Pirate Parties Supply Wikileaks With Much Needed Servers

Ernesto
December 5, 2010
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While most traditional political parties are wary of supporting the actions of whistleblower site Wikileaks, Pirate Parties around the world have made it very clear whose side they are on. Just before the weekend Wikileaks moved to a Pirate Party owned domain, and today a conglomerate of Pirate Parties have just announced that they are now providing the site with several much needed mirror servers.

wikileaks pp This week has been quite a ride for Wikileaks, and for the herd of journalists that have been reporting on the site’s hosting difficulties. At times it almost seemed that the technology behind the site was becoming more interesting than the actual content being released, much to the delight of the US Government.

Between the DDoS attacks and the DNS-server bans, it almost went unnoticed that a leaked cable from the Spanish embassy showed that the United States wrote Spain’s proposed copyright law. An interesting revelation to say the least.

It is expected that future cables will reveal more about how deeply the copyright lobby is being played out at the highest political levels, including more details on the ACTA lobby. But, this of course requires that the public has access to the released materials. Here, Pirate Parties worldwide are lending a hand.

Just a few days ago Wikileaks was ‘saved‘ by the Swiss Pirate Party, who helped the whistleblower site after they were kicked out by their nameserver provider. Today, a coalition of Pirate Parties is stepping up to host a worldwide network of mirror sites for Wikileaks, making it virtually impossible to shut the operation down.

“Pirate Parties from around the world, including the Pirate Party UK, today reaffirmed their commitment to whistleblowing worldwide. Concerned about freedom of information, opinion and press, the Pirate Parties have decided in a joint resolution to make Wikileaks available on a worldwide mirroring infrastructure,” the UK Pirate Party just announced.

“The mirrors will guarantee that the release of US diplomatic cables can continue and previous publications will stay online,” the Pirates add, explaining that the new solution is not just redirecting people to one central server, but actually hosting files on different servers scattered around the globe.

The initiative is supported by the Pirate Parties of the Czech Republic, Austria, Australia, Germany, Luxembourg, Romania, Russia, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. With the added mirrors they hope to keep Wikileaks online and fight the political and technological pressure the US Government has put on the hosting providers of site.

Over the last week many hosts have abandoned Wikileaks due to the controversial nature of the site and the continued DDoS attacks.

Interestingly enough, the US Government hasn’t gone after the Wikileaks domain yet. This should be an easy job considering the seizure of Torrent-Finder last week, and the fact that the US Government is the copyright holder of the leaked cables.

Even if the .org domain is seized, Wikileaks is not going away since there are still plenty of backup domains around which can be used.

In a way, this cat-and-mouse game is reminiscent of the anti-piracy efforts against torrent sites such as The Pirate Bay that we’ve witnessed over the years. Every time a hosting provider cuts off access, the site reappears somewhere else unharmed. If a domain is seized, a new one is registered in a matter of seconds and the game continues.

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Hickster

Great article and BRAVO to the pirat party in saving TRUE journalism, if their were more people like Wikileaks and John Pilger in the Main stream their would be GREATER transparancy. The only media the US and UK and others are interested in is embedded journos or is that “In bed with”

The internet is like water, they will NEVER be able to plug ALL the gaps, we WILL prevail!
Mssr.

The US government doesn’t own copyrights. If the government produced it by itself, it’s in the public domain. So no, the DMCA is not a valid recourse for the government.
SwEEt.

“If you have a unix-based server which is hosting a website on the Internet and you want to give wikileaks some of your hosting resources, you can help!”

Mass Mirrors
Hom3r

@3 yup, I did mine. If anyone is wondering, they have an auto script that uploads/updates their files. I’m pretty sure no humans directly access your server.

If you setup a mirror (or want to find one), be sure to add it here: http://noconscience.com/
johnson

so was the origin of the DDos attacks against Wikileaks actually discovered? that would prove very interesting!
Henry Smallwood

Mssr is correct. The documents of the state belong to the People. Designated agents of the People may for a time hold access to sensitive material for legitimate purposes, but ultimately the People of the United States own everything in the government. We are their masters and they need to be reminded of that often.
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Free

Everyone who lives outside the US and and have a FTTH line should make a mirror of Wikileaks. It won’t be dangerous at all if everyone does it.
elduka

i have no problem with attacking the copyrights and such but i draw the line at attacking the military
jonakajon

It is correct that any document created by an employee of the US Government is in the public domain BUT that does not mean any US Government document can be used in any way. Classified documents are one exception.
politux

“Interestingly enough, the US Government hasn’t gone after the Wikileaks domain yet. This should be an easy job considering the seizure of Torrent-Finder last week, and the fact that the US Government is the copyright holder of the leaked cables.”

