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U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

Following on the heels of this week’s domain seizure of a large hiphop file-sharing links forum, it’s clear today that the U.S. Government has been very busy. Without any need for COICA, ICE has just seized the domain of a BitTorrent meta-search engine along with those belonging to other music linking sites and several others which appear to be connected to physical counterfeit goods.

While complex, it’s still possible for U.S. authorities and copyright groups to point at a fully-fledged BitTorrent site with a tracker and say “that’s an infringing site.” When one looks at a site which hosts torrents but operates no tracker, the finger pointing becomes quite a bit more difficult.

When a site has no tracker, carries no torrents, lists no copyright works unless someone searches for them and responds just like Google, accusing it of infringement becomes somewhat of a minefield – unless you’re ICE Homeland Security Investigations that is.

This morning, visitors to the Torrent-Finder.com site are greeted with an ominous graphic which indicates that ICE have seized the site’s domain.

The message below is posted on the seized sites

Seized Servers

“My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!” the exasperated owner of Torrent-Finder told TorrentFreak this morning.

“I firstly had DNS downtime. While I was contacting GoDaddy I noticed the DNS had changed. Godaddy had no idea what was going on and until now they do not understand the situation and they say it was totally from ICANN,” he explained.

Aside from the fact that domains are being seized seemingly at will, there is a very serious problem with the action against Torrent-Finder. Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.

Torrent-Finder remains operational through another URL, Torrent-Finder.info, so feel free to check it out for yourself. The layouts of the sites it searches are clearly visible in the results shown.

Yesterday we reported that the domain of hiphop site RapGodFathers had been seized and today we can reveal that they are not on their own. Two other music sites in the same field – OnSmash.com and DaJaz1.com – have fallen to the same fate. But ICE activities don’t end there.

Several other domains also appear to have been seized including 2009jerseys.com, nfljerseysupply.com, throwbackguy.com, cartoon77.com, lifetimereplicas.com, handbag9.com, handbagcom.com and dvdprostore.com.

All seized sites point to the same message.

Domain seizures coming under the much debated ‘censorship bill’ COICA? Who needs it?

Update: Below is an longer list of domains that were apparently seized. Most of the sites relate to counterfeit goods. We assume that the authorities had a proper warrant for these sites (as they had for RapGodFathers yesterday), but were unable to confirm this.

Update: A spokeswoman for ICE confirmed the seizures in the following statement. “ICE office of Homeland Security Investigations executed court-ordered seizure warrants against a number of domain names. As this is an ongoing investigation, there are no additional details available at this time.”

Update: The authorities have revealed further details on “Cyber Monday Crackdown.”

Full list of 82 seized domains

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  • ilikelamb

    wtf!!!!!!!

  • Devastatah

    So is it time for an alternative, censorship-free DNS system yet ?

  • An0nYm0uS

    I think its time that ICE feels the real force of what they are messing with.
    But…
    As long as they remain in THEIR country, I say let them keep playing. The moment they set foot outside the US territories and attempt to do the same is when the true “Violence” shall arise as they will be show that no one country may hold control of the vast internet and the liberties it shares amongst the people who use it.

  • Anonymous

    “Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.”

    But it links torrents.

  • Anon

    @Devastatah #2
    No. The faggot’s in the white house (not just obama) want the internet to be controlled by them. They feel the “internet” isn’t a place to be open and free. >_<

  • angry

    Who do these bastards think they are, Seriously. They’re americans not gods, Let’s get that into their thick ignorant skulls. They can do whatever they want within their borders. The internet is not within those borders.

  • Flying Dutchman

    This can prove really problematic for the USA in the long run. If they continue to randomly seize domains only because some coörperation request it. People will lose faith in the US domains and move away.

    I foresee a massive pullout from the US domains to other domains around the world. USA will lose alot of money and influence in the future if they continue to do these seizures.

    BTW, I really think Torrentfreak should change its domain name or have some kind of backup plan, just in case… Would be a real shame if they seized Torrentfreak’s domain =(

  • An0nYm0uS

    @6 the internet is not within their boarders… but unfortunately it does cross INTO their boarders giving them the “right” to control what passes within their boarders, limited to their country boarders.
    Its why at the moment they are only running to cut out all “illegal” cyber crime in their country first.

  • Jen

    They sure love those eagles on their logos

  • Afficionado

    America, land of the free.

  • cpx

    The end of internet freedom? Back to Soviets?

  • Kan3

    We need to find some alternative to DNS now, or it will be too late.

  • man-o-tor

    When will they start to take sites down, who just talk about torrents?
    Oh, I know – when facebook starts suing people for saying the word face…

    ;)

    I wondered where all the nazi’s went when germany didn’t want them anymore – now we now!

  • Protest Nothing

    @9
    Shoot down 1 Bald Eagle and get 1000Euros per entire body turned in to collections & studies in Holland.

  • PissedCitizen

    I really think Torrentfreak should change its domain name or have some kind of backup plan, just in case… Would be a real shame if they seized Torrentfreak’s domain =(
    x2

    This is getting out of hand. Some pretty corrupt shit. I can’t believe they are going to try to start this shit without any blow-back.

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  • Godwin

    Let me remind my fellow Americans that Nazi Germany’s Stasi was NOT in fact called “The Department of Homeland Security”. It was called “The Ministry of State Security”, so let’s please not confuse them.

    Also note that America is “The Land of The Free”, while Nazi Germany was “The Fatherland”. Hitler was killing Jews, and Muslim terrorist scum are not Jews, so America is clearly different.

    Let no-one even think we are living in a fascist state of any sort. This is obviously a Democracy — that’s why we have congress to always look out for our interests!

    Besides, the Germans invaded Poland. Who would the US bother to invade? Mexico? Canada? Iraq is way too far from home to count! Did Hitler have nukes? No! Did Hitler censor the internet? No! Therefore, there is simply no comparison!

    So, everything is fine. There’s nothing to worry about. Just trust in God, O Land of The Free and Home of The Brave! We’re going to be just fine.

    -Mike Godwin. Posted from iPhone while defecting to Europe.

  • angry
  • zappa

    Just distribute hosts files via torrents.

  • trustnoone

    How can they keep doing stuff like this, all I see is sites getting taken down left right and center, and for what. Most of the time none of them are doing anything illegal, just bringing back search pages. Yet some how they get taken down an not only that SUED!!! and they actually LOSE!!

    I don’t even see how this is legally possible, except the legal system has completely failed us, and companies are getting way too much authority for just a company, like the RIAA and many other ones.

    I seriously have no faith in humanity anymore

  • USA GO AWAY

    @9
    “They sure love those eagles on their logos”

    The nazis loved them as well, can you see the comparison?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/NSDAP_Reichsadler.svg

    enough said…

  • OM3GA

    Ppl, plz, stop shitting your pants. Just because these douche bags seized the domain name doesn’t mean that the site it’s self has been seized.

    Since they want to play hardball, so can we.

    A DNS server takes human-ineligible URLs (torrentfreak.com) and translates it to an IP address (208.100.11.174). If torrentfreak’s domain name was ever seized (God forbid!!) then it’ll still be accessible through it’s IP address be it through a host file, or inputted in the URL bar.

    I advise you, my fellow torrent freaks, to prepare for the inevitable, yet futile seizure spree by pinging your favorite tracker’s url and hostname to get the IP address and add it to your hosts file. If the domain name gets seized you won’t even notice.

    Happy torrenting!

  • Maxx Ori

    Someone really needs to shoot some people in the US to make this go away.

    Who do these people think they are? Since when do they OWN the WWW – WORLD Wide Web – not AWW.

    Someone needs to teach this country a lesson.

  • Torrent Finder

    I totally ask for webmasters support with this case… Torrent Finder is still online at http://www.torrent-finder.info

  • Anonamoose

    As the US goverment still illigally control the internet it’s hardly a supprise they are using their powers in a dodgy way.

    All countries should currently have sanctions against the US as they have ignored the UN rulings.

    Just disgracefull.

  • zappa

    We need to think beyond just DNS. If hosts files and alternative root DNS becomes common to reach “illegal” sites, they’ll start removing routes next.

  • Anonymous

    lets fuck the amicunts..dont mess with anonymous!

  • Anonymous

    3 Alternatives.

    Netsukuku (your own web decentralized on top of the old one, can be used to make wireless meshes that don’t connect to the normal internet also, seize that homeboy)

    Osiris Serverless Portal (same thing as Netsukuku and it claims it is indestructible)

    TOR hidden services (everybody knows this one)

  • AnarchyNow

    U$A = worse than nazi totalitarian imperialist dictatorship, never ever been a democracy at any point in its short history of mass-murders.

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  • Anonymous

    The Italians have Mollusconi so they are ahead of others in developing a free internet, but they need help.

    Netsukuku:

    Netsukuku is the name of an experimental peer-to-peer routing system, developed by the FreakNet MediaLab (Italian), created to build up a distributed network, anonymous and censorship-free, fully independent but not necessarily separated from Internet, without the support of any server, ISP and no central authority. It does not rely on a backbone router, or on any routing equipment other than normal network interface cards.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsukuku

    Osiris Serverless Portal System:

    Osiris has many features that make it a unique product at present, it is the result of a union between peer-to-peer and web portals.

    * It allows anyone to create a web portal for free, without depending on anyone or having special technical knowledge.

    * Allows you to create content anonymously, allowing you to contribute to freedom of expression and speech.

    * Osiris offers a full-text search engine that allows to search across all portal’s content.

    * Low resources utilization, with the increase of users in a portal there is a reduction of the workload on single nodes, as work is distributed among all network.

    * Use a p2p infrastructure (based on Kademlia) for the portals distribution, a field where there are few and difficult to use alternatives.

    * Administration is based on the reputations system a new way to manage user in a distributed system without using central servers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_%28Serverless_Portal_System%29

  • MrDC

    America land of the controlled!!!

  • Anonymous

    I said it on Techdirt and I’ll say it here: An RSS feed listing siezed domains and their former IP addresses could be fed into a program that’d update your hosts file on-the-fly, which would completely negate the ability to “sieze” domains.

  • Anonymous

    Wikileaks is down, is this also the reason?

  • jesus doesnt like you

    ah, good old fascism is comming back… no problem, will just have to defeat it again.

  • Telecomix

    Feel free to use the Telecomix DNS system at http://dns.telecomix.org/ and also join our chan for further development and experiments: http://chat.telecomix.org

  • Anonymous

    I think this will roll downhill, governments everywhere will start seizing domains for their own purposes and will go after all types of websites not just P2P and when the U.S. don’t roll over with the request they could just create their own root DNS servers fragmenting the internet.

  • cca

    Political and international relations issues ensue here, who gives me any guaranties that they won’t take down a site the US don’t like for whatever reason unrelated to piracy? Who the f@ck put them in charge of policing the internet?

    The current DNS system is flawed and it needs to be replaced ASAP, it is unthinkable that one country can bring down the net whenever they wish to.

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  • aus

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  • Bob

    It’s funny how the US always parades freedom like it’s a bloody cult, and then they pass legislation that’s the opposite of freedom.

    This is starting to look like a regime in it’s prime.

  • Angry Voter

    So, if you suspect a government employee or board member of a corporation of cheating on their taxes, should you seize them immediately without trial?

    Should they then be waterboarded until they admit their crime?

  • zab

    “Who the f@ck put them in charge of policing the internet?” you all did.

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  • david karapetyan

    I’m not liking the 1984 vibe this is giving me.

  • Anonymous

    RapGodFathers us cack under the .info domain

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  • babyboomerang

    zml.com seized
    tvshack.net seized
    movies-links.tv seized
    filespump.com seized
    planetmoviez.com seized
    thepiratecity.org seized

  • Censorship free DNS

    DNS.telecomix.org

  • politux

    The saddest thing is that Obama is going to turn me from a lifelong democrat into a republican if he keeps letting Hollywood dictate Internet policy.

  • ltu

    you get what you deserve…

    if you keep on only using ICANN system, you’ll stay in absolutism.

    What to do? Use a free and stable alternative DNS system like:

    http://www.opennicproject.org

  • Anonymous

    bad news and a sign of things to come.
    we must bring down the man

  • Anonymous

    @ Nov 26, 2010 at 14:06 by aus( http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/#comment-735496 )

    The U.K. is really trying hard to keep its place ahead of the U.S. in the authoritarian category LoL

    ps: I LoLed but the thing is scary.

  • Sorry

    Piratebay screwed.

    Next.

  • Devastatah

    @31

    [[[Wikileaks is down, is this also the reason?]]]

    Wikileaks works for me, but I’m from europe.

    Perhaps Your ISP blocked it ?

  • Rekrul

    @30, Anonymous;

    I said it on Techdirt and I’ll say it here: An RSS feed listing siezed domains and their former IP addresses could be fed into a program that’d update your hosts file on-the-fly, which would completely negate the ability to “sieze” domains.

    I’ve said it many places and I’ll say it here; IP addresses are not a 100% replacement for domain names! Don’t believe me? Try this; Find an URL for a file on FileServe, MegaShares, Netload or most of the various cyberlocker sites and replace the domain name with the IP address. Most of them will give you an error. Hotfile and MegaUpload seem to work though.

    For for the domain seizures; Since when does copyright infringement constitute a terrorist threat to this country? Who the fuck do they think they are? DHS wasn’t created to be an extension of the copyright industry! Does this mean that they’ve eliminated all terrorists and now have nothing better to do?

    I hope the EFF or someone takes them to court over this abuse of their power!

  • Narmer

    Everybody’s fidgeting for no reason. I have one question, has anyone here ever seen Matrix?

  • nnsa

    The entertainment/media companies refuse to understand the very simple concept of evolve or die and apparently so do the USA authorities.
    I see sinking to such desperate depths as good news, it clearly demonstrates they are on the back foot and grasping at straws (in the same way as the trolls on TF with their pish poor attempts to change popular opinion) whilst file sharing becomes ever more popular, the war is not over yet but we really are wining and hopefully forcing a change for the better. Some good stuff came out of the ddos attacks (ACS Law) but seeding and boycotting is hurting them far more than ddos attacks ever will.

  • Nobody

    @21 — Absolutely true, but will only work if the site in question isn’t using virtual hosting, which a some do. You wouldn’t be able to access those sites by IP address as it would rely on a domain name to resolve where it’s going.

  • x__miller_x

    democracy? freedom? I do not think so

  • david

    It’s nice that they put not only google analytics on that page, but also piwik (on a custom site)

  • x

    anything that stifles the listening of shitty ghetto music cannot be a bad thing.

  • Anonymous

    Let us Nerd Rage on Washington and give them the beating of a lifetime!

  • me

    UK police are wanting to do the same thing for .uk domains
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11845961

  • nonW00t

    Shocked they actually bothered getting a warrant. lol

  • Protest Nothing

    @58
    sure… lets DDoS the WhiteHouse and Pentagon. Sounds like fun!!
    LOIC Activated!!! LoL

  • Anonymous

    “Homeland Security”?

    You’ve got to be fscking kidding me?

    In what way is this a ‘homeland security’ issue?

  • erin

    This is not the “hope & change” that people voted for. Obama and his democrat friends (who are given lots of $$ by the RIAA & MPAA and Hollywood) are not to be trusted. FIVE former RIAA lawyers on the Department of Justice even. Anti-piracy loving senators (who receive lots of donations from Hollywood) writing bills like COICA which really has no other purpose than to protect the interests of the copyright holders that are giving them money.

    How sad.

  • jeyaganesh

    Never heard of these domains :(

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    Shit like this is the reason I became a Socialist (Not communist. Don’tn confuse the 2)

  • Anonymous

    @16 unfortunately your masterful use of satire will go wasted on the majority of idiots that make up humanity. The US is the new 1984, if only their citizens were smart enough to fight what’s coming…

  • hotdog

    Well I think it’s time everyone starts writing to senator Wyden whose stopped c.o.i.c.a. from taking effect and letting him know behind his back sites are being taken down.Also contacting eff.org aswell as demandprogress.org and making videos on youtube and also contacting your local news stations.We can all talk about what we want be we can also expose them for who they are riaa does not own all rights to everyones music especially if it’s under creative commons etc.They have no rights to tell independent artist aswell that they can’t share their music on torrent sites either.The mpaa is run under 6 major Hollywood studios which are Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures; Paramount Pictures Corporation; Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc.; Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation; Universal City Studios LLLP; and Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. Let’s boycott them!!!STOP WATCHING MOVIES UNDER THOSE STUDIO NAMES.THEY ARE AFRAID OF LOSING MONEY WELL THE PUBLIC SPEAKS NOW!!!
    This is a message to the world u.s. citizens are falling victims of the governments illegal actions and taking our first amendment rights as a citizen I ask we all join together and fight!!Lets not forget the the u.s. is not the only country where it’s governments taking freedom of speech but the rest of the world also we must join together as one!!Non-government citizens or the our world our planet humanity and not fight evil with evil but fight peacefully.
    Those are just some of my thoughts..
    just look for hotdog on torrentfreak I’m not leaving. ;)

  • Someone

    How about a decentralized DNS system?

  • Trickargl

    I wonder when they’ll use this kind of action for actual scammers.

    This behavior is totally biased through lobbies…

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  • Anon

    However much the current Democrats are regressive, the Republicans are even more so.

    Do not forget that there is an alternative. America does have independent candidates and a wealth of Green’s that support our issues; this issue.

    Maybe they won’t win, but they surely will never win if you don’t vote for them.

  • ynthrepic

    @45 Can someone actually link me anything that links Obama to any of this? Sounds like you’re stawmanning him here for no reason.

    It is much more in the interests of republicans to control the internet because they are the ones most heavily influenced by corporate lobbyists. They’re also religious nut-jobs; and we know what religion does for our freedoms.

  • Anonymous

    pffff whatever :D
    http://208.101.51.57

  • Anonymous

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Comin’ again to save the motherfuckin’ day, Yeah

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Freedom is the only way, Yeah

    Terrorists, you’re game is through
    ’cause now you have ta answer to

    America, Fuck yeah!
    So lick my butt and suck on my balls

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Whatcha’ gonna do when we come for you now?

  • okokok

    look. this was torrent-finder.com’s ip:
    http://74.81.170.110/

    go to it. see? something bad happenin’ here yo.

  • Anonymous

    WTF look at source code of seized domain they colecting IP addresses with piwik.

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  • solution

    create a new browser that has a DNS lookup built in that ICANN can’t touch

    yup out of your control

  • ~

    Isn’t it odd how they seize domains of practically unknown websites? Those websites were not doing any real damage to the industry. Perhaps they are afraid to seize domains from popular large websites for the great publicity it will create and shine the light upon the illegal seizures?

  • solution

    oh and create a dns server that you and your friends can make that allows YOU encrypted form the get go to see a domain and bring back its dns lookup locally, thus the world could type it in and get some other domain OR nothing at all…

    COICA = WASTE OF TIME and all this does is make that which they are after even more secure

    thanks COICA and the UK is about to do this too…

  • bruticus

    Thanks a lot Obama ( a failure of a p-Resident) and Janitalia Nuttylitano,

    Not only did u turn America into a police state with the TSA, you now turned the internet into a police state.

  • Deville

    I always knew it, it’s a bad idea that the ICANN is us-based.

  • neb

    I agree with #57.

    Homeland security my ass. And ICE?

    Ship them back to where they came from, after some jail time of course.

    So it wasn’t enough that coica didn’t go through. We’ll go find a sypathetic Federal Judge and do it anyway.

    It’s all about the Benjamins.

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  • Anonymous

    This is deeply disturbing.

  • cb3rob

    Sell your dollars, don’t buy anything from american companies, screw them.

  • Steve

    @2: Yes. .tor? Lets see how that works. We will bring up .tor domain names and before you know it the root DNS servers for .tor will be seized, blocked, or something worse.

  • 5318008

    I lol’d at all the anti-Democratic and anti-Obama comments up there.

    As if nobody can imagine the supreme ass-hattery that would commence if REPUBS were in charge?

    It’s not a Blue-vs-Red issue, it’s a corporate-money issue. Sons, I am disappoint.

  • Jimbob Jumpback

    Fake

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  • Bennu Strelitzia

    A couple of posts claim having an IP address does not allow you access to a site if they use virtual hosting.

    What they are referring to is the fact that HTTP 1.1 sends a Host: header that is often required when multiple domains use the same IP address or the server does not know which domain you were trying to access.

    This is only a problem if you try replacing the domain name with the IP address in the URL, because then HTTP 1.1 has no idea of the host name to send. To make a long story short, just add the proper entry to your Linux, Mac, or Windows hosts file, and access by the original name and http sends the host header and everything works fine.

    Or, if you run your own home network, run your own forwarding dns server, and you can override any definitions that are wrong or missing globally in your local file and then your whole house (and neighborhood in my case) will get the correct addresses. It is only a matter of time before organizations start offering their own alternative corrected DNS services to the community more generally with this type of crap going on.

  • Anonymous

    @82 Nov 26, 2010 at 19:02 by Steve:

    Are you serious?

    Lossless Audio Files – Mostly WavPack, some FLAC, Ape, ogg, etc. Has index generating links.

    http://wuvdsbmbwyjzsgei.onion/

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  • Anonymous

    TOR for those looking for websites that probably will never die.

    http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

    With a lot of links there.

    Even criminal things like the forum for contract-killers WTF! LoL

    But it does have the DumpTV.org or something like that.

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  • Anonymous

    @ 75 by ~

    “Isn’t it odd how they seize domains of practically unknown websites? Those websites were not doing any real damage to the industry. Perhaps they are afraid to seize domains from popular large websites for the great publicity it will create and shine the light upon the illegal seizures?”

    Or maybe they’re using easy targets to set a legal precedent so that in future they can say “but look, you did it for us before”.

  • random person

    when will people learn that godaddy conforms with all aspects of the us government.

    bob Patterson the ceo of godaddy is an american citizen. he must comply.

    ICANN also should be sued for the unpractical seizure of domains.

    switch to an CNNIC affiliated domain registrar to have a bit more piece of mind

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  • Sweden

    Here is list what Domains ICANN owns.

    .aero
    .asia
    .biz
    .cat
    .com
    .coop
    .edu
    .gov
    .info
    .int
    .jobs
    .mil
    .mobi
    .name
    .net
    .org
    .pro
    .tel
    and domains edu, gov, int, and mil.

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  • JD

    This is the joke of our American “justice system”. Its sickening. Our Government is also using ICE for many other things that have absolutely nothing to do with what they should be doing… they hide it under the disguise of doing it for national security, which anyone with any common sense in the brain at all knows is BS.

    Biden is also behind this.

    America is just as bad as China, believe it or not.

  • Anonymous

    Well, the site looks like it has tracking code.

  • Anonymous

    Does job bit me really think that this is going to make us go back and buy the crap from to corporation of entertainment parasites?

    Does he really thing that we are going to vote Obama again in 2012?

    NOT A CHANCE!

  • Anonymous

    We must start our own set of DNS servers and resturn the ceased domain names to their legitimate owners regardless of ICANNOTANYMORE or walk away from DNS naming going back to using IP.

    After all it will speed up internet.

  • Anonymous

    @51
    urdoinitwrong
    You didn’t put it in the hosts file. Putting the IP in the hosts file would fix your problems.

  • Anonymous

    Really, #14? Shooting bald eagles? I know you’re making a “joke”, but as somebody who volunteers her time to help care for injured birds, including bald eagles, I find your joke absolutely disgusting.

    I understand people are upset, but leave innocent animals out of it. It’s not their fault the US chose them as its national symbol.

  • Anonymous

    ” “Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.”

    But it links torrents.”

    Who cares the site links torrents? I mean, even though it is true that many people use torrents as a means of sharing copyrighted material, there are also many, highly-respected, artists who have also used the BitTorrent/free download technologies in order to distribute their work.

    Take Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails, for example. The latest NIN album, “The Slip” is available as a free download from the band’s website. So, therefore, downloading the album freely is NOT copyright infringement, since it’s the actual artist who chooses to distribute it freely, and gain profits by other means (concerts, etc).

    It’s just like 10 years ago, when everyone in the music industry was blasting off against Napster… Now, look at us, 10 years later, almost any song is available to us, for a single $1, on the iTunes Store.

    Companies should be able to see that the BitTorrent technology is just another thing that will make them change the paradigm on how to make money… make more gigs, for example, have a paid music streaming service, etc… it’s too sad the US Government is even thinking about such things as blocking websites… how sad…

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  • Anonymous

    bruticus you ignorant slut

    TSA and DOHS! was Gee Dubbya Bush’s doing.

  • 14124

    They got some eagle fetish?

  • whipped

    Looks to me like the internet belongs to the corporations now. just go to Urban Dictionary on the web and type in “Corporation” Enough said.

  • GrX

    the more of the public they anoy

    less sales as a boycott
    less votes

    they will and are shooting themselves in the foot with a land cannon with these moves

    when every site is shut down do they think people will really then go to the stores and buy content from the people who killed and maimed their homes and community?

    less votes = its the people who they are doing this against you people are their votes

    they are on a real losing battle here because when it comes to the end

    they will have lost all their customers (boycott)

    they will have pissed of that many voters that their will be chaos in our world over this.

  • Anonymous

    I dislike that people are drawing nazi references, but I do have to say that it brought a passage to mind. (The source, and exact text is not entirely certain)

    When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a communist.

    When they locked up the social democrats,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.

    When they came for the trade unionists,
    I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.

    When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;
    I wasn’t a Jew.

    When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out.

  • JAQUEBAUER

    Never, never in my life would I believe that my country, the United States of America whose Government” of the people, by the people and for the people” become a puppet of a Nazi like regime led by a President named Barak Hussein Obama, a member of the “political party “Democrat.”
    The freedoms and rights of citizens that were based on Constitional law have been usurped by the Obama Regime, who gained power by promising the people that he would lead the nation on “a changed policy of the past,” which most people believed to mean a less restrictive government, being inclusive of all citizens and by repealing many of the previous administrations laws that restricted certain rights of its citizens.
    Instead, Obama has led a wave of restrictions on the rights of its citizens and certain business’s, and pandering to the demands of other business type and world financial institutions. Obama has also led the charge to defund and weaken the US Military, to encourage illegal immigration, selectively enforce civil rights laws, and to weaken the economy of the United States. Obama is potentially an illegal president, as he most likely has not met the requirements of being a “natural born citizen.”
    Now the time has come to fight back against this fascist Obama regime, using non-violent means of the Courts, and the Ballot Box. in 2012, we must evict this Fascist and his Conspirators from the Presidency.

  • ICANN Expert

    Ppl, The idea that ICANN can take away a domain in this way is just plain wrong. ICANN puts names in the rootzone (.com/.net/.us, etc. They do not put names IN .com itself, so GoDaddy was in full CYA mode onthis I think. Only a registrar (like GoDaddy)or registry (like VeriSign) can edit the .com zone to point DNS traffic away from a particular web server. I agree that this was an unlawful seizure, but let’s blame the guilty!

  • C0RR0SIVE

    I agree with whomever posted about them changing the routing tables next, though, I don’t see how they will easily accomplish it.

    This WILL take the internet back into the dark ages.

    Would be interesting if every hosting company dropped ICANN, and created a new system, that is not, for once, based in a single country.

  • poop

    anyone notice how the american eagle continues to evolve/warp towards the nazi ensignia black eagle? all in the name of fighting terrorism, homeland security, and “outsiders” and state terrorists. in fact, mostly poor teenage boys who like web design are being pursued. someone should make a mockup eagle warp timeline in photoshop and show the progression of the american eagle logos in the past 200 years (and the accompanying political correct bullshit re-phrasing of american authoritarianism i.e. War Department becomes Defense Department)…

  • W

    See http://www.immixgroup.com/news/pr_display.cfm?ID=117 this is the company that now provides the DNS for all these domains.

  • TPB

    time for plan /b/ the pirate bay

  • Tim

    If you pay for the media that you consume, this isn’t a big deal. If you are upset because someone made it harder for you to steal, get over it. If you are truly concerned with your freedoms, take a stand.

    To make this out like the US Government is keeping anyone from doing anything but stealing someone’s intellectual property is a bit of a smoke screen, don’t you think?

  • Anonymous

    @94 Anonymous

    “I understand people are upset, but leave innocent animals out of it. It’s not their fault the US chose them as its national symbol.”

    Agree.

  • Ooooook.

    majority of internet activity to route from european or russian servers in 3, 2, 1 …. us private interests can shove the ‘content’ up their ass.

  • Anonymous

    @100 JAQUEBAUER

    You are nuts!

  • Fantastic

    @103

    Not that surprising. Some of the old establishment regardless of public political stripe be it whatever color believe that socialism in the Nazi fashion could work..it just needs to be done better.

    @106

    As has been pointed out to the letter from the Internet Techs and Law Profs this kinda behavior is a short step up to the oppressive censorship that occurs in places like China and Iran.

  • Caller of Doom

    America is facing yet another meltdown of their banking system, it is inevitable since they failed to learn from the last one in 2008 and failed to modify anything (failed to regulate their banking system).

    China, who already own a large part of America’s exterior debt, might not want to lend them anymore money, the US government will have to sell more obligations to the Federal bank so they can print more money to bail out their economy. Without China to lend money to support that bailout, the only possible end result will be a devaluation of the American currency which will have at least 3 immediate results:
    1) Huge increase in inflation for American citizens, greatly reduced buying power and large increase in poverty.
    2) The American dollar (the “greenback”) will cease to be a “refuge” currency and be replaced by any other more stable currency
    3) America will lose its influence on the world’s affairs, being the pawn of China, and incapable to enforce their views on the rest of the world.

    This ICE / Homeland Security affair is one of the sign that America is on the fast track to becoming an irrelevant nation. Like that last twitches of a patient on the verge of death.

    If world history teaches us something it’s that every world power have a limited shelf life.

  • Anonymous

    “@6 the internet is not within their boarders… but unfortunately it does cross INTO their boarders giving them the “right” to control what passes within their boarders, limited to their country boarders.
    Its why at the moment they are only running to cut out all “illegal” cyber crime in their country first.”

    The wind and rain also run through the country, should they sieze that, and let the true pirates,that make so much money that it steels from it’s own system, too?

    Everyone in the world is cornered by the expense of technology. You either use it or you go to jail, or starve completely. On top of this, the ones who made this so can have people arrested for taking back what has been taken from them.

    Wake the **** up!

  • THANK GOD

    for kicking the arse of lifetime replicas srsly my mail trash account is constantly spammed by those faggots…

  • hotdog

    Boycott the following:
    A letter from the riaa to patrick leahy http://www.riaa.com/blog.php?content_selector=Chorus-of-Support-For-Rogue-Sites-Bill
    and the pdf be sure to seed this worlwide
    http://image.exct.net/lib/fee913797d6303/m/1/101021_MultiIndustry_S3804_CombatingOnlineInfringementandCounterfeitsAct_Leahy.pdf
    1-800-PetMeds
    Activision
    Acushnet Golf
    Association of American Publishers
    Cable and Satellite Broadcasting Association of Asia (CASBAA)
    Chanel
    Church Music Publishers’ Association
    Copyright Alliance
    Disney
    EMI
    Entertainment Software Association
    Fashion Business Inc.
    Fortune Brands
    Guru Denim, Inc.
    Imaging Supplies Coalition
    Johnson and Johnson
    LVMH Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton
    Major League Baseball
    Merck
    Motion Picture Association of America
    NagraStar
    Nagravision
    National Music Publisher’s Association
    NBC Universal
    Nervous Tattoo Inc., dba Ed Hardy
    Newscorp
    Nike
    Oakley
    OpSec Security
    Premier League
    Recording Industry Association of America
    Sony Music Entertainment
    Sports Rights Owners Coalition
    STOP Streaming Group
    Tiffany and Co.
    Time Warner
    True Religion Apparel, Inc.
    Ultimate Fighting Championship
    Underwriters Laboratory
    Universal Music Group
    U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    Viacom
    Warner Music Group
    Xerox

  • Fuck the MAFIAA

    The most frightening part of all of this, is that the domain owner didn’t get a court summons notice, an infringement letter, a police raid, nothing.

    Not evening the hosting company knew what was going on.

    He just got taken out and his site disappeared from the radar like this was an Unmanned Drone strike on a fucking suspected terrorist compound.

    This is how the MPAA, RIAA, Susan Crawford & Howard Schmidt (the “Cybersecurity Czar”) see the ordinary people of the world who just don’t like getting ripped off.

    They want an all-out war on anyone who dares challenge the out-dated business models of entertainment media giants.

    Schmidt’s already called for “online identity cards” and last year a Senate bill was proposed that would allow the President to the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet in “emergencies”.

    Honestly, it’s going to get to the point where domain names with unfavourable political content will be next on the hitlist.

    Not mentioning any names… *cough* Wikileaks.

    It’s the logical progression. To secure profits they have to eliminate the source & spread of subversive thoughts & ideas that encourage people to challenge why fucking record labels and movie studios are making such obscene profits from peddling utter crap that costs 10c per disc to produce.

  • qwe

    So now that the Federal government has issued support for large capitalist company’s, Is ICE also require to overlook illegally imported goods during custom’s check for them too? You know those goods that Americans used to make? It’s wonderful to have a strong dollar value, if you keep sending it off to other countries and not provide a way to collect it back again.. That is so wise of you as a nation that supports itself.

    Where are these CDs made, and most likey printed? With so many workers out of work, and businesses out of business, who are the real criminals?

    Go to work you lazy American, and pay for your enterainment.. Oh,, that’s right, You can’t! The finacial structure of your country is driven by greed.. HAH HAH HAH

    Don’t be pissed at me, you are the one’s who don’t watch what you “do” buy and or where its from, you dumb asses. How long does it take you to work off the cost of CD anyway? Now imagine the people you just paid, and ask how long does it take them?

    Anyone good at math here?

    OH, that’s right America isn’t anywhere near the top 10 educated countries in the world. Sorry, didn’t mean to rack you brains.

    awww, poor American, such hard times for them. I guess they have to go rely on their government to make decissions for them, so they can cry about it some more. Poor, Poor Americans.

  • jak

    I think the only reason they haven’t put censors to filter out torrent material is they’re still minorly afraid of the Constitution which they’ve shat on, stepped on, and roasted over open fire.

  • hotdog

    @112 i literally have no idea who you are for or against!! America/Americans who are not involved with the government are like every other citizen of the world.We eat work, sleep, pay, taxes…. Then have to read some rhetorical comment from some babbling idiot who makes no sense to anything.
    If you are European, Europe is in crisis aswell it’s world governments destroying everything to innocent civilians worldwide!!! Next time you decide to type make sense in your typing.

  • steve mcqueen

    @96

    Thank you. Lol. Everyone keeps blaming things on Obama just cause they’re idiots.

    ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING DOWN ARE DIRECT RESULTS OF ACTIONS, LAWS, ACTS, ETC. ENACTED UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH’S PRESIDENCY.

    Have any of you morons blaming all the wrong people heard of the “Patriot Act”? Or are you that dense that you seriously think all these things happened in the blink of an eye under Obama’s presidency?

    Everything wrong with the U.S. at the moment began with the Patriot Act. From the creation of Homeland Security to the fiasco that is TSA. So if you’re gonna blame anyone, blame the Republicans and their leader at the time George Jr.

    And get over yourselves. You act like it’s a surprise that the U.S. is doing the things it does. Guess what? America’s not that great anymore. Other countries have their acts semi together because in other countries when they did things the people didn’t like the people stood up. They threw revolutions. And those countries leaders still remember those things and the fear of another event like that happening is enough to make them listen to the people.

    I’m an American, and I am not proud of that. Just reading half the comments on here makes me say “f*ck it, we’re getting what we deserve”. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

  • 32424

    OnSMASH
    THEY CAN NEVER STOP US!!!
    less than 10 seconds ago via twitter

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  • dg100

    Aha! The raid and seizure of a relatively inoffensive rap-remix torrent site now makes a lot more sense. Based on today’s news, I think the copyright brigade have hit on a new strategy.

    Instead of merely giving details of one piracy site that the police will ignore as a complete waste of time, they’re giving them a slew of counterfeiters to have a go at, plus a few torrent-sites – the RIAA’s “real” target – thrown in.

    It’s a blinder of a dirty trick that has clearly worked extremely well. Presumably, they’ll even pretend it’s proof of “links” between piracy and other forms of copyright-infringement (the fact that the only link is the organisation making the complaint in the first place will surely be dismissed as a mere technicality).

    Time will tell if the police become net-savvy enough to filter out this kind of rubbish.

  • bust

    TERROR
    take everybodys rights regardless of their religion

  • Jo Denny

    Wow, looks like those idiots in ICE have WAY too much spare time on their hands! Bunch of losers. Go find some real criminals to harass.

    privacy-web.edu.tc

  • Benjamin Yong

    This is gonna rewrite the history of internet…

    And guess what…? DOOM DAY of internet is here soon…

  • Anonymous

    Fuck the republicans
    its all there mess from 2 years ago. a republican house? were fucked

  • an american

    To the rest of the world:

    I apologize on behalf of my country. Apparently COICA is dead, but it turns out they didn’t need it. Believe it or not, there are those of us here who are still sane; we need your support.

  • Angry Voter

    The IRS has a long list of government employees who haven’t paid their taxes to the tune of billions of dollars. Who do the police arrest? Some kids who copied some music.

    There’s an endless list of bankster scammers with damage running into the hundreds of billions. Who do the police arrest? Some kids who copied some movies.

    There are companies that supplied equipment to declared enemies of the US. Weapons to the enemy during time of war. Outright Treason. Who do the police arrest? Some kids who downloaded some games.

    Weather they realize it or not, the police are undermining society by diverting limited resources away from the real criminals.

  • Tigger

    A few weeks ago everyone was slamming Libya for seizing vb.ly (a sex positive URL shortener, which was using LIBYA’S (!) TLD in direct violation of the Registrar’s rules and regulations.) Everyone was accusing Libya then of being a backward terrorist state trying to implement sharia law on the internet…
    I wonder what those same people think of America, the leader of the free world now?
    Just sayin’…

  • wow

    I think Im…

    having…

    a DOMAIN SEIZURE!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tyler

    We need the Pirate Party to grow in the US: http://pirate-party.us/

    I would finally care enough about the election to really know about what I was voting for.

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  • newbie

    From WikiLeaks site:
    “NOTE: At the moment WikiLeaks is not accepting new submissions due to re-engineering improvements the site to make it both more secure and more user-friendly. Since we are not currently accepting submissions during the re-engineering, we have also temporarily closed our online chat support for how to make a submission. We anticipate reopening the electronic drop box and live chat support in the near future.”

  • Ingnant Amerikan Hick

    I hate the direction my country is going. When the rest of the world decides to man up and kick our dicks in, please spare the little guys like me. Many of us don’t know better, some of us do but have no voice here. Remember that USA is the land of the free…if your great grand-daddy owned slaves.

  • Tylon

    Hm yeah, but hakers,paedophiles or other cyber-criminal site – forum (Phishing etc) can do everything what they want and what they do, because attack,steal,court normal people is OK , and fight with this is only waste of time for the Police for example BUT…

    Interests a big corporation is most important in this time and in “this” world (and RIAA,MIAA etc. of course ) , this is real dangerous of today internet and this must be defeated ! ^_^

  • Anonymous

    A search engine that only finds and displays ip addresses of servers will fix that.

  • subexp

    To everyone complaining about “Freedom” – don’t be confused. Freedom doesn’t give anyone the right to take things which don’t belong to us.

    Freedom doesn’t mean that theft is legal. It means you have freedom of speech, expression, religion, self-determination, etc. etc.

    I’m a musician. Are you thieving my songs without paying for them? Probably not, because my songs aren’t very popular. Regardless of that fact, theft of someone’s property is wrong.

    However, I do like bit torrent for watching missed TV shows. Since they were broadcast for free, there’s nothing inherently unjust about downloading them via bit torrent.

    A specific country’s internet (not to be confused with the world-wide web), and its infrastructure is its property. When you sign up with your local ISP, you’re leasing the internet infrastructure which belongs to that country. They make the rules, not you.

    Think of the little guys – small software companies…they can’t make a living if their good software is pirated. It’s forcing them to hook up with large corporations in order to make any money. Is this good?

    I don’t pretend to know the answer…but something somewhere has to break. It is inevitable. We knew it was coming.

    If INTERPOL joins in, all the Europeans will have similar problems. Don’t be so quick to dog on the Americans.

  • Robert

    looks like the good queen’s justice has spread to democracy. Maybe not time to move to Russia just yet, but I agree, when this goes from US to world, I’d urge people to cyber-attack their sites and poison their DNSs

  • lbarllcodel

    LMAO!! They still can’t touch piratebay. This should be a lesson to those of you who try to host these under US registered domains. Don’t do it. Get one from Japan or Sweden. Even if they shut them all down we would just find another way.

  • Lovemefree

    It’s over, freeloaders.

    Got to move to China or Russia.

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  • lbarllcodel

    To post @ 138. I would like to see how much freedom of speech you have if you joke about a bomb or say something ill mannered toward someone. There is no true freedoms except our thoughts. You should hear what Im thinking about you now. Talk about a defamination case!!

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  • The Reality

    And so it is done…the government is doing it’s job in stopping unauthorized sites from doing the thing. It pisses off the people who don’t care that any laws have been broken. If an outside U.S. site is blocked from U.S. internet, so be it. It’s just like going to Japan and not being able to stream some U.S. video sites like MTV due to international web laws. But most people don’t know about them so they complain about wrong doing. Good on the government for doing their job in GOVERNING us in ways that may not be violent in nature (which is the only reason we think the government should be for “wrong”)but instead to keep us in check from becoming a society that accepts broken laws as long as someone isn’t physically harmed. Disagree if you want. The government doesn’t need to disclose everything to everyone all the time. It’s like your child asking you why for everything you tell them so you just say “because I said so” for the good of the child..make sense. Peace!

  • The Reality

    And so it is done…the government is doing it’s job in stopping unauthorized sites from doing the thing. It pisses off the people who don’t care that any laws have been broken. If an outside U.S. site is blocked from U.S. internet, so be it. It’s just like going to Japan and not being able to stream some U.S. video sites like MTV due to international web laws. But most people don’t know about them so they complain about wrong doing. Good on the government for doing their job in GOVERNING us in ways that may not be violent in nature (which is the only reason we think the government should be for “wrong”)but instead to keep us in check from becoming a society that accepts broken laws as long as someone isn’t physically harmed. Disagree if you want. The government doesn’t need to disclose everything to everyone all the time. It’s like your child asking you why for everything you tell them so you just say “because I said so” for the good of the child..make sense. Peace! Oh, and as for seizing sites that you say aren’t illegal, just the allegation needs leads to the need to confirm. So if the site is indeed within the law, let it get inspected and if it’s good, it will be back in service. Better safe than sorry. And no I don’t work for the Department of Homeland Security.

