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U.S. Anti-Piracy Police Kept Secret From The Public

Last month the MPAA and RIAA made a deal with all the major Internet providers in the United States to systematically hunt down file-sharers. The new “Copyright Alerts” system will directly affect millions of Internet users, but thus far the participating parties have refused to disclose which monitoring company will act as anti-piracy detectives. It’s time for the big reveal.

dtecnetStarting in a few months, the copyright police will start to track down ‘pirates’ as part of an agreement with all major U.S. Internet providers.

All parties agreed to warn copyright infringers that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings the ISP may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down the offender’s connection.

The new system is a formalized version of the existing takedown system already operated by copyright holders, and was announced under the name ‘Copyright Alerts‘.

When the agreement was made public in July, two questions immediately came to mind. The first one concerns where data on alleged infringers will be collected, by whom and how long it will be stored. Secondly, which company will be tasked with ‘spying’ on millions of BitTorrent users.

During the last month TorrentFreak tried to get answers on these vital questions, but to our surprise it was impossible to get a response through the official channels. On multiple occasions we contacted the RIAA, A2IM, the Center for Copyright Information, the PR firm of Center for Copyright Information and participating ISPs, but none of these entities were willing to provide more information on the record.

Only when we contacted people off the record we were able to find out more. Independently of each other, two sources involved in copyright enforcement informed us that DtecNet is the company that will be tracking unauthorized file-sharing under the new copyright alert system.

So who are DtectNet and why is their alleged appointment being kept from the public?

Looking at the history of DtecNet we find that the company originally stems from the anti-piracy lobby group Antipiratgruppen, which represents the music and movie industry in Denmark. And there are more direct ties to the entertainment industry. Kristian Lakkegaard, one of DtecNet’s employees, used to work for the RIAA’s global partner IFPI.

Last year the Danish company was acquired by the US brand protection firm MarkMonitor, but continues to operate under its own name. As an established anti-piracy company, DtecNet already works closely with the RIAA and MPAA. In addition, they are responsible for collecting data on copyright infringers as part of the Irish three-strikes program.

Although little is known about the accuracy of DtecNet’s tracking software, TorrentFreak has previously pointed out that the company knows very little about how BitTorrent works. A whitepaper published by DtecNet claimed that BitTorrent traffic had plummeted and was littered with painful errors and false assumptions. The report in question has since been retracted (copy here), indicating that in hindsight DtecNet wasn’t very happy with it either.

DtecNet’s parent company MarkMonitor also made the headlines with a report that branded the file-hosting site RapidShare as the leading digital piracy site. RapidShare, a company that has gone to extreme lengths both in and outside of court to emphasize its legitimacy, was outraged and threatened to sue MarkMonitor for defamation. MarkMonitor at the time told TorrentFreak that their research was completely independent, but with revenues coming from both the RIAA and MPAA their objectivity has to be in doubt.

So now we know that DtecNet will likely be the monitoring company used for the copyright alerts program, one of our questions has been answered. However, we still don’t know what will happen to the information DtecNet collects and where this will be stored. For the sake of transparency, we hope that the Center for Copyright Information will be more open about this in the future.

In a final attempt to get DtecNet’s appointment officially confirmed TorrentFreak contacted Te Smith, Vice President of Communications at MarkMonitor, who would not confirm or deny our findings.

“As a company, our policy is never to comment on whether someone (or some company, organization or group) is or isn’t a client,” Te informed us.

But with two sources pointing at DtecNet we are confident that they will be tracking U.S. file-sharers under the copyright alert program. Nevertheless, this secrecy does raise new questions that are perhaps just as interesting as the others we’ve asked previously.

Why would DtecNet’s involvement be kept a secret from the public? Why isn’t there more openness about how the personal information of millions of alleged file-sharers is to be handled? What do the groups behind these copyright alerts have to hide?

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  • Guest

    The entertainment industry is full of pederasts:

    http://scoop.today.com/_news/2011/08/11/7348578-corey-feldman-says-pedophilia-is-hollywoods-biggest-problem

    Let’s kill them all.

    • Grok

      You should remember that there’s a difference between a pedophile and a pederast. A pedophile is one who has attraction for prepubescent people, while a pederast is one who has actually engaged in sexual activity with a prepubescent person.

      One of these words is libel/slander that could land you in a lot of trouble. Know the fucking difference.

      I’m not saying that I like the entertainment industry at all. I don’t.

      • bbb

        what’s there to slander my ass about? your a timid pussy

      • korG

        It would only be libel/slander if an individual’s name was used.

      • Anonymous

        if it were true, would it be libel/slander?

        • CEO

          I’m ashamed to tell you this… but it’s true

          CEO of The entertainment industry

        • CEO

          I’m ashamed to tell you this… but it’s true

          CEO of The entertainment industry

        • Dndfreak2

          Pedophiles or Ephebophilies?

  • Guest

    Anonymous!

    Target: http://dtecnet.com/

  • Guest

    Anonymous!

    Target: http://dtecnet.com/

    • Kltjjlk

      Anon is going to have a field day with their shitty website. Their scripts and templates are loaded from an /Admin/ directory (http://dtecnet.com/Admin/Public/HTML401TransQuirks.html) , they have debugging mode turned on (http://dtecnet.com/Admin/Public/Logoff.aspx), and they have an OPEN SENDMAIL script (can send mail to anyone with any sender/message, etc by modifying form before post) here: http://dtecnet.com/EN/Get%20Trial%20Here.aspx .