The documents in question weren’t copyrighted, they were classified. Two different ballgames.

There is no one more in favor of Wikileaks than I. However, we should be careful not to conflate the struggle to decriminalize non-commercial file sharing with the desire of a few individuals to disclose incriminating secret documents.
gaqzi

Here is a step-by-step guide for setting up a Wikileaks mirror: http://sanitarium.se/blog/2010/12/howto-setting-up-a-wikileaks-mirror/
Anon

Months before this bill’s (theoretically) passed and it’s already being pounded into oblivion. Nice to know that the government fails miserably at what they’re trying to do right now. Piracy is too big. Pirates can be slowed, but never destroyed. Onward to freedom!
Anonymous

I bet Senator Lieberman is mad enough to spit sparks. >:D
Free

@elduka We don’t wan’t to attack the military. We support a free and open government, where everyone should be accountable to we, the people.
Anonymous

I applaud the actions in this article.
I am a US citizen but am not proud of the total lack of integrity and honesty in our current government.

Look at the hypocrisy here. If someone uploads a movie prior to release all every effort is made by the FBI and MPAA to find out who did it and shut down all sources. But no one is doing anything about the DDos attacks on wikileaks servers.

No one person could sustain those type of attracts without some clandestine government assistance. No one is the government is complaining and the FBI seems to be turning a blind eye to this illegal activity. Apparently breaking the law in this case is OK.

Neither copyrights nor government secrets need to be tolerated they way they are. If you have to hide a lot of information from the people you represent they you are not really a democracy.

Copyrights impede creativity and create artificial markets. I believe competition needs to be reintroduced into the artistic market. A writer or a musician could not rest on their laurels and collect money their whole life if the copyright only lasted say 10 years. This paradigm that an idea or creation (Non tangible) deserves some type of lifetime protection is ludicrous.

By preserving an idea via copyright may be we miss out on a better idea. What if patents lasted 100 years and ford was the only brand of car on the road?

Anyway I appluad wikileaks I think what they are doing is good. There needs to be much more transparency in government. And I applaud the piracy groups for what they are doing. I think they are also providing a great service. Long live free speech. Isn’t it interesting that the US want’s to continue to take away freedoms while it is a swede that is pushing freedom from government tyranny?
Caller of Hope

world history teaches us one thing: Go against the people’s will and finish your career dangling from a rope!

The People want freedom, they want the truth! Trying to keep the truth from them is not only unwise but also a crime!

I don’t see what is so secret that my elected officials have to keep the truth from me. My Country is not THEIR country, we only allow them to run it in the hope that they will take care of our best interest! Well I think that my best interest resides in full disclosure of my government dealings with other nations, in full disclosure of backroom deals and secret meetings. This will ensure that corruption can be exposed and eradicated.

This is what is in OUR best interest!

Good work to all Pirate Parties around the world who stand up against secrecy and corruption!
Free

I strongly agree with 17. We have to take back our democracy, not just in the US, but everywere in the world.

It’s time to built a framework for fair competition and open cooperation. Let’s put an end to all the costly secrets (costly in money, jobs, and… lives).
Blackplan

@10: Even when said military have committed multiple atrocities with no provocation or justification?
lol

@16 your right everyone should be held accountable for their actions including copyright groups that pay politicians to file insane laws around the world. But, who is going to do anything about it? No one that’s who. No one is going to lobby the white house and complain because they can’t share movies, music, games or anything else. No one is going to stand outside the white house in the thousands saying save wikileaks classified government documents are ours not yours. The fact is sitting at your pc posting comments on a website isn’t going to do anything for anyone. Until the masses start to group in public in the tens of thousands no one is going to listen to anything people have to say. And that’s just not going to happen.
Not Here…

Just remember:

If you don’t want to be embarrassed by acts you commit, don’t commit them in the first place.

If you don’t want to be found in compromising documents, don’t sign them.

If you don’t want to worry about exposure, don’t do anything that would embarrass you.

If you don’t have anything to hide, you’ll not show up on WikiLeaks.

This is meant to be a dissuader. Respect it, and you’ll be respected.

