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RapidShare Overtures Snubbed, “Must Do Better” Say Labels

This week, file-hosting service RapidShare published an anti-piracy manifesto with guidelines on how cyberlocker and cloud hosting sites should conduct their business going forward. But the proposals from the Swiss-based service, which go far beyond their requirements under the law, received a lukewarm reception from rightsholders who say they don’t go far enough. RapidShare believes that they do, and that rightsholders should focus on sites that deliberately generate revenue from infringement.

Since the unexpected shutdown of Megaupload in January there has been significant realignment in the cyberlocker market, with many sites changing their business models and some pulling out of the business altogether.

For RapidShare, one of the market leaders, taking either of these actions wasn’t an option. The company has long insisted that it does business legally and has been trying extra hard in recent times to tackle infringement. Its scale means that closing down was never on the cards.

What RapidShare has been doing for some time now is promoting itself as a good digital citizen prepared to go that extra mile. A company appreciative of copyright holders’ needs but one that balances those requirements against subscribers’ rights.

This week RapidShare went even further when it published an anti-piracy manifesto containing guidelines on how responsible cyberlocker and cloud hosting sites should conduct their business going forward.

“RapidShare continues to work with all parties and wants to serve as an industry ‘best practices’ leader in accountability and transparency,” RapidShare CEO Alexandra Zwingli told TorrentFreak.

But while RapidShare’s proposals go far beyond file-hosting services’ responsibilities under the law, the response from rightsholders has been tepid at best.

In a comment to CNET a spokesman for the top four record companies made it clear that although RapidShare’s overtures represent a “commendable step forward”, the company will have to go even further if it is to meet the standards required by the labels.

“Unfortunately the new measures announced fall short if the goal is indeed to meaningfully and effectively reduce the massive amount of copyright theft occurring on [RapidShare's] service,” the unnamed spokesman added.

When comparing these comments and a statement given to us by RapidShare CEO Alexandra Zwingli, there is clearly a mismatch between the RIAA’s assessments and those of the Swiss-based file-hoster.

“Contrary to unverified ‘studies,’ RapidShare believes that by any practical measure, online piracy on its servers is very small,” says Zwingli. “Nevertheless, RapidShare has committed nearly one-third of its staff to policing and responding seven days a week to copyright infringement. DMCA take-down notices are instituted within one hour during regular business hours.”

But despite their efforts on takedowns (1 hour response is very impressive indeed), the RIAA still has issues and it’s interesting where their spokesman draws a line in the sand. The implication is that on one side are sites that provide personal storage lockers where users place their own files for their own use. On the other are sites that allow users to upload files for sharing with anyone online.

“RapidShare allows unlimited distribution of copyrighted files among millions of anonymous strangers without taking adequate steps to prevent this illegal activity,” the labels’ spokesman added.

Perhaps not surprisingly, RapidShare believes the measure of a responsible hosting site lies elsewhere.

“RapidShare fully agrees that the file hosting marketplace provides opportunities for providers and seekers of copyright protected files,” Zwingli told TorrentFreak.

“However, RapidShare believes that a distinction must be made between legitimate companies providing above-board services to users, the vast majority of which are engaged in lawful activity, from illegitimate entities for whom revenue is linked to the purveyance of illegal, copyright infringing activity.

“Unlike other file hosting sites, RapidShare maintains no incentive programs whatsoever, the likes of which reward users for the number of times their files are downloaded. The RIAA and Policymakers need to create distinctions between those companies, such as RapidShare, that are cracking down on abuse and ‘shadow actors’ that tacitly encourage copyright infringement.

“RapidShare welcomes an open dialogue with the RIAA as RapidShare believes they share goals to combat piracy and foster technology,” Zwingli concludes.

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  • Anyone

    hopefully now they learn that you don’t give into bullies

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ICV7MGUARTTYBMX7SMWGAUZM3Q Eloise

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    • ANoi

      +1
      Rapidshare are stupid if they don’t learn from this.
      Doesn’t matter how far they move…….it won’t be far enough.

      Overall it doesn’t really matter …..  Rapid$hit sold out a long time ago.

      Copyright policing more important than …. users privacy and files

      • http://www.alexseo.se/ Alexander Edbom

        Rapidshare is one of the worst uploading services. Last time I used it, I had to wait a few hours before I could upload anything as a free user.

        So I started to use megaupload instead and look at it now :/ I bet Rapidshare paid MPAA to shut down Megaupload as it was a much better service.

