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PayPal Bans BitTorrent Friendly Hosting Provider PRQ

PRQ, the infamous ISP created by Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm of The Pirate Bay, has been nuked by PayPal. After a fruitful partnership lasting three years, PayPal decided to ruin their relationship with the so-called “bullet-proof” hoster by freezing the company’s funds for up to 180 days. On PayPal’s advice PRQ opened a second account to get by while the dispute was being sorted out, but then without warning PayPal seized those funds too.

While most webhosts go about their day to day business without most people knowing they even exist, Sweden’s PRQ has a habit of making international headlines a few times every year.

The ISP, created in 2004 by Gottfrid Svartholm and Fredrik Neij of The Pirate Bay, usually hits the news due to their business strategy. PRQ’s philosophy says that if a website is legal in Sweden, they will not only host it, but defend it to the end. That has made it a haven for controversial sites that are less welcome elsewhere.

Time and again PRQ’s affiliation with The Pirate Bay and other file-sharing domains has seen the company raided, most recently during early October when authorities hunted down the operators of Tankafetast and Appbucket and took down dozens of sites in the process.

PRQ is known for respecting the privacy of its customers, even going as far as accepting cash in envelopes from website operators requiring the highest levels of protection. However, a decision just taken by PayPal might mean that this archaic method of payment becomes more popular in the months to come.

After targeting dozens of file-sharing, file-hosting and Usenet services in recent months, PayPal has just banned PRQ from its service and seized all its funds, not once but twice.

“First they froze our primary account without any prior notice – we can’t even receive funds to it,” PRQ told TorrentFreak in a statement.

“After we contacted their ‘support’ they stated that the support could not help us, BUT the person who was responsible for our account should contact us within a couple of days.”

As of today, PRQ are still awaiting that call, despite having a trading relationship with PayPal for the last three years.

PRQ told us that since PayPal is a big source of payments for the ISP they need to be able to process funds while their account is frozen. So the company asked PayPal for a solution.

“PayPal stated that we just had to open a new account to receive funds to until the primary account problem was resolved, and once it was resolved they would merge the two accounts,” PRQ explained.

That all sounded simple enough, but “PayPal dispute” and “straightforward” aren’t usually terms seen in the same sentence together, and this occasion was no different.

“So we started a second account, and that got frozen too so that we could not withdraw the funds, although we still can receive funds to the account,” says PRQ.

Not content with freezing two accounts, last week PayPal sent an email stating that they will be keeping all funds in PRQ’s primary account for up to 180 days to act as a reserve in case of any chargebacks. PRQ informs us that historically there have been almost none of those.

“That was it for us, that made us decide to discontinue PayPal forever. It’s sad that PayPal decided to f*ck us after three years of service,” PRQ concludes.

In the meantime PRQ is accepting Bitcoins and bank wire transfer while their Visa/Mastercard merchant account is being set up.

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  • sciguyryan

    PayPal has far, far to much control over this sort of stuff. The only way they should be able to do shit like this is with a court order.

    Imagine if a bank came out and said “sorry, you can’t have your money”. They wouldn’t be permitted to do it in instances like this, neither should PayPal.

    • bogdanj

      Yes but PayPal is based in US right? It doesn’t have any physical assets in other countries. Which means no one can touch it. The only thing that people can do is use a different payment method.

      • sciguyryan

        It doesn’t matter where they are based. Wherever they are based they should be subject to the same laws as banks are in that country.

        Also. As the US has so clearly made evident. Being a corporation in another country does not protect you from violating laws elsewhere – time someone applied the same logic to a US company screwing non-US companies I’d say.

        • bogdanj

          But we’re not talking about what’s right and what’s wrong here. Look at the media industries. When did they ever do the right thing!? When did they ever care about human rights? And PayPal is their puppet right now.

        • No

          A mega reference?

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          You act as if this is something new PayPal has had a bad reputation for years ripping off accounts stealing their money.

        • Anonymous

          There have been cases where US-based companies like Blizzard have gotten the stick from EU, but the common principle is that if it does’t have business in the country, the legistlation does not touch it. Unless you got deep pockets, like EU and the media-companies.

          But this is hardly anything new. They had to know this was coming sooner or later, since PayPal is notorious for seizing assets for themselves. The only question is why it took this long.

      • guess who

        wouldn’t it be a pity if anonymouse, or other hacktavist organization, decided to do a non stop ddos attack on paypal.

        • TRU

          Anonymice?

        • Brit

          Yes it would, for those of us who use Paypal.

        • bogdanj

          I don’t think they have the courage to do that. I don’t. But I’m a weak person.

        • boycott Pay-Pal

          No not really. If it does happen, I hope it lasts for weeks on end and that pay pal ends up losing millions in profit.