      And I haven’t even begun looking…

      • gae

        keep it quiet then, don;t want them fixing things just yet.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        I’m not surprised. No IT tech with genuine skills would be insane enough to make the guarantee that you could track bittorrent users accurately én másse. Meaning that what we have is a company full of semi-incompetents ordered around by mid-management PHB’s who will get their asses handed to them by the truly skilled once they start their business.

        I suppose it all looks good on paper until you realize that the assets they’re investing aren’t good enough to make a difference.

        Personally I’m reminded of the Indian Aiplex fiasco here.

  • Systemfail

    oh boy this will only spark a revolution they can’t handle…

  • Carlton

    Something tells me that Anonymous is about to GO MEDIEVAL on DtecNet’s ass!

    Greedy, back-stabbing bastards.Anyone remember First4Internet, or MediaDefender? They got pounded in the ass pretty hard.

    • http://www.facebook.com/wiredcivicex Clayton Johnson

      Anonymous are a bunch of tards. They’ve begun attacking Facebook for banning them for conducting illegal activity on Facebook’s groups section. They’ve reduced themselves to nothing more than cyber terrorists and packet kiddies at this point. What ever they used to think they stood for, is no longer. They are no better than Chinese hackers now.

      • http://www.facebook.com/wiredcivicex Clayton Johnson

        PS) They aren’t so anonymous. If you go into their chat room most of their personal information is pretty easy to come up with.

        • Guest

          Oh, it was you who doxed Topiary, I did not know. Big respect.

        • Anon

          You don’t know.

          1) Most people on “their” chat room are not part of any anonymous operations. Most people participating in anonymous operations never visit the chat room. To give an idea the biggest anon operation against the Egyptian gov had an estimated over 8 million computers while an IRC Chanel can not accommodate more than few thousand connections.

          3) Some people had warned the authorities to leave the users of the LOIC canon alone to avoid an escalation. Sure enough, anonymous is responding to the arrest of some LOIC canon users by deploying different ddosing tools. Now one anon computer will be able to crash one big web site anonymously. The next significant anonymous attack might bring down the internet of an entire country by crashing some nods.

          Good luck!

        • Anonymous

          Haha, you think those are the people to fear? The ones that hang in the chat? The handful of preteens that is throwing a tantrum against facebook? lol.

        • Anonymous

          Haha, you think those are the people to fear? The ones that hang in the chat? The handful of preteens that is throwing a tantrum against facebook? lol.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          That. The police can only do that much, arrest casual LOIC users that tend to sympathize with the Anonymous operations.

          Also, the group has been alerting every1 about ‘flag operations’ from the Governments to justify increased surveillance and censorship.

          That’s why we need such groups of (hack)tivism and things like WikiLeaks. Because those in power are hiding behind secrecy and trying to control everything.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          *sigh* no, it isn’t. The personal information you come up with is the one given by “ordinary” temporaries. You can be very certain that not one of the driving people or the hardcore anon crowd is accessible that way.

          If they were, are you claiming that you can come up with such information better than say, the FBI or the pentagon who are actively looking?

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @Anon

          “Sure enough, anonymous is responding to the arrest of some LOIC canon users by deploying different ddosing tools.”

          Yes, apparently someone decided to respond to the escalation by providing a better “network resiliency diagnostics” suite nominally named HOIC. Also available from sourceforge, I believe.

          I wouldn’t call those software suites “ddos tools” though. Any systems tech will have similar software in order to stress-test his own systems, much like any mechanic can be assumed to possess a tool box.

      • An Unwashed Heathen

        I’ll agree with you here.

        Getting banned from FaceFuck, oh boohoo, like that’s something to get butthurt over. NOT! It’s like getting booted from McDonald’s; there’s better eats out there anyway.

        Loading up the LOIC at FaceFuck doesn’t do wonders for Anonymous’ street cred; if anything FaceFuck did them a favor. Anonymous should let it go and carry on with real concerns.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          They’re not going after facebook and never did. They did have an anonop planned for an information campaign to make people aware of facebook’s “privacy” rules – but an attack was never planned nor carried out.

      • Bubba

        Seems that you were butthurt by some of that youth if you continue to share the hoax :)

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        It’s a lie. Read their blog. They are not attacking Facebook.

      • Guest

        I am quite unclear how one’s race/nationality/skin color/cultural background/species/etc plays into one’s proficiency as a hacker…..
        so, if i used the term Honky Hacker, would this be a slur or a badge of honor? what about no better than American hackers or Brazilian hackers or Russian hackers or ….i think you get my drift…Hackers vary in proficiency levels. Where they come from has no bearing upon that…..

        • An Unwashed Heathen

          Oh, I’m not so sure about that. Chinese hackers and Russian hackers appear to be very talented, at least when it comes to trashing a Winbloz computer with malware.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @An Unwashed Heathen

          “Chinese hackers and Russian hackers appear to be very talented, at least when it comes to trashing a Winbloz computer with malware.”

          Trashing a windows computer, short instructions: Press Start.

