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US Government’s ‘Pirate’ Domain Seizures Failed Miserably

The seizure of file-sharing related domain names by the US Government in recent months have stirred up a lot of controversy. Despite heavy critique from various sides, the responsible authorities justified their actions and claimed that it is an effective tool to clamp down on Internet piracy. However, those who take a good look at the end result soon notice that reality paints a different picture.

iceOver the past several months a series of domain name seizures by the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) made headlines across the Internet.

Under the flag of “Operation In Our Sites” the authorities shut down a dozen file-sharing and streaming sites, as well as close to 80 sites selling counterfeit goods. After two months of silence on the domain seizure front, the MPAA has now applauded the US authorities for their “successful” enforcement efforts.

“Operation In Our Sites has not only put illegal sites out of business, but has raised public awareness about this specific form of crime on the Internet. Most importantly, these enforcement efforts have resulted in most of these entities ceasing their illegal activity,” wrote the MPAA two days ago in a letter to the US Government.

In more ways than one, the above statement from the movie studios is a gross twist of reality. For one, the public awareness that was raised mostly concerned the realization that the Government was willing to sacrifice a lot, including first amendment rights, to protect the interests of the entertainment industries. The seizures resulted in heavy critique from journalists, legal experts, senators and most prominently, the public.

It is of course hardly a surprise that the MPAA is misrepresenting the truth in their favor, but adding that the domain seizures “resulted in most of these entities ceasing their illegal activity” goes too far. Let’s take a look at what really happened to the allegedly infringing file-sharing and streaming sites that had their domains seized, starting in reverse chronological order.

It wasn’t hard for the affected sites to continue their operations. Since their servers had not been touched physically it was a simple matter to change a few settings to make the sites available to the public again under a new domain, something achieved in a few minutes. This is exactly what most of the streaming and file-sharing related sites have done.

During the latest round of seizures under the “Operation In Our Sites” flag in February, a total of 10 domain names were targeted, belonging to 6 different sports streaming services. Despite the thousands of dollars in tax payer money that were spend on the enforcement effort, all of the sites were back up in no time under new domains.

As of today, only one of the six is no longer accessible and that is the site of Bryan McCarthy, who was arrested by the feds last month. McCarthy initially continued his Channelsurfing.net website under a new domain at Channelsurf.eu. The day after his arrest this site was still up and running and it is believed that due to the circumstances he took it offline himself after he was bailed out.

So, although all the sites noticed an initial dip in traffic due to the seizures, the actions of the US Government did little to actually stop the streaming services from operating. This was no different to the situation November last year when 82 domain names were seized. Although most of the targets were sites selling counterfeit goods, 4 file-sharing related domains were also seized, including Torrent-Finder.com.

As mentioned previously, the operator of Torrent-Finder immediately announced he would fight the seizure in court and continued operating under the Torrent-Finder.info domain. Of the three other ‘piracy’ related sites that were seized, two – OnSmash and Rapgodfathers – came back on another domain, carrying on where they left off. Again, the seizures appear to have had little effect.

If we look back at the first round of “Operation In Our Sites” seizures in June last year, a similar pattern emerges. Of the 8 movie streaming services that were targeted at least 3 have continued, and it wouldn’t be a big surprise if the smaller sites that didn’t return immediately started over under a new name.

The above clearly illustrates that a domain seizure is not the ultimate anti-piracy tool the authorities and the MPAA claim it is. Most of the piracy related sites simply continued under new domains, undeterred. This raises the question whether the costs involved warrant the mediocre outcome.

Aside from the tens of thousands of dollars in tax money being spent on the enforcement actions, the unconstitutionality of the seizures are also a cost that has to be factored in. And with the seizures failing to achieve the desired outcome, one has to question whether it’s all worth it.

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  • JJlolz

    Well what did they expect? Money can’t buy everything.

    • Asdasd

      It can’t? Bet if they gave enough money to the people that run the sites, they would all give in.