      • Yulya

         ”“Unlike other file hosting sites, RapidShare maintains no incentive
        programs whatsoever, the likes of which reward users for the number of
        times their files are downloaded. The RIAA and Policymakers need to
        create distinctions between those companies, such as RapidShare, that
        are cracking down on abuse and ‘shadow actors’ that tacitly encourage
        copyright infringement.”

        In other words ‘ we got huge trafficking pirated files and was even kiddyland for a long time till we got on the us of a and mafiaa’s hit list. Since then we have implemented policies overnight to cover our ass and also kisseed usof a’s ass and mafiaa. We let you destroy our business basically, , we used to have 15% of total internet traffic on ourservers, but since we came down hard, we lost most of our business apirates dont want to use us because we suck mafiaas ass, dick, and lick their juices. We let u fuck us and now u dont know where to stop, as we went far beyond whats recomended by law. Well At least we got rich before we die, self inflicted suicide.

    • ItsMrBiG

      Exactly. When you deal with the devil…

    • Anonymous

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      • Guest

         DIE SPAM

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  • Troy

     Rapidshare are craven cowards and they still get targeted, lets face it until we all just open our wallets and give the mpaa every dollar we have left they won’t leave the internet or any filelocker alone.

    • Anonymous

       What makes you think that would be enough for them? If they were King of the world with 100 % taxes on everything, they would still go on…

      • asdf

         This is their business after all – going after alleged pirates for money.

    • Guest

      Has anyone else noticed that since Game of Thrones came out, more people have been using the word craven? Is that a thing, or am I just noticing people who use it more?

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

         Kraven the Hunter is offended by your implications.

  • Mental Extension

    “..rightsholders should focus on sites that deliberately generate revenue from infringement.”

    Like… RapidShare?

    • Anonymous

       Then what do YOU prose RS do? Already 1/3 of their staff is occupied fighting piracy. The MPAA is by any standards unreasonable.

      • 2354235235W

         stop allowing sharing like filesonic, fileserve, filejungle, and wupload did
        which will be very ironic since their name is Rapid SHARE

  • Andrew Lee

    It’s funny RS could think anything they have done would ever please copyright trolls. You know they’re called copyright trolls for a reason that’s pretty obvious looking to me at least just by the wording of it. Why in gods name would they want to end free legal extortion?

    Tons of money with little work required!!
    I could do it myself produce a piece of shit movie song ect who cares! Once it gets downloaded I will sue them people to make my real profits.

    Whats wrong with this? Well first off I’m not an actor or a singer O_o Second the only reason of me doing it would to be for the soul purpose of sending out massive threats to bank a good deal of money without ever having to set foot in a courthouse.

    • Bloaxor

       And third, it’s fucking morale as hard as humanly possible.

      • Asdf

         Fuck my morals harder, they love taking it in the ass.

  • 7seven85

    Give me toilet paper with MPAA, RIAA and … Rapidshare logos on it , and I will enjoy to clean my ass with it.

    • Mazik90

      You will get a nasty ass-infection from that

  • Anonymous

    Well maybe one day RapidShare will learn that no matter how much you give them it will never be enough until your business is shut down or they own your company.

    I mean look at YouTube with its advanced Content ID filtering system which works better than all others. Now they have been dragged through the court system and forced to implement a retarded keyword filter that will only cause serious damage to their operation.

    There is only one answer and that is to tell them that your company follows the law and they can “piss off”. If they are then still aggressive you then have to fight them in the law system which is where you would end up anyway.

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        • Anyone

          50GB would run out pretty fast

        • Andrew Lee

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        • Anyone

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    • Lord of the Files

       ”Well maybe one day RapidShare will learn that no matter how much you
      give them it will never be enough until your business is shut down or
      they own your company.”

      Perhaps this was the goal though? To gain more evidence showing how your statement is exactly true, that the copyright industry isn’t interested in adapting at all and is only interested in destroying legitimate businesses they believe are a threat to their outdated business model. Some day the file lockers will be able to  say to the court, “Do you see their true intentions now? Do you see the connection?” and point to the public record as proof. Getting them to slip up enough times may very well be a brilliantly shrewd legal strategy… or wishful thinking on my part lol.

  • Me

    The idiots from RapidShare wrote that stupid manifesto, committing to do much more than required by the law. Now RIAA owns them. Scare tactics 101. 

  • Anonymous

    Giving the RIAA what they want won’t make them shut up. They always have and always will demand more and more, no matter what. It’s their business model; it’s who they are and what they do.