          “…with malware installed”: Um, yes, it’s carrying either Vista, XP or Windows 7. And running IE natively. That’s like saying an AIDS victim might suffer from a few extra STD’s…

          Granted, windows 7 is better than MS’s previous works but that’s a relative term with much the same meaning as “Cleaner than…say, Djingis Khan’s underwear”.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        You should be a bit more careful. Anonymous have done no such thing. One group of them did start an anonops project in order to make facebook users aware of FB’s privacy policies – but that project was never about attacking facebook.

        However, the project was never officially scrapped and when a triggerhappy journalist came over the initial idea on a forum s/he ran with it, deciding that “Anonymous” was about to descend on Facebook like the wrath of God.

        As far as I know, anonops doesn’t use Facebook to begin with and couldn’t care less. And there have been statements made to that effect by many of the anonymous affiliates.

    • Anon

      Speaking of that. Anyone want the social security numbers of the jackasses who used to run media defender? The spreadsheet is still available…

  • Anonymous

    Only the start of some major mess-ups and future stories.

    Things are not all bad though. The more people they annoy leads more people aware of the issues at stake which leads to more people wanting copyright reform. They are sure to just drive the majority underground and away from BT where they cant be tracked.

    We can guess what follows then.

    • Anaconda

      That.
      The real news on the inside is about why the need to squash the P2P freedoms.
      The studios know the threat to their money stream in the event of copyright reform.
      That is the reason for the constant pressure on (or bribery of) government officials to instigate STATE control, before it might be put into the hands of CIVIL courts.

  • tman

    DtecNet: the same idiots who were slapped down in the iiNet case for flawed methodology. Secondly if public funds are being used to pay DtecNet, they should be named as the company behind this. Thridly everyone should go get a VPN and see how that works out for the MAFIAA.

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  • Jeff Bekcer

    I LOVE seeing my tax dollars spent to fund inane and idiotic ventures of rich old white people!

    • Anaconda

      Hey, ‘rich old white people’ make the world go round…
      or spend their lives dreaming of shafting you up the ass.

      And not much inbetween/

  • Him

    how many times already has their software/methodology been shown to be flawed? 300 false accusations in Ireland for a start. i wonder how many times they will be accusing innocent people before there are serious questions asked?

  • Ricardo1337

    The next domestic war following the war on drugs will be the war on piracy. Adding millions of new prisoners. =)

  • Brandon

    So is this DtecNet going to be sending out free pieces of toilet paper to everybody?

  • Curtis A. DeHart II

    Set up honey pots. Update your random META data sets and lets share fake files to see where it leads them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

    My first thought was also that Anonymous is going to fuck http://dtecnet.com/ up for the people!

    It is a sad when it feels like they are the last hope for any kind of retribution.

    If they want to act anonymously that’s fine, but we need to step out of the shadows and be willing to speak up for what we believe in. Our voices are powerless without the name behind it. A hydra doesn’t need masks. It’s a fucking hydra.

  • Guest

    Looked at the http://dtecnet.com/. Can someone explain why this girl with funny tattoo on her forehead is messing with Africa?

    • Anonymous

      No idea but clearly she has pushed the majority of Africa up by the coast of China and Russia.

      It guess it makes goods shipments easier and plenty of cheap workers in return. Then if the USA and Russia ever fire on each other then Africa is where the bombs land if they miss.

      And her forehead tattoo is actually South America which has also been relocated several hundred miles westwards.

      • Danny

        She has flipped the whole world back to front. Crazy bitch!

        Also I think she is the twin of Gorbachev with that tatoo!

  • http://www.facebook.com/chronoss.uha1 Chronoss Uha

    ya mean like the 200+ fbi agents in Canada that while they have no jurisdiction operate above the law?

  • Guest

    Continue browsing the site…

    DtecNet supplies the world’s largest media and entertainment right holders with extensive evidence on copyright infringers from all over the world. Through its advanced investigation DtecNet is capable of monitoring millions of titles on any file sharing platform for the distribution of illegal content and subsequently capturing the evidence of infringers.

    Does not the wording imply that “largest media and entertainment right holders’ ” content is illegal?

    • foobar

      only if you dare to take a look …

    • http://www.facebook.com/chronoss.uha1 Chronoss Uha

      ya that’s badly worded ROFL

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  • Australia

    1) Can someone plz post DtecNet’s methodology and the best work-arounds (apart from, “Get a VPN.”)

    2) Can Team Poison or someone skilled plz fuck up DtecNet?

    Cheers,
    Australia

    • Danny

      They will only monitor swarms I bet. Just avoid public trackers.
      Get a decent private tracker account and get on with life.

      • djnforce9

        You don’t even have to go that far. I seriously doubt file hosting services would be monitored. If they are, then that’s a MAJOR violation of people’s privacy because they would have to be monitoring every site you visit.

  • TheyCannotWin

    Hope these fuckers get DDoSed

  • Anonymous

    I hate the US…Why do i live here, worst fucking country in the world.

    • Fihfrl43

      Yeah, and they called “the free country”

      • Anon

        Where is life more free?

        • Danny

          Here in the UK!
          Oh wait…………

        • Zig

          Costa Rica

    • Anonymous

      Its not like any other country in the world will take us bro… Best advice I can give is to move to the coast and hope for the best… good luck.