  • 32424

    CONCLUSION:
    domains get seized without a warning, to even there own hosting company,
    TSA gets to fondle u when using ur 4th amendment right to travel.
    …
    U didnt complain when the patriot act went into place…
    …
    one more kanye west outburst and the whole country forgets today…
    ..
    We dont care , U dont care, just keep ramblng on forums , and reddit, nothing gets done, no one cares
    Starbucks anyone?

  • GrX

    keep this up and we’ll all end up canceling our broadband since we can’t seem to use it for what it was designed for and paid for in the first place

    then even all the services like itunes will fold since there wont be anyone online with internet to buy anything

    no matter what they do they always shoot their own feet off nothing ever works out the way they want.

    the popular sites will just change domains names mass email all their user bases and back in no time

    only the stupid like onsmash don’t have the brains to register another domain name yet or if they have the’ve not done a great job of getting the word around.

  • Sam

    So, there’s one torrent site on the list. I’m betting they were related to the others and got taken along with the entire registrar account.

  • layerbakes

    This relic of a government is NOT working for its people that “appointed” these egotistical bastards to the “office” where they “work” for “us” as a “community”.

    END

  • Xavier

    Here in the US we’ve been watching a steady erosion of our freedoms since 9/11. The new law allows seizure of ‘dangerous’ sites – you decide what fits that description. Even if the current overlords mean no harm (?!) what about the next group in power? I can easily see the not-too-distant day when we have a closed North American Web and any cross-border traffic has to be registered and recorded ‘for national security’, a type of Customs for the innertubes. That will keep US consumers from using offshore sites like Pirate Bay – and become easily identifiable if they do. Shutting down torrent sites is convenient – the movie and music lobby believe they’ll recoup money, and the politicians get to take the first step in conditioning the public to accept a government controlled internet. Politically incorrect sites will be next on the shutdown list.

    At least you’ll be able to tell your kids that you remember a free and open worldwide internet – but they probably won’t believe it.

  • Alvin Nonymous

    I wonder if they’re taking down sites most people don’t are about in the hopes that it stays under the radar…

    It didn’t seem to work.

  • Francisco George

    Here, as it is shown in the picture, it is a District Court Seizure Order. COICA is about giving directly the power of seizing Domain Names to the Attorney General witout having to go to a court to obtain a seizure order.

  • angry like you

    Look, I’m pissed and I’m American. If you guy could all pull your heads out of your asses and stop pointing at all America’s and labeling them the new Nazis or what ever your small minded brains can invent. The action of our self righteous, ineffective government does not reflect the beliefs or actions of ALL (or even a majority) of its citizens. this is a problem with our government and their corporate bedmates. And since this a global economy the blame also lies outside our government as well. so shall I start labeling all the citizens of those countries as (insert slanderous remark)? think about it. We’re getting shafted just like you.

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  • trueness

    Look, a steadily decrease in rights since 9/11 is not true. The U.S. is only enforcing the laws that you forgot about. What is the biggest problem with the TSA? Scanners or the workers? The workers who are not as professional as you’d like them. Agreed. But that’s a local managerial problem and not that of the corporation. Don’t like the U.S.? Move to Canada. Count all the things you can do here in the U.S. that other countries can’t. It’s a long list. But unless you have traveled, you don’t know. Americans keep thinking they have the right to have to many rights which will in turn eventually be our downfall because we really want the right not to have someone tell us what to do. Good, remove the government and find out how they have been helping us in ways you are transparent to. If you think my remarks are going to change anyone, or not state no one cares in forums, why are you reading these? BUSTED! I’m not asking you to think like me but just stating my opinion so read the next comment below me. Let the men and women who know the law and in a position to make changes do so. Whether for or against your opinion. If you don’t like it, get a degree and go into law or policts yourself and maybe you’ll be enlightened with things you never thought about.

  • joe

    torrentz is next

  • 32424

    2dopeboyz is next actually,
    and no one does a thing for the Biggest name in rap music links
    the mighty
    RRT FORUMS
    still exists with over 2 million members, and is the place where most music actually leaks,
    rlslog net still exists

  • lol

    Someone find the contract that said upon starting this world wide web it will be free for all to post illegal activities and why it’s our right to do so?? No? Because it doesn’t exist. The world wide web has international laws. Then the U.S. has laws on it’s local part of the web. The good ol’ days of a free web didn’t mean it was the safest. It meant not enough enforcement was going on. Remember all those warning you never took for granted? Like it is illegal to…you can get jailed or fined if?? Ya no one remembers because back then illegal web activity was a little low on the government priority list. Bad on them cause if they had controled it then like now, you wouldn’t be saying the good o’l days of free “uncontrolled web” Got spam? LOL

  • boo ya

    Hey, how many know China stole loads of information both military and civilian via the internet? Things that could make us vulnerable to attacks. The Department of Defense has created a new command called Cyber Defense and it’s up and running. This is a step to cleaning up our security all around in the cyber world. :)

  • America

    We’re just as pissed off as everyone outside our country. I think we need to have a special word to differentiate between “Americans” and the massive pile of semi-sentient excretions that we call “The American Government.”

    The idea that we’re responsible for our government because we voted them in is just as laughable as the idea that we voted them in.

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  • Gary

    Not all torrents are illegal ones.

    Better go after google while they’re at it. I’m sure they point to millions of more illegal torrents thane torrent finder.

  • Tim

    FUCK U.S. Fuck the whole system, you’re fucked up dumb people over there.

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  • anon

    Don’t like what’s happening to the internet? Blame the pirates. They couldn’t keep their fingers out of the cookie jar and now the web has to be more heavily regulated.

    Thanks guys.

  • whipped

    @120 You sure got it right! Thank you!

  • Ninja

    Soon we’ll see them seizing sites such as TF just because they can. Much like the terrorism excuse they use to do all sorts of nasty things. Can’t blame Obama directly for this since there are a whole lot of morons in the US Govt but he should do something about that.. Hopefully he doesn’t condone this..

    TF: the backup plan is a good idea, you should think about it.

  • Whatever

    @138 Nov 27, 2010 at 01:57 by Tylon

    Exactly.

  • Whatever

    So the US needed Jack Bauer to take down a (terrorist) site-search site.

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  • whipped

    Anon,
    The real pirates of the world are the corporations like Dow, Monsanto, Dupont, Syngenta, Aventis etc. etc.
    Industrial plunderers. Good on the p2p people. No polution or slave labour required for downlaoding. Looks like downloading might be better for the environment than manufacturing countless millions of plastic discs and cases.

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  • whipped

    Anon,
    The real pirates of the world are the corporations like Dow, Monsanto, Dupont, Syngenta, Aventis etc. etc.
    Industrial plunderers. Good on the p2p people. No pollution or slave labour required for downlaoding. Looks like downloading might be better for the environment than manufacturing countless millions of plastic discs and cases.

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  • Anonymous

    @140
    “However, I do like bit torrent for watching missed TV shows. Since they were broadcast for free, there’s nothing inherently unjust about downloading them via bit torrent.”

    Ahem, it’s not legal to distribute tvshows via bit-torrent without the approval of the copyright holder.

    “A specific country’s internet (not to be confused with the world-wide web), and its infrastructure is its property. When you sign up with your local ISP, you’re leasing the internet infrastructure which belongs to that country.”

    Actually it’s not government property but a private company’s property. It’s the lawmakers that actually make the laws that fuck with you

    “Think of the little guys – small software companies…they can’t make a living if their good software is pirated. ”

    Bullcrap, the small software company excuse is just lame.If I can’t afford it I take it anyway because I can’t buy it. Who is losing here ?. No one.

    “I don’t pretend to know the answer”
    We agree on this.

    “…but something somewhere has to break. It is inevitable. We knew it was coming.”
    Bla, bla, bla. This is nothing but the tip of tip of the tip of the iceberg.

    “If INTERPOL joins in, all the Europeans will have similar problems. ”

    Actually for Europe there is Europol. But I guess you were just trying to be smart.

  • Anonymous

    the only sites alive with torrent links will be the ones on google blogs indexed by google’s search engine

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  • guest1223

    I like how they put google analytics in those sites. (Check it’s source.)

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  • jong

    Soon we’ll see them seizing sites such as TF just because they can. Much like the terrorism excuse they use to do all sorts of nasty things. Can’t blame Obama directly for this since there are a whole lot of morons in the US Govt but he should do something about that.. Hopefully he doesn’t condone this..

    TF: the backup plan is a good idea, you should think about it.

  • solution

    distributing a HOSTS file then teaching users how to make there machine a dns server would in fact solve the americans once and for all.

    IT is why the DNS system is the way it is….

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  • Anonymous

    IT DOESN’T REALLY MATTER! THE ALIENS ARE COMING AND GOING TO KILL ALL OF US! MWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • noko

    At times like this I’m grateful I’m boycotting the movie and music industry.

    However this censorship cannot be allowed to continue…

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  • NT1789

    I welcome what they are doing. Good job boys! This and many other actions will eventually lead to a fracturing of the internet and force millions underground to darknets. Where free internet may actually exist. So thank you! Keep cracking down on these bit torrent sites! Then we will finally get a truly anonymous , decentralized, and encrypted internet ! cough cough I2P, freenet, etc, etc.

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  • betazed

    Has anyone confirmed that this is really the doing of the government? It could be perpetrated by other people. iirc COICA hasn’t passed both houses of congress yet and thus is not a law in the US, and it cannot be behind this.

  • John

    Why do you people think the US is only doing this? They only did this because the rest of the world is already doing this. France is banning people off the internet, and the UK is already going to be doing the same shit. It’s only a matter of time before the rest of the western world begins doing this and the governments won’t even complain other than the people living in those countries.

    And this probably won’t end at domain names, soon they’ll be taking on ISP’s. This is a downright attack on everyone to control them.

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  • Tomek

    I’m pretty sure this is illegal. The Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security Act give the deperatment no right to do what they just did. If anything that is up for the Justice Department. (But that part is always up for debate.)

    Plus if this story is completely true, they would have to issue the warrant to two parties, the owner of the domain and the register. In the ToS w/ GoDaddy and the ICANN Agreement it states that ownership of the domain lies with the “individual or organization who registers with an ICANN-approved registrar…” (the rest is legal stuff that says who owns if someone registers for a client… client still owns the domain.)

  • Matthew

    So wait, when they close these websites, do they have access to the IP’s of the people who downloaded the torrents? I’m serious, my country has nothing better to do than this? Were at a war that doesn’t need to be fought, a recession, etc. If anything, do they want their people getting even poorer paying for music,etc? Also, wasn’t the Department of Homeland Security made in response to the Invasion of Iraq in 2003? Why are they handling torrents? What threat do they pose?

  • Anonymous

    @45 (politux)

    Please don’t do the whole “I’m going to vote for the lesser of the two evils” thing. Seriously. Both of them are corrupt, corporate tools. Vote third party. The only thing keeping them from winning is people who refuse to vote for them.

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  • elreason4

    al gore can solve this, after all he did invent the internet! All bow to the obami!

  • ndmushroom

    Any idea if soundarea’s downtime has anything to do with this? For some reason it’s been offline since yesterday, while at the same time other sites have shut down their music forums (no problems with movies, sw etc though)

  • DrClue

    Be rest assured that the more governments squeeze the more that will slip through their fingers.

    Technologically the the government is still groping for the [any key] compared to the resources available
    to the internet community.

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  • Reyter

    cpx:

    “Back to the Soviets”?

    I can see that ignorant fascists also exist outside US government circles.

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  • Physical Counterfeit.

    So I guess none of you would care if {insert company that you stole from} goes into your home and take your goods.

    In my country P2P is illegal, meaning that any site/person that distributes copyrighted goods without consent, directly and/or indirectly, shall be prosecuted.

    Some of you would argue that search engines such as Yahoo! should be fined for approving aforementioned sites. I don’t know if they should be fined. And chances are once you agreed to allow your site to be in their site database you would have also agreed to a ton of legal stuff making them not liable.

    -full length music while low quality should be free, and high equality for a reasonable price. (in a way that’s already being done; some musicians, allow their songs to be uploaded on YouTube)
    - software and computer game prices are considered appropriate.
    (there are also a lot of freeware counterparts)
    - movies theaters can be expensive, but five to twenty-five dollars seem fair for 4k resolution, 100.20 surround sound, and possible 3D film & moving chair.

  • AP

    fuk u amrican looooow!

  • Anonymous

    I see no useful tracker on this list.
    No harm done.

  • US Dissident

    This could get ugly, they may even let Janet Nero out of her cage to start “accidentally” killing people.

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  • obsolete

    You really believe if McCain had won this would not be going on?

  • R

    But let’s not forget that these sites exist for one reason alone, which is to distribute pirated material. Period. I think you’d have a different outlook if you spent years of hard work and money creating an album of music, or a movie, or even some software only to find some douchebag in eastern Europe is giving it away. All this screaming about censorship is a smokescreen – you guys are just pissed because they’re making it harder for you to steal stuff. I have little sympathy.

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  • StevO

    @140 If your so worried about your songs being STOLEN, then dont make them available to the public. Problem solved.

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  • xxx

    Sigh, government is finally cracking on all of us pirates. To be honest, pirating hurts the careers of others. I’m a pirate and I guess their next focus will be on private sites. oh well, gl to the fed and gl to the private sites. lol

  • Anonymous

    Torrent sites need to start putting their current IP on prominent places so people can remember or even bookmark their IP. That will effectively neutrualize this threat.

  • Alex

    Dumbshits…USA a fascist country hardly, more like a corporatist plutocracy….
    We vote in Republicans that only have the interest of corporations….this is nothing but a money issue since torrent sites are a gateway to pirated software, music, movies etc. So calm down and if this bothers you vote next time…..

  • lol

    US thieves at their best

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  • not me

    Yeah blame Obama, sorry steve mcqueen but that is where the blame lies. His minions led by patrick leahy a democrat senator sponsored a bill to let the US censor the internet. Look it up.

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  • Sean

    Hi. Hate to tell you, but this is a sham.

    All these sites are all on one privately owned webhosting company, nowhere near the ICE or DHS’s IP ranges, and are all related in some way to SEIZEDSERVERS.COM. They’re also all largely unknown and I dont see why the gov’t would bother making a nice page and using a private managed webhosting company. They also have google analytics and Piwik in the pages, to get all the skinny on who they fooled. Media fell for another stunt again.

  • Johnny

    Punishment without trial!

    Only in the good old USA, “land of the free”.

    I can see it already, next they’ll repossess your house without a court order, merely because some company claims you own them money. If you disagree then *you* have to go to court to get it back.

  • Sean

    Most of these domains are also on the same registrar, with the same (NS1.SEIZEDSERVERS.NET) nameservers, with probably fake Chinese whois info. A government wouldn’t put chinese street info into domain whois. lol.

  • Great Dane

    American Nazis

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  • Great Dane

    America is a Turd world country

  • johnd

    They also use google analytics and Piwik.

    I guess they need to increase conversions hahaha…

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  • Anonymous

    The Internet in the USA is dying. The government is killing it hand in hand with greedy corporations. WTF…. This is sad.

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  • Von

    “it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.”

    You can load child pornography images here which are on sites not under your control.

    Tell us why you wouldn’t be a kiddy porn site while displaying that. Seriously, go for gold. Dazzle us.

  • Von

    “…it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.”

    You can load child pornography images here which are on sites not under your control.

    Tell us why you wouldn’t be a kiddy porn site while displaying that. Seriously, go for gold. Dazzle us.

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  • America – Fuck Yeah!

    OMG pirates calling corporations greedy, oblivious to irony!!! ZOMG!!!

  • cman

    HOAX

    this is a hoax.

    Let alone the IP addresses and whois of siezedservers.com

    Any statement by any of the agencies reported? Any press releases, any claim of great victory? Nothing.
    Total hoax

  • Anonymous

    Censorship and security are the main tools America uses as it was for the Soviets, Nazi’s, Pharaoh, and other oppressors. America goes around asking for everyone’s “papers”.

    @Godwin, don’t forget that America is killing Muslims instead of Jews (yes, their lives are worth just as much)… over 3 million in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries, not to mention South America, Haiti, Africa, and the natives of North America. Actually, I think the fascist state of America has invaded more countries than any other empire. Either you have a short memory or you are ignorant.

    America is now pressuring Internet sites such as Google and Facebook to allow ‘back doors’ for wiretapping. It is enough they have the access codes, but now they want unauthorized access to these sites. America is telling them not to encrypt their communication for them: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/fbi-pressuring-google-facebook-wiretapping/

  • Sokolum

    President Bush wasn’t that bad after all… hahhaha stupid morons we are.

    Sick they are.

  • TH3xR34P3R

    ffs, do they not relise that for every ONE the “seize” 100 or so are active and that they will never beable to shutdown a torrent or stream site, all the webmaster has to do is move to another domain and repeat everytime it happens. if they wanted to control usage rights then they should of started “patrols” during the birth of the internet. It’s called a public domain for a reason and can never be censored or shutdown, to do so is to kill off society from total comunication of a primary source (which imo is the same as the world commitig social suicide).

  • gdd2010

    Bring on the TOR networks

  • Johnny

    Odd, the whois info for the Torrent-Finder domain that was stolen by the US government. It’s registered to an individual in Egypt.

    Registrant:
    Torrent Finder
    15 Alexandria St.
    N/A
    Alexandria, 55555
    Egypt

    Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
    Created on: 30-Dec-05
    Expires on: 30-Dec-11
    Last Updated on: 04-Oct-10

    Administrative Contact:
    Gadelkareem, Waleed
    Torrent Finder
    N/A
    N/A
    Alexandria, 55555
    Egypt
    20121578967 Fax — 2034411838

    Technical Contact:
    Gadelkareem, Waleed
    Torrent Finder
    N/A
    N/A
    Alexandria, 55555
    Egypt
    20121578967 Fax — 2034411838

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

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  • Mark

    Let me be perfectly clear. This is not the American people doing this, this is the American Government. I live in America and absolutely do not condone this abuse of power. Big business is spending billions to get the US Government to do something about piracy and our weak ass government officials bend over and take it up the ass just to keep their jobs. Fuck them. Fuck the US Government not the US people.

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  • TAP

    Not being thick here, but did they just try changing the DNS -back-?

    That would be fucking hilarious if it worked and there was 50-50 downtime as everyone waited for requests to go through.

  • Little Brother

    I followed the link to this article from CNET, which was linked from Google News and then I was curious to see the “site siezure” splash page, so checked out one of the sites. Then on a lark I thought maybe the government was tracking visits, and sure enough, they are using both a Google Analytics account (e.g., boxedtvseries.com UA-19806388-1) and the opensource PiWik web analytics/tracking system with a 1×1-pixel gif (http://74.81.170.107/piwik/piwik.php?idsite=1) and probably cookies (I don’t kow too much of the hard tech on this stuff). A bit shameless to use an open-source package to compile data on *presumed* copyright infringers, don’t you think? I checked out a second site (eluxury-outlet.com) to see if the tracking numbers were the same across siezed sites and they are. Anyhow, it’s great to know I have a Big Brother watching over me. Can you guys visit/spread this link so I don’t feel so exposed, vulnerable and violated, under the “safety in numbers” theory? http://74.81.170.107/piwik/piwik.php?idsite=1. I can’t help but feel the gov’t is overreaching, especially when their notice advises that a first-time offense carries more prison time than murdering someone (and a $250,000 fine). Who does the gov’t work for again? What was that old phrase? “Government by big business, for big business and of big business?” Yeah, I think that was it. Very touching.

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  • FuzzyX

    Seeing all those websites with DVD in the name recalls me of the earlier days of DVD sales.

    FACT (operated by total scum) took action against DVD selling websites who imported R1 DVDs and sold them locally here in Europe. People back then welcomed the uncensored R1 DVDs usually with extra features.

    FACT lost the case and as you may note these days a major site like Amazon is quite happy to assist R1 supply to Europe.

    My point is don’t believe claims of wrong-doing without learning more.

    I look forwards when some of these domain owners take ICE to court and charge them with theft.

    They had also better be very careful to not touch our domains in Europe unless they want the web to be shattered with most domains forever outside their control.

    The aspect that most concerns me is that once domain seizure is seen as acceptable then this will slowly increase to any domain the great US of A object to.

    ICANN is now a fascist organization.

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    Modify HOSTS file:

    208.101.51.57 http://www.torrent-finder.com

    —

    (They’ve also registered torrent-finder.info – so you could use that)

    There is a blanket solution to nullify the DHS’s DNS-hijack efforts that will be deployed if they target more p2p sites.

    If DHS want to succeed, they will leave p2p/filesharing off their list of targets from now on and only do this for counterfeiting of physical products.

    Have an ICE day. xD

  • |||=+|-|

    ^^ Note: The post above was altered due to parsing.

    Exclude the http: // from the example above. ;)

  • Jay

    This is scary stuff. Today it’s bittorrent and copyright infringers, tomorrow it’s Fox News and American Thinker.

    I can only see this leading to a fracture of the internet as we know it. When I tell people about the fight over illegal file sharing, I tell them that there’s no way to stop it without a major blow to our civil liberties. I guess it’s begun.

    It’s going to be really hard for the American government to keep people from sharing. There will always be a way, even if it’s in the form of a domain name that changes every day, or the creation of a domain that ICANN does not control.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder what the us government would do if someone seized their ip hosting the warning on seized domains

  • Johnny

    Europe needs its own root servers. The Internet shouldn’t belong to the U.S. of A to do as they please.

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  • No Way!

    First the Feds continued to raid medical marijuana places on the west coast and now they are blocking torrent sites?

    I thought Obama was cool and down with the people? Suckers.

  • Big Dave

    When all you liberals drank the Kool-Aid and voted for Obama, this is what you got- an authoritarian regime.All you heard during Imam Obama’s campaign were his promises of free stuff and how he was going to make the “rich” (anybody with a job) pay. You didn’t read between the lines- you just got into line and voted for the Bolshevik.

  • Johnny

    “You really believe if McCain had won this would not be going on?”

    Holywood has traditionally favored the Democrats, and has supported them financially. As have lawyers BTW.

  • merc

    @140
    “However, I do like bit torrent for watching missed TV shows. Since they were broadcast for free, there’s nothing inherently unjust about downloading them via bit torrent.”

    The channel that broadcast them has paid rights to do so. By downloading them you just broke law. By downloading them you should also hate yourself.

    Pirate.

  • dsrtflwr

    This is what you morons get for voting for Obama.

  • John

    Obama’s America. You voted for it, now suck it up, Yanks!

  • TianaRedmondFields2

    Anonymous… 4chan… where are you to save us!?

  • Brian Norman

    I don’t like the rap the cussing etc. But totally taking over a cite, with a hearing or warning is….scary. It is also contrary to our first amendment rights. First the bad….then the rest of us.

  • Brian Norman

    I don’t like the rap the cussing etc. But totally taking over a cite, without a hearing or warning is….scary. It is also contrary to our first amendment rights. First the bad….then the rest of us.

  • Raiderz

    That’s the Obama Hope and Change you can believe in!

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  • Ebro

    How is this within the jurisdiction of the DHS? Big Brother is here.

  • The Dude

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  • steve mcqueen

    @198 not me

    [sigh] See, another example of someone blaming the wrong people. Obama’s in office now, doesn’t make him responsible. Where did the seeds for all this start? Bush. If anyone else where president right now you’d be blaming them. But to say he can directly decide what is proposed or not is ludicrous. He can veto things as per his Executive power, but bills/laws are proposed by the Senate and all those types. He can make suggestions that other can veto. Come on dude, didn’t you learn this in school? Or are they even teaching anything useful anymore? I weep for the future. All this facebook and twitter and stuff is making people forget about privacy. And leading to a much more not so bright generation.

    @226 Big Dave

    Ah, another one like the above guy. “Imam” really? That’s the best you have? So are you one of those people who says all Muslims or Middle Eastern people are terrorists too? I bet you are. I’m not even gonna start, because I could give good examples of other religions and stuff, but that won’t suit your mind well. Like Apple fanboys and they’re “magical” iProducts.

    America’s alright sometimes, but it’s full of too many people who don’t really think or use their brains at all. And people wonder why some countries hate us. Have you guys seen the movie Serenity? The part where young River says “We meddle.” And she’s referring to the Alliance could apply to us. Let people do and think and worship as they please. Not everyone is bad. Just like not everyone blames Obama. But hey, fyi, I didn’t drink the kool-aid. I don’t vote. Not cause I don’t care, but they select people for jury duty more from registered voters. I’d rather not be selected for jury duty.

  • son of elvis

    Apparently Homeland Security also seized the 14th Amendment and abolished due process. Wake up, people. Next the government will be seizing your property and maybe even your person without due process.

  • El Sendero

    Wonder when O’MAMBA will shut down “DRUDGE REPORT” website to eliminate their political threat to himself.

  • Slammy

    Even though I don’t like the government taking action like this… I’m totally for shutting down these sites. Torrents and other websites are Stealing copy right material. Movies, music, software…. stuff that people worked very hard on.

    As a musician, I wouldn’t want something I spent time and money working being shared for free. Just because 1 person bought it doesn’t give then the right to share it with millions on the internet.

    Stealing is stealing no matter how you try and ~justify~ it. Should the government just seize a site… no… there should be due processes. Should an ISP have rules and enforce them about sharing copy right material… yes. If anything the ISP should come under fire for allowing it.

    Stop looking for everything to be free. Go !PAY! for what you like and what you want. It’s not a Right to be able to steal music, movies or software online!

  • John Galt

    People, you DONT NEED those domain names to use the sites. It’s time we all start posting & using the IP addresses. I’m guessing Big Sis isnt smart enough to intercept the packets; at least not until she installs a massive firewall like in China :)

  • El Sendero

    Wonder when O’MAMBA will shut down “DRUDGE REPORT” or for that matter any other website to eliminate their political threat to himself.

  • Mike

    Personally, I am glad the government is seizing these domains that are literally stealing royalties from every artist whose work is posted for anyone to bypass opening their wallet to enjoy.

    Thou shalt not steal.

    Flame awawy.

  • loltrolled

    lol this is totally fake. I’ve seen that copypasta before. All those shit trackers probably ran on a similar vulnerable source, or just got DNS hijacked. This could possibly be one of the biggest trolls yet. Just saying…

  • Anonymous

    And yet, stupid liberals will continue to believe that electing leftists politicians ensures more freedom, not less.

    Fools! History proves just the opposite. Are you seeing it now dipshits?

  • Henry T

    Illegal domain name seizures, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
    They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
    They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
    Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress, except Ron Paul.
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    http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

  • Jon

    This is what you get when liberals are in charge…Socialism just as restrictive as Nazi Germany

  • Steve

    Our government has been allowing rampant copyright infringement for years – I’m surprised it only took them until now to enforce it. People who create the music and videos we enjoy should still be protected – thats why copyright laws exist

  • RichC

    I for one am glad they are going after these people, that means our borders must now be safe and we are no longer being overrun by illegal aliens and foreign terrorists. I mean ICE is responsible for immigration enforcement so they must have the real issues under control to waste so many resources doing this.

    I do not use bit torrent and I am not sure I even know how it works, but I am in favor of keeping this country safe and I do not see how this keeps me safer.

  • Mike

    “But let’s not forget that these sites exist for one reason alone, which is to distribute pirated material. Period. I think you’d have a different outlook if you spent years of hard work and money creating an album of music, or a movie, or even some software only to find some douchebag in eastern Europe is giving it away. All this screaming about censorship is a smokescreen – you guys are just pissed because they’re making it harder for you to steal stuff. I have little sympathy.”

    My sentiments exactly, this is not censorship, you are STEALING. I’ve done it too, by downloading way too many movie torrents, pr0n and others. It is WRONG. Do not do!

    As a guy who made a bad life decision to form a band and release a record via iTunes and CdBaby, I was quickly introduced to the current slacker-thief-culture of “oh, I’ll just download the torrent..” instead of…”why thank you for your effort, where may i buy this fantastic colleciton of songs?”

    You are not entitled to art, this is why morons like you watch Dancing With The Stars and listen to Lady Gaga: there is no incentive for art in America anymore…

    Stop stealing and STOP WHINING.

    Note: I spared you all and was not that guy who listed the name of his failing band…………

  • barf

    yet ICE has no time to bust the 20 millions illegals that they are supposed to enforce…. next step is to censor site like torrentfreak…

  • Not suprised

    Welcome to the USA police state

  • sailordude

    Wow all these angry posts and not one mention of OBAMA being in charge. Oh and the DEMOCRATS who are best friends with BIG MONEY MUSIC and HOLLYWOOD. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT you losers?

  • Pontus

    Next will be the alternative news sites like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Steve Quayle, etc. F*ck the gov’t…time now to use the 2nd amendment right we were given. Rise up children and slay the Beast before it’s too late.

  • Niteskyy

    Now I know how the Dixie Chicks felt when they had the need to apologize to the world for the idiot in the White House.

  • John

    I’m reading these posts and I’m sure I’m going to be called everything in the book and then some for having a differing opinion, however in many posts I read it appears as though I’m reading the rants of criminals. I can understand that a web site that only returns a listing of sites could be a bit of a problem for the U.S. to prosecute and I suspect such an effort will fail, but beyond that is what’s obvious theft of copyrighted intellectual material. How on earth can anyone justify that? How would you feel if you developed something and expected to make a living off of your work just to have someone else come along and take your work and publicly give it away to all comers?

  • wvshark

    Funny, I don’t remember them repealing the fourth amendment to the Constitution . . . .

  • Willis

    Half you little pissants probably voted for this cabal.

  • shirt

    The revolution is coming! Arm yourselves! ???????? ?? ???, ??? ????? ?? ???? ??????????!

  • Amazing

    I don’t follow this much, as there is so many other issues our gov. needs to be followed on….

    So this is about, pirating music, etc.?

    Funny how they allow all our jobs be outsourced to China, India, etc…but crack down on stealing from “artists”!

    “Artists” are in Obama’s back pocket way too much campaign dollars there.

    Protect their living, but allow our manufacturing jobs to disappear daily!

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  • shirt

    Revolution is upon us! Pray for us as the take over begins!

  • frank

    I’ve got some illegals next door. What about them ICE?

    Oh yeah, you’re too busy surfin the internet and sitting on your ass.

  • for it

    good. counterfit is stealing. you slugs should create a product and let someone steal it from you. but no, the best you can do is steal a song or jersey.

  • The Doctor

    Everyone has their panties in a wad because a few sites that were selling knockoffs got seized? Sorry, hardly fascism. They put a few Chinese who are copying items out of work. Boo hoo.

  • marcosinusa

    Just wanted to let all you non Americans know.. we have been taken over by evil forces and this is no longer the land of the free, but please continue to love the puppet-show and masters.

    that is all

  • Ohmylumbago

    Why don’t you geeky fags just go to Best Buy and steal music and DVDs off the shelves?

  • kelly

    I bet if ICE found a Jihad site they wouldn’t shut it down.

  • Obamaniac

    How is that hopey changey thing working out for ya?

  • mesndblues

    The best thing we can do at this point is not vote for the re-election of Obama…Nothing else matters…Our survival is at stake..

  • Anonymous

    Wait, you mean the Obama administration is completely beholden to the entertainment industry??!! Really??! After all, they only made massive contributions to his campaign, used every outlet at their disposal to cheer him before and after the elections, and have gotten many industry lawyers into enforcement positions within the government.

    Expect much, much more of this from this gang.

  • Wahmbulance

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

    I can’t steal someone’s intellectual property anymore!

  • oneperson

    hey this is crazy

  • KevDawg

    All you idiots are right…America isn’t a democracy anymore. In fact, it NEVER WAS, MORONS! America has always been a Democratic Republic. Look it up and find out exactly what it means, idiots.

  • ThinkerMan99

    It has little to do with Obama, Republican, or Democrats. It has everything to do with the fact that we live in a Corporate Communistic society, where all property is owned by corporations, there is no true private property.

    Blame the lobbies, especially the most power, the lawyers. The ones that represent these media corporations are the ones that gave the most to ALL of our politicians.

    Obama is probably one of the few that has tried to fight corporations via regulations. But the businesses fought back harder and they won. Regulations would mean a slow down to their plan to a one world corporate order.

    Our nation, our world, has been bought and sold. Prepare for a future where EVERYTHING will be subscription based, from our entertainment to our medications, to our very breaths.

  • Ayn

    Obama is a socialist and a statist. He believes in big government. And this is what big government does. No due process. No Constitution.

  • anon

    Everyone…Not all Americans agree with this. In fact, I bet almost no Americans agree with this….

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a complete fucking ass for you:

    “65 Nov 26, 2010 at 17:24 by Wilson Andrew Bolton

    Shit like this is the reason I became a Socialist (Not communist. Don’tn confuse the 2)”

    Hey dumbfuck Will – do you read history you ignorant stupid sack of fucking dogshit?

    This is about the dumbest fucking thing I’ve read on the ‘net in at least a month.

    Stupid fucking liberals. They really should be prevented from breeding so they don’t fuck up the gene pool.

  • jkeyes

    How about the site: TSAfondles.com… :-)

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  • boB

    I’m not so concerned with shutting down sites that are sending pirated copies, etc. People order deserving and EXPECTING to receive the real thing.

    However, to have Homeland Security do this is just incredulous. What does this have to do with security? These people are getting out of hand. If it were the Department of Commerce WITH a warrant, I would think it was a good thing.

    We have to put our foot down and tell the government to stop insuniating everything is a security issue. Homeland Security is for the PHYICAL SECURITY of this nation. Nothing more. If they can’t handle that, disband them.

  • Agit

    So it’s about time to write special browser plugin “unblock”. If you put a blocked name, for example “2009jerseys.com” in the URL box, it doesn’t ask for it a DNS serwer, but connect to the IP provided by plugin. Easy and simple.

    F**k you ICANN!

  • Anonymous

    I feel so much safer now

  • dumb_fuck_liberals

    To the liberal fucktards who rant against the Republicans because they think it’s only the Repubs who use lobbyists:

    Hey jackasses. Take your fucking heads out of your collectives asses.

    In case you haven’t noticed, it’s both parties who have been fucking you in the ass for decades now.

    Stupid liberal fucks. They react like a knee jerk ping from doctor’s hammer.

  • Mark

    Democrats are all about controlling the population. All of you who voted for this Fascist are getting what you deserve. Ironically, it was the technology generation that put him in office.

  • Anonymous

    This is great news. These thieves have gotten away with stealing our property for years now and robbing our households of an ability to earn income that is rightfully ours. I couldn’t be happier.

    We wouldn’t allow these thugs to break into our homes and steal our possessions. Why would we allow them to do the same thing just because they can hide behind the anonymity of the internet?

    One can only hope that criminal charges will follow and that HUGE fines will be paid and long prison sentences will be looooong.

    Speech is free, but the music I write ain’t, suckers!

  • 12Songwriter

    This is great news. These thieves have gotten away with stealing our property for years now and robbing our households of an ability to earn income that is rightfully ours. I couldn’t be happier.

    We wouldn’t allow these thugs to break into our homes and steal our possessions. Why would we allow them to do the same thing just because they can hide behind the anonymity of the internet?

    One can only hope that criminal charges will follow and that HUGE fines will be paid and long prison sentences will be looooong.

    Speech is free, but the music I write ain’t, suckers!

  • joe

    I wonder if they’ll be seizing all those folks in Manhattan/Chinatown that sell knock offs? I can see the scarf guy at 59th now.

  • Who cares who I am

    That war on drugs is working well too.

  • KingK

    I never realized that copyright infringement and theft of intellectual property were “rights”.
    Find another way to to do your ppirating ya douchebags.

  • Clarence

    @254 John – you’re a fucking idiot, copyright infringement isn’t theft, you fucking doorknob.

    You’re the same kind of bleating sheep that is led so easily to slaughter.

    Shut the fuck up, educate yourself, and then come back and post something intelligent. Until then, get the fuck off my internet, MPAA/RIAA/gov’t lackey/bitch.

  • Artist

    Maybe you A-holes will finally get it, This is stealing. Your free downloads are stealing from the Artist, studios and all the supporting members. But then Americans have become so use to government handouts why should they not expect free music and movies. America is lost and one step from being a socialist country. Fly a plane lately. TSA = SS of Germany?

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  • rrt van dolay

    That’s called CHANGE we can believe in…. looks like u useful idiots r no longer useful…..

  • The Memphian

    We tried to tell you democrats this was coming your way! Democrat liberals are about governmnt control! They are NOT about freedom. They do these things in the guise of “taking care of you” and you bite hook, line, and sinker every time. They are looking out for the music execs right now. You know, the one that funded this regime. You thought it was all cool that Hollywood and Hip Hop artists were telling you to vote for these people and you were going to be “cool” like them. You get what you paid for! It’s time for the regime to pay back its debts. Thank you Democrats who helped them along. Thank you Europeans for cheering him when he paid you a visit and legitimizing him to the numb skulls here. Socialism is so cool!

  • ABOUT FUCKING TIME

    Waaahhhhh… I can’t get everything for free.

    This is the best news in about 3 years if you run a legitimate site that’s been undercut by Torrents.

    That being said, the one thing I don’t want to see is the government arbitrarily seizing these assets. There should be a process and it should involve due diligence and some sort of review or trial.

    That being said – FUCK THE TORRENTS!

  • Texas

    The vast majority of the people complaining voted for Obama.

    Serves you morons right.

  • Buck N Farack

    For all the clowns on this post that voted for the friken BHO, you are getting the change you voted for.
    Hope you like the Change!

    Maybe it’s time to grow up and vote in some adults that do not pull this type of crap!

  • Mike

    Stealing is wrong. Ripping others off, either via bites and bytes or physical is wrong. I support this 200% as an artist trying to live. This is one of the few things the Obama group as got right!

  • Buck N Farack

    Screw the DNS, just start posting IP addresses. Add a few proxy reroutes as well.
    Time to take back our country from the BHO commies!!!!!!!

  • edtheplumber

    How’s that for “change you can believe in”! It’s a setup for the 2012 elections, can’t have the citizenry getting truthful facts about politicians, move them back to the journalism free mainstream media that they control. Look for conservative sites and blogs to go next. When is the revolution?

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  • Cineski

    America’s worst enemy is the US Government.

  • DavidL

    True Texas, The TSA touch-you-junk cops are another example, plus Obamacare.

    Next time you knuckleheads are persuaded to vote for democrats, just remember you are voting for government overlords.

  • Mike D

    All you people from other countries complaining; you loved Obama, you wanted Obama, well guess what, we are stuck with him and so are you – congratulations on your support of the New World Leader.

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  • HappyJournyes

    Excuse me… How is any of this in the Department of Homeland SECURITYs mission?! What’s that saying?,,,, oh STAY IN YOUR LANE DHS!!! Not that I agree with what they are doing or how they are doing it… but this is more in the FCC’s lane than DHS.

  • Any Mouse

    Small minds twits.

    Respect for property rights, intellectual, real property, content, whether physical or cyber, is a two way street.

    Did you create the content you are sharing? Did the creator of the property contained within the files grant you (or anyone) an open license to freely distribute? Ripping and burning another’s content for free distribution without license is the issue.

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  • Still_Free

    I agree that our U.S. government is way out of control and sick with power. However don’t think for a second that the U.S. government is representative of every U.S. citizen. Clearly 70% of Americans cannot tolerate our current totalitarian regime. After all, shall we equate our opinions of you wherever you are with your government? I didn’t think so.

  • Ares

    It’s funny how DHS comes down much harder on people who download music than people who sneak into our country illegally.

  • Paul

    The time for Open Rebellion has come.

    We have absolutely NO IDEA of what was seized or why. We’re taking the government’s word that the sites seized were selling bootleg products.

    What if they were simply ideologically opposed to Obama’s policies?

    REBEL!!!

  • Sick Of It

    They act swiftly to sieze internet domains when there’s money involved yet our Mexican border remains unsecured. Makes perfect sense.

  • Bob

    ICE? What does homeland security have to do with bootleg music? Bootleg music is a threat to our security? A new job for airport security. Take all those IPods and make sure everyone has a receipt for the pruchase of every song they have on their device. Does anyone else feel a little worried that our government is no longer “by the people?”

  • yossarian

    Vote!!!! Vote these authoritarian types out of office. Educate yourselves about things and ensure you vote for freedom.

  • Mike D

    What does ICE have to do with Downloaded content? Maybe they should get back to the borders and stop the illegal people from coming in and stealing our resources; when that job is done, then yeah, go after the downloaders

  • pausonne

    While I agree 100% that the major reason most of those sites are open is to steal – yes, STEAL – property, I do also agree that it’s way past time that the Feds start doing their OTHER job, that of protecting our borders and actually profiling terrorists.

  • anonymous

    to hell with dns straight to ip

  • steve

    As a musician, I say right on.

    You want my music, that I spend years putting together and many thousands of dollars, pay your $9.99 at iTunes.

    That’s a fair price.
    Free, via stealing, isn’t.

  • bumblefoot2004

    NOTICE: 2009jerseys.com has been seized. However, if you remove the “s” in ‘jerseys’ the site will appear intact. Ta da!

  • Anonymous

    “Someone find the contract that said upon starting this world wide web it will be free for all to post illegal activities and why it’s our right to do so?? No? Because it doesn’t exist. The world wide web has international laws. ”

    There’s still a thing call due process
    you fucktard!

  • Richard

    Hey, kids, instead of continually trashing ICE, connect the dots a little further: ICE is a branch of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The Director of the DHS is Janet Napolitano, aka “Bis Sis”. As Bis Sis has come under fire recently for the full body scanners and “enhanced pat-downs” at airports, the Obama administration has been first in line to step up and defend her and the DHS while we are the ones who lay there and get kicked. And, it’s not as if the DHS-ICE doesn’t have the Obama administration’s blessing in puttling this B.S. By continually targeting ICE, who is an easy target given their reputation for aggressive enforcment of immigration law, you are distracting yourselves from being mad at whom you really should be.

  • …

    Funny how this happens on a holiday. By Monday morning the news media will not mention any of this!

  • THISISNTCHINA

    WTF ARE WE IN CHINA NOW?

  • pausonne

    In addition, the major reason most of the “music” industry has been having trouble lately is not because of the stealing but because most of the stuff being pushed on us is just out and out garbage. The movies, the so-called “music,” the so-called “comedy….” Just hearing it at the malls is enough to make me vomit, fall to my knees and beg Christ to come back NOW!!

  • TheConservativeOne

    Elections have consequences…..Where is the outrage and coverage in the State Run Media……..? If this was Bush….it would be all over print and TV news….remember the Patriot Act…! Obama and the radical left are responsible for this and they will pay a heavy price come 2012…..! YOU ARE A ONE TERM PRESEDINT O……!

  • Oris Fudd

    I cant wait to see what kind of spin that Alex “Infowars blowhard” Jones puts on this! Lulz!