      • Noway

        If they had any brains that’s what the would do. Would work too since only way they would get paid would be to sign an agreement that they would stop upon payment.

        Pay of some of the big ones, problem solved, at least for a few months, then start again.

        haha Never known, might just work. ;)

        • Leito

          Some of them share software because they hate copyright and the government. I doubt all the torrenters would be swayed by bribes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    I wonder what happens if tvshack doesn’t answer that complaint filed against them…?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zack-Nelson/1287355169 Zack Nelson

    We need to raise awareness of this issue. The government shouldn’t seize domains like that without due process.

    • Nojail

      They are not being arrested, thus the due process clause is NOT in effect.

      • Anonymous

        You have the 4th amendment…
        The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures

        We can make good claim that seizing domain names is unreasonable like in the case of Rojadirecta. Spanish domain within the EU previously found not guilty in two court cases but domains still unreasonably seized.

        Ignoring the Spanish law system that the United States recently butt f**ked then if the United States insists on seizing foreign national domains then that “reasonable” point is in allowing foreign nations to seize US domains that violate their local laws.

        India can then seize mcdonalds.com for promoting the slaughter and eating of their holy animal. Bollywood would have a field day on US services that infringe their copyright. Then much more as the law systems in every country rape US domain names.

        Despite all this then oddly the United States believes it reasonable to seize a Spanish domain normally subject to Spanish law.

  • Anonymous

    “Under the flag of “Operation In Our Sites” the authorities shut down a dozen file-sharing and streaming sites”

    They are lucky that Anonymous was busy dealing with middle east dictators otherwise they would have been Ddosed.

    However they might not be so lucky next time particularly since the anonymous cyber army is growing in numbers and weapons. The next Ddos attack will probably involve something more powerful than LOIC.

    • Hikaricore

      I don’t think even Anonymous is brave enough to attack the US DOJ outright.

      • Anonymous

        underestimation is a blatant mistake

      • NeonGen

        Lol why not, how do you know how big anonymous is. They could be one or all (except you). They are Anonymous. :P

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

          On the subject of Anonymous they are currently targetting Sony where it hurts #opsony due to their litigation against geohot.
          Im checking sites, currently confirm http://www.sonypictures.co.uk/ is down

      • Anonymous

        It only takes 1. ;)

    • Hikaricore

      I don’t think even Anonymous is brave enough to attack the US DOJ outright.

    • Hikaricore

      I don’t think even Anonymous is brave enough to attack the US DOJ outright.

    • Legionx

      I honestly can’t stand people who use the whole ‘Anonymous DDoS HERP DEP’ argument for everything when they obviously know fuck all about anything going on.
      Educate more.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you for that educational post.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    after my cat started to knock on the window when she wanted to get back in, I’ve thought that she’s smarter than most who work with politics…

    • I like…

      Penis.

    • I like…

      Penis.

    • Momo

      You are wrong. Politicians are cleverer than your cat. They can use revolving doors.

  • Adasd

    So, when the US gov seizes an american domain, and the site move to a non-US domain, can they do something?

    • hotdog

      no

    • Flying Dutchman

      Well, they could pressure the country in question to take the site offline, like they do with their “special 301″ reports. But that really depends on the country in question and their policicians/laws.
      Most countries don’t take the 301 report seriously anyways, but there is always the danger of the Local Anti-Piracy unit, which might become a pain.

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Unfortunately it seems that Spain, the UK etc and Sweden do – the latter being responsible for creating jailed martyrs out of our local, friendly heroes simply due to pressure from the USA as evidenced in the WikiLeaks cables and covered by TF in a story earlier.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, if it’s registered through an American registrar. They can pressure/demand that they hand over the domain.

      I’s not just about the TLD, where it’s registered seems to be important too.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, if it’s registered through an American registrar. They can pressure/demand that they hand over the domain.

      I’s not just about the TLD, where it’s registered seems to be important too.