      • Anonymous

        Actually im not american hahaha :D My parents just moved here, i wasn’t even born in the US.
        I can move to a lot of places, and anyways whenever Americans move somewhere they always get ripped off cause there to stupid to realize there just charging them more because there from the US.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

    Our parliament here in New Zealand has just joined the Irish in legislating their own version of three strikes, monitoring is to start now and letters of warning are to start being sent out from 1 September 2011. Like you folk have said already no-one in New Zealand has publicly confirmed who is going to do the monitoring, methinks maybe Dtecnet, and the rumour is it’s to ease the way for a free trade deal with the USA. WTF?

    • translucent

      Remember the US wrote the legislation for NZ. NZ politicians don’t give a flying fuck about national sovereignty. Months after passing the new law under urgency using the state of emergency due to the ChristChurch Eartquake , Prime Minister John Key gets a meeting with Obama.

      I’m not saying thats the only reason the meeting happened, but probably one of the latest reasons.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

    Our parliament here in New Zealand has just joined the Irish in legislating their own version of three strikes, monitoring is to start now and letters of warning are to start being sent out from 1 September 2011. Like you folk have said already no-one in New Zealand has publicly confirmed who is going to do the monitoring, methinks maybe Dtecnet, and the rumour is it’s to ease the way for a free trade deal with the USA. WTF?

  • Guest

    VPN services are getting rich.

  • No One Special

    Dtecnet is located in Denmark
    “This Site and any related products or services are being provided from the Kingdom of Denmark and therefore Danish law without regard to its conflict of law rules shall govern this Legal Notice and the contents on the Site. Solely the Danish courts shall decide any disputes arising out of or in relation to this Legal Notice. Place of venue shall be Copenhagen, Denmark.” quoted from Dtecnet’s legal page

    its sad that we are even outsourcing our detection system for USA’s DMCA law.

    • The_one

      Did you know that DtecNet has outsourced a lot of (maybe most) of their programming/web spying activity to the office in Vilnius, Lithuania..

    • Anonymous

      That pleases me. Finally something close enough to burn down.

    • Anonymous

      Only growing industries in the US… Prison, Banking/Financial insturments, Pharma, Insurance/ Commodities, and Weapons/Intellegence… We’re fucked, but we deserve it for insisting on the cheapest possible derivative of a given product… Do as much ensures that said product was made with slave labor by some kid who doesn’t have enough to eat.

  • Notme

    All the ip address used by dtecnet is in the Protowall database since more than 4 years already.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3BXCL2KKO5JVTH52MRUAWOWT4U Chris

    Downloading music is virtual shoplifting… I don’t see why people don’t support artists they like and just buy the music.

    • Son Yiu

      It’s people like you that make our world suck.

      • Agedinsoul

        second that!

        buying records is not the only way of supporting an artist. Let me illustrate: I downloaded a couple of albums (legally, since where i live, the download isn’t illegal!) of an artist. For me that artist’s music was so good that i spent 90$ for the concert.

        Only, a concert doesn’t seem to be what is gonna fill the pockets of labels and distribution companies, hence they brainwash people like Chris into believing that file sharing is nothing else but stealing/piracy/ or the fancy “virtual shoplifting”, good one ;)

        You can also look at it this way: Even though CDs are way too expensive, you still have to buy a couple of them before you reach the 90$ that artist made from me for one single evening…

        Do I wanna pay for music on itunes? certainly not…again, let the artist have a site where i know the money goes directly to them and i’d encourage even others to give sth…doesn’t have to be much tho, a dollar for the entire album and a lot of word to mouth and you got yourself a nice deal if you’re making music that appeals to a lot of people; just be an artist rather than a marketing prisoner, i.e. in such a model you’d rather focus on your music than on creating an image and spending a dreadful lot of money on marketing…with the internet you are connected to the world, not just you’re country…people from everywhere are watching, and listening!

        Oh, and if an artist is not gonna make a living out of his art, so what? I’m sure they can do a little basic math and most importantly, read. I know quite a few who have a day job like everyone else, making music and producing albums in their free time and some even make small movies, just as a hobby or a passion. Are they any good? Well, that’s the thing with art…all just a matter of opinion ;)

        • Agedinsoul

          *your country

        • http://twitter.com/kayakyakr kayakyakr

          I suggest bandcamp.com which gives 85% to the account manager. Now if the account manager is the band themselves (Sufjan Stevens is a good example of the exact band) or the band’s label, well, that’s up to you to figure out.

        • Friend of the People

          That’s all fine and well for music, but those standards don’t work for other forms of digital media. Take videogames for example; there’s no form of concert for videogames. There isn’t merchandise that supports the creators (well, there is, but not to nearly the same degree). There aren’t any services outside of multiplayer, and that isn’t an option for many of the best games. What is your proposed solution for them? What about movies, where the only advantage to cinemas is that they offer the movie before anyplace else? How should they make back their huge costs if they can’t profit from their actual product?

          Also, for music, those distribution companies are the ones responsible for footing the marketing money that allows the musician to fill up big concerts. It’s all fine and well to say that musicians should make all their income from concerts, until you remember that they can’t have those concerts until people know their name, and in the vast majority of cases, publicity isn’t free.

          “Are they any good? Well, that’s the thing with art…all just a matter of opinion ;) ”

          Is that a no :) ? Realistically, you’re right that many artists will do the math and will determine that they can’t support themselves doing what they want. For music, working on it as a hobby is ok, because a few people and a few instruments can produce any quality of music. This isn’t true for other forms of media. Four friends with average salaries can’t make a large-scale movie no matter how much money they have, and individual programing teams can’t produce the same types of games as large studios.