  • Darth Vader

    I would like to point out to people who say all downloading is illegal that it is not. Some is. But there are many legitimate uses of P2P technology. Starcraft 2 was released through bittorrent and it’s updates are as well. Linux distributions can be found through direct download and through torrents. And those are freely shared by the creators. As well as some movies, shows, and music. Not everyone is out their trying to make a buck. Some artists create for the sake of creation, not to make some cash. And to the “artists” on here saying music you write isn’t free, actually it is. No one charges you a fee to write music. You’re the ones who put a price on your creations. So get the f*ck over yourselves. Lots of better artists than you release things for free. And if you say you can’t do that I say look up “In Rainbows” by Radiohead. People were given the choice to pay what they wanted, and it turned into a success. By far their biggest album to date. Of course there’s lots of “artists” who called it a dumb move and stuff. But those are artists who follow the trends and who aren’t really artists at all.

    And lots of people aren’t here complaining about the loss of torrenting and all that, it’s about the censorship. The whole net neutrality thing is being thrown around and the main idea is that they can censor sites that they deem bad. But who defines what’s bad? The RIAA? The MPAA? The government? That’s what people are here worrying about or being pissed at. Because it’s a slippery slope. First it’s “piracy sites” or “counterfeit product sites” but that’s just the beginning. Next it’ll be sites with differing view of religion or perhaps sites telling people to pass on TSA grope downs and the screening machines. And don’t say that’s not a possibility, because it is.

    The uproar is that there was no due process in the shutting down of this site (and the others recently mentioned). But hey if you support no due process right on. Then one day when you’re accused of a crime (whether you actually committed one or not) we can just lock you up. Without a trial or being judged by a jury of your peers. One day someone can say “yeah I heard him say he downloaded something one time” and then the government can send DHS or ICE agents to your home and seize your computers and lock you up. Right? Cause all downloading is wrong. Or maybe someone will say (for those of you who are “artists”) that you’ve stolen a piece of their song or lyrics and used it in yours. I for one will find your posts on here and send it to you in prison and we’ll see what you say then. If you don’t think maybe you were wrong about theft of intellectual property. Cause all it’ll take is one person’s word against yours and you won’t be able to defend yourself.

  • |||=+|-|

    Steve: “You want my music, that I spend years putting together and many thousands of dollars…”

    You mean DAYS putting together and that you hope to make millions from while everyone else slaves day in, day out, just to keep a roof over their heads?

    Yeah, we’re crying for you pal.

  • Mike D

    Steve,

    Never heard of you or your music, don’t want it at any price, not even free

  • Mark Felt

    wikileaks is now sharing its documents via bit torrent trackers, perhaps this is the real reason the justice department has launched an all out assault on torrent sites.

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  • TERMN8R

    Interesting, this site is the only media reporting this! None of the Obummer lib leftie sympathizers
    have. Take their latte’ from them and watch the uproar. (Obummer uses Smoothie reference)

  • Mike D

    To |||=+|-|

    If Steve was making millions (or even thousands) for his music, he would not be on this site agruing with the little people; you see, Steve is just another one of the little people like us, he just wants to think he is more

  • An Artist

    So happy that the US government is protecting my art, my livelihood.

    Hope they do not stop here.

    To all the people complaining: get off the Internet, get a job and buy art!

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  • bruticus

    thank you so much Obama, you clown for showing us what your true colors are: a marxist, socialist thug.

    The TSA wasnt enough for ya? You had to sick your marxist dogs on us one more time. 2012 cant get here fast enough!

  • Dennis from Memphis

    So it begins. They {Dem. Lib. Socialists}, will take control of the Internet one slice at a time. Heil Obama.

  • FedUp

    Just want to note for all the people hating on Americans, this is not the will of the American people, but only the Obama Administration and their power-mad friends who will, hopefully, get voted out next election.

  • pausonne

    Darth Vader, you make great points. However, do we really know there wasn’t ANY due process? When drug agents break into a home suspected of making or dealing drugs, they have warrants that the rest of us don’t see. And the property is seized and shut down. While I don’t know personally, I would suspect that there have been investigations and proper warrants issued against those sites seized. If there WEREN’T, of course, we should be upset. However, if there were, then, more power to them.

  • Mike D

    Artist,

    You are just like Steve, if you were any kind of an artist making decent money you would not be on here dissing the little man, you my friend are just another little man

  • Thx1138

    In response to “Let no-one even think we are living in a fascist state of any sort. This is obviously a Democracy — that’s why we have congress to always look out for our interests!”

    Im so sick of people\media and politicans trying to propagate that america is a democracy.

    Go back to school America is a Republic.. RETARDS.

    For your viewing pleasure.
    http://www.viddler.com/explore/CSC130/videos/25/

  • Mike D

    Hey Steve and Artist,

    Give us a link, show us your Sh.T let’s see what you think is worth .99

  • Sidney Allen Johnson

    Democrats just can’t (won’t?) understand that this is exactly what they voted for. Control of information. Their entire propaganda machine is built on the big corporations of Hollywood. They have to defend their interests. You voted for this. It was always going to happen. Soon they will be censoring blog sites…count on it.

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  • Nothing New

    @309 pausonne

    Thank you. That’s what I’ve been saying myself for awhile now. There’s nothing truly great out. It’s all the same pre-packaged crap as always.

    Movies are all pretty much remakes now. Except of course for the “Saw” series which is the same as every other one in it. The “parody” movies, that aren’t even funny. After the second Scary Movie they all became repetitive. Oooo let me make a reference to something recent and people will say “haha I get that reference” and fork over their cash stupidly for.

    Music is the same. It’s all the same type of thing just by different artists. Nothing innovative and they get mad that no one’s buying their albums. Why should we? We get it. Your new album is the same as the one you had 3 albums ago. It was new then, it’s gotten old hearing the same style over and over by you.

    And if you like tv as is you deserve what you watch. Jersey Shore, Dancing With The Stars, American Idol. Really? That’s entertainment to you? The truly great shows (of which there aren’t many) disappear quickly. Or as soon as they become trendy lose what made them unique and amazing originally.

  • Jeff

    This is the police state we are living in. But there’s more to it. Hollywood and the big media Left are big contributors to the ‘Rat party and by God, the administration will do whats demanded of them.

  • Ben

    And I always thought the Republicans were the oppressors.

  • StereoDevil

    I didn’t vote for Obummer or any of those fuckheads so fuck all you cunts!

  • Saracen

    I have a pending order from borntrade (cheap US professional sports apparel). I hope it’s arrived or will arrive soon.

  • Sidney Allen Johnson

    As a musician I am a lot more uncomfortable that the likes of Bono and Springsteen get rich with their simple limericks and even simpler music than I am worried about my own potential loss of fortune. The world will be better if we stop allowing such fools to build altars of gold off of the money of their worshipers.

  • Mike D

    >>>>>Hey Steve and Artist,

    Give us a link, show us your Sh.T let’s see what you think is worth .99<<<<

    Didn't think we would be hearing back from them, mommie said that is enough Internet today Stevie

  • boozwaa

    You guys, the libs, voted for this…, hows that hope and change working out for you?

  • America, Fuck Yeah!

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Comin’ again to save the motherfuckin’ day, Yeah

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Freedom is the only way, Yeah

    Terrorists, you’re game is through
    cause now you have ta answer to

    America, Fuck yeah!
    So lick my butt and suck on my balls

    America, Fuck Yeah!
    Whatcha’ gonna do when we come for you now?

  • YankeeI

    Anyone who voted this thug into office only has themselves to blame. Hope and Change and a cute logo was all it took! Be proud!

  • MW

    @71

    “It is much more in the interests of republicans to control the internet because they are the ones most heavily influenced by corporate lobbyists. They’re also religious nut-jobs; and we know what religion does for our freedoms.”

    Democrats are still the ones in control till next year, and *they* are the Statists who are whittling away at our freedoms. Going on two years now, they’ve repeatedly ignored written law, in order to forge ahead and do as they pleased. GM bondholders told to get screwed despite being protected by contract law. DOJ deciding that election laws apply to some ethnic groups and not others. TSA deciding that the right to be secure from unreasonable search and seizure without a warrant doesn’t apply when it’s inconvenient to them.

    And you’re worried about a mythical religious extremist republican party creating a theocracy?

    Wake up – Statism is a religion, Democrats are it’s high priests, and it’s coming to a country near you…….

  • TheMan

    Big Brother at his finest. What’s next….rats in a cage, in YOUR FACE?

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  • Mike D

    MW, Well said.

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  • Nothing New

    @320 pausonne

    Thanks. And you’re right, there may have been due process in the shutting down of the sites. I was just trying to make a point to the people saying “well good for them they steal they do this and that”. Cuz you are correct, warrants and things like that are required. If there were, then as you said “more power to them”. As long as they followed the rules that is. If things weren’t done in accordance with the rules, then we should be upset.

    In a society, the rules should be followed. If not by everyone, at least by those in power. The ones who make the rules. Lead by example, basically. Because if the people in charge are doing things they shouldn’t be doing, then they have no right to expect better of anyone else nor to impose their will on anyone else. And that’s the thing I’m trying to get across. I kind of went on a rant though, but seeing some of the things people put on here gets me riled up. As it should though. For each of us. We should be riled up and concerned about the things taking place in our country. If we don’t take an interest then when things take a turn for the worse we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    I appreciate sir/madam that you at least read what I said and came up with that response of yours. It’s a good one. It’s not one of those “well blame Obama” or “every thief should go to jail” ones. And that is cool with me. If someone has a different opinion, then share it. But don’t speak without thinking. Don’t make a decision based off what you think you know or hear or read without learning more. And that’s all I ask, that people think. That before they pass judgment or anything like that they find out all the facts, they look at things from other peoples points of view. And look at the big picture.

    As I said, right now it’s about censoring/taking down “pirate sites” but what about later? I hate to sound cliche, but I love the comic and have to use the reference eventhough I believe it was Socrates or someone like that who first said it, “Who watches the watchmen?”

  • Darth Vader

    @320 pausonne

    Thanks. And you’re right, there may have been due process in the shutting down of the sites. I was just trying to make a point to the people saying “well good for them they steal they do this and that”. Cuz you are correct, warrants and things like that are required. If there were, then as you said “more power to them”. As long as they followed the rules that is. If things weren’t done in accordance with the rules, then we should be upset.

    In a society, the rules should be followed. If not by everyone, at least by those in power. The ones who make the rules. Lead by example, basically. Because if the people in charge are doing things they shouldn’t be doing, then they have no right to expect better of anyone else nor to impose their will on anyone else. And that’s the thing I’m trying to get across. I kind of went on a rant though, but seeing some of the things people put on here gets me riled up. As it should though. For each of us. We should be riled up and concerned about the things taking place in our country. If we don’t take an interest then when things take a turn for the worse we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    I appreciate sir/madam that you at least read what I said and came up with that response of yours. It’s a good one. It’s not one of those “well blame Obama” or “every thief should go to jail” ones. And that is cool with me. If someone has a different opinion, then share it. But don’t speak without thinking. Don’t make a decision based off what you think you know or hear or read without learning more. And that’s all I ask, that people think. That before they pass judgment or anything like that they find out all the facts, they look at things from other peoples points of view. And look at the big picture.

    As I said, right now it’s about censoring/taking down “pirate sites” but what about later? I hate to sound cliche, but I love the comic and have to use the reference eventhough I believe it was Socrates or someone like that who first said it, “Who watches the watchmen?”

  • Eric R.Ewell

    So much for due process.

  • El polo loco

    The whole idea of patents and trademarks are silly. What are we in 4th grade? Running to the teacher sobbing because the other kids stole my idea or keeps repeating something I said first? It is impossible to steal an idea from someones brain. The second you “share” that idea, it is no longer yours alone. You have pretty much given it away. It should be the sole responsibility of the company to protect it’s secrets without the ability to drag the violent gang called the government to do their dirty work for them. As far as fraud is concerned, THAT is completely legitimate. If some third party creates a can with the coca cola logo and puts their version of soda in it, the consumer has been defrauded and has cause for action to gain reparation. Coca cola, on the other hand, would have to do a better job of distinguishing their brand so others don’t imitate it as easily. That is solely their responsibility.

  • VB

    Y’all wanted hope and change…… Hows that working out for ya??

  • FuckYouBigSis-YouToHomobama

    Perhaps its time to shutdown the government.

  • FuckYouBigSis-YouToHomobama

    Due process???

  • Anonymous

    It’s George Bush’s fault!

  • johncarter

    It’s George Bush’s fault!

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  • PussyNerds

    Too funny listening to you little children talk tough because Obama is going to take away your media stealing sites.

    “America are Nazi’s because I can’t download Inception anymore!!!!!”

    Typical whining leftist, socialist little cunts. You are hands down the worst generation the planet has ever suffered. Everything you believe in is based on a childish philosophy of “I want it but don’t want to pay for it!”.

    Education, healthcare…all someone else’s responsibility.

    Fucking children with pubic hair.

    Let us have a war…please.

  • Robert

    Upset???

    Remember, you voted for this rockstar as your president in 2008. He surrounded himself with these people who made these unconstitutional decisions. This administration does not respect the constitution. At least the Republicans and conservatives have absolutely no intention to do this to you. They would rather worry about more important things like making sure we all have enough money when we are as old as they are today. It would be very prudent to get rid of these politicians who are in power today and replace them with people who listen to us. The Obama Administration has proven that is not happening and it will not happen as long as he is in power. In 2012, vote with your head this time, and not with your heart. You will be a lot happier as a result!

  • wtfisallthisdrama

    stop stealing and this wont happen to you. my son installed limewire on my pc and i grounded him for a month. make all the excuses you like, these domains were all either involved in criminal activity or provided links for criminal activity. good riddance. you want to get some music, go buy some.

  • pausonne

    Darth/Nothing New, your rant is rather justified, I think. It seems that most of the screaming seen here has little to do with REAL understanding of any “rights” (is there REALLY a RIGHT to healthcare, a house, a job or, dare I say it, to download someone else’s musical property?) but that it hit their pocket book. Now, “free” music won’t be available for a while till someone else opens up a site less easily reached. Oh, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  • Kel

    @angry We Americans are just as furious as you are. The young people who all thought it would be cool to elect Obama two years ago are finally giving themselves an epic facepalm now that they can’t get a free movie. That’s what happens when you smoke TOO much weed and don’t pay attention.

  • Brandie Lee

    Annoy a liberal, use facts and logic! the government is getting out of control, and quite honestly its slowly starting to resemble Nazi Germany in the early stages, first the promise of change, then the slow take over from the inside, then the liberal brain washing if somebody is different then shoot them, turn your head the other way, and eventually try to control the world. Dont turn your ears and head the other way people, THESE ARE YOUR FREEDOMS BEING TAKEN AWAY YOUR LIBERTIES AND YOUR INDIVIDUALISM! THATS WHAT MAKES AMERICA THE GREATEST COUNTRY IS OUR INDIVIDUALISM!

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  • Nate

    So hows that messiah thing working out ?

  • sibil

    true that, Texas. these guys get what they vote for. those who say these sites are “stealing” should look at what the administration is doing to these sites. also refer to “eminent domain”, “fairness doctrine”, “obamacare”, etc. ~peace.

  • RimCountry

    This is Obama’s pay-off to Big Hollywood… thank you for your support!

  • Damn

    The gods of war shall arise, cut down, slash and burn those who cut back on our freedom. We are the free people and shall be again. Bombs, bullets, sword and blood shall be everywhere the freedom is gone.
    Join me fellow pirate, the war has begun. We shall be free once more, with the blood of our enemy raining down the street of the freedom. Internet is going to Prevail!

    YAAARRR

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  • wouldntyouliketoknow

    first off, to those people that say it is like someone burglarizing your home is fuking ridiculous, if i steal from you you dont have what i take…when we dl a movie we didnt take anything unless we were really going to pay for the content (most of us wont btw). kinda funny the pirate party supported obama, so progressive…
    Wikileaks could easily change its distribution method so i dont think thats what this is about, its about obamas friends…
    “Obama picks RIAA’s favorite lawyer for a top Justice post

    Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10133425-38.html#ixzz16Q6wmEHx”

    Next election try not to get caught in the sway of the media fools, everyone who voted for obama is to blame for this and other horrible policies.

  • Robert

    Remember one thing kids…over half of you will become Republicans and conservatives by the time you turn 30. You will see the light! We all were renegade liberal, progressives out of school. Our teachers were, our professors were and they instilled in into us. Finally, we all had to get a job (try that lately if you are between 18-26?) pay bills and support our families. Completely different story. Then everything made sense. The entitlements stopped and now you have to pay for them because you are not big boys and girls. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ELECT LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVES IN WASHINGTON! LEARN FROM IT AND DON’T BE STUPID NEXT ELECTION WHEN YOU VOTE. Vote for real change, you will not be sorry because over half of Americans are Republican for a reason…a good reason!!!

  • illogicbuster

    angry wrote: “Who do these bastards think they are, Seriously. They’re americans not gods,”
    ——————————–
    Well unfortunately, when it comes to the internet, the American gov IS actually God. Comes from inventing and controlling it.

  • dj

    Listen to all the thieves squeal like pigs here. You jackasses just want to be able to freely steal copyrighted material,don’t you?

  • jimtime23

    the nerve of the government, siezing criminals who are stealing MP3 content from their legal owners. Be careful or next the government will try to confiscate the TV i stole from your house with no notice or warning.

  • BeanerSpace

    What ever happened to:
    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and Warrants shall not be issued, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

  • ByteRider

    Subnet: I’m starting “another internet” using its own DNS that the Feds can’t touch. Do these idiots think we’re all stuck with ICANN? Really?

    You’ll have to go to another webpage [linked to icann, unfortunitely] and from there, you can get to where you want to go. I call it “FUONET” (F-U Obama). Will post here when made available.

  • Greg

    So, you’re all upset about these sites that the Chinese make an assload from with counterfeit goods of American producers? And ripping off artists? Who’s really the commie here?

  • Jackass Democrat

    Hope all you mindless morons (ESPECIALLY you know-it-all college kids) who voted for Obama are happy with your choice! You idiots just HAD to vote for someone who could speak smoothly, talk a good game, and young and dashing instead of those boring old white men. Enjoy what you’ve sowed.

  • CCPony

    Hmmm… all of the sudden the youngsters that thrust Obama into the White House have developed an interest in the Constitution and freedom of speech? What? Hope and Change isn’t good enough anymore.

    Morons.

  • Andrew

    Just keep voting for big government democrats and you will get more and more of this stuff. This is what Obama meant when he said he WANTED TO FUNDAMENTALY TRANSFORM AMERICA.

  • Anonymous

    How do you like Hope and Change now? LMAO ALL YOU OZOMBIES WHO VOTED FOR THIS MUZZIE THOUGHT LIFE WAS GOING TO BE NIRVANA !! NOW LOOK WHAT YOU’RE GETTING !! KEEP VOTING LIBTARD DEMOCRAP!!!

  • Thomas

    “first off, to those people that say it is like someone burglarizing your home is fuking ridiculous, if i steal from you you dont have what i take…”

    And when you infringe my copyright, then I no longer have my exclusive right to copy and distribute my work as I wish.

    So, yeah, you DO take something away from someone when you infringe their copyright. Just because you’re unable to wrap your head around this simple concept doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

  • gotesehks

    Jerks. Stop stealing copyright works.
    This is no different than the Cops shutting down a Pawn Shop for selling stolen goods. You are stealing. Stop it!

  • Carlo

    Are you enjoying your “hope and change,” dummies?

  • Former eBay’r

    Does ICE have the balls to take down eBay? How many fake Gucci and Rolex items continue to be sold there? ICE, show some integrity and take down eBay and PayPal for any money laundering you find there. Oh, I forgot… Meg ran for Governor, and the big shots donate big to the Democrats.

  • dg100

    This is wrong.

    I speak as an industry professional from a family of performing artists.

    As someone recently forced to return to working for a music production company after a blessed absence of several years, I once again have a direct vested interest in good sales by my company.

    The anti-piracy campaign has already seen the corruption and subversion of the western world’s democracies, the misuse of law-enforcement, the harrassment and persecution of (often entirely innocent) people in what basically amounts to nothing more than a squalid attempt at price-fixing.

    If the lobbying campaign succeeds, I fear that all of us – the world’s industries and general public alike – will be left with a US government in possession of such immense powers of control over the internet that it will be all but impossible to disagree with them or compete with a favoured interest without being shut down.

    Outside of the right-wing nutters, I don’t know anyone who thinks this is a good idea. Certainly, the vast majority of musicians don’t support it – politically, they’re mostly very much left-of-centre.

    On behalf of everyone with the slightest trace of common sense, as someone who now stands to gain financially from the closure of these sites, I say this is wrong.

  • Obama Nazi

    And all the liberals thought the democrats and Obama cared so much about liberties; what a f#$%$#g joke!!!

  • PATRIOTIC AMERICAN

    How nice would it be if they put this much work into the IMMIGRATION part of Immigration and Custom Enforcement. Chalk one more up to the Socialist government of Obama, Pelosi and Reid. Next will be web sites that they speak out against this type of police state actions.

  • rlwieneke

    It’s amazing how many people posting here condone theft and have no problem with the duplicating of music and movies and allowing their possession by individuals who didn’t pay for it: stealing from the rightful owners. Also duplicating items such as handbags and jewelery. If they were the owners they would be screaming for justice.

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  • KG

    Go Obama!

  • Bob – USA

    If these sites were doing something illegal, then that is a matter for the courts to decide. This President just takes what he wants and the idiot liberals justify everything he does. He got his foot in the door with BP. They were obviously wrong, but the COURTS should have required them to pay the 20 billion – not the dictator in charge. When Obama exceeded his authority and just took it from them, and no one seemed too upset, we let him take the next step!

  • gotesehks

    Former E’Bayer, I get your rationale:
    “Everyone else steals, so it should be OK for me.” Douche.

  • truepatriot

    this is a bunch of bs. why are the feds wasting their time with this stuff. they should be protecting our borders from the 50 bazillion mexicans that cross over every day and are able to get multiple entitlements, as well as protect us from the ruthless mexican drug cartels. what a waste of government resources. there’s no telling how many !@$@^&^ ragheads are getting into the U.S. as well by crossing over from Mexico or Canada.

  • Pinktacobox

    FINALLY!!!

    Someone is standing up to these sites that steal other peoples property. its about time.!!!!!!

    The govt is actually doing something right for a change.

    GO GOVT!!!! Shut those stealing b*stards down!!!!!!

  • Anti-Commie

    Domain seizure is just one of the steps Obama and his Politburo will employ to attempt to cow the population. That’s what the net neutrality thing is all about – seizing control and manipulating information. Add the “Fairness Doctrine”, “Local Control” and other stuff in the mix and you see where all this is going.

  • KG

    WHAT ABOUT EBAY AND PAYPAL!?

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  • jonk

    Way to go. I bet it will take them all weekend to get back up and running.

  • Redd Kneckt

    In the meantime, the cost to support 30 million illegal aliens send America into bankruptcy

  • vips

    thank you…

  • Htos1

    I told eveyone about this in 2004.

  • pontificus

    Ah, the new national anthem:

    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
    What so proudly we hail’d at the beginning of the Internet age?
    Whose broad powers and authority, thro’ the alphabet soups,
    O’er the DNS we watch’d, were so freely streaming?
    And the seizure without due process, the Kenyan in the white house,
    Gave proof thro’ the night that our freedoms are now gone.
    O say, does that star-spangled DHS logo make you feel safer,
    O’er the land of the TSA-molested and the home of the demorat voters?

    [Isn't it a coincidence that there's a demorat in the White House both when we got a gem of legislation like DMCA, and now as the US government is starting to censor the internet, molest our children in the name of security and run up the national debt to unaffordable levels? Hmm...]

  • Rogue Citizen

    My views are going to be a bit unpopular here. The theft going on by Torrent and these pirate websites needs to be fought. Sorry but stealing music, movies and more hurts very real people. Artists need to be able to earn a living.

    This seizing is a start, but more needs to happen. More domains need to get seized… i am hoping they take on the big guns… ie ThePirateBay.

    As for the idiot in Egypt who cried that his site had no Torrent info… Bullcrap… he had a search engine to cross index on demand many of the leading torrent sites.

    As for those of you calling for an independent DNS hosting, thats just BS. The only reason to do so would be to pirate. Hence that ought to be fought. Being free and independent does not mean that people need the right to steal and hurt others. There ought to be NO PLACE where people can do that.

    Let anarchy rain on the pirates … let this war be fought on them now. Let the pirates feel the hurt like the songwriters, artists and other.

    Let these piracy domains fall and fall like dominoes.

  • FedUP

    I would think Homeland INSECURITY would have bigger fish to fry in illegal aliens–oopps that’s too tough to enforce so they go for easy hangin’ fruit.

    This administration has it’s priorities all dorked up! UNREAL

  • MJ

    My views are going to be a bit unpopular here. The theft going on by Torrent and these pirate websites needs to be fought. Sorry but stealing music, movies and more hurts very real people. Artists need to be able to earn a living.

    This seizing is a start, but more needs to happen. More domains need to get seized… i am hoping they take on the big guns… ie ThePirateBay.

    As for the idiot in Egypt who cried that his site had no Torrent info… Bullcrap… he had a search engine to cross index on demand many of the leading torrent sites.

    As for those of you calling for an independent DNS hosting, thats just BS. The only reason to do so would be to pirate. Hence that ought to be fought. Being free and independent does not mean that people need the right to steal and hurt others. There ought to be NO PLACE where people can do that.

    Let anarchy rain on the pirates … let this war be fought on them now. Let the pirates feel the hurt like the songwriters, artists and other.

    Let these piracy domains fall and fall like dominoes.

  • Bob – USA

    This is what the liberals mean by a “living Constitution”.

    It means that they can interpret it anyway they choose.

    In other words, a “living Constitution” is the same as NO Constitution.

    The Constitution is a guarantee of our rights. Unless we put in leaders that believe in strict interpretation of the Constitution,as written and ammended, we have no rights at all.

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  • rightwinger

    @ godwin

    The US is not a Democacy. It is a Republic.

  • Robert

    The theft of your constitutional rights without due process. Is this what you voted for in 2008? Let’s do a better job in 2012 since he is not going to be your “rockstar” any more! At least the Republicans respect our constitution and our rights!

  • Redd Kneckt

    They enforce the laws only if they harm legal citizens. If you are here illegally you can break all laws and get away with murder and live scott free like a King.

  • Riquin

    The Internet needs to be censored.

    It is a tool of the democratic forces and cannot be allowed. When the “Global Warming” scam came several months ago the Internet destroyed their science.

    Now is the TSA humiliation of citizens including the old and disable, women and children. Pictures of TSA taking advantage of these vulnerable citizens are displayed all over going viral. So it needs to disappear and fast.
    The Internet is creating too many headaches to the NAZI elite. They want you to have your news from ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, etc. Then you will see news like this: In a recent CBS News poll, 4 out of 5 Americans supported the use of full-body scans. LIES, LIES and LIES.

    The way we are going we are not going to have another election and if we have one it will be totally controlled.

    Oh I forgot!! And …. If you behave and follow their instructions they will give you a nice brown shirt.

  • Dave Garnett

    Why does the Homeland Security Agency have anything at all to do with sites that aren’t a threat to the United States? Shouldn’t this be handled through the Federal Court Systems? Wow trample on peoples rights some more why don’t you, this is getting crazy.

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  • Mad Hatter

    And all you Obama lovers thought Bush was bad. LOL How’s that “Hope and Change” working out for you now?

  • wouldntyouliketoknow

    jake-” So, yeah, you DO take something away from someone when you infringe their copyright. Just because you’re unable to wrap your head around this simple concept doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.”

    Just because you cannot comprehend that your rights are being taken away doesn’t mean its not happening.
    The love of money is the root of all evil…you will sell others rights for some extra money…

  • Bob

    MJ,

    No one is supporting theft. What we are opposed to is the governments power grab. No court has even heard arguements to determine if these sites are guilty of anything. That is why we have a Constituion. We are not suppose to have a King.

  • Fizzler

    Nappy is a dyke and a fool.

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  • Patriot

    Thanks Chairman O, Nanny Psychosi and Harry The Hat!

    You have succeeded in “fundamentally transforming” America into a police state!

    FRIGGIN’ NAZIS!

  • IRCaddict

    IRC works like a charm! Always has, always will.

  • Former eBay’r

    gotesehks, they don’t let employees use the Internet at McDonald’s so I guess you’re on your iPhone. My point is that DHS and ICE are going after bit players and are affording special treatment to eBay, a company that has long been accused by luxury consumer brands of serving as a platform for selling knock-offs.

  • Redd Kneckt

    Next they will kick down your doors and haul your ass away in the middle of the night for having the wrong brand of Ketchup.

  • hotdog

    I’m seriously getting pissed oFf with this as a musician sh8t shut up.
    I’m a musician and all for the torrent world.
    As a musician you should be booking shows, concerts and nightclubs any means of communications to get yourselves out there!! But you are tooo blinded the fact you’ve been brainwashed with old ways of you so called music being stolen PUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPARE ME WITH YOUR SAD STORY OF OH NO THE PIRATES HAVE STOLEN MY MUSIC NO THOSE PIRATES CAN BE YOUR BEST SUPPORTERS.
    I’M A MUSICIAN AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY YOUTUBE/GOOGLE TO PAY ME YET I HAVEN’T DONE SO BECAUSE I’M NOT GREEDY AND I HAVE A NICE FANBASE I AM ALSO NOT READY BECAUSE I WILL WAIT TILL THE TIME IS RIGHT.
    If you think torrent sites are soooooooooooooo bad you are dead wrong goodluck my friends when everyone will no longer buy copywriten music and go to independent labels and artist who aren’t afraid of freely distributing their hard earned music and trust me they will succeed in their wonderful ventures as you ride the pony of fail with the riaa and mpaa.

    Did you know that

    BRITNEY SPEARS WAS SUED FOR DOWNLOADING HER OWN MUSIC,AND SHE SAID WELL IT’S MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS “WHAT DID THE RIAA SAY” NO IT’S THE PROPERTY OF THE RECORD LABEL!!!!

    CREATIVE COMMONS IS THE FUTURE LEARN FROM IT.
    NIN( NINE IN NAILS) DID SO WHY CAN’T YOU???

  • Tim

    It’s all about control and power. And it’s all laid out under the “Patriot Act” and DHS that no one bothered to read or question. While this guy in the White House is surley a scumbag, let us remember (while everyone slept) who was President when the thousands of unread, undebated, documents were signed. Now if you’ll excuse me I must go get some beer, my favorite team is playing and my other tv I taped Oprah.

  • skippy777

    government divas at work

    this is how this government works – get your foot in the door first… than expand, expand, expand.

    in 1933, welfare was initiated…it was limited to married widowed (NOT TRAMPS WHO HAD ILLEGITIMATE KIDS) women with preschoolers…it was also limited to two years.

    by the 1970′s, it was a $350 billion per year government handout to every male and female, lifetime benefits, no limit on children and limited to people WHO WERE NOT MARRIED.

    this is how the government operates…start small and then expand, expand, expand.

  • JB

    A very large percentage of you people voted for this “Hope and Change” and this is what he meant by it. You should have read the man’s books, you should have read the man’s own words, you should have studied what he actually DOES as opposed to what he reads from the teleprompter.

    This man is a communist. Welcome to the machine comrades. Next time, if there is a next time, vote for liberty and freedom instead of non-discript “change”.

  • Obama is a joke

    Let me see. Obama refuses to shut down Wikileaks, which dump thousands and thousands of top secret documents–that intentionally damage U.S. National security–but wants to use Homeland Security to shut down music sites?

  • Rick O’Shay

    I am not a constitutional scholar, but I just checked the 1st Amendment, and I don’t see anything in there that guarantees a “right” to steal other people’s copyrighted creative works or sell illegal copies of brand name merchandise.

    I also can’t find where “free music, produced by others and given to me without paying for it” is listed as a fundamental natural human right.

    Prosecuting someone under the law for stealing things that other people worked hard to produce is not “censorship”.

    If you like it, just pay the guy who worked hard to produce it his 99 cents.

  • wouldntyouliketoknow

    terrorists get US trials, torrent owners get secret laws passed to handle them like a military tribunal…odd to anyone else?

  • Redd Kneckt

    Next they will kick down your doors and haul your ass away in the middle of the night for being a Catholic. They got thousands of acres of newly set up FEMA camps just for you.

  • Rick

    I’m confused, on what basis do supporters of torrent sites, which aid in the distrubution of stolen content, worry about the law? Or is illegal activity only “approved” when you benefit from it, but not when its done to you?

  • Bill

    You bunch of whining thieves! You certainly have an “entitlement” attitude. Just because music/film and other digitizable content is an easy thing to steal, you do it and you’re angry when you’re cut off?
    Clowns! Keep on with your anti-American rants, I think you all know, deep down inside, you wouldn’t be able to do sh1t without American technology, and you’d all still be living in ignorance without the internet. Do you really think folks who spend their lives creating movies/music/software should give away their creations? Would you freely give away your services? I think not! Clowns!

  • Sherman

    Democrats are screwing themselves out of the last sympathy left. Time to impeach Obama !

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  • Jack

    Barack Obama is an authoritarian joke.

    We need Ron Paul to restore individual liberty.

  • Fizzler

    This is how it started in Germany and morphed into 10 million Jews thinking they were standing in line for a shower. Wake up people. Lock and load. If you see people prowling around you place cap em. Especially interpol. More especially if they are illegals.

  • Symphony Sid

    They seized filespump.com, a rapidshare search engine, a couple of months ago and it didn’t get a mention.

  • Phil

    @124 I blame them both. Bush for allowing these things to be implimented in the first place and Obama for allowing this facism to continue. Obama is just as bad if not worse than Bush ever was; this is why the majority of the American people hate him so much now. The fact is a president doesn’t hold all power but he holds enough to at least take a stand for his positions and beliefs and if they are not met by Congress he can rally the American people to that cause. Obama has not done any of this showing he fully supports virtually everything that Bush enacted. We are STILL in Iraq and we are STILL in Afghanistan after two years. We have nothing to show for it except a ruined economy and a lack of respect from the rest of the world.

  • Redd Kneckt

    Next the Obama food police will confiscate all your assets for having a Hershey bar wrapper in your garbage can. You’ll get 15 to 20 for that

  • TruckerMatt

    Once the internet is completely owned by the government then they can make sure that all the money goes to those in need, and not those greedy entrenpreneurs. Illegal aliens, generational welfare mommas, those who have ruined their lives with drugs, drop outs, and of course the corrupt politicians.

  • Anonymous

    Impeach George W. Bush!

  • Former eBay’r

    As other posteres have noted, this isn’t about protecting intellectual property; it’s about C3I “Command Control Communications and Intelligence”. If these sites have done anything illegal; it should be up to the courts and due process not an agency of the DHS to shut them down. And if you’re really going after theft of intellectual property, why not go after those sites that have long been accused of selling counterfeit luxury goods, like eBay? What’s next Alex Jones? Rense?

  • Wake up

    Tim,

    If like most democrat party puppets you are implying “it’s all Bush’s” fault, let’s be honest. The Patriot act was passed during Bush’s administration, but it has been VASTLY expanded under Obama. Also, most of what Obama is doing is not supported by ANY law. We just have a media that chooses not to expose him, so simple minded people can’t see what he’s doing. They just blame Bush for everything they don’t like.

  • obamasuxs

    a lot of you guys voted for the marxist, so how is all that hope and change working out for you now?

  • hotdog

    ONCE AGAIN!!!
    I’m seriously getting pissed off with this as a musician sh8t shut up.
    I’m a musician and all for the torrent world.
    As a musician you should be booking shows, concerts and nightclubs any means of communications to get yourselves out there!! But you are tooo blinded the fact you’ve been brainwashed with old ways of your so called music being stolen PUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE SPARE ME WITH YOUR SAD STORY OF OH NO THE PIRATES HAVE STOLEN MY MUSIC NO THOSE PIRATES CAN BE YOUR BEST SUPPORTERS.
    I’M A MUSICIAN AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY YOUTUBE/GOOGLE TO PAY ME YET I HAVEN’T DONE SO BECAUSE I’M NOT GREEDY AND I HAVE A NICE FANBASE I AM ALSO NOT READY BECAUSE I WILL WAIT TILL THE TIME IS RIGHT.
    If you think torrent sites are soooooooooooooo bad you are dead wrong goodluck my friends when everyone will no longer buy copywriten music and go to independent labels and artist who aren’t afraid of freely distributing their hard earned music and trust me they will succeed in their wonderful ventures as you ride the pony of fail with the riaa and mpaa.

    Did you know that

    BRITNEY SPEARS WAS SUED FOR DOWNLOADING HER OWN MUSIC,AND SHE SAID WELL IT’S MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS “WHAT DID THE RIAA SAY” NO IT’S THE PROPERTY OF THE RECORD LABEL!!!!

    CREATIVE COMMONS IS THE FUTURE LEARN FROM IT.
    NIN( NINE IN NAILS) DID SO WHY CAN’T YOU???

  • We will create our Own

    If the continue this then we shall create our own internet and Name it Outernet.We shall not be in the controlling Net of the gorvernments Internet.Democracy forever

  • Fizzler

    I am glad somone gave Barry O a fat lip. The pussy.

  • wgc1959

    Hope and Change….. gotta love those progressives now.

  • Thomas_in_Newport

    Lets get this straight. The American people don’t like this. This is all from the Obama administration. He is a Marxist that is working to install a socialist economy here is the USA. That means the government must control all levels of the economy and the internet. The internet uncontrolled is just to open to freedom and a free market where the dollar is recognized for what it is. It is just a symbol or trading tool used as a method of exchange for a barter system. Under Obama all barters and agreements must be controlled by the government. While, as a capitalist, I am against “bootlegging” music or movies, I fear government control and tyranny. Next step here in the USA will be to shut down sites that find fault with whet Pelosi, Reid and Obama have to say. I have to ask, why aren‘t they working to shut down sites that affect our national security? … Kind of makes you wonder if we should be putting our e-mail address on anything we have to say that might be critical of the Lord High Obama!

  • Mad Hatter

    #428 Bill,

    Can you keep up the name calling, or is that the best you can do?

    No one is saying it’s okay to steal someones property, the point that you’re not grasping is there is no due process in the seizer of these sites. Please refer to the U.S. Constitution for further details.

  • Google baby!

    Learn to use Google. It’s you’re best friend. It finds EVERY thing! lol

  • D-Tail

    American Homeland Alliance will soon rectify this situation. The AHA website has been relocated. Check your gmail accounts for updates.

  • Google baby!

    Learn to use Google. It’s your best friend. It finds EVERY thing! lol

  • Dr Phill

    ROFL. What a bunch of whiners we’ve got here. I’ll bet 90% of the posters here are either Obama/Democrat supporters or admirers and haters of Republicans and yet, look who is assaulting our freedoms…DEMOCRATS!
    BTW, all of you out there talking about taking down America…good luck with that.

  • Bob

    Rick O’Shay
    When you “checked the Constitution” did you see anything that gives the President the power to just decide people are guilty of a crime without a trial?

    No one is justifying stealing, but a court needs to look at some evidence before someone is “deemed” to be guilty.

    Some of these sites make be breaking the law, others may not. Where is the evidence against them? In what court did they get their fair trial?

  • Hendrix92TheUniverse

    All you people are fools for not supporting Constitutional candidates like Ron Paul. Well now, you will live with the consequences of an oversized federal government

  • Mad Hatter

    Typo,

    Can you keep above the name calling**

  • Darth

    @345 pausonne

    Sorry, had responded with “Nothing New” because that’s how I feel about the current state of entertainment. But Darth is the one I use as my main rant name. And you’re correct. Is there really a right to all those things? Technically, no. You earn a job, to get cash to buy a home or music or anything you want. It’s not just given to you. The only rights we really have are the basic ones. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Along with whatever we’re granted in the Bill of Rights. Free speech, religion, bear arms, etc. Everything else is an extra that we have to work for.

    And I get what both sides are saying, their arguments. But some fall in the middle. I say present a legal alternative. Instead of wasting money fighting “piracy”, invest in a new alternative. The best example I can give of something like that is iTunes. iTunes is a huge success. It’s legal and it’s got a big selection of music, movies, shows and apps. That’s the middle ground as far as I see it. Give people a choice and they’ll surprise the hell out of you. Not everyone is a criminal, and I’m not going to label anyone as such.

    But the best thing for everyone would be something iTunes like. But with more choices of entertainment and with differing types of file formats. Not everyone wants mp3 music or mp4 videos. Some want flac, others want mkv. This is the only way to please everyone. The for/against downloading crowd at least.

    Is it a perfect idea, maybe not, but at least I’m thinking of a fix instead of slinging insults and trying to place blame. Some of you guys should try doing the same.

  • Joe

    This is what happens when you mess with the “man’s” money flow. Money is the most important thing in all creation in the US and if you mess with it then you are doomed.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t affect me so I don’t see any problem with it.

  • Wow

    So people STEAL from other people.
    A country tries to prevent the STEALing.
    The STEALers get mad.
    Surprise, surprise.

  • Biff Jones

    ACHTUNG! Your Papers Please!! Does anybody have any doubt Obama is a closet NAZI? The second American Revolution Nears.

  • Bob

    Why are there so many clowns on this site that can’t understand that the issue is government power grab, not freee music?

    I guess they support a dictator so they are trying to change the focus of the discussion to something that most people wil agree with, rather than focusing on the real danger.

    If there is evidence that someone is stealing digital rights, then it is a matter for the courts to handle. The executive branch has NO AUTHORITY – especially under the guise of national security.

    Obama should be as concerned about our borders as he is about protecting his contributers.

  • Former eBay’r

    My prediction is that the most popular video ever on YouTube will be that elbow plant to Obama’s face if it ever goes public. You know somebody had their iPhone out…

  • Dunce Biden

    1. Just buy IP offerings legally. There are plenty of places to shop and get great deals that aren’t ripping off the IP owner.

    2. Obama is the worst thing to ever happen to the US. He’s a job-killing machine who loves illegal immigrants and greatly favors Muslims over all others. He bows to our enemies, dictators, and despots. He has never run even a lemonaid stand as a child yet sweet talks his way into the White House as a Manchurian candidate with ridiculous meaningless slogans like “yes we can” and “hope and change”. We got change alright, and it SUX! We need to vote out this socialist clueless fool and vote in a government that will reduce spending, encourage business, and get us JOBS! We need to stop being the world police, Europe — you can have UN headquarters and pay 3/4 of their wasteful bloated budget each year — we want out! Btw, VP Joe Biden is the stupidest politician who has ever lived – anywhere – anytime. Look up moron in the dictionary, there is a photo of Joe Biden.

  • annieoakley

    Well….Itunes is still up, music is still available. You may have to pay for it, however, which is as it should be. Music is someone’s product. Someone’s livelihood. They deserve to get paid for it, just as you deserve to get paid for a day’s work.