  • Anonymous

    @Buglord

    “after my cat started to knock on the window when she wanted to get back in, I’ve thought that she’s smarter than most who work with politics… ”

    I believe that. Cat and dogs have a sense of logic and an ability to read minds that most human are pathetically lacking.

    • Anonymous

      cats dogs have logic and an ability’s that is often overlook cats and dogs. come along way form then to today and even back then they did what they could to survive.

      • NeonGen

        Humans are the only animals who will follow unstable pack leaders – Cecer Millan

        and a personal favourite:
        People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive. – Blaise Pascal

        • Momo

          Both can be attributed to a combination of human nature and failure of education.

        • Ugly American

          And when it comes to the failure of education, you can spell it this way: U.S.A.

        • Momo

          I wouldn’t know. I’m far too busy being concerned with failures of education on my side of the pond.

  • hotdog

    i signed a petition on demandprogress.org to get Bryan McCarthy out of jail.Again it shows how big the Internet is and how small the industry and government think.it seems that they only think when money is involved. I’m not downing all us government!!
    Better yet every countries has some politician that simply can’t think without money in their faces.IT’S SERIOUSLY SHAMEFUL.

  • Haxor

    you americans wasted how much money on this law?

    • Anonymous

      to the average american tax payer this is an epic failure, to the rest of the entire world this is just major lulz

    • Anonymous

      You mean how much was wasted on this illegal abuse of power? God knows… I’m betting at least enough to buy everyone living in poverty in America a steak dinner.

    • hotdog

      We Americans didn’t ask the government took! please rephrase the question!?.

      • Anonymous

        Government = chosen representatives of the people. Take your responsibility in this. You could have been in office yourself. Or at least get someone there that actually represents your interests. There is no dictator or cruel king ruling you. This is what you deserve for not getting off your ass.

        • hotdog

          OH RLLY? Go look up a few post which you must’ve missed.you’re so into wanting to come up with logic.my logic I petition including voting out unfair government.so before we talk or us the reference ” we “.that coica bill that was gonna be passed never made it through because “I” petitioned it.Secondly even if “I” TRY TELLING MY DICTATOR”OBAMA” to stop spending “MY” tax money do you think ”THEY” listen HELL NO!!
          So please try that with “someone” else.

        • hotdog

          Btw i also signed a petition to have obama impeached.If more people actually did we could have gotten rid of him along time ago.Not every American agrees with war nor do i think the u.s. should be fighting other peoples wars.It’s all about profit and the government strives on war.

        • SolidSquid

          Just out of curiosity, impeached on what basis? As far as I was aware impeachment required him to break the law in some way (since the original purpose of impeachment is to prevent the president interfering with legal proceedings against him, not as a punishment in and of itself)

        • Nobody

          He’s guilty of several things that are impeachable over. Violations of 50 USC 33, 18 USC 1918, 18 USC 2381, possibly 18 USC 2385, and a few others. Go look them up, you’ll be surprised just how far off into the weeds he and his administration has gone.

        • hotdog

          we’re should i begin this by far is the worst president in history. and most recently going to fight a war without permission of congress going to the u.n. does that not seem draconian to you.He’s a puppet to the nwo.
          ok have a nice read.
          Articles of Impeachment
          ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
          Resolved, that Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanour’s, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:
          Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanour’s.
          Article I
          In his conduct while President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has:

          * unlawfully exercised the authority of his office to take private property for public use in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees to the People that “private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation,” and without “due process of law”;
          * unlawfully interfered with the management of private companies for the purpose of achieving government control of them, in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution.
          * unlawfully interfered with the economic rights of the People by imposing unreasonable impairments in the fulfilment of their intended contractual obligations, and their ability to enter into such contracts, and attempting to change our fundamental economic system, where there is no significant or legitimate public purpose to do so.