          Also, to finish, a question; why should I pay even one dollar online when I can get it free for the same amount of effort? It seems to me that your “word of mouth” proposition relies on the assumption that the people you’re recommending the music to will pay for it, which doesn’t make sense if it’s available for free. That’s not even mentioning the margin of error in a system of marketing that doesn’t actually advertise the product.

          To end, I’d like to hear your ideas on how other forms of media could possibly adapt to this new paradigm you suggest. Music is the easy fix; let’s hear about the others.

        • Agedinsoul

          in reply to Friend of the People

          “Music is the easy fix;”

          well in theory, yes. However, as the industry proves, in practice, no easy fix seems to exist, no matter how you present your solution.

          I agree with you tho. Compared to films and video games, music seems to be easier to “fix”, as you put it. Now, I feel honored you turn to me for possible solutions when it comes to these other types of media, but just because I can’t do that doesn’t mean you made your point. While we’re at it you could’ve asked me to dis/prove the existence of God ;)

          “How should they make back their huge costs if they can’t profit from their actual product?”

          I’d like to focus on “huge cost” and ask: why should i care if movie studios / producers are bad at calculating risks, or are they? Second question: Are huge costs really necessary to make a good film?

          Somehow I get the feeling the studios were earning way too much money for a long time and they’ve handled it not in the best possible ways. Now, I hear about films costing nearly a billion $ even though we all know by now that it’s not gonna take long before it’s available on the net. So why are they taking these huge risks anyway? Wouldn’t the best strategy be sth like: “first we need to figure out a solution as to how we can deal as good as we can with file-sharing and then we start proposing a new product” instead of “let’s see how far we can take this business model doomed to failure”. The first way would definitely create a considerable financial gap – more likely to be short term tho: making it urgent to come up with a solution as quickly as possible, whereas the second solution (the one they adopted now) is more likely to create financial problems after any potential failure at the box office (and when that happens, like a billion-movie being a flop and ruining a lot of people in the process) then don’t come running and point your finger to people who are file-sharing, because they were not the ones supposed to figure out a solution to a problem that lies at the core of an industry they do NOT work for ;)

        • Friend of the People

          To Agedinsoul

          You see, the problem I have isn’t just that you or any specific individual can’t propose a solution, it’s that no one I’ve ever seen or heard of has proposed a solution. No matter where I look, no one has any answers to those questions. Here’s what really bugs me about that though; many pirates argue for a change in copyright law, but it doesn’t seem to me that they’ve considered what the ramifications of those changes will be. The way I see it, pirates are arguing for a change in the way businesses handle themselves, so they have some group responsibility to propose solutions, but the only proposition I have heard is “make businesses find a new way to make money.” That’s the problem I have; people call for change, but they don’t seem to consider what those changes will actually do. Every time I look at it, there are a few constants I can’t avoid thinking about; the entertainment industries will begin to shy away from high cost projects. There will be a greater focus on a narrower subset of culture that is easier to monetize, like FPS and RTS games that will work on subscriptions in exchange for multiplayer and small games that cost almost nothing to make, but this will come at the expense of the diversity and (to some extent), the quality of the market. That’s what I see, and I’ve never heard anyone at all make an argument that came anywhere close to addressing these concerns. To be perfectly frank my friend, that’s what bugs me; the call for change without a concept of the repercussions.

          “why should i care if movie studios / producers are bad at calculating risks, or are they? Second question: Are huge costs really necessary to make a good film?”

          First question; they aren’t bad at calculating risks. They’ll still make the calculations, and here’s the calculation they’ll come up with; this is too expensive, we’re going to change focus. No more epic and masterfully crafted movies, we’ll make the best we can with the lowest cost possible. Or of course, we could just cut back on production of movies, or just get out of the movie business entirely. That’s the calculation they’ll make my friend.

          Second question; They aren’t necessary in the strictest sense, but there is a strong relationship between the two. It’s not so much about the maximum that a company will spend on a film, it’s about what the minimum threshold amount is for making a movie. The simple reality is that even with reasonably small special effects and inexpensive locations, films have a certain amount of money that will have to be spent; development, actor pay, director pay, location, special effects that the audience won’t grimace at (because audiences can be really demanding on that point), etc… It does cost a substantial amount of money; maybe not as much as some developers spend, but still a high enough amount to dissuade movie makers if a reliable source of money isn’t available.

          If filesharers want change, then it is their responsibility to have some idea of what that change will do. If you’re the one demanding something be different, then you need to be able to say why the current system is bad, what a better one might be, and why it would be better.

          And again, I’m not sure that the system can be changed to a filesharing-based system without a decrease in both the quantity and quality of available culture. If that’s the case, as it seems to be, then the current solution of copyright law is a better solution then just throwing caution to the wind and making a change without any idea of whether or not that change would be harmful.

          You want change, here’s my advice; use the free market. Make a filesharing based system that consistently rewards quality and does reasonably fulfill the purpose of copyright; advancing the progress and creation of the arts. Prove that your system is better. Prove that copyright is unnecessary. Do it legally, and prove that your way is superior.. If that happened, then I’d change my tune and I’d dance right along with all the other filesharers. As it stands though, that hasn’t happened. There hasn’t been any proof, only rhetoric.

