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TorrentFreedom Offers 100% Anonymous and Unrestricted BitTorrent

With a militant style more associated with the crew of The Pirate Bay, TorrentFreedom promises to put the user back in control, by offering a new BitTorrent-optimized, zero-logging, 100% anonymous VPN service, guaranteed to punch a hole through throttling ISPs. Be quick for a free account!

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TorrentFreedom

Born out of the VPNTunnel Project, the TorrentFreedom ‘manifesto’ is an interesting document, particularly if you’ve ever worried about being tracked, traffic shaped, blocked or censored on the Internet. With a suitably clandestine feel, the manifesto states:

“Today, there is a nexus of Schumpeterian creative destruction to be found at the asymptotic fringe of intellectual property law and networking technology. Everyone says there is an ‘arms race’ between the unwashed filesharing masses and the forces of Big Brother – we like to think of ourselves as the suitcase nuke for the little guys.”

TorrentFreak got in touch with ‘Faust’ of TorrentFreedom to find out what on earth they’re talking about.

TF: Tell us about this ‘creative destruction’ and what inspired you to create TorrentFreedom.

Faust: It’s all but trite to point out nowadays that we’ve undergone a revolution in how human knowledge is created, stored, and shared. And, much as Schumpeter himself had predicted, the creativity unleashed has more than made up for the detritus of old forms of information transmission that now scatter the landscape like broken, forgotten toys. This is as it should be. The backlash from the praxis of stasis threatens to drown the organic reinvigoration that innovation technology has always brought forth – there would be no 95 theses without Gutenburg, remember.

So our inspiration comes from a deeper, historical appreciation for the transformative role of new technologies in human social organization. Nobody knows where creativity, academia, and knowledge creation will evolve as our tools allow for more and deeper interconnection between physically disparate peoples – but we do know that hampering that process isn’t part of making a better world for all beings. We’d like to see people keep sharing, keep learning, keep exploring. . . and they can’t do that if there’s roadblocks and threats of censorship every step of the way. Make it easy and make it work, that’s our approach – then the creative destruction can continue apace.

TF: There are number of evils you appear to tackle head on with this service, such as traffic shaping, packet raping, blocking, censorship etc. I expect lots of Comcast customers will be interested as you specifically mention the ‘Sandvining’ technique they employ. How does your system work and how will it benefit each type of problem?

Faust: Metaphorically, the system is quite simple: think of the difference between sending postcards in the postal mail, versus sending sealed envelopes. A postcard can easily be read by anyone along the way, and if they don’t like what it says (or who it is addressed to), they could just throw it out – oops! A sealed letter isn’t vulnerable like that – the contents aren’t readable whilst in transit. Even more than that, our system protects the address (sender and receiver) on the envelope as well – so nobody can block the message just because they don’t like where it’s headed (or where it’s come from).

At a deeper level, our server farm is based in the Netherlands. Everything passes in and out of these machines, and all IP addresses are associated with them. The activities of our customers – once their sessions decrypt and leave our server farm – are fully and unambiguously decoupled from their RL info (including local/physical IP address). Big Brother isn’t going to show up at their doorstep with a fishing-expedition summons or subpoena. We took it a step further, however – we’ve broken the link between RL info and public IP for our customers inside our systems as well – once an account is set up, it is methodologically impossible for anyone to back-connect a given external TF IP address to a customers’ specific account, ever.

TF: You’re called TorrentFreedom so it’s fairly clear which crowd you’re aiming your product act. What sort of dedicated optimizations can BitTorrent users look forward to when using your service?

Faust: We’ve tested the service extensively with just about every BT client out there. They all work seamlessly. We also don’t penalize our customers for running lots of network traffic over TorrentFreedom – there are no monthly caps, and no drama if someone uses a lot of gigs with us. That’s cool – it’s why we built the system!

OpenVPN, in its rawest form, will work with BT traffic – but getting it to do so consistently and smoothly is nontrivial. We’ve done all that work, so our customers don’t need to become experts in subnet addressing, MTU window sizing, and the 100 other little tweaks one needs to do to really make BT over a VPN sing. We also hand out real, public IP addresses – so no port forwarding garbage, just fast connectivity.

TF: Please give us a brief rundown on how your system works.

Faust: On a technical level, it’s an implementation of the TLS-based OpenVPN project’s codebase (which itself implements various OpenSSL crypto algorithms). Starting from there, we’ve created a Java-based client that handles all the encryption and coordinates OpenVPN’s handshake tasks, to ensure that every packet coming and going from our customers’ PCs is tightly encrypted (including DNS queries, unlike pptp). The really cool stuff comes in the firewall-busting tricks that our client has up its sleeve – there’s very few local network configurations that we can’t tunnel through. . . with no customer tweaking of the software needed. We’ve also implemented a rather clever port 443 wrapper so that, unlike many VPN instantiations, the TorrentFreedom service can’t be blocked unless the entire HTTPS capacity is also shut down – unlikely.

We’ve built most everything with open code, and we’re pushing further in that direction (with perhaps full distribution of the source for our client extensions in the works). “Just trust us” crypto isn’t worth anything – if it’s not open, it’s not reliable. We run 2048 keylength RSA algorithms so, to the local ISP or anyone else “listening in” to our customers’ packets, the data all looks like a stream of secure web traffic, back and forth. This is true for ALL IP traffic coming off a machine, all protocols and all applications. So there’s no need to tweak individual applications to get them to “work” with TorrentFreedom – just set up the client, connect, and everything is encrypted all the time.

TF: There are other well known VPN services that say they are strong on anonymity and hide your IP address, yet all of them will give up your personal details at some point. How is TorrentFreedom going to live up to the claim in the manifesto that BitTorrent users using your service will be “just about as traceable as dusty footprints in a windswept street. You can’t subpoena what doesn’t exist” ?

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Faust: Ok this is where the rubber really meets the road. An “anonymizing” service that keeps detailed records of their customers’ activities is just a problem waiting to happen. There’s no point in hiding an IP address only to keep records that connect that IP address to the one that’s used to cover for it! And, reality is that there is no place in the world that isn’t subject to some form of legal jurisdiction – just saying “we won’t turn over records” is silly. When the authorities show up – with court orders or guns – and people start talking about jail time and contempt, those records are going to get coughed up, period. Despite our respect for the company overall, Hushmail’s admission that it provides “secure” email information to certain government authorities demonstrates all too well that even a good team will fold if the pressure gets too high – and if they have information to provide in the first place!

We built the system from day one so that there’s no correlation between an IP+timestamp and a username – this means we can’t hand over logs of “who was on what IP at what time”, and therefore the user can’t be tracked back from their online activity. Our payment system is fully abstracted from the operational environment – billing events are passed to the VPN engine via temporary “tokens” that are one-way-factors – there’s no link between the VPN account and the details of the billing transaction, ever.

We keep a little bit of data on file to make sure we can monitor the performance of the system overall, but we don’t have “server logs” like everyone else does. They don’t exist. So, we can be forced to turn over those logs – but they don’t link back to anything. Not to mention all of our operational VMs run in fully-encrypted partitions, etc. Someone seizing any of our servers has nothing but an expensive doorjam for their troubles. Even someone with full access to every machine we have cannot link people to their past network traffic through TorrentFreedom. It’s structural anonymity, at the most fundamental level.

Now, there’s lots of other VPN services out there and some of them are sorta ok. Most, let’s be honest, are based on pptp – it’s really insecure with several known weaknesses. Plus, it’s closed-source/proprietary, so who knows if it has backdoors or not? The reason people use it is because it’s easy to set up – Windows machines come with it pre-installed. Well, we did the hard work of getting a real VPN implementation (OpenVPN) to work just as easily as pptp – but without the security problems.

Some of the stuff we did is a little complex, behind the scenes, but the end result is a service that’s really easy to set up and use. We’ve got clients for Windows, Macs, and Linux. We don’t limit bandwidth, and we’ve got some very fast servers backing it all up. It’s all done right.

TF: Any final thoughts?

Faust: Using TorrentFreedom for online security is like bringing a machine-gun to a knife fight. . . it might not be ‘fair,’ but the outcome isn’t going to be in question either.

TF: lol ;)

TorrentFreedom has agreed to let the first 50 lucky TorrentFreak readers have a month’s free subscription to test out their service and see if it lives up to the claims. Hurry! They won’t last long!

Update: the free invites are gone.