Next, Banks & other villains.
Anonymous

My favorite article on TorrentFreak till this time! Pirates are great )
Free

@19 In fact, itting at your pc can be useful : there are now 208 mirrors of Wikileaks all around the globe.
Free

@19 In fact, sitting at your pc can be useful : there are now 208 mirrors of Wikileaks all around the globe.
GoGli

not a smart idea to tie yourself to a sinking ship lol.
Res

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/12/ap-wikileaks-server-goes-offline-120510/
Anonymous

Yes, yes, yes!
Anonymous

I closed my Paypal acpte because Paypal closed the Wikileaks acpte.

Everyone do the same!

Everyone boycott Amazon too!

Please!
Anonymous

“so was the origin of the DDos attacks against Wikileaks actually discovered? that would prove very interesting!”

Oh! Deuce! The Pentagon of course! And the US gov is going to tell us that DDOSing is illegal.

Let DDos more!

Amazon, Paypal, Itune. . .

These are worth it targets that would really hurt.
Etu

Just got my english translation of fridays happenings up, I was in the Telecomix-channel wholeday and posted news on twitter to get new and good news up.

http://elis.nu/index.php/2010/12/my-day-with-internet-war-part-1/
João

@ 19 and others
-The fact is sitting at your pc posting- vote or opinion
here for example;(free memberschip)
http://www.credolongdistance.com/members
https://www.eff.org
http://torrentfreak.com (THANKS)
WAKE UP,it´s no longer on the streets(just carnaval and the pope),
ask the postman…..

p.s.
Viva a liberdade do Internet……….
Anonymous

“a leaked cable from the Spanish embassy showed that the United States wrote Spain’s proposed copyright law. An interesting revelation to say the least.”

Hopefully we will be able to find some leaked cable helping us to understand how the Us government managed to High jack the Swedish justice.

I am referring to the Pirate bay spectrial and the Julian Assange framing scandals with this BS sex-crime stuff that not even the mainstream media believe.

Hopefully we can get more perpetrators names beside those we already knows.

The masks are off people and the world now know who are these people and what they are doing. Now it is our turn to do something about it.
Jigsy

@5 (johnson):

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was the U.S. and UK gov’t… (And prolly a few others too.)
Francisco George

The Spanish Pirate Party also will join the efforts of their international peers.
h33t

bravo!
Anonymous

The world wide civil war between the corporatists and the citizen has begun.

They has been few first battles after the entertainment industry tried unsuccesfully to Ddos the pirate bay causing the shutdown of something like a few dozen entertainment industry websites by the anonymous troops.

One US and one UK gov website also has been taking down in the process.

Now the pentagon has just undergone a massive Ddos and Hacking attack on wikileaks. This attack failed as wikileaks became invulnerable by acquiring 38 new domain names more than 200 miror site locations and few thousand proxy servers:

US government: 0 Internet:1

Now this is the people turn and the suspense is killing me.

Is it not an objective description of the situation?
redesigned

keep up the good work everyone.

transparency and accountability are the cornerstones of a fair, just, and free government.

the service wikileaks provides the world is crucial.

whistle blowers against corporate thugs are protected by government, but who will protect the whistle blowers against government thugs? we the people, that’s who!
SMEAGOOL

KEEP IT UP!!
GREAT WORK…..
jovialau

Julian Assange is not Swedish…He`s Australian…The only reason he is not in Australia,is because the Austalian government is ass licking congress…And he rightly…does not trust them!
cheese

Is there anything I can do as a citizen to help out these private parties? Business I could support?
Ninja

This is plain epic.

They are trying to silence and kill WikiLeaks then several Pirate PArties in a joint effort provide several mirrors everywhere.

But this is not the end of it, PEOPLE are willing to provide their OWN bandwidth to provide a massive mirror system.

Attempts to silence WikiLeaks failed EPICALLY. WikiLeaks won EPICALLY.

I am glad to be able to witness this personally. Now to close the year in an EPIC way, the charges against Mr Assange could be cleared and proven false and he could counter the freaks with a lawsuit for false claims and whatever. This would be epic beyond words. I don’t think many of us believe those accusations, not after what we have seen lately in WikiLeaks.
Pete

Although I’m a pirate, I personally feel that the Pirate Parties over stepped the line. Sure there are interesting tidbits in the memos they published but ultimately this may result in a backlash between nations. I’m not sure if the parties are doing this as an “In your face” to the governments or if they truly believed that the publication of sensitive documents is good. We now walk a narrow path…
geek

Pirate just put a bigger target on their back, not a smart move. We have enough problems fighting the copyright police, we don’t need to help commit treason whether you agree or disagree the documents were Classified that is treason period.
V

makes me smile.