        • Agedinsoul

          to Friend of the People

          I see can see your point there and I’m inclined to agree. The problem is, as you said before: try to compete with free. Still, I think it’s not all that bad. Like with everything, there are people who are able to make the best of a current situation and those who have difficulties to find their way. The latter will always find someone to blame instead of trying to figure out a solution.

          There’s just one thing I’m not sure whether I understood correctly: You said “if filesharers want change…”. Well, currently I don’t see why it is the filesharers who would want any change. And I didn’t imply that I want change either, even though I’m willing to discuss the issue. If anybody wants change, then it’s probably more the ones not making as much money as they did before (I want to emphasize the “not making as much” as opposed to “losing”, because they don’t “lose” any, strictly speaking).

          I think, what’s problematic in the end is that people are somehow looking for a “universal” solution to the issue at hand. That’s just not doable! Different individuals will support different artists. It’s not a black/white issue as the industries try to make it look like.

          You know, another thing that bugs me with most discussions related to filesharing is how bad it is etc., but back in the days when I had to pay up to 100-120$ for a NES or SNES game nobody seemed to care that that was way too much…why would they? You wanna play a game, you pay up or you miss out. That gave them total control and it’s not like they were considering to sell it for less…maximum profits, my friend!

          After following lots of debates on file-sharing etc. and being somebody who, for the love (or addiction) of music had to pay so much over the years, i think it’s refreshing that the business model ripping of its customers is slowly falling into pieces. And as much as they wanted to maximize their profits – and this is not a reproach because again, the situation presented itself, so go for it and maximize your profits – i think it’s only natural and to a certain extent a slight indication towards balancing out what happened up until this day and age, that filesharers want to maximize their “acquired products” at the lowest coast possible. And yes, if that means “free”, than why not. Sure, a lot of people might think that’s just plain ridiculous, but belief me, when I passed by a shop and saw a game for 5 bucks, that i paid for over a 100 bucks years ago, i felt kinda ridiculous myself. You might wanna argue that prices fall over time and I agree, it’s just that they do not change because the product itself changes – and in the end, that’s what a lot of customers are after – the product.

          I think the real problem with digitalized stuff is, in fact, that it’s only copies. You will either pay too much or nothing at all. As the seller, you aim for the first, as the buyer, you aim for the latter. The only way to somehow maintain a certain balance is to count on the people who are willing to give money because they wanna see new projects of the same artists and to live with the fact that there are a lot of other people who can live perfectly fine whether these artists are around or not. In order to gain a fan base which is willing to pay even though they could get the same thing for free you need a little more than some risk-calculating suits trying to maximize their profits. I know this is gonna sound incredibly cheesy, but you need, in fact, a product that speaks to the people out there in more ways than just a way of entertainment and you need people behind these projects who do not want to sell, but who want to represent their creations and who radiate enough passion for the people to care about what they’re doing – and getting in the end.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @Friend of the People

          Here’s the problem. There may not be a crystal clear solution to the problem of games for instance, but there is no alternative, no real way to enforce copyright, and no way to make people stop infringing as it will continue to be that easy for as long as we have the internet at all.

          It’s simply a case of choosing the lesser of two evils. And all isn’t lost for the game industry either. Valve games have had no problems obtaining massive amounts of paying customers purchasing legitimate games (indeed, most of the more serious game “pirates” I know have a well-stocked steam account).

          Xbox managed to regain a big customer base for games like “Oblivion” simply by starting to officially add the more popular consumer-generated mod packs, purchaseable on the microsoft store. And so on.

          We already have infinite filesharing. It’s a basic fact already and very likely to stay that way. And yet the gaming industry keeps on doing well. And this isn’t because their products aren’t pirated left, right and center. It’s because most big companies have managed to wrap their heads around the idea that even a static game can be serviced and that people are willing to pay for that service.

    • Guest

      “virtual shoplifting”…..
      The problem with your statement is that it implies that someone was deprived of physical property in the process(ergo: i steal a CD from a shop…i have 1 CD more and the shop has 1 CD less).
      This is not the case w/ file-sharing. The file-sharing process actually produces an additional “product”, leaving both persons in the transaction with 1 file each. There is no deprivation of property. Copyright Infringement IS NOT stealing. It is an action in violation of a company’s licensing contracts: ie, who has a right to produce copies of a work, hence the term “copyright”(duh).

    • Guest

      “virtual shoplifting”…..
      The problem with your statement is that it implies that someone was deprived of physical property in the process(ergo: i steal a CD from a shop…i have 1 CD more and the shop has 1 CD less).
      This is not the case w/ file-sharing. The file-sharing process actually produces an additional “product”, leaving both persons in the transaction with 1 file each. There is no deprivation of property. Copyright Infringement IS NOT stealing. It is an action in violation of a company’s licensing contracts: ie, who has a right to produce copies of a work, hence the term “copyright”(duh).

    • Jesus TittyFucking Christ

      Let them have cake….
      Stupid kid.
      The artist only gets 3% of sales.
      The large companies buy and sell politicians of the world.
      The politicians control the slaves of the world.
      Some people, can you believe, do not support that.
      Some people are not as lucky as us, they don’t have 25 euro for a f%cking dvd.