Alternatives: (not free)

Relakks
Smarhide
VPNtunnel

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  • zarathustra

    Signing up now… =]

  • souljazz

    look’s absolutely gteat…thank’s!

  • how

    how do you get the free subscription?? Surely I’m on of the first right?

  • Belorei

    Mmm, how do we take advantage of this first 50 free subscription for one month offer?

  • zarathustra

    “consider yourself one of the chosen – our first 50 customers are getting a month’s torrentfreedom service gratis, so. . . congrats, no need to pay, have fun!”

    BOOYAKASHAH! =]

    P.S. Site only works in Firefox.

  • santoscrew

    yeah, where is the free signup link? :P

  • a13

    Just signup for a one month subscription and you will get the above message ^^

  • AxE

    Yea where’s the free signup link? lol…

  • Anonymous

    Are sign up’s supposed to be open, just had a look on TorrentFreedom.com and can’t see anyere to sign up?

  • a13

    http://www.torrentfreedom.com/buy.php

    Go there and signup for the 1 month of TorrentFreedom Service – $17 – (one-off) and you will get it free!

  • santoscrew

    ah your supposed to buy it, but you then get a torrentfreak free account :p

  • Belorei

    http://www.khellmirror.com/oh.jpg

    Yep, just sign up like you would if you were going to pay for a subscription.

    Hello high-speed VPN!

  • how

    Cool! Good thing I did the logical thing! So what happens now, I’ve downloaded the client and logged in, and also logged in on the site, how does it work? Does it simply annonymie my utorrent now?

  • Aron T

    w00t

    Anyone else wearing yellow?

  • Midelivered

    Great news.

  • Belorei

    Yep. Just login through the client and you’re automatically anonymized.

    Check whatismyip.com with it on and then turn it off and check it again to be sure. Currently browsing TorrentFreak using it and being thousands of kilometres away from their servers it’s lightning fast!

  • oki

    Great :)

  • Reb

    Right, nice advertising. How much does Torrentfreak earn by this? FUCKERS.

  • pez

    looks like they’re already out of the free accounts…

  • Asd

    Interesting. :-)

    Got account for free.

  • www

    awesome)

  • a/s/l

    TorrentFreedom is an RIAA/MPAA scam.

    DON’T FALL FOR IT

  • how

    For those with an x64 system, download the OpenVPN installer at http://openvpn.net/download.html and just tick the TAP-Win32 adapter driver. That will get it working on your x64 system.

  • robbansworld@gmail.com

    Sign me up m8!

  • Magician

    They are gonna make sooooo much money from this… but rather give them the cash then the RIAA..

    And so the arms race continues…

  • Khell

    Looked up TorrentFreedom on WHOIS and it seems they do a normal VPN service using the same technology as TorrentFreedom too.

    goldensVPN (http://www.goldens.com).

  • yayayayay

    hey quite fast[quote comment="284604"]TorrentFreedom is an RIAA/MPAA scam.

    DON’T FALL FOR IT[/quote]
    with servers in the netherlands?

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    I already got Relakks :D

  • Sub_Q

    Gief subscription!

  • Kioto

    wow looks awesome.
    gief plx!

  • Sub_Q

    Oh, and yeah. isnt taking paid for bittorrent service against the whole idea of free sharing?

    The site is a scam.

    If you want to be anonymous use Relakks, its free, fun, and has a nice design.

    You shouldnt have to pay for torrents, the end. TorrentFreedom my ass.

  • peter griffin

    $17 ???
    safer to buy my stuff in the shop…

  • ka_ko

    so what if my admin closed all of the “HTTPS” connections and only opened it for a limited websites???

    can I connect to their servers???

  • santoscrew

    @31

    Relakks is free? The homepage tells me different.

  • Khell

    [quote comment="284619"]If you want to be anonymous use Relakks, its free, fun, and has a nice design.
    [/quote]

    Relakks is free? Since when?

  • jacob

    How do I get mine to try out?

  • Solid

    Signing up for free subscription! : )

  • Deus Mortus

    Everyone screaming that their service should be free are retarded, they have to use a lot of servers to tunnel all that traffic and I suspect that as soon as they will encounter a lot of real high traffic downloaders/uploaders they won’t even break even on those subscriptions…

  • Anonymous

    the 50 must be full I don’t see anything to indicate that I would get a free month

  • Roflcer of the Lawl

    No.

  • nosarog

    good news;)

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="284619"]Oh, and yeah. isnt taking paid for bittorrent service against the whole idea of free sharing?

    The site is a scam.

    If you want to be anonymous use Relakks, its free, fun, and has a nice design.

    You shouldnt have to pay for torrents, the end. TorrentFreedom my ass.[/quote]
    Free? No, lol, relakks cost 49 crowns a week, and that’s about 7.5 US dollars.

  • Anonymous

    Edit: I didn’t mean week… I ment month.. my fault

  • BoBaH

    very nice :)

  • Candor

    Wouldve been nice with one of those (;

  • Anon

    I think I’ll pass – I’d rather pay for VPN Tunnel and skip this. You may all wish to read the terms here – http://www.torrentfreedom.com/terms.php – just in case there is something there you don’t like.
    I didn’t like the terms so I’m skipping it.
    Blatant plug by TF IMHO – what’s the kickback for TF for referring others to TorrentFreedom I wonder?!

  • Cuthbert

    So, relakks sucks, i feel a loss of speed – and it’s definitively not free

    I hope torrentfreedom is 4 real, sounds a bit too agressive and I’m wondering if MAFIAA or such a f*cking organisation won’t take legal action…

    $ 17 … it’s ok

  • Mikle

    Well 17$ vs. 6.5$ (Relakks). Well I keep Relakks :P

  • Anonymous

    TF: lol ;)

    what a plug.

  • Eisenherz

    somewhat expensive this $17 monthly charge. Relakks costs me only €5 /month.

  • oneplusone

    Nope.

  • SPiN

    Definitely not going to be jumping in to this. For those of you who have got free account/paid already, I’d like to know the results.

  • SPiN

    Oh and the comparison of speeds :D

  • pcruzm

    Oh, I registered compulsively but then I remembered I don’t need it anyway >___>…

    Here’s a free account if anybody cares:
    user: pcruzm
    pass: 123456

    (First come first serve, you may change the password in the support page)

  • Anonymous

    I like their attitude ;)

    TF FTW! (both lol)

    Ive been throttled before on certain ports, and imho it should be illigal for a ISP to do sutch.
    Thats like having a car renting service and providing skateboards or lollerblades..

    Might test in the future, bit poor because of gaming addiction… xd
    who said pirates dont BUY stuff? =o(

    Best of luck TF, hope your service does well because its realy needed!

  • nevermind1534

    pcruzm, your account isn’t verified.

  • Anonymous

    The problems with relakks is they link user data and ip logs so that could be given out if demanded by authorities. You can find this out by reading the legal page at relakks. So not only do they log your traffic they also link it to user data, which basically makes them useless IMO.

    From reading this article it would appear TF solves these problems. I’m not sure how TF stands in a legal view point. I thought some form of logging was mandatory under EU rules.

  • Mikle

    #57, the Swedish (etc. TPB) and the US lov isnt the same. You have to have comitted a crime up to 2 years jail before they can hand over the information. With not will happen. So Im glad for Relakks and max my 20/1 connection :) However Im from denmark and how will they trace me when I have a swedish IP in torrent? They are not the authorety! ;)

  • Anonymous

    These guys don’t even have a dedicated server (do a reverse ip check), how can they handle all that traffic?
    This looks phishy (pun intended) to say the least.

  • Anonymous

    aaaand now the site’s spewing out php errors. very odd, references to “geoip” and “tracker” php files.

    that’s pretty shady.

  • Anonymous

    Hmm, this is hosted on the same ip as TF:

    Goldens.com

    http://goldens.com/whatitis.php

    Let me guess, it’s the same service but under a different name? ;)

  • darth_yoda (UK)

    pcruzm’s account was verified as i just logged into it, but it looks like the account has been disabled by torrent freedom.

  • Vui zvui gfui

    Let’s see how this turns out. It sounds a little bit too good to be true. Well, I sure hope it works like advertised.

  • Anonymous

    The ‘problem’ with a service like this is that ‘everything’ you do goes thru that link… web surfing, e-mail, im’s… it’s not limited to bittorrent traffic.

    They also seem to have the same attitude as TPB – “their arrogance will be their undoing”.

    I’m already paying $50 for HSI access. Smarter and better to get a Usenet account.