    Oh, look! Amazon.com is still up, as if Barnesandnoble.com. Again, legitimate places you can pay for the products you want. Wow! Look! Want a handbag? Saksfifthavenue.com and NeimanMarcus.com….two locations where you cany buy a designer handbag, are up and running just fine.

    I guess that means these sites are operating within the law, selling the tunes, books, scarves, purses, etc. at a price, paying attention to copyright laws and the passing of intellectual property.

    I find it infinitely amusing that the folks on this site see this as some violation of your rights. Your right to do what? Steal? Since when has that been a right? How do you feel when your property is taken from you without your being paid for it? How do you feel when you devote time and energy to something that is intended to make you money, then you don’t receive any pay for your efforts? You’d probably be suing the crap out of an employer who tried that with you. This is no different. If you want the tune, the scarf, the purse, you need to pay the price that was set by the manufacturer and the artist. If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it.

    Sites that pave the way for purchasing of illegal goods or the sharing of intellectual property without any compensation to the artist should be shut down. If you’re not doing anything against the law, you wouldn’t have any worry about your site being shut down.

  • Jacked

    LOL you all that for for obama deserve what you got. Plan and simple.

  • GrX

    wow people here are so un-educated to say the least

    copying something making a complete copy while leaving the original in place is not STEALING

    Stealing is when you physically take something and leave the person without the item i.e. i steal your car i have it you dont.

    the people stealing is the industry but the second we reply about price fixing different costs for the exact same music DRM restrictions not being allowed to do with things we buy because of DRM and restrictions

    this then falls on deaf ears have you never thought it’s your fault and the industry’s fault by making it impossible to play/convert paid bought media into something i can use on my hardware/devices?

    its the industry’s fault because they slapped DRM and restrictions on everything and like i’ve said before PEOPLE DO NOT FORGET why should we???

    remember all the LEGAL DRM services which just decided to shut down and not even a sorry or we will give you money back or at least an alternative???

    i have over 900 + bought songs from msn music service, virgin music service which is now completely useless since they shut down their activation servers without a single thought for all their customers???

    who’s stealing now??? thats nearly 1 grand worth of money i have paid out and what do i have to show for it???

    so shut the hell up about how bad copying and downloading is because when you do it the legal way we are the one that gets our money stolen.

    once again this will fall on deaf ears when ever someone mentions its the industry who’s stealing you people screaming from the roof tops about how bad copying is just stick your head deep in the sand.

    900+ songs useless nearly a grand paid out so if i don’t re-download all the songs again from p2p etc i’m shit outa luck and no-body is going to do a damn thing to help me

    but if i do decide to download the same songs from p2p / sites i’m stealing ????

    you people want it all your own way you want the whole pie and then enjoy eating it too.

    it’s the media’s fault i keep saying this, if the media industry did not dRM everything from day 1 none of us who remember being screwed over would ever need to re-download our purchased content.

  • ConservativeVoice

    What an injustice that your illegal downloads are stopped.

  • Thomas_in_Newport

    (124 Nov 26, 2010 at 23:17 by steve mcQueen ) GWB has been out of office for 2 years. The democrats have been in control of Congress for 4 years. So when are you going to stop blaming the GWB administration? You do know that most of the stories you heard about the Patriot Act were lies don’t you? Did you ever do any research on your own or just take what you were told by the anti-American crowd (democrats) as fact? And it is friends of the Obama administration that are selling the “porn scanners” for “airport security” even though they admit they don’t make anything more secure. Love your country — Fear your government!

  • Barlow

    Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.

    We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.

    Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.

    You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.

    You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. Many of these problems don’t exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract . This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours. Our world is different.

    Cyberspace consists of transactions, relationships, and thought itself, arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.

    We are creating a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth.

    We are creating a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.

    Your legal concepts of property, expression, identity, movement, and context do not apply to us. They are all based on matter, and there is no matter here.

    Our identities have no bodies, so, unlike you, we cannot obtain order by physical coercion. We believe that from ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonweal, our governance will emerge . Our identities may be distributed across many of your jurisdictions. The only law that all our constituent cultures would generally recognize is the Golden Rule. We hope we will be able to build our particular solutions on that basis. But we cannot accept the solutions you are attempting to impose.

    In the United States, you have today created a law, the Telecommunications Reform Act, which repudiates your own Constitution and insults the dreams of Jefferson, Washington, Mill, Madison, DeToqueville, and Brandeis. These dreams must now be born anew in us.

    You are terrified of your own children, since they are natives in a world where you will always be immigrants. Because you fear them, you entrust your bureaucracies with the parental responsibilities you are too cowardly to confront yourselves. In our world, all the sentiments and expressions of humanity, from the debasing to the angelic, are parts of a seamless whole, the global conversation of bits. We cannot separate the air that chokes from the air upon which wings beat.

    In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of Cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media.

    Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws, in America and elsewhere, that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish.

    These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty, even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the Planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts.

    We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before.

  • Joe

    Obama promised “change” and he is keeping his promise.
    Obama did say that he wanted to fundamentally transform America and Obama did tell Joe the plumber about wealth redistribution. We just were not paying attention!!!
    He just failed to mention that the kind of change he wanted was to transform us to a communist country.

  • notme

    and some people like steve mqueen like to delude themselves that obama sits above it all and to think that is to be very naive. Wake up already he knows exactly who is doing what in his politcal party.

  • Anonymous

    The old generation just doesn’t understand. The young generation has no problem with sharing. Imagine that!

  • WhiteSnow

    Good Lord!! No more freedoms in America.

    Now is the time you must read a book out about Americans who take a stand against federal tyranny. It could be our destiny.

    Great book on Americans fighting back.

    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

  • Dunce Biden

    “Hope and change” is really “hoax and chains” Obumbler is the Marxist Muslim!

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  • Pilot.Dave

    What a joke – now you know why I call them “The Department of Homeless Security”

    Because they don’t have a clue on security…. The Porn industry learned 15 years ago when businesses started putting up content filters that your URL can change in a heart beat… So, make it torrent–finder.com – just keep hopping – they are not taking the site, but rather hijacking where the DNS is pointed to.

    BONE HEADS !! Start actually enforcing the LAWS we have now, not the NAZI laws some laim-brain is trying to push through congress.

  • Max

    Look the American president is a black liberal dude so deal with it.

    Facilitating a crime is in itself a crime. Only you fan boys who think you have some right to steal the property of others have a problem with these particular sites going down. If/when they take down cnn or msnbc type of sites then we can talk, until then cry me a river…

  • Patrick Henry

    “GIVE ME FREEDOM OR GIVE ME DEATH”…..
    this is what you dumbass 20 yr olds get for putting these fucking marxist assholes in charge of the country, enjoy your nightmare, maybe you wont be so progressive in 2012. Lets hope so …..

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  • GrX

    @annieoakley read 460 enough said.

  • Adam Smith

    I’m speaking in generalities, not about any of the seized sites or how they are being seized. If there is a website which knowingly engages in an illegal activity, shouldn’t it be shut down? If you are an artist, and you see your music being trafficked all over, wouldn’t you want it stopped? Or suppose you own a designer clothes company, and some Chinese firm is pumping out replicas at 5% the price. Isn’t this a crime? A lot of people are complaining about liberty when really they just want their stuff for free. I’m a libertarian, but I realize allowing the theft of property rights isn’t liberty, it’s theft.

  • just sayin

    Stop stealing copywrited property and guess what. The domain won’t be jacked and you won’t go to jail.

    I can’t stand this administration either they don’t represent America or it’s values.

    But that doesn’t give you the right to break the law and expect to get away with it.

  • TGC

    Ahhhh, they are wedging their foot in the door! This is what the progressives do, they always start out by getting a foot in the door, then they slowly start forcing the door open and then before you know it, they are in your house! They did it with abortion…remember when it was only in case of rape and incest? Now we have worked our way up to partial birth abortions, and some in the company of your president that say parents should be able to kill their kids within the first 3 years of life. Gun control is another,started out with “get rid of those cheap saturday night specials” then they kept pushing and pushing to include a lot more firearms. This will be the same, they start with the “illegal” sharing of media, then it will be the sharing of ideas, then it will be complete control of the internet. Just sit back and watch, 5 years from now you will all be shaking your head wondering what the hell happened. Just wait.

  • Confused

    What does this have to do with Homeland Security?

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  • Wake UP

    In a free country, EVERYONE should have an opportunity to present their side in a court of law. No matter how guilty they appear to be on the surface, they still have a right to defend themselves BEFORE being punished.

    The government does NOT have a right to just decide who is guilty and who is not.

  • are you scared

    Of course, the ones who are complaining most likely voted for this regime. You get what you vote for, people. I’m not too fond of the Nazi references, but even I can understand. But for all of you shouting about how terrible America is, let us not forget that it was America that brought us most of the innovations that allowed us to even have the Internet today. Those of you from other countries, who is it that the word looks to for help…? Could it be wicked, evil America?

    I don’t agree with this seizure at all. I’m not even all that surprised it happened. And of course, our ICE department says it has too much on its hands to watch the borders properly, but yet they find time to do things like this. Let me tell you something, Big Gov’t: Get your damn priorities straight, and get out of my damn Internet.

  • Liberum1776

    These are all TEST cases. This isn’t the end, it is not even the end of the beginning….it is the beginning of the beginning and only going to get worse.
    Don’t talk about enforcing borders with the internet when ICE won’t even enforce the physical borders of the USA.
    As for Nazi Germany, if they had had this type of power back then, they would have exercised it.
    Boyz and girlz, you had better prepare yourself for what is coming: The Second Dark Ages.

  • cygnusX1

    This totalitarianism will end when Americans vote this regime out in 2012. For you Dems who can’t yet admit you elected an idiot, this never happened when republicans were in office.

    And you eurowenies can complain all you want but it was good old American ingenuity that developed the internet. That’s why the DNS servers are in the US. But hey, were nice well share.

  • philg

    Why no porn sights in all this? Cause they contibute via the man as does the music industry.

  • Jim Kress

    Where’s Tim McVeigh when you need him?

  • Buck N Farack

    Yo, “just sayin” I’m all for prosecuting anyone for stealing, no matter what form.
    But, when the US, way too powerful, BHO gv’mtn starts hijacking domains in any form it’s way over the line.
    Where does it end?
    This is a form of censorship clear and simple.

  • WestCoaster

    Anyone else think that this might just be a hoax hatched for the purpose for creating a ‘false flag’ event for the extreme right-wing fascists here in the U.S.? What better way to whip up the paranoids into believing that the ‘revolution’ is on?
    On the face of it, it sure seems like a hoax, although to be honest the technicalities involved are not my strong suit. Judging from some of the Obama bashing going on it sure seems like a made-to-order event for the militant right’s political advantage.

  • GrX

    where was it wrote into law the only reason to make noise “music” was to be paid for it???

    should people who’s walking around in my local super market talking to each other in a general convo be paid for it????

    so why should someone beating a drum or string on a musical instrument be paid for this ?????

    i’m going to take a dump on the toilet in a moment just wondering do you think i should be paid for doing this???

    music is and always will be for people to listen to and enjoy and more so for the people making the music all they should want is to get their music out and noticed by millions of people not so they can buy it but just because the person making the music singing wants to be noticed and thanked for their talents not paid why should i pay to listen to noise just because you make it???

  • Bob

    “by just sayin” So, do you really believe that the Obama government is all good and will only use their unlimited power to go after people that are doing wrong?
    If that’s the case, why doesn’t he arrest all the self admitted tax cheats he has in his cabinet?

  • ken hay

    How is that hope and change doing for all you I d i o t s that voted for The great one now?

  • WhatDaFork

    DHS can’t catch Osama. It can’t catch a terrorist. But to show it is serious about these things, it shuts down web sites that have nothing to do with terrorism. And to show it is really really serious, DHS will probably have TSA go to the site operators and squeeze their balls.

  • Truther

    HA! I just happen to figure out why the site was seized by the Feds. Goto http://wikileaks.org/ and look at the lower right hand corner. Spread the word.

  • Former eBay’r

    I would wager that those posters who think that it’s acceptable for DHS/ICE to just close down websites without a court hearing are the least educated, least patriotic, and lowest earners on this site. Perfect candidates for jobs as TSA gate inspectors.

  • Perplexed

    So did ICE frisk the groin of the website owners or just put them through the porno scan?

    And I bet not one illegal alilen was caught in this operation.

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  • jackro

    While I hate the Fed crackdown, lets remember that sharing a file that contains copyrighted material is technically theft, unless you own the CD.

  • shawn

    Eric Holder of the Department of Justice is the biggest pussy. He’ll sue Arizona for protecting it’s own border (because the feds wont’), and in his spare time he’ll shut down file-sharing sites. I’m tired of these leftist faggots.

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  • US

    You all in Europe and elsewhere couldn’t get enough of Obummer in 2008. A lot of us here new it all along.

  • Jacked up

    Leave it to the Democrats . You Bastards don’t get my vote in 2012 .Thanks Harry Reid . Obama and the rest of the scum …..

  • Ohnoes

    Oh no, we may actually have to pay for music, movies and other software, what a shame.

  • Little Black Duck

    Bet they were happy to have the support of those sites when we were all drunk on hope-n-change flavored kool-aid.

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  • g00ber PyLe

    This is a total outrage.

    I am sure this type of random action would not hold up in court.

    I think the people who did this should be jailed and also any supporter of this action (you know who you are) should have their citizenship revoked, deport them and their families ASAP !

    This will not stand.

  • Sheriff Buford T. Justice

    May I remind everybody here that the Google (owner of YouTube) hosts MANY MANY copyrighted files that are view, listened to AND download by hundreds of thousands of users DAILY !!!

    You won’t see Google shutdown by the Feds.

    This is SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT at its WORST.

  • FalUNgrs

    @Max
    LOL so you only think its a problem when they take major liberal news sites down? I dont think they would ever let that happen you moron, you should have said fox news,drudge,etc(sites that conflict with their agenda)

  • bubba

    board full of nutbags …WOW !

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  • curious

    I’m just curious. As 460 pointed out and GrX after him.

    What about music I legally own? Say I have thousands of cds, or even hundreds of movies, can I download them? I could easily rip them using iTunes or any other program, but it would take time. Time I’d rather not waste. I mean I do own the albums and movies and for sheer convenience and as a back-up (because discs do wear out eventually) I think I should be able to download them. I’m not stealing, because technically I own copies. And iTunes allows me to make copies of my albums to put on my iPod.

    So what’s the status on that? Or if I want my collection digitally preserved, do I have to buy everything all over again? And in formats I may not like?

  • Anonymous

    What does Homeland Security have to do with closing down piracy websites? The Obama Administration seems to be using its broad powers gained to fight terrorism to instead go after domestic intellectual property thieves. This reminds me of when I used to work in a Child Support agency – the federal govt mandated that all financial accounts in the nation be checked against a database of past-due obligors so that the govt could easily identify and seize the assets of people. The way that FIDM (Financial Institution Data Match) system actually worked meant that thousands of banks sent all of their account information (not just past-due obligors) in to the feds. I (and thousands of other people) had access to these peoples’ private financial information. Congress forced this on the financial industry, telling critics that it would only be used for limited purposes – child support enforcement. But everyone knew the truth – that they had created a powerful weapon to track people and their assets and that it would be used for broader purposes. I’ll bet that Homeland Security is using the FIDM database now. Big Sister – under the cloak of Homeland Security – now can assert its invasive, broad powers against the individual, all in the name of fighting terrorism.

  • Ranger_Ric

    Hey, most of you kids voted for this Marxist…. how do you like your Marxist president now? How is that hope and change working out for you kids who have recently finished college? Found a job yet?

    Think before you vote next time.

  • Rational Person

    I’m loving all of these people coming out of the woodwork to defend web sites that they depend on in order to rip off entertainment, or web sites that specialize in selling counterfeit crap pretending to be desginer goods, imported through Nigeria with much of the proceeds going to lovely groups like the murderous Islamists crushing what’s left of civilization in places like Somalia.

    Waaaa! Waaa! Waaaaaa! How will we all get our free, stolen entertainment? How can we claim to respect our favorite musicians and actors and filmmakers while we steal from them if web sites that are set up specifically to facilitate ripping off works can’t continue to violate the law? Waaa! We’re the entitlement generation, and every creative person out there should be our pet entertainment slaves! Waaaaa!

  • internet theft victim

    I have had content, ideas, code and artwork stolen from me by individuals, corporations and competitors over the last ten years – all through the Internet. And I do not agree with this at all. The government has no right to yank a web site without due process, sorry but it’s un-American.

  • TJP

    If you allow a trial or grace period on sites like these, they’ll just use that time to notify all their users of a new domain – one that’s not hosted through ICANN and is therefore not vulnerable to seizure. So if you’re serious about killing a site, you can’t give it any warning.

    As for whether these sites deserved it, can you name one site on the list that wasn’t selling illegal products, telling people where they could download illegal files, or promoting illegal activity? And I’m not even talking about a few users doing it, I’m talking about that being the primary focus of the site. This move actually PROMOTES freedom for content providers, just not for the scum who think they deserve everything for free.

    And yes, it’s on Obama’s watch, and the Democrats have shown a willingness to stomp out free speech, so we better keep an eye out and make sure no domains are shut down in future because of “hate speech” as opposed to actual illegal activity.

  • Anonymous

    Folks, this isn’t even a difficult problem to solve. It just takes a little effort on the part of the community.

    Anybody can put up a DNS server. Nearly all Operating Systems and routers allow for a primary DNS server and a backup. Setup a new set of Free root servers off-shore someplace and encourage people to point to one as their backup name server. As long as you use unique root names, they won’t interfere with the addresses that ICANN controls at all.

  • Brady McElligott

    Doesn’t EVERYONE feel safer from domestic attacks, now that the “Department of Homeland Security” has morphed into the “Department of Copyright Protection”?

  • Anonymous

    Fuck you all. As a producer, I personally would like to make money for the work I do. You know what happens when some jackass torrents shit? The people who spent tons of money and put in lots of work get ripped off. I guess none of you would be opposed to working for free…?

  • Dave C

    Some of these sites aren’t hosted in the US,but the stolen intellectual property being traded was created by, paid for, and owned by US citizens and US companies. Why you thought you could violate other people’s property rights with impunity, forever, is beyond me.

  • Kmart

    Remember, this comes from B. Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. They support destruction of freedom, destruction of privacy in the name of government control.

  • John

    Hi all. I don’t actually use these sites, but I was curious about how our government will be using infomration from the new page that pops up from the seized sites. Went to view the source on one page and see that they have google analytics set up to track page hits. Interesting…I wonder what they’ll do with the information that I went to a site to check out their jpeg… am I going to get a call at some point?

  • Kaptdan

    I found it interesting that the first half of the comments were largely anti-American, while the second half were mostly anti Obama regime. I imagine that this is a consequence of the time difference between the two continents.

    The current regime is governing AGAINST the will of a majority of the American people. On November 2, we took the first step to regain control of our government, but it will take another two years to complete the process.

    I should remind our friends overseas that a major factor in the election of this tyrant and his rogue regime was the naive belief of many voters that his election would make the rest of the world love us and undo the damage done by the Bush administration, supported by the swooning crowds in Europe during his campaign.

    A second factor in his election was his effective use of the internet to raise money.

    Had enough of this, Europe? We have. We are taking our country back whether YOU like it or not!

  • Watchman

    Did anyone read the article? These are legitimate seizures of property where ILLEGAL activity was occuring (i.e. counterfeit goods, illegal music, unlicensed applications, etc.) This is no different than if it were the FBI moving in on some warehouse where illegal goods were being sold.

    Glad to see this done. Maybe the legitimate sites selling legal and legitimate goods can now make a living for themselves instead of the illegal money mongers selling counterfeit goods.

  • Freedom

    Glad they shut down these criminals. You are stealing you dirtballs. Good on you USA!!

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  • ScottK-n-Texas

    Obama mentioned in one of his speeches his desire to create a national police force with power equal to the military. Seems like he has accomplished that in a secretive, subtle way.

  • Fuck You

    Just a matter of time until they start seizing websites where they do not like what you are saying.

  • BHO

    Hope and Change bitches! Eat a dick!

  • BJP

    I can just see….unless the new Congress does something about this, armed rebellion could be just around the corner. God help us. This non citizen, who is pretending to be our POTUS has got to go. Palin 2012.

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  • eBayFakes

    What about eBay- more IP fraud there than you can shale a stick at.

  • mike

    if you guys want some insight from apparently reasonable people read

    386 dg100
    504 internet theft victim

    two people who can actually be affected or have been affected by the internet usage (be it for good or bad purposes). and actually read what theyre saying.

    thats what a lot of people have been saying on here, and many more seem more content to blame the republicans or democrats or call everyone here thieves.

    MOST PEOPLE HERE AREN’T CONDONING PIRACY IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. THEY ARE AGAINST CENSORSHIP. OR AT LEAST CENSORSHIP WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

  • geolittle

    Back in the USSA. Homeland Security = Gestapo.

  • THE_DOJ_HLS_NIPR_ARE ALL_RIAA_MPAA_COCK_SUCKERS

    LMFAO..

    THE DOJ, HLS, NIPR ARE A JOKE.. HEY DOJ, HLS, NIPR WHY DONT YOU GUYS TAKE DOWN GOOGLE ASWELL.. I HEAR GOOGLE IS ALSO A BIT-TORRENT SEARCH ENGINE ASWELL..

    YOU FUCKERS AT THE DOJ, HLS, NIPR ARE JUST THE THE VICTIMS OF THE RIAA, MPAA,.. WAIT YOUR NOT THE VICTIMS YOU GUYS JUST LIKE IT UP THE ASS BY THE RIAA, MPAA

  • LIndsey Lohan

    Democrats control the White House, House, Senate, Supreme Court, most state governorships and have a slobbering JournOList media who will lick their boots on command.
    Now we see the Nazi-style dictatorship tactics against a free internet. And a government that is using an iron hand to reach into every aspect of the life of the American citizen.
    I never want to hear bitching about Bush and the Republicans again.

  • captaincameron

    ICE? Immigration and Customs Enforcement is policing the Internet? What about policing, say, the borders and ports instead?

  • scrappy

    This is what happens when you vote Democrat!

  • ChuckVoice

    Isn’t the sensible response to launch a massive cyber attack the Homeland Security site?

  • Bob

    Why Homeland security?

    Because this is just a “foot in the door”. They are leading up to taking control of any internet site that contradicts the governments propaganda. Once people accept that they have the right to shut down sites at will, they can make any excuses they want to shut down those critical of Obama.

  • WE ARE A LAW ABIDE COUNTRY

    If you were doing something illegal then you should be shutdown. Who are you to be above the law? If you were not doing something illegal then by all means use the law and get it right. We are the best in the world because we are a law abide country; our government may not be what we want but try Iran, China, Russia, etc. So good for Home Land that is what we Americans expect of our government. Sorry fellows if you did not like it then move to the above countries, you probably will love it. I love America yea!!

  • SARileyMan

    Let me get this straight: It seems pretty clear that most or all of these sites were obviously fronts for illegal operations–namely, theft and counterfeiting–yet we’re supposed to condemn a government for responding to a massive criminal conspiracy just because it’s on the Internet? Some of you people don’t have a brain in your heads. Or you just want to continue to be able to steal property from other people because, let’s face it, you’re a lowlife who thinks others should pay your way.

  • Lennie

    @21 and @54 you both seem to forget the website itself is hosted in the US.

    So if they want to do something, they can do that with or with DNS, possible even both.

  • Keith

    So the feds can do this, but cannot stop wikileaks. Sounds peculiar to me. With all the knowledge of computers in this country you would think they could stop the leaks or cause them troubles instead of what they have done.

  • Meteorite

    The US Defense Department created the internet, so they have the ability to monitor it and manipulate it at will. People seem to forget or overlook the fact that the internet is a US military project.

    In that context, none of this is surprising. The government can pull the plug on the internet if it really wants to.

  • darkdata

    They want to censor the internet its the only form of media they haven’t yet I hope all the user of the internet will one day stand up and say enough is enough and quit submiting to this garbage

  • we run the internet

    keep trying US gov. You will always be trying to catch up to us…………

  • Hilarious

    I think, judging by the hysterics in the replies, they did it for the lulz.

  • Stan LS

    Hah, a bunch of kiddies crying about not being able to steal copyrighted material anymore. Aw…

    Ask mommy to raise your allowance. Or get a job, maybe?

  • dg100 is right but confused

    gd100, you think the “right wing nuts” support this power grab? You are very brainwashed. The right wants the Constitution adhered to. The strong powerful government is being pushed by te left. Try taking an honest, objective look at the polocy positions of the democrat party. Basically it comes down to two things. 1) the governemnt needs to control everything. 2) People should not be able to advance themselves by working hard. If they try, take away their ability through an aggressive tax system.

  • Anonymous

    All you people that voted for this administration are having buyers remorse now! This is just the first step to controlling the info you are allowed to recieve. The communications zcar has already said he thinks the governmment should control the media outlet like good old Chaves. You have just seen the beginning. Freedom of not only the press but, of any form of information should be totally hands off. The can’t go close down a newspaper. If a corporation has a problem with copyright the have courts & scumbag attornies to handle. It is not the gov. job.

  • TSA Steals dignity!

    Obama is cool with the TSA stealing our dignity in airports, but doesn’t like his fat cat friends loosing their cash.

  • Trent

    I’d like to see some constructive ideas from all you whiners on how to combat copyright infringement. The unbridled theft online is grossly abusive.

  • ICANTWAITFOR2012

    Who ever said Obama wasnt a Solialist. THIS IS PROOF!

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  • Musician

    So all this hubub is about you believing that you have the right to do whatever you please with the intellectual creations and rights of others? That the Creators of these works should not be paid for their creations?
    Just wondering?

  • TM

    I just don’t understand some of the sites seized… like usaburberryscarf.com… Burberry scarves are what? A secret terrorist cell? Or is it counterfeit burberry scarves ring that they finally got around to closing down? Laced with the finest crack cocaine?

    Well if its the last one, damn I missed out big time.

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  • ICANTWAITFOR2012

    Who ever said Obama wasnt a Solialist. THIS IS PROOF!

    Impeach and Repeal Baby!

    Say no to O!!!!

    The Tea Party has just begun and the Democrats are not welcome to this PARTY!!!

  • Not Surprised in Detroit

    Nice Graphic; NAZI’s love their eagles. Ben Franklin was right, we should have gone with the turkey… or the rattle snake.

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  • groundling

    what happened to due process

  • Get real Trent

    Trent,

    It’s easy. The music industry is no better than anyone else. If something is being stolen from them, there are 50 state DA’s they can ask to investigate and bring charges. Doesn’t is scare you that the government believes they have the power to simply destroy what they don’t like without a trial?

  • MW

    US Constitution, 4th amendment:

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    So where are the warrants? They do have to be served – that’s part of due process. The question of whether or not they were distributing copyrighted content is irrelevant. Due process means that a court has to be presented with evidence enough to justify a warrant to seize the sites (site owners’ property), and then those warrants must be served to the site owners. This is what constitutes due process for siezure or searches of property.

    What is happening here, is the government is undermining the due process protections guaranteed by the Constitution. While many of you take the position that ‘They were stealing, good for the Feds for shutting them down!’, you’re missing the bigger picture:

    If they can seize THEIR property without due process……. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE FEDS DECIDE THEY CAN SEIZE YOUR PROPERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS TOO?

    It’s the same question as with the first amendment – some speech os abhorrent, or repulsive, but it still MUST BE PROTECTED – lest someone someday decide YOUR speech should be censored, too.

    Stop reacting on emotion, and take the time to think, and reason. They count on you to feel and react without thinking….. this is how they chip away at the rule of law, and the Constitution, and expand their power at the expense of your freedoms.

  • ConstitutionalCrisis

    The act of “bypassing due process and seizing ownership of property or depriving the liberty of “citizens” without trial” is in and of itself a treasonable offense under the constitution.

    Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt and FDR did the same crap! They will be going after news websites next and then the only information will be “officially approved” information.

    Welcome to the era of Hype and Che!

  • charles

    The US constitution was suspended years ago. They usually aren’t this blatant about it. Obviously they have accumulated enough power and control that they no longer feel the need to put on a dog and pony show about it.

  • iRobot
  • Me

    More of government intrusion and the forceful take over and control of everyone’s lives.

    It is time for a Revolution against Government in all ways, shapes and forms before freedom is just a word we used to know the meaning of.

  • TheGovernment

    They did’t cease http://www.506pyt.com. What gives? could it be that they just can’t do it or they are too afraid? I would pick too afraid to kick the giant and wake it up. There will soon be a government proof internet communication method that they will have no control over and never will. Push just came to shove. It has begun.

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  • Bob in Baltimore

    Wow. Judging by all the hate comments, I have to assume most of the posters here are either product thieves, or wittle boys who don’t want to pay for their music or movies. Pathetic losers, both.

  • See what happens when you vote Democrat?

    To all you folks who voted for Obama – you have no one to blame but yourselves.

    We tried to warn you, but you all were oh so busy hating Bush to even bother to listen.

    I still say stand by my statement that anyone who voted “Democrat” in 2008 should have their voting rights taken away for good.

  • Hans

    why dont DHS seize weikileaks..WTF

  • Greggsan

    WTF does copyright infringement have to do with Homeland Security?

  • Get real Trent

    Trent,
    Copyright infringement is NOT the issue here. It’s just the excuse!

    The music industry is no better than anyone else. If something is being stolen from them, there are 50 state DA’s they can ask to investigate and bring charges. Doesn’t is scare you that the government believes they have the power to simply destroy what they don’t like without a trial?

  • Kaine-

    #16 There are MANY similarities between what the Nazis did and what is slowly happening here. Just bury your head in the sand and believe that the government has your best interests in mind. Also, the USA is NOT a democracy, its a Republic. You should read up on your history and maybe take a civics class.

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  • day night

    Not sure yet if I should be scared…

  • definitions for idiots

    here is something for people who can’t define words properly.

    Socialism: an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.

    Fasciscm: a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.

    Highlights of fascism (because that little bit is easy enough to twist to your needs for some of you): Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong. They claim that culture is created by the collective national society and its state, that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus they reject individualism. Viewing the nation as an integrated collective community, they see pluralism as a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its entirety. They advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the fascist state and the fascist movement. They identify violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality. Fascism rejects the concepts of egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favor of action, discipline, hierarchy, spirit, and will. They oppose liberalism and Marxism for being exclusive economic class-based movements.

    Seriously, get a clue.

  • ICANTWAITFOR2012

    Let us NEVER forget this and ALL of the damage the Democrats are doing!

    GM
    10% unemployment
    Tarp
    $14 Trillon Deficit
    Health Care

    The list goes on and on and on and on

    Impeach and repeal baby!

    SAY NO TO O!!!!!!

  • Amazed

    Bob in Baltimore

    Based on your post I assume you are incapable of understnding the real issue.

  • MW

    Homeland security has to be involved with this, to set a precedent for them to have authority over the internet. In time, it will be expanded to include the authority to shut down sites with opimions of dissent against the progressive party line, and then news outlets that post stories embarrassing to the administration.

    Like this site.

    Wake up, and demand a return to constitutional government.

  • a clue

    for people who dont know the difference.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

    moderate my post, i was just saving people time, cuz i know they wont look if it doesnt suit them.

  • Captain Obvious

    I am not a Bush supporter, but this is happening with Obama in office. Bush sucked but Obama was a “change” for the worse. Also note that Guantanemo is still open, we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan (even more troops) and our economy is crashing. Bush may have started all of this but I thought Obama was going to do something different. Oh wait, he is!…he is seizing domain names.

  • Gramsci

    This is to just “test” the waters for more excuses to shut down sites at will. Lets see …is Drudge fair and balanced? Is Limbaugh a threat to the Left? (All 1st amendment threats) We finally understand that we do not have a real “God bless America” President in the WH. Instead we have a full blown apologizing Socialist/Marxist pretending to be President. He is the real deal.

  • showmerancher

    I have absolutely no problem with ICE/Homeland Security enforcing the law. What I worry about is their sense of priority. 27 websites v.s. 30 million illegal immigrants… According to the Constitution, one of the PRIMARY duties of government is the security of the people; and allowing virtually open borders where anyone, including terrorists can just walk into the country seems to be a much more significant problem than these websites. I think that this is manpower, until the border problem is solved, would be better utilized ON THE BORDER.

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  • Zman280

    AMAZING how many slimeballs show up in these posts – maybe 98% of the posts are from idiots with no respect for the rights of inventors/creators of products. And no clue what a complete loss of those protections would mean to them and all around them. AMAZING and frightening that so many young adults have absolutely no sign of a decent upbringing. My children and their peers have apparently failed as parents.

  • It’s All Downhill From Here!

    While Janet Crapolitano (DHS, baggage-girl for Illegals) was feeling-up everyone at Airports, another wave of Oslama appointed Czars makes their move on the net. Next month ALL cellphone numbers will be made public, unless you register with the Govt. (here: https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx). These assclowns who cannot even control a border, or competitively run a post office are now going to keep your cell phone number safe from telemarketers. Thank you Hollywood liberals for contributing to a Kenyan Bastard. I wouldn’t pay to watch or listen to your crap, but I just might steal it to see what the enemy is up to.

  • Bob in Baltimore

    Amazed –

    What’s the matter? Your bestest illegal site get zapped?

    No more freebie music for thee?

  • MW

    They aren’t enforcing the law, they are MAKING the law.

    None of these sites have been tried and convicted in court, seen warrants served, had a grand jury convened. These are what is supposed to happen BEFORE property is seized.

  • Canadian

    You would think Homeland Security would have better things to do. Hunting bittorrent search engines will not make Americans safer any more than masturbating to full body scans and feeling peoples’ junk at airports. Meanwhile, air freight comes into the country freely, delivering bombs to Jewish organizations. Priorities people?

  • Government Joke

    Funny how the government can put a stop to something they have been doing for many years, ripping off the tax payers and laughing about it while attacking others for doing the same things.

  • Samuel Adams

    Looks like the Tea Party folks were right.

  • WE ARE A LAW ABIDE COUNTRY

    You can write a whole bible on the law and the 4th amendment but we will not use tax payers money to serve thieves who know they are stealing. We need to hit them and hit them hard. They should be arrested and then charged and then asked to pay for the time used to investigate them. So you can take your lesson on the 4th the 5th the 101st amendment and shove it. This is the time to ensure thieves do not get away with it. Before you go to bed tonight think about it if you did not pay for something fake and illegally sold to you!! How about going to your nearest pharmacy and paying for medicines for a loved one some idiot sold to store chains and these medicines are fake. Go Home Land you got my vote. Get them and hit them hard right in their pockets. Yea!! I wish I can buy all the investigators a beer! Go Home Land Go Go….. yeaaaaaaa Merry Christmas to all of you thieves and fakes and law breakers.

  • THEFT

    How much legal content is passed through torrent, i.e. shit you have actually paid for? Every bit of whining here looks like its coming from over privileged kids “stealing” content they haven’t paid for. I knock down torrents on my networks because 90% is just fucking illegal. Get a job, pay pay for shit, and quit the whining. If its all legal there wouldn’t be a problem. Go borrow your neighbors car for a month without asking, paying, or getting any permission. Think they will mind.

  • ; )

    Look up DARPA, they created the Internet…they can do whatever they want with it…

  • ICANTWAITFOR2012

    Its funny how Liberals are Liberials until they grow up or until there rights are also taken.

    Concervatives think ahead and are critical in there thinking.

    Like the FUTURE DAMAGE THIS WILL CAUSE OUR CHILDREN!!!

    HELLO!

  • jbspry

    Can someone explain to me how any of this relates to “Homeland Security”? The DHS is being transformed into a general-purpose tool of repression before our very eyes.
    THIS is the REAL significance of this story.

  • MW

    Bob in Baltimore – stop being a drone.

    This isn’t about whether or not someone can download.

    This is about property rights – you seem to love stepping outside the bounds of law to protect the music industry’s property, so much that you don’t care that the SITE OWNERS’ PROPERTY has been stolen every bit as much as any bit torrent music file.

    If it’s wrong for one, it MUST be wrong for both, or the legal system is a sham

  • It’s All Downhill From Here!

    Oops, Thats:
    https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx
    w/o the ) at the end.

  • Justice

    Shutting down commercial enterprises without due process? Well, the guvmint seems to be able to do whatever they want now…..

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  • Joe Citizen

    The Gestapo is now here….. question is, when will it be YOUR door that gets “kicked in”???

  • ChB

    What ever happened to freedom? This seems like content based censorship, which is VERY VERY VERY illegal. Who would like to help hold the government accountable?

  • NotaSociailist

    oooh… now this is very reminiscent of the nazi era.. who and what will they round up next that don’t share their views…
    it’s getting serious folks.. all the things you blamed and imagined during the bush administratin that was not is true…
    now it appears the obama administration is power hungry…
    it may be time to organize and impeach him now

  • devildogg

    as a student of history, the past is full of regimes taking control of the information.
    the old saying is “he who controls the message controls the people”. Most people are too lazy to research for themselves and are content to watch the evening news, and who controls that message? they are not the ones being shut down, go figure

  • Anonymous

    @Mike Godwin….lol…for just the briefest moment I thought “How can he live here in the US and say that…he’s gotta be snockered off his ass…surely he doesn’t believe that??”…=)

  • American Music Producer

    Sucks when you are an artist and these torrent sites steal your work and put it up for free so the rest of the socialist world can steal it then distribute it to EU for free. this is what WE in THE USA call property rights being protected. We Dont depend on the government for our socialist welfare programs. Fuck off to the Torrent users.

  • anon

    Trust me. We Americans are just as pissed that this is happening.

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  • IHateObama

    The left is made up of authoritarian fucktards! God damn all who voted for the scum Marxist Democrats in 2008! We must rise up against these evil bastards!

  • ConstitutionalCrisis

    So lets get this right…

    DHS says that people online are “sharing, stealing or selling copyrighted materials or misrepresenting products as genuine” so they need to shut those websites down to protect us…

    I think this website is very likely guilty of “product misrepresentation”:

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/11/pdf/executive_orders.pdf

    Under the letter of the laws they claim to be enforcing the Center for American Progress has plagiarized “the official seal” of the president for its own purposes and is in violation of the laws cited.

  • KP

    Just so all of you who are not Americans understand, we, the people of the United States of America, do not condone these acts by our govt. Our govt has become tyrannical and most of us would like nothing better than to completely tear it apart. It is a bloated, corrupt monstrosity that no longer performs it’s proper function of simply protecting the individual rights of life, liberty and property.

  • KP

    Just so all of you who are not Americans understand, we, the people of the United States of America, do not condone these acts by our govt. Our govt has become tyrannical and most of us would like nothing better than to completely tear it apart. It is a bloated, corrupt monstrosity that no longer performs its proper function of simply protecting the individual rights of life, liberty and property.

  • Patriot Act

    My cynical side says that this might be a “practice run” for their real objective — the shutting down of political websites, which could far more easily be rationalized as threats to national security. What if this is just a training exercise for the DHS on how to shut down websites? Why is the DHS involved at all? Although I hugely disapprove of copyright infringement, I don’t see what this has to do with national security.

  • Amazed

    Bob in Baltimore

    Grow up. The only site I use for music is iTunes.

    I guess being concerned about government oppression is a topic to far over your head for you to discuss rationally.

  • Anonymous

    What does Homeland Security have to do with closing down piracy websites? The Obama Administration seems to be using its broad powers gained to fight terrorism to instead go after domestic intellectual property thieves. Americans were told that the enforcement tools were necessary to fight terrorism and would only be used for limited purposes – fighting terrorism. But everyone knew the truth – that they had created powerful weapons that would be used for broader purposes. Big Sister – under the cloak of Homeland Security – now can assert its invasive, broad powers against the individual, all in the name of fighting terrorism. If the govt wants to shut down piracy websites, it should do so honestly using laws and methods that were not intended to exclusively fight terrorism. This is where freedom-loving liberals and Tea Party folks should come together – and fight the nanny-state which wants to control and micromanage everyone!

  • Mike

    Awwwww, thieves had their sites taken away. So sad.

  • VincentValentine

    Geez can you imagine the outrage about this if Bush had done it ! My God they pissed their pants when he listened to terrorist overseas phone calls, now with your Hope n Change two bit hustler in office who so many swooned over-you have this and strip searching in airports, socialized healthcare..all within two short years. What next I say ?
    With ALL the really important issues going on in the world this Administration spends its time and money focusing on this crap. Big Brother is everywhere now and don’t doubt it. “Step out of line the Man come and takes you away…”

  • MW

    They paid good money to buy this presidency – so naturally they feel they have a right to the presidential seal

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  • Deborah Gold

    Gov’t man picking on the black folks again. The folks response? Kill each other some more?

  • meghan

    As much as I hate to say this…maybe they are right. I use thepiratebay but I’m sure that some people download way more torrents than they need. I’m going to stop using torrent websites as much as I have in the past. At least the government just went after the websites and not the users..

  • Calvin

    You need to understand that goods and services that are copyrighted are to be used as the property of the owner only. Your low-grade intelligence is revealing itself when you don’t seem to understand that. Wise-up, morons. The law is there for a reason.

  • GPS Tracking

    Tracking System technology will likely be used by the government to monitor your gas mileage usage for taxation purposes. All of these “security measures” are only an attempt to keep an eye on you and “keep us safe”….

  • Immaturity blows

    Zman280 says
    “AMAZING how many slimeballs show up in these posts – maybe 98% of the posts are from idiots with no respect for the rights of inventors/creators of products. And no clue what a complete loss of those protections would mean to them and all around them. AMAZING and frightening that so many young adults have absolutely no sign of a decent upbringing. My children and their peers have apparently failed as parents.”

    BINGO! We have a winner…finally.

    LOL @ all the whining FAIL posts. One would have to be forgiven for thinking that heroin was being denied addicts from the tone of outrage of many posting parties.

    To all of you “F*ck America” types…It is America that created the Internetz. Where’s the gratitude? One only gets to be a child so long; time to grow up.

    Peace, love, honest living FTW!

  • Kevin

    You need to understand that goods and services that are copyrighted are to be used as the property of the owner only. Your low-grade intelligence is revealing itself when you don’t seem to understand that. Wise-up, morons. The law is there for a reason.

  • Principlex

    I didn’t read every comment, but the things missing in the ones I read is Individual Rights. Only if you have a right to your life and your property, can you expect due process and any other procedures to determine whether a crime was committed or not.

    But this Administration is four-square against individual rights. Those are only the “negative rights set forth in the Constitution.” But, those so-called negative rights are there to protect you from the government and are clearly needed in this matter.

    And NO, they can’t do anything they want within the borders of the US. The limit to their power are our Individual Rights. It is this concept that must become reconstituted if we are to have any power in these matters.

  • Sam

    I’d like to see those court orders. If they don’t have court orders, this seems unconstitutional.