    • An Unwashed Heathen

      Way to buy some MAFIAA lies there, buddy.

      Let me explain what you fail to grasp:
      Say you have a CD of Boston’s first album. A must-have classic that is damn hard to find on the shelves anymore, and I’d like to have a pleasant listen.
      Ok, so you’re cool enough to let me borrow it.
      I pop that plastic into my computer, pop a blank into the burner, crank out a copy in 5 minutes and hand the original back to you. Who lost what, exactly? We’re both happy and all it cost was a blank CD out of my own pocket. Big deal, no steal.

      If I took your Boston CD and you never saw it again, then surprise surprise, I just stole it and you got nothing.

      Hopefully you woke up, smelled the coffee, and got a little wiser today. If not then sucks to be you for being such a tool.

      • Anaconda

        Nicely put, sir.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      No, downloading music is making a copy for private use. If that’s shoplifting then so is making your own copies of oreo cookies instead of getting them from wal-mart.

      Oh, and by the way, there are a dozen serious studies performed by governments, think tanks, and independent universities which state unequivocally that – surprise, surprise – the average pirate supports his chosen artists with more than twice as much money in legal purchases as the “average” fully legal consumer does.

      This has to do with being an enthusiast. And with not wanting to give 90 bucks out of every hundred to a middleman distributor.

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  • Mrrobfreeze

    It seems these people are on a power trip. They try to see who can find as many honost hard working people they can find to justify thye mil;lions of dollars they get in the name of fighting terrorism. I am disabled and enjoy watching movies because after all that is all I have. Now they are tryiong to take that from me.I lost my legs in Iraq and think I deserve the right to access any movie or sporting event available to me without having to spend my whole pension to do it.I can’t go to the store to buy them and sure as hell cannot go to the movies because they are not handicapped friendly. How many more of my rights am I going to have to give up, well I feel I gave at the office. LEAVE ME ALONE IN PEACE. Let me enjoy one of the few things I have left availabe to me

  • 666

    DtectNet signed its death wish… Sooner or later it WILL happen and probably not from Anonymous v2.0

    • Ahoy

      Either it signed its death warrant or it has a death wish… you can’t sign a death wish, o’ mighty keyboard warrior

    • Ahoy

      Either it signed its death warrant or it has a death wish… you can’t sign a death wish, o’ mighty keyboard warrior

  • Anonymous

    If you get caught SIX times and still do it, then you have nobody to blame but yourselves.

    I think you will find that you are better off not being a little bitch about this, torrentfreak. I mean, you are already thought of as a joke to 99% of the country as it is. This will take away that last tiny shred of credibility you have left.

    • Him

      change ‘caught’ to ‘accused’ for a start. add to that that no one is allowed to even question or fight against the first 4 ‘accusations’. what does that tell you? to me, it shows how desperate these fuckers are to keep hold of their out dated business model, keep control of the public in general and take control of the internet. all to their benefit, not to anyone else’s. that includes not to the benefit of any country, either!

    • CJS

      Random stats (prove the 99% part) interspersed amongst a heap of shit.
      You should have saved the wear and tear on you keyboard and kept your gob shut if that was all you could spout pal.

    • Dun Chen

      funny because I believe over 50% of all internet users have file shared. If 99% of people take torrenters as a joke then isn’t at least 49% of them laughing at themselves

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    The other thing of course. If your broadband provider has a local monopoly and they start hmmering your bandwidth. everyone affected should reduce payments on a pro-rata rate until full service is restored

  • Etros

    Haha.

    Why even Bother with dtecnet. they are nothing more than leeches who feed on the media industry. Targets should probably be politics governing file sharing.

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  • Anonymous

    Wow thats pretty messed up, good thing for VPNs and proxies I guess :)
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  • http://www.piratpartiet.dk/ Ole Husgaard

    Here are some facts about DTecNet, and the history of the company:

    DTecNet was really started by Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma (Johan Schlüter Law Firm, http://www.jslaw.dk/). It puzzles me a bit why they where never punished for it, as – according to danish law – it is illegal for a law firm to have any other commercial activity than lawyering.

    Here is an article from the Danish Computerworld from February 2005, where some journalists investigated DTecNet: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/26989

    Here it was exposed that:
    - Thomas Sehested, the CEO of DTecNet came directly from a job at Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma.
    - Two board members of DTecNet were partners in Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma.
    - The address of DTecNet was at the offices of Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma.

    After this article was published, Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma claimed that it was a separate company (otherwise it would be illegal, according to Danish law), that it was not owned by Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma, and the address of DTecNet was quickly moved. However, we still hear partners in Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma talk about DTecNet as “our investigation company”.

    The founding partner of Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma, Johan Schlüter, is the lawyer who said ”Child pornography is great” because it could be used to get politicians to censor the net (http://torrentfreak.com/%E2%80%9Dchild-pornography-is-great%E2%80%9D-anti-pirates-say-100429/). He was also the Secretary General of IFPI Denmark until recently. (Now he is no longer listed as such, and nobody seems to hold that title at IFPI DK. However, he still works for IFPI DK, and several employees of Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma have official positions in the IFPI DK secretariat.)

