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Anti-Piracy Chief Patents “Pay Up or Disconnect” Scheme

One of the top executives of the US-based anti-piracy outfit Digital Rights Corp has submitted a patent application that promises to turn piracy into profit. The patent describes a system where Internet users caught downloading will receive a notice from their Internet provider along with a request to pay a small fee to the affected copyright holder. Pirates who refuse to pay risk the ultimate punishment of being disconnected from the Internet.

There are many ways copyright holders approach the “online piracy” problem. Some copyright holders prefer to do it through innovation, others prefer educational messages, warnings or even lawsuits. Another group is aiming for lots of small cash settlements.

Digital Rights Corp is one of the companies that facilitates these settlement demands. The company scours BitTorrent networks for people who download titles owned by the copyright holders they work with, and then approaches these alleged pirates via their Internet providers.

The company usually asks for $10 or $20 per infringed title, and conceals these demands in DMCA notices so they can bypass the courts. Under the DMCA Internet providers are obliged to forward copyright infringement notices to their customers, so Digital Rights Corp can contact the alleged pirates without knowing who they are.

A clever system, and one that’s at the base of a new patent filed by Digital Right Corp’s CTO Robert Steele.

The patent starts with a general description of the monitoring and notification process.

“The present disclosure provides a system, a method, and a computer program that may mine a data stream of infringement data over a period of time, process the mined data to find correlations in the data, and identify specific sets of IP addresses and ports associated with acts of copyright infringement,” it reads.

Once the IP-addresses are obtained the account holder’s ISP is contacted, as can be seen in the figure below.


Identifying infringers and notifying ISPs

The above process is similar those already employed by a wide variety of anti-piracy outfits, and also identical to the technology that will be used for the upcoming “six-strikes” system in the U.S. However, the patent goes further than just tracking down alleged copyright infringers. It also allows for settlement demands.

“The system, method, and computer program may be further configured to provide a settlement offer that may be accepted to resolve obligations incurred as a result of an identified act of copyright infringement.”

The patent further describes how Internet providers could respond to repeated infringements, provided they’re willing to participate. This includes redirecting people’s Internet connection to a settlement landing page, or disconnecting the account altogether.

“The actions may include, e.g., sending a subsequent infringement notice, redirecting the infringer to a redirect webpage, or suspending service to the infringer,” the patent explains, again illustrated with a nice flow-chart.


Steps after ISP is first notified

While Digital Rights Corp is not the first to use this kind of system, they are the first to apply for a patent this specific. Although we’re not sure of their intentions should the application be granted, this could spell trouble for many competing anti-piracy groups.

Put differently, could this be a case of copyright trolls trying to troll copyright trolls?

Also, since the first part of the patent more or less describes how the technology behind the six-strikes scheme works, it could potentially cause trouble for the system the MPAA, RIAA and ISPs have worked on for so long.

For the public, even those who are frequent copyright infringers, not much will change. Digital Rights Corp and others are already sending out these settlement requests, but Internet providers will never voluntarily agree to disconnect their subscribers.

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  • Ricardo

    Patented pay up or disconnect???? Maybe a god thing, as nobody will be able to use this. No ISP wil be permited to disconnect their users as they will be infringing a patented “technology”. LOL….

    • djnforce9

      Haha. That would be an awesome embarrassment if they made it so that it could not possibly be enforced and even better; because it’s patented, no other troll could attempt it without fear of “patent infringement”. That will give the MAFIAA a taste of their own medicine!

  • Glommy

    O M G, I know who do that style thing… but cant say the Word

    • Sense

      Why did you say it if you can’t speak of it…

      • highboi

        why did u ask if he cant speak of it

        • Whynot

          Who are you to question the who of the why of the what?

        • Highboi

          Huh

    • http://www.facebook.com/casey.henderson.140 Casey Henderson

      gnam gnam style. op.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zak-Kirkpatrick/22906930 Zak Kirkpatrick

    o.O

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Johnny-Cash/100002427462340 Johnny Cash

    If they disconnect me, I’m just going to do as I used to and take up the first open wi-fi signal. If that doesn’t work, I will gladly hack into someones connection, but I will never cooperate with the treat of extortion.

    • Sense

      It’s fine when you read your email. You might me “invisible” to the wifi owner. What if you download a lot on their internet? Your fun will last one month when they find out the huge bill.

      • anon

        in a world when we pay per mb

        • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

          Some people do.
          Some have limits on there monthly usage, and are charged per MB or GB after that. So that is this world.

        • GenericUserName

          I’ve had Internet service in three countries, and I have never had to pay according to usage except for 3G smartphone use.

        • http://twitter.com/VictoriaEva3 VictoriaEva

          just as Florence said I’m stunned that some people able to make $6816 in one month on the inetwork.

        • http://twitter.com/VictoriaEva3 VictoriaEva

          …..goo.gl/g46Tx (Click on Home)

      • Danny

        At that point you switch to another.