  • Jude1

    Just wait till the new Republican congress get it’s fangs in COICA, ICE.

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  • SaneMan

    There is no “freedom to steal,” you scumbag theives. You have no right to take what belongs to others. This is what’s wrong with socialism and kids today; retardation…

  • RacistHomophobeTeaBag

    Why so shocked? None of you saw this coming even with Obama’s new internet czar?

    But is it really just Obama you should be blaming, perhaps you should take a closer look at someone who has a huge influence on policy and has agents in key positions around Obama. Mr. Soros. Perhaps not.

    Also, did Obama really get his lip busted playing basketball? probably. or is that a cover?

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  • Freedom Forever

    We need to start using DarkNets like I2P. If you guys haven’t heard about I2P, it is basically a program that runs on your computer as a router. You can create your own webpages just like on the regular internet, but it is anonymous. On I2p, all websites that people create end in .i2p instead of .com. The government can’t control it. There is even file sharing using IMule and other programs.

  • Bob in Baltimore

    Amazed –

    Sure. I believe you.

    “Oppression”?

    ROFL!

    Yeah, oppressed from having a website selling counterfeit merchandise and/or illegally obtained and distributed music.

    Is that what you mean by government oppression?

    Too funny.

  • Kevin

    Why don’t you people read about copyright law. Then you won’t have anything to complain about.

  • Amazed

    meghan,

    You sound like the people in Germany that relieved that Hitler was just going after the “rich business owners” instead of them. Eventually he had about a dozen “undesireable” groups that he could just seized their property and life. The general public was just relieved that he was going after those “other people” instead of them.

    THE GOVT HAS NO RIGHT TO GO AFTER ANYONE WITHOUT A TRIAL! It is EVERYONES obligation to hold them accountable when they do. And which party is doing it doesn’t matter.

  • OGolly

    All you anti-American bigots don’t get it, do you? PLENTY of Americans feel precisely as you do. It’s not “America” who is the problem; it’s the international elite cartels controlling politics in America that is the real cause of this, and they originate in England and Europe.The reason America is the first to be “pacified’ is because it is not only the largest economy but has historically been the most free. When the U.S. is pacified, the rest of the world is easy pickings.

    Stop your idiotic bemoaning of the problem being egotistical Americans. I’ve traveled around the world, and believe me, Americans are generally the least of the problem. Save your energy to ally with American based groups like EFF who fight these elitist, international corporations who are controlling the government of the Obama administration.

  • maria

    how about shutting down wikileaks, and porn sites? Are you serious, music is a threat?

  • Dennis

    The same argument against piracy is the same argument for open access to the internet.

    The taxpayers created the internet.

    First DARPA military research.

    Second University research
    2a. Student loans – students borrowed tax dollars to pay tuition for university research.

    Thirdly – tax deductions for companies to claim as internet costs as a business expense

    Fourthly – tax bypass. Sales across state lines are normally taxed, but not on the internet.

    Since we taxpayers paid for the internet, we end up subsidizing criminal activity. That is unfair to both the regular taxpayer, and the artist, scientist, desiginer etc… who’s work is stolen also has to pay taxes for having their work stolen from them.

    Also, this argument is used for open access to the internet. Since we taxpayers paid for the internet, and continue to pay the difference for internet deductions, it is not fair for cable companies etc to slow down competitors who have to pay taxes.

    It seems fun at first to steal files, until they steal your work.

  • Dingodude

    I see many of the sites had to do with jerseys and dvds. Now that the NFL, NBA, and MGM franchises are protected I feel so much safer.

    Did they take down Jihad-R-US or WE-bomb-your-infidel-a$$.com?

    Big brother is watching, but they are looking the wrong damn direction.

  • Amazed

    Kevin

    Why don’t you read the Constitution, then you will see what we are upset about.

  • jaydee

    You voted for ‘em….you haven’t seen anything yet!

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  • Jim

    You’re not allowed to steal other people’s stuff. It as though someone came into your house and stole your belongings. The copyright laws should be enforced and if you want steal there should be a consequence. Start paying for what’s not yours. Get over it.

  • Tim

    Holy overreaction batman!

    Comment posters are always full of lulz.

  • SteveT

    We should all feel more secure knowing that billions of our dollars are being spent protecting the homeland from evil & violent sellers of handbags, watches & scarves. We can all sleep better now. All those brave, selfless agents should also sleep well.

    THANK GOD FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY!

  • MW

    Calvin/Kevin/Whoever you are….

    Exactly WHICH law allows ICE and DHS to sieze the property of the site owners without due process?

    You say the law is there for a reason….. which law gives them this right without trial, hearing, warrants, grand jury, etc….?

    What law says they are guilty until proved innocent?

    And which law will *you* one day discover finds you guilty of something, until you manage to prove *your* innocence?

    Wise up.

  • Amazed

    Bob in Baltimore

    Have you seen the conclusive evidence against all of these sites? Has there been a trial?

    Stop embarrasing yourself. Maybe if you read the Constitution you might understand something. And the fact that you assume that anyone opposed to this government abuse of power must be a thief, says a lot more about how you think than it does about anyone else.

    People with integrity want the constitution enforced with integrity, That of course means that sometimes we have to defend the rights of those we may not agree with, such as these web sites.

  • Lindsey Lohan

    First the Fed (under total Democrat control) came for sites peddling ‘illegal’ goods. And I said nothing because of course, they were ‘illegal’.
    Then, the Fed (under total Democrat control) came for sites that were ‘subversive’ to the Fed. And I said nothing because of course, they were ‘subversive’.
    Then the Fed (under total Democrat control) came for sites that disagreed with my politics. And I said nothing because who wants THOSE people around anyway?
    NOW the Fed (under total Democrat control) is taking down my site and I’m screaming like a damned soul. Problem is, there’s no one left to listen.

  • BHO

    STFU, pay your taxes, and take your medicine. I’m far more educated and smarter than any of you. I KNOW WHAT’S BEST!

  • JohnLeeHooker

    I’vegone from inexperienced, to misguided, to incompetent, to crazy.

    I’m now at EVIL. What can Odumbo possibly do next?

  • Lindsey Lohan

    All you silly tools (who are really afraid to admit YOU voted this Obama government into power) who are trying to defend this government’s unjust actions because it goes against what THEY say is illegal or what YOU LIKE to see taken down…
    You of all people will be able to ensure us that this NEW POWER will never be ABUSED by our government, right?

  • MW

    @609 jim

    “You’re not allowed to steal other people’s stuff. It as though someone came into your house and stole your belongings. The copyright laws should be enforced and if you want steal there should be a consequence. Start paying for what’s not yours. Get over it.”

    But it’s okay to break in and steal the site owners’ property?

    The proper and LAWFUL course is to bring charges against the site owners in court, present evidence of wrongdoing, allow the accused to present their exculpatory evidence, and then let a judge and jury decide on guilt and penalty.

    What you’re seeing here is a bypassing of the entire legal process.

    And like a useful idiot, you’re APPLAUDING it!

  • G.W.B.

    Change you can count on.

  • Nemesis Grey

    This all started with the seizure of drug dealers and drug users property, etc. I don’t support drug dealers or users neccessarily, but I had a real hard time with the seizure of property without due process. This is just a small slide down the slope from that. This is a contradictory world. Here’s the equipment to get on the internet, here’s the internet itself, here’s the website offering mp3′s, here’s the terabyte harddrive to save them to, here’s the blank cds, memory cards, memory sticks, blank dvd’s, minidisks, and whatever to save them on, here’s the mp3 player that interfaces with all that technology to enjoy them, but don’t do it. Personally, I’ve bought more cd’s after downloading music than I ever bought before downloading. It was too hard to find music before downloading. Bought too many albums where the single was great, and the rest of the album was pure trash. I have a whole collection of those expensive paperweights. They were complete wastes of money. The music industry had been taking advantage of people in that way for years. Most if any albums I downloaded in the past, I would have never bought anyway.. so no one lost any money. On the other hand, one band I liked so well after downloading songs, I bought their whole discography; all 10 cd’s. To be honest at this point, I am so disgusted with the RIAA for sueing grandmother’s and children, etc., I could be very happy with the music collection I already have.. forever. The music industry takes advantage of both the artists and the end users and have been doing so for years. I would be thrilled if the money wasting, escalade driving, multimillion dollar mansion owning producers of today’s mostly crappy music never had another cent of mine.

  • humm

    so everyone is losing their collective shit because you may actually have to start paying for music, movies and computer programs like the way we used to pre-internet?
    I haven’t purchased a CD in years, but still…it’s like people are getting pissed because laws are actually being enforced.
    This has nothing to do with who’s in office….don’t forget, Bush was the one who created The Dept of Homeland Security, so it would be like blaming Truman for the National Security Act on 1947 which created the CIA, if the CIA did something wrong.

  • Amazed

    Jim,

    You are right. No one has the right to steal other people’s stuff. But that INCLUDES the government.

    Where does it stop? What about in other cases where both sides feel they are right? Should King Obama just “decide”?

    Hey I have a great idea. WHy don’t we have a court system where the PEOPLE get to decide???

  • rbcintexas

    Now tell me that we are not living under tyranny in a Marxist state now!

  • Lindsey Lohan

    Nice to see the Obamabots who SCREAMED BLOODY MURDER about Bush when he tried to look into Library computers, now stand and cheer when Big Government is using powers no one granted to them but themselves to ensure BIG CORPORATE doesn’t lose any money on their merchandise.
    Wake up Liberals! The government may be doing YOUR bidding now, but it’s not going to end here!

  • onthedot

    And people are still wondering why the Tea Party was formed.

  • Anonymous

    Welcom to hope and change, Comrade.
    Or is it Sieg Heil?

  • jahogus

    This just in, The DHS is again wasting resources in something that does not benefit the taxpayers nor makes me feel safer. Thank you government.

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to hope and change, Comrade.
    Or is it Sieg Heil?

  • Lindsey Lohan

    Liberals, don’t give us this ‘Bush created this’ or ‘Bush did it’ crap.

    OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS control EVERYTHING now. If it’s happening, it’s under THEIR watch. THEY could fix it but THEY are the ones promoting it.

    Wake up before it’s too late. This government is moving into control of areas it was never EVER intended for.

  • SniperDroid

    “No Man’s Liberty or Property is
    Secure while the Legislature is in Session”

    — Mark Twain

    How’s that hope and change workin’ out for ‘ya, buddy?

  • obamanazi

    Obama is a nazi and traitor to the U.S. Born in Kenya and not an America Citizen.

    Please bring back the great American leader Bush at least we knew what he was up too! regardless of right or wrong.

  • USPuppet

    Good to see the rights 1000s died for this year were walked all over in secret. This country is such a joke.

  • Thieving little punks

    That’s what all of you are. Crying for justice while hiding behind the flag and ripping people off

  • MediaWhore

    Would like to hear about this on national news, yet seems to be very hush hush…gee wonder why

  • Hugh Jorgan

    You get what you vote for. Then, you get what the MPAA and RIAA lobby for. RIP, American ecommerce.

  • micahel

    REMEMBER IF THESE SITES ARE BEING USED TO BREAK THE LAW in any way then they are subject to seizure, and should be shut down, just like a car being used to transport drugs or money being used to finance terrorism.

    BUT ! if the government is over reaching, abusing the power, not fallowing due process .. well, then they need to be stopped … because it will only get worse !!

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  • chaos

    They came first for the Communists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and by that time no one was left to speak up.

  • Mike

    There are illegal immigrants who are publically stating that they’re here illegally and ICE claims it doesn’t have the resources to deport them. Then, they apparently have the resources to go an do this?

    Anyone who still approves of the job Obama is doing must have brain damage. The TSA patdowns and overreaching internal powers dwarf any consitutional overreach Bush did.

    Where is the ACLU and the media? This should be front page material! Homeland Security is shutting down websites without a warrent that are violating no laws! This is Obama’s communism dream!

  • Ranger_Ric

    Notice you don’t see a word about this in the MSM? Gee, I wonder why? Could it be that they are scared sh|tless and horrified that the Marxist obama just pissed off about 1/3 of his voting base, the idiot kids who were to stupid to realize what Marxism is and voted for hope and change? Well guess what MSM, the kids knew about this before you did and you won’t be able to cover it up. The Marxist is so toast in 2012!

  • Tripp

    Lawyer up. regardless of whether they were actually infringing upon any copyright, violating 4th Amendment search and seizure forfeits a good part of the fed case…

  • neb

    Wise up. For sure.
    In the real world, you don’t have any rights. This ain’t a TV show.
    Remember Buffalo Springfields song?

    Step out of line, the man come and take you away.

    Sarah Palin for President?
    Jeb Bush?
    Let the nigga do his damn job.

    For sure, it is getting out of control. Money talks, the rest of the people are at the soup kitchen.

    wtf

  • American Thinker

    First of all, America is not the problem; The Fascists that have infiltrated the American government are. With that being said, there is one undeniable fact that most every commentor seems to be ignoring. Downloading music, or any other media content, without purchasing the rights to it is theft of intellectual property. It is absolutely no different than going to the local store and walking out with a stack of CD’s without paying for them. And for those that argue that it is more like a friend making you a copy of the CD they bought, well guess what, that’s illegal as well.
    For all the comments that talk about how DHS has seized these sites and is like Hitler, relize that you are whining about having your ability to steal property made more difficult. Would you be happier if they instead tracked the IP or MAC address of those that were doing the uploading/downloading and prosecuted them (most likely many the posters here) for copyright infringement? Sure as heck would solve the US budget woes in a hurry with a $250K fine per incidenet.

  • Anonymous

    @135 pirate-party.us

    The website you were trying to reach is temporarily unavailable.

    Please check back soon.
    If you are the owner of this website, please log in for additional
    information or contact us as soon as possible.

    Suspended!

  • tom

    DId someone ask Al Gore on this since he invented the Internet

  • MW

    @663

    Wrong.

    We say try and convict them UNDER THE LAW – BEFORE siezing their property (sites).

    If you don’t protect EVERYONE’S property rights, NO ONE’S property is safe.

    This is why we have COURTS, and a LEGAL SYSTEM.

    Maybe when you’re all grown up, you’ll get it. And with any luck, you’ll still have rights to YOUR property then.

  • Bob in Baltimore

    Amazed –

    “Has there been a trial?”

    Uh, no, and there doesn’t have to be – or didn’t you know?

    Try selling counterfeit merchandise at a flea market or fair. The cops will ask you if you have a permit from the copyright holder(s) to sell the merchandise – and if you don’t have one, THEY SHUT YOU DOWN.

    See? No trial, no jurors, no taxpayer expense.

    Now, it’s not really that hard to extrapolate that to the Internet, is it?

  • gride

    So people on here are crying that we are losing freedom. Since when is freedom defined by the free ability to steal or rip people off? This is what these sites do.

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  • Robert Jefferson

    Are they filing charges against the owners of the sites???

    If not, imagine the government closing a store and not filing charges against the owner of the store.

    I think this is a test run of website seizures. They didn’t mess with the big boys. Eventually, it’ll be disagreeable thoughts that warrants a shut down.

  • fh

    let me remind u, this is an extreme left administration doing this. It is not a republican admin.

    Sarah Palin, etc, are about freedom. The left has always been about coercion when it comes to the individual liberties of Americans.

  • JRG

    Just a note, the Senate Judiciary Committee is bi-partisan made up of members of both parties and the COICA vote was virtually unanimous. Hollywood contributes to both parties.

  • Mike Notz

    Guys, its called stealing. Stop trying to justify it and blame the government. We all know what torrents are and what they do. If you made a good or had a business and someone stole your stuff, you would want the government to help stop it wouldn’t you?
    Stop being hypocrites.

  • Follow the bouncing ball

    I don’t condone stealing by anyone, but let’s not make believe the record companies are innocent victims.

    Years ago when people were copying records to tapes the people claimed they bought the records so therefore they owned them and could do what they wanted with them. The record companies claimed that they just licensed the content and the physical media was just a means of distribution. Based on that concept, people should not be required to re pay the licensing as media technology chnaged, but the record companies did nothing to insure that people that already paid for licenses weren’t double paying.

    It was all ok when they got to cheat the people. Now the tables are turned and they want sympathy?

    It’s wrong to steal in either direction, but don’t look here for a sob towel.

  • Amazed

    Mike Notz

    It’s called government abuse. Yes there are proper channels for the government to stop thieves, as there should be. Only a fool wants an executive branch that can just randomly decide whose property to take and why.

  • AmeriMike

    Kinda funny really. Buncha mammas boys that hang out all day at their puters (dressed only in their undies no doubt) whining that Big Sis has stripped away their “right” to diseminate the hard work and imagination of others who actually PRODUCE something to entertain this sorry crowd. Grow up and make something yourself – then let’s see what you think when some creepy thief steals it and puts it up “for free” to everyone. Get a job, get a life and get off yer lazy asses and make something to contribute to the world instead of just stealing it. Pitiful. If this is the state of “freedom” fighters and this is the issue that pushes you over the edge, then you really need some perspective.

  • Robert Jefferson

    If only King George III would have had a Homeland Security…

  • RonZ

    I don’t use file sharing websites. I buy my copyrighted materials. Having said that, looks like when 51% of America voted for Change, that’s what we got. You chose unwisely, America, and now you must suffer the consequences of bad choice: Dictatorship.
    Throw the crooks out- all of them. Replace the despots and crooked politicians with people who respect the rights of free citizens and honor the Constitution.

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  • Anonymous

    Good for the government.
    Copyrights need to be protected from all you free loading criminals.

    Maybe if some of you actually paid for the copyrighted material you used then the unemployment rate wouldn’t be so high.

    It amazes me how people believe it is their right to posess something created by another by stealing it, and then try to demonize the creators for actually trying to make a profit by selling their products.

    I hope they get more aggressive and shut down all the free loader websites who sole existence is for the purpose of being a parasite on the productive members of society.

  • Resinman

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    nameserver 67.142.162.13
    nameserver 199.166.28.10
    nameserver 199.166.29.3
    nameserver 199.166.31.3
    nameserver 204.57.55.100

  • Marine

    I feel sooo much better now DHS/ICE are stoppong folks from downloading the newest Harry Potter movie!!
    Maybe now that we are soooooo much safer, we can stop depolying to faraway lands and killing people there! I mean don’t we have a serious jay walking problem here or something else to concentrate on now that the automatons form DHS/ICE
    are on the job?
    Have they caught any “real” bad guys yet?
    What a waste of money, maybe we should force the likes of the business types behind this to serve a few months in some crapistan somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, this is the change we’re getting. And most don’t like it. First it hits oil companies, travelers, then websites. Government is going to act with or without laws. My guess, this is the first crack. Next will be news sites – especially conservative sites.

    I don’t know about these sites, but this is a warning to everyone from the government. It’s to put fear into all web owners.

    Hope and change…. Hope and change!!! Change doesn’t sound so hopeful anymore.

  • Chris in LA

    I completely understand the sentiment here but please keep in mind the problem is an out of control US government, not ‘America.’ The American people are victimized by their own goverment more than you will ever be so please don’t start taking pot-shots at US tourists or shooting bald eagles out of the sky. The Fed poorly represents the 50 states it was created for and it’s a situation badly in need of repair. Rest assured, one way or another the situation will be resolved or the whole system will colapse under its own weight.

  • Amazed

    SARileyMan

    If you don’t see the Constitutional issues, then it’s you that “doesn’t have a brain in your head.”

    No one is opposed to enforcing the law. We are only opposed to the illegal tactics being used. There are proper legal channels that should be used to stop theft.

  • TW

    Unfortunately, this is the change we’re getting. And most don’t like it. First it hits oil companies, travelers, then websites. Government is going to act with or without laws. My guess, this is the first crack. Next will be news sites – especially conservative sites.

    I don’t know about these sites, but this is a warning to everyone from the government. It’s to put fear into all web owners.

    Hope and change…. Hope and change!!! Change doesn’t sound so hopeful anymore.

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  • MW

    Remember the GM takeover by Obama Inc?
    Shareholders – a *lot* of them ordinary people holding shares as part of retirement investment – got nothing.
    Bondholders, who under US contract law were guaranteed by law to be made whole first, were stiff armed, told they’d take pennies on the dollar – or else.

    These were property too, and this administration blatantly ignored bankruptcy and contract law, to pick and choose what happened to property that had no right to.

    Now, people are here crying about ‘oh, they were stealing peoples’ property, they deserved it!’

    And while doing so, they’re cheering the siezure of someone else’s property without due process, courts, judgements, etc…

    Can they not see the obvious flaw in their reasonong?

    And 20 years from now when we reach the obvious extension of this trend abrogating property rights, will they still cheer when the feds show up at their door and throw them out of the house they’ve worked for, seize their property, because people who don’t own a house are being cheated of the chance to own one, because their house is too big, on too much land?

  • BigPat

    Now it’s time to bring the heat to THEM! $5 says whitehouse.gov will be driven offline this weekend!

  • Pulsed Media

    @641
    Except stealing CDs is physical goods, copying music on internet is information.

    Information by nature is infinitely copyable. Do we jail people doing cover songs? Nope we do not.

    The difference is that internet allows for practically INFINITE perfect copies conveniently, fast and efficiently.

    The whole IP must be protected is a bit outdated. If you can’t protect it: Then it’s practically public domain.

    And i do not mean DRM shit either, taking liberties in exchange to protect minority interests is not the way to go.

    You can protect your intellectual property for example in online games, efficiently 0% piracy or very close to that.

    But for music? There’s no surefire method as if you can hear it, you can copy it.

    DRM only makes things inconvenient and defective by design for “legit” users.

    MAFIAA should trust their content is SO GOOD that people are willing to pay for it, not force them to pay up.

    Only thing MAFIAA is achieving is slowing down progress for ALL OF HUMANITY. Therefore, MAFIAA is the sum of all evil. MAFIAA does NOT serve humanity as a whole, MAFIAA servers only MAFIAA. Not even artists themselves.

    Internet, and technology in general allows leaps & bounds of better information flow and progress of humanity in all together, and MAFIAA has always tried to SLOW DOWN the evolution of human race (evolution of how we think, how we operate, how we live etc. not DNA evolution)

  • MW

    If you don’t stand up and protest when you see someone else’s property taken without due process, you are not only giving up their constitutional rights – you are also giving up YOURS.

  • Catfur

    ..anyone still believe zippy and his crew are not fascist statists bent on controlling everyone??

  • Pulsed Media

    @586
    fight against terrorism was to begin a hoax.

    It’s questionable what actually happened to WTC towers, but not only that, like 0.000000000000001% of world population are fanatical potential terrorists to begin with!

    for that extremely marginal group the goverments are exceptionally thankfull to give them powers to control the population beyond the measures in the past. We live in tyranny, but do not accept it.

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  • ribin21

    DOWN with the corporations and banking rulers ,UP with rights for all humans so that we can advance to a new promised standard /reference to david wilcocks/johns f kenndy /gaundi/obama/roosevelt/jamesmccanney/my dad/your dad / my mom/ your mom/ my preacher /your preacher/ my local policemen/ your local policemen/ my local state police/your local state police/my mayor/your mayor/ my governor /your governor/ up with CO-OPS FOR establishing businesses that hire local people and that arent owned by outsider share holders of corporations . I SAY WE THE PEOPLE NEED A PASSWORD FOR ONLY US THE PEOPLE AND NOT BANKERS OR CORPORATIONS . AMEN

  • Amazed

    I’d be curious to see how many people posting here have actually ever read the Constitution; and how many people live by the rhetoric “the government should DO something about that” whenever they see something they disagree with.

  • KarlU

    I am saddened by the number anti-American comments here. I hope you realize that a good many Americans are very dismayed by the vast acceleration in the usurpation of liberty that has gone on in this country since 2006.

    This kind of abomination would come to a screeching halt if American citizens would demand of our elected public servants, a return to Constitutional government. Too many people American and otherwise, do not understand the founding principles of the American form of government.

  • Nemesis Grey

    I feel like I live in Germany in the late 20′s early 30′s right before the Nazi’s came to power. The alert could feel the tide swaying toward fascism like one feels autmumn turning to winter.. powerless to do anything about it. I know I can vote, but I feel it won’t be enough. There are just way too many Jay Leno’s “Jaywalkers” out there who can’t even pick out the Atlantic Ocean on a map to cancel me out. Most are too blinded by day to day work and misery to raise their heads up above the herd to see where we’re heading. It reminds me of “When you trade freedom for security, in the end, you have neither.” We are seeing that right now. If the Office of Homeland Security and TSA do not bring to mind the SS, then one needs to go back to school. Though about the subject of immigration, SNL said it best. When you hear the words “Papers, Please”, the trampling of rights is not far behind.

    As a webmaster this makes me nervous as there was no notice. What if someone posts links to torrent files in my messageboard.. or someplace like here? And I miss it? Will they come to seize my website? The undisclosed parameters of what constituted a seizable site seemed rather loose. Maybe all it takes it this?

    http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/5923950/Metallica-Kill_Em_All-Remastered-2010-JRP.5923950.TPB.torrent

    Will Drudge be here tomorrow now?

  • poo

    @Anon – I’m pretty sure Obama isn’t a homosexual.

  • coocoo

    f#ck obama and his democrat cronies who will trample freedom when ever it meets their ends! just sick of obama, what were the americans thinking electing that bit#h

  • Pay for it

    everyone here is sad because you can’t steal songs and movies anymore? too bad for you because you may actually have to spend money to see the next hollywood hit!

  • who?me?

    What does Homeland Security have to do with any of this anyway? Wasn’t it supposed to be about making us safe from terorrists? (Like they REALLY exist.)

    Just another example of Bush and the fine folks that actually perpetrated 9/11 using legislation they railroaded to use for other purposes. Under the name of terror they can target ANYTHING they want to under the auspices of The Patriot Act.

    I would rather be free to be a victim of terror than I would to be a victim om the Patriot Act and Homeland Security.

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  • The other wolfe

    It would appear to me that we have forgotten the story of “Robin Hood and his merry men.”

    Curiously, it does appear to be an essential Theme considering the Obama administrations destruction of basic common sense & basic liberties enjoyed by the average American citizen.

    Consider the Sheriff of Nottingham (Obama et al) who stole the lands and rights of English citizen, while the Good King Richard (a Ronald Regan no longer with us. or a conservative congress not here yet) was off in the Middle East.

    It must now be up to Robin Hood and his merry men to subvert the evil thefts manifested by this horrible Sheriff of Nottingham (Obama). Those of us who are now being forced to live in Sherwood Forest must implement ways of retrieving the Gold Laden Wagons (of the Obama Administration) to help secure the return of our freedoms.

    Whose to know what each man of the forest will do tomorrow to save our freedoms from the thieves in Washington. It is time to give our lives for the sake of something more valuable than money or power.

    On the otherhand we could just continue with the status quo and watch our children’s freedom become chains.

  • Sickened

    America has been overrun by the socialist progressives and collectivist parasites. They are ignoring our constitution and treating us all like criminals as they strip away our rights our dignity and even our clothing. Elections are a joke, with government funded agencies like ACORN receiving millions to register countless ineligible voters and with radical activist judges tossing out voter approved measures. Its time for an armed revolt, otherwise say goodbye to your freedoms and your way of life and get ready to work for the nanny state.

  • CB

    You curse these law enforcement organizations, until you or someone you know is ripped off – then it’s, “Where’s the cops?”

  • MW

    @675

    Good drone – just keep repeating what you’re told.
    You know the government that is Mother and Father don’t like it when you stop and think – they like obedient little boys who think what they’re told to think, and do what they’re told to do.

    And as you cheer the unconstitutional seizure of one group’s property because it feels good, remember that the feds would NEVER do it to you, if they had an excuse….

  • Anonymous

    More power control. Reminds me a bit of the way Hitler took control of Germany, of couse back then they did not have the internet.

  • straight troof

    all u government sympathizers need to look at the big picture:
    1: the free flow of information online is one of the greatest things to ever happen to humanity. would you have complained about the printing press because the book writers no longer made as much $$$ off their books? do you like reading? because its the exact same thing all over again. dont believe me eh? go google “disruptive technology”.
    2: this is hardly about real “laws”, this is about corporate laws written by corporate lobbyists, implemented by dumb and easily bought politicians. does anyone REALLY think the laws are written for real people these days? or has our right to representation been sold for campaign donations (lobbyist bribes).
    so please stop telling us were just theives. itunes, steam, netflix, redbox, hulu, etc. would not exist without “pirates” dood. were freedom fighters. without us there would be no cellphones because they disrupted land line corporations, no mp3′s/cd’s/vcr’s/cable/ even freaking player pianos were lobbied against. i mean they made audio tapes to degrade in quality ON PURPOSE just so wed have to buy a new tape each time. they sued the commercial skipping dvr company into the ground because it allowed people to skip commercials of stuff they time shifted. remember the microsoft drm servers going down and people could no longer listen to music they bought? “big content” crippling google tv from the start, the 2006 sony rootkits? google acs law, google media sentry. know all those viruses on kazaa, limewire, morpheus, etc? all those viruses were put up by mafiaa. isnt spreading viruses illegal? only if you dont have lobbyists i guess. we can go on and on and on, go verify my little list here, its all true. BIG CONTENT ARE SCUMBAGS, CRIMINALS, AND EVIL. we ARE the people, FOR the people, BY the people. your “government” however is by MONEY, for MONEY and of MONEY. and it works like this in every facet of our government. EPA? almost worthless. remember the financial meltdown? u still outta work? well the bankers made THE MOST MONEY EVER, again this year. google evaded 60 BILLION in taxes last year and everyone knows and NOTHING happened, because u cant do shit, and they bought anyone who can and they all know it. corporations fighting tooth and nail against the cali law to actually test the thousands of chemicals used to make our food and package it and toys for our freaking children and all they want is to make money and have no oversight and continue giving us all CANCER for profit. privately run for profit prison lobbyists helping write immigration laws, im completely serious, really go google all this shit, its so corrupt its insane. the tsa rapiscan scanners, lobbied for AND sold by chertoff and the chertoff group. and its all the worst part, but the worst part is those scanners are exposing civilians to radiation, AND useless, AND its all for money. the workers arent even allowed to wear dosimeters, they cant even strike doods, its actually illegal for the tsa workers to do anything unionish. sound free? ok, im hardly done but im sure noones still reading this, but if u are, go look this shit up, its insane how corrupt things are. dunno what to do, probably move somewhere nice and keep quiet, or revolt….

  • JRG

    Some of the first copyright laws in the US gave rights to published material for 14 years and a 14 year extension if the author was still alive.

    In 1834 the Supreme Court ruled the author of an unpublished work had a right to control the first publication of that work, the author did not have a right to control reproduction following its first publication.

    Obviously, times have changed. However, I would say that some unknown or little-known bands have benefitted by the “illegal” distribution of their songs. The Grateful Dead in fact encouraged the recording and free distribution of their performances — they became the largest grossing band touring at the time.

    At some point, works of art should be allowed to desiminate into the culture for the mutual benefit of all, not be protected into perpetuity for limited enrichment of its inheritors, as it is now.

  • Carl

    Finally!

    Never has the security of the Homeland been so threatened as when assaulted by fake handbags and bootleg gangster music.

    March on, brave Federal soldier! Stop not for the treasonous court system which would jeopardize your noble efforts!

  • YouAsked for it

    Hey, you voted for Obama. Now you got him.

    How is that hope and change thing going?

    Or is it still Busch’s fault?

  • thePRSF

    That’s funny. Obama and the Feds can shut down file sharing sites but they can’t seem to find a way to shut down a leftist blogger from releasing TOP SECRET military & govt. documents? Go figure huh? It’s so blatantly obvious the lack of effort that it could lead one to assume it’s being done on purpose. Barry? Still trying to blame George Bush for your failed presidency eh? (how’s the fat lip Obama?)

  • Sickened

    The Obama administration is a dismal failure and has been repeatedly exposed as being incompetent and ineffective and out of touch. Now they are diverting counter-terrorist resources to screw around with torrent websites without due process. Yet another foul joke by this horrible administration full of academic egg head morons who have no clue what they are doing.

  • Captain Obvious

    All of you criticizing Obama are RACISTS!

    How dare you question someone who won a Nobel Peace Prize for merely existing!

    Clearly this is Bush’s fault!

    Warmonger!

    (if you voted for this guy, you deserve what you are getting)

  • Anon67497848

    WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!

  • indieone

    Theft of intellectual property is a crime. Perhaps facilitating the theft of same is a crime as well. You can’t steal and get away with it–”free” internet or not. It’s about time! Independent music is not owned by big corporations. To make a living, we need to sell our music. If not, music will cease one day because there’s no incentive. Many musicians are already quitting.

  • Amazed

    CB,

    I certainly would call the cops. For the most part they follow the law and respect people’s rights (of course there are exceptions, but they are rare).

    I DON’T want an “above the law” federal force which thinks they are only accountable to the President. I DON’t want a President that thinks his power over the people is unlimited.
    I DON’T want anyone at all deemed to be guilty without a trial.

    So get real and stop mixing up the real issue.

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  • MW

    That’s what courts a for, to decide whether and what crime was committed, and declare a penalty.

    It’s not DHS’s job to be judge and jury.

  • Anonymous

    U.S. Gov Seizes BitTorrent search site (torrent-finder) – Technical details:

    “It got in the news today that the U.S. Government had seized the BitTorrent search site Torrent-finder.com. When I saw the seized page I thought it was fake and decided to do a bit of analysis to see what is going on. I will post the technical details here…”

    http://fseek.me/2010/11/u-s-gov-seizes-bittorrent-search-site-torrent-finder-technical-details/

  • Sickened

    @indieone – Fine, but US citizens are guaranteed a right to due process. You don’t get to take something away from someone else without due process. DHS is not above the constitution that limits its powers.

  • European

    America: Your fascist regime for the 21st century!

  • anon

    @678
    lolz, the cops? the one time i needed the cops was when my bike was stolen, and they were USELESS, actually worse than useless because in some way my taxes paid for them, so the cops were a loss for me. they do manage to ticket great though. ur shits stolen? tough, but heres a ticket for where you parked, have a nice day… not to mention all the minorities they shoot every year *cough* BART cops *cough* hurricane katrina *cough* so yeah, the cops are worse than useless. useless is a turd on the side of the road. cops are a turd on the side of the road that u either pay or it shoots you, sometimes both

  • Nobelprize

    But the Europeans LOVED Obama…

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  • Jimmy

    WTF? is right. What are you all whining about? Because you can no longer STEAL other people’s property? The idea that just because it’s out there means you can take it is entitlement mentality run amok. DHS has no right to seize URLs, IPs or Domains w/o due process – but you don’t have any right to help yourself to copyrighted material either. Do you really believe artists are producing content solely for your benefit? Losers. BUY it or STFU.

  • indieone

    Sickened..
    I agree with you on that point. Though, I’m not unhappy about the filesharers and conterfeiters getting shut down.
    I wonder what will be next? It’s getting scary.

  • Confused

    So “sharing” is Ok because it does not deny the use by the original purchasing party? However it does dilute the market value of the of the product potentially in an infinite manner.

    Most corporations are made up of individual stockholders who invest in hopes of seeing a return to provide for their particular needs, yet many posters seek to disenfracnhise them from their efforts for personal gain.

    Market forces are created by desire for a particular good or service. That desire is often created by quality or marketing investment in that good or service.

    I don’t see the clamour of demand for music that is offered for free by artists or run of the mill handbags, what I see is the demand to have access for free the desirable works of others as some sort of right. The non-producers mantra, even if it kills the goose that layed the coveted egg.

  • judyjudyjudy

    OBAMA=HITLER

  • Great NEWS- Good JOB!

    Finally, I am so glad our criminal resources will monitor these sites.
    I had identity theft from one of these sites and BD, had all sorts of personal information on line about me. It took over 10 days to get it off
    and they would not even pick up there phones.
    WAKE UP PEOPLE AND REALIZE THIS WILL HELP US!!!

  • anon

    @ indieone
    of course the internet will kill music. DUH. everyone knows that before recorded media there was no music.
    if only there were some other way to make money off music besides just sitting around for a few weeks and living off it forever.
    if only someone could “tour” the country and somehow “perform” their songs “live”, you know, like a tangible product people could pay to experience.
    kinda like how other people “go to work” but the musical equivalent.

    i tried the whole “musician” thing at my job once. im always sending emails, and its like i have to be there and write a new one each time. so i was like eff it, and i just copied an old one over and over and kept using that. and they FIRED me. its crazy, i tried and tell them im so valuable i should really get to reuse my once off efforts but they just laughed at me. freaking corporate pirates wanting me to work EVERY day and produce…

  • Anonymous

    In the Tenth year of our New Millenium a decree did go out amongst the people that “All your base are belong to us”…

  • Amazed

    indieone

    First, the discussion is about the PROPER way to handle theft, no one is approving of theft.

    But in response to your post, name one real musician that has quit over file sharing. If they quit, it’s because no one would buy their music anyway.

    A survey of musicians done about 10 years ago indicated that most musicians make MORE money because of file sharing. As their names get known, they get more concert offers, etc. It’s only the record companies that loose their commisions.

  • MW

    Jimmy…

    Take your meds, and calm down.

    We’re saying that the site owners should have been charged, fined, and convicted first, instead of being judged and seized by DHS.

    That’s what the legal system is for – so NO ONE can just decide someone is guilty and take their property without due process of law.

    Even your property.

  • 18991M

    who the HELL does obama think he is?
    I am so sick of this commie running things with an IRON FIST…democrats sux

  • How Real

    anon 701 – That was one of the best posts I’ve ever read!

  • cbc5g

    ROFL at the “independent artists” who think that pirating is what is destroying their way of life.

    No

    Your music sucks, that’s why you aren’t earning anything.

    You morons are a threat to internet freedom.

  • saMMY

    Hussien can go to hell and take his nanny state agents with him.

  • Sam

    This is America, not Red China.

  • Jimmy

    @704 – read the post again. In case you can’t read, I mentioned due process. However, it’s incidental. Does anyone REALLY believe due process is necessary to determine that copyright infringement is taking place here? Really? Of course, there should be due process in order to convict these scumbags – but I see no problem with shutting them down. Are any of these sites licensed distributors? Doubt it. Shut ‘em down. Maybe someday when you produce something and have it copied, infringed and stolen, you’ll get it?

  • ribin21

    IF MONEY IS GENERATED BY.COMPUTER DIGITS and the food is generated by computer controlled robots,and the houses can be constructed by computers in factories and war is constructed by computers and food is distributed by computers and walmart has selfserve lanes by computers and telephone operators are computer records and on and on and on then just give everyone 10,000 a year to breathe so they can make there own food because there is no need for jobs , there sure is no need for congress or state police or local cops or friends whos only purpose is to demand money from you,//// if money is just a digit ,then give me some digits so i can go to college or study what ever i want , and if 2-3 % of population has mental problems or drugs and alcohol problems just put them in there own state heck with have 50 states there ot to be enough states for all our problems but just get rid of those corrupt bankers and congress and on and on and on ,we have advanced technology so lets use it forget about patents only the rich corportions control the most important ones -= amen

  • booboo

    In Soviet Russia you don’t surf the internet…the internet surfs you. Obey your master…

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the vast majority of you. I’m an American who is sick of our government. They think they know better than all the rest of us and believe it’s better for them to make our choices from us. They are molesting women and chidlren at airports, they now ban McDonalds from putting toys in Happy Meals because our children shouldn’t eat fast food. This coming from a bunch of fat bastards. I believe our govenrment does want to be like Nazi Germany.

    Believe me when I say it’s not the American People. It’s our disgusting left wing government who is trying to take controls of our lives. We are fighting back, just not hard enough, YET.

  • lljcool

    barry the nazi should be in prison!

  • indieone

    @Amazed

    I have 12 albums to my credit. Before the street date(release date, it’s listed on bit torrent for download free. I have to send out promo copies ahead of time for publicity and before I can sell a copy, it’s gone. Get my point?

  • urdrwho

    How’s that change and hope “work’in for ya now?”

    Before the election there were warnings about the tight fist that would come from an administration such as this one.

    But would the kids listen? Nope. They wanted change. Well ya got change and how do you like it?

    You also have scanners and body searches at airports. You getting an idea yet who you voted into office?

    Maybe it is time to start thinking Libertarian Party?!?!?!

  • To Nemesis Grey

    Read
    ‘They Thought They Were Free”
    Milton Mayer
    It is available online as PDF from a free book website, for now.
    Because you are on to something.

  • Anonymous

    You thieves got busted.

    wah.

  • Ben Franklin

    Friends,

    NAZI = National Socialist German Workers’ Party

    Confused?

  • Just saying

    So our Government can shut THESE sites down, but they can’t shut down Al-Qaeda’s websites?…just saying.

  • anon

    @696
    dude the laws are wrong bro, slavery used to be legal, asbestos, ur familiar with the unchecked global warming and pollution right? whaling was legal. remember that king that just cut off his wives heads? legal. stoning to death? legal in some places, same with female circumcision. widow burning? legal till pretty recently. still cannibalism out there, dont forget that, not sure those people have “laws”, but its accepted. so dont play the “law” card like its the end all be all of morality.

    lets get real and look at the who and why of these laws. corporate lobbyists? money? yeah, not a good basis for laws in my opinion. sure it dilutes the value, but im one of those crazy guys that thinks information is a good thing. i know, crazy, right? i mean we should base everything on money or the world will die, im well aware, communists have glowing red eyes and we “saved” cuba….
    but seriously guys, seriously. how can u reall y side with greed over knowledge?
    music is artificially valued anyway. a 17$ cd from the 90′s costs what? 10$ on itunes? and its worse quality, you have no right to copy or resell it, and you handle all the distribution from bandwidth to the cd, and you get no case or artwork. does that sound reasonable to you? ima sell you the plans to a car for half the cost of the car itself and you provide the parts…
    pl,us, remember buying cd’s in the 90s? you had no idea if it was any good, there was maybe 3 songs you liked, it was packed full of skits, and you couldnt return it. frankly mafiaa hasnt gotten nearly the backlash it deserves yet. the complete destruction of this dinosaur blight of obsolecense is too good for them. toss em in jail for crimes against humanity for trying to stifle the advancement of the human race for profit IMO

  • cabinetguy888

    Hey boys and girls! Hows that HOPE and CHANGE working out for ya? When they criminalize people for being “rich” then its ok. But when they come after the WEB,,,,,,it looks like they got your attention. Death to dictators! Don’t Tread on Me!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Or maybe I should have spelled it differently then to more accurately apply to this situation?

    “All your BASS are belong to U.S.”

    :p

  • MW

    Jimmy…

    You’re making a ‘two wrongs make a right’ argument.

    And getting WAY too wound up.

  • Smith

    To all you so called artists who say Copying is “stealing” (Not gonna explain the difference, alot of people already did that)

    As an average File-Sharer, I’m happy to pay for my entertainment when it matches these personal criteria:

    - The creation must be worth it’s price. I’m not gonna spend money on a piece of crap, neither on something insanely overpriced. Money doesn’t grow on trees, but I guess you already know that.