Julian Assange stated in an interview

“If there is a battle between the US military and the preservation of History, we have insured History will win”
anonymous

huge respect to ppi!
the truth is out there!
Fu Manchu

Who will be Time’s 2010 person of the year? Right now, Julian Assange is first. Please vote online.
jovialau

@36 Rather I…Walk a narrow path of truth….Than a wide path of treachery and deceit!!
Anonymous

what gets me is that Assange didnt steal the cables, he is publishing them. The USA is chasing him trying to apply pressure to shut wikileaks yet the NY times, the guardian (UK) and others already have copies of the cables and chosen what they will run with yet the US Gov isnt spitting fire at the NY times, they wouldnt dare. They know full well that free speech aside, where they to try targetting the NYT the major newspapers in the states would close ranks and it would be political suicide. Long term Obama needs the press/media far more than they need him. So they target the little guy.
Harry Pits

Anyone willing to boycott PayPal for cutting off Wikileaks account? Let’s get the protests rolling.
Anonymous

Stop parroting US government propaganda!

The US government and its lap-dog media are calling the leaks just “gossip” but there’s plenty of evidence of corruption being exposed. These are our generation’s Pentagon papers (see Nixon, Watergate).

Just one example – The Bush administration “pressured Germany not to prosecute CIA officers responsible for the kidnapping, extraordinary rendition and torture of German national Khaled El-Masri”
(from The Economist)

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are thousands of documents. Anybody claiming just gossip is full of shit spreading lies and misinformation and doing the US government’s job.

Go Pirate parties!
Anonymous

“Pirate just put a bigger target on their back, not a smart move. We have enough problems fighting the copyright police, we don’t need to help commit treason whether you agree or disagree the documents were Classified that is treason period.”

Well I am sorry but supporting Wikileaks is not treason. On the contrary. The citizen have the right to know what the government officials are doing specially since these guys are less than clean and have the propensity to push forward their own interest instead of the interest of the country.

Do you know who are committing treason?

Those who start a war based on a lie are committing treason. Those who swear on the bible to abide by and protect the constitution then tremple it are committing treason. Those who do the deal of multi-national corporations bank and invetsments companies who could not care less about the country and it’s citizen are committing treason.

Those at the RIAA those at the MPAA those in Black Water those at Aliburton are committing treason.

Those suporting Wikileaks are not traitors but are the true patriots!

Next wikileaks will leaks North Korea, Iran, China, russia stuff.

I am sorry but personally I support wikileaks because I care about my country and it’s citizen. Moreover I do intent to put in prison the real traitors.
Anonymous

My support for any and all PP is without a doubt 100%. However, i think this move isn’t so wise. Simply because it makes our fight seem that much more connected to their fight (Wikileaks). When in reality they are 2 different things.
Colin

@37 Geek

Treason is when someone attacks his own country. For instance an Indian passing Indian military secrets to Pakistan commits treason. But a Malaysian passing Indian military secrets to Pakistan is spying but NOT committing treason. So an Australian releasing US diplomatic cables is not committing treason.

By the way, interesting how file sharing and whistleblowing are converging activities. The US has been caught writing the draconian proposed new ‘Spanish’ anti piracy law.
Quartz

What I find wrong about this whole afair is that some guys rotting in jail and some pretty-boy is out there asking for donations for simply putting text up on a website, it dont cost hundreds or even thousands to run the wikileaks site and now it seems it costs them not a single penny but they still want donations, did the guy in jail ask for donations ?

Nope thats right folks he didnt and that because he wanted to expose corruption and double dealing within the US administration and other nations who they deal with, this he has done so lets not forget the poor guy and turn all our thanks over to a pan handler who feeds the masses dribs and drab of data that they could release all in one hit, tbh thats BS and I cant say I support such self-publicity stunts.

Cheers to pvt Bradley Manning, the real hero.
Alex

Donated my server’s bandwidth. :)
yo

@45 I get what you’re saying. however, these sorts of issues are bringing us together, whether we like it or not. They’ve met paths.

I’m all for this though. The more the merrier!
yo

@45 I get what you’re saying. however, these sorts of issues are bringing us together, whether we like it or not. They’ve met paths.

I’m all for this though. The more the merrier!

