Torrage: World’s First Torrent Storage Service

Ernesto
August 6, 2009
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This week the world’s first torrent hosting service was born. Named Torrage, the sole purpose of the site is to provide a platform where both individual users and large torrent indexers can host their torrents. It is currently in use by EZTV as well as the former BitTorrent giant Suprnova and the makers hope that others will follow.

torrage A few weeks ago the Pirate Bay crew hinted that ‘others’ were working on a new torrent hosting service that will host torrents for other torrent sites, without providing a search function.

Together with open tracker initiatives like OpenBitTorrent, torrent storage services such as Torrage could provide the building blocks for many new torrent index sites. This week the idea became reality with the launch of Torrage, which is already in use by some of BitTorrent’s most reputable sources.

The site, which also allows individual users to store torrents online, is hosting hundreds of thousands of torrents already. It is currently in use by Suprnova and the new and improved EZTV site. To get started, Torrage has an API and some example code available for torrent sites owners.

Once the torrent files are uploaded they can be accessed through a url that is based on the info_hash value of the torrent. “You can not search or list torrent files that are stored here, you can only access them if you already know the info_hash value of the torrent you want to download,” the Torrage site explains.

TorrentFreak spoke to several torrent site owners who all agreed that it is a welcome addition to the range of tools they have available now, and we can expect to see more sites with Torrage powered download links in the near future.

Without having to operate a tracker and store the .torrent files, maintaining a torrent site will be less complicated and much cheaper. This aside, some might argue that this decentralized setup will reduce the legal liability for site owners since their part in the BitTorrent chain has been significantly reduced.

Whether the various copyright holders and anti-piracy watchdogs such as BREIN, IFPI and the MPAA will agree with this assessment remains to be seen. Regardless of what they think, Torrage is a service that has the potential to help out many torrent sites, old and new.

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Viking

This seems like a good project! :)
Reasoned Mind

Technically brilliant, but if this is used to facilitate infringement, or break any other law for that matter, it’ll never last.
Nick

If many torrent sites use this wouldn’t it become a single point of failure?

- http://www.torrentroot.com
deadmanamerican

sounds good,if a little confusing…gonna check it out
Anonymous

I agree with Nick there — making things centralized can be convenient, but if that central system fails/disappears, things get ugly.
Kawk

I like this, but couldn’t this be pretty much compared to ed2k links? Meaning that ‘making easily available’ is the thing the cartels will go after.
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Yours Truly

Technically brilliant, hopefully this will allow people to decentralize more effectively, and progress forward with file sharing. Progression towards more freedom for third world children, adolescents, and adults who work as slave labor to provide America (my country) with cheap goods, so that they may enjoy free entertainment after a hard day of being bullied, malnourished, and worked to the point of exhaustion.
Also may law enforcement put more effort into capturing serial killers, rapists, and child predators than sitting in on meetings with entertainment industry professionals on how best to maneuver against file-sharers.
Anonymous

they should mirror their file system with other file servers around the world like TOR does. Then there won’t be a single point of failure.
DraGonflY_27z

This is great! Now torrents won’t be stored on the indexing websites!
Not to mention the legal advantage: the MAFIAA won’t be able to complain that they store and distribute the .torrent files.
Now, every website will need several of those if one ever goes offline.

This brings more decentralization and it won’t change anything for the end-user! It’s totally transparent!
lHeard

The technical details are not known to us but maybe they have servers around the planet using p2p to serve up torrents based on the hash. That enables hundreds/thousands of nodes to serve torrents. If one goes the others fill in.

Pass a hash to the api and the api finds a live node and retrieves the torrent?

Would be a good way to distribute torrents with built in resilience.

Just guess work on my part.
Anonymous

I envisage torrage links spreading like wildfire by email and finding their way into personal blogs, which will then be indexed/cached by google. Everybody in the system will be able to claim they do not know where the content originated from or what it is. Pretty ingenious…
ROFLOLWTF

Would not a better idea be to move to completely decentralize bittorrent. If all applications had a process similar to the magnet links in Vuze, then no one would need to host .torrent files as the torrent information is downloaded from the swarm. Add to that the ability to search the swarm itself and you’d rarely need to visit a site.