    - I don’t want any of my money to go to the MAFIAA and Friends. Knowing that my money will be used to censor the Internet or ruin the lives of people like me just makes me sick. I have been boycotting MAFIAA content for almost a year now. I prefere pirating over supporting the MAFIAA in any way…

    - NO DRACONIC DRM. There is “good” DRM and “bad” DRM. If the DRM doesn’t restrict or annoy me I won’t mind buying it.

    An example of someone doing it right is the creator of Minecraft (www.minecraft.net). Game is simple, but fun to play. The Creator is Indie (No connection to MAFIAA) and there isn’t any form of draconic DRM. Yes the game can be pirated, but the creator is still earning lots of money. I bought it as well. You Artists/Developers can learn from him!

    BTW, Seizing Domains of Websites without following the Standard Procedures is just plain WRONG in my eyes. EVERYONE has the right to defend themselves in a Court of Law. If Serial Murderers/rapists, Phedophiles, Terrorists, etc. are given the right to defend themselves, but Website owners aren’t, then there is REALLY something wrong with the American Justice System…

  • Some Body

    Jimmy@710

    Accusation does not equal *conviction*. It’s why we are *supposed* to have “due process.”

  • JD

    America, the land of injustice. Run by a corrupt Government, who is paid off by big money. Literally.

  • Amazed

    Jimmy 710,

    That’s exactly the same logic that was used in the 19th century south. Due process was “nice but incidental”. After all, everyone know that the blacks committed what ever crime happened to have been comitted – so why not just hang them?

    That logic is a danger to all free people!

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  • RudyJCat

    The solution is simple..vote the bastards out of office!

    This is the Change you get.

  • Amazed

    indieone

    Read post 701. Making money takes a lot of hard work, sometimes done repeatedly. Most successful musicians know that. Most failed ones think they should spend a few days doing something and get paid for life.

  • Bob in Baltimore

    Jimmy –

    Spot on.

    I wonder what some of these folks would say if the site(s) hosted pedophilia instead of pirated music and counterfeit goods.

    Using the same logic, we’ve got to charge, fine, and convict before the site could be taken over.

    I’m sure the govmint didn’t throw darts to obtain the 75 sites, and they’ll all get hammered and fined for infringement.

  • Anonymous

    If only these assholes had respect for physical property rights then I’d feel safe about them protecting so called “intellectual property rights”.

  • indieone

    @anon 701

    maybe I’m not understanding your post but are you saying music producers don’t work or music production isn’t a job?

  • MW

    As an aside, what do you get when you download media like this?
    Mislabelled tracks, low bitrate, skips, other flaws…..

    If anal retentives like Metallica weren’t obsessed with getting every single penny for every time one of their songs is played somewhere, they would realize that file sharing is one of the MMOST useful ways to market their product.

    Would you be more likely to buy an album because you’ve heard it and know it’s worth it, or because you’ve heard one song and want to roll the dice on the rest?

    Someone downloads an album, find out it sucks wind, and delete it. Another album they like – so they’ll shell out the $15 – $20 bucks to get a clean copy. (And I personally make a copy once I buy it, to save the original in undamaged form on a closet shelf)

    So this intellectual rights issue is far more about money grubbing than about actual rights. And it’s completely beside the point.

    You CANNOT protect the property rights of one group, by ignoring the property rights of another. Ultimately, someone will always eventually reach the point where they have an excuse to take anyone’s property without due process. So, if you want the law to protect what YOU have, you’d damned well protect the same rights for everyone else.

    Nowhere in the 4th amendment does it define some groups as having inalienable property rights, and not others. So, there’s no specific protection for whatever group *you* fall into.

    Only one group has protected property rights under the constitution.

    That group is “Everyone”

  • Mark

    For those here that are bashing Americans for this latest outrage from the Obama administration. Remember just that, this is one more thing that obama wants control over. The man is a narcissistic control freak of the highest order and he does NOT in anyway represent the vast majority of freedom loving Americans.

    For those idiots who read this post who voted for Oblunder, how’s that hopey changey working for you now?

    2012 can’t come soon enough so we can right this wrong.

  • Purple Phlogiston

    What on earth does this have to do with the mission of ICE or Homeland Security? FBI I could understand, but DHS? Big Sis run amok!

  • David B

    Power Play, plain and simple. The timing of the move is suspect, the president’s aides and political allies spent the last 6 months complaining about the blogosphere.

    Now, with a month of unchecked power remaining, they show the internet they have to be dealt with.

    Look for political allies of Obama to get passes, and any internet host who hosts opposing viewpoints to get hammered.

    Obama has already met privately with:

    Leaders in the financial industries (prior to the wall street reform bill)

    Banks (prior to the bailout that consumed most US banks)
    Auto manufacturers (prior to the US government takeover of General Motors and Chrysler, and subsequent mass layoffs of non-union employees)

    Health insurance companies (prior to the health care overhaul)

    Oil companies (during the BP fiasco, BP the single largest corporate contributor to Obama’s 2008 campaign)

    He brought them all on board to support his agenda. Internet companies, it’s your turn.

  • Michael Long

    Outstanding work!

    What idiot thinks a spam site that steals credit card numbers, personal information, and is fed by SPAM is a legitement business plan? These are fishing sites that are simply designed to steal from the public. If I went out into the street and stole a credit card out of your car I would go to jail. If I put up a web site to steal it Republicans get outraged? How stupid are people

  • Get Real

    Bob in Baltimore and Jimmy

    Your point “sounds good” yeah man, like wow that sounds good… but it’s dead wrong.

    Pedophilia sites are shut down by court order. They are also often left up and running so the police can use them for a sting operation and find the real bad guys. I don’t believe I’ve ever read of ANY web site being shut down by order of the exectutive branch before this. It’s a dangerous precident. If the sites were such an iminent threat, they could have woken a judge up and got an order.

  • BuzzKill

    @ Flying Dutchman (7) — You don’t say? Hell, look what is happening to CA! Just a microcosm of the shitstorm the whole country is looking to take a big bite out of.

    And anyone who doesn’t think this is the Hussein’s doing is deluding themselves

  • anon

    @439

    omg so nice to hear a futurist musician for once. cheers bro. im in the same boat, i dont do music, but i consult people, and as mcuh as i can i put free online. would i like to get paid for each letter i typoe? of course, but lets get real. first off i aint the only show in town, if i dont do it someone else will and outcompete me. im over it. second, its a traffic driver, and traffic i can leverage into money, so its a bit convoluted but yes i make money off giving my service away free. third, frankly the free internets been good to me, its nice to contribute back to the internet community, i love my blogs, my tube sites, my forums and CC and the lack of oppressive censorship regimes online, so i contribute back to it, fourth, i DO work for free all the time, i get things like networking and traffic and bartering and just feeling good helping someone do something i can do easy that would cost em an unnafordable amount, its called a society people, dont let faux news convince u its dead. lastly, i still get paid ALL THE TIME. its called freemium people. theres a free version (my previous expertise ive published in blogs, tweets, how-tos, etc) kinda like a cd, its past work, and then theres my real time specialized custom advice where i do something special. sure u can read my blog, and thats an infinite resource, its free, but my real specialized time? thats finite, it costs money, and we all get that.

    So THANK GOD there are those of us who can adapt and be reasonable and be realistic and still have a great life. CHEERS NETIZENS I LOVE YOU :)))

  • Joe

    I didn’t read ALL the responses, but is this for real?

    The source of the HTML shows an IP

    var pkBaseURL = ((“https:” == document.location.protocol) ? “https://74.81.170.107/piwik/” : “http://74.81.170.107/piwik/”);
    document.write(unescape(“%3Cscript src=’” + pkBaseURL + “piwik.js’ type=’text/javascript’%3E%3C/script%3E”));

    try {
    var piwikTracker = Piwik.getTracker(pkBaseURL + “piwik.php”, 1);
    piwikTracker.trackPageView();
    piwikTracker.enableLinkTracking();
    } catch( err ) {}

    That IP is at a North Carolina datacenter – CaroNet Managed Hosting, Inc

    This is the federal govt??

    # whois 74.81.170.107
    #
    # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be:
    # “n 74.81.170.107″
    #
    # Use “?” to get help.
    #

    #
    # The following results may also be obtained via:
    # http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=74.81.170.107?showDetails=true&showARIN=false
    #

    CaroNet Managed Hosting, Inc. CI-74-81-170-0-23 (NET-74-81-170-0-1) 74.81.170.0 – 74.81.171.255
    Carolina Internet, Ltd. CARO-NET-ARIN-4 (NET-74-81-160-0-1) 74.81.160.0 – 74.81.191.255

    #
    # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
    # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html
    #

  • Anonymous

    If torrent sites are banned in the USA. Guess what….every other country is gonna steamroll the USA economy into the dirt even more so than they currently are now. It is a matter of national security and our best interest to have a free flow of infomation just as accessible and unrestricted as any other country otherwise whe are gonna get killed.

  • anon

    If torrent sites are banned in the USA. Guess what….every other country is gonna steamroll the USA economy into the dirt even more so than they currently are now. It is a matter of national security and our best interest to have a free flow of infomation just as accessible and unrestricted as any other country otherwise whe are gonna get killed.

  • Amazed

    Michael Long

    What kind of simpleton would make this a party issue? It is a government abuse issue. It is wrong regardless of the letter behind the politicians name.

    Your example is also poor because the govt has been claiming to try and control spam sites fro 15 years, yet they can’t seem to do it. Why are they focusing on a crime that so few get hurt by while ignoring a similar crime that hurts millions? More importantly, why is DHS doing it?

  • reason

    at last, im glad to finally read some comments like from MW and from anon (nice sarcasm lol) that are reasonable. and a few others too.

    and people still going on and on about how its all Obamas fault or boo hoo they took your downloads away good. thats not what anyones talking about.

    what people are saying, repetitively to the point of insanity (because some of you guys arent getting it) is that there is DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW for doing things like this. i.e. seizing websites. and it doesnt matter if theyre doing something wrong, theres a process for that. drug dealers, murderers, real thieves are given due process regardless of the allegations made against them. they are charged with a crime, taken to court (where proof and evidence are required to convict them) and then they are sentenced. NOT we say you did something so youre guilty. like in this example (you link to sites that have downloadable content so were taking over your site).

    and you know what i just noticed, in the “links to this post” above where you enter comments, one of those is in spanish. “El Gobierno de USA “secuestrando” dominios de Internet” do you guys know what that says basically? it says and this is a translation from my spanish speaking (and my understanding of what secuestrando means) “The government of the USA kidnaps internet domain”. yes, “kidnaps”. how legal sounding is that?

  • indieone

    @Amazed,

    There are lazy people in every profession. I work 10-12 hours a day – 6 days a week making and producing music and I tour when I can. When I’m not producing others I am making my own. So I know what hard work is. I’m not whining, I just think the point is valid that hard work should not be stolen by those who think they are entitled to it. There is a value to a product. It’s expensive to produce a record. I manage to recoup my investments because I have a large enough fan base. I give a lot of music away for free too, but, I would like to be the one to decide what I give away for free.

  • anon

    @indieone

    im saying that living off your one hit wonder is hardly a job. infinite resources are not valuable. thats a fact. sucks it happened to your job, but theres a flip side. free advertising anyone? the fact of the matter is that information flow is more important to humanity than continuing to impose artificial scarcity on music. go tour bro, or un digitize your music, or, duh, embrace the freemium model, or go bang a few groupies and be glad ur not some old dessicated corporate shill. but PLEASE, stop bitching about the ADVANCEMENT OF HUMANITY because its ….. wait for it…… made u work for a living. boo freaking hooo

  • chukalukabus

    Bitch all you want folks, but the internet was designed, implemented, and paid for by the USA.

    The problem is that the US government is now currently controlled by power hungry control freak communists.

    To think we spent 40 years and a vast fortune fighting this tyranny only to fall from within.

    The land of freedom is no more. The beacon has dimmed and the hearts and souls of mankind has sunken into the abyss.

    Condemn Obama for what he is, a tyrant with ill abode for the common man. A man surrounded by fools and malcontents. Degenerates who lie, cheat, and steal what they can while the opportunity exists.

    The question is this: “Can the world suffer 2 more years of this imbecile?”

  • Dick Cheney

    So obuma can shut down harmless websites that may be selling fake stuff(even though you know it’s fake),yet they won’t bother shutting down that Wikileaks website that leaks out classified military documents which is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people,some of which are Americans! obuma needs to be impeached and imprisoned for treason against the USA……..nuff said……

  • Jack Black Greene

    All of you whining little fanboys who are stealing copyrighted stuff while living in your parent’s basement need to get over yourselves. None of these sites were legit. Pay for what you have or the government WILL track you down and drag you out of your homes in the middle of the night in your Superman underwear and beat you within an inch of your worthless geek lives. Go get a girlfriend and lose your virginity and you won’t care about torrents anymore, virgin boys.

  • Haha Libtards

    Haha I love it! Considering that 75% of the “tekkie” community votes Obama, and most wikipedian geeks are left wing libtards, the idea that Obama is seizing sites that are owned by Obama voters, who are visited by Obama voters is HILLARIOUS!!

  • Artist

    Happy to see the government finally doing something.

  • Sean

    The theft of artistic property is still theft. Glad they’re finally cracking down, but I wish another governmental body was doing it.

  • MW

    @752

    Doing something unconstitutional – don’t forget that point.

    Also don’t forget that it means it can be done to you, too….

  • E

    This seems to have been accomplished through Dep3tment of Homeland Security. What a complete distortion and perversion of a law that was meant to rpotect us. Someone created a monster here.

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • the decline

    I think quite a few people here should listen to “The Decline” by NOFX. An album worth buying without a doubt. It’s basically a 20 minute song of what punk rock should sound like. And more to the point, the lyrics while being about 11 years old are relevant more now than ever.

    here’s a link to the lyrics for those interested in checking ‘em out:
    http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/nofx/thedecline.html

    And yes, I downloaded a copy of the album. AFTER I purchased the cd, and even the lp. The cd cost me 13 bucks new, and the lp was like 10 also new. And it was money well spent. And that one nearly 20 minute song puts to shame essentially most of the music of the past decade.

  • Gina

    The government is not supposed to be able to bring a suit (much less corrective action without a court case) against any private company or citizen. Our legal system relies on citizens and companies to bring suits against one another, and this is a great system, which allows people to choose our battles. It is dangerous to allow the government to do these things.

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • dee

    How you liking your hope in change? Remember, put your faith in the government, pay more taxes, they know whats best for you. They still have two more years, imagine what they will think of seizing next?

    Probably the result of RIAA putting the idea in his teleprompter.

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • Someone

    Bring on Pirate Bay DNS

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  • John Smart

    What is wrong with you people? You are a bunch of entitled brats. Those sites STEAL. Steal labor and income. Not only should those sites be shut down, those who run them should be throw in jail…or the ocean…which ever is closer.

    People work hard to make music, movies, etc…the idea that it’s ‘nazi behavior’ to clamp down on theft is, in fact, nazi behavior. How about this, you make a movie, spend millions, then give it away for free…in fact, make thousands of them, employ millions, spend billions…then give it away.

  • lacy

    Pirate bay is not down

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • anonymoose

    A show of power. Liberals love power more than anything else. This an extreme example of why they should never be placed in positions of power.

    Some other agency like the FBI doing this, maybe, but the DHS? Just how far reaching are their powers?

  • Jay C

    “Let’s boycott them!!!STOP WATCHING MOVIES UNDER THOSE STUDIO NAMES.THEY ARE AFRAID OF LOSING MONEY WELL THE PUBLIC SPEAKS NOW!!!”

    Idiot
    You already are boycotting them thats why they are shutting down these sites.

  • fukn_americans

    socialism!

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • MW

    @763

    But it’s okay for the government to essentially STEAL the site owners’ labor and property (since stealing is taking without force of law)?

    Innocent until proven guilty?
    Right to fair trial by a jury?
    Warrants?

    Where are these in this process? Without these, government confiscation is theft.

  • KarlU

    Hey Obama! Hey Janet! Where in the Constitution did We the People give you the authority to do this?

    (crickets)

  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • Cracker Polly

    You don’r realize the country u.s.a. is only temporary freedoms, soon it will be the gulag’s only for your futures…. wakeup and smell the coffee..literally…

  • Not Jermama

    You see where Hope & Change ends now? The logical end of all liberal statist dreams is to control all aspects of your life. Don’t want more of this in the future? Vote Obama and his fascist elite sort out of Washington. The only way to limit power is to limit power. Don’t leave this mess for YOUR kids, like this situation was left for you.

  • not john smart

    @ John Smart

    If I had the money to do just what you said, I would. Just to get all the self righteous on their cross filmmakers and musicians to shut up. I’d gladly give away something I spent a fortune on to show there’s nothing wrong with that.

    At least then I’d be doing something for the love of doing it, not to earn a buck. Or to act like a martyr when people acquire it by whatever mans.

    Look at the recent news revolving around The Hurt Locker lawsuits. The lawyers suing on behalf of the filmmakers filed a general suit against thousands of people (who may or may not have even downloaded the movie). And when a lawyer stepped up and provided documents that these people could use to get the cases thrown out, those filmmaker’s lawyers sued him. FOR HELPING PEOPLE. Because if they want to sue those people the judge basically ruled that they have to sue each of those people in their respective judicial areas. THEY NOW HAVE TO DO A LITTLE WORK TO SUE. So they got pissed and sued this one guy who helped a lot of people.

    Some people act seriously like martyrs. Oh my film my film, people saw it but didn’t pay. You still earn a fortune off your films and albums and you are wrong to assume everyone who has seen it free would’ve paid to have seen it at all.

    I have an idea, why don’t you get off your cross, use the wood to build a bridge and get the f*ck over it. Be glad you made some money. Be glad some people saw your art. Be glad you get paid to do what you want.

  • “The man”

    Its not Obama, its the old white men and their bank accounts. Politicians have no choice but to do what they say, and what they say is that their incomes cannot be threatened. Who cares that they never did a lick of actual work in their entire lives, its their God-given right.

  • Lindsey Lohan

    Bush! Palin! Beck! Cheney! FoxNews!

    Meanwhile, Obama and the Liberals race to take away everyone’s freedoms in the name of ‘fairness’.

  • Nemesis Grey

    #641

    Me going to someone who has downloaded perfect quality mp3′s and downloaded them to a disk.. and I buy them for $1.00/per is more like stealing from the CD Store. The person selling them is a pirate/profiteer. I am buying essentially stolen property.

    Unfortunately, downloading mp3′s is also like having your friend make a copy of theirs. In the sense, if a friend buys a Broyhill chair, I borrow it, study it, and build a copy of it. Did I do something illegal. No. I just made a copy of it for my own personal sitting enjoyment. Was the design, however, intellectual property? Probably. Now though, instead of keeping it, I go to sell it, as a Broyhill chair for less, etc.. or even maybe my own brand. Now I’m pirating. The RIAA actions are like Broyhill coming to my house and suing me because I am sitting in a piece of furniture I made but copied from one of their designs my neighbor bought. The websites being seized are like a local directory of people willing to let me copy their chairs. They are not illegal, the selling of stolen property is illegal. As a society, we’ve taken the definition of piracy to it’s most anti-people pro-business extreme.. thanks to money, lobbyists, and greedy do-gooder congressment who don’t really grasp the technology or care. To me, it’s all pretty insane.. yet insanity pervades. These people need to go after the Chinese who are actually making counterfeit albums and movies and selling them as real ones.

    If we are suing and shutting down the websites of people who share copyright material, and that is the true litmus test of piracy, then all the public libraries in the country with a movie and/or music collection are among some of the biggest pirates of all! If I make a copy of the public library cd, who am I stealing from? Not the library, I gave their cd back. I didn’t really steal from the artist, because I had no intent to ever buy that cd anyway. He can’t claim I stole potential earnings because if I didn’t get it for free, I would easily live without it. Now if I make copies and sell them for less than retail to people who were possibly going to buy the original, now I’ve caused the artists/publishers damages.

    For personal use, I guess the essence of what I’ve stolen is “enjoyment”? I listen to the cd and enjoy one song every 33.5 weeks? And didn’t pay for it? How can you put a value on that. I could just reborrow it from the library every 33.5 weeks. Man, they must be costing artists and publishers millions.

    Do we have to monetize everything? I can’t wait until there are companies or government agencies created to clean pollution from the air. Let’s say the average human breathes in X (say.. 200k gallons) amount of air in one year. Will I be charged an anual consumption tax (say 200k X $.00137/gallon or $274 yearly) for the enjoyment derived from the air I breathe? Should I start paying people for the intellectual property contained in advice? I mean, where are we going with all this? I’m ready to give up and pay for nothing. I know I’m paying already for the commercial free background music at the supermarket, the cost of the license is built into the prices of food. I didn’t even want it, it sucks, and I could care less about it. All things considered, I feel attacked from all sides daily. This news is like reading of a faraway war that one knows will eventually be upon their doorstep. It seems we are all sliding down various slippery slopes to a massive state of prisonlike misery.

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  • Slappy

    Remember when everybody was afraid that republican administrations were trying to take away our rights? Not to defend the neocons, but this current regime is taking over everywhere! Control the auto, bank, and healthcare industry – controlling the internet is next (they already control the media)!!!

  • VerySadIndeed

    Im really pissed! Where the hell am I supposed to get music and videos if all the sites that give access to torrent search engines are taken off line? Walmart? Think again. I’m not going to pay for a schitty movie that I can download for free. Come on. The internet is supposed to be free, and that’s the way I want to keep it. Who can I vote for that will give me free entertainment, that’s what I want to know!

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  • NIKEMISSLES

    its time to take up arms you nerds. order some ordinance and SHOW your representative how you feel.

    “if voting changed anything, theyd make it illegal” -emma goldman

  • Kenny

    Hope and change, dope and mange. This is what communists do.

  • Jeff

    While it ain’t right that the government is locking down domains, I highly doubt many people are missing sites such as discountscarvesonsale.com. The list of seized domains reads like some of the email I receive from Nigerian royalty.

  • V for V

    Not just in US
    “UK Law Enforcement Agency”
    Police could soon have the power to seize any domain associated with criminal activity, under new proposals published today by UK domain registrar Nominet.
    http://www.infowars.com/police-to-get-major-new-powers-to-seize-domains/

  • good luck

    Break the law…pay the price…good luck with that.

  • MpEgDiStRo

    Yeah it seems that our so called government wants to control our life and our freedom with everything

  • Sol

    Hm… so ICE was involved!
    Is their an underground for smuggling undocumented Mexican domains in to the US illegally!?

    Are their domains squatting on US servers, while getting unemployment benefits (or ad filled holding pages to you and me)… While keeping redneck American domains out of the interent shouting “De took ur jobbss!”…

  • Anonymous

    Smith wrote “To all you so called artists who say Copying is “stealing” (Not gonna explain the difference, alot of people already did that)

    As an average File-Sharer, I’m happy to pay for my entertainment when it matches these personal criteria:

    - The creation must be worth it’s price. I’m not gonna spend money on a piece of crap, neither on something insanely overpriced. Money doesn’t grow on trees, but I guess you already know that.”

    You have a choice – Don’t buy it.
    The artist, or company, sets the price for their product – not you. If you don’t want to pay for it then don’t. Live your life without their product. If they aren’t selling then maybe they, and not you, will decide to lower the price.

    It is not your right to “copy” and listen first. By definition that is stealing. Even if you sometimes decide to “buy” a copy after stealing it you are still stealing.

  • Amazed

    @indieone

    Yes, you should be the one that decides if you property is being given away or stolen. We both agree.

    So why do you condone a dictator deciding for all of us what should and should not be done?

    If you believe someone is stealing your property, your state should help you investigate and you should bring criminal action. That’s how it works. In a free country we don’t have an “all knowing” President that just decides whats right and wrong.

  • TheWarriorsWay

    I heard that there was a pre-release Torrent of The Warriors Way online. I would love to download a copy and watch it tonight. Who wants to wait in line at the theater with all those smelly people? Anyone know where I can download it.

  • Ursus Indomitus

    POLICE STATE! This administration is NOT your friend. They’re just shills for the Corporate/Communitarian State.
    RESIST!

  • anon

    Please be advised we will not tolerate off topic posts, spam, trolls or personal attacks. Please help us to help you by NOT responding to such posts. ALL posts which fall into this category will be removed, including those responding to such posts.
    Yeah right.

  • Slam1263

    Aren’t you glad you voted Democrat?

    Granted, the Republicans aren’t much better on some issues, but their members’, and the press, beat them for privacy issues.

    Just think of the outrage if this had happened 3 years ago.

    Get active, let your voices be heard.

  • anon

    Please be advised we will not tolerate off topic posts, spam, trolls or personal attacks. Please help us to help you by NOT responding to such posts. ALL posts which fall into this category will be removed, including those responding to such posts.

    But we will tolerate pirating.

  • american reader

    you think this is bad…go to china and see how free their internet is.

  • Yeah Right

    I don’t support pirating but I can’t help but laugh at all these liberal jerk “artists” that think they are entitled to make as much money as they can, but no one in business is allowed to make money. They are socialists with other peoples money, but capitalists with their own!

  • DGF999

    Shouldn’t be a real problem if you know the IP address of the site… You may be able to find them in your router / server logs.

  • Anonymous

    its a whitchhunt. pure and simple. grabbing left and right, what’s next going out with torches?

  • Weasel

    Why ICE? I guess there wasn’t enough illegal aliens to occupy their time.

  • Anonymous

    this isn’t a political problem both democrat and republican are to blame, its a control problem.

    They don’t have it and they want it.

  • Amazed

    797

    You are right. The real debate shouldn’t be democrat vs republican. The real debate should be power of the people vs power of the government bureaucrats

  • Texas

    This is a distraction. The White House, through the TSA, is grabbing butts while the other hand is stealing our freedom.

  • The Doktor

    YEAH! That darned Bush, Cheney and Rove are ruining our freedoms ….. wait. They’re not responsible. It’s the Socialists who are taking over.

    Nevermind.

  • Elise

    If it takes ICE seizures of sites peddling illegally copied intellectual property such as music and ebooks, I say good for them. Treat intangible property the same way as counterfeit goods and put the pirates out of business. Stealing is stealing, whether it is my wallet or the book I’ve written and published for sale in electronic format.

  • A. Hitler

    Stop stealing copyrighted material. That should end all your problems.

    Tell your mommy to raise your allowance (or get a damn job) and purchase the items stead of stealing them.

  • Ol’ Dave

    Buncha Euro pussies bitching about their entitlements. BTW assholes, there is a building in Omaha Nebraska that holds the Main tier 1 backbone. With a push of a button or two the entire North American portion of the internet can be disconnected from the rest of the world. How do I know? I work there.

    Have fun

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  • TheRudeDevil

    Looks like the US Government is aiming at becoming The Third Reich!

  • Truth

    For all of you idiots declaring the republicans wouldnt dare do this…

    You’re a fucking moron.

    This is about MONEY. Not republican vs Democrat.

    MONEY gets its way, no matter what.

    Anyone here using this situation to promote the republicans, is simply USING YOUR ANGER, AGAINST YOU.

    Stop and think for a second about that. Dont let others tell you one group is evil while another is perfect. That will never be true.

    This is purely about money…

    The RIAA, MPAA, do not care if you are republican or democrat, what they care about is securing their financial domination.

    THINK for a second about that as well.

    Because there are too many stupid people throwing about republican vs democrat, conservative vs liberal bullshit here. You’re ALL FUCKING TOOLS who fail to understand the system, how it works, and what drives it.

    You think Obama runs this? Wrong. Where do you think campaign donations come from?

    Why are there lobbyists? Why do THEY right the laws? Did you know that? Did you know that most of our laws regarding regulations of just about all industries, come from lobbyists?

    Or did you think these old politicians all know and understand how a torrent works?

    Give me a break.

    The system spoon feeds these idiots money, in return they make laws that benefit their donors.

    That is how it works. It has nothing to do with republicans vs democrats you fucking morons.

    All you do by continuing that cliche talking point battle, is simply assure that no change will EVER take place because you’re too dumb to realize how this whole thing works.

  • Tommy

    What’s next for these buffoons? Maybe the Bureau of Indian Affairs can start inspecting container ships as they enter ports. That makes as much sense and Homeland Security worrying about copyrights.

  • clayusmcret

    This is what happens when socialists take control of our government. “We did it because we can!”

  • jaybear

    what happened? did you widdle fweedums get stomped on?

    Not the Hope and Change you voted for?

    suck it up 52′ers….this is the government you voted for. enjoy

  • LDC

    Stealing is stealing. If you pay for an oil change and lube, if you pay for a doctor’s visit, if you pay for a meal at a restaurant, then why would you think you’re entitled to someone’s work–a book or music or movie–free?

  • Mike

    These sites are ripping off US Companies and Property Owners. They are selling fake items to US Consumers. Most of these items come from overseas and fail to pay proper customs duties upon entry to the US because they are usually smuggled in under a false bill of lading. DHS and the DOJ are protecting property and protecting American jobs.

  • MW

    It’s not about stealing copyrighted material.

    It’s about seizure of private property (site owners’ property) without DUE PROCESS.

    That means warrants. Evidence before a grand jury. Jury trial.

    And a conviction.

    What is happening, and what so many are outraged about, is the federal government stepping in and seizing private property WITHOUT due process. The 4th amendment guarantees the right to be secure against search and seizure without due process. That means the government does not have the right to make such seizures without first going through the courts.

    Those of you that think this is a non issue because someone is (allegely) stealing, and are fine with the feds playing judge and jury on their own, remember…..

    They may decide that your property is next. And they’ve just set a precedent for taking it merely on the accusation of wrongdoing, without conviction.

    And there will be the same crowd in the background cheering them on as they abrogate YOUR property rights.

  • Kevin

    All of you really smart Americans love the feminized nanny-state you created. Enjoy the ride, you ain’t seen nothing yet….

  • change back

    You all voted for this “change.” This is just the start…

  • JoeJoe

    Yes, most of you voted for Mr. Obama…now you have to live with it. We heading to a nation with now freedom. Where is President George W Bush when you NEED him?.

  • Mike

    Wake up people… Read and get educated… http://www.ice.gov...

    Immigration

    AND

    Customs

    Enforcement

    When DHS was created after 9/11 the investigative components of the former Immigration and Naturalization Service was joined with the former US Customs Service. One border/one agency. We handle immigration and customs related cases.

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  • Anonymous

    Elise, LDC and Mike

    Do you also agree it’s wrong for the government to steal? Without court authority to take these websites, that’s exactly what the govt did.

    Just because someone is accused of something doesn’t mean the accusations are true. That is why we have courts.

    Perhaps you would support doing away with costly trials, etc. If someone is accused of something, we should all just believe it’s true and punish them.

    Remember, the accusers are more often the liars than the accused.

  • LongHuangSilver

    Arrrrrg – Thou shalt not Pirate, ye maties.

    All your Domain Name arrrg belong to ICE now.

  • marvin nubwaxer

    humbug

  • Published author

    This news made my day. I’ve been watching all the bit torrent sites carry the book that I spent two years writing. It’s absolutely great to see them being taken down. Big fines and perhaps even some jail sentences to come soon! Yeah!

  • Sean Levi

    My goodness, is THIS what my tax dollars are paying for? Instead of creating jobs, securing the border, or even fixing up the highways, my tax dollars (and those of 220 million other hardworking Americans) have been used to shut down free speech on the Net?! And since when are Internet pirates threatening any lives?!! November 2010 wasn’t enough, we need the new Congress AND the military to coerce the black man in the white house to either show his eligibility to be in said office, or to drop the teleprompter and step away from the White House.

  • Mike

    Again,

    Read and get educated.

    The banner says: Seized pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a US District Court.

    That means a federal judge found probable cause exists for the seizure.

    Due process granted. The party that had a seizure warrant issued against him/her can go to court and refute the governments claim.

    These site facilitate the illegal trade of copyrighted or otherwise protected intellectual property.

    If they have a valid legal claim that would convince a judge to reverse the seizure action, so be it.

    But we’ve found that this isn’t the case 99.99% of the time.

    This is a wide spread crime: from swap meets, to high end stores, to internet based markets.

    The proceeds from this type of crime have been used to facilitate other types of crime, including narcotics, human smuggling, and terrorism.

  • Amazed

    Published author

    I hope ypou are accused of something someday. You will suddenly understand why constitutional protections are so important.

    Why are you so opposed to using the proper channels? If ICE has evidence, then they could easily have gotten a court order. Their power grab was just to set precedent for whatever web sites they want to shut down later.

  • Lugnut

    I trust all you idiots who voted for Mr. Hopey-Changey are getting what you wanted.

  • Sad Truth

    Being “free” on the internet is one thing that i agree with.

    Getting other people’s things for free on the internet is not the same however. Especially since most people have nothing of value to contribute yet steal what they can.

  • Letfreedomreign

    Remember that Obama and Google owners are on very good terms, check out the number of visits to the white house.

  • News

    It was about time http://www.qwinki.com

  • BobStrebs

    Dept. of Homeland Security (bastard child of the Patriot Act)plus Copyright Infringement equals legitimate anti-terrorist use of an illegitimate government tentacle? Have you yet to notice the stench of USA Inc. fascism?

  • Saul Alinsky

    You SOB Hussein Obama worshipers that put this communist puke in the whitehouse….enjoy the view as he steals and pillages your property!

  • vegaslad

    OMG they are taking down sites that are selling fake goods, and sites that are linking to stolen movies. Where or where am I going to get a fake $50 louie vatton bag for my wife, or a bad copy of a old tv show.

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  • It is all about money

    Too bad the government wont step up and do something like this with child porn sites….. I guess there isnt enough money involved.

    There are MUCH MORE important things to deal with than swinging a war hammer at a fly.

  • j6

    welcome to the NWO, police State!

  • Tropicaltico

    The US government is the largest criminal organization on earth.(Lie, Steal, Kill)
    Generations die but the US government never sleeps or dies. Now we have an illegal alien impersonating as the President. He has had very little holding him back. Pretty soon we will not be able to freely communicate online. We need to drastically cut them down to the founders blueprint.

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  • Bill Sorenson

    Don’t kid yourselves people. This isnt about copyright or any such thing.It’s about the control of the internet. Because the NWO faux Obama gov’t can’t seem to snow job the electorate WITH the internet operational, they must take control of it.

    THE US IS ON THE VERGE OF BECOMING A TOTALITARIAN STATE. WAKE UP! AS FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD, DON’T THINK THEY WILL STOP HERE.

  • RuRu

    Here the Liberal Democrats are calling everyone else Nazi”s and it turns out its THEM!!!!!

  • Anonomous

    Its not a Republican or Democratic problem, its a corruption of our entire Government by mega Corporations and the Banking System, wake up you fools!

    As long as we Americans buy into this whole Democrat/Republican bullshit, they have us by the throat. A Country divided cannot stand, that has been their plan for over 50 years and is working quite well for them.

    Blame our entire corrupt system of Government.

    All you have to do is make a list of who the Government bailed out and you have the Cartel who is choking us All (worldwide) to death.

    .

  • Surprised007

    I thought all this was gonna happen during the Bush years-I guess this is the “Change”.

  • Joe

    These are all small organizations that don’t have money to fight. They are bullies picking on the little people.

  • Alan

    why not shutdown wikileaks

  • FEDUP !(%)

    Welcome to the United States of China. The tyrants in DC have now started their assault on the American people and websites SUSPECTED are taken down… no innocent until proven guilty–not anymore.
    “When the people fear government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty.’ Thomas Jefferson.

  • wtf

    @ Mike

    The proceedes from this type of crime are not used to facilitate other types of crime. You are seriously misinformed if you believe that.

    Drug use fuels the drug trade. Prostitution, slavery, etc fuel the human smuggling trade. And state sponsors (albeit secretly), black arms deals, and in some circumstances the opium trade fuel terrorism. But don’t you dare say illegal downloading allows for others to do those things. That’s just silly and ignorant. That’s like saying all Muslims are terrorists. Which is comparable to saying all Catholics are terrorists (the IRA). All white people are terrorists (Nazis, KKK, etc). All people of latin descent are terrorists (drug dealers, human smugglers, etc). And I could go on, but I won’t.

  • Anonymous

    Look,,,,everyone with little exception here is missing the point. If someone was distributing your personal shit and infringing on YOUR copyright rights that YOU paid for, would you be so overwhelmingly nonchalant about losing that kind of money? I know I wouldn’t. I don’t like government getting involved with my crap either. But in this case, all they are doing is upholding the law; though the way they go about it appears dicey at best. All you need to do is shrug your shoulders, laugh a little about all the free shit you’ve gotten so far and find another outlet. There will ALWAYS be a way for legal thievery, whether you see it that way or not. Unfortunately, that’s exactly what it is……

  • Mike

    Hey “wtf”,

    Ever heard of money laundering? Probably not… Try getting out more and picking up a few books now and then.

    I run these cases and I’ve seen this multiple times…

    Life isn’t as simple as Red/Blue or Love Obama/Hate Obama…

  • Mugsy

    Stop stealing crap and you won’t have a problem!

  • Gordon

    To the foreigners:

    Sure, you guys go make your own Internet. (rolls eyes)

  • Analytics anyone?

    Anyone skimmed over the source codes of this websites thats been seized? Seems like we will either becomes just stats or then will start targeting the IP addresses that visit the site?

  • MW

    ” “My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!” the exasperated owner of Torrent-Finder told TorrentFreak this morning. ”

    Doesn’t sound like *he* was served with a warrant…..

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  • FAIL

    @825 Mike

    “Seized pursuant to a seizure warrant issued by a US District Court.

    That means a federal judge found probable cause exists for the seizure.

    Due process granted. The party that had a seizure warrant issued against him/her can go to court and refute the governments claim.”

    A court order that seizes private property without PRIOR notice and a chance to respond IS ILLEGAL. Or would have been in a non-totalitarian state. Ever heard of that little thing called audi alteram partem? It used to be a big deal in the America we used to love, but clearly not any more.

  • Mike

    Duh!

    The notice the domain owner received was when they gave him/her the seizure warrant. They don’t tell you prior to giving you the warrant. Doing so would allow the subject to destroy evidence…

  • alk

    imagine if this was taking place during a conservative white house..This is evil…we are saying goodbye to freedom in a big way…watch out for the “fairness doctrine” we won’t even be able to comment anymore….we need reaaly smart hackers…

  • America

    Wow.

    If this isn’t a wakeup call for you, then you don’t deserve to live in this country…

  • Mr.Kornet

    not a nice thing to do.

  • Mike

    FAIL,

    Not even close… Nice try though…

    I apply for a warrant based upon the results of my investigation. If the Judge in the US Distric Court finds the warrant is valid, he or she issues that warrant. Then I serve the warrant. At no time prior to the service of the warrant is the subject given advance knowledge that we are coming to arrest/search/seize him/her or evidence.

    Too much CSI for you…

  • Larrybud

    I find it interesting that so many people believe that preventing someone from fraud, copyright infringement, and selling fake products amounts to stopping “freedom”.

    You have no right to rip people off, bottom line.

  • Lindsey Lohan

    This has nothing to do with shutting down an illegal goods website. It has everything to do with shutting down websites.
    Period.
    And this is how they take their first steps. By convincing the gullible that it’s for… the common good. That it’s against piracy. Or something people might agree with. Watch how this gets FEROCIOUSLY abused later.
    Oh, and you Libs who are defending this… Soon the Right will be in power. What will you say then?

  • Rudolf

    Instead of fighting illegal aliens and terrorists Obuma’s ICE and Homeland security fight american businesses. That the change we love. Good work coward-in-chief.

  • monzoid

    What does ice have to do with the internet. Immigration Customs Enforcement. They refuse to stop the flood of illegal immigrants coming across our border and the flood of illegal chinese goods coming in our ports. But don’t download a single song or movie or its a million dollar fine and jail time.

  • Mike

    Rudolf

    American business? Most of the fake crap that is sold is from overseas…

    “lindsey lohan”

    “what will you say when the Right is in power?”

    Personally, I’ll say Yeah… I’m a lifelong Republican.

    This has nothing to do with politics…

    We’ve been combating theft of this type for years.

  • Gavin

    We will be going back to IP address as this rate.

  • Hamilton1776

    Welcome to the “GLOBAL IDEA” I have read a lot of rants but the truth is no one speaks up until your soft fuzzy part of your life is threatened. Some of you blame those americans. I have news for you. Many of us have been fighting against jerks like Obama for years. The infection of European Communism / socialism has finally made our shores. This fight belongs to anyone who wants to be free. Truly free people never wanted this and never will. I want nothing from our government, no handouts, nothing! I just to left alone, no mommy government, unmolested, unregulated. Can you say the same? If you can then stand up and demand your freedoms now while you still can.

  • Mike

    monzoid

    DHS/ICE Homeland Security Investigations isn’t shutting down the internet…

    HSI handles customs related investigations.

    IPR violators are in violation of US Code pertaining to protection of copyrights etc.

    Thus, these IPR violators, in this case, have set up shop on the intenet. We’ve shut down an internet based “storefront”. This is the same as when we obtain a search warrant and search/seize a warehouse full of counterfeit cigarettes, Nike shoes, or Louis Vitton purses…

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  • Anonymous

    Whats the big deal – they are all back up anyway and it took only 24 hrs. What a waste of resources.

  • disgusted

    Mike, you are one of the most vile, disgusting pieces of trash to ever walk this planet. You are a perfect specimen of the obsequious, subservient footsoldiers of the Reich, charged to hold the rest of us at gunpoint. You are Napoleon’s pet dog. You are the cancer that is killing America.

  • Mike

    Hi Disgusted

    wow… hope it felt good to get that off your chest…

    I’ll remember that the next time I arrest a child pornographer or a drug mule…

    your welcome

  • Roberta

    There is one thing to consider in all of this: DHS may be seizing these sites…not so much because of the copyright infringement…but, consider perhaps that that the terrorist cells among us are using these sites and this copyrighted merchandise (because they know how materialistic we are) to garner more funding in the cause to Islamize America and turn our Christian Constitution into the Muslim Shariah law. Read the book, MUSLIM MAFIA: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America. It’s written by P. David Gaubautz & Paul Sperry. It’ll open your eyes and if it doesn’t, just keep your eyes closed and your head buried in the sand. You’ll be infinitely sorry in about 20 more years or less!

  • joetheplumber

    I summon 4chan…

  • verbatim

    I hope all of you Obama supporters are happy. So much for “the most transparent and open” administration.

  • Mike

    Roberta,

    Thanks…my point exactly… There’s been case after case where this has happened.

    Also recommend Lightning Out of Lebanon by Tom Diaz and Babar Newman… Hezbollah terror funding

  • Steve

    his was posted on another site:

    “COICA would allow the government to block access to Web sites located anywhere in the world, while Homeland Security’s take-downs are limited to servers inside the United States.”