          In doing this, Barack Hussein Obama has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
          Wherefore, Barack Hussein Obama, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honour, trust or profit under the United States.
          Article II
          In his conduct while President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, and to that end, through his subordinates and agents, has:

          * unlawfully engaged in a conspiracy to suppress evidence of the true place of his birth. This obstruction of justice has resulted in a violation of the Constitutional provision that a President of the United States must be a natural born citizen.
          * Unlawfully refused his assent to the Laws of the United States, and exercised false powers of veto that are contrary to Constitution.

          In all of this, Barack Hussein Obama has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
          Wherefore, Barack Hussein Obama, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honour, trust or profit under the United States.

        • Guest

          Petitions are not actually effective for anything though. They don’t replace people who don’t understand the internet and they don’t get rid of hopeless legislation.

          People who get elected are those who get pissed off enough with the approach they’re taking, like many of us here, who get in there and fix it and the RIAA up.

        • hotdog

          Petitions do allot more than you think my friend.But then again we can go marching in the streets ,starting organisations ,peaceful protest etc… etc….
          But then again remember the same government we are up against have swat teams armies of brainwashed uniformed idiots that could care less for civilians.So pretty much petitions are safe and very effective.That’s why we have the first amendment that clearly states.
          “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

        • Anonymous

          The system itself is a failure though. Generally, one of the people standing for election are worth voting for.

          Remember, whoever you vote for, government wins. And if voting really changed anything, do you honestly think they’d let us do it?

  • Tommy Karlsson

    I´m missing one BIG event that did happen!!!
    That is when they by “misstake” shutdown a whole sub domian (or whatever it is called) and 10000+ regualar joes,stores,etc sites was gone.

    Shouldn´t the biggest fail of the domain seizures be in this article?

  • Neotoasty

    Epic Failure.

  • Paul

    You know, eventually governments are going to get really pissed off with the amount of money being wasted trying to tackle this as it’s pointless. There is always going to be a way around whatever they do. Like many have said, it’s a game of cat and mouse.

    The only way this is going to get sorted out is for our governments to tell these big companies to sort it out themselves. In other words, get with the times.

    Can you imagine the tax-payers amount of money they are using? And all the while big profits are still rolling in, why can’t they use that. Because they are greedy, why bother when there are gullible governments to pay for it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4JTWH4ZP6KJHWGFACE3M4AEUQ Getridov Disqus

      “You know, eventually governments are going to get really pissed off with the amount of money being wasted”

      Personally, I don’t think many governments will get pissed off actually. Just like all electronic communications are now monitored in the name of fighting “terrorism”, locking down the interwebs in the name of “protecting” intellectual property is just another excuse to exert more control of something all governments around the world are truly fearful of; the free and open internet.

      It is up to the PEOPLE to get pissed off with the amount of (their) money wasted and force their respective governments to stop funding these types of action. But as I said before most western countries would love to lock down the net and this is just a backdoor method to exert that control.

      • NeonGen

        Amen. :)

      • Anonymous

        Make this man a US senator!

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        For the last CENTURY or so people of voting age in the USA have increasingly refused to go and vote simply because there’s not much point. And that disease inflicting real democracy is not only being ignored by the “bought politicians” in the USA, but it’s infecting other so-called democracies too.

        Some wise person once said, “If voting really mattered, they’d never have given it us in the first place”. I tend to agree – and so do around half the voters in America.

        Oh dear, oh dear.

        • Guest

          There is plenty of point to voting. Even if the parties don’t have exactly what you want on policy, apathetic voting gives them more license to not think about policy. An engaged voting community makes them twice about bad ideas. Politicians talk to the community plenty and by voting for them it reminds them that they need to never stop doing that.

        • Jack Relevant

          If only it actually worked that way. I’m sure everyone who fervently voted for that pious black man, Obama, wanted some hardcore changes in just four years starting with minimum wage and the horrific inflation we see going viral today.

          A politician’s interest in the common people is strictly for appeal; make the masses think they like you and your office is more secure. Obama showed the whole world in 2008 that the principle of ‘empathetic popularity’ works.