@47 wikileaks has been putting out the word about Bradley and they want him out and free. There’s a network behind Bradley actually: http://www.bradleymanning.org/

They take donations for the defense fund :p
jovialau

Get real …Bradley didn`t hand himeself in!!!!!!!!!!
Hong Heets

Outstanding! Way to go WikiLeaks, keep up the good work. Dude deserves a Medal if anything!

real-privacy.edu.tc
Chronos5

It is high time we fought back. Funny how you don’t really hear much about this rather huge battle going on in the main stream media. Might be a good idea to make posters etc and try to make more people aware of just how heated the battle is getting. I think that the more people who are actually aware of it will put even more pressure on the corporate clowns who seem to think they can run rough shod over the people.
Jigsy

Here’s a torrent for the insurance policy for anyone who wants it.

http://bit.ly/cvLv2X
whatsina

3computing.net is hosting a wikileaks mirror in EU
yum

Just wake up and again TF did it… gotta read it!

Is there Double standard here, DDoS politically accepted target it´s bad but USA accept attack against Wikileaks?
Commander Mudkip

I applaud wikileaks for doing its best to bring to light information that these capitalist bastards don’t want us to know.
EliteEliza

Keep leaking / sharing.
EliteEliza

@Quartz: If you had bothered to read even a little bit of Wikileaks, you will find that they are raising money to help defend Manning. They don’t have to, because they will not say whether or not he was the actual leaker.

Manning is suffering and may even be executed, for a crime he may not have committed. Military tribunal anyone?

If you want to help Manning, donate to Wikileaks or even better, the EFF.
Cujo

just noticed that the TPB is gone SSL

cool! ;)
Anonymous

“Manning is suffering and may even be executed”

We have to free Manning using army insiders and take him to a safe location where he can be protected by armed US vet.
Sweden

Usa goverment is behind Ddos attacks against wikileaks. TPB is now SSL use it

https://thepiratebay.org/
Daniel

It’s not only the pirate parties that are in favor of wikileaks. The Austrian Green party is even talking of offering Assange asylum. Here’s a (german) news on it:

http://www.news.at/articles/1048/8/283643/findet-wikileaks-gruender-asyl-pilz-aufnahme-julian-assange
Whatever

Don’t know how much is true that Manning did it to himself but the key thing to remember is don’t brag about it or tell anyone when leaking.

Wanted to type what to watch out for when leaking but cancelled that. Its better not to wake up sleeping secrets. Security by obscurty works for them so it will probably work also against them.
Flying Dutchman

Sarah Palin about wikileaks: Wikileaks owner should be hunted down like Bin Laden. BEWARE Pirate Parties around the world! The USA might label you a terrorist organisation for helping this man and Wikileaks in general.

Btw, If they gonna hunt him down like they hunt on Bin Laden, he should be safe for at least a few decades =D
brenard

DHS = Gestapo, American Style
gold2040

http://i.imgur.com/C35Ty.png
hmm

i agree with @41 pete pirate parties stick with what your doing screw wikileaks they have stepped over the line ya sure theres things we need to no but some things are best kept quite
Anonymous

This is good that it is mirrored. I have went to wikileaks many times and when I wanted to see documents, they were removed. Used to the blacklist from the governments like Australia and other places but wikileaks removed them. The question now is though now which stuff will be mirrored? Will the stuff that wikileaks took down be mirrored too or just stuff from now on will be mirrored? Put back all the stuff that the original wikileaks removed!!
Flying Dutchman

Don’t forget to vote Julian Assange for times person of the year 2010!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2028734,00.html

First name on the list! VOTE!
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Lxrkan

Maybe the reason they ar not going after the domain is simply because they wanted to avoid wikileak from “scattering”.

They wanted to keep it in one place so they could try take it down from the roots…

If you get what I mean ;)
but aanyway it’s to late now xD

Could anyone link me to some articles about the technology being used by wikileaks as mentioned above . Thanks in advance to those who answer! :)
7th PIRATE LORD

The World wii still look up to us to Wikileaks to lead and what will they see will they see scared men and trembling faces NO! They willsee FREE MEN and FREEDOM and what the enemy(Those against us) will see is the strength of our union and the migth of our SERVERS and they will know what we can do… gentlemen HOIST THE COLORS
7th PIRATE LORD

The World will still look up to us to Wikileaks to lead and what will they see will they see scared men and trembling faces NO! They willsee FREE MEN and FREEDOM and what the enemy(Those against us) will see is the strength of our union and the migth of our SERVERS and they will know what we can do… gentlemen HOIST THE COLORS
Anonymous

FVCK ILLUMINATI
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Quartz

@65 (EliteEliza)

You seem to have missed the point I was making, why is evryone falling over themselves to congratulate some self publicising web host when the real hero is in jail, try reading what I wrote and then try comprehending it.
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Anonymous

I think it is good the pirate parties stepped in. They are political, people need to see that they stand by freedom of information and an open internet. Get media attention to get voters to make our voice heard. They have my vote! My time, my bots, my server and my sword.
Capn Barbosa

@7th Pirate Lord:
Ahoy mate hoist the colors
Pirateer

@82

AND MY AXE!
Anonymous

“Don’t know how much is true that Manning did it to himself but the key thing to remember is don’t brag about it or tell anyone when leaking.”