  • Anonymous

    here is what they andwered me when i emailed them:

    “Hahaha… A month free? You’re funny. You seem to think we haven’t thought this one through. Do you know what a gigabit port is? You also assume that we’re not the owners of the other domains…
    You forget: We *are* a server provider. That entire server and the network it’s on belongs to us.
    You ought to read the Terms of Service. We do offer refunds. ”

    bunch of a$$holes..this is how they treat possible customers and they expect that people to do business with the. Bunch of idiots.

  • Anonymous

    …and of course, a little grammar would not hurt either, so bear with me.

  • dickcheese

    why not just use usenet? I use to use relakks and torrents but since trying giganews/newleecher I will never go back.

  • Mikle

    But that cost money :)?

  • correction

    Contrary to the article, DNS *can* be tunneled through PPTP.

  • anon

    i stopped reading their ramblings at “nexus of Schumpeterian creative destruction”. epic fail.

  • h33t

    too good to be true and you know what that means

    first you need to know who the operator is, it could be anyone, and that should not give you a warm feelin. we need some kind of independent validation of who they are before trusting them. perhaps an EFF certification

    second the legalese, the last para of their small print:

    [quote]

    The buyer shall indemnify and hold Torrent Freedom harmless against all third party claims, demands, suits, actions, judgments, losses, costs, damages (direct, indirect and consequential), attorney’s fees and expenses that Torrent Freedom may sustain or incur by reason of any breach or alleged breach of any term or condition of this Agreement any other policies enforced by Torrent Freedom’s administration.

    [/quote]

    it translates as:

    [quote]

    if we get sued because of something you do then you pay us all our costs everything

    [/quote]

    i have a couple of real issues now:

    1. how do they know it was you who did something bad if they do not log?
    2. why does the contract contain an inoperable clause which contradicts the service?

    assuming these guys are no amateurs, there is a real problem. contradiction in the contract, at the basic legal level means danger

  • Anonymous

    Like I said in #64… “their arrogance will be their undoing”.

    And so it is.

  • Aron T

    Good thing it’s free right now – I’d be pissed if I spent all day trying to get this up with no success… But time is money too, so I don’t know if this is worth it…

  • Aron T

    Ps, On a whim I installed OpenVPN (don’t install the TAP virtual adapter) and that fixed my problem. Seems to be working now.

  • melvillain

    I’d rather pay for a Usenet account.

  • funchords

    Holy Christ!

    Someone needs to throw away this guy’s Thesaurus!

  • funchords

    H33t (post #71)

    Basically what they’re saying there is that if you’re stupid enough to do something on their service that leads to you getting caught (like signing your real name on an NFO file), that you’ll pay their attorney’s fees if they get sued too.

    That is very standard, harmless text. It doesn’t mean that they’re in bed with Big Brother.

  • funchords

    TorrentFreedom: I’m concerned about HelpDeskconnect — it records a lot of discoverable information from the users who submit through it.

    For the users that do not use it, it is no problem.

    You may want to warn your users to be careful about what they disclose through it and that their logging and retention rules are different from your own.

  • Kochon

    [quote comment="284604"]TorrentFreedom is an RIAA/MPAA scam.

    DON’T FALL FOR IT[/quote]
    I’m tempted in believing in this, so I wont suscribe

  • HPJ

    10 British Pound for 50 GB is really not cheap.

  • Silent

    [quote comment="284604"]TorrentFreedom is an RIAA/MPAA scam.

    DON’T FALL FOR IT[/quote]

    And who says you’re not just another RIAA/MPAA internet troll? Anyone believing you must be retarded. Do you have some proof to support your claim? No? Eat shit and die, you little retard.

    I got myself a free account and I’ll use it to it’s maximum.

  • Jay

    Sorry, but I refuse to pay to download torrents. Id rather just pay my ISP to browse AND download.

  • Jay2

    Besides, theres no such thing as 100% anonymous bittorrent usage.

  • Silent

    Goddamn it, you people are seriously demented. You don’ t pay to download torrents! You pay for a secure VPN tunnel, and you use it as you’re pleased. What the fuck is wrong with you?!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

  • mentally unstable

    [quote comment="284896"]Goddamn it, you people are seriously demented. You don’ t pay to download torrents! You pay for a secure VPN tunnel, and you use it as you’re pleased. What the fuck is wrong with you?!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network/quote

    QFT

  • anon

    hmm torrentFreedom – and you have to pay to join…. interesting

  • Yinchie

    People saying I refuse to pay for that or that because i can download etc etc… obviously never heard of donating something for a specific service to help them.

    Greedy people.

    I occasionally donate private bittorrent communities as example because of what they are providing.

  • Anonymous

    This might be alright as long as they have good hardware and connectivity behind them- but given that the site looks like it was written by high school kids, it’s probably going to be useless.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="284908"]hmm torrentFreedom – and you have to pay to join…. interesting[/quote]
    Are you living in fantasy land?

    “We offer servers with 100Mbps down and up.”
    “We don’t cap your speeds and we’ve got the bandwidth to keep everyone going at full throttle.”

    Maybe its just me but i would think that stuff costs moneyz..

    *smacks head in keyboard*

  • Anonymous

    Odds of needing this…Not very high.

    Most likely you aren’t going to be in trouble for just d/l over Comcast/ATT/Cox/etc…

    And…if you are concerned…just switch to Verizon internet. The president already said its not going to track the ips of its customers at all for anything. Verizon FTW!

  • jonesy

    obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.

  • TorrenTnerroT

    looks too good to be true.

    but the reality cannot catch up to the fantasy.

  • forwhat84@yahoo.com

    wish i can use it… im sad!

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    Obviously you have no idea of what your talking about…obviously

  • Anonymous

    If this post wasn’t sponsored I’ll eat my hat. This place is going down the pan.

  • U R RETARDED

    [quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.

  • KarmaDebugger

    He can’t speak human English.

  • Anon

    I’m calling Admiral Ackbar on this one.

  • kuken

    seoursly have torrentfreak became a fucking sellout site? this shit sucks and i guess they made lots of money on this shit

  • n00b

    PS: i dont give a fuck

  • Ben

    Until they can match/beat the ~$8US I pay a month for Relakks, I’m not going to bite. Besides, Relakks has been significantly more reliable within the last 2 weeks than it has ever been. TorrentFreak should run a story/interview with them on how they’ve improved their service. I used to get disconnects all the time, but I’ve been logged in for the past week+ without trouble. Hopefully some Relakks users switch to this to take the load off their servers!

  • HuntedCharlie

    Can anybody who got a free account to to like speedtest.net and give me the speeds (or just link me to the speedtest image)? Relakks comes nowhere near to maxing out my 8 MBPS/0.5 MBPS connection, I’d grab an account if this could.

  • Khell

    I managed to get 500-600KB/s downloading last night on a torrent with around 799 seeders and 41 peers. That’s nowhere near maxing out my 15mbit download but it’s the average I get being so far away.

    One thing though – you CANNOT seed using the VPN. 3KB/s upload was the max I could get.

  • jockstrap

    Firstly, fuck off with this shitty advertising for your ‘friend’.

    The point of using bit-torrent is that its free, relativly quick and easy to use. Unless your planning on uploading a crazy amount of data (and lets face it folks, the average bit-torrent user is a hit and runner unless your on a private tracker) then the added security is pretty much going to be useless, specially as there are alternatives out there.

    Good luck with it, but I can see it going down the pan faster than the shit I took moments ago.

  • U R RETARDED’s mum

    [quote comment="284957"][quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.[/quote]

    p2p = free, this service = not, comprende?

  • Jesus Christ

    [quote comment="285039"][quote comment="284957"][quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.[/quote]

    p2p = free, this service = not, comprende?[/quote]

    It’s VPN and gigabit ports costs money. Comprende? Fucking imbecile.

    BTW, YOU CAN SEED WITH VPN YOU FUCKING MORONS!

    And this VPN totally owns that piece of shit Relakks.

  • Anonymous

    [quote comment="285057"][quote comment="285039"][quote comment="284957"][quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.[/quote]

    p2p = free, this service = not, comprende?[/quote]

    It’s VPN and gigabit ports costs money. Comprende? Fucking imbecile.

    BTW, YOU CAN SEED WITH VPN YOU FUCKING MORONS!

    And this VPN totally owns that piece of shit Relakks.[/quote]

    Looks like someone’s being paid to promote a service…

  • Jean ValJean

    [quote comment="285057"][quote comment="285039"][quote comment="284957"][quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.[/quote]

    p2p = free, this service = not, comprende?[/quote]

    It’s VPN and gigabit ports costs money. Comprende? Fucking imbecile.