          Even if every single person in America voted, the political pulpit would not think twice about policy. ‘Policy’ is a word that to us means ‘rightful process of regulation’ but to them equivocates to “Johnny cracked corn and I don’t care ’cause the master’s gone away!” Policy is a dead word, it is a dead process; there is no such thing as ‘policy’ anymore. These domain seizures are evidence of that fact.

          This is the reason future generations refuse to vote. Because regardless of what we, as a people, do actually need the Government still continues to bull-headedly gallop in the opposite direction. It is self-evident to us by now, that the government and everyone in it doesn’t give a shit. Especially not about us.

          Fuck policy, fuck voting; there’s no fucking point.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BEDKIIDMPONKLLEFQFRCWACEJA allan

    I think these guys are just wasting their time and effort and most specially the budget given to them which is unfortunately from our taxes! How can they claim that they were “successfull” with the operation?

    “We help Americans find jobs, prosperity and explore Asia.”
    For details, visit http://www.pathtoasia.com

  • Blood

    Someone might have thought they can control the internet ,if they have money.

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  • lol

    The MPAA are insane. I’m sure they’ll keep seizing sites, but one day, they’ll seize a site SO BIG it will DESTROY THEM ALL.

    Muahahahahahaha!

    • John9e9

      lolwut?

    • Davio8

      HUH?

      hahah

    • Donotreply

      That will have to be Google.

      I doubt Microsoft would be too worried as a domain seizure would be a good excuse for down time to perform maintenance/server upgrades.

  • John9e9

    Umbrellas, umbrellas, everywhere – in my fingers, in my hair.
    Umbrellas, umbrellas, everywhere – in my arms and in my chair.

    Also, niggers.

  • Lothor The Evil

    I wonder how long it will be before the DOJ and ICE admit the domain seizures had very little effect and start getting court orders to seize the servers associated to the websites and make more arrests.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, they don’t have anything to say in the lands of the sane people. No one here is going to take this kind of crap from them. And this is where the servers are or will be. And soon, the second DNS root will be finished. No one is taking my children’s freedom away. Yes I mad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI

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  • TackySauce

    lol u think they care about the “end result” lol of some small ass sites on the web ,
    a drop in the bucket, this was simply a dry run for the next wave of take downs, they wanted to just see if there would be a public outcry or any other problems, which there wasnt , u took it like u took those naked scanners in the airport…it starts small then the big comes…the big!!

  • Anonymous

    DoJ and ICE literally have nothing better to do than fiddle with domain names? How pathetic. Pirate DNS must come free the people :)

  • Lucky Man

    US government is too “young” or “old” to know better.

  • Lucky Man

    US government is too “young” or “old” to know better.

  • Lucky Man

    US government is too “young” or “old” to know better.

  • Anonymous

    So the MPAA tell us insane lies again. Nothing unusual there.

    Operation In Our Sites has not only put illegal sites out of
    business.

    From my count ICE temporarly put over 64001 LEGAL sites out of business. Kind of a lot more than the unlawful sites they also temporarly put out of business.

    but has raised public awareness about this specific form of crime on the Internet.

    I believe you mean the awareness of the unconstitutional infringement of public rights.

    Most importantly, these enforcement efforts have resulted in most of these entities ceasing their illegal activity.

    That sure is not true. Unless other legal action is taken then all sites just pop back up under a new domain. Pirates, counterfeiter and child porn peddlers back in action.

    The only thing it has highlighted is that the US Government in its abuse of ICANN cannot be trusted with domain control due to this undemocratic abuse of justice and due process.

    We can at least admire the MPAA’s optimism in the face of a total fucking disaster.

    The DHS and ICE had better soon sweep this diplomatic nightmare under the rug and pretend it did not happen before other countries notice and fracture the Internet just to get away from the United States of (domain) Abuse.