    So does this mean that the 77 sites had their servers and or domains in the USA?

    So if you have a non USA registry and server outside the USA, they cannot touch you. But then other places say ICANN was involved, if that’s the case doesn’t ICANN control all the domains regardless of extension and registry?

  • Mike

    Steve,

    Mainly has to do with the jurisdiction of the federal court that issued the warrant. We work with foreign govts to go after perps overseas, and ocassionally we get their cooperation. This is an area that we are hoping to get more assistance from China for example…

  • len

    LOL. and i bet 99% of the useful idiots now upset about the govt domain seizing voted for Obama. you dumb suckers.

  • Steve

    Mike, so these sites weren’t all through a US registrar or US hosting?

    I doubt ICANN had anything to do with this, all of these domains were .com which is through VERISIGN which is US based.

    If you have an extension outside the USA with an offshore server, it will be difficult for them to seize anything. IMO

  • nikrok1

    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    BUSH ISN’T THE PRESIDENT ANY MORE!
    What’s so hard to understand about that????????????

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  • refuse resist

    fuck these fascist bastards

    Our government has proven time and time again its not We The People

    its They the Corporate interests

    Impeach Obama

    Ron Paul 2012

  • Mike

    Steve,

    You’re right on the money…

    Analogous situation as a warehouse full of drugs on the Mexican side of the border… We go after the drugs at the border and inside the US. If a host country wants to work with us, then we work with them to go after the warehouse on their side of the border…

  • Europedofiles Suck

    What’s kind of funny is that I sit here and look at responses like “Someone really needs to shoot some people in the US to make this go away.” and “lets fuck the amicunts” and that these laws were “ENACTED UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH’S PRESIDENCY”

    Need I remind you Yuros that if it weren’t for the U.S. TWICE your little pretty mouths would be wrapped around some fat german cock squealing Hiel Hitler.

    As for the real issue it started in Yourrupp with the SVEEDs and the piratebay you stupid non investigating reactionary Euro pieces of trash.

    As usually you pieces of shit on both sides of the Atlantic are failing to recognize the fact that the U.S. has a Government that is trying to emulate those found in europe. With the farse of Eco this and Eco that all led by the true ‘mericans like ‘george soros’ that want to bring back the old european families domination of not just the U.S. and europe but the whole world under a ‘world order.’

    Do you want to know where you stand in their plan????

    Here’s a little test.

    Question 1 Are you worth billions of dollars?? (we know the answer to that which is why WE ARE ALL here on torrent reactor – to get free shit that we can’t afford to buy)

    Question 2 – Are you from Old European money families such as Rothchild or a Bilderberg member family (Again not a chance in hell because you ARE HERE)

    If you answered no to any of the two previous questions then you have 2 choices 1. Open that BIG OLD European pucker whole because Old Soros is going to make his entry on you! 2. Fight them!

    So where do you fall? Still quibbling over copyrights? Or are you seeing the bigger scheme of things that are planned by the elite for nothings like us. I for one got my mossberg and my glock locked and loaded. Do you? OHHH thats right! You fuck heads are unarmed – LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

    So sorry :(

  • Steve

    Mike – if ICANN is INVOLVED then its trouble because don’t they pretty much control all the extensions?

    Also, if the COICA bill does pass then they will be able to blacklist any IP’s they want so USA computers won’t be able to view the site but it will still be online to the rest of the world, regardless of where the site is hosted, etc.

  • Papa-san

    It will help many people in countries other than the USA to understand that a significant majority of the normal citizens of this country are NOT supporting the way our government is handling a LOT of things.
    They have been systematically destroying this country. Attempting to change it into either a Monarchy or an Oligarchy.

    We were originally founded as a Republic, NOT a democracy, as even a true democracy is sure to deviate until it becomes a socialist type system. The republic is designed to keep the powers at the top reined in… That has slipped away from us over the last half century or more. Finally, Americans are waking up to it, and are looking to clean up the problem.

    This thing has NOTHING to do with immigration or national security… The reason those agencies are doing it is due to the dishonest maneuvering of our politicians over that time… Slipping unrelated things into laws they pass… THAT is what the American people are getting wise to, and it will be getting fixed shortly, come Hell or high-water…

  • CalmShark

    Stop blaming Americans in general. I am an American and totally opposed to the statist agenda of my government. This is strictly a result of American Liberal Democrats gaining power in our government. They must be stopped and we must all collaboratively work together as hacktivist to combat all government and crony corporate oppression of freedom.

    While using alternate unifiedroot domains and sundial browser is a start and using ip addresses can help, that’s not enough. We need an encrypted internet alternative that can use the strength of SSL or HTTPS connections to obliterate all snooping on internet activities.

  • Roberta

    Thanks for your confirmation, too…Mike! It seems to be making more and more sense to me now. Especially in light of the new report of the young Muslim man that was caught in the latest sting operation to blow-up a large number of people in a Christmas celebration! I’m sure this will become more and more commonplace. I just pray that the authorities are involved in EVERY one of them so that no one is hurt. People, you must be made aware of the vast danger this country is in…beyond what our own government is doing to us. There is more control coming down on everyone because those that want to change our Constitution and ways of life are allowing the foreign entities in to assist in making sure the changes are made! We must become increasingly more active in the choices our government makes “for us”. If we are NOT involved, then they are free to make whatever choices they want. It’s what they have been doing (and we have been allowing them to do) for far too long now. The time to speak your piece is NOW!!!

  • mike

    im wondering how many of you guys voted for obama

  • Hahaha

    Thank You for Voting Obama to office.

  • Mike

    Steve,

    I think you are correct about the COICA.

    It is going to change oversight of domains significantly.

    IMO, I’m not sure how all of this will turn out.

    Unintended consequences seem to be the norm when ever these agreements are fielded.

    They are probably going to tell us that other agreements exist that will allow governments to go after individuals using the internet to facilitate criminal activity.

  • WhiteSnow

    Revolution is Coming to America!!

    I noticed 3 times revolution being mentioned. Now is the time to read that new book out that is fantastic about Americans taking a stand against federal tyranny.

    It’s powerful & with real characters & events. Need to read it. I recommned it.

    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

  • Roberta

    Not any great choices in the last presidential election…but, I did NOT vote for Obama! :)

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  • gatera9

    Welcome to Obamaworld! Gvt without limit nor brain.

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  • loyalamerican

    dont ya’ll know that al gore invented the internet ? thats what the obama administration thinks, thats why they are doing this!!!!! 2012 cant get here fast enough for me!!! they have already siezed GM and Chrysler and all of the big banks here i guess the internet was the next logical rung on the ladder to socialism

  • cpl. steve

    the dems are really screwing up their voting block.

  • Mike

    Roberta,

    I’m hoping that Americans wake up as well. We need everyone to start reading and paying attention to the road our ever increasing govt is on. I hold out some hope, SOME hope, the the GOP will listen this time and start to reverse the increase in federal spending that has taken place over the last 10 years. But I am afraid that power will once again corrupt…

    That’s just my personal opinion.

    As far as the Somali man you were referring to in Oregon… You want to get more concerned? Try this on: Somalies get basically unconditional assylum here in the USA. They show up to our border without any documents and claim assylum. The laws are written so they basically get in. We try and we try, but without any form of goverment in Somailia to confirm identities, they get granted parole into the US. Al Shabab, a Somali based terror organization, has been in the news over and over again the last two years… If anyone isn’t familiar with this, do a google search on Al Shabab… Then call your congressman and tell him/her to change US policy on admiting Somalies….

  • Mike

    Wow, Governement take over. How you all like CONTROL?

  • had enough

    next they will come after anyone who has shared these files get ready.

  • Nick N.

    The Mexican border is unprotected, immigration policy is in shambles and they have time to be using police power to remedy civil wrong. What’s wrong with this picture?

  • Roberta

    I’m sensing that Obama is actually a Muslim “plant”. There are more than him within our government body and (if we’re not careful) there will be more! But there have been far more policies made and changed right under the noses of the people than with any other president. Obama still continues to “flex his presidential muscle” and force through policies against the wishes of the majority of the American people. It has been astounding to me that he has been able to accomplish these so easily! I’ve not witnessed any other president have so much autonomous control! Especially given the fact that he truly is NOT qualified to have become the president in the first place! He, himself, has admitted on video that he was NOT born on American soil! We’ve got to work towards IMPEACHMENT before it is too late and we are captives of our own country!

  • USA Bob

    Amazing. The progressive left screamed when the last administration listened on terrorist phone calls. Now when they’re in charge, You have to get naked to get on a plane and the internet is being systematically moved under their control.
    I really miss George W Bush!!!!.

  • Martin

    Yes, more hope and change that you liberal bastards voted for. Obama lied to your ass and you were warned by every conservative alive.

    Time to step out of denial and just admit you made a huge mistake.

  • Yea

    99% of the complaints are from the loser thieves. What’s the matter, can’t thieve around and suck off producers anymore? LOL!

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  • noklue

    The US is now a Communist state, the freedom they once enjoyed is now gone, a revolution is in the mix, freedom fighters are secretly assembling in every state to retake the US and once again put it under the rule of law under the constitution. Unfortunately those who are in power now will be hanged or shot, even after they are “voted out of office, their possessions and lands will be auctioned off to repay the enormous debt they incurred. Freedom will ride again.

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  • Roberta

    Thanks for the information, Mike. I’ve been in contact with my state reps and senators over several other issues as it is (one of them being the various amnesty bills for illegal aliens that keep cropping up). So I will just add this one to my list of topics for which to push action. NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you want to try to bring our freedoms back, then we need to work toward getting all the illegal aliens out of our country and seriously curb the future influx of migrant workers from every corner of the U.S.!!! Phone and send e-mails to all your state reps and senators telling them what YOU want and expect of them…and don’t stop with just one message or call. We need to HOUND them with our messages or they will do what they want. I’m begging all of you to…PLEASE…get involved before we no longer have a voice at all!!!

  • Anonymous

    WOW! Censorship is in da house.

  • catherine

    so Ice is dealing with copy right issues now..well that makes sense because they have not had anything to do latley..its not like they are dealing with immigration issues..what is wrong with this picture….homeland security shutting down these websites but not islamic websites that preach hate against the west…

  • Anonymous #99

    I guess the government should just allow people to continually have their music, movies and software stolen via torrents. That’s all it is — just straight up theft. The government is doing the right thing. For all of those people who feel that the government is going to far — would you say the same thing if someone stole all of your money and you know who did it — and the government went and arrested the people involved? Torrents are nothing more than organized theft. Freedom of information, I can support — freedom to steal my (and others’) music — hell no.

  • J.R. “Bob” Dobbs

    Deeply disturbing for those who like to steal shit that doesn’t belong to them.

    Don’t like this? Don’t use a US controlled domain name.

    All foreigners, get the fuck off our internet. You’re welcome to make your own and if it’s better I’ll pay to use it.

  • Anonymous

    Stop with the “obamas fault,obamas fault” comments.

    The president is just a puppet.

    WELCOME TO 1984.

  • J.R. “Bob” Dobbs

    How’s that hope and change working out for you, libtards? Enjoy your net neutrality laws next.

    Ronald Reagan deregulated broadcasting. Al Gore tried to ban heavy metal music.

    Think about it.

  • PlayBoyMan

    So does this mean that they will be taking down Yahoo, Google and Bing next ?

  • Anonymous

    @21: I propose a simpler method: Let’s start a torrent-tracker-tracker website. It will keep track of the IPs of torrent-tracker sites.

  • J.R. “Bob” Dobbs

    This is very disturbing to children who like to steal data that doesn’t belong to them. The sense of entitlement is incredible here.

    If you don’t like it, get a non-US domain name. If you don’t like that, get the hell off our Internet and make your own, just like China. I’m sure you’ll enjoy that much better. Then you can steal all the US made warez and music you like.

  • first comma then

    another slice gets eaten.

  • J.R. “Bob” Dobbs

    More awesomeness from our Kenyan Teleprompter in Chief. Every retard out there who voted for him is responsible for this. Pat yourself on the back and keep lapping it up, tools.

  • I Guess

    “I guess the government should just allow people to continually have their music, movies and software stolen via torrents.”

    I guess the Government should just stay out of corporate business issues and get back to their intended job spelled out in the original constitution, before they subverted it with corporate dollars.

    Government is nothing but a puppet lawmaker/enforcer for Corporations.

    If Sony has problems with piracy, that is their problem to solve on their own, just like my “little guy” problems are my own to solve, no protections for Corporations.

    We now have The best Government money can buy.

    .

  • Carlos

    and people complained when Bush tapped the international calls of known terrorists. With Obama, we have airport porno-scanners and package handling, internet censorship and shutdowns (remember the 30K blogs shutdown earlier). Obama wants a Intenet kill-switch as well.

    Welcome to 1984 kiddies.

  • Anonymous

    @Elise 826

    Illegal Search and Seizure is stealing too, what do you say about the government stealing your freedoms guaranteed you by the constitution and amendments?

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  • 8008135

    Government shills, or audacious trolls? Either way, here they are in our internets, trying to justify the “disappearing” of a bunch of websites.

    I’m not too fussed about the counterfeit goods websites being gone. Trademarks are there to protect the moron-in-a-hurry consumer from fraud.

    What I can’t stomach is that in the long list of websites, you can find websites that are clearly NOT peddling counterfeit goods. I can’t speak for the torrent sites in question, but torrent search engines are generally NOT ILLEGAL in themselves. Facilitating infringement? What sort of Orwellian nightmare did Biden pull that one out of? If there’s infringement, then go after the infringers. Why don’t they go seize the domains of the tobacco companies? I’m sure their businesses pose a much greater danger to everyone than all the torrents and el cheapo Vuittons websites combined.

    Or, are they now going to weave some tale about connections to organized crime, money-laundering, terrorists and zombie pirates? I hear some of those are quite popular in some god-forsaken eastern European countries. But this is supposed to be the US, and what I don’t see is EVIDENCE. The site operator vehemently denies any such connections, so someone convince me that those authorities are not randomly harassing websites because of pressure from the copyright industry lobbies. Show me that the search engines in question were responsible for the infringements, and not the users who uploaded the content on the internet. Show me there was good cause to get the warrants, and they weren’t just granted by friendly judges of ICE’s choice without evidence or scrutiny.

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  • Anonymous

    @ol’ Dave 828

    Well that’s nice, now the terrorist can nuke Omaha and take out our internet connection as a prelude to a larger strike.

  • canadian

    I can sort of understand the counterfeit goods….. but what’s the deal with “Dept. of Homeland Security” and illegal music downloads? Is that really their department? MP3 collecting terrorists? Is Osama bin Laden stealing tunes for his iPod? Obviously immigration needs to get involved…. because….. ummmmm…. ok, you got me.

  • Ann

    I read that they are going to bring up the net-neutrality (sp) just days before Christmas to squeak it thru the lameduck Congress (Repubs that kick Dems asses during the midterms are not seated until I think Nov 3) i seriously wonder if this has something to do with this potential power grab.
    Your anger (from outside the states) matches my own. We are sooooo utterly phucked here in the US!

  • Mike

    Catherine

    “so Ice is dealing with copy right issues now..well that makes sense because they have not had anything to do latley..its not like they are dealing with immigration issues..what is wrong with this picture….homeland security shutting down these websites but not islamic websites that preach hate against the west…”

    No Ma’am, ICE (and formerly US Customs) have always dealt with criminals violating intellectual property rights. ICE/HSI deals with a huge part of the US Code: Title 8 Immigration, Title 19 Customs, Title 18 Criminal Code, and Title 21 (DEA primary) Drug Enforcment.

    In my experience, Titles 18, 19, and 21 are easy to enforce with broad public approval. Title 8 has always been problematic and politicized. INS had its hands tied and now that INS has merged with US Customs into ICE/HSI, we have our hands tied to a degree. Let me say this though, I know that ICE isn’t going into communities doing general roundups of illegal aliens, but our sister component, ICE ERO, Enforcement and Removal Operations along with HSI has removed a record number of criminal illegals last year. We have removed more during FY 10 that at any time in recent history. For additional background, go to http://www.ice.gov and read about that and other issues. We have focused our limited immigration resources on criminal aliens (child preditors, rapists, drug trafficers, prior deports, terrorists, etc.)

  • MonkeyBreath

    Everyone has forgotten due to Liberal indoctrination in our public schools, power comes from the people to the Government, not the other way around.

    Protect our borders, language and culture, and leave us the Hell alone.

    .

  • Nobody

    This is very confusing. How come they have not shut down YOUTUBE.COM which distributes/serves ALL KINDS OF COPYRIGHTED ITEMS without the owners’ permission? THIS SEEMS VERY ARBITRARY AND ONE-SIDED–although, obviously, NOBODY should be using anybody else’s copyrighted materials without clear prior permission, and that permission should be clearly STATED on the website or wherever the copyrighted materials are being broadcast or distributed, WITH PRIOR PERMISSION.

  • fizzy

    I love to download. I love free stuff. and I could sit here and come up with argument after argument as to why I should be able to continue to do that. But, in my heart, I know that downloading is hurting the music industry, hurting new artists and that we should have to pay if we want to enjoy somebody’s art that they have worked hard to create. Oneday, they will make it impossible for us to be able to continue to do this, so we shoud just enjoy it while we can, get what we can and when they do shut it down, suck it up. Because deep in your hearts, you know that it is wrong, too.

  • Mike

    Catherine,

    Also,

    ICE/HSI has applied for and received a federal seizure warrant for each site that was shut down. These sites are involved in criminal activity that steals from the legitimate property owner and that facilitate the entry of counterfeit goods into US Commerce.

    ICE/HSI isn’t involved with shutting down the Islamic websites you’ve mentioned because it isn’t a violation of the laws we are charged with enforceing and most likely would involve a constitutional enfringment on free speech. No US District Court would issue a warrant for that action.

  • Mike

    fizzy…

    You had the number one comment of the day…

    thanks

  • Anonymous

    Holy shit… more than 1000 comments on this news.

  • dg100

    I’ve decided to give up commenting on-topic for the moment because of the incredible level of obvious trolling. Up to 925 comments as I write, now, and we’ll probably hit the big 1K soon. I guess this means The Massed Ranks of Anonymous are now officially both anti-Obama and anti-piracy. :P

    More seriously, 4channers: just for the benefit of your future trolling efforts, you may want to consider that any naturally occurring group of people will tend have a wider spread of views. 2/3rds will try to express whatever they perceive to be “mainstream” opinions in a given discussion.

    They are also, I think, generally a lot less likely to use the word “THIEF” over and over in big capital letters, which just comes across as deeply surreal. :D

    Finally, I like a good, well-reasoned argument (from trolls or anyone else), but if the quantity of comments is too high, I’ll have forgotten most of the things I want to reply to by the time I get to the end, which makes a debate rather difficult.

    I hope some of you find this helpful and that this improves the quality of future discussions. Have a good one, chaps! :)

  • Mike

    The most disturbing part of this whole debacle is that it’s ICE doing the operations. It just how full of Sh#$@#t Obama and his cronies are. They’ve been saying for two years that ICE doesn’t have the resources to deport more illegal immigrants. I guess we know why now. It’s typical goverment mismanagement and power grabs.

  • Ben

    How all do of you Digg users like your Obama now? Is he still the champion of th working class or the hugest tool of the media empires?

  • Ben

    Don’t be fooled – this has nothing to do with artists, new content, or emerging talent – this is all about controlling the flow of how entertainment reaches those that want it.

    Its amazing how these people that are totally against torrents are totally pro-gov when it comes to seizing income of and assets of working people.

  • Mike

    Hi Mike,

    Actually,

    This has nothing to do with ongoing Immigration investigations. ICE/HSI is staffed to fulfill our investigative responsiblities.

    This issue is more complex and involved than meets the eye. There are limited immigration detention spaces, limited immigration attornies, and limited immigration judges.

    What would the American people say if we had no room for a violent criminal child rapist who was an illegal alien because our system was full to the brim with non criminal illegals?

    ICE/HSI does significantly more than just immigration and IPR is just one of those investigative areas.

    If you are truely concerned and want to know more, go to http://www.ice.gov and you can read about what we do.

  • Craig

    Have most of you been living in a cave? The IRS has been stepping outside US borders for years, and the US Empire has been pushing global governance through expanding global bureaucracies such as UN, IMF, NATO, EU, EEC, CIA, MI5, NSA/FBI, UNESCO, Lucis Trust, World Union, World Union, World Goodwill, Esalen Institute, World Federalist Assoc, World Constitution Assoc,…… god damn people, stop the New World Order. Resist by all means available.

  • DeathNell

    “ICE/HSI isn’t involved with shutting down the Islamic websites you’ve mentioned because it isn’t a violation of the laws we are charged with enforcing”

    Threaten our Monopolistic Corporations and we will destroy you, threaten our Nation as a whole and we will protect your free speech , apologize and bow to you kissing your ass at the same time, hard to believe this is happening,

    we are doomed as a Nation, and deserve it.
    .

  • Ann

    Ugh I just had a thought about the headline in recent days about Twitter content and how it can be deemed threatening?! remember that. we are soooo phucked. I shouldn’t find it all so absurd but seriously anyone who thought Obama really gave a shat about any of us…. how naive!!

  • Joey

    Wonder if drudge is next?

  • dally

    ynthrepic,
    You little fag. you don’t know what the fuck your talking about. It is NOT republicans or religious fanatics that want to arrest people for downloading mp3s. It is that fascist piece of shit you and your bitching euro fag buddies on here voted for and cheered into the white house that is now using homeland security to go after YOU. It’s not normal corporations that are suing americans for downloading it is hollywood, the RIAA and MPAA. The same bunch of drugged out retards that along with you all put that ape in the white house. You wanted it. You got it. Now shut the fuck up and take it.

  • Minder

    Please provide the IP adresses of blocked sites, so users can update their /etc/hosts file. One could also write a plugin for browsers to take care of this (should work a bit like adBlock, let’s call it SUB – SiteUnBlock).

  • Ana

    Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall is Yahweh.

  • Paul Revere

    From: Campaign For Liberty

    November 27, 2010

    Dear Friends of Liberty,

    Just days after Thanksgiving, Senate statists will hold a series of critical votes on the War on Food bill this Monday, November 29..

    Tell them to oppose S.510, the misnamed “Food Safety Modernization Act,” on every vote – including cloture.

    S. 510 will open the floodgates for tyrannical federal bureaucrats to crush the food industry’s small businesses.

    The bill’s proponents suggest that a few provisions totally address concerns of small-scale farmers, but closer examination reveals the FDA acquires even more power to shut down family farms on a whim.

    And you can be sure that the government’s Big Agriculture allies will have no problem adjusting to the new corporatist rules.

    Unless the freedom movement immediately takes a stand, the establishment will be able to chalk up one more win for the Big Government status quo.

    In these tough economic times, S. 510 will drive up the costs of food production by adding more layers of government interference.

    The bill also empowers federal agencies to impose international guidelines and standards on domestic food producers – molding American food production into an unhealthy globalist Codex system.

    It should be noted that Senators Tom Harkin (D-IA), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Judd Gregg (R-NH), Chris Dodd (D-CT), and Richard Burr (R-NC) coordinated to reach a “bipartisan” agreement earlier in the year to forge ahead with the otherwise stalled bill.

    If you are a constituent of any of these senators, they especially need to hear from you.

    Don’t let the statists empower their Big Agriculture allies and destroy reputable food producers like the independent family farm, where the free market works every day to provide the public with healthy choices.

    Make sure they’re greeted with a loud and clear message from you when they return to Capitol Hill on Monday.

    In Liberty,

    John Tate
    President

    Re: http://senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

  • Mike

    DeathNell

    Good day,

    If you don’t like what the Islamic websites are saying, lobby your congressman to change the law and work a constitional amendment through the system.

    In twenty years or so once the amendment works its way through congress and the states, and IF the Islamic website is located within the jurisdiction of US Federal Courts, I’d be happy to serve a warrant to shut it down.

    That is the way it is…

  • Speedy

    The Australian TV channels do not show all the shows here that I want to watch. When they do show them, I do tend to watch them on TV. That is, until the #$%^ channel stops the series halfway through to play the fracking tennis or fu$cking Seinfeld repeats.

    IF they published the websites we could LEGALLY get the shows, I would not mind paying for them.

    NCIS is a case, the local channel ignores the episodes and stops them when rating season is over. The American sight where you are supposed to be able to see them, are not legally allowed in Australia.

  • Ann

    I also wouldn’t put it passed Obama and the admin for a second to put this train in motion, to gain control over the content on the net, so he can better position himself to win in 2012.

  • obamasuxs

    r e v o l u t i o n

  • TV Slime

    The government has lots of time for this, with the lame duck Congress and Presidency impotent to focus on job creation, lowering taxes, smaller government agencies,etcetera, etcetera.
    They do have time to empower the TSA to engage the public in sexual molestation, continue a spending rampage only seen from the likes of Imelda Marcos, and doing everything to impede society from having a viable free enterprise system.
    That’s totalitarianism, kids.
    “You will do as you are told and will be stuffed into our mold until the rights to you are sold”

  • energizerbunny

    Does anyone think the pornographic pat downs at the airport have anything in common with this? It is about freedom and this government does not believe in freedom but the control of your lives. Wake up America!!!! Every little piece of freedom they seize makes it harder to take it back. Look at Chavez. He keeps nationalizing piece by piece. It is time to stand up for freedom.

  • country picker

    You guys wanted Obama. Well, you got him! Now What?

    Hahahahahahahaha!

  • Cashman Law Firm, PLLC (http://www.cashmanlawfirm.com)

    Look, I’m pretty upset at what I’m seeing here as well, although I do not know exactly what to do about it.

    Our law firm is an intellectual property firm, and it appears as if copyright violations have been taking up much of our time.

    As an attorney and the owner of the firm, I would be completely happy to mount a defense and/or a lawsuit and/or a lobbying effort to stop this from happening. If any of you would like to band together to do something, I’d be more than willing to take a stand.

    Rob Cashman, Owner
    Cashman Law Firm, PLLC
    rzcashman@cashmanlawfirm.com
    http://www.cashmanlawfirm.com

  • Jimmy Kilpatrick

    I wonder how deep Google is behind this BS?

  • DeathNell

    “If you don’t like what the Islamic websites are saying, lobby your congressman to change the law and work a constitional amendment through the system.”

    Its a corrupt system, I don’t have George Soros money to do that, you are blind and cannot read, you are paid from the same corrupt system, I do understand your position of being corrupted by it.

    We already have constitution provisions to deal with this, but again, it has been subverted by people who think like you Lame Ass Kissers.

    You Sir are part of the problem and will be part of the great failure of this country because you are spineless to do anything about it, now go back and stop those fake purse thieves, good job!

    .

  • Mike

    DeathNell

    Wow DeathNell,

    Lots of pent up emotion. Sorry you didn’t get a simple answer for your simple worldview. Take a deep breath…

  • E. Nigmatic

    If da Gub-mint is going to shut down sites, why oh why wouldn’t they eradicate the gratuitous filth that makes up about 2/3 of all internet content?

    Oh, wait… there’s no profitability in that; what WAS I THINKIN’?

  • DeathNell

    968
    Rob Cashman the Lawyer, now that takes the cake.

    Now for my favorite Lawyer joke:

    You know what 70 Lawyers on the bottom of the ocean is?

    A Good Start.

    .

  • Dork

    968
    Rob Cashman the Lawyer, now that takes the cake.

    Now for my favorite Lawyer joke:

    You know what 70 Lawyers on the bottom of the ocean is?

    A Good Start.

    .

  • Totallydad61

    Welkome to Amerika!

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  • Mike

    Well folks…

    Started by looking at the latest news by checking out Drudge…

    Ended up reading the comments here, which is never a good idea…

    Got sucked into a conversation which I have firsthand experience in…

    Educated a few…been insulted by a few…

    Time to go play Call of Duty…

    Out…

  • bobgraham

    If anyone stopped to think before hitting the send button, none of this would be remotely necessary. STUPID LAWS FOR STUPID PEOPLE syndrome. How many did not see this coming to keep the insane liars of politics, rapists of little kids, and general ne’r do wells out of the public? For those who did not I will switch to a language you can understand.. Ba Ba Ba Baahhhhh

  • iop

    Neostyles has left the building. Or is it Reasoned Mind?

  • mtclem

    I always wondered why it is that “sharing” music/movies etc. is not considered stealing? Maybe I could just come and “share” the stuff in your house? Would that be ok?

  • lamila

    Kudos to hotdog!!!!!!

  • paulrevere

    If anyone stopped to think before hitting the send button, none of this would be remotely necessary. STUPID LAWS FOR STUPID PEOPLE syndrome. How many did not see this coming to keep the insane liars of politics, rapists of little kids, and general ne’r do wells out of the public? For those who did not I will switch to a language you can understand.. Ba Ba Ba Baahhhhh Okay?

  • paulrevere

    Censoring here too? If anyone stopped to think before hitting the send button, none of this would be remotely necessary. STUPID LAWS FOR STUPID PEOPLE syndrome. How many did not see this coming to keep the insane liars of politics, rapists of little kids, and general ne’r do wells out of the public? For those who did not I will switch to a language you can understand.. Ba Ba Ba Baahhhhh Okay?

  • chet napier

    Lets see if they got their prioritys straight you cant download a song but you can still get kiddie /horse /dog porn

  • CheeseDog

    Now that things have quieted down in the music world, maybe it’s time to take a real hard look at what is really happening. Your government is now controlled by corporations. You have no rights anymore, the Constitution is toilet paper, and you lost it all because you were too busy listening to mindless and shitty music.

  • I are educated, ain’t you

    Two words, folks:

    SPELL CHECK!

  • anonymous

    You concervative fucks forget that Bush is who made Homeland Security, the patriot act etc which pretty much sliced up your bill of rights. And the corporations have both the Dems and Republitards in their pockets so it’s not just the Dems. Even if you change the congress the president and the judiciary this will all be the same because big business runs everything dumbasses. They are in the ears of both parties wanting money to get elected or reelected. You can thank the supreme court for that because after their ruling on campaign financing the skies the limit. If you don’t believe this than you’ve been watching too much Fox news. This is not a Republic or a Democracy it’s a corporate police stae.

  • VicMac

    How funny….

    I’d bet that most users of these seized websites were Obama supporters.
    FOOLS !!!!!!

    Hope you’re enjoying your hope and change. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

    Now start PAYING for your music…
    Fools.

  • Ann

    I’m right this is the beginning of the power grab. Harry Reid majority leader in a committee of 19-0 of this “bill” then, they will try to pass it in the senate and in the house probably just like i said the way they passed the senate passed the healthcare bill last year, days before Christmas. This bill, the way it’s created means the gov under their authority and given reasons (copyright infringement which is a huge venue to flex their power) at any time take down any site.
    I am just hoping that we have some good House Reps even tho they got their butts beat during the midterms that will not allow this to happen, I have less faith in the Senate.

  • Steve

    I bet you are sorry you voted for the socialest obama.

  • Ann

    the relasted post above (on this page) Senate Committee Passes Bill To Quash Pirate Websites
    explains what I just posted.

  • zero gravity

    Yeah well, if a large majority of music artists are useful idiots for the liberal agenda red diaper baby Communist leaning Democrat Party in the United States, this smells somewhat like legislation to protect the propaganda wing of the Rolling Stone and similar interests?

    The business solution to fight counterfeiting, is to use license fees? Counterfeiting slows down new product development, by denying funds to inventors. I’ve never used torrents, not knowing what the computer is transmitting or receiving, and wondering if that can hurt my country, kind of bothers me.

    Maybe if businesses could modify the torrent technology to ensure that traffic is legitimate and traceable, then torrent search engines could cash in on that innovation.

  • Dima

    Fuck these US government assholes… trying to control the internet and police what isn’t theirs to govern… They should just go back to doing what they do best… stealing oil from middle eastern countries and sucking the proverbial dick of corporate America.

  • kenema

    Isn’t it f*ckin odd that these Obama supporters are silent about this but were outraged with Bush for listening to terrorists phone calls overseas?

  • indieone

    @Amazed (811)

    Thanks for seeing my point. If you see my post (718) I agreed with another poster that this should NOT have been done without due process.
    But, I do think the filesharing idea has run amok. I don’t think the TSA has a right to violate the 4th amendment either, but that’s a different topic.

    So, no I don’t support a dictator nor would I ever support the erosion of our constitutional rights. I can not agree, however, that theft of intellectual property is a right just because there happens to be a new point of view that the internet should be a free flow of information in all cases. If it infringes on the rights of another human being to contain the flow of information that they themselves create in order to make a living, then the infringement is wrong. I know that you aren’t disputing that, as you have stated.

    Everybody is having to adapt to this “no rules” chaos all at the same time. It will be interesting to see what new areas are forged as a result. The strong survive, I guess.

  • J Rice

    Just another flush of that sweet Hope and Change! OH YES THEY CAN.

    Don’t forget to blame Bush now.

  • dally

    You concervative fucks forget that Bush is who made Homeland Security, the patriot act etc which pretty much sliced up your bill of rights.

    Bush used homeland security to go after terrorists trying to murder people you asshole not go after 13 year olds downloading mp3s! Are you seriously that retarded?! It is NOT evil corporations going after people idiot it is specifically the MPAA and the RIAA and hollywood. They are ALL DEMOCRATS.. Please get that through your thick head. It was NOT Bush. Can you comprehend that? Do you have the mental capacity to understand that hollywood is not supporting republicans? Yes we can! Yes we can! yes we can! idiot

  • Ann

    Harry Reid isn’t on the list of the 19 who voted for it but he is such a slimeball I”m sure he wheeled and dealed for it.

    The FACT of the matter is that the pirate “excuse” is just that an excuse to censor, control, and regulate the internet.

    If it was a committee bill just for piracy I wouldn’t be so concerned, but in the bill it’s laced with much more power and authority over the net.

    It kills me to see Repubs names on the bill take about selling out to the devil you muther frackers!

  • kenema

    What does this have to do with Homeland Security?

  • apollo

    What’s the deal with all the scarf shops, tie shops, and golf shops on the list? Terrorists like nice ties?

  • urstrange

    Where did Big B.O. and Big Sis find the time during their busy “thankful for being in Kontrol” and “not very giving weekend” of groping, feeling up while patting down, herding sheeple into the naked nuker scanners, and playing b-ball, fat lipping, telling our military to “stand down” after going on high alert because of the treaty trigger of the attack on S. Korea to close down domains on the net?? Busy little Kommunists and are We the Sheeple tired of it yet???

  • Ethelred

    If only the U.S. Government would put as much attention into fighting illegal immigration as they are into fighting file sharing then imagine how much more secure our borders would be!

  • Ann

    I say that about Repubs because Repubs are supposed to stand for small government and this is nothing but!

    Bush isn’t in office anymore and this committee bill was passed in the Senate, a Senate that is controlled by dems.

    ahem.

  • Moe Lester

    Be Advised that the Google hosts MANY illegal files (via YouTube,etc) and you will never see the Gubmint shut them down haphazardly like this fo sho.

    THIS IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AT ITS WORST !

    The PEOPLE will rise up against the federal government in your lifetime if this crap keeps up. VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

    THEY WORK FOR US – WE DON’T WORK FOR THEM !

    DOWN WITH OPPRESSIVE OBAMA REGIME !

  • Ann

    I’m sure right now deals are being strucked to get this to pass in the House. Reid is a slimeball but he is effective at corruption and this is exactly what he did last year with Obamacare.

    I just wonder if the newly elect Congress can do something to block it. I really hope and pray so. Otherwise these sort of posts may be a thing of the past yall

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  • Larry

    For all you dumbass’s that keep saying “who do the Americans think they are” when it comes to the internet. In case you did not know morons that the internet was created by the Americans. The Department of Defense to be precise so you in the rest of the world can shut the fuck up because it is not your internet in the first place. You are given the privledge of connecting to an American made technology. Although I do not like what MY piece of shit tyrannical government is doing I am sick and tired of you whiners from all other countries thinking we owe you something or that the internet belongs to you. IT DON’T belong to you so quit your whining. Follow the laws of OUR country which OWNS the internet and YOUR shit won’t be taken by Homeland Security. For those that do not think that the Department of Defense is the maker and owner of the internet then do some research and quit being so ignorant.

  • Tujon

    The greatest threat to freedom this country has ever had is the Agency of Homeland Security! I would like to blame it on Obama, but it was started by Bush. I am just sitting back and waiting for the shooting to start, and start it eventually will.

  • Anon

    And where is the ACLU and all the people complaining about the previous administration’s “taking of civil rights”? The current administration is FAR WORSE in every way.

  • Steve

    this has nothing to do with the COICA that was just passed by the Senate Judiciary Committee, that bill is now on hold and it won’t even be reintroduced until next year, if at all. If it is, it will be a different bill and will still have to pass in the Senate and House.

    the COICA will allow the attorney general to blacklist any IP so US computers won’t be able to view the domain. So it will be a form of censorship.

    what is happening now by ICE is different. they are seizing these domains via warrants and since .com is based in the USA they have jurisdiction. So even if you have a non USA domain name, if its a .com, .net or through a USA registry it can be seized. In some cases, these domains were being hosted in the USA or the domain registrar was USA based so they can seize it that way too.

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  • Ann

    Bull. Obama and Reid and to a certain extent Pelosi have a lot to do with this. Homeland Security does not pass bills. They enforce them perhaps, but they don’t pass them. This bill was passed on the 18th and I’m sure with Obama and his cohorts behind him, approved of the seize. Perhaps to scare the public a little. Beck (who I don’t really follow because although his content can be interesting his delivery is way too self stroking) has said that the admin is trying to antagonize us to create some revolt so they can become even more brazen in their control of “us”. And the TSA pat downs, and now this, it does make me wonder.
    but to a lesser extreme I see this as Obama and Reid and Pelosi and those other freaking liberals trying to regulate the net, for corporations in bed with them as well as control over content.
    they I’m sure blame the social network for the pounding they took in the elections, their disregard for the people’s interests, rights and demands not only go unnoticed but they thumb their gawd dam noses at us!

  • Richard DeMott

    Just remember what the Democratic party symbol is and multiply it by about 13,000,000,000,000 and you have our government is now. a bunch of jackasses. this is just payback for our votes in November. the democrats are just a bunch of sore losers.

  • MrHand

    About time. Nothing more disgusting than a knock off clown. Love to hear woggs making threats.

  • shadowperson

    I have read a lot of posts that reference “Obama”, “Democrats”, “Republicans”, etc. This problem is not the making of one set of “liberals” or “conservatives”, as it is tyrannical in nature, and, as such, has roots in centralized circles of very powerful people, many of whom are not United States citizens, and, whom could care less about your “freedom” and “liberty”.
    The goal is to seize those systems of information distribution which offer the greatest freedom of association and speech, and, to control the flow of information by attempted intimidation and bullying tactics.
    I believe that ingenuity will trump coercion and deceit with regard to internet censorship, if not initially, in the long run.
    You folks out there in the internet world are some crafty and ingenious architechs of technology and workarounds, and, I am sure that fixes for any meddling will be brought to bear in some rather unique ways. I have faith in my fellow users.

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  • Anonymous

    @893 Icann does not controll .ws extension and many others @904 The underwear bomber was fbi man research it, the fbi allowed him to pass and not go through normal security checks then they busted him to get in the naked body scanners then the groping once people figured out you can opt out

  • Barry Obama

    see i told u i could do it. now for all of those faggot euro trash countries(all of u) be warned ur next

  • Steve

    @1013

    technically ICANN DOES control .ws because those are through IANA which is controlled by ICANN. But I doubt ICANN has anything to do with these seizures anyway.

  • Anonymous

    @928 I’m listening to Slipknot right now lol, @935 it was over 72thousands blogs 404′d and all those people without a home anymore but blogetery owner got the info back minus the fbi planted data about a month later

  • Granger

    If this was all about seizing counterfeit goods, did Obama get snatched up? I mean, he’s pretending to be a president…

  • 1984

    Smile, if you’re in downtown Houston
    The city is installing 250 to 300 cameras at downtown intersections in an effort to prevent and fight terrorism and crime, part of a security initiative sponsored by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
    http://is.gd/hTE99

  • 1984

    @944 its not wrong, sharing is caring, didn’t you ever watch care bears?

  • Kelsi

    I am glad they are doing this. I think they need to continue protecting business owners, artists, and continue making it hard to get into this country. Good job ICE.

  • Anonymous

    @1015 WebSite.ws remains independent: Goal, to be the largest US registry next to Verisign

    On January 7th, 2002 VeriSign, Inc. (NASDAQ: VRSN) announced it will take over control of the .tv Web domain by buying .tv Corp. International for $45 million cash. This comes at the heals of VeriSign’s purchase of .cc in mid December 2001.
    http://www.website.ws

  • Anonymous

    Funny how no one seems to have a problem with the nature of the sites being taken down being heavily related in one way or another to an illegal activity… you can’t deny that theft is illegal. It’s not like they’re taking down sites that have nothing illegal going on. If you’re not breaking the law, you’re not getting hit. I’m not free of guilt either, but I can’t really say I disagree with the effort to prevent theft, which is both morally and legally a no-no. It may be a little sharp-toothed, but it’s hardly unfair. Last time I checked, people who assist in or enable someone to break the law are also guilty of breaking a law. Hell, in some cases, failure to report an act of breaking the law is breaking a law too!

  • Anonymous

    +1021
    WebSite.WS Wages War on Cybersquatting

    As ICANN closed the application period for new general, top-level domain extensions this week, WebSite.ws marked the occasion by officially declaring war on Cybersquatting. The company announced that it would reserve all .ws domain names of Fortune 500 public companies, Fortune 500 private companies, the top 200 Internet companies, as well as all professional sports teams for 90 days, after which time each domain name will be released to the general public…

    .ws is not controlled by icann

  • LUV IT!

    It’s about time all you slimy little criminal aHoles get shut the F down! Good riddance!!

  • Steve

    @1021

    it is independent of Verisign but that’s not the point.

    .ws and all country level extensions are operated by IANA which is still controlled by ICANN.

    the only way around this would be to get an extension that isn’t through ICANN, so you would have to go through alternative DNS root.

  • Anonymous

    They”ll step over the line sometime soon, and one way or another they”ll learn who they are supposed to be working for.

  • Steve

    @1023

    this is directly from website.ws

    “Mike and Alan were aware that in the mid 1990′s, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) assigned each nation a country code. These codes were designed to give each country an address to use for their own Internet needs.”

    Go to IANA website – they are controlled by ICANN.

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  • Zionist Plot

    The Zionists control the U.S. Congress and the main-stream media. The print media, TV/cable, the entertainment industry. Democrats and Republicans fall all over themselves for AIPAC and Bnai Brith crumbs,(PAC money).
    Now the greedy bastards want to CONTROL the world wide web. With their puppets in congress we’re seeing the result.
    Obama appears anti-Israel but he’s pro-Zionist.
    Free speech is slowly being smothered.