That said, that process sounds alot like edonkey, which is still going strong and is older than bittorrent, so maybe it aint such a bad idea. The problem I see is sites would be reduced to little more than “review” communities or RLSLog type sites, and I don’t see many wanting to be that type of site.
http://torrentfreak.com Ernesto

@Nick Good point, it will. So let’s hope they are pepared.
Joe

I’m bored right now, so here’s my thoughts:

a hundred bucks says once sites start actually using torrage they’ll start charging something or putting up ads.

If an average torrent file is 100KB, times that by 500,000 torrents = 47GB.

Lets say these torrents are downloaded twice a day, well that is 100GB bandwidth a day conservatively speaking.

No doubt these guys do not have load balancers or optimized software, so guarantee server downtimes and crashes.

If they bought a server with a 10mb/s port unmetered, well try downloading 47gb a day off a 10mb/s line, not going to happen!

It’s a great idea, but it’s not going to work out without money to invest. Why do you think isohunt for example has banners and accepts donations? search TF for the behind the scenes and their many thousands of dollas server setup, plus around 5k a month rackspace!

Now, imagine torrage with 2 or 5 million downloads a day, 10TB of bandwidth a month, guarantee the site would be shut down lol.

Hashes using base64 encode? LoL
Phoenix

interesting !
lHeard

@13 – Joe

Let’s hope you find something to do tomorrow :-)
Dan

Nice, looks as though this will be pretty useful – but yeah, it will get picked on somehow by someone for copyright infringement as more sites start using it, though seeing as you can’t even search for torrents with it… Yet again, harder to pin anything on anyone. We will see – but so far I like it :]
Em

“Now torrents won’t be stored on the indexing websites!”

No, kid… that’s not how it’s done.

See, it’s just another mirror of the torrent, and it’s definitely not the only source. If a dev chooses to work the way you ant’ it will happen as Nick pointed out.

Eztv uses caches from bt-chat, mininova and zoikit, and if those were to fail, torrage is there to save the day… most of the time since not all shows are hosted on torrage.
theorycraft

Can’t a system like this be cloud hosted by the p2p community itself? I think this is where #9 was going…

I mean that all Torrage could do is be a tracker for torrents of torrents (and a seed of last resort) and their API would work as it does now.

I mean there has to be a decent way of making a completely distributed/decentralized system where once you find a point of entry, you have access to the whole cloud.
josh

The only issue I’ve seen on decentralised p2p systems is the speed of searching and you’re not guaranteed to find all the available content on the network.

Also most “decentralised” systems usually have at least one central point somewhere. For example, when you download BearShare/etc it comes with a list of IPs of peers so you can actually get connected the first time.

I think since the downfall of TPB people have been innovative in their ideas and maybe we’ll get a fast, anonymous and efficient new p2p protocol (or even modification to BitTorrrent) soon enough.
TheSpark

@Reasoned Mind

Not true, Google, yahoo, MSN Live (Bing whatever) all facilitate copyright infringement on a mass scale daily … and have been doing so since their conceptions. Are they going anywhere?

Besides, it doesn’t matter. If Torrage becomes popular it will have its typical lifespan of a few years before something else takes over. That’s what makes piracy so great, we can easily merge to new services, networks, and providers to facilitate our fundamental right to have free digital information.

“Piracy” FTW!
#YLS#

@Nick #3 and others

It depends this site is a good idea.. but what should be done is we decentralise again maybe… creating our own mirror sites and because the torrents use a hash value it’d be quite easy to calculate all your own uploads and backup and put them in if they fail etc…

Or so I see it… maybe I’m wrong?
Gargamel

yah, great fuking idea. Lets basically make a central server that stores all the copyrighted material & make it so the MAFIAA just has to shut down Torrage boxes and entire sites go down.