        • Guest

          This is what I am thinking of doing keeping a permanent fire of DDOSing/Hacking against all the pay-pal/amazon infrastructure for few months people taking turn and until paypal/Amazon is on his knee. There is powerful tools that can be used for this purpose.

          Meanwhile frankly people are foolish to trust PayPal with their money given their criminal background. Are they nut or something? As soon as I learn that they are doing shit like this I closed my account. I am still amazed that although a lot of people did that, most people did not.

          Heloooo! It is time to pay attention folks! Corporations are taking overs our countries! It is time for the people to take counter measures with their pocket book at least because otherwise few more years down the road a lot of corporatists will have to be hanged.

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          Brit you would be better off leaving your money with a Drug addict. PayPal has a long VERY BAD reputation of Stealing clients accounts. They are the MAFIAA of online banking & you trust them too right?

        • Jimmy671

          Brit,Don’t use paypal,it’s the only way to stop the bastards.
          Hit them in the pocket.

      • Maldoror

        Other countries can revoke its status as a bank.

        • bogdanj

          That would be good.

        • Who

          paypal is NOT a bank

        • Anyone

          @Who
          it is in some countries

        • Who

          @Anyone: “the founder of PayPal, has stated that PayPal is not a bank because it does not engage in fractional-reserve banking”

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Regulatory_status

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          @Anyone

          He’s Right, Sadly.

        • JFK

          They declare are not a bank, but they were regulated by banking regulation in some countries.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Paypal makes a good living out of being a “shadow bank” – engaged in fiscal maneuvering without the normal constraints burdening a normal bank.

          As such they are only a “bank” in the same sense many local grocery chains with the ability to open an account is.

          And hence PayPal isn’t covered by a great many draconian laws which would see any accredited bank in court over seizing assets this way.

          Caveat Emptor, as usual. Don’t leave your money with someone unwilling to sign accountability for it.

      • Sven Slootweg

        Actually, they are a registered bank in Luxembourg and as such have to conform to banking regulations within Europe.

      • warcaster

        They can be sued in US.

      • joexxx

        Sure you can. You can sue them in US court.

        • Xult

          The US sues everyone because they think and can rule the world.
          Hello China!

        • Guest

          Sure you can sue them. Better still send the money to me and I will send you pictures of me spending it. You’ll get more value that way. Think about it dumbness, it would be the stupidest move ever to sue Paypal.

      • Batman

        Isnt PayPal registered in the Netherlands?
        -
        In hat case they are NOT a bank and thats why they can have there own rules and do as they want.
        -
        Right or wrong?

    • Julie-AKA-MAFIAA

      No, they freeze the accounts and release the funds after X days…It improves their cashflow as a business. Ask Julie Bainbridge.

    • http://www.blockaid.me/ BlockAid DNS

      We have one of our servers there and not being able to use PayPal is a real pain. Bank transfers cost too much money for single transactions that only occur once a month, so I only hope they get a credit card system set up soon.

      • Veritanuda

        Wonder if they are happy taking MoneyGram payments. I have always found them cost effective and efficient. Of course it is extra hassle for both payee and payer but well.. needs must…

    • Anonymous

      It’s time for some internet users to start a Paypal like website, that isnt based in
      There is clearly a business to do here.

    • Wal-Mart

      Stopping people that steal is not control its a right.

      • sciguyryan

        They stole from nobody, your point is irrelevant.

        • Guest

          You and joexxx should do that from your Mum’s basement.

      • Anyone

        so who is stopping paypal since they are stealing from people?

      • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

        Wal-Mart has a good point finally !
        Even he is seeing PayPal is evil.

        • Who

          “Wal-Mart has a good point finally !”

          re-read what he said.

      • Who

        but stealing form others that steal don’t make things right ether.

      • UraPhake

        “Stopping people that steal is not control its a right.”
        -=-=-

        Okay, time to call bullshit on your trolling of TF.
        You are a hypocrite. Watching movies that you have not paid for and have yet to be released on BD/DVD on a streaming site is the same thing as what you term “stealing” using BitTorrent.

        I know where you indulge in your little sin of “thievery” by viewing streaming movies as described above. Anyone can click on your profile with Disqus and see it. One of the sites you like is myentertainmenthall.org. Do you believe you’re watching legal releases linked through that site? If you believe that, then you are truly dumber than a sack full of squirrel turds.

        Again, you are nothing but a hypocrite and a liar based upon the crap you post here.

      • Guest

        TROLL ALERT

        flagged

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          +1

        • Guest321

          -1

          You are trying to censor his comment even though It’s not spam.

        • Nxczitgs

          Why?