    BTW, YOU CAN SEED WITH VPN YOU FUCKING MORONS!

    And this VPN totally owns that piece of shit Relakks.[/quote]

    Looks like someone’s in bed with torrentfreedom…

  • THE INTERNET

    THE INTERNET ISO = 45,792,698,635 YB

    kB (kilobyte) 1000 to the power 1
    MB (megabyte) 1000 to the power 2
    GB (gigabyte) 1000 to the power 3
    TB (terabyte) 1000 to the power 4
    PB (petabyte) 1000 to the power 5
    EB (exabyte) 1000 to the power 6
    ZB (zettabyte) 1000 to the power 7
    YB (yottabyte) 1000 to the power 8

    PRESS >>HERE<< TO START DOWNLOADING

  • annoyance

    TorrentFreedom = scam

  • Chief

    You know, I’ve been wanting to do something similar to this. Many of you know about TOR-Privoxy, but they discourage its use for P2P traffic due to the limited number of exit nodes. Why doesn’t someone make a hybrid BT-TOR P2P client, where all clients are forced to act as exit nodes? Just its existence would be able to make it impossible to prove who did what. It’d be interesting to see how that went the first time it ends up in court.

  • unknown

    for what they charge a month you might as well just by an account from a usenet isp. same price (some are cheaper), amazing content and speeds that will go as fast as yor connection can handle. oh yeah and they don’t store logs and you don’t even have to mess with this type of service.

  • Dick Hertz

    [quote comment="284978"]Until they can match/beat the ~$8US I pay a month for Relakks, I’m not going to bite. Besides, Relakks has been significantly more reliable within the last 2 weeks than it has ever been. TorrentFreak should run a story/interview with them on how they’ve improved their service. I used to get disconnects all the time, but I’ve been logged in for the past week+ without trouble. Hopefully some Relakks users switch to this to take the load off their servers![/quote]

    Anyone using Relakks should realize they’re going to have fewer connections as all of Relakks’ IP’s are blocklisted on PG and other IP blockers.

  • Anonymous

    I wish I could just get the facts on this rather than this ridiculous flame war going on here. To me, it seems like this service is really just a VPN that does not keep logs. So, you send traffic through the VPN, which is encrypted; the only place/site that has your IP is torrentfreedom. But because they do not keep logs, the only time they have your IP is when you are currently downloading on/connected to the VPN. Now, with the way bittorrent works, Now lets take a for instance; if the RIAA/Mediadefender etc are collecting IPs that try to use trackers, they will just get the IP of torrentfreedom (the VPN). Thus you would be “safe” from an IP tracking standpoint and from any logs of your IP or internet activities… making you 99% safe to use bittorrent. Is this correct?

  • unknown

    [quote comment="285134"]I wish I could just get the facts on this rather than this ridiculous flame war going on here. To me, it seems like this service is really just a VPN that does not keep logs. So, you send traffic through the VPN, which is encrypted; the only place/site that has your IP is torrentfreedom. But because they do not keep logs, the only time they have your IP is when you are currently downloading on/connected to the VPN. Now, with the way bittorrent works, Now lets take a for instance; if the RIAA/Mediadefender etc are collecting IPs that try to use trackers, they will just get the IP of torrentfreedom (the VPN). Thus you would be “safe” from an IP tracking standpoint and from any logs of your IP or internet activities… making you 99% safe to use bittorrent. Is this correct?[/quote]

    they claim they don’t keep logs…this whole thing seems suspisous.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.slyck.com/story1376_BitTorrent_vs_Usenet

    Privacy – Decisive Usenet Advantage

    A major concern for many file-sharers is security. With the IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry) promising to conduct 1,000 copyright enforcement actions per month, and the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) having already sued almost 20,000 individuals, retaining one’s privacy is an understandable concern.

    To understand how people become a copyright enforcement statistic is to understand why Usenet has the undisputed advantage over BitTorrent – or any other P2P network. Virtually every instance an individual has been sued has been the result of sharing material online – otherwise known as uploading. BitTorrent depends on uploading for its very survival, Usenet does not.

    Unlike P2P networking, Usenet does not encourage or otherwise recommend that its userbase upload any material. There are established responsibilities within the Usenet hierarchy , those who provide and those who download. This is the way Usenet has functioned since for it’s nearly 30 year history, and shows no signs of deterioration. For now, as no one has been sued for merely downloading material, Usenet is far and away the most secure way to obtain information online.

    It should also be noted that most Usenet clients and servers support end-to-end encryption, which adds an additional layer of security.

  • AvangionQ

    “‘Today, there is a nexus of Schumpeterian creative destruction to be found at the asymptotic fringe of intellectual property law and networking technology. Everyone says there is an `arms race` between the unwashed file-sharing masses and the forces of Big Brother – we like to think of ourselves as the suitcase nuke for the little guys.”" … VPN proxy tunneling services may be the last recourse for people trapped in regions where a single ISP such as Comcast has a monopoly and is your only available choice for broadband internet access … this country was founded on the idea of `we the people` — but now, its become `we the corporate` … and `we the people` need to get our political representatives to restore our country before we become another former lost democracy turned fascist state.

  • Suspicious

    88 Feb 09, 2008 at 01:00 by AnonymousQuote This might be alright as long as they have good hardware and connectivity behind them- but given that the site looks like it was written by high school kids, it’s probably going to be useless.

    QFT, i’ll watch in obeyance and see what happens. Just gut feeling something aint quite right here.

  • Anonymous

    The owner and operator of this site is better known as “Fausty”, or Douglas Spink. He is an animal molester, his name appears on sites such as “Beastforum” and “Elitezoo”. He was also caught trying to smuggle several hundred kilos of cocaine into Canada in early 2005.

    He is dangerous. Stay far, far away!

  • Anonymous

    TorrentFreak has been invaded by anti-pirate trolls…

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know what all the fuss is here(as well as on digg).

    I bet if all these “skeptic” complainers were given a free signup most of them would try it.

    I was lucky enough to be one of the early ones, and I will try it out, seems good for now.

  • Anonymous

    so does there service hand out ip’s when you connect to it or is one assigned to your account?

  • anon

    I was just stating that the name compared to the service was quite ironic

  • eggz

    this is a VPN service, not a torrent service. torrents ARE free! fuckwits

  • Peter

    SubQ : they are not charging you for torrents, they are chraging you for setting up and running VPN-servers
    with a big fat pipe . And relakks isn’t free .
    You don’t have a fucking clue, do you ?

  • thefuture

    @ post 122: not quite sure what you mean, but I’ve had the same IP (which points to Norway) so far. I think. whatismyipaddress.com has always said it’s Norway anyway

  • thefuture

    I mean the Netherlands.

  • ColdSoul

    Ok, I should let you know that Faust is a KNOWN crook.I wouldnt trust this service even if it was free!

    He has left a string of disgruntled people who have lost 1000′s of dollars to this chump!

    I should also point out that he was once caught smuggling many lb’s of cocaine over the US border. For all those who have seen the damage crack cocaine does to people, do you really want to fund his future drugs empire? I sure wouldnt!

    Be warned! He is a rip off merchant. keep your money in your pocket.

  • ColdSoul

    TorrentFreak: I will be emailing you some details on this person and you can then make up your own damned minds if you want to ‘endorse’ his service.

  • Anonymous

    @126

    relakks gives you a new ip every time you connect to it, very useful for circumventing rapidshare and other ip based blocks. Seems like this service not very good for trolling and getting B&

  • Anonymous

    i hope their service are better than their web site!!!

  • JC

    I can confirm that Goldens.com is owned by a man who goes by the handle “Fausty”, and he advertises it regularly on a zoophile website called “Elitezoo”. Anybody who cares to register there (it’s free) can view his signature on his posts, which links to goldens.com. (I’d hurry if you want proof, because he’s probably monitoring this thread and will change it if he notes this comment). Run a google search for “Fausty” and “cocaine”, and then follow the links from there. He is a nasty piece of work, and is undoubtedly being monitored by the feds due to his drug bust.

  • Anonymous

    WE MUST SUPPORT HIS AWESOME LIFESTYLE BY GIVING HIM MOAR MONEYS, IS A MAN NOT ENTITLED TO HIS DRUG OF CHOICE?