No doubt they are laughing at us like the Fools that thought up this crap.
TheSpark

@Gargamel

The thing is, if we could get like oh say 5-10 sites like this going and more starting up all the time, and other sites automatically upload all torrents uploaded through them to like every single one … we have a really good system with high redundancy. In the time it would take to knock even just one offline, 2-3 others would come to life.
djnforce9

@Reasoned Mind: That would really depend on the country it’s hosted in and their current laws. Also, unlike say thepiratebay.org, I assume this site will not have its own tracker (so maybe far less legal ramifications that way). I think we both know that torrents that lead to downloading infringing works will pop up left, right, and center just like every torrent site (aside from the ones dedicated to legal/free stuff only).

On a separate note (and speaking of thepiratebay.org), this will surely be an opportune time for someone to mirror all thepiratebay.org’s torrents right then and there (while changing the trackers to point to tracker.openbittorrent.com)
TheSpark

@djnforce9

Don’t really need to change any trackers. All TPB torrents now have openbittorrent tracker included.
Hajk

btghost have been around for some year now. So torrage ain’t the first
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.neo.styles|nvDX

I took a quick look at their legal section and it seems like ignorance is bliss. Looking the other way and going “Well, I dunno lol” is not a valid excuses.

The first one is a great example :
“We DO NOT have or track any information about what type of content the torrents point to.”
In other words, “we’re not paying attention, so that makes it okay.” Its their legal responsibility to make sure that people are not using their service illegally. If they are deliberately neglecting what kind of torrents people give them, it could be viewed as willful infrignement. With services like this who walk a fine line between legal and illegal, the “legal FAQ” is often used to provide excuses when they know that what they will be doing will ultimately be illegal.

In this day and age, they should know all the more better that pirates will abuse their service for illegal purposes, and that means thet must be all the more vigilant to prevent their service from being used in such a way. Casual neglect is not a good way to moderate your service.
Glenn

Great! That api makes it so much easier for normal people to run torrent sites..

Shutting down torrage ain’t gonna happen.. As they do not know what files they are hosting, shutting them down is going to be hard for copyright groups..
Sergey Simonenko, PetrLUG

Do they provide source code so users would be able to setup as many Torrages as OpenBitTorrents?
Z.M

Decentralization for the fucking win.

For now.
Max

This would work well if all the trackers/torrent hosts/search engines synced up with each other.

We could have about ten servers in different countries and taking one down wouldn’t stop a thing…
lastbastard

The registrant name of Suprnova.org is Tiamo, one of The Pirate Bay guys.

The registrant of Torrage.com is the same that Openbittorrent.com, and Openbittorrent tracker is The Pirate Bay tracker (same IP).

So Suprnova + Torrage + Openbittorrent = The Pirate Bay

TPB crew is following their own agenda as planned.

People that cry “sellouts” are plain stupid (or may be well paid trolls).
jamie

@30

Yes they do. You can find the link at their homepage; visit http://torrage.com/ and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Also would it not be wise of the management of the torrage website to implement their torrent caching service on Tor: Hidden Service Protocol. More details: http://www.torproject.org/hidden-services.html.en
Uzza

@djnforce9

I’ve sent this to TorrentFreak a little mote than week, but they haven’t checked it yet.

I’ve made an application that can mirror the entire list of torrents that’s available on TPB. Currently it only downloads the .torrent files, but it probably wouldn’t be too much trouble also adding in functionality to also store torrent descriptions.

The current version of the app can be downloaded with full source code from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/260840255/Pirate_Bay_Torrent_Ripper.rar
Rabbit80

What we really need is for the torrent files to be stored on a darknet and distributed amongst millions of PC’s – that way there would be no way of taking down the files.
RIAA, MPAA

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION THINK HEADED NERDS:

STOP USING STOLEN CONTENT TO MAKE YOUR MONEY; CREATE YOUR OWN CONTENT; IF YOU DO THAT AND SELL YOUR OWN CONTENT ON A LARGE SCALE, THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEM. IF YOU SELL OTHER PEOPLES CONTENT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT, YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU MAKE LOTS OF MONEY WHILE DOING SO. DIVIDING THE FILE SHARING PROCEDURE IN A 100,000 PARTS AND HAVE A SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL OVERSEE EACH PART OF THE PROCEDURE WILL NOT HELP YOU. WE REPEAT, IT WILL NOT HELP YOU.