          I know he’s a mafiaa troll, but you need to stop Censoring him, because you’re the same as the mafiaa then!

          Oh, and I think I saw one of the mods(!) saying “he was a troll” or something like that and got all his comments removed?
          What the hell TF?

          Maybe you should change your name to CeshorshipFreak from now on!

        • Jimmy671

          +1

        • DSmit

          x15

    • PirateSoldier

      They are taking peoples money and acting like a bank. Companies like this should be regulated, getting away with far too many incidents like this. Boycott them.

    • Who

      right but paypal is not a bank.

      • Jimmy671

        Sorry to disagree,but in my Country,they are regulated as a Bank.

    • Who

      *I forgot to add*

      if paypal was classified as a real bank then the US government and other US corporate agency’s could take your money just the same as them freezing it.

    • Boycott paypal

      This just further proves that you can never trust ANY 3rd party with your money.
      Pay-Pal has a track record of proving that they are a company that should be boycotted. Let’s hope that bitcoin and other payment processors who respect the rights of their customers become more popular.

    • leexgx

      paypal soon will go out of business if it keeps on just blocking every one apart from ebay

      • Xplorer4x4

        You must be delusional. Will business suffer? Maybe? Will it truly hurt them? Probably not any where close to going out of business given the millions, maybe billions of dollars through generate through ebay transactions.

      • CheeseThief

        You truly are fucking dumber then a brick

    • OneEyedWillie

      Ah but PayPal has been pulling this shit for years with many companies and getting away with it. They even have a machine that picks out accounts with large amounts of cash in it so that they can find any reason to freeze those accounts. The money does not really stay frozen. The guy who runs FuckPal sees it as a “free loan” or just free cash and goes on vacation with the cash. See according to their User agreement they can take your money whenever they want for any reason and not ever give it back. They get away with it because they are NOT regulated at all. They are NOT a bank. They are a money transfer service and their are no regulations for a business like that. What we all need to do is talk to your congressman and make them regulated just like banks.

      • Techanon

        They are registered as a bank in Luxemburg, which makes them a bank in Europe.

      • Jimmy

        In Australia they are regulated as a Bank.

    • OneEyedWillie

      Ah but PayPal has been pulling this shit for years with many companies and getting away with it. They even have a machine that picks out accounts with large amounts of cash in it so that they can find any reason to freeze those accounts. The money does not really stay frozen. The guy who runs PayPal sees it as a “free loan” or just free cash and goes on vacation with the cash. See according to their User agreement they can take your money whenever they want for any reason and not ever give it back. They get away with it because they are NOT regulated at all. They are NOT a bank. They are a money transfer service and their are no regulations for a business like that. What we all need to do is talk to your congressman and make them regulated just like banks.

    • Anonymous

      PayPal is not a bank, despite the fact that it operates as one. Therefore, it is not subject to FDIC regulation. I think this is a problem, personally.

    • brudda
    • Guest

      Yes they should go to the courts and tell the judge they break the rules and want their money back anyway.

  • Guest

    fuck paypal

  • Lethn

    lol Just switch to Bitcoin and then Paypal can’t do a thing.

    • http://twitter.com/lolwhut13375 Chase Hanson

      Except for, you know, kind of *owning* the internet transaction business…

      • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

        Paypal needs more competition, bitcoin is not the answer only a temporary workaround, like a proxy.

    • CheeseThief

      Except Joe Public probably has never heard off or could give any said fucks towards Bitcoin

  • Guest

    Somebody needs to start an online payment service in a country that doesn’t give a fuck about U.S. corporate interests, like Venezuela or something.

    • Guestimate

      Vienna, Austria based paysafecard. PIN bought for cash, pin used to buy online services. Totally anonymous. I’m amazed that more online services are not using this method, also that PRQ who are willing to accept cash are not using it already.

    • http://twitter.com/lolwhut13375 Chase Hanson

      tell that to Kim Dotcom… Because they have SOO LITTLE influence outside of the US!

  • Universal Soldier

    I can’t understand why people still use the bully Paypal. Please move on and make them bankrupt.

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  • Accounts

    LOL they should have figured it out the first time their funds got seized and not opened a second account which would just allow them to steal more money from them.

  • Harold

    This isn’t even surprising. PayPal has a long history of being an unmitigated ass.

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  • JULIE-AKA-MAFIAA

    I’m starting to think Julie Bainbridge (PayPal’s head of Global Brand Risk Management) is a former employee of the MAFIAA or receiving bribes from the industry as such, seeing they’re even banning a hosting provider now. Next stop is Leaseweb because they have hosted some websites that have pissed off BREIN?