  • Whatever

    If i were to guess, all the counterfit goods sites also continued with a new domain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    “From my count ICE temporarly put over 64001 LEGAL sites out of business. Kind of a lot more than the unlawful sites they also temporarly put out of business.”
    It is overwhelmingly clear that the file sharer’s definition of what is legal and the official definition aren’t exactly very similar.

    “I believe you mean the awareness of the unconstitutional infringement of public rights.”
    Sadly, there is nothing in the constitution about your right to free things.

    “That sure is not true. Unless other legal action is taken then all sites just pop back up under a new domain. Pirates, counterfeiter and child porn peddlers back in action.”
    Yeah, because putting an illegal site back into action would great in a a court of law.

    When it comes down to it, these people are only makes things worse for themselves by defying the domain seizures. When most people get taken down by the us government, they realize that they should stay down. Poor fools dont realize what they have done.

    • jack off

      *yawn* zzzzzZZZZ

    • Anonymous

      To be honest one recent story I have read has made me lose total faith in the law system and justice of the United States.

      Despite our differences and beliefs one thing mostly all people can get behind is the United States War against drugs. It seems this War they have seriously lost and little do they care.

      This relates to the banking group Wachovia acquired by Wells Fargo during the 2008 crash. It seems they turned a blind eye to money laundering of Mexican drug money.

      How much money you ask? Well between May 1, 2004 and May 31, 2007 that total was $378.4 BILLION of drugs money which is 1/3rd of Mexico’s gross national product. Laundered into the United States by Wachovia and from there into the Worldwide economy. So now invested on the stock market, into bonds and property. The Mexico Drug Barons own US business and this $378.4bn can sure buy a shit load of companies. Hell it could even buy a country or two.

      Then since they are corrupt it can also buy justice and lives. That would include the 30,000 people killed in Mexico.

      I do honestly believe that had Wachovia existed as an entity that this is so serious that the entire banking chain should be burned to the ground. They even had around 78000 court issue demands for information.

      Instead they had to admit guilt and were fined a tiny 2% of this total. All at the same time the United States gives their new owner Wells Fargo $25 billion of YOUR MONEY during the banking crisis.

      You can rest assured that the United States have recovered very little of this money laundered through fake accounts. They did manage to seize two jet aircraft the drug barons had previously purchased including 2000kg of cocaine from just one trip.

      So there you go one massive banking failure and more money than you would believe which now funds crime galore.

      • BeatriseT

        The government brings drugs into this country us and helps spread it so they can bust you for it. See the Geraldo Riveriera interview where he is standing with US marines protecting the opium fields in Afghanistan and also research CIA aka cocaine import agency. They have been busted tons of times hauling cocaine into the us but nothing happens to them. Also lots of the presidents and higher ups have been cough with their planes packed with cocaine but those stories get covered up.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        Do you have any links to stories?

    • Lothor The Evil

      Go crawl back under your bridge, troll.

    • jack.ss

      Hi Pirate Jack
      Looks like facebook lost your page. Here is some help to a fellow pirate o/

      http://img84.imageshack.us/i/jackmurdockericboehmfac.jpg/

    • None

      Operation Sock Puppet?

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      wtf are you prattling on about now you fuckwit troll?

      Just get yourself back into the murky depths of that delightfully damp and bug-ridden cave you crawled from – and don’t come back out until you’ve downloaded Avatar and decided which side you want to be on.

  • Getrightmusic.com

    From what I have read, the majority of the site owners who had been seized have not had any information or legal actions given to them. The government took their property without warning and still has not explained it or allowed for a proper trial to take place. Ridiculous! The government is straight robbing people and we sit back and watch and are thankful it wasn’t us. But if we keep watching and not acting it may just be us one day…

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Well said my friend – I and all the folks at TF are with you, including the vast majority of readers but especially those who comment sensibly.

      Don’t lose heart or hope – we stand firm, we win. The politics is wrong simply because some tech invention has changed the market-place.