SO NICE TRY TORRAGE:
We do not have any income or advertising on the site, instead we get the money it takes to run the service from the general public and other sites that uses our services for caching torrent files. If you like our service and want to contribute please contact donations@torrage.com

SO YOU CHOOSE:

1. DO NOT MAKE ANY MONEY AND DO NOT MODERATE OR OPERATE AN INDEX OF STOLEN FILES OR REFERENCES TO STOLEN FILES

2. MAKE MONEY AND ASK THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER OF THE FILE
(w)

Should any industry sue this service, this would be truly suing the torrent technology. There is absolutely nothing that can be used against the torrage provider, he simply cannot be in any way liable for what is stored on torrage. It is not even searchable by file names, there is not tracker, simly no way to accuse of assisting copyright infringement, as was used in TPB case.
diarRIAA

It won’t be long until the RIAA/MPAA wine and dine politicians and law makers behind closed doors and convinced them to write up and pass laws that simply HOSTING a .torrent file is completely illegal.

This of course would put the likes of Ubuntu, artistic producers and corporations in complete jeopardy because so many people are using .torrent technology to cut their bandwidth costs to distribute their content.

Any chance that Google will index said .torrents? ;)
Anonymous

Technically this is lame, but it is a good thing that people are putting things up that will test the laws and see what happens.

Cloud storage have many forms you can even use Gmail to store information (google doesn’t allow it but you can)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS would they sue google, microsoft, yahoo and other to use their email services to pass illegal stuff around?

I didn’t understand how the service works so I am shooting blind here and apologize if any of my assumptions are wrong.

ps: I’m assuming they are just hosting things and it is all encrypted so they don’t know what is going on, the thing is the server should not be the one encrypting anything it opens the doors to bully tactics and it doesn’t work so great.

If ever things get really uggly for people solutions already exist that have anonymity, encryption, search and DHT.

- GNUnet
- Retroshare.
- StealthNet.

And a lot of others have those capabilities already their are slow but are functional and have a high degree of protection right out of the box, I’m waiting for a bittorrent client that doesn’t use Java for those things as the only option for bittorrent is OneSwarm but I really didn’t like it and I have a grudge with Java, and bitblinder I never ever got the invite so I can’t say anything about it LoL
(w)

Everything but slamming swinging door is possible (that can only Chuck Norris do). But one thing is in my opinion also unrealistic: creating law, that would make simply hosting a .torrent file illegal, without proper reaction from the internet using riotous crowd.
gtguard.com

Great Idea, no info stored ?
roeles

Now let’s get a system where you can download the torrent from a tracker, based on this hash and you can start downloading without downloading the torrent from a website.
Factx

This is great, more services like this!

BTW: did anyone else notice this?

tracker.thepiratebay.org
-> 192.121.86.4

tracker.openbittorrent.com
-> 192.121.86.4

hmm
OMFG

when is this dude finally going to SHUT UP?

I guess Sunde still is the spokesperson?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/08/pirate-bay-sale-steams-ahead-but-whos-doing-the-selling.ars
Snoopy

@ Factx

GGF = ThePirateBay

They are simply buying their own site using the cash they already earned and are laundering the money while at it, and probably earning more because of the stock price.

The MAFIAA is clueless
Factx

@Snoopy

hehehe good theory ;)
Anonymous

@36… You aren’t both organisations, at best you’re probably some douchbag from BREIN, FACT, etc… that thinks they can talk on the industry’s behalf.

Your lawyers have done a good job of convincing courts that “fair use” and “fair dealing” do not exist. You ignore “permitted acts” of copying, you harass and bully consumers and really, your industry deserves none of the free promotion it gets from filesharing networks.

If you really do represent the entertainment industry in any way, be grateful as filesharing seems to have had little real effect on your industry (in some cases posting year on year increases in profits recently) but your actions need answering, and I think a proper boycott is what is called for.

You won’t stop filesharing, but you might cause enough outrage to stop consumers from consuming… you certainly seem to be making considerable process with that failure.
Anonymous

^typo… meant to be “progress” in that last line (not “process”).
cliff

bandwith is not always a problem … there are hosting company’s that allow you to use unlimited bandwith for reasonable prices! For example Hetzner in Germany … if you take a dedicated server over there you get 2 TB of traffic at 100mbit after that they move you to 10 mbit without extra charging of bandwith … for about 50 euro a month you get a root server with software raid 2x400GB 2GB of ram and a dual core amd processor.