  • Anonymous

    serves Rapidshare’s right. did they expect to get a ‘pat on the back’ from the industries? that wont ever happen! it will never do enough, nor will any other site to please those industries even though they are going far beyond what the law says. in actual fact, the industries then use the willingness of what idiots like Rapidshare are prepared to do to force others to do the same. until the entertainment industries have everything on and off the ‘net under their exclusive control, they are going to continue complaining about their supposed losses, and what every other site, company and person should be doing to protect their failed business model whilst refusing to do anything at all to help themselves! until there is a consolidated effort from all sites that use the Internet and fight these selfish arse holes as one, each separate endeavor is doomed to fail and is then used against the next more sucker that gets targeted! for Christ’s sake, wise up!

  • Cavelord

    RIAA’s manifesto for Rapidshare contains a legal document with these words:  Close down ad infinitum. 

    This would satisfy them.

  • Andycapp

    I think the question has been wrong for a long time , we have been asking what the courts/ISP’s and other services like Rapidshare can do to stop piracy, when the question should have been what is the movie industry going to do to stop piracy. They are blaming everyone else for there problem , a problem that they created , they need to come up with a solution very soon or start paying for companies like Rapidshare to remove there movies from there servers. I know i would not be happy if i was Rapidshare, having a very successful business model and using most of there infrastructure for silly movies and music files. Take them to court Rapidshare , demand that they compensate you for there inability to fix the problem that is causing you money.
    And while we are at it maybe the actors and cleaners and corn farmers that are losing money need to take the RIAA to court, They have had years to find a solution to the problem of people sharing copywrong material, why have they not done anything that has even slowed it down, they have actually made it worse.
    Lets change the question and start asking the questions that needs to be answered. .

  • Mwhahaha

    Labels should be putting time and money into investigating new distribution methods rather than wasting everyone’s time with all this bunkum.

    They should also not be quite so fecking obsessed with wringing every last penny out of their content but look to see how they can improve people’s lives and the world as a whole.

    I’m not sure about anyone else but I’m beginning to suspect that money might not be the be all and end all of life….

    • No1_2_u

      WOW!
      You
      just started figuring this out for yourself; you must be VERY slow indeed…You
      need to go to your local hospital & ask to be sterilized so you do not pollute
      the gene pool; we have enough idiots on Earth as it is.

      • Guest

         *facepalm*

        Have you ever heard of sarcasm? No? Didn’t think so.

        Really funny when YOU are talking about idiots polluting the gene pool. People in glass houses, my friend.

        • No1_2_u

          First, I do not know you;
          therefore, & I am not your “friend”.

          Second, “I’m
          not sure about anyone else but I’m beginning to suspect…”

          Opinion: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/opinion

          1. Judgment or belief not founded on certainty or proof

          2. The prevailing or popular feeling or view public opinion

          3. Evaluation, impression, or estimation of the value or worth of a person
          or thing

          Sarcasm: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

          1. Harsh or bitter derision or irony.

          2. A sharply ironical taunt; sneering
          or cutting remark

           

          Before
          correcting someone, you should know what you are talking about; “people living
          in glass houses” indeed…

           

          Have a
          nice day…J

    • Guest

      ” new distribution methods”

      Distribution as a business in the classic sense is dying/dead. Nobody needs a publisher anymore when you can simply put your files on the internet. We don’t need someone to produce physical media, pack them, ship them, distribute to brick and mortar stores you have deals with… that’s what worries them so much. It’s like the coachmen union fighting the car.

  • Geheim

    Reading this article, and the previous one, about the proposed measure of RS and the response to it from the entertainment industry, I get a feeling of deja-vu.
    In the ’30 of the previous century, in germany persons and compagnies had to be “good Germans”  and tow the line, of they would be persecuted. To the outside world Germany was demanding more and more. Time and again the demands would be increased, and every time they got their way. ( To easure ‘Preace in Our Time” )

    When will the world say: Enough is enough to the Entertainment Industry, and their lackey’s in the US Government/Houses of Congress?
    Both are behaving more and more as Nazi’s.

    Or should we be comparing them to the Roman Empire with its Pax Romanum?
    What will it become: Pax America or Pax Entertainment?

    • Asdf

      Pax all of your money is mine and you can’t have any of it. Also I command the Internet.

  • Anonymous

    The very first words that come into the mouths of Copyright supporters when their backs are against the wall is that theirs is the “LEGAL” framework governing the social custody and management of Intellectual property.  

    What’s most important about MegaUpload, RapidShare; and any and ALL of the alternative IP distribution channells that the Copyright corporate establishment is so desperate to extinguish, is that collectively they are creating the FACT of a REAL and KNOWN and ENDURING Public Domain for the benefit of ALL citizens.  