  • Fred

    I can verify that this guy is who they say he is (“Fausty”) and what they say he is. I’ve had some personal and painful experience with him.
    They forgot to mention that he got out of the fed prison by rolling on his buddies.
    You want to trust him not to keep logs or permit anyone else to?

  • Anonymous

    If you are given a real IP from TF’s pool of IPs – what is to stop ISP’s just blocking traffic to these IPs?

    ISPs traffic shape as there isn’t infinite bandwidth – in theory by trying to bypass traffic shaping you eventually saturate the link you are using and everyone ends up with a slow connection.

  • Steven

    Ok, I just got it up and running with Leopard.

    It wasn’t easy… if you want to find out what I did, send me an email to tf-stevenknightswood[dot]net.

    My results are not surprising at all… yes, you WILL lose speed on your connection to your machine, because you are diverting your (now encrypted) traffic from the US to NL and then somewhere else.

    My connection to the internet is pretty fast. Speak Easy’s speed test normally shows it as 6866 down / 3424 up, but while connected to TF it is only 3268 down / 969 up… so I lose a *LOT* of speed.

    But it is something that I can live with during those times when I need anonymity.

    Peace.

  • yousoldyoursoul

    As TorrentFreedom spokesperson, you Faust should get your act together, you dont sound reassuring mate, more like like a silly clown messiah. what? discovered the cure for cancer or something that important? :(

    I got this from, well not a torrent tracker btw, can’t quote the source, but here’s what the siteop there posted about p2p.

    “P2P HAS NOW BECOME STRICTLY BUSINESS HOWEVER RUN BY INCOMPETENT AMATEURS AND DUBIOUS CHARACTERS

    As 2008 really takes off now, there isn’t a single shuttle from P2P quarters, programmewise, and not a single new site, no new “private tracker” as they call it (mind the quotes, they are meant to represent their demoralisation) to fill the huge vacuum left by dead giant Demonoid or niche Oink, buzzwise.

    And there aren’t going to be any. The reason is quite simple. No one really clever and capable of developing new and strong ideas and technologies is interested in becoming part of such a shady and boisterous clique. This clique is formed by most BitTorrent site owners and staff, together with most of their coders and biased promoters who have again and again proved to be not only dismayingly incompetent and irresponsible, but also cynical and hypocrite to a nauseating degree. The only professionalism they seem to have graduated in is one of Lies & Rumours.

    And if P2P has become P4P (Piracy for Profit) because of them and there seems to be no way out due to the vicious circle it created, including large chunks of the Scene, with some Topsites turned into greedy pay-for-leech machines. And if P4P is all about vanity and lies and fierce competition. And if it has now become a sizable though illicit business with all this unaccountable money and the huge userbases of blind torrentians, then WHY should it not be run by pros?

    I say bring in the pros so at least those hordes of gullible users get some proper privacy and protection against systematic scamming and data mining from their “private trackers” and the whole BitTorrent network.

    However, if BitTorrent management becomes efficient and reliable as a professionally kept service, it will fade away as its interest only resides in the slightly underground aura its users once believed it to have. To make P2P legal is to rob it from its “sex appeal”: no matter what those “politically aware” torrentian voices claim, what they really want is free lunch forever, relatively safe but only if it still feels like a “forbidden fruit”.

  • U R RETARDED’s mum

    [quote comment="285057"][quote comment="285039"][quote comment="284957"][quote comment="284924"]obviously this company don’t understand the point of peer to peer.[/quote]

    obviously this poster don’t understand the point of VPN.[/quote]

    p2p = free, this service = not, comprende?[/quote]

    It’s VPN and gigabit ports costs money. Comprende? Fucking imbecile.

    BTW, YOU CAN SEED WITH VPN YOU FUCKING MORONS!

    And this VPN totally owns that piece of shit Relakks.[/quote]

    I know what VPN is dipshit, I fucking run one you prick. But using one for general usage such as downloading your latest gay porn video is just plain dumb.Hence why this article is just purely ad spam when this site is all about torrents. Now fuck off under your hole you appear to of come out of.

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  • Sigh

    Fatal error: Cannot redeclare checkemailorpassword() (previously declared in /home/tfreedom/public_html/scripts/lib.php:4) in /home/tfreedom/public_html/scripts/lib.php on line 4

    Looks mickey mouse. I wouldn’t give them money.

  • Sigh

    “Today, there is a nexus of Schumpeterian creative destruction to be found at the asymptotic fringe of intellectual property law and networking technology. Everyone says there is an ‘arms race’ between the unwashed filesharing masses and the forces of Big Brother – we like to think of ourselves as the suitcase nuke for the little guys.”

    Obnoxious prick. No surprise he calls himself “Faust”. Maybe he’ll sell you all out to the RIAA to save his arse like Faust did with the devil hahaha.

  • Yeah :|

    Paying 4 warez ?
    LOL!

  • SPiN

    [quote comment="285425"]Ok, I just got it up and running with Leopard.

    It wasn’t easy… if you want to find out what I did, send me an email to tf-stevenknightswood[dot]net.

    My results are not surprising at all… yes, you WILL lose speed on your connection to your machine, because you are diverting your (now encrypted) traffic from the US to NL and then somewhere else.

    My connection to the internet is pretty fast. Speak Easy’s speed test normally shows it as 6866 down / 3424 up, but while connected to TF it is only 3268 down / 969 up… so I lose a *LOT* of speed.

    But it is something that I can live with during those times when I need anonymity.

    Peace.[/quote]

    What’s your full email? I’d love to know how you got it set up since I’m experiencing some trouble. Thanks!

  • FuckThisShit

    Who the fuck pays for what they steal online? Might as well just buy the cd/dvd/album knowing the money goes to the people who actually made the product, not the schiesters who set up some bit torrent site and had the nerve to fucking charge money over it.

    Get fucked, torrent freedom. Hope you go down in a firey blaze.

  • thenotsojollyroger

    i find that shallow and pedantic.
    i tot chickens ate cheese!
    i think humanity and fish can co-exist peacefully!
    the ring came off my pudding can, use my penknife my good man its monorail!
    monorail!
    MONNNNOOOOOOOOOOOORAIL!

  • Anonymous

    @FTS, amen brotha. Who pays for what they steal? If I could pay for a service, I’d go the legal route, really. I also agree with paying the artists rather than the pirate! That is completely ridiculous. They are the junkies on the steal corner selling pirated DVDs with no lables and pour sharpie skills.

    Once membership fees come into play, it is no longer about the community and more about turning a profit.

  • Koolaid

    But then, Faust is all about making profit and to hell with who is paying.

    File sharing has, and always will be free. Shitesters like Faust are just proffiting from dumb net users fear of the RIAA. Wake up people! You have more chance of being struck by lightning than be sued for stealing warez and movies.

    Would you really want to put your money into the pocket of a drug smuggler/animal molester/scam artist/narc? since Faust is all 4 of these.

  • Koolaid

    …and, just when you thought you were safe?

    http://www.torrentfreedom.com/server-status/

    So much for anonymous eh?

  • Jean ValJean

    [quote comment="285621"]…and, just when you thought you were safe?

    http://www.torrentfreedom.com/server-status/

    So much for anonymous eh?[/quote]

    Ahahaha

  • Koolaid

    never mind. Its a forbidden link now, but a few minutes ago, that oage revealed all the IP addresses connected to torrentfreedom. And he seriously wants people to pay for such amauter security? Oh please say this whole page here is a bad joke!

  • Fred

    For those interested, I just viewed the Apache logs of his server using a link on digg.

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  • U R RETARDED’s mum

    well, thats pretty much blown his whole operation down the toilet.. oh dear.

  • Bubba

    I AINT DOIN THIS THEY DONT HAVE NO SIGNUP FOR GAY REDNECKS… THIS IS A VIOLATION OF MY RIGHTS!

  • Koolaid

    Im sure one of Faust’s animal molesting friends could give you free membership Bubba,or maybe one of his drug traffiking friends. Take your pick!

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a question about this service, relakks, and others that are sure to come in the future. The assumption is that they protect you, because if the cops come in and say – give me all your logs – you’re safe because they don’t have anything in their logs. But… if you’re sharing the same IP as folks that use the service to browse kiddy pr0n and animal pr0n and all that (who would be naturally attracted to a service like this as well)… then the cops reeaaally have justification to get a warrant to come crashing in on the server room with full access to do whatever they want. so, then, they just snoop in on the traffic at the server and BAM. you’re busted anyway.

    just a thought.

  • Mr. Reality

    Oh. My. God.
    Sorry to break it for you but I see two fundamental problems with this service.