    Paypal has lost millions recently by banning left and right. I wonder WHAT Julie Bainbridge brings to the table besides reducing Paypal’s overall revenue figures. To me it seems nothing short of a paycheque from the fee’s they take from their customers and perhaps bribes under the table. If I was a P.I. I would have looked into her by now.

    Perhaps, Torrentfreak can get a comment from her. It did take that assmonkey in Australia 1-2 years to get in touch with Julie through the help of some other GFY-people (that are significant players in the industry) that have far reached into a lot of internet businesses.

    • Anon

      Yes, this. Of course you are correct. Quite naturally people have to be bribed to acknowledge and follow the law.

      • Techanon

        You mean to violate banking laws.

      • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

        What laws?; Please cite.

    • chronoss

      if your share holder sue her

  • Anonymous

    so, the knowledge of the Swedish pirate Party pressing charges against banks for discriminating against Wikileaks, means nothing to Paypal, then. this just stinks, yet again, of influence from the US entertainment industries and US government. why would Paypal do this, after 3 years without interference? why would they instruct that a new account be opened until the problem is sorted out, only to freeze that 2nd account as well, unless there is outside influence. typical fucking Yanks! got to stick their snout in and screw others as much as possible, regardless of where they are, but refuse to have their own rules apply to anything US when in other countries. complete 2 faced assholes that want to and think they are going to rule the world! democracy is now a dirty word in the US language, meaning absolutely fuck all!!

  • Birdhouse

    Merry Christmas for your pals at PayPal! ;-)

    /s

    • Birdhouse

      tsk… from*. Oh well, they are still dicks.

  • Davidbigharddrive

    well the simple answer to american censorship and bully practices dont buy from there american owned products,dont eat at mcdonalds or burgers or anyother american eatery dont shop at starbucks or anyother coffee house run by them dont shop at asdas or tescos or anyother american owned supermarker dont use any other american banks simple if you let the american yanks war mongers get richer by the day by giving them your money of course dont moan do something about it

    • http://twitter.com/lolwhut13375 Chase Hanson

      Simple: Dont do anything remotely involved with the major world superpower that controls much of the rest of the world through mostly indirect practices and have a hand in almost everything from manufacturing to governments!
      Oh, wait.
      Uhh… Did you even think before typing that? Apparently not, as evidenced by your A+ English.

      • Who

        “major world superpower”
        LOL I hope you do know that CHINA owns the US.

        • Uh…

          That’s not entirely accurate, although the USA owes a debt of trillions to China.. China has yet to turn the USA into the USC. So they’re still unofficially owned, besides CHINA doesn’t really interfere with American politics, regulations, and laws… though I wonder what the Chinese think of the USA entertainment business and government F’ing everyone all the time. Oh and my typing is damn near perfect, tho I’m only a ‘skilled’ typist, I’ve yet to hit skill lvl: AZN.

        • http://twitter.com/lolwhut13375 Chase Hanson

          “Uhh…” is right.
          And when I said “major world superpower,” I meant it as in the U. S., and to a lesser extent U. S. culture, basically influences pretty much every country in the world.

        • Who

          @Uh…: just about EVERY job that used to be in the US is now located in china, just about everything that was made in the US is now made in china, the US entertainment business*as well as others* is in china now. so guess what? CHINA own the US.

          BTW American politics, regulations, and laws have nothing to do with ownership.

      • Boycott Pay-Pal

        That doesn’t make him wrong. His intent is still valid. Voting with your dollar is still a very good way to make a point. It’s one of the few things that gives people a sense of influence, and the hope that they can change the things they don’t like. if you spend some time to research, you can in fact pick and choose who you do business with to a great extent. You should not be so quick to discount his methods.

  • JordanKratz

    Fuck Paypal !
    I really would like to see Torrentfreak do a News Story on the various Alternatives we can use.Rate them and put them all in one Article.
    I will Dump Paypal entirely if I know what else I can try out.

    • Goober

      How fucking clueless and lazy are you that you can’t be bothered to Google that for yourself? It’s not as if this is “new” coming from Paypal.

      • JordanKratz

        Actually I am not Clueless and Lazy ! And to tell the Truth you are one Asshole Supreme.
        An Informative Article by Torrentfreak would be very helpful to many who would like to know about the various Alternatives to Paypal.
        I do not always have the time and finding the Energy to keep up all the stuff I am doing now can be a task.
        I have Incurable Hep-C and have had this for 26 years now.
        Paypal has been up to their Nefarious Ways for a long time.I am well aware of that !!!