  • Ulyesses

    The Internet is an open highway, not owned by anyone, but powerful entities, for example, China, Saudi Arabia and the USA can “control”, and not ask for permission.

    So, allow the “free market” to take control, whereas people will go to search engines not control by GOOGLE, Etc., using IP’s that are “advanced”.

    So when you place “information” on that open highway, prepare to have it stolen, period. And then, move on, or simply do not get involved.

  • Anonymous

    @1025 Is .WS recognized and accreditee by ICANN?.WS is a country code domain so it does not fall under the authority of ICANN. WebSite.WS is the Registry for the .WS domain, and operates under a long term contract with the island of (Western) Samoa http://website.ws/faq/questions_ws.dhtml

  • Anonymous

    so many fucking comments AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • Flaguy

    Do understand when bashing the USA that not everything the US Govt is doing is legal itself and this action is likely to face court challenges where they have done it without proof of any actual crime.

    So don’t tar Americans for what
    the Witch in the DHS is doing.

  • MikeMay777

    It sure smells of s…!

    Homeland Security? Horse manure! We were afraid of over extended authority. Well, it’s here.

    Freedom and liberty have suffered another blow!

  • 9

    Guys! The more decentralized stuff becomes the better!..
    Just like how emule became decentralized (kad)..
    And how torrents became decentralized (DHT, PEX, magnet links)..
    And even that limewire pirate edition became decentralized..

    It would be awesome to have a decentralized DNS.. Or at least one outside the USA (unlike ICANN)..

    It would even be cool if the whole internet could become a giant mesh wireless network and internet would be free, and not rely on ISPs..

    The internet sees stupid crap like this as damage and routes around it!..

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  • Dumb ObamaYouth

    LOL! Most of the morons who use torrent are left wing democrat voting “obama youth”. I’m so glad that these libtards, anticapitalist morons are drinking deep the idiot they supported in the whitehouse. Let this be a lesson to all you college kids: DEMOCRATS ARE CORRUPT!

  • 57girl

    Next ICE will be shutting down websites like “Campaign for Liberty”. I actually 1/2 way expected them to be on this list, except they don’t really sell anything. But they do enlighten people on their rights and they do reveal how various Senators and Congressperson’s vote and on what issues. I’m sure Campaign for Liberty will have good advice on how to handle this area of our Government takeover. Is it just me, or is our Government getting overly aggressive in taking control of our lives in a very brief time? If we want to save our freedoms, we had better wake up and start demanding a return to our Constitution. If we don’t, we may not have a Constitution to protect us for much longer. A little something to think about.

  • jskellington

    Why gives a shit? These all look like malware / scam store domains. If DHS wants to clean house on the internet and take out some of the criminal sludge clogging the tubes, what in the fuck do we care. I doubt they’ll be coming after torrent sites next. Torrent sites are a civil matter.

  • eturnl

    To those guys trying to put all americans in a box, please… do your homework and don’t look so ignorant. MY country was founded on the constitution. Have you ever read it? There is NO other governing document like it in the world. It truly does spell out freedom. Freedom against this sort of tyranny!!! What Bush and Obama have done is illegal and flies in the face of our constitution and this sleeping giant is waking up!
    You may witness some crazy times ahead for us because we are not going to stand for it. conflict is coming like many in this nation have never seen. That’s mainly because mankind refuses to learn from history and the same powers from old that continue to try and take over everything have to be put back in their place but not without sacrifice. That’s why so many generation’s put it off until there is no choice but to stand up and fight. We are near that pass again. A lot of us knew this was coming long ago and we have been preparing and educating folks to wake up and stand up together because when we do we have a massive voice. Hold on to your seats folks, it’s gonna be a wild ride.

  • alanv

    The trend in everything is Obama’s administration believes the federal government should control every aspect of our lives.

  • Levelheaded

    What a bunch of whiny little punks…

    First off, the domain was seized due to reports of counterfeits and piracy, which gives the government the right to take it down for investigation. Not only that, but they may have already investigated all of these sights and have found good reason for removing them.

    Secondly, and obviously as an American, I find it amazing that so many of you “Educated and higher thinking individuals from other, more sophisticated nations” even bother to comment on what it is to be an American citizen. Until you’ve been one, you have no say. Likewise, how the hell would you even know to begin with? You’re petty arguments about my country are obscenely juvenile, at most, and only serve to bring more criticism back upon yourselves.

    Thirdly, thank you to everyone who did manage to give some pertinent information about alternative DNS, portals and Internet design. This information is great and will help me expand my own internet experience, as well as many others, I would assume.

    And last, I see nothing wrong with a country wanting to protect its people. We should ALL be so lucky. Yes, there are problems with our system, with some of our leaders and with some of our general policies, but that goes without saying for any civilization. If that were not the case, we’d all be eternally happy or extinct. Plain and simple. There is no perfect society, so stop trying to believe that you or I live in one. Case in point, I wouldn’t have had to type all of this out if that were not true.

    Since I am aware of the consequences of saying what I think to such a group of people, I will give you a name to flame: Bob. Feel free, as I could care less about what you have to say about me if you try to insult me, but at least you can put a name to your angst.

    Thank you.

  • Jay Savitch

    You all don’t get it do you? This seizure of these sites, is just part of the coming storm. We have the Koreas on the brink, and the US/South carrying out drills in the China Sea. Add to that the Wikileaks disaster, and the US goes down in flames.

  • Josh

    There are ton’s of good free legal music on the internet archive. It’s distributed by tons of netlabels for free.
    http://www.archive.org/details/audio

    Simply, if you want that stuff to stop, stop buying corporate music and stop supporting bands that keep these corporations alive.

  • Jenn

    some of you idiots really don’t have a clue. What part of “lists no copyright works unless someone searches for them and responds just like Google” is an issue? You have the nerve to call us thieves when most all of the downloads are freeware/shareware. A lot of the music is free as well. dee-dee-dee. BTW, did youtubedroid go bye-bye too? I see limewire was served. Never liked them anyway.

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  • Jo Denny

    Those MORONS in the US Government truly do think they rule the world!

    privacy-web.edu.tc

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  • pissed american

    I love how you people blame all Americans for this. I’m an American, and I for one think this ruling and action is bullsh*t. And I definitely don’t appreciate the finger being pointed at every one of us just for being American. How would you feel if you were in my position?

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  • Dewey Du Bose

    Welcome to the United Socialist Republic of America,a.k.a. The United States of America, which was formerly owned by the citizens of the USA, but has sense been taken over by Comrade Hussain 0bama, a.k.a. Berry 0bama.

    He is a Socialist and appointed his own czars to advise him and assist him in the over throw of the Federal Government of The United States of America. He first devalvued the dollar, then he took over the news media, then by Executive Order 0bama revoked the 1st & 2nd Amendments of the US Constition of The United States of America.

    During his 1st year in office, he was responsible for the in crease of unemployed Americans by 3.5%.

    He also used the Teachers union to start the 0bama brain washing of all pre-school and elementry students.

    All books that mentions the “N” word was banned in all schools, libraries and book stories.

    The FCC revoked the operators permit for all Fox stations and their outlets for being subversive to the Government. In addition, all conservative radio was banned as being Racist and in violation of the 0bama Rule of free speech.

    As a result of the 2nd Amendment being revoked by King 0bama, all privately owned weapons have been conficated by the ATFEB/DHS and the 0bama Military for the Peoples Army.

    All internet, mail services and public communication have been suspended under the Presidental Ex Order.

    Does any of this sound unbelievable?

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  • John L

    Thank GOD I was in the 43% who DID NOT vote for Obama and/or his croonies!! Obama is either a complete fool, or is intentionally attempting to have legal Americans protesting in the streets!!
    The USA is so divided now due to Obama and company that the anger continues to esculate…and this is NOT a racial division either!! It will take very little more for the legal American people to be told our voices do not matter before we act! We’ve told them in townhalls, debates, and at the polls and they STILL are not listening! I do NOT advocate violence, but Obama and company are leaving legal Americans little choice….we MUST get their attention somehow, and is appears violence is about the only thing left.
    Obama was, is, and will be no more than a common thug and rogue hell bent on destroying this great nation. The founding fathers forsaw this possibility and we have the second ammendment to protect ourselves from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC!! Apparently, Obama does NOT know the American people at all! We The People will fight tooth and nail to maintain our freedoms!! Perhaps that is what he wants and is not far from getting his wish!!!

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  • jarnkm

    Though there are hundreds of sites that deserve to be shut down, I would well imagine that this has something to do with the “Real Truth” oozing from between the cracks. Wonder what Herr Hitler or Comrade Stalin would have been doing had they had these present abilities??? HomeLand Security, the afterbirth of a planned “9-11″. IF American Apathetic, Complacent, Stupid Citizens don’t wake up and get off there a**e* — we’re gonna bust Hell wide open. And the stupid Christians (and I’m not a stupid one) don’t realize that Jesus isn’t coming back form them … because He’s given up on them being able to follow His Instructions!!!

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  • Anonymous

    Go here
    http://www.votility.com

    Vote no on S.3804!

  • P-Rated

    I’ve discovered that, to save time reading pro-intellectual-property trolls, one may just grep the comment thread for the words “labor” and “incentive”. ;) There are no viable arguments for IP other than those misconceptions of “owning labor” and “incentivizing society”, it seems.

  • lakawak

    I can’t beleive tht torrentfreak is STILL using the “It is just like Google” defense. Shows how clueless they are. Then again, this is the site that GUARANTEED a full acquittal of the Pirate Bay 4..both originally and in the appeal.

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  • patriot mike

    This action appears to be practice for the real game called ‘control the internet’, whereby the goal is that old devil Absolute Power which creeps into society on little kitten feet, only to grow and mutate into the monster known as dictatorship. If you think it can’t happen, then you don’t know history which is replete with remarkably identical templates on how to gain the insatiable and true terror to which no man can ever wield judiciously and benignly.

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  • Jurgen

    Joseph Goebbels would be proud of this kind of control

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  • wikiBuddha

    Alternative to DNS? IP address?

  • FuzzyX

    To make it clear for all readers here what is wrong with domain seizures then let me point it out.

    In every disagreement there are two voices and both need to be heard for a shot at justice to be achieved. So domain seizure should only be done through the court system to keep the government in check.

    To do it this way makes ICE judge, jury and executioner. You have been bad, punishment. You are bad, punishment. You made a mistake, punishment.

    A drumhead trial. Swift, brutal and no appeals. I can bet you as well that once this becomes accepted it would soon be expanded into every type of infringement. Protection of the great US of A through open electronic warfare.

    If you are happy with ICE doing this then let me remind you that the United State, land of the free and promoter of democracy, only ranks as number 34 as most free country on this planet. So it is acts like this that make citizens of 33 other countries more free than you.

    My other concern in all this is that domain names are increasingly becoming valuable property and you would be surprised at how many organizations would desire to seize your domain if they can to profit from it. Valid words and terms with the least number of letters are the most valuable.

    Now if I was President Obama I would send COICA back where it came from with a note reading “not in this country”

  • does not matter

    I am from the USA and I dont agree with this at all. But for all the USA bashing it’s just wrong. We might have some dumb people in the government,but that does not make all people in this country bad. Hell we are the most free country in the world. As for the UN comment…Screw the UN, we dont answer to them, we are a free country, screw world government.

    If you wont to talk about the issues at hand, then we can, but most of you are turning this into bashing the people if the USA

  • James G. Borden

    AMERICAN PATRIOTS’ MOVEMENT OF AMERICA
    PRESS RELEASE
    November 27, 2010

    The American Patriots’ Movement announces that in the best interests of the American people that President Obama immediately resign from the office of the President of the United States of America should he continue to publically refuse to declare America’s military support for Israel when Israel is attacked by Iran’s President Mahmoud.

    The American Patriot’s Movement is demanding the resignation of President Barrack Hussein Obama.

    The American Patriots’ Movement position is that President Obama is a Muslim, and for this reason President Obama is refusing to publically announce America’s support for Israel’s right to exist as a free and independent sovereign nation in the world.

    The American Patriots’ Movement does not want a president in the White House whose religious faith and practices decides American foreign and domestic policies.

    AMERICAN PATRIOTS’ MOVEMENT OF AMERICA
    Headquarters: Hilo, HI. 96720 U.S.A
    Newsletter Editor: James G. Borden
    Tel: 808-938-0973

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  • Guest

    I have one question:

    When did the Department of Homeland Security assume the authority that is delegated to the Department of Justice? Uh, Janet, have you taken a urinalysis lately to see what needs to be siezed from your computers? Hmmm?

  • Uncle Sam

    All of you America bashers can go screw yourselves. That being said, I do apologize for our current leadership, they are a bunch of self-centered, self-important statists. They believe that they know best, not only for America, but for the world. Obama & his boss (George Soros) plan on controlling everything (especially the internet) because they cannot afford the free exchange of ideas. All I can say in defense of my country is that the American people seem to be waking up to the fact that we elected a “one world government, with ME in charge” president. I am hopeful that things will change in two years, unfortunately, a LOT of damage can be done in two years. There are a lot of us fighting to minimize the damage, and again, to the rest of the world, we apologize.

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  • Anonymous

    124: Good job at showing your knowledge of government in America. True, the Bush regime did get the PATRIOT ACT passed. Little do you know, obviously, that Obama extended the Act for 5 years, after stating he would never have voted for the measure in the first place. Same deal with the Bush-era tax cuts; Obama said he would not extend them, and has since changed his mind.
    Aside from that, the real people you should be angry at is the Congressmen and Senators. All the President does is sign the bill into law. He/she does not write the specifics into the bill.

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  • CppThis

    Infringement is supposed to be a civil law issue, what the hell is DHS/ICE doing here? Oh right, about 15 years ago the entertainment industry finally bought enough politicians to let them do whatever they want to. Not that it really matters…the pirates will adapt to whatever the suits throw at them, they’re quite good at it…meanwhile RIAA et al still thinks it’s 1975 and everyone just wants to come home from work and listen to their 8-tracks. And they wonder why their income streams are drying up as the Boomers fade into economic irrelevance. But it simply must be those dirty pirates to blame! If they weren’t downloading lots of stuff for the lulz they’d all totally be standing in line at Sears to buy Ashlee Simpson’s latest asinine bullshit!

    Incidentally, all the clowns bitching about the big evil Americaland would be wise to note two things. One, most of Europe is already doing crap like this, they’re just sneakier about it. And we all know it would be epic headlines if somebody in Africa, S.America or Asia were actually caught *not* doing this sort of thing, at least since 1850. Two, maybe if you guys had taken more of an active role in handling the world’s dirty business in decades past you wouldn’t now be sitting in the cheap seats to the Great Washington Circle Jerk, in which weasels shit on things they don’t understand. Who put the US/UK in charge of policing teh Internetz? You did, when you outsourced all that messy security and power politics in favor of pursuing domestic social experiments. Fighting bullshit wars against assholes around the world doesn’t really have anything to do with Internet regulation…and yet, it has *everything* to do with Internet regulation, if you know what I mean. But not to worry, it looks like the whole system is heading for a cataclysmic depression once China runs out of bailout money, so maybe we can all get a fresh start.

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  • Obama Chuj

    Mates this is a NEW WORLD ORDER rules, USA and Europan Union aren’t truth government, they’re only puppets. The real power is behind curtain. Wake up! Search more info about “New World Order”. Greets!

  • Fuk the NWO

    “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.”
    George Orwell

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  • Downloading now

    Here’s the things I’ve come to find first off.

    1) Obama did NOT create the TSA, DOHS or ICE. These all came about because of the Patriot Act, which was shoved down our throats moreso than the “Obamacare” you Repugs bitch about so much, and that was done in the name of “protecting freedom and liberty.” Bullshit.

    2) I download. There I said it. Do I see it as stealing, yes. Do I justify it? No. I do, however, when I find an album I REALLY like, and once I have the money to afford it, because I’m on unemployment (thanks to NAFTA for that one!) while I’m finishing college, I plan on buying MANY albums I’ve downloaded copies of to try out because I’ve enjoyed them so much. So it’s not all “evil-pirate-slacker-loser” culture. I do believe in getting paid for what you do. That being said I give more in support by going to live shows than buying albums, because the artist gets, MAYBE 50 cents for each album sold…NOW tell me whose ripping off whom?

    3) This country is okay at best. We can’t pull ourselves out of this recession because we got rid of ANY manufacturing that’s worth a damn. Where do all of the chips and computerized components come from that go into your “American” cars? Until we start making cars that can last more than 100,000 miles without needing major repairs, then people will go elsewhere for quality. I drive a Japanese vehicle (Mitsubishi) and my wife has a Korean (Kia) van. While the latter has a subpar record for repairs, the former is impressive. The first major shop visit was for broken shifter linkage. It hasn’t been in since, but it will be going in for a major service here soon, as it should be due for a new timing belt and lots of fluid changes that I can’t quite get to. 120,000 miles and still running hard!

    Which ties into #2, because a lot of the artists as of late don’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things. There are so few acts out there with any modicum of talent that it seems almost pitiful.

    I support an act wholeheartedly when I can do so, with whatever I have available. If there were more bands out there that cared about putting emotion into their art, and caring about how they put it out (downloads of music is a lot closer to carbon neutral than shipping a plastic disc from China to here and then printing it), and caring about how bad THEY are getting screwed by the RIAA. THEN we might have some great music. The only reminders of how awesome music once was is groups like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Megadeth, and even Candlebox.

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  • ProudTeaPartier

    How’s that HOPE and CHANGE coming along for you? What’s that? Not really different from what you had before?

    Try voting Libertarian next time, instead of Old Guard GOP or Dummycrap.

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  • Anonymous

    What the fuck?

  • escapeedrifter

    Get a grip ppl, these are illegal torrents being taken down? You cant just walk into a shop and take what cds u want, you have to pay for them!!!! Stop blaming everyone else for you not having money and do something about it, stop scrounging and then moaning when someone stops you stealing. Its not a free world and never has been, grow up.

  • Xidora

    And this will only continue until you faggots stop stealing and start buying. If you think a song is not worth the price, don’t listen to it. If you think a movie is not worth the price, don’t watch it.

    Common sense is hard to find in the torrent world.

  • chasman

    Hey Godwin,
    All do respects my man; but you are obviously very naive. The destroying of America cannot come all at once; but bit by bit and it is happening right before our eyes. One of the reasons why this is happening is people like you and Whoopi Goldberg have no clue and think; we’ll be just fine. Oh; by the way; there was no internet in Hitler’s day.

  • 3RD party DNS

    Someone raised the interesting point of making your own DNS system. This is not at all hard, all the software is out there for that and free. For the client, it isn’t that hard to change DNS servers in the system configuration. You can also layer it, so that your DNS system sits on top of the existing one, adding to it but you would probably want your own TLDs to avoid collisions.

  • guilty until deemed innocent

    trial?

    why bother

    you have been DEEMED guilty by default

    you haz no rights

  • guilty until deemed innocent

    I am happy with this world bank world domination
    I am happy with this world bank world domination

    repeat until you have been brainwashed

    Rue the day our dollar became whim backed instead of gold backed

    Hope for change is all you’ll have left because his certainly wasn’t a liberty and rights platform

    jack back into your social network and your “smart” trackyou phone

    and take your soma

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  • guilty until deemed innocent

    get your gov’ment cheese: apply to the NSA today

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  • Duuur

    To the retard that said

    “Who do these bastards think they are, Seriously. They’re americans not gods, Let’s get that into their thick ignorant skulls. They can do whatever they want within their borders. The internet is not within those borders.”

    The servers are. Stop acting like the Internet is completely out of any countries jurisdiction. The servers are in the US, they can shut it down. But guessing your Canadian or a eurotrash fag. So its ok, we all know your jealous and just plain retarded.

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  • Really

    How about the honest, hard working people trying to make a living? You PUNKS want everything FREE! Get up off your lazy asses and work & contribute to society. Friggin crooks!

  • Ph23sh

    What would ICE do if we seize their website? Let’s 4chan their servers! There will be enough of us with bot/ghostnets, and a lot of ‘normal’ users too! If we get enough people together, it has to work!

    Away with ICE! Reclaim the sites!
    Seize ICE and Homeland Security!

  • love freedom

    Just who do these yankee butt-lickers think they are? Just what the hell does any of these sites have to do with ‘homeland security’? Nothing of course. Now we know (as if we didn’t already) who runs things in yankee-land…the corporations. So pathetic. They create a digital world and then whine when it doesn’t go their way.

  • Iriasu

    I am not going to say anything about what has been done. I am not going to accuse Americans for what they have and have not done. But all of you saying its OK cause the sites are illegal WAKE UP. Its the powerful that make what is illegal and what is not. Until 3 years ago if a company went bankrupt, THE END. But now with the bank’s they changed the rules so they could continue. They will do the same again and again with everything. Exp Disney lobbying to change their rights over Mikey. Results are copyright for lifetime of the creator and +70 years(for the company). Since when 1 company(movies,research,health care) can decide how to control ideas and information that affect generations to come.

    PS. What is legal in not ethical any more.

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  • Claude Almansi

    Errh, don’t you think the “seizure notice” in this case looks identical to the bogus one you reported about in http://torrentfreak.com/fansubbing-site-fakes-ice-bust-to-protest-media-reporting-100719/ last July? Quote:
    “…“APCM told the news/media that they [owners of Brazil-Series] are criminals and got rich, contribute to drug traffic, and shit. Clearly this is a lie, and probably a way to intimidate other sites,” a Legendas spokesman told TorrentFreak.

    “So we faked that we got taken down to show people that the media publishes everything without knowledge and with wrong and assymetric information, and if one day they try to catch us, people shouldn’t believe in what they will say.”…”

  • Ryan

    Most of these sites are bullshit.. They should be shut down.. OnSmash, tho, should not..

  • dave

    This is a prelude for down the road Gov. take over to confiscate our private Bank Accounts, Properties, Investments Retirement Funds etc,all in the name of Homeland Security or what ever name they will want to label it! Wake up my little pea brained children, the Gov. is on the move to take over your stupid souls!

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  • JustLeaveMeAlone

    They might as well sieze Ebay too, even with the so called “controls” they have in place, tons of conterfit merchandise sells there everyday. Those who do get “caught” simply start over with a new name.

  • yoyo

    The internet is taking us to a One World Government. The ultimate way to deal with these issues will be global. I got my bags packed. Come on Jesus.

  • RonS

    Its nice to know that Homeland Security is doing something. But its hard to grasp what copyright infringement has to do with keeping our country secure. It’s too bad that they’re so busy doing this stuff that they can’t secure our borders from the invading hordes.

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  • Jamie

    Many of these sites that were taken down are controlled by offshore businesses that traffic in counterfeit goods. Mainly China. If you think it’s good business to buy a cheap knock off from a USA legit business think twice. If you think it’s ok to sell or buy pirated software , think twice. Think about the small software developer working their ass off only to have their software hacked or pirated by people who think it all should be free for the taking. Try working and building a business only to have people trying day and night to destroy it. Way to Go USA #1

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  • One Hit Wonder

    I don’t care about internet freedom or governments enforcing new laws. All i want is my royalties for my song. Surely everybody in the world loves my song?

  • savagegardener

    “65 Nov 26, 2010 at 17:24 by Wilson Andrew Bolton

    Shit like this is the reason I became a Socialist (Not communist. Don’tn confuse the 2)”

    Hey Wilson , Have you ever actually read Marx???? In the “Communist Manifesto” ,even he stated that socialism was the same thing as Communism. It was discussed as being a transitory phase into full blown communism.

    I do not pirate music , I acually read books instead, but I know that this is all just a test…a dipping the toe into the waters, if you will… to see the reaction that it does or does not elicit. Political enemies will be next. I am a American and I love what my country used to beand is supposed to be and can be again, when we rid ourselves of the disease of progressivism ( in the republican party and democrats), and the one world order people like George Soros ( AKA -the REAL puppet master)( Did you all know that Soros owned a huge percentage of stock in the company that makes the full body scanners the TSA is using, until like a week ago…HUMMM)

    Yes, The TSA and Homeland security was implemented under Bush, at the great dismay of constitutional conservatives…but funny how no one was fondled at the airports or domains seized until Obama got into office…sounds like there are much larger forces at play here ……they are trying to drive public opinion outside the US even more anti- american, trying to start a spark of violence…to have an excuse for implementing even more authoritarian control.

    Read ” The Comimg Insurrection” and you will see where you are being led , like sheep to the slaughter.
    You think it is only America? No ,No it is not quite that simple. The financial crises and massive debt in Europe and America is hurtling all of us toward the brink of disaster.
    We must unite and arm ourselves with knowledge first, then with the proven principles of non violent resistance of Martin Luther King , Jr. and Ghandi… but at the same time prepare for the worst by buying guns, ammo and food while you still can, be as self sufficient as possible……get ready for a fight.

    We Americans helped you get rid of fascism, communism and tyranny in your countries once, Indeed our young mens blood stains the soil of your lands……we all need each other to help free ourselves from it AGAIN.

    We are in 1930′s Germany right now, in the Weimar republic and unfortunately a Reichstag moment is coming…Soon !!!!

    READ, READ,READ!! “Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it “

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  • Anonymous

    Artists for the lose. Pirates for the win.

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of stealing . This goes back to the days of NAPSTER and Lars from Metallica suing for “illegal down loads” Ever wonder why Computer co’s were never sued for creatring CD / DVD burners,MP3 players And this was before i Tunes.. IN CLOSING 2012 OBAMMY BETTER PRODUCE A VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN AT LEAST 20 STATES TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR RE ELECTION !!NOT A COLB OBAMMY BIRTH CERTIFICATE LIKE ALL OF US NATURAL BORN AMERICANS HAVE .YOU KNOW FOR DRIVERS LICENSE, TO JOIN THE MILITARY ,GET A SS CARD ETC…. THINK ABOUT IT !!!!!

  • whooops

    Thats the point we should change back to plain IP addresses :)

    But there assh*les come with ipv6, which nobody can remember WTF!

  • Randy131

    What happened to the American justice that Obama gives away to Terrorists, their day in a court of law before they’re punished for proven guilt determined by a Jury and regulated by a Judge. Doesn’t these internet sites have at least the same rights as the Terrorists? To bad HLS doesn’t treat the illegal aliens crossing our borders as they’ve done here, maybe it would then be easier to accept if they did the job that was assigned to them instead of ignoring it and getting involved in something they have no mandate or right to do. The government is running amok, including the Judges who gave permission for HLS and ICE to involve themselves into something that is not in their job description. GOD help us all, every branch of our government (Executive, Legislative, and Judicial) are now conspiring against the rights of the American people.

  • J

    Some of you fuck wads are retarded….especially the one with the “Faggots” comment..it’s easy to talk shit behind the internet and computer screen. However if you look, MOST of these websites were pirate sites that screw over retailers and A LOT of American companies. This costs jobs and money. You don’t have absolute freedoms with the Television and it’s been around for over 75years, what makes you think you will get some unregulated freedomland internet?

  • Disheartened American

    I used to be proud of my country, but Over the last several elections I’ve seen ignorant Americans put people in power who espouse no American values. Seizing of a few internet domains is just the tip of the iceberg. I’m hopeful the “Tea Party” movement will begin to fix things, but we need help. Our major media is completely in bed with the new Anti-American politicians. Please help educate the American people to stop us from going down the road we are on, a road which is headed toward tyranny.

  • American Patriot

    Everone please pay attention. This is a good example of the phrase “Elections have Consequences”. The Obama addministration is a Socialist/Marxist regime. Like it or not. Do you not know he has appointed 37 Czars? This is his strong arm. They answer to no one but him, just like the Nazi’s. What did you expect from someone who hates America. Stop being a bunch of HOPEY CHANGEY LEMMINGS. Learn what to read, who to watch, and what to listen to. The first thing any dictator does it take control of the media. And our media is all ready worshipping at his alter. Except FOX. Enough said.

  • tj

    I find it funny the reaction of many people here. I saw the list of sites affected that was provided here and many if not all provided or sold counterfeit or copyrighted products of US Companies. The United States Government has the right and responsibility to protect these companies on US Soil including domain seizing and in conjunction with foreign governments on foreign soil.

  • Mark Medinnus

    Why was pumpobama.cum shut down?

  • cybrsage

    [idiocy]

    I say we let some freedom loving country like Iran or China control DNS for the world.

    Or better yet, the UN. We all know they are never biased towards any totalitarian regimes…

    [/idiocy]

  • Hephaestus

    @248 aka Steve

    “People who create the music and videos we enjoy should still be protected – thats why copyright laws exist”

    You should read the copyright clause. Its not about protecting the artists, its about the advancement of the arts and sciences. Its about a maintaining a healthy public domain. Its about giving the artists a “temporary” short term incentive (monopoly) on his or her works to allow them to continue to create.

    Next subject … If these domain seizures continue it will cause an evolution in software and a splitting of the internet. It wll probably run along the following path.

    1- RSS feed (or other distribution method) of confiscated domains IP addresses that people need to manually add to their hosts file.
    2- automation of the above so there is no need to manually add IPs to the hosts file.

    Enter IP blocking … stage left

    3- encrypted VPN usage will increase.
    4 – some fully encrypted onion routing system will emerge that makes tracking what people do online almost impossible.

    Plus, why hasn’t anyone posted host file entries here of confiscated-seized domains with ip addresses?

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  • John811c

    This sets an unconstitutional precedent contact your representatives in the house and senate and demand they follow the constitution. Prosecute the sites that infringe as given under the law, but not at the expense of the loss of our constitutional rights. 2 articles were violated here. the freedom of speech, and the freedom from illegal search and seizure. The sites that violate the copyright and trademark laws should be prosecuted in the courts.

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  • gangstalking

    Did anyone catch the connection to the new CEO of ICANN and homeland security?

    He use to work for them, then resigned and now he is CEO of ICANN.

    http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1290842656/15#21

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  • Steph

    ICE is becoming the schoolyard bully of the U.S.A. First, they bring charges of “unauthorized use of a government computer” against one of their own who LEGALLY provided information to a gubernatorial candidate in the state of Colorado on illegal aliens who were given a free pass by the outgoing governor, and now they’re going after websites that should technically be the target of the industries that are affected by illegal downloads and counterfeit goods. Frankly, I think the people in charge of ICE at this point in time should be given their walking papers and the whole organization revamped.

  • annoymous

    It’s about the economy, idiots. Global economy. You steal and the rest of us pay higher prices. Not all here steal, I’m sure, but I’m willing to bet a large majority DO download illegal content because 1) it’s easy and 2) you think you’re entitled to the content.

    Where there’s smoke there’s fire, and the majority who protest the closing of a site that has TORRENT in its domain are obviously upset that it affects THEY’RE pocketbook in that they can’t get it for free anymore. Sheesh. It’s about the economy and who receives the money. I want to be paid for my work. You don’t think you’ll like it, fine don’t buy. And don’t give me some crap about you’ll buy if you like the free copy. Why would you do that? You got the first one for free and you feel entitled to the second one. I’m sorry if it’s not allowed in your country, territory or province. Talk to YOUR gov’t or retailers.

    Like a couple of other sane posters, I don’t have an answer, but I’m sick and tired of my work being stolen when I could use the royalties I’ve LOST to pirates to throw it back into my LOCAL economy.

    It’s about the economy, pure and simple.

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  • 627

    Brought to you by the same people that have a long history going all the way back to wanting to ban Audio Cassette Tapes, VCRs, MP3 Players, Google, and Youtube, when first introduced over copyright infringement allegations.

    Let’s all just lower our IQ by 20 points and set the calendar back about 20 years.

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  • Irony

    How could they steal these domains? They aren’t physical property – isn’t that the excuse the pirates use?

  • Your Mom

    They didn’t “steal” the domains. They seized them. There’s a difference.

  • The Man

    Certainly not everyone here, but a great number of people think this is just about torrents. It’s not. It’s a much broader picture. Fortunately Ron Wyden stepped up to the plate and said this (COICA) is a bad idea. Unfortunately though, his comments went unnoticed.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/oregon-senator-vows-block-internet-censorship-bill/

  • Branden

    It’s only a matter of time before we become a communist country controlled by our government and given no rights at all. It’s already beginning.

    Notice that all the sites they’re blocking are torrent sites or deals with music downloading.

    Why can’t they reverse it and use it on things that should be blocked; like child pornography, paedophilia, hate crimes, and so on?

  • Irony

    @1105

    How could they “seize” them? They aren’t physical property and so they must not be causing anyone any problems.

  • Irony

    @1105

    I mean really, how could these people “own” domains, domains are a concept, there are an infinite number of them, by someone taking one it doesn’t stop someone else from taking another, and even the DNS is just information and we all know that anything that is information should be free to anyone that wants to take it without permission, right?

    I’m not saying I’ve never torrented something I shouldn’t have, but I must admit that I find the irony of the comments here incredibly humorous.

  • El D

    Isn’t Homeland security supposed to be protecting the US from terrorists ? I guess this is what they do on the side when they are busy sucking at what they are supposed to be doing.

  • Tom o’Bedlam

    The eagle is a scavenger like the vulture.

  • John G.

    PREFACE: The government, wanting to control speech, jealously doles out airwave bandwidth to broadcasters. When digital over-the-air services became available, the rest of the world embraced it. But the USA was slow to allocate the bandwidth. That’s because the government wanted to delay the adoption of digital, so as to keep as much justification as possible for their severe limits to access of the airwaves. You see, as more over-the-air broadcasts go digital, there is more bandwidth available for new services and less justification for the FCC to be so strict in limiting access to that bandwidth, though there is still some justification.

    Then, enter the Internet. Despite predictions of running out of bandwidth, the Internet has continued to grow and adapt and there appears to be no limit in sight. But viewed from the government’s perspective, the Internet represents a threat to them, since they cannot control it, as they do the airwaves. People can communicate freely. Many encrypt their communications and some even use VPN’s to further secure their communications. The government tried claiming that we would run out of bandwidth, but the Internet has managed to stay well ahead of the curve, on bandwidth.

    What can a power-mad government do?

    In a word, “INTIMIDATE”.

    That’s what this is all about. They want to make some examples of a few, so as to scare others. If people are sufficiently scared of the government’s power, all that the government needs to do is threaten and most people will fall in line.

    Remember how they went after hackers, by illegally imprisoning Kevin Mitnick for years, without any evidence presented at trial. Sure, Kevin was probably guilty of something and had they wanted to, they could have probably got a conviction. But that wasn’t their purpose. Their purpose in imprisoning Mitnick, without trial, was to say to the rest of the hacker community, “Laws? We’re the government. We don’t need no stinking laws.”

    This is clearly what they are doing here. Seize some sites and imprison a few people, without due process and that will send the same message to the Torrent community.

    “Laws? We’re the government. We don’t need no stinking laws.”

  • dfranklin

    “We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack.”
    about 2 hours ago via web
    http://twitter.com/wikileaks

    Interesting….

  • Anonymous

    “We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack.”
    about 2 hours ago via web

    http://twitter.com/wikileaks

    Interesting

  • dfranklin

    “We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack.”
    about 2 hours ago via web

    http://twitter.com/wikileaks

    Interesting

  • Anonymous

    @1092 Nov 28, 2010 at 17:26 by J:

    Reality?

    Because I don’t see any government not even the Chinese being capable of stopping information or data from flowing unless of course you kill all of the peers around the world, now you tell us, which one is more likely to happen, piracy or the end of the internet?

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  • bob from usa

    473 Nov 27, 2010 at 19:50 by Max

    Look the American president is a black liberal dude so deal with it.

    Facilitating a crime is in itself a crime. Only you fan boys who think you have some right to steal the property of others have a problem with these particular sites going down. If/when they take down cnn or msnbc type of sites then we can talk, until then cry me a river…
    ————————————–
    they are talking about taking out MSNBC and Fox as we speak !

    you idiots wont wake up till your in a camp , then it will be to late .

  • me

    @13
    Look up Operation:Paperclip

  • anon

    dont hate obama, oh wait, yeah hate yobama he sucks big donkey balls, but really hate MPAA/RIAA aka MAFIAA. dont let them pull their smoke n mirrors shit. disney is evil. sony is evil. warner brothers is evil. fox is EXTRA evil, seriously, rupert murdock needs his dick lit on fire, fortunately that shambling zombie of a “person” doesnt look like hell be around much longer :) theres more evil out there, basically any large business entity is evil, especially if they have lobbyists. lobbyists are a big “evil” red flag. so dont blame obama bin biden entirely, because thats what disney wants, disney want to maintain their wholesom image to brainwash your children, all the while suing women and children surreptitiously through the MPAA, and shitting on the constitution via lobbyists and political shills

  • Anonymous

    @ Anonymous – “Not only does the site not host or even link to any torrents whatsoever, it actually only returns searches through embedded iframes which display other sites that are not under the control of the Torrent-Finder owner.”

    But it links torrents.

    So, If it links to a link to a torrent it is now illegal? With this logic I guess google should be illegal because it links to a site that links to a torrent. Grow a f*ckin brain man.

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  • on noes

    since the institution of:

    property tax

    there is

    no more

    private property ownership

    don’t believe me?

    stop paying property tax

    what happens?

    you’re “lease” expires and

    your ownership “rights”

    are suspended

    property taken over

    F U L L Y

    all
    your
    bits
    are
    not
    belong
    to
    you

  • anonymous

    to all you saying shit like “good the pirates cant steal anymore, its about time” your showing just how little you know about this stuff. were tech savvy, i can rattle off a list of ways past this, and even if not theres so many legal or legal on my end ways to get free music/movies/shows that i have no reason to buy shit. now ya could say ill have more incentive once theres no way to pirate (which just wont happen because youd have to shut off the internet and even then i believe we already have the wireless infrastructure in place that wed do it orselves, because remember, this all started because we did it ourselves, and well keep doing it ourselves) but the opposite is true. go read the comments on tech blogs. we HATE lobbyists, corporate shills, mafiaa, patent trolls, our government. we really hate them. we boycott them all the time. see, mafiaa declared war on the internerds, and theres a damn good reason anonymous says “we do not forget”, thats because we dont. mafiaa has alienated its consumer base completely. people who dont know about this stuff hate mafiaa. shit, look at news and newspapers. who watches tv/ reads newspapers anymore? its all lies, traditional news is owned by the same “big content”, thats why this isnt on the news. but did we remain ignorant? nope, we abandon the bullshit in droves when we can. we get our news from people we trust, or at least trust the most. so keep driving us away from your product, and blaming us because we have options other than your shitty product. keep stifling innovation and progress jackasses, and know whatll happen? well progress without you. oh wait it already happened and now your throwing a hissy fit because your just dumb and it took you this long to even seize a freaking domain name and frankly DNS is so last year anyway. LOLZ. firefox plug ins to bypass this, programs, independant dns servers, just using IP adresses. you idiots are so far behind us its hilarious. all these comments here? were just trollin ya, weve already worked around you. LOLUMAD?

  • anonymous

    and to all those who say “stop stealing”, you dont think mafiaa steals? LOLZ. mafiaa is the biggest theives of all. theyve stolen our rights, our culture, our “representation”. they have locked down and commoditized our CULTURE. do you not get that? our freaking culture and government and ecosystem and everything else have been stolen and repackaged and sold back to us like we never owned it in the first place. but ya know what? this is OUR culture and OUR world and OUR government (was at least) and we will always fight to tear it back from the claws of evil.

    and another very valid point: get the hell outa our internet if you dont like it. just go away. were just fine here without you. if you dont like the internet just leave. stay, leave, whatever, we dont care, but dont ruin our internet dicks. just dont digitize ur content. ive said this before, publish it analog in a format only playable on locked down DRM’s boxes that self destruct when tampered with. either make ur content easily redistributed, or locked down, who cares. but dont make it ubiquitous and easily replicable and then complain its ubiquitous and easily replicable, because u sound dumb. yes, replicable isnt technically a word, but i used it, and YOUR the idiots mafiaa, its tru, unfortunately by surrounding yourselves with yes men the part of ur brain generally used for self-criticism has atrophied, so u just wont ever “get it”. learned narcisism? is that the medical term? i dunno, but yeah, ur very really brain damaged mafiaa, and it shows every time you talk LOLZ

  • sreams

    Gee… Google searches can lead to copyrighted material. Is Google next?

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  • MD3

    LISTEN, ICANN:

    You silly idiots are going to create a precedent for clueless, lazy judges, and that will ultimately fragment the Internet naming system and, much more worrying, maybe even its routing in the near future.

    BE NEUTRAL! You know pretty well that the complex marvel that is the Internet REQUIRES that its technical structure DOES NOT BE CONTAMINATED BY POLITICAL MATTERS! Internet needs to be AMORAL to work properly, just like the telephone or postal system!

    As John Gilmore said in a TIME magazine article in 1993 (yes, 17 years ago!)

    “The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”

    You are spoiling the decades of hard work and inspiration from the early Internet scientists and engineers, efforts who gave us the Internet AND your jobs!

    So, when the Internet splits in TWO, it will be ALL YOUR DAMN FAULT, ICANN! For playing doggie for the lobbying industry! File sharing is a reality and new business models have to be created Don’t forget that the real online criminals WILL profit from the decentralization process YOU are helping provoke!

    Then next time the US Gov asks you to fetch the bone, you will say:

    “ICANN’T, it’s not one of our domains!”

    Doggie fun will be over in no time.

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  • anonymous

    @1040

    yeah american bashing sounds a lil silly at face value because WE ARE THE BEST COUNTRY EVER. but seriously, someone has to keep the pricks honest. even rome fell brah. so yeah americas the best, but to keep it that way we must hold these fukers feet to the fire every second of every day. because frankly, corporations jobs are to subvert america for profits. and politicians jobs are to make election mo ney. the only people looking out for america and the constitution are US the citizens. yobama would kill us all if it guaranteed his reelection, but it wont, so he dont. so yeah, america IS the best, and yeah we have to fight every second of every day to keep it that way because the “government” and big money are fighting for the opposite every second of every day. they are MUCH more coordinated, but WE have all the resources. you think bank dollars are power? men and guns are power, and last i checked, real people have em all (remember, “your” military is fully composed of us :):):))
    so yes, america bashing is a bit silly at face value, but when you look at all this “bitching” as the check/balance of corporate lobbyists and corrupt politicians, you actually see that this discussion is necessary.
    i used to think the UCLA were trolls, but as i get older i realize groups like ACLU and EFF are the only reason corporate america doesnt burn us as fuel for their death rays and robot army. these people are serious scum at the top, and without reminding them every day of every second that we will throw the bloodiest shit fit ever if they cross that line even once is the ONLY thing keeping america best, and shit, even with all our effort were still getting worse. hopefully the open and dynamic conversation we have here online can start to reverse this trend, the same internet that some of you dont seem to see a problem with our enemies controlling…..

    WAKE UP