    1. So, you *trust* these guys?
    How do you know this is not some
    RIAA sponsored initiative to
    monitor/catch a lot of
    filesharers at once?

    2. You may not like the laws but
    don’t assume law enforcement
    is stupid.

    I’ll elaborate on 2 and explain how
    this technical implementation is
    trivially broken:

    1. Arrest all staff

    2. Leave the platform running so
    users don’t get suspicious.

    3. Analyze the platform

    4. Add your own monitoring code
    to the software that creates
    a nice logfile, linking real
    ip addresses to real filenames.

    This has been done before (back in the BBS days) and should work in this case just as well.

    Remember admins: Law enforcement doesn’t have to ask for your logfiles. They can put you to jail
    and alter your software to create their own logfiles.

    Remember kids: Your traffic passes through their servers. Whoever owns the servers can watch and analyze it.

    Remember everybody: The *only* known approach to true anonymity on the internet would be onion routing as implemented by TOR and freenet.
    Unfortunately the overhead of this
    approach makes sharing of large files rather infeasible.

  • Anonymous

    If you really want to understand who Faust or Fausty is, then look up Doug Spink. He’s a total scumbag…

  • Funny
  • PA

    Have you seen the perl script that is used for starting the vpn at a unix? Urls like http://www.torrentfreedom.com/scripts/version.php?username=$username&password=$password with the following wget make me nervous. Where’s the ssl getting things like configuration or userkey?

    Security? Kind of plaintext login is very very poor! Goog luck doing a better job!

    PA

  • Koolaid

    [quote comment="286005"]Crazyness they left server status up, looks like they took it down. Here is a google cache of it: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:d4ARg-esnQUJ:www.torrentfreedom.com/server-status/+http://www.torrentfreedom.com/server-status/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us/quote

    Hahahahaha.

    Fausts arrogance seems directly proportional to his technical incompetence.

    Faust,time you found another occupation man.You really suck at this one.Maybe you should stick to drug smuggling.

    Oh wait!You suck at that too.

    Maybe a paid informant to the FBI?Yeah,thats more your skill.

  • Right On, Mr. Reality!

    [quote comment="285863"]Oh. My. God.
    Sorry to break it for you but I see two fundamental problems with this service.

    1. So, you *trust* these guys?
    How do you know this is not some
    RIAA sponsored initiative to
    monitor/catch a lot of
    filesharers at once?

    2. You may not like the laws but
    don’t assume law enforcement
    is stupid.

    I’ll elaborate on 2 and explain how
    this technical implementation is
    trivially broken:

    1. Arrest all staff

    2. Leave the platform running so
    users don’t get suspicious.

    3. Analyze the platform

    4. Add your own monitoring code
    to the software that creates
    a nice logfile, linking real
    ip addresses to real filenames.

    This has been done before (back in the BBS days) and should work in this case just as well.

    Remember admins: Law enforcement doesn’t have to ask for your logfiles. They can put you to jail
    and alter your software to create their own logfiles.

    Remember kids: Your traffic passes through their servers. Whoever owns the servers can watch and analyze it.

    Remember everybody: The *only* known approach to true anonymity on the internet would be onion routing as implemented by TOR and freenet.
    Unfortunately the overhead of this
    approach makes sharing of large files rather infeasible.[/quote]

    Finally an intelligent comment. Mr. Reality is absolutely correct. And you don’t have to go back to the BBS days for an example. There’s a much more recent case that followed those exact steps. Two words: Elite Torrents. After the raids, the FBI and Justice Dept. took over the servers and kept them running to track all connections coming in or out. And you bet your ass they kept very detailed logs. How many people connected to it before it became well known that the Feds were operating it? Quite a few, I’m sure. Now, of course it was a bit easier for them to take control since the servers were on US soil (Idiots!), but the point is that whether it’s Norway or Timbucktoo or Antarctica, the steps Mr. Reality pointed out are not just possible but have been carried out.

    As for true security, the best you could hope for is a small out-of-the-public-eye private firm that is pro-torrent or filesharing-friendly to very quietly offer this type of service strictly through word of mouth. Standing in the middle of the town square, beating your chest, and trumpeting loudly (and obnoxiously) to all that you are “unbeatable” or “unreachable” will accomplish nothing but to draw interest from the exact parties you are supposed to protect your customers from. It’s like those corporations that arrogantly proclaim that their company’s computer system is “hacker proof” and “uncrackable”. It takes either a big set of balls or extreme stupidity to paint a large target on your back. I would tend to think that it’s usually the latter.

  • adf

    why isn’t vpnout.com listed as an alternative. It’s been doing the above for months now…

  • Right On, Mr. Reality!

    Sorry to all for the double post. Word Press is interfering and delaying again. My apologies.

  • oh yeah
  • priss

    Currently the Malaysian gov. is fighting for its political survival in the upcoming election but if they win they will go back to kissing the MPAA’s ass.
    I’ll be needing a VPN that won’t give up my ID for downloading anime or tv series that can’t be seen or cost $50> to buy the DVD just for few ep.

  • Anonymous

    Just another bad Robin Hood. Not buying it.

  • Anon

    This shits getting weird. torrentfreedom.com goldens.com trueonlinesecurity.com All the same people, all the same service, anyone got a clue as to whats going on? oh and all the animal stuff at goldens.com is sorta creeps considering what else this guy fausty has going for him. And finally to clear something up that has been said a few times in this forum. You pay via paypal, to eliminate them from seeing your creditcard and stuff. So in theory this all looks good, but there are still a few things that bug me.

  • Turtle

    Hey, whoever has gotten the free links (and not posers who are just advertising for torrentFreedom);
    if there’s any North American college students amoung you: is it really that successful in getting through the campus throttler?

  • Turtle

    [quote comment="285573"]But then, Faust is all about making profit and to hell with who is paying.

    File sharing has, and always will be free. Shitesters like Faust are just proffiting from dumb net users fear of the RIAA. Wake up people! You have more chance of being struck by lightning than be sued for stealing warez and movies.

    Would you really want to put your money into the pocket of a drug smuggler/animal molester/scam artist/narc? since Faust is all 4 of these.[/quote]

    1. Correct, there is a very low chance of being sued for downloading media; but there is a 100% chance [read: is currently occuring] that lots of colleges and businesses currently mass-throttle all [read ALL, not just bitTorrent] traffic.

    2. If he is this creep, then stay the hell away from him; but if you make these allegations, then justify them; give at least a reasonable SOURCE for your allegations; otherwise, you may well just be mafIAA trying to keep users from something that works, or is almost working.

  • SomeoneWhoKnows

    Actually I signed up for the service just to see. So far it is not working on Linux (Ubuntu) with the latest OpenVPN_2.1_rc7as promised (if anyone has it working post your details).

    I filed a support ticket. I am guessing I will need to wait until Monday for a reply. But so far from what I am reading the idea is that logging is something they do not do….if that is the case WHY DO I HAVE IN MY ACCOUNT DETAILS A COUNTER OF HOW MUCH I DOWNLOAD!!??

    So presumably logging MUST be happening somewhere if this is the case. As it is I tried this out just to see if it is what it claims to be. So far, it is not very easy to setup for anyone but windows users and even then I have my doubts.

    And IF indeed the person in charge has the record they do, I can’t really say I trust them very much. And shame on torrentfreak for not doing any fact checking or backgrounds on this guy. Seeing as he ratted out his old cronies, there is a good chance this is a front for the RIAA. Since I have not actually USED the service for downloading anything I am ok :D.

  • SomeoneWhoKnows

    Use Relakks or one of the other services listed. This service is not Free as stated. It was free and only for a month to the 50 victims that got on. This was pure marketing and likely a scheme.

  • Koolaid1

    [quote comment="286295"][quote comment="285573"]But then, Faust is all about making profit and to hell with who is paying.

    File sharing has, and always will be free. Shitesters like Faust are just proffiting from dumb net users fear of the RIAA. Wake up people! You have more chance of being struck by lightning than be sued for stealing warez and movies.

    Would you really want to put your money into the pocket of a drug smuggler/animal molester/scam artist/narc? since Faust is all 4 of these.[/quote]

    1. Correct, there is a very low chance of being sued for downloading media; but there is a 100% chance [read: is currently occuring] that lots of colleges and businesses currently mass-throttle all [read ALL, not just bitTorrent] traffic.