        I can see around 10 WiFi “secured” networks here.

    • djnforce9

      With some luck, this will NEVER get implemented anywhere (I mean ISP’s cannot benefit from this MAFIAA garbage in any possible way). If it does go through though, hopefully you’ll have another ISP in your area that doesn’t buy into this utter nonsense.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Johnny-Cash/100002427462340 Johnny Cash

        Seriously. Tekksavvy has turned their back on us while supposedly acting as saviors for the internet. I don’t know which ISP to trust. Right now I’m using Distributel and at least they don’t lie about not helping us out!

  • anonymous

    God almighty! when will this ridiculousness end??

  • http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation

    As long as the fee is small, I REALLY hope this comes into effect, not that it actually will. Encrypted internet anyone? This is a way to get everyone to get a VPN :D

  • HammyPirate8

    wow, i think a 2 year old could have drawn that diagram

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      I thought it was a Electrical Schematic at first glance. Lol.

    • Twatt

      Patents are an artform – I advise anyone to read a few of them if you ever have a couple of hours spare.

      They are just pure bullshit and incapable of calling a spade a spade – I read one which took three pages to explain how to trace round something and then scan it in.

  • Anon

    Pay a small fee? Why small? Thieves should be punished. A large fee would be much more appropriate.

    • MegaAssBlaster

      “Thieves should be punished. A large fee would be much more appropriate.”

      yeh agreed, MAFIAA owes us trillions of dollars now pay up!!

      • Judge_dreds

        “Thieves should be punished. A large fee would be much more appropriate.”

        I think a small fee and jail time does nicely. It’s the way we’ve punished thieves for years.

    • http://twitter.com/viciouzex Joseph Fernandez

      what if you download a movie that you already purchased on blu-ray. Would it be fair to be punished?

      • MPAA

        Of course it would, you thief. You are stealing money right out of my pocket unless you pay for it. You paid for a blu-ray. You have to pay for every format you want have. Your friends also have to pay if they want to come to your house and watch it. No free public performance.

        • aidanjt

          Not sure if trolling or serious…

        • RIAA

          If we catch you driving down the road with your car stereo too loud we will sue you for public performance.

          Likewise if you are a bystander to someone else’s car radio in audible distance.

        • aidanjt

          Ah, thank you for clarifying. :D

        • Who

          “public performance” don’t apply to the WEB. and yes I am well aware that there are public internet access spots. “public performance” is not defined by the MPAA/RIAA. it is defined and governed by the US government and any other governments that may have similar laws and its referred to by the US government as FAIR USE.

          IF you turn your music up to loud that’s not public performance, that called disturbing the peace.

        • Whynot

          Tell that to the PRS in the UK. If you so much as sing a copyrighted work in a pubic place it is considered an unlawful performance unless you have a performance licence or agree to pay royalties (if you’re caught). And to stream music on the internet you still need a PRS licence if you’re in the UK, even if that music is freely distributable Creative Commons, Copyleft or Public Domain (it’s a different licence, but you still have to pay money to the Performing Rights Society).

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091021/1134566619.shtml

        • Who

          YEP as I have stated before this would IS FUCKED UP!

        • Whynot

          Oh that was unmistakable sarcasm ;)

        • aidanjt

          Unfortunately MAFIAA officials, astroturfers, and apologists actually say brain damaged shit like this and mean it, so it isn’t always apparent…

        • Who

          well well well, we got a GREEDY prick here.
          no actually YOU are the one stealing/breaking laws.

        • chip

          This is just awesome. I love it :)

        • http://thepiratebay.se/user/SCSA420 StoneCold420

          F U C K YOU AND THE MPAA . I DARE YOUR PUNK ASS TO F U C K WITH ME YOU F U C K I N G PUNK ASS BITCHES. I WILL CONTINUE TO UPLOAD STUFF ON THE INTERNET AND THE ONLY WAY TO STOP ME IS TO KILL ME BITCHES.

      • Anon

        If you download anything including Torrentfreak articles you will be punished whether or not it is fair and i will laugh. :)

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          ….Whether or not it’s fair?

          …..You’ve got to be kidding….

          By that standard you’d have no complaint if Five Harry Midgets wearing Ron Jeremy Sweatshirts had their unfair way with you in a dark corner of Macy’s Mall…….

          Remember, it’s only our collective commitment to fairness and mercy that makes us keep Virginal Trolls among the living…..

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Is this the “Baghdad Bob”-Anon or the guy trying to troll him?

          It’s kinda hard to tell given the lack of difference btween the content and the context of your respective messages.

          Then again, trying to caricature a clown IS hard to begin with…

    • Guest

      Are we upset Anon?

    • Sense

      I think a lot of people in the torrentfreak community defined that creating a copy for free is not being a thief. I agree with you that thieve might be punished more IMO. Your argument is useless here because creating a copy by sharing is not the same than taking “the copy” of someone.