However … I don’t have the balls to do it myself :-)

I’m sure 50 euro of gifts a month can not be so hard … is it ?
Jim Jensen

Oh wow, I like it! What a great idea!

RT
http://www.anon-web-tools.net.tc
Anonymoose

Ok…

So what happens when some-one uploads the same torrent(s) multiple times with bogus tracker URLs? :|
Outcast

We need another Torrage. Not just one.
Messi

@51
Download the source code from the torrage.com page, looks like they compare new trackers to a whitelist before adding them to the existing torrent.
a clue

to Factx – Get a fucking clue.

“BTW: did anyone else notice this?”
“tracker.thepiratebay.org -> 192.121.86.4″

Listen up, dickhead.
You don’t understand the concept of domain name and IP addresses, do you?
They’re selling *.thepiratebay.org – they’re not selling “192.121.86.4″
When thepiratebay.org is sold, it’s IP will change.

Meanwhile, you and every other armchair detective are doing the RIAA’s investigative work for them by pointing out obvious shit like that.
Anonymous

LoL it is not the most technically difficult thing but is great to see people experiment with news things LoL

Here is another idea get a copy of the project GmailFS(Gmail File System) the make the inbos of your gmail a virtual file system so you can encrypt the data and send it to all your friends to access it, people will shutdown google? hotmail? LoL
phishybongwaters

This could work if….

Torrage sites were all hosted in countries like Spain that have legally ruled piracy without profit is legal.

Then as long as the torrage sites remain donation and add free, they are off limits to the riaa/mpaa.

Then, I’d like to see something along the lines of auto backups that would take the torrents uploaded to torrage site A, and have them automatically propagated to torrage sites b,c,d, and this could grow exponentially.

New torrents posted on any site and automatically propagated to each and every site, reducing the single point of access as a security risk.

Better yet, would be a method to essentially torrent the site itself and allow others to join the “swarm” buy hosting torrents on their own sites, all safely locked away unless you have the hash.

Then users could setup sites like Rlslog, or simple forums or even twitter, to index the hashcodes for easy searching.

As long as there’s no single point of failure, it will keep going.

the main problem, as someone already pointed out, is costs.

You can, in Spain, run a torrent indexing site, without ads and donations, legally. But, you simply can’t afford the bandwidth you are going to need without ads or donations.

And that’s the knife in the back, we’re on the verge of doing all of this safely, but money will be the problem. Bandwidth is expensive, and without a donation system or paid ads, where is that money going to come from?

No offense, but if any of you think people hosting torrent sites are doing it for fun or because they want to share, you are retarded. It’s about making money.

This is a step in the right direction, but still provides a single point of failure. And masking the torrents with hash codes so no one can search doesn’t change the fact that they are links to pirated content.

And like I said, once this service takes off, people will be posting hash indexes of torrents everywhere.
Mr. Briggs

@2 (Reasoned Mind):

It’ll last, all right, but not legally.
Mr. Briggs

So, this will be torrents passed through torrents?

So we’re moving onto the realm of the MetaTorrent now, are we not?
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diarRIAA

@.neo.tard|nvDX

You live in a dream world if you think legit corporations aren’t thriving on piracy.

Do a search on Google for “spiderman filetype:torrent” without the quotes and see for yourself.

Perhaps you should be blasting Google and other large legit search engines with your RIAA/MPAA fanboi idiocy.

You’re a total moron.
Anonymous

@neostyles…

“Its their legal responsibility…”

From the hashes alone they cannot see which files are in a torrent or even what the torrent name is… so really, please shut the hell up.

@Gargamel (#23)

There is no central server that stores ANY copyrighted material, it is all meta-data and should be completely legal to host but I agree we need find a true decentralized solution instead.
.neo.styles|nvDX

4nd : If you told someone that drug traffing was a huge issue, do you think they would ask you to list exactly how many dollars worth of each drug were sold, the names of the people who handled the transactions, etc? No. You don’t need specifics to ascertain that the something is a huge issue.