      We’ve seen it all before – and it always results in a compromise where we filesharers and the artists continue to get ripped-off whilst the “content industry” wakes from it’s money-smothered, drunk or drug-fulled slumber to wink at some politicians and say, OK we can still make lotsa cash – let them have their filesharing, but you wannna snort at this?

  • Anon

    Article is incorrect, .bz domain is a FAKE.

    • Anonymous

      I suspect that should have been .biz

  • Anonymous

    lol, you must admit, its pretty funny when you think about it lol.

    http://www.anon-tools.no.tc

  • Foff

    Cat is out of the bag. There is no way to stop piracy short of shutting down the web. What the MPAA and RIAA don’t seem to get is www stands for world wide. You can’t control the world. I think Hitler tried that and failed. The more attention they draw to piracy the bigger it will get. If they would stfu and leave us alone most average joes would not even know where to begin to find stuff to download. But they have to advertise it to the whole world.

    • Anonymous

      I would not class it as unenforceable yet.

      Their greatest hope would come in the form of IPv6 which is now just starting to come into force now that the IPv4 address range is exhausted. This means that every computer based device in the future can be directly connected to the Net which would allow them to trace who the infringing computer is owned by.

      Governments only need people to register their computer ownership. ISPs can handle that one on first connect.

      Then it just comes down to the computer owner being forced to identify the person who was using it at the time. Fine issued and penalty points on your Internet connection.

      Determinded pirates will of course find a way around it but the average public maybe not. Once bitten, twice shy.

      • Beyonce

        nah wouldn’t do much. People pirated on www way before they even knew how to hide themselves and many/most still do. Lets see, over 100 million file sharerers are going to stop? I think not and either way there will be more that start to replace any that stop.

  • KoolBigKat

    Stupid US government just made it impossible for them to control the content on these sites. Can you imagine what happens if these sites now go to some server in a country with no extradition laws, no child protection laws, etc, and start serving up torrent links to child porngraphy, terrorist-related DIYs and abhorrent teachings?

    • Amy

      Well besides what they want you to think, child pornography is legal in most countries. Just google it any you will find out. Personally I think the “keep it off the internet does a disservice to the people being molested because if they want to catch people who hurt kids, then how are they supposed to if they can’t see it? I don’t think consencial kp is bad but like hurting them is. If they regulated it then they could go after the beaters and etc and the concensial lovers would be left alone. Much better policy than “we don’t see it”.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        This brings up a lot of issues…

        First, age of consent. Second, if the children are manipulated, then what? While I might agree that regulation may be better than an outright ban, there’s a lot of moral issues that can muddle views on cp.

  • KoolBigKat

    Stupid US government just made it impossible for them to control the content on these sites. Can you imagine what happens if these sites now go to some server in a country with no extradition laws, no child protection laws, etc, and start serving up torrent links to child porngraphy, terrorist-related DIYs and abhorrent teachings?

  • ADave

    Tvshack.bz is not the real original TVshack. I don’t think they are comming back – anyone know anymore info?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      They went through 2 takedowns. Currently, the community is rebuilding yet again.

  • Bob227

    Channelsurfing.net was the best. I’m bummed it down.

  • duke1980

    Channelsurfing.net is gone. I feel bad for the admin.

  • Cujo

    I would have to double check it but I think Google is posting ip’s of affected sites ,, so in other words a domain is seized and if you Google the domain name ,, Google finds it along with it’s ip ,, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Google also will post the new domain if and when the affected sites make the change to their new domain

    hmmmm ,, interesting ,, I’ll have to double check it when I get a chance

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  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    I hereby nominate the following to be the signature tune of the USA’s so-called yet mis-named Dep’t of “Justice” lol, and specifically targeted on their maladjusted, bastard child called I.C.E. (ie the Immigration and Customs Enforcement).