      • Who

        well the problem is copyright theft vs stealing. copyright theft means to steal the copyrighted works and say that you are the creator. copyright infringement is also implying the same thing. but for some reason Anon can’t seam to understand this.

        • Shogunreaper

          Its not theft, its infringement, there is a difference.

        • Who

          did you even read my post? copyright theft = copyright infringement. stealing some ones copyrighted works and calming to be the works creator is infringing on copyrights.
          it is theft but not in the way Anon is stating it is. just “making a copy of a copyrighted works is not theft” but it seams that the US and a lot of others have this way back words.

        • Shogunreaper

          Its still called copyright infringement.

        • Who

          I am well aware that’s its infringement but TELL that to the or dicks. ya know the ones that think that making a copy is copyright infringement. *cough* Anon *cough*

        • Whynot

          Making a copy IS copyright infringement, but it’s NOT theft.

          By its very definition copyright is the right to determine how and by whom copies are made, thus limiting lawful copying.

          However, an infringement is NOT theft, because as you pointed out previously theft would mean rights to determine the limits of copying had been removed from the original rightsholder.

          Obviously when a copy is made by anyone the rightsholder still has control of their rights to determine whether that copy is lawful or not so their copyright has not been ‘stolen’.

          Ergo, copying is only ever copyright infringement and never ever copyright theft. You don’t need to be a lawyer to understand this fundamentally simple and self-explanatory piece of law. Still, the ‘Anon’ bot ignores what the law really says in order to repeat lies on behalf of its paymasters.

        • Who

          yep and you need to look in to copyright law. because in the US law it DON’T say that making a copy of ANY related works is infringement. I have linked to this before were this is stated but you people STILL insist that it don’t say what it says. look it up!! EVEN the MPAA has this on there site. but then again the MPAA don’t do as they teach.LOL

        • Who

          Copyright infringement is the unauthorized use of works under copyright
          its ONLY theft IF you claim ownership of the related works.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          Oh! He understands this……

      • Pelham123

        “I think a lot of people in the torrentfreak community defined that creating a copy for free is not being a thief”

        The dictionary defined it that way. Words mean what they mean. But TF readers have a low tolerance for people who are ignorant about technology so we get teased by them sometimes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lamarcus-Small/100002749425210 Lamarcus Small

      Anon, being retarded, as usual.

      • Who

        Anons always retarded. I pointed out were in the US law it says on what basis you can claim copyright infringement and he said that it was debatable LOL.

        • Anon

          I agree with you!

        • Who

          ok so you just agreed that everything about copyright law is 100% debatable.

        • Wallace

          “ok so you just agreed that everything about copyright law is 100% debatable.”

          You can debate anything. You can also make up random stuff and tack on a bunch of creepy revenge fantasies, as Anon does on Torrent Freak.

        • Who

          yep you got that right.

    • hrururu

      Come here facist pig! My dick will punish YOU!

  • Sense

    It might be a good thing actually. You can sue me with my patented scheme. This would mean that we can patent anything to protect yourself. I seem too easy..

  • Guest

    Isn’t this just the way that the copyright trolls are doing with there pay up else scheme

  • SOPA_NOPA

    Could you guys please not conflate patent applications with patents? The rest of the media is terrible about this as it is, but as long as you guys are fighting the good fight against copyright trolls, please please please prefer headlines like “Anti-piracy Chief Attempts to Patent Copyright Trolling” or “Anti-Piracy Chief Applies For Patent On Copyright Trolling.”

    The sensationalist tech blogs like Gizmodo and Engadget willfully make this mistake all day, every day, and the “real” news is hardly any better. Even so, there is quite a difference between patenting something and submitting a patent application, even if really stupid applications are liable to be granted these days.

    • Danny

      Ture that.

      Its funny though, “Patented Extortion”.

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  • Guest

    “Also, since the first part of the patent more or less describes how the
    technology behind the six-strikes scheme works, it could potentially
    cause trouble for the system the MPAA, RIAA and ISPs have worked on for
    so long.”

    I wonder how long it will be before the MPAA buys the copyright/patent for this or buys out the company that patented this so that they can implement this themselves. This is nothing more the same as the copyright trolls are doing with there threatening pay up or else letters.

  • John Space

    Things will change the day a copyright troll asks someone for money and that someone turns out to be related to the mob…

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      Too bad the mob has largely gone legit in the US. They do some under-the-table kickbacks and whatnot but the old shit is dying because people these days are pussies. The second the feds come busting in someone’s door they start spouting their mouths to stay out of prison.

      • chronoss

        im gonna bet most of your mpaa and riaa IS THE REAL MOB
        lol just look at all the tattooed mother fuckers in hollywood these days dont tell me is a nice persons convention.

