn their money. It s the fucking record label whos losing and us the users. This stuff gets unheard of artist known, then we see thier shows or buy their album or t-shirt then tell other people about them, it all works out in the end, ya. I thind these punks should go fuck thier daddys and after that ill take a shit in thier fucking mouth, white power, god damn, fuck you bitches i wish cancer on your familys………….

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  • crackmoney

    i loved you, and in turn you loved me back… where do i go now with no love?

  • gr8fuldead

    Very sad. Every day I discover more of what I love, and now cannot get. I downloaded 2 nightmares on wax albums “Carboot Soul” and “Mind Elevation” and loved them so much, I went to my local record store, and ordered EVERY single cd they had in print. I bought ‘Merl Saunders & Friends – Keepers’ but due to sillyness, scratched it. should I really have to buy another to replace it??? What about out of print stuff, that youd never be able to find, and listen to. Fucking narcs have to take away something that helps musicians, and music lovers, FUCK THE MUSIC INDUSTRY and FUCK NARC ASS BITCHES!!! YARR IM SO MAD!!! I love music!!!!

  • Sidney

    DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIVES AND BUY YOUR MUSIC…….ARTISTS HAVE MORGAGES AND FAMILIES TO FEED TOO !!!

  • Johnth

    OH GOD NO DON’T TAKE THE INTERNET AWAY FROM ME

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  • vjani

    Could someone send me a libble invitation?

  • Anonymous

    Ridiculous if you ask me. It would be nice if those people would get a life and start fighting real cyber crime rather than this crap. Interesting to think how many child molesting predators these people could have arrested instead of arresting one man for what, sharing files?? Please, get a life.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="202686"]DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIVES AND BUY YOUR MUSIC…….ARTISTS HAVE MORGAGES AND FAMILIES TO FEED TOO !!![/quote]

    YOU CAN SUCK ON MY LEFT NUT U FUCK…
    Maybe you should learn how things work before u start talking shit…

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  • Disney

    [quote comment="202686"]DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIVES AND BUY YOUR MUSIC…….ARTISTS HAVE MORGAGES AND FAMILIES TO FEED TOO !!![/quote]
    —Stupid people should not be talking… They should first learn to talk… F***ing idiot bitch !
    Hey go buy your shit yourself, I really know you steal in supermarkets… even music cd’s ?!
    CaPsLoCk seem to have been left on you retard !!!!!!!

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    oink.cd buy a latvian bittorent tracker. http://www.danger.lv
    but question is why?

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