    I dunno how to embed a vid – but it’s here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Miue_EEbp7k

    or maybe this helps,

    Either way, please note the name of the tune and enjoy the dance – I love it (honestly)!!! Especially when you imagine the rhythm of those fascist jackboots stomping down your broadband line to tread all over your delicate rights, freedoms and face too.

  • Stayfed

    Seizing the domains would be like an operation to cleanup the drug problem. Have the Postal Office change the address of all of the crack houses. Then no one can find them anymore. Problem Solved

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  • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.kratz Jordan Kratz

    Our tax money at work helping out the assholes RIAA & MPAA.my frkken money used for this type of sleeze.
    RIAA & MPAA suck a dog’s ass.

  • RabbleRouser

    In addition to mentioning the basic failure of these domain seizures to accomplish their goals, what about the 84,000 domains that were shut down “by mistake”?

    http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-shuts-down-84000-websites-by-mistake-110216/

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  • Anonymous

    Steal whatever and whenever you can from these bastards. (the mpaa riaa)

    Neither represents the artists or creators in any capacity and the only goal is protecting profit, which judging the drivel put out by both at this point is surprising either industry does.

    On another note, does the govt think it’s so hard for these sites to register another domain with .net or .biz and resume service oversees? It’ll take them all of 20 minutes to register the new domain, and half a day tops to get a new hosting service and get the site running. Idiots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nphyx Justen ? Robertson

    All this really does is push people off US registrars and ultimately away from the domain name system. Not a deterrent in the least to pirates, but it sure is a lot of power for the real criminals to shut down dissent. Not that I’m worried about that either, as it’s just going to push dissenters into the darknets and other alternate systems too (and they’re welcome to come along, need to increase the hacker:pedophile ratio in here ffs).

    • Pedobear

      yes share what you have, fuck the government who say pedofilia can’t be shared. Pedobear approves

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  • ?nonymous

    It’s a bit stupid to think, that the U.S. has an enormous debt, and economic problems.
    Yet the politicians can only think about “Money, money Money, and MORE MONEY”
    Money for themselves.

    It’s so obvious that all recent ‘internet laws’ are the work of the lobbyist music industry.
    Laws for the highest bidder i guess.

    Honestly i think the effort, and financial resources of the US government officials that handle online law, could be better focused catching identity thieves, or online predators.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/phil.culmer Phil Culmer

    “Aside from the tens of thousands of dollars in tax money being spent on the enforcement actions, the unconstitutionality of the seizures are also a cost that has to be factored in. ”

    As far as the MPAA, RIAA, etc are concerned, this is a benefit, not a cost – establish enough precedent, and inconvenient things like justice and rights just disappear.

  • Anonymous

    > This raises the question whether the costs involved
    > warrant the mediocre outcome.

    No, but that hasn’t stopped the Drug War or Iraq War and so on.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      $70 billion on the Drug War and counting. Yes, that’s one year.

  • StevO

    You really think that they will give up? Hell no. It will boil down to the simple law of: “you pissed us off, your disconnected” . It will happen. They will regulate the internet just like they regulate drivers liscenses. Sure people still drive without them, but they have to be all sneaky and worried all the time.

  • StevO

    Oh and another thing. Im sick of everyone blaming americans over this. The internet is ALL OUR HOME. But where was your stupid asses when they changed the law in your country? YOu say americans have the power to stop it, but YOU couldnt even stop them in your country either. Americans didnt create this. Its not our fault that 99.999% of good movies come from Hollywood, And other countrys movies arent worth fighting about. I havent EVER seen a top 10 movie that didnt come from hollywood. OK maybe im exaggerating a bit there, ok probably not. But you people are starting to piss me off.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Oldboy was a great Korean movie.

      Battle Royale was from Japan.

      Future Cops is a spoof on Street Fighter.

      It’s not the job of the world to tell you the good movies. It’s your job to find them.

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  • mystrdat

    As usual, excellent article. Now it would be fair to see some average guy demonstrations to further solidify the absolute tax-payer cash waste that just happened.

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