        • PenzancePeer

          Yeah, just dont call em Bugs, it’s Benny, Got It ! :)

    • SOPA_NOPA

      It’s probably already happened. 250,000+ people subject to extortion and blackmail, consider rates of incarceration, mental illness, etc. and you can easily imagine the trolls have stumbled upon more than a few people who make really bad enemies. But some people have long memories and others won’t do anything unless the opportunity presents itself. Needless to say it might suck to be a former copyright troll in a nursing home in a couple decades where a caretaker recognizes your name and remembers the misery you put their grandmother through, or you apply for a job or loan that is unexpectedly denied because someone on the other end knew who you were and didn’t even say anything, just made sure to be in the way. And who knows how many politicians, government employees and law enforcement officers and their families have been harassed? Over time, all these people will make sure their respective agencies are tipped off to any possibly-actionable behavior.

      These guys live in the moment and think going after random people makes them anonymous in turn, but there is no way they will fail to be haunted by this and live the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lamarcus-Small/100002749425210 Lamarcus Small

    Fastest way for an ISP to go out of business. Implement this.

  • http://twitter.com/happyizpunjai happy

    I think they”Hollywood” should start using different alternative (like building a site that revenue comes from ads) to receive money like how megaupload or tpb makes money through ads or premium account. Then there will be no reason for pirates sites should exist. Only then Hollywood would gain most amount of money that other people would get and creating easy methods of distribution with maximum amount of profit through the online world.

    • utuxia

      all they have to do is embrace bit torrent. and the problems will go away. Paid trackers operated by publishers.

  • Former Insider

    Sounds like their patent attorneys are having them on. How can any patent office grant this?

    • MadAsASnake

      Patent office checks nothing – to have value they must win in court. Patenting an extortion scam is kinda funny.

  • Who

    “ultimate punishment of being disconnected from the Internet”
    OOoooooooooo IM SO SCARED!!!!!

    what you think the internet is the only way to share? LOL

    • Anonymous

      All my work depends on the Internet…. Without it, my entire industry wouldn’t even exist.

      • Who

        um…Y did you even reply to my post?
        yes I am aware that most people now require the internet for there business. but with that said they might see you as competition and could care less if they put you out of business. but again I don’t see the logic in replying to my post.

        • Whynot

          Could care less? Hmmm…

          http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw

        • Who

          if you are in FEAR of loosing your internet they YOU need to take the necessary ACTION to prevent IT!

        • Whynot

          Yes, I hate it when my internet gets loose.

        • chip

          grammar nazi

        • chip

          flippin americans.

          although, to be fair, aluminium is a bit hard to stomach.

  • Guest

    Pirates who refuse to pay risk the ultimate punishment of being disconnected from the Internet.

    Good thing the UN agreed that it’s a violation of human rights to disconnect someone for any reason. no wonder the USA wanted to tell them to shove it.

    • Garfon

      Yes but many countries have a way of circumventing their own check and balances (especially the US). This creates a ripe environment for corruption which is why most things are the way they are.

  • X

    Let them try to disconnect me, i will disconnect their heads from their necks.

    • Wallace

      Mr. Guillotine’s copyright attorneys would like a word with you.

      • chronoss

        theres a patent for that

    • Andrew Lee

      ROFL!

  • Guess

    Sounds something like a drug leader would say. Pay up or your gone.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Lame

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  • midimaer78@mac.com

    Capitalism ftw!!!

  • MadAsASnake

    I would think this will fail the “prior art” test, at the very least.

  • BenJeremy

    So… why would ISPs follow this scheme, now that this idiot is seeking to patent it? Does it make any sense for them EVER to disconnect a user because of a copyright violation, if they have to pay a fee to this jerk for the “right” to do so?

    Far easier for the ISPs to ignore the copyright violators now, and save the money they’d otherwise have to pay this fool.

    Did I mention this guy is a douchebag?

  • icec0ld

    Like any ISP is going to willingly disconnect a paying user.

    A great way to lose customers is to fuck over the ones that use and pay for your services. What subscribers fall the moment people realize their ISP will willingly throw them to the wolves.

  • chronoss

    ya know i don’t advocate actual violence but i think its time we start killing these genetic aberrations …they are doing nothing for society other then become parasites…
    i bet this kind of person would also picket a funeral if there was money to be made

  • IDIOCRACY

    Just read older thread tpb.pirateparty.co.uk seems off-line (used various proxies too)

    Seems they buckled under the pressure or just technical problems?(Ddos?)

  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    I’m going to patent prostitution.

    —–
    (Employee, known as a “ho”™, receives money from customer)

    |

    v

    (Ho offers sexual favors)

    |

    v

    (She gives her employer all of the money and I give her the cut I think she deserves, or meth)

    Any violation of this, especially in my neighborhood will be met with the penalty of being knifed, shot, and having his hoes beat down.
    —-

    I think this could be a successful industry.

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      You diagram was easier to understand then theirs, lol.

      • ScrewEwe2

        “You diagram was easier to understand then theirs, lol.” That’s no shit. Electrical schematics are easier to make sense out of than the diagrams shown in the article.