        • Gsys

          Another thing we can do, is those who still have a paypal account and have been finally pushed to the edge (screw ebay…..until things change)hold of from cancelling, if everyone whose commited to cancelling wait for a “viral – paypal losses record number of memebers, citing, internet freedom movement” or something along those lines, that way we can add to the numbers and give our reasons if they give that option

          I hope it comes one day, i hope it comes soon, i hope torrentfreak has the forsight to post the news quickly, and i hope we can spread it far and wide.

          What dreams may come

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          +1 for “Asshole Supreme”

  • http://twitter.com/Mido1000 Ahmed Omar

    DAMN IT !!! …PayPal are a bunch of scammers …freezing prq funds without permission is LEGAL and downloading mp3 Record is iLLEGAL and you will be imprisoned if you do …USA fuck your democracy …LIARS !!

  • DannyUfonek

    PRQ should sue PayPal, that’s the only solution here. It also seems from the article that PayPal didn’t state a reason for freezing PRQ’s account.

    • Julie-AKA-MAFIAA

      And lose? You do know engaging in a lawsuit, the initial cost looks at 100,000 USD. You think they’re really THAT bothered and SURE they will win? You think suing someone is that EASY?

      You’re fighting a billion dollar corporation…A swedish host that makes XX,XXX USD a month on hosting will NOT engage in such courtbattles.

      As you may not have much knowledge surrounding Terms, it is in Paypal’s policy that they can terminate your account however the fuck they like and want.

      Paypal are cunts and Julie Bainbridge is a MAFIAA slave.

      • Who

        “the initial cost looks at 100,000 USD”

        Um…Noooooo…”initial cost” is the fee the layer charges you to get things rolling, each one differs. IF the case gets dragged out for a long time then yes the cost MIGHT be 100.000 USD.

        MAFIAA….Y don’t you spend a shit load of that stolen money you have and PAY for a education.

        • Julie-AKA-MAFIAA

          You moron. You drop the word “civil lawsuit” like its a God given word. Lawyers DON’T work on pro-rata or free… To file a civil lawsuit you have to cough up the 100K to get the ball rolling.

          …And you will still lose since you really don’t have much to say when playing on Paypal’s platform. Any lawyer will see this coming.

          And dickwad; I don’t work for the MAFIAA. I just point out you can’t do anything against Paypal OR Julie Bainbridge (MAFIAA employee)

      • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

        “As you may not have much knowledge surrounding Terms, it is in Paypal’s policy that they can terminate your account however the fuck they like and want. “

        [Terms Of Service] are paper thin.

    • chronoss

      and have the hosting of a child molestation advocacy groups website get press…idon’t think they will
      bend over you sickos the end is coming

      • Anyone

        I was wondering when you’d show up with your unhealthy paedophile obsession

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          I think there is 2 [chronoss] on here, as I’ve seen him post both ways several times, or he’s just trolling like the usual batch.

      • Christopher Kidwell

        chronoss, there is such a thing as the human right to free speech. GET DAMNED WELL USED TO IT!

        PedoSEXUALITY is just the new boogie man for society now that homosexuals and heterosexuals outside of marriage cannot be used for that. That includes the ‘child molesters’ 99.9% of whom are having consensual sexual relationships with children that society finds out about and ‘frowns’ upon because it does a good job of debunking their ‘sex is bad, sex is wrong’ bullshit.

  • Heystoopidone

    Pay-Poor, has a long well known history of being it’s own police,judge, jury and and executioner, without recourse, to higher authorities other than itself.

    It’s incorporation charter, makes for very interesting reading on how one can evade and avoid all rules and regulations concerning banks and financial institutions, throughout the western world.

    Using Pay-Poor, as a means to allow users to transfer funds, is playing with dynamite, quite literally!

    There is a number of web sites detailing the regular scam run by this institution of questionable integrity.

    • Techanon

      Can you point us to one of those sites?

      • Christopher Kidwell

        Paypal Sucks. Enough said. After viewing that I deemed that I would NEVER do business with Paypal and any business that had only Paypal buying? Lost my business forever.

        • IDIOCRACY

          Exactly why I moved all my business away from anything that has to do with servers or payment service providers or other resources on USA soil. I moved all after they started taking down websites, and moved all paypal services immediately after the first major Paypal scam with wikileaks..
          Americans are just no trustworthy business partners anymore. Now all (non critical) is outsourced in China and all critical on my own servers, customers pay by bank transfer to a different company based in a different country that pays my bills, soon adding to bitcoin too.
          No more US involvement in anything my company does… let them feel the shrinking cash-flow, we should all do the same… pull your business out of US, customers from US do not need US based resources in your company. you really can do without them.

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  • torrent freakster

    After the illegal seizure of money from sites, PRQ still stayed with PayPal ?!

    Anyone with a brain would discontinue their paypl account after that.
    Anyone with some intelligence would not use PayPal at all.