That might well be a good advice however Manning is an hero and a patriot serving his country the best he can. He will be vindicated and History will remember that.
Boycott paypal

Please join The Pirate Bay in boycotting paypal.

http://thepiratebay.org/blog/185
s2pid

Hey.

Major clusterfark in progress. The Pirate Party aligned with wikileaks makes for a better sequel to Pirates Of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides tame.
ndmushroom

Am I the only one to think the leaked cable deserves a separate article on its own, since this will mean even more publicity, which is something we need in order to make an impact on the Spaniards’ final decision?
Pocket

we help to Wikileaks website, that the U.S. government really be public. Enough of lies!
Anonymous

assange is a hero. any attempts to try and make him out as any thing other is disgraceful.
Anonymous

Does anyone know who it was that opened the DDoS flood on Wikileaks? Tweet it to me #OperationHitler
We are anonymous
We are legion
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect us
Zain

Anonymous is taking revenge for wikileaks. Come help us dish out sweet justice and support a true hero.

irc.anonops.net
Me

There IS something fishy about all this.

How could all this information come from a single source? There are meeting minutes from Bilderberg, diplomatic cables, apparently stuff on banks, reams of stuff. All from one source? This stuff covers a lot of ground. Surely there can’t be a one stop shop for intel somewhere. It would make sense if the data covered a certain aspect, say the bank stuff, but to have so much stuff from so many different topics? It seems a little odd that all this info would be just laying around somewhere all neatly packaged, waiting for someone to just pick up. It just doesn’t add up. Either someone failed miserably in their security practices and was for some unknown reason accumulating this stuff, or it was meant to leak. I suppose there could be other reasons, but I don’t know the particulars about how this all went down. Just seems strange to me.
Chronos5

Could someone do me a favor and cut and paste this for me on yahoo? They don’t seem to want to let me post anything there, guess they didn’t ‘approve’ of my previous posts.

Here’s the post:

To my fellow Americans,

Please think about this WHOLE situation. Before you rupture a spleen in venomous anger, at least take an OBJECTIVE calm look at all the information. Read the posts I have seen for people calling to hang the guy BEFORE he is even convicted. I seem to recall something in our laws that said, “Innocent until proven guilty.” While he may not be an American, doesn’t it behoove us to at least extend the courtesy to him to show that, yes, even though our leaders have taken the wrong path, we, the people, still ADHERE to the principles set forth by our founding fathers?

Lets put this into perspective. It’s now 1775, those criminals of the English crown, the colonists, have decided that they are tired of the back breaking taxes, of not having representation in the government, of having no say what so ever in how things are done. The trading houses exert enormous amounts of influence. The colonists finally said, “Enough is enough”. They got off their butts and DID something about it. We used to have that kind of spirit, the spirit of freedom. What happened to us?

I think that the people who have lived here all their lives just take freedom for granted. People who have escaped totalitarian regimes and now live here, have a better appreciation for the freedoms we have.

The problem is, our government is no longer representing the people it is supposed to represent. This is real people. It is not a game. We are truly losing our freedom, it’s not some kind of vague idea, it’s happening. The time may come where we won’t be able to take it back, it may already be too late. At the very least, at least accept the realities that are right in front of your face.

I am not in favor of exposing info that endangers American lives, or anyone elses lives for that matter. That being said, I also don’t favor elite families and organizations that exploit their positions for the enhancement of their own wealth and power.

The damage the wikileaks has caused is open to debate, the implications of some of the data is not.

Will you, as an American, support and defend the CONSTITUTION of the united states?

Or will you shut your mind and your eyes and hope it all just goes away as they shut the gates on the freedom that every American soldier fought for and in many cases died for?

Topic is on this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101208/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks
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Unfortunately, “the people” don’t want “the truth”. They’re only interested in the “american dream”. There seems to always be a balance of those who are awake and those fast asleep (who have no intention of awakening). The question is were will the scale tip in the coming days? Is the tipping point more people waking up? Or more buying into delusion? I don’t know. All I know is where I stand. It appears that more are awakening…
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