  • CL

    This “Patent” should be rejected based on the vague wording: “Infringer” which magically escalates the account holder who’s account may have been used to “infringe” on a civil matter to that of being guilty by association. Infringing account would have been closer to the mark.

  • Bla

    I think the mafia has prior art on this.

  • Anonymous

    I have no problems with this patent. I hope these innovative and creative souls go on to redeem great monetary rewards for their incredible feat of intellectual prowess, that will surely revolutionize the enforcement of copyright.

    By making copyright trolls pay for the right to troll.

  • ScytheNoire

    Since when is it legal to patent extortion?
    Only in America.

  • Guest

    They want to break the Internet so the world goes backwards.

    Fascism never gets old.

    • guest

      Considering the amount of harm and bad stuff the internet does, it’s prolly not a bad thing.

      • chronoss

        cause having disabled people sit quietly staring at walls is healthy right….guest is an idiot

        • Derek

          No doubt, we’re all going to be old asses one day and we’ll REALLY appreciate the interwebs then.

      • Guest

        Fascism probably isn’t s a bad thing?

      • Liam JH

        People do harm – not the internet

  • Garfron

    I could smell this long ago coming.

  • Lars Larson

    Hello interweebz
    Curious…

    So, liekHows u gonna determine if an IP isn’t just a Printer, or a person?

    For example the Holiday Gas Station’s Wi-Fi was reset after a power outage and, hilariously I might add, hasn’t been password protected now for going on half a year… Its probably I’m assuming Centrylink, Quest, or something, I dunno.

    Also, curious, how would one handle a VPN that comes back Antarctica? We gonna sue the Ukraine, the legal owner of the Ice Station? Or, the US? or Great Britan? etc etc?

    I mean, lulz, to the commenter who said “Watch this fail… when the ISP starts loosing money” YUP.

    Aggregate Demand. Pretty much watch as the old farts who thought this up keel over and die from their high sodium diets… watch this fail epiclly.

    How they already are going to control everything you do is one word: CAPPED INTERNET

    I’m stuck in modern hell. I live in an area where they TOOK AWAY unlimited DSL in favor of much more profitable “4G”, which is slower and capped and about x3 times more expensive.

    Thats why I have to do my heavy lifting at coffee shops, the GAS STATION, or the Library, etc… yup a real creeper.

    Watch… notice the cap is getting smaller and smaller?

    StopTheCap!com! check that shizzzzz out boys and girls!

  • Guest2

    This is such a stupid idea. What ISP would implement this, and why is this “procedure” even patented? Sounds like it’s just another money making scheme for the patent holder, who is a copyright troll.

  • mark steele

    I kept expecting to see (???) followed by (Profit) somewhere in that flowchart….

  • Glenn

    If this happens i will gladly take the ban and seek a new provider. This shit is illegal, it’s called extortion. I think it’s time to form a new communications company created by the peer to peer community. If isp’s keep doing shit against their customers, we will eventually leave them, they will not remain the only one offering internet. Isps need to stop acting as police of the internet and remember to protect my privacy.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      These ISPs knew that customers would try to leave; but, knew also that their monopoly control of national markets would just mean churned accounts among themselves. Perhaps, you’re one of the lucky ones with an alternative. Most of us can only move from one rapist to the next.

      Our worst risk is that, although today they want a system that doesn’t draw too much customer fire, they’re working on whatever will effectively let them bring a body into court for the full treatment; and, when they get that (if they can get that), they’ll break out the screws and ratchets, and scale their system into a universal net.

      Worse, the results of such a system (assuming successful trials), would give them a foothold into the Appellate Courts, where things currently look dim for them; and, perhaps, ultimately, into the legislatures, from which they have currently been banished (That was the message behind the reversals of PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA, and TPP: Don’t come back here asking for waivers on the Constitutional Rights of American citizens).

      Currently, in America their support is purely administrative.

      If that changes, were in a completely different universe.

      I feel your comment that you might gladly take the ISP ban; yet, if what was at your door was an official from the DOJ with a list of two thousand instances of Copyright infringement, and a technologically demonstrable claim of personal identification (does NOT exist now), would you take that?

      My point is that we must fight harder now to protect the future.

  • Foff

    ha ha he ho har! What a joke this isn’t even a business process this completely not patentable. This guy is fucking off his rocker. All you mafiaa troll fuckers are crazy. Piracy won’t stop unless you thoroughly break the internet which you won’t do. Face the brave new world assholes you cannot protect your shit on the the internet so find a way to live with it and stop trying to extort everyone in the whole goddamn world.

  • Andrew Lee

    $10 – $20 This seems like a more accurate fine for piracy minus the threat of killing someones connection.

    Now here is the problem with that! Mother fucking due process because it is our American birthright! You cannot just go around playing judge,jury, and executioner with an IP address.

  • Bananas

    What a Joke

  • Lethn

    In the words of Minsc: EVIL! MEET SWORD! SWORD MEET EVIL!