    The first time we Danes heard of DTecNet was when they launched the program “Parent File Scan” (https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/review-mpaas-parent-file-scan-software). This program was later launched in the US via MPAA. The program was designed to “help” parents ensure that their children did not break copyright law. But in reality it just scanned for audio and video files outside the M$-Windoze system folder, and warned that they could be illegal and offered to delete them. If something was broken because the program deleted such files, tough luck.

    So why was DTecNet founded? I have a theory: At that time Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma were running a large “speculative invoicing” operation. Thousands of letters were sent out, and they probably got a lot of money in payments from the accused infringers. But unless they could show that all the money they got in from this operation was spent running the operation, they knew that eventually they would have to pay some of it to the artists. So I think they created DTecNet as a separate company they could use to send the money to, so the artists would get nothing.

    Eventually Antipiratgruppen (which is just another name for Johan Schlüter Advokatfirma) had to end their “speculative invoicing” campaign after a series of rulings in our High Court saying that the “evidence” DTecNet was producing was not good enough to be used as evidence in court – not even with the lower threshold needed for civil cases. This is the same kind of “evidence” which is now going to be used to punish accused filesharers in the US – without even involving courts that may look at the “evidence”.

    • Anonymous

      Nice work dude! very informative!

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Johan Schlüter – the man who stood up at an IFPI conference and exclaimed with a wide grin “Child Pornography Is Great!…” and proceeded to talk about how the industry could use the fact that children were being filmed while sexually abused as a leverage to get governments moving in the direction of internet filtering, with the end goal of being able to usurp those blocklists for anti-filesharing purposes.

      That man is a bona fide sociopath if anything. If he started DTecNet then the company has started growing from a very rotten core already. And given herr Schlüters previous track record, presumably a very incompetent one.

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  • Redbugsbunny

    Would VpNs still by pass all this crap Or will the ISP see the traffic or packets of the data and shut it off ?

    • http://twitter.com/OmniDeiXMachina Deus

      i like where you’re going with that, but you don’t really need to encrypt the data. you just need to camouflage it so it looks like random data that could be anything. a VPN would slow network speeds down, and the ISP would just throttle the port its running on. I’ve got some ideas on how to by-pass this if anyone would be interested in hearing it. I wouldn’t post them here for obvious reasons, but if there were a place to talk more about it that someone feels is secure enough I might talk more.

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    Encrypted = it’s none of anyones business what this data is.

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  • Help

    I just got a warning from my internet provider with a warning that I have been “caught” downloading copyrighted material. Attached are four examples of what I allegedly downoaded. Two of them, from BayTSP ask for a response asking, “What remedies have you taken to ensure this doesn’t happen again?” Should I respond or ignore it and hope the whole deal blows away?

    • Steeleye2009

      ignore, ignore, ignore. Always ignore that stuff. If you reply in anyway, it is a form of acknowledgment. And if your hand is forced, plead ignorance. Read as much as you can (on these forms and others) about what other people are doing and saying as far as protection, avoidance and what can REALLY be proven by the “powers that be”.

  • Notforgodz

    I received one notice and switch to using my VPN. That was almost 3 months ago and haven’t heard a peep since. Luckily, my VPN will handle my bandwidth (30mb+) and gives me a choice on locations to pop out at…two of these in Asia. If your ISP tries to throttle the VPN connection, you can go after them…since they have no idea whether it is legit or not. And that is the fear of the ISP’s or relief since they cannot view into your tunnel they are not responsible for that connection. Not using a VPN, these days, is just asking for it. And if cost is the issue, current VPN prices are very reasonable…if weighed against settling a case with the MPAA.

  • Anonymous

    The interrelationships between government and these private entities whose motive is strictly profit fits the definition of Fascism.
    It is the omnipresent big brother that knows all that enters and leaves your home. To monitor a POTS circuit, a wiretap order must be signed by a Judge. Internet Snooping apparently is acceptable, and permitted by law ? I am not so sure. Should we not have some level of privacy provided to us ? Why should the internet be treated differently, ?

    • Etros

      The internet is a public forum. I’m sure the data legislation’s differ from wiretapping as such as long as no direct tapping of a single user is performed.

      I’m guessing that it is when a user in the public forum is caught with what they think is illegal activities that they claim the right to investigate on a deeper level.

      F… it. Go bleep on these guys by simple vpn or proxy. They probably can’t handle such a simple barrier.

      • Anonymous

        The internet is not a public forum. It is a fault tolerant communications network. Public forums can exist using the internet. The internet is nothing without the nodes connected to it. It provides the vehicle whereby data can be interchanged between points, or nodes. The data packets originate by someone or something. Is Email a private conversation ? If it is, how is that different from a book or movie, when in packet form, or electrons and photon representations for the original item ?

        If the copyrighted item is not reconstituted into a form where it can be used for its intended purpose, how then has the recipient stolen anything, or profited by it ?
        If a book exists as magnetic domains, photons, electrons, and bits of colored dye, and not printed and bound, or displayed on a e-reader, then what good is it ?

        I contend the DMCA is too broadly interpeted, and with the appropriate legal minds, could be overturned. It seems to have criminalized more old ladies and teenagers, than captured the industrial scale theives and counterfeiters. And was the law intended for enhancing the profits of legal entities and corporations?

  • Guest

    how will this effect DDL downloaders and digital download downloaders?

  • Guest

    how will this effect DDL downloaders and digital download downloaders?

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