How much damage? How much does the economy suffer? Please cite your response using links to your sources.

I dont need to do the math for you, but it’s a lot. Im only sad because you are trying to hard to legitimize theft.

Please go learn what GDP is

Here is one such article
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/68413/movie_piracy_hurts_entire_us_economy.html

Evidently, the notion that your little “hobby” was contributing to a problem that affects millions of people was too much for you too take. If only they knew.

Cite this, too. You will need the following information:
-The average number of visits per day to isoHunt
-The average amount of advertisements per page
-The average amount paid to the site per advertisement
-Whether that money is paid if the ad is clicked on, or merely downloaded
-And finally: You must make a distinction between income and profit by showing us how much isoHunt spends per month (or any suitable time period, so long as all other statistics adhere to it) in maintaining the site.

So, instead of actually logically countering my post, your demanding pointless exact figures? Has it ever occured to you that those exact figures aren’t available to the general public, because they would be decisively incriminating?
Whoops, I guess you lose this one again.

According to wikipedia, there are 7.4 million unique visitors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isohunt

That’s not profit. The copies that sharers download are effectively worthless because they can be replicated endlessly. I’d only profit if I acquired something with some real value.

Do you have a job, 4nd? If somone was stealing all your hard work, would be going to such extensive lengths to rationalize it?

Those copies are not worthless, because they are someone else’s hard work (something which you will probabaly never understand.) DVDs can also be replicated. Does that make them useless? What a ridiculous claim. IT’S THEIR WORK, AND THEY DESERVE TO BE PAID FOR IT. GET IT?

You don’t understand what freeloading is doing to the industry. You don’t understand what hard work is. You just sit there and smugly try and rationalize theft.
.neo.styles|nvDX

You live in a dream world if you think legit corporations aren’t thriving on piracy.

You live in a dream world if you think millions of people not paying for things magically creates profits.

And what the hell do you mean by legitimate corporations? Now corporations have to have their legitimacy affirmed by the very thieves that steal from them? Wow, that makes no sense at all.

What if it was your company and your millions that you were losing? Would you be so quick to support theft then?
[quote]Do a search on Google for “spiderman filetype:torrent” without the quotes and see for yourself.[/quote].. Uhm, yeah, and this will bring you to a torrent site. It’s not like google has a “download .torrent” button. You stil need to go to the actual site to browse torrents too.

Do you think most people actually use google to find torrents instead of simply heading to their favorite torrent site? Why do you think this is? Maybe because using the site directly makes the process of theft alot easier? Google is several steps distanced from the torrent file itself. The torrent sites are the final step.

Intent matters too. Google’s main purpose is to help people find web pages. Searching for file types was only discovered until later. Google has MANY legitimate sites indexed. Torrent sites on the other hand (atleast the ones we are dealing with here) have 99% copyrighted content and they think that it’s okay just because they want it to.

Perhaps you should be blasting Google and other large legit search engines with your RIAA/MPAA fanboi idiocy.
Im guessing you dont have a job either? You just sit there the whole day and enjoy your “god given” right to freeload?

You’re a total moron.

….That coming from someone who seems to believe that not paying for things creates profits and is somehow good for a company.

Talk about living in a dream world. You take the cake.
.neo.styles|nvDX

It won’t be long until the RIAA/MPAA wine and dine politicians and law makers behind closed doors and convinced them to write up and pass laws that simply HOSTING a .torrent file is completely illegal.

Wow, you really don’t get what paying for things is, do you?

Your lawyers have done a good job of convincing courts that “fair use” and “fair dealing” do not exist. You ignore “permitted acts” of copying, you harass and bully consumers and really, your industry deserves none of the free promotion it gets from filesharing networks.

Fair use doesn’t mean you dont have to pay for anything anymore, nor does it apply to creative works.