  • damien

    The comments section has now become unreadable!

    • Whynot

      Use the new scratch n sniff feature. The awful stench of bitterness lets you detect trolls from 3 posts away.

  • Anonka

    i have better idea.lets cut the hand of everyone who is downloading .after all its HANDS ! that ar clicking the mouse buttons !

    • Whynot

      Speak for yourself – I have dextrous feet!

      • chip

        dextrose feet? isn’t that from corn or something? Or do you mean dexterous?

  • Kennyl

    If anyone else had do the exact same thing it had been called mafia methods and been illegal, you can compare this by sending mail to folk that has porn surfed and say, “You may have seen child porn and we have monitor your connection, pleas pay 250 USD or take the risk of getting punished with up to 8 years imprisonment”.

  • Anon

    Wow it sounds like they are using stealth, a disrespect for the status quo and the internet to begin to dismantle a system you’ve worked to get into place. Imagine that.

    • Whynot

      I’m trying, but all I can imagine is a potato on a stick miming to Biffy Clyro, whoever that is.

  • Tomash

    Or they could just offer unlimited access to their content for $10 or $20 a month…

    • Anyone

      I’d still not pay that
      they lost me as a customer with their actions

      I’d rather those $10-20 go towards a VPN than the MAFIAA

  • Syborg

    But Blu ray’s on eBay are cheaper to buy AND why should any ISP listen to these Nazi’s. They can shut down twitter and I’ll just go fishing.

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      They listen because ISPs also provide movies and television which is almost entirely owned by GUESS WHO.

  • Wormlore

    So they get everything that has been atempted, ignoring “prior art”, then they make a single big patent that says “we do this, and you can add any other trick that has been thought up until now as an option”.
    Wow, now I’m curious to see this company trying to sue the majors and their hounds.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      That is so the right question……

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Today, Copyright Holders have an impossible challenge.

    They simply can not face the risk.

    Of course, I don’t mean just any risk. It makes sense that they’re
    perfectly happy and confidant managing that ordinary business risk
    arising from within their business model.

    After all, what risks come from within that business model are pretty comfortable risks: They hire Creative Artists at a competitive advantage. Digital technology allows the resulting Artistic work-product to be replicated, distributed and warehoused at near Zero cost; and, Copyright Law mandates any member of the human race who seeks access to that Intellectual “Property” to pay the Copyright Holder’s premium or “do without”.

    Sweet tit indeed!!

    Since all human wealth arises at inception from the single factor of production that is the Human Artistic and Spiritual Imagination; and, expresses itself in Matter as every single paper clip, cave drawing, toilet seat, chisel, bust of Hermes, penny nail, Madonna, cheeseburger with pickles to go, aqueduct, steel I-beam, silicon wafer, tri-head screw, McMansion, I-pod, arrowhead, Dum Dum bullet, and political manifesto, ever produced; and, since that same churning creativity of the Human Spirit and Intellect shall forever be the first Prime Factor of Production for any and all human wealth yet to be imagined and yet to be produced; inevitably, the business model of legislatively protected Copyright Holders would make them risk-less owners and distributors of all Human Wealth.

    Sweet tit indeed!!

    Yet, it is precisely this that creates those exogenous risks (risks arising outside of the business model), that Copyright Holders have neither explained, predicted, or controlled; and, which now threaten their existence.

    Why?

    Because, if you accept the proffer that the legislatively mandated privileges of Monopoly Copyright Holders are incompatible with Democratic political Process, Constitutional Rights and Civil liberties, then you understand the increasing repression by Copyright Holders; and, the increasing presence of civic democratic forces (Journalistic, Artistic, entrepreneurial) in the Judiciaries and Legislatures, in a completely new light:

    First: We witness Civic forces effectively challenging the legitimacy of Copyright Holders in the legislatures and Judiciaries. Napster, Audio-Galaxy, Limewire, and e-donkey were early expressions of this; but, years later, the Pirate’s Bay and Mega-upload, DeJazz1, and an infinity of private trackers, are yet more powerful and more articulate expressions of this challenge.

    Second: We witness that the context of political debate is NOT the same smoke filled club of powerful insiders that gave away the Public Domain in Intellectual Property so long ago. PIPA,SOPA,CISPA, ACTA, and TPP, are clear evidence that powerful civil forces have stormed into the legislatures to impose an agenda vastly different from what Copyright Holders wanted. The humiliating completeness of those defeats was public warning to Copyright Holders and, the legacy politicians that might protect them, that they could NOT return to the legislatures for different or additional protection of their legacy privileges based on their legacy legitimacy.

    Third: We witness that Copyright Holders are at a point where they can NOT afford to be present with their claims in the Appellate Courts or in the Legislatures. Supreme Court Justices will not take kindly to their impositions on Privacy and Due process; to their private use of Police power; to their presumptions of the primacy of private profit over public civil rights. The prosecution of Mega-Upload is the clearest example of this; where, even in the lower courts, their overreaching claims are proven public failures.