    2. If he is this creep, then stay the hell away from him; but if you make these allegations, then justify them; give at least a reasonable SOURCE for your allegations; otherwise, you may well just be mafIAA trying to keep users from something that works, or is almost working.[/quote]

    Have you not even read this thread? I think the exposure of the lack of security of this “service” is more than enough.

    I dont see why i have to do your research FOR you.It isnt rocket science to connect the dots together and find out for yourself that this guy is indeed, who people here say he is, and what he is “into”, and his criminial “affiliations”.

    I posted on here to confirm allegations made previously by another poster here because people need to be aware of WHO this guy is, for their owned damned safety and security. I could have quite easily left it alone and said nothing. Its no skin off my nose, and if you had even half a brain, you would see by the posts alone on this thread ( as well as the interview with Faust ) that he is indeed an over-confident, arrogant and evil psychopath who is just interested in making a few bucks.

    And lets not even mention the EXPOSED security issues relating to this service, that has been documented on this thread ( and not to mention still in googles cache ).

    Source? Just open your eyes is all you need to do.

  • Anonymous

    any words from TF??

  • Koolaide

    Apparently not.

    Im still waiting for Torrentfreak guys to post a formal statement concerning this issue.

    Most people tend to trust this site for its news and reviews of such things, so it would only be right for the TFreak guys to put the record straight and either confirm or dismiss what has been said here, for their users safety if nothing more.

    If they fail to do this, then you, as the readers, should be outraged and send in your discontent viz email to wake these guys up. By publishing the article in the first place, they have opened up innocent readers here to real danger and a risk of them losing their hard earned bucks to Faust.

    How about it Enigmax, do we get a statement from you or what?

  • ZOMG

    You know, I was reading all the bestiality stuff with a grain of salt …

    … until I clicked on the “goldens.com” site.

    Because nothing says “We Are Secure and trustworthy” like a giant graphic of a dog’s nutsack on the front page.

    And there’s, like, muscle dog graphics everywhere. In the background. On the documents.

    Christ.

  • Koolade

    “Because nothing says “We Are Secure and trustworthy” like a giant graphic of a dog’s nutsack on the front page.”

    Hahahaha.

    Priceless:D

  • SomeoneWhoKnows

    I tend to not take comments in a forum thread seriously. It would be nice to back them up with real sources. There are plenty of other more credible sources. A google search certainly provided that.

    I can’t take people seriously who quote other peoples comments.

    But you do make a point with all googleing. At anyrate I am not worried as I am covered. If this turns out to be a scam I am out 17 bucks. I can live with that. It was worth trying just to expose. But I also noticed there were alot of comments back in the day when secureIX and Relakks started too. So only time will really tell what the scoop is.

    The ONLY thing people have posted about this guy is that his name is Douglas Spink. Where is the actual proof that he is indeed the person running TorrentFreedom? All I see are people accusing with no actual linking or proof of any kind save their own word.

    Then there is are the bigger idiots who take the hearsay and spit it back out as facts. Their site looks crappy granted. If the service works then great. I dont really much care about the site unless it is working. The fact that noone has taken it down means that it has to have some measure of security.

  • Koolad3

    Give me time SomeoneWhoKnows.Im on the case already.Ill take it down before the week is out.

  • Anonymous

    Proof that “Faust”, the owner of TorrentFreedom, is Douglas Spink? Easy.

    Goldens.com is hosted on the same IP address (81.173.31.80) as TorrentFreedom, and is a very similar service. The WHOIS is identical as well; it’s pretty obvious that they’re run by the same person.

    Goldens.com used to be “Timberline Retrievers”, a breeder of Golden Retrievers. There are a number of references (easily found using Google) to doug@goldens.com as “Douglas Spink”.

    The Goldens.com FAQ (http://goldens.com/faq.php) specifically names “Fausty” as the operator of the site.

    “Fausty” is well-known in animal sex forums. One relevant link is http://www.elitezoo.com/Inferno-Backand33-t1928.html&pid=38876&mode=threaded (WARNING: may contain explicit content), on which a user named “Fausty” posts with the subtitle “goldens.com Chief Zoo Officer”. “Zoo” is short for “zoophile”, or “animal molester”.

    Finally, Spink’s arrest for cocaine smuggling is documented at http://alex.golub.name/log/2005/04/02/spink-pleads-innocent-only-might-have-slept-with-that-retriever/

  • Hawt

    ”Because nothing says “We Are Secure and trustworthy” like a giant graphic of a dog’s nutsack on the front page.”

    haha yep thats classic.

  • spell it out

    I call Ackbar on SomeoneWhoKnows.

    Torrentfreedom.com = 81.173.31.80
    goldens.com = 81.173.31.80

    http://81.173.31.80 = a generic Cpanel host.

    Torrentfreedom.com:
    ———————–
    Administrative Contact:
    Old Blood Investments, Ltd.
    DNS1: NS1.BANEKI.ORG
    DNS2: NS2.BANEKI.ORG

    Goldens.com:
    ———————–
    Registrant:
    Old Blood Investments, Ltd.
    Administrative Contact:Spink,Douglas
    DNS1: NS1.BANEKI.ORG
    DNS2: NS2.BANEKI.ORG

    Baneki.org
    ———————–
    Registrant:
    Old Blood Investments, Ltd.
    (same canadian address as the above)

    Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :
    Old Blood Investments, Ltd.
    ds@wrinko.net

    wrinko.net = 81.173.31.80, and http://wrinko.net == goldens.com

    http://goldens.com/contact.php == “Fausty, our CTO/CZO:fausty@goldens.com”

    I won’t bother linking to all the previously est. Google links re: dogs. Archive.org has wrinko.net.

    So, yes, that’s too many red flags.

    Hey TF admins – where’s your reaction?

  • Another thing

    Why would this/relakks/others stop ISPs from throttling? I imagine that there’s nothing that looks like a full speed torrent connection over VPN in the eyes of an adept network engineer. If it’s a) massive bandwidth b) long periods of time c) encrypted… throttle it. Rocket science?

  • investment oinker

    Run a reverse IP and you get goldenvpn.com == rellakks.com == trueonlinesecurity.com == findno.com etc etc.

    Companies house has no “Old Blood Investments Ltd”. Dearest TF you’ve been had. Do you homework next time.

    Subpoena my Tor outproxy :o)

  • Kooladez

    SomeoneWhoKnows :

    You are clearly a complete dick sir!

    There, as I said, do your own damned research, and low and behold, Spell It Out did, and hey presto!

    Thanks Spell It Out. Saves me the task :D

  • Anonymous

    @183: Wow, he’s typosquatting on relakks (he registered the same domain with two Ls) too. Further proof of his up-to-no-goodness?

  • Lopa
  • Kooladezz

    Lopa: are you some kind of retard?

  • investment oinker

    His name is pretty easy to find if you reverse IP the adjacent machine he controls.

  • San

    NO I WILL NOT PAY A DIME TO GET AN ACCOUNT FOR TORRENT WEBSITE!

    I WILL USER PEER GURADIAN IF I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MY PIRACY!

    ASKING PEOPLE TO PAY FOR IS LIKE ROBBING!

    TORRENTFREEDOM SUX! FUCK THEM!

  • Chris

    Well I don’t know if TF is to blame for this articel. Its just a report. There is no statement which evaluates the site or gives any advice to use it. From this point of view it holds up the niveau which I am used to read on this great site. It’s a new ‘service’ related to bittorrent and this is the place where I wan’t to read those news. If the service is crap is up to you. I really enjoy to read all those comments, thanks to everyone who dug into this.

    @ TorrentFreak: keep up the good work folks!

  • SomeOneWhoKnows

    @Kooladez

    While you are calling people names like a 15 year old, let me give you an update.

    FIRST I gave them the benefit of the doubt. This was all I was doing in my comments.

    WELL I had issues with the service. So I raised a ticket. In the ticket I asked some questions that basically has conifrmed a few of the things many have been saying. I gave them MORE than enough info to know where to go with my issue.

    What became really obvious to me is that they do not know openvpn (which is what they use) AT ALL or they would have had the answer for me. This was a relativly easy question for their tech support to answer (I got the answer myself)

    I am not going to go into specifics on it as I am still seeing this through. You can call Akbar all you want. But unlike TF and a number of other people I went the extra mile and dugg out more info that at least confirmed the speculation everyone is posting.

    AT LEAST NOW THERE IS SOME PROOF for me at least. But I will show you how to expose them even further.
    My question was simple and one I could have answered myself. I just chose to be a n00b about it and post it to them and see what they would say after reading so many of the comments here.