    I did research before deciding on getting paypal years ago. My researched showed paypal is an asshole of douchebaggery. There is no legal actions you can take against them for illegally holding on to money that is not theirs.

    Paypal never was a secure way of buying stuff. There are lots of cases where people have getting away with both product and money. Gotten their account freezed for no reason, etc.

    Paypal is not holding the money for chargebacks. They are holding it to troll PRQ. To cause trouble and kiss american MPAA ass.

    American laws are so messed up and on the big companies side that they allow a company such as paypal to operate.

    paypal would face legal action for the crap they have pulled if they were in Sweden.

    I say DDoS paypal into submission. 6 months would do it i think.

    • http://twitter.com/lolwhut13375 Chase Hanson

      … You guys DO realize this has already been done, right? Look up Mercedes Haefer…

  • Abc

    Anyone who makes Paypal an important part of their business model is asking for trouble. It’s like doing business with the mob. As long as they like you or don’t notice you all is well. But rub ‘em the wrong way and you are dead. Years ago when Meg Whitman ran the ebay/PP axis she proclaimed that no law enforcement agency would need a court order to get information from “her” companies. Just ask and all would be revealed. Of course the customers were livid but what could they do? She was the only game in town. PP has always craved the power to regulate their customers and Donahue has followed in Megs footsteps with regard to this.

    • Anon

      Regulate their customers?

      Perhaps you mean distance themselves from pirate losers. Fixed that. :-)

      • Who

        soon you will see the folly of your ways.

      • Boycott Pay-Pal

        No… What Pay Pal has done yet again is let their customers know loudly and clearly that they can not be trusted with their customers money. It’s ironic when you think about the parallels of this business model compared to the RIAA and MPAA suing their customers. There’s only one way it’s going to end… I’ll spell it out for you. These companies are going to be bankrupt, disrespected, discredited, and made totally obsolete by human innovation and progress. Their customers are going to switch to companies that respect human rights, and who honor the agreements that they make. We can only hope that all of the CEO’s who run dishonest, unethical corporations like the RIAA and the MPAA, while wallowing in the misery of their own self induced failure, decide to stick a loaded shotgun in their mouth and pull the trigger. Truly, It’s the only meaningfull contributation they can possibly make to society.

  • Boycott PayPal

    This is why PayPal is doing this so recklessly —– THE MPAA IS PAYING THEM! —-

    “I agree to indemnify PayPal from and against any and all claims, losses, liabilities, costs, and expenses, including reasonable attorneys’ fees, which PayPal may incur in connection with the restriction of the account or removal of infringing content identified in this notice.”

    • chronoss

      that cash wont last
      and it means another set a people they have to bribe

  • Teds

    interesting

  • Micoolpaul

    I’ve had this with PayPal always asking for physical evidence such as shipping for services despite it being electronic downloads that my brother has sold. They blocked my brothers PayPal, then due to the same address blocked my mums, dads and my PayPal then blocked my girlfriends PayPal for having used my IP address in the past. Now we can’t close our accounts but have instead had them suspended permanently. So now instead my PayPal account has fake details and bank information as they can still have access to your bank account to do credit assessments and shadow viewings (they’ve done a few of these). PayPal are a true horror story of a company. They need to sink soon.

    • Who

      Ummm have your bank block paypal. by law *US law* paypal must have YOUR permission to access you bank information and having your bank block them that fixes that shit.

  • FogFimFoo

    Wow, sound like Paypal rules with an iron fist!
    http://www.AnonDo.tk

  • sammyman

    i just banned my paypal account .. i’ll never use them again

  • Bobsuruncle

    Bitcoin

  • PayNothing

    I’m not your pal, buddy!

  • https://twitter.com/OffensivAtheist Bismarket

    This censorship by the back-door stuff really pisses me off, i’d advise anyone who can to boycott PP & host any websites they have with PRQ, unless we fight back in some way this will eventually affect YOU!

    • chronoss

      you get it for not just hte pirating…

  • Anon

    As I offered yesterday. “as allies fall away.” This trend is inevitable.

    Not only will PayPal benefit from distancing themselves from infringement, but the very few pirates they lose will be overwhelmed by the rest of the legitimate world flooding in to work with one of the best online pay methods in the world.

    Enjoying your shrinking little pirate island? lol

    • Fsa

      99.9% of the people PayPal screws are normal customers.

      • Anon

        Not anymore. lol

        • Guest

          The only way that they will stop screwing with customers if they go bankrupt lol

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          “Not anymore.”

          No Always.

    • Geist111

      Many legitimate people and companies with no connections to “piracy” would disagree that PayPal is “one of the best online pay methods in the world.” They have a long history of fucking their customers over.