    Fourth: We witness Copyright Holder’s recourse to private Corporate self help. Why doesn’t Six Strikes have any backing in written Law? Because the American people refused to grant that backing in the Legislatures. They instead raised impossible questions that Corporate Copyright Holders found impossible to answer; and, very likely, will NEVER be able to answer in a public forum. That is why the Six Strikes MOU is a legally naked act of collusion in restraint of trade; and, will be scoured in the Appellate Courts for the exact same absent justifications that Copyright Holders were unable to provide for PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA, and TPP.

    Fifth: We witness the results of Copyright Holder’s efforts to repress File Sharers in defence of copyrights. Each new repression sends more enraged citizens to the Courts and Legislatures. Each new effort to apply technology against File Sharers brings more rapidly evolving P2P technology. The increasing repression only produces angrier, more focused citizens: Watch Six Strikes and you will witness what happens when five arrogant ISPs stick a hot poker firmly up the ass of the sleeping national lion.

    Conclusion: As Citizens, we too have an impossible challenge. We too have risks that we can not face. After all, our defensible arguments for a humane future are all that protects us. Thus armed, we most face those risks, where failure is total and forever.

    Yet, although those defensible arguments might not be much, they are eminently defensible; and, because they ARE eminently defensible, they might be all that we need against these privileged and overreaching adversaries who are the bastard orphans of any rightful justification for their privileges.

    • chip

      tl;dr.

      Learn to summarize, sir.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        Working on that. In the meantime, learn to think!……

    • Johnnywhatshisname

      Excellent, Thumbs!

  • Fantastic

    Its a snake that is attempting to not only eat itself but eat the other self eating snakes surrounding it.

  • Varun DM

    Hope this stupid patent gets trashed!!!!

  • utuxia

    anonymous seedbox paid with bitcoin, they will never find you. I’m curious how many false positives will go out, and also this might result in the next Nigerian Prince scams — only with MAFIAA content infrignment emails (PAY UP NOW OR RISK LAW SUIT)– which would actually be a good thing, get everyone to ignore and mark these emails as spam.

  • Criminals@large

    Somebody post the personal information from ALL people at MPAA and RIAA please

    • utuxia

      where’s Anonymous when you need them.

  • DarkTigris

    “request to pay a small fee to the affected copyright holder”. So they know they are charging way too much for movies, music, book and other shit. Interesting.

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  • downunder

    Its not so FUNNY how we read these headlines for a good 10 years now and they dont go after them they untouchable

    How African fraudsters now make £80million a year ripping off women
    (and a few men) so desperate for love they’ll believe anything

    To me the law is pointless.. unless your a rich fooker who can influence the gov and law makers with cash and power

    why real crimes and scammers rake in millions and they spend more time going after copyright breakers and hassling average people while the real crims like this get away with it all

    why is west africa and lagos and ghana able to get away with it all these years.. COME on USA INVADE a real corrupt country for once :)

    also sad that some females are so stupid and dont run as soon as africa is mentioned by these guys LOL but thats another story

    How African fraudsters now make £80million a year ripping off women
    (and a few men) so desperate for love they’ll believe anything

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354155/African-fraudsters-make-80m-year-ripping-women-desperate-love.html

    • Liam JH

      Men are the biggest victims of these scams not women.

  • Midas

    Fine, just disconnect me. I’ll fucking sue you.

  • http://twitter.com/majestic_whine majestic whine

    prior art?

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  • That_Anonymous_Coward

    With the name Steele how does he expect to be taken seriously?

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      i am going to swear now bollocks. there,

  • Akira

    These fuckers deserve to be stripped of all there pride fuck hollywood and these companies all they do is rip off the mainstream make your shit cheaper and maybe people would buy it honestly america what the fuck have you come to and pay for your downloading habits gimme a break if this did go into play all the ISPS would lose there customers so yeah people expect this to Fail horribly hollywood is a money hungry slut that like to fuck everyone lets kill these money whores and download whatever the fuck we please fuck all this copyright this and that im a musician and i dont wanna be owned by a record label know why? cuzz they would make me wear shit and act like shit i dont like so yeah just expect annonymous to fuck em over

  • Zorg

    So you guys still think movies, games & music should be free ?
    How people are supposed to earn money with this ?

    • Who

      this isn’t about a particular works that should be given to the masses for free, this is about protecting a users online privacy and property rights. copyright and property rights are to completely different things. I am actually so sick of trying to explain this and show others what the law says to all the people that don’t bother to read the laws involved *not to mention the stupid others that THINK they already do know just because some group decides to make a change to the definition of a word and claim is practical* and the definition of words. IF you actually looked in to what it says and look @ what they are attempting to do, that you would understand Y this violates other laws and WILL hurt your freedom @ some point. also Y the MPAA/RIAA needs to be stopped for taking for granted the privilege of government protection for there related works and costumers rights, cause eventually they will NOT have any and then what will they do? go out of business that.s what. I actually looked over @ MPAA.org and read some crap they put up there about what the law does say and they also added to it, but the point is what they teach and what they do according to law are to different things. you all need to have a closer look @ what they do that defies law and you WILL be shocked.

      but please folks start educating your self’s.I am done.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      You don’t already know? That probably means you’ve had to sweet a tit making money!! …….