Just because you aren’t profiting off of it, doesn’t mean that it’s creators aren’t loosing money. Things take money to create and they need profits to compensate for those costs. If people hand things out to each other with torrents instead of paying for them (stealing by definition), then the studio isn’t getting any money. You can’t seriously believe that, without torrents, the sales numbers for great movies like batman : the dark knight would have been so low.
me

nice… also: all new tpb torrents get upped to torrage automatically.
Anonymous

Make a virtual filesystem in some email account and be happy ;)

GmailFS already is up and running you can even encrypt your virtual partition so no one nows what happens LoL
Anonymous

This is a great idea, I hope more sites come up to do this too.
benny

im afraid this is a trick from the major anti-piracy companies… so to lure all the big name torrent sites to it and then close it in one hit making us torrent less for perhaps weeks… it would perhaps save houndreds of TB of bandwidth to the internet providers of the world… so they are probablly in it too…

the hole world is against me!

lol. its possible.
nah in Phoenix

I posted earlier but the post is gone (hmmm.. I wonder what happened? /sarcasm) anyway this is a bad idea and will most likely fail. Im not gonna go into the run down here, but this would be like having to many eggs in the basket and its pretty much a pointless service unless dong intra-peer sharings on a personal level
Anonymous

@64 Aug 07, 2009 at 19:08 by .neo.styles|nvDX:

You don’t get it do you?

Sell the artist not the music!

Music is just a vector not a product.
Anonymous

“I posted earlier but the post is gone (hmmm.. I wonder what happened? /sarcasm) anyway this is a bad idea and will most likely fail. Im not gonna go into the run down here, but this would be like having to many eggs in the basket and its pretty much a pointless service unless dong intra-peer sharings on a personal level”

The point is to get a bunch of sites like this.
uknowme

@neo.styles..

You are making the industry-standard, unproven assumption that everyone who downloads a unit of product would have bought it had it not been for it’s free availability on p2p networks.

Your claims about fair use might be true in somewhere like America, but elsewhere in the world, there are plenty of critics/reviewers and researchers legitimately obtaining copyrighted works for free and in some central European countries, duplicating copyrighted works for personal use is completely acceptable and not seen as theft by the law.

Your labeling of everyone who downloads copyrighted material as ‘thieves’ only holds weight in countries sufficiently corrupted by corporate financial influence over politics and policy-making.

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Completely o.t… but still… Neo, have you ever worked for the recording/motion picture industries (maybe cover-art design or something)? ..or for anti-piracy organisations?
Indiana Skywalker

We do not a torrent storage service! Just make a torrent of all the .torrent files :)
Anonymous

“Once the torrent files are uploaded they can be accessed through a url that is based on the info_hash value of the torrent. “You can not search or list torrent files that are stored here, you can only access them if you already know the info_hash value of the torrent you want to download,” the Torrage site explains.”

This is a very WELCOME security feature, please keep it.
me

site is dead or its just my crappy connection?
Anonymous

Open tracker, open torrent cache, now we just need an open indexer.

http://sourceforge.com/projects/mrindex

Anybody got a box to stick this sucker? (Should be sweet when it gets finished)
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Bobe-On

I don’t want to give up a red cent for MPAA’s movies/industry and the people who work for them that seem to regard us and consumers in general with utter contempt, as though we were a necessary evil through which to make a profit.

Paying for just one makes me an “accomplice” for the MPAA and makes me feel dirty, like I have a film all over me, like I’ve stolen a piece of my own soul to sell to the devil.
Bit torrent makes me feel clean again.
But it’s not just one industry. Paying for a lot of stuff these days seems to turns us all into batteries where we have to turn around and work for practically the same industries– “the robots”– so they can then use that money to sue people and buy up all kinds of overseas land and private islands and dictate their new rules to the locals– often their governments, police and lawyers.

The Matrix is a system, Neo…
LaughingMatters

@.neo.styles|nvDX: bitch pu-lease! Everybody moved on, but you’re still playing your old vinyl record which keeps repeating itself: ‘you are thieves… you are thieves… you are thieves…’ Yes I am a thief, and I’m proud to steal your shit everyday simply because I CAN! And once it’s downloaded, i’ll delete it and start downloading it again and again and again just to piss you and other ignorant diaRIAA people off. You call yourself Neo Styles and think we still live in 1990? Wake the fuck up man!

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