    • guest

      i don’t post here often, but seriously troll?
      “Enjoying your shrinking little pirate island? lol”
      do you have any idea how many ways there is to “pirate” if you did your eyeballs
      would explode, why don’t you stick with your itunes and go fuck yourself
      we’re all sick and tired of your drivel

    • Who

      “the legitimate world”

      there is NOTHING legitimate going on with ANY industry in this world.

    • Jmorse43508

      OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIKOUS

      No one here except the other trolls is buying your lies and bullshit.

      Your stupidity, mind boggling as it almost always is, never ceases to amaze me.

    • Guest

      “one of the best online pay methods in the world.”

      lol, you’re advertising for them?

      Link between the MAFIAA and Paypal confirmed.

  • Ark_gamer

    It’s time for an alternative to Paypal, they’ve turned themselves into the self-appointed internet police.

    • chronoss

      money orders still work
      hehe
      time to get a job at post office LOL

  • Lulo

    cut the snake head, its always works

  • Anonymous

    “Visa/Mastercard merchant account”

    Bad idea. Visa and Mastercard are in bed with the IFPI, remember?

    • Anon

      From todays HypeBot;

      “BitTorrent is how companies like Facebook, Wikipedia, Blizzard and Twitter scale code deployment. BitTorrent is how the Internet Archive preserves and protects cultural artifacts…BitTorrent is behind artists. BitTorrent is for fans.”

      And real fans pay for what they take, they don’t just take. Let’s not forget that. :-)

      • Who

        “And real fans pay for what they take”

        with in reason yes……currently NOTHING is with in reason.

      • chronoss

        child molestation your free speech issues now? prq hosts it…
        shows how sick htey are and how sick the swedish are

        • Guest

          if they host it then report it to the police instead of mouthing off about it on here, this aint the place for such talk!!!

      • Guest

        @Anon

        You’re a lying MAFIAA employee who conveniently always ignores the fact that pirates are the best paying customers. Let’s not forget that.

        http://www.google dot com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=filesharers+%22buy+more%22

      • Fredrika

        > “And real fans..”

        Pirates are the best fans there is, because they pay more than non-pirates, they are one of the main reasons artist currently are thriving and making more money than ever before.

        > “..pay for what they take..”

        Nope. You still haven’t learned the basic fundamentls of how business is, or how the marketplace and basic trade works in reality? You pay for what you buy. If you don’t buy anything, there’s nothing to pay for. Even five years old’s understand this.

        > “..they don’t just take.”

        And still, manufacturing isn’t never taking.

        > “Let’s not forget that.”

        Don’t worry, people do remember that you don’t understand reality.

  • LOVELESBIANS

    http://www.scenetime.com is open for registration from the 24th of December till the 1st of January

    • chronoss

      its hosted on prq is it?
      it will get hacked

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  • chronoss

    and parent poster neglects also home of the child molestation advocacy website

    ya know the one sthe two pirate bay owners say is free speech that any human you meet on street thinks is utterly sick and revolting

    you screw yourself with every story about the pirate bay and there supporters

    • Guest

      and you screw yourself chronoss in mouthing off about child porn on this site instead of reporting it to the police. The TorrentFreak website is not the site for such talk!!!

      • Who

        the problem is that P2P is more frowned on then child porn/pedi is. the rich get away with that crap all the time. and you even see it in movies. so you could say the MPAA encourages it.

        but ya I agree it should be reported.

  • Fornoeyes

    Nejtillpirater would have liked this, had he not been censored/blocked by TF.

    • Guest

      What, seriously? Has that incessantly lying MAFIAA-bot actually been banned?

      If so, merry Christmas to Torrentfreak

  • http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation

    I KEEP hearing this. What kind of idiots are these people that they LEAVE funds in their PayPal accounts knowing that they are vulnerable? I mean I leave funds in PayPal, but I’m not running a business which is a copyright violator.

    • Anyone

      neither is PRQ

    • Christopher Kidwell

      Neither are they. They host some sites that the MAFIAA like to bullshit are copyright violators, but they host NO content on them, just links to content and torrent files.

      • http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation

        yayaya, are you saying they don’t know the score?

        • Christopher Kidwell

          No, I’m saying that by the laws AS THEY ARE WRITTEN, these websites are not illegal and are not copyright violators. They are akin to Google.

    • Brian_R_Allen

      …. What kind of idiots are these people that they LEAVE funds in their PayPal accounts ….

      A glitch once apparently showed up on either mine or my customer’s Pay Pal account and that bunch of bastards reversed a satisfactorily (to me and my client) completed transaction, arbitrarily reached into my bank account and removed $3,800.00 which it then froze along with both my client’s and my accounts for the almost two years (and thousands of aggregate hours) it took us to get back around 60% of our money.