    Two questions and one conclusion: 

    Question #1: Can this FACT of an expanded Public Domain be squared with the national security fears which explain the existing harsh government response?

    Question #2: What should define the proper limits of repression under Democratic government? 

    Conclusion: The social value of an expanded Public Domain in Intellectual Property lies precisely in that it is NOT a THREAT to National Security. Quite the contrary, a vastly distributed Public Domain in Intellectual Property is the BEST guarantee of national cohesion, rule of law, tecnological and economic prosperity, political transparancy, global peace, AND National Security. The REAL threat to state Security lies elsewhere, in the blind and reflexive tendency of government to protect KNOWN and preferred corporate counterparties at grave cost to civil liberties.. Perhaps the real National Security poriority of the state lies in hearing the complaints of citizens in respect to copyright law. 

    After all, MegaUpload and RapidShare; as well as the millions of their customers who defy daiily existing monopoly custody and control over Intellectual Property) tell us very articulately that what they want most is sane and equitable Copyright Laws. The national urgency for change to current Copyright Law is NOT a problem for national security. It is the essence of national security.  

    ?

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Like me and lots of ppl said in the past – “rapidshare is trash and dumb company that don’t understand no amtter how much they bend over, labels will never satisfied”. And look what we have here. Just sayin

  • Freeswissgirl

    rapidshare are cocksuckers. they shame our free country.

  • 2354235235W

    rapidshare is going too far with their crap and they are getting too worried.
    They are a completely legal company and their servers are in Germany and Switzerland.
    they are not doing any money laundering or paying people for illegal files.
    They should be fine with the current policies that they had before.

  • MPAA Sucks

    They’re afraid that what happened to Kimble will happen to them.  People need to stand up to the MPAA and the RIAA and everyone else that claims they’re losing money to these sites and just say, “STHU”.

  • Gae

    HAHAHA RS actually thought that would work out?
    No matter what they do it can not and will not ever be enough to please them. They could offer to give 100% of profits to artists and filmmakers and they would still say that is not enough.

    If ever anybody wanted proof that all they want is control of the internet and its users then this must be it.

  • No1_2_u

    …In
    a comment
    to CNET a spokesman for the top four record companies made it clear that
    although RapidShare’s overtures represent a “commendable step forward”, the
    company will have to go even further if it is to meet the standards required by
    the labels…

    In
    other words, pull down your pants & bend over so we may service you, our customers;
    that is what the MAFIAA wants from us!

    Well
    I say, FUCK THE MAFIAA, FUCK THE U.S. government Hollywood lackeys, & fuck
    anybody else, IN THE ASS WITH A CACTUS, who tries to control me in how I should
    obtain their products!

  • Guest

    most of you seem to forget how much it sucks to work for other people…

    They are just saving their multimillion dollar business 

  • Gear Mentation

    I have a question for anyone who knows: isn’t there any possible way to create a cyberlocker which is encrypted in such a way that only the person who owns the cyberlocker account can see it, or particular friends which they choose?  Wouldn’t that both foil the copyright trolls, and files would only have to be taken down where there was a leak and the trolls knew a copyrighted file was being shared?  Wouldn’t that be in the interests of both users and the cyberlocker, which would not have to respond to so many takedown notices?  Maybe I just don’t know how it’s already done, and haven’t looked around much.  But it seems like it isn’t worth their while to sell out to the trolls, they should look into resisting them through some technology.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      They already have that. You can upload your files with obfuscated filenames and passworded/encrypted already.

      The problem is when you put that thing out there for people to share, someone INEVITABLY is going to be a ‘moral-fag’ and report the thing in question or be someone working for the RIAA/MPAA and report the thing in question.

      • Gear Mentation

        I see, thanks (:  That’s why I don’t understand darknets.  Well, they will lose one way or another. 

    • Guest

      But what about people who just want to share their files with the world? Creators of open source projects, independent artists who want to make their work available, people who make approved mods for games? Why would we forbid them from sharing their own work with the world, just to protect the business model (artificial scarcity) of another industry?

    • Ezra

      1) encrypt with truecrypt (free, w AES+Blowfish)
      2) Upload files as *SOME RANDOM NUMBER CODE*

      Pass the key around privately by smoke signals… more more securely, by carrier pidgeons. Ravens work better if you’re sharing Game of Thrones.