    For the moment I am keeping my “proof” vague enough that they might speculate as to who I am but not know who I am. Again this is a CYA thing. I am taking steps to make sure IF they try to pull something it will blowup in their faces. @Kooladez Calling me a dick for actually investigating claims people are making says alot more about you than anything.

    Giving people the benefit of the doubt then proving them right or wrong makes more sense. In this case the community nailed that there is likely some skeevy practices going on. They certainly are not what they claim to be. Their tech support basically showed me that.

    Whois can be misleading these days. Once it was more definitive on who owned what. Now that info can be altered and hidden and can have 3rd parties register on behalf of the actual registrant. Colos can often clump info like this. The owner of these domains could also be doing it on behalf of someone else. Considering the purpose of the service in itself would need someone who is dubious (like an animal fucker and convicted drug felon) to help them run it and keep the MAFIAA from tracking it down. So the part of them not knowing who owns what and all that could actually be true. The problems I found are with the implementation of the service vs technical knowledge of the service. If their tech support does not know what the hell they are talking about with a basic question…then I have no reason to trust that they will know what the hell they are doing in implementing it since it sounds like only 4 or 5 guys are running the show.

    That all said, I will agree that TorrentFreedom is NOT what it promises. The sites security practices, the obvious lack of knowledge of openvpn in my own experiences with them (you can put this to the test too with your own “issues” if you use Linux).

    So at least for my part I am convinced they are not what they say they are. And now that I have armed you with some more info you can at least take that info and provide further proof for yourself and quit calling people dicks for taking an innocent until proven guilty approach. There are other instances besides this one where the registrant is a scumbag who actually is the reg of a legit site. It is good to at least investigate and get the scoop.

    This is what TorrentFreak SHOULD have done, but did not. Seems to me that this site is just a fanboi site for torrenting and hyping things without any substance. This was the case here at least. Hopefully they learn from this.

  • Anonymous

    Nobody gives a shit, at the end of the day its a dodgy site run by a dodgy person. Whether he’s been sticking his dick up a dogs arse or dressing in bra and panties I don’t want to give my custom to a person like that.

  • Anonymous

    grandeeeeeeee

  • Slick

    Okay, there’s a helluva a lot of garbage in this thread but what’s been uncovered really merits anyone taking a strong second look.

    Read post numbers:
    157
    158
    169
    170
    179
    181
    183

    There are others, but most are flame warring between posts

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  • Fausty

    I seem to have misplaced my secret decoder ring to send operational messages to our contact at the MPAARIAACIANSA – does anyone have a spare?

    SWK is cute when she’s angry :-)

    This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you’re my only hope!

    Peace,

    fausty@torrentfreedom.net

  • Wibble

    I don’t care if Fausty IS a pig fucker.. I don’t care if he has armies of naked children running around in marjuana field and rubs the THC of their bodies to make hash, I don’t even care if he has a penchant for doing unspeakable things to the freshly deceased corpses of old ladies.

    If he can (and it still hasn’t been proven to anyone’s satisfaction) provide a completely 100% annonymous, untracked, unmonitored and unlogged service for me to get my fix of TV and other things then I’ll use it, and be quite happy to hand him money to do it…

    Quite frankly I’m more disgusted at the so called legitimate authorities actions in voiding freedom of speech and expression, the voilation of our inalienable right to privacy and the criminalisation of the perpetrators of minor misdemeanors.

    Fuk it.. Faustys type of scum has become the new Robin Hood.

    Pass me my fiddle.

  • Fred

    [quote="Fausty"]I seem to have misplaced my secret decoder ring to send operational messages to our contact at the MPAARIAACIANSA – does anyone have a spare?

    SWK is cute when she’s angry :-)

    This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you’re my only hope!

    Peace, [/quote]

    Speaking as one once bitten, I can tell you this is typical Fausty. He will ridicule the least likely/provable accusation and completely avoid every legit question of competence.
    He moved to Canada after investors, creditors, and customers started closing in on his last scheme. I wonder where he’ll hide this time?

  • Koolad-3

    Im all for tracking down his past disgruntled buisness associates and sending them in his direction.

    Yeah, I think I will make that my mission for the month.

    Faust, Fausty, Doug or whatever other name you go by, your arrogance is catching up with you quickly. Go crawl back under what scummy rock you crawled out from under. You arnt welcome here.

  • Koolad5

    Do you know something Wibble? You need a brain transplant. The one you have is clearly not working.

    I mean, pay this freak so you can watch TV episodes? Why dont you just get cable!

    I swear, there are some real intellectually challenged people who comment on here, and Wibble, you are one of them ( or prehaps, Faust himself ).

  • spirontas

    [Faust: Using TorrentFreedom for online security is like bringing a machine-gun to a knife fight. . . it might not be 'fair,' but the outcome isn't going to be in question either.]

    unless you’re up against Chuck Norris mate…

  • Wibble

    @ Koolad5..

    Umm.. no…I’d pay this freak to dl TV and other things (you DID read that bit didn’t you?).. completely RISK FREE.

    ..so with you’re inability to read and understand the point of the post, and as you don’t even bother to acknowledge my comment about the comparative damage to society caused by one party over the other, I have a difficult time accepting your comment of ‘brain transplants’, as having more relevance to this discussion than mine.

  • Koolad4

    Wibble, Get over your fucking self already!

    If you think Faust’s service is ‘risk free’ then you are an even bigger imbecile than I took you for in the first place.

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  • Wibble

    Yet again, your ignorance and lack of attention proves my point Koolad5..

    If you can’t even be bothered to READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING POST.. then it is utterly pointless trying to engage you in a discussion with ANY meaning, because no doubt you would be unable to do that either.

  • Hash

    fuck you fausty you piece of shit. Go back to your dog fucking forum.

  • Koolades

    [quote comment="289739"]Yet again, your ignorance and lack of attention proves my point Koolad5..

    If you can’t even be bothered to READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING POST.. then it is utterly pointless trying to engage you in a discussion with ANY meaning, because no doubt you would be unable to do that either.[/quote]

    Funny that. I was thinking the same thing.

  • NoName

    Hi all,

    Anyway to get Torrent Freedom to ignore one programm I don’t want to go through the VPN?

    Thanks

  • jake

    has torrent freak given any official response yet?
    (i didnt feel like wading through all this flaming bs to find out)

  • Anonymous

    Meh. I’m all for anyone who’ll stick an EFF-like finger in the eye of my ISP. I’m signing up month by month to check it out, not like it’s a huge risk.

  • Cirk

    any news on the torrentfreedom scam thingie ?

  • c0ncerned

    looks like both vpntunnel and torrentfreedom services are down…..possible april fools

  • vice

    nah it aint aprisl fools. its working fine for me. and its working good !

  • jesus

    Sweet lord.

    goldens redesigned their website, and /they animated the damn dog/.

    You literally click on a dog’s ass to download the VPN installer.

    Holy fuck, stay away.

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  • Fausty

    [quote comment="352460"]Sweet lord.

    goldens redesigned their website, and /they animated the damn dog/.

    You literally click on a dog’s ass to download the VPN installer.

    Holy fuck, stay away.[/quote]

    Glad you like it – we designed it just for you, Mr. ‘of Nazareth.’ :-)

    Peace,

    Fausty
    fausty@torrentfreedom.net

  • TheConfigurator

    This is obviously a honeypot trap.
    For goodness sakes, do not download it expecting it to hide you from the corporations.

  • VPN User

    For you people who do not understand the reason for using a VPN, it is used to encrypt your traffic so that neither your ISP nor a website will know who you are or where you live, unless you give them some personal information.

    More and more people are using VPN’s out of basic privacy concerns.

    If you think Torrent Freedom’s VPN is too expensive, then you know nothing about a good VPN. From what I hear, Relakks leaks really bad and is very slow and inconsistent.

    I use Xerobank which is $35 a month, but I look at other services. http://xerobank.com/ Torrent Freedom is very resonably priced for the type of service that they offer. And it appears that the competetion is getting pretty darn pissed off…..judging by many of these posts, hehe! This is good. Competition is good.

  • VPN User

    I meant to say that your ISP will not see your traffic and the website you go to will not know who you are or where you live.

  • ?

    …no new “private tracker” as they call it (mind the quotes, they are meant to represent their demoralisation) to fill the huge vacuum left by dead giant Demonoid or niche Oink, buzzwise.

    You just have 0 clue, and it’s better that way

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