      PayPal is a criminal gang by any other name!

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  • dwpbike

    the only action that will affect paypal is for me to go elsewhere. i will gladly go, just tell me where.

  • Gmail

    “After a fruitful partnership lasting three years, PayPal decided to ruin their relationship”

    Fucking lol’d

  • Thom

    PayPal needs to sued. They’re fucking idiots whom I never trusted since day 1.

    • Dude

      Businesses need to stop using paypal, they control your money beyond reach.

  • http://eNaRDe.com/ eNaRDe

    Easy solution….Create your own Pay Pal like service. Call it Torrent Pal.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5509de8970c ???

    Paypal are thieves

  • Darkness

    Yes, sensoring is what we prefer!

  • The Saints

    PayPal is nothing without people using it, so lets reduce it to nothing?
    There are other choices out there so lets start a boycot, spread the word; PayPal are scamming companies and seizing YOUR payments, donations and money.

    Simple as that, time to close up shop.

  • AlphaReticulum

    I think there needs to be a full blown boycott of anything pay-pal. Let em know that the sword can cut both ways. I don’t use em anyways. And it seems they are in the bed with those who wish to stifle Internet freedom.

  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    They were still using PayPal? That’s like hanging out with crackheads and bitching that your shit got stolen.

    • Brian_R_Allen

      …. They were still using PayPal? That’s like hanging out with crackheads and bitching that your shit got stolen ….

      Well said!

      Hear! Hear!

      Paypal was never more than a Ponzi-like pack of RICO-racketeering rat-bag trip-and-slip snake lawyers, chasing other peoples dough, instead of ambulances!

  • Andrew me

    The only reason that paypal got so big was because of paypal, Amazon could do the same so could Google if they wanted, What will be fun is when real banks start developing systems that make it easier to make payments online without having to give half of your life history. A simple pin number and password is all that is needed , more protection than paypal and none of the hassle of having to transfer money around, then they can force ebay to accept them as a pay system and paypal dies a sudden and quick death I sold £80 worth of goods on ebay and with ebay and paypal fees together i paid almost 25% now that is a rip off of a great magnitude, no wonder a lot of people are using alternatives, especially facebook where a lot of people are advertising things and cash sales are done.

  • Bakapinkuu

    Sooner or later, this behavior is going to bite them in the ass… I work for an organization that not even the most imaginative MAFIAA employee would accuse of copyright infringement, but we just recently decided against PayPal as a payment processor precisely because they’re gaining a reputation for being way too happy to freeze accounts with little to no provocation. It may take a while for them to recognize it, but they’re generating a powerful backlash by being so willing to bite the hands that feed them on anyone’s say-so. And eventually, it’ll be their undoing.

  • robthom

    Hasn’t paypal fucked over enough people all these years.

    They were always a little wonky but then got real bad when ebay bought them,
    (along with ebay getting shittier too).

    I dont understand why someone else cant just copy the paypal model and offer an alternative?

    There are lots of people who would be interested in that.

  • Hassan

    Execute the boss of PAyPal. Simple and efficient.
    It should be public. It should be bloody.
    The message must be sent that ones billions, FBI and corrupt judges dont mean squat against Justice.

  • ssj12

    To bad PayPal has a billion and half patents that make it so we cant make a competing service (isnt monopolies illegal?).

    And I am completely lost on one point. PayPal’s CEO has been investing in seasteading and other alternative government ideas, assuming to get out of the USA and work under his own law. How is it that a man that invests in ideas of secession and anarchism, but allows his company to do this shit? Does he have zero control over how PayPal operates?

  • http://www.facebook.com/chillinfart Arturo Julio Zevallos Córdova

    That subjectivity is more common than you can imagine. Two months ago, my bank (Interbank) blocked a payment to Neteller without reason. And claim for this kind of issues can take months here in peru.

    I heard that the European Union is planning a bill to forbid any payment block that doesn’t have a specific reason. I hope that bill get approved.

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  • Allaa

    fuck paypal, they are stelling my money on every transaction

  • nitaipanle
  • ReyTFox

    PayPal needs to be trust busted.

  • guniang
  • Magicman

    I keep telling them they will never stop piracy and they still keep wasting their time. I still make good money from my piracy site and Paypal and adultking will not stop me.

  • Guest

    It’s amazing reading how people think Paypal are in the wrong for telling companies to stick to their rules and when companies don’t and get found out. They bleat. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. It really is that simple.

    I will let the rest of you kids dream about someone suing Paypal. I only wish one of these companies would try it. Just to shut you guys up.

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