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      You obviously don’t get it.

      As long as there’s anyone using bittorrent to download/upload EVERY damn citizen of the world has to put up with being spied upon, living in fear of the neighbors kid with a ‘tude trolling them into an unwarrantred lawsuit/extortion scam, and meanwhile ensuring less service and more intrusion on private communication made by third parties and ISP’s.

      Right now we’re at a pass where one of two things go away. Either we blow a fat massive hole in current copyright law…or we do the same to three or four fundamental civil liberties.

      Those are the stakes. Option number two is unacceptable, so if copyright law insists on that option, we blow a big fat hole through copyright law. Or marginalize it until it dies.

  • watfordjc

    Cool… so if the patent is granted I can buy Digital Rights Group if I win the Euromillions and apply for patents worldwide.

    I quite like the idea of being able to sue any copyright trolls that send me settlement letters “or I’ll face disconnection” for patent infringement. Hmmm… if they don’t even threaten disconnection I could probably waste their time getting them to prove in court how their systems are different from my patent.

    If Apple can (theoretically) get a billion dollars for only a small part of a competitor’s product using their patents… how much could I get from a company whose business model is a 100% copy of my patent?

    “Dear Mr Copyright Troll, yes I am aware how much you can be awarded per copyright infringement. Did you know I can be awarded unlimited damages for your patent infringement?

    “I am about to take you to court where not only will I request access to all your financial records, but the names and addresses of all people whom constructed your systems, offered to construct your systems, turned on your systems, and used your systems so I can also take them to court for patent infringement.

    “If you pay me £100 million within the next 14 days you will avoid costly and lengthy litigation. £100 million will grant you a 12 month license to use my invention on the condition you will pay me 99.7% of your gross revenue and give me 51% of your company stock.

    “Yours faithfully, Patent Troll

    “Nota Bene: Patent Troll > Copyright Troll”

  • rummel

    The Pirate Party should patent all the schemes so that copyright trolls cannot use them without paying them (high) fees

  • JordanKratz

    Fuck these Assholes hard !
    Disconnect me and I go to Court and Sue.
    Better yet go ahead and try to make War against the Internet.I so wish to see all of MAFIAA & their Stooges Hacked with Dirty Laundry Aired to Public.

  • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

    this jekyll and hyde thing i don’t know. the government are telling us to get online, cause there are not enough of us on the internet, and then we get connected, we’re going to cut you off, enough already, i’m going to just throw it all up in the air and let them sort it out, then i’ll die, and then come back as an utter bars***tard and f**uck them all up the arse, just like they are doing to me

  • twat

    Patent system is a joke. I’m going to patent taking a shit.. anyone who even farts will have to pay uo

    • ScrewEwe2

      I think I’ll patent and copyright Piss and Twats. You can pay me now for the use of the name “twat”, or face higher damges later, if you continue to be a “twat”.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      I think Sony and EMI have “prior art” on “taking a dump in public”.

      Other than that, good call.

  • dickus

    i think i’ll just pay up and disconnect from the internet and all you ISPs can go to hell … so can the internet .. it’s dying anyways, iike i’m gonna keep it just for email, lol, at 45 a month …. see how you like not having any customers … and i’ll hide the damn computer so you’ll never find it … jackboots are coming folks

  • http://www.facebook.com/fredrikkarlsson1 Fredrik Karlsson

    fig 210 – Unauthorized access to meta data/computer system?

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  • Guest

    Can we all just remember the ISP doesn’t own the internet, they simply provide the connection to the WAN cloud, and that the internet is simply a bunch of independent privately owned networks interconnected to form one large massive network. The ISP has no real leverage short of selling you cheap discounted internet, which as it stands now, tends to be limited trial runs of a few months to a year.

  • joexxx

    You can’t patent extortion. There is plenty of prior art.
    This application will get shut down.

  • tetridae

    Great that they are patenting it and thus making public the inner workings of it. Will make it so much easier to hack it. :}

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  • Erin

    I just got several of these for songs I had downloaded ages ago…should I pay the $20/per song fine or just not do anything? Will they pursue me further if I do nothing?

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  • GenericUserName

    I recently received said notice. Purporting to represent a third party and offering to settle a legal claim in the name of that third party sounds like the practice of law to me. I think what I will do is send a letter to my state bar as well as the State Bar of California, where Digital Rights is based complaining that they are engaging in the unauthorized practice of law. In law, a good offense is the best defense.

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