    • Gae

      With that you imply that it is not a legitimate action for a person to share files across the internet with other people. I do not see why somebody should not be allowed to offer a service whereby you can allow anybody to download your files…. that’s pretty much how the internet works right?

  • Aoljunkie

    I didn’t see any counter proposal by the labels saying in detail how Rapidshare is supposed to conduct business regarding copyright infringement. It seems to me, and maybe I’m mistaken, that the labels want unfettered access to these files to delete, sue the uploader, sue Rapidshare, etc. Saying a business is acting irresponsibly is fine, however the counter should include ways on which to improve, a step the labels have left out. A step I believe was done on purpose.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      No, saying that they are ‘acting irresponsibly’ is not fine when they are adhering to the letter of the law and the DMCA protections.
      To say otherwise is to slander these companies.

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  • townie2

    so called “copyright holders” won’t be satisfied until the whole internet is shut down, period.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Pretty much from what I have been reading. It’s past time that the people of the world put the boot in the MAFIAA’s face and gave them a LITERAL beatdown.

  • Guest

    We knew this was going to happen. MAFIAAs always want more.

  • Again With the Slander

    Could the RIAA, or anyone for that matter, please point me to the passages in U.S. law that define copyright infringement as “copyright theft”? If not, the repeated use of this term in media interviews and press releases should be considered libel and therefore actionable. RapidShare should sue.

    • Guest

       Your looking in the wrong place.  Those passages aren’t written on paper or electronic files but, like too many “laws” in the U.S, on the backs of dollar bills.

  • Guest

    Ever since the first story about Rapidshare’s manifesto, did any out there NOT see this coming?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller?  Bueller?

    Now please excuse me while I laugh loud enough to scare my pet for about 10 minutes straight.

  • Scooter

    fuck you and die rs

  • Guest

    MegaUpload may come back once this whole thing is finished blowing up in the US Government’s face–and once Obama’s reelection bid fails so that Kim is no longer as valuable as a bargaining chip with Hollywood.

    But Rapidshare is now completely and utterly a dead company walking.  Don’t know how long it will take them to bleed out, but they’re never coming back.
     

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      You joking? I hate to tell you, but with the current crop of Rethuglican LOSERS, Obama is the only SANE choice for America.

      Sure, it’s the choice between the lesser of two evils, but Obama is BY FAR (miles) the lesser of the evils here.

      • Guest

         At this point, politics in American has become Aliens vs. Predator.  Whoever wins, we (the people) lose.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed, even if i don’t agree with some of obama’s policies he’s still far better than any of the bush clones that would get elected.

  • Asdf

    “Nevertheless, RapidShare has committed nearly one-third of its staff to
    policing and responding seven days a week to copyright infringement.
    DMCA take-down notices are instituted within one hour during regular
    business hours.” 

    Seriously? They commited 1/3 of their staff to see that the greed of the IP monopoly is looked after? And they call themselves a honest and fair company?

    • Guest

       Still more honest than the U.S. Government.  They committed all of their staff.

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  • Anony

    Nothing will EVER be good enough for RIAA until they shut down like Megaupload (involuntarily), Fileserve and Filesonic (voluntarily for both). That’s all they’re out to do and want people to do.

    That being said…I think people should move to services like MegaCloud.com

  • Anon

     Rapidshare go the extra mile, isolating & losing a lot of their users, for the copyright holders – and the copyright holders still tell them they’re not doing their job.  I think it’s obvious that the copyright holders don’t give a damn about ‘working with’ cyberlockers, and just want the businesses removed from the pages of history altogether.

  • Desu75

    RS made this bed. Now sleep in it. Enjoy being their bitch. 

  • djc

     Actually it is the labels that ” Must do better”. Its obvious that their antiquated business model does not work anymore. Alienating your customer base really doesn’t help either.

  • Anonymous

    “If the prevention of 95% of the copyright infringements is not enough, then this is a war on file sharing technology”
    -Lawrence Lessig.

  • PaRaDoX

    Offtopic
    Since the megaupload debacle links to most files everywhere have been taken down by the cyberlockers.Apart from torrent sites there is no way for the old content to be downloaded.Earlier it was cyberlockers who retained the old files.Really hope MEGA comes back quickly.

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  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    If “I were” RapidShare, I’d give them the finger and say: “F U MAFIAA, unlimited download for all. Now come at me bro!”, then shut down all anti-piracy measures. They (RS) already bent over for the MAFIAA, gave them a helping hand, and they took their arms right out of their sockets. And even this is not enough. When will RS realize, that no matter what they do, the only thing the MAFIAA would accept if they closed down completely?

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