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AT&T Starts Six-Strikes Anti-Piracy Plan Next Month, Will Block Websites

A set of leaked internal AT&T training documents obtained by TorrentFreak reveal that the Internet provider will start sending out anti-piracy warning notices to its subscribers on November 28. Customers whose accounts are repeatedly flagged for alleged copyright infringements will have their access to frequently visited websites blocked, until they complete an online copyright course. It’s expected that most other participating ISPs will start their versions of the anti-piracy plan on the same date.

Last year the MPAA and RIAA teamed up with five major Internet providers in the United States to launch the Center for Copyright Information (CCI).

The parties agreed on a system through which subscribers are warned that their copyright infringements are unacceptable. After several warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures to punish the alleged infringers.

Thus far the participating Internet providers have refused to comment to the press on any of the details including the launch date. But, leaked internal AT&T training documents obtained by TorrentFreak provide a unique insight into the controversial plan.

The documents inform AT&T staff about the upcoming changes, beginning with the following overview.

“In an effort to assist content owners with combating on-line piracy, AT&T will be sending alert e-mails to customers who are identified as having been downloading copyrighted content without authorization from the copyright owner.”

“The reports are made by the content owners and are of IP-addresses that are associated with copyright infringing activities. AT&T will not share any personally identifiable information about its customers with content owners until authorized by the customer or required to do so by law.”

The papers further reveal the launch date of the copyright alerts system as November 28. A source connected to the CCI previously confirmed to TorrentFreak that all providers were planning to start on the same date, which means that Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon are expected to have a simultaneous launch.

The training documents also give insight into the measures AT&T will take to punish those who receive a 5th and 6th alert.

When repeated infringers try to access certain websites they will be redirected to an educational page. To lift the blockade, AT&T will require these customers to complete an “online education tutorial on copyright”.

The training does not give any information on what sites will be blocked temporarily, but it’s mentioned that “access to many of the most frequently visited websites is restricted”. What the copyright education tutorial entails remains a mystery.


AT&T personnel training

Under the agreement Internet providers were free to choose how to punish repeated infringers. The above confirms that AT&T decided to implement a targeted website blockade combined with a copyright course, as opposed to other repressive measures such as throttling the connection speeds of subscribers.

While there are worse punishments one can think of, AT&T worryingly notes that the alerts may eventually result in a lawsuit.

“After the fifth alert, the content owner may pursue legal action against the customer, and may seek a court order requiring AT&T to turn over personal information to assist the litigation,” AT&T explains.

As we reported previously, under the copyright alert system Internet providers have to inform copyright holders about which IP-addresses are repeatedly flagged. The MPAA and RIAA can then use this information to ask the court for a subpoena, so they can obtain the personal details of the account holder.

While there’s no concrete indication that repeated infringers will be taken to court, the clause would not have been included in the agreement if the copyright holders aren’t considering it.

Meanwhile, TorrentFreak is getting reports from VPN and proxy providers who have seen a significant uptick in new subscribers from the US. Presumably, a large percentage of these new subscribers are signing in anticipation of the “six strikes” scheme.

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  • Vpnbook

    vpnbook.com FTW

    • yello

      haha, glad my isp doesn’t give a C$(p about copyright ;)

      • Eddie M

        may i ask which isp do you have so i can swich

        • yello

          tpg if your interested ;)

        • Anon

          Don’t try to beat the system… BREAK IT !

        • 6 of the Best. Yes please

          Quote: “Under the agreement Internet providers were free to choose how to punish repeated infringers.”

          I hope the internet providers punish the infringers by getting them spanked by the pornstar the infringer has downloaded the most.

        • AussieGuy

          As in like TPG Australia?

        • yello

          yep, aussie tpg. working fine

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        It will…..wait for the knock on the door….

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      A VPN or seedbox does indeed seem to be the way forward for fellow filesharers in the People’s Fascist Republic of America (formerly known as the proud & democratic Nation of the USA).

      Best of luck you guys. We’ll give you as much assistance as Humanly possible to defeat these anti-democratic, anti-freedom laws.

      Cash and mega-money does NOT equal democracy.

      • JordanKratz

        I have now put myself on bolehVPN and so far it works good.

      • Anon

        “Cash and mega-money does NOT equal democracy.”

        True. But if you want your analog goods respected in our real life, you’d best get used to respecting other’s digital property in digital formats.

        A change of format never implied you were free to disrespect the property rights and disrespect the law. Use seedboxes and vpns until they take those away, too, then you can REALLY be an outlaw. So COOL you are.
        It’s fun watching them paint you into a legal/surveillance corner, while you don’t learn…

        • Goat Troll

          BLA BLA BLA … FUCK OFF AND DIE TROLL !!!

          Troll, Troll, Troll, You Goat
          Gently Down The Stream
          Mearily, Mearily, Mearily, Mearily
          Just a Goat Troll Dream

        • Pelham123

          “But if you want your analog goods respected in our real life, you’d best get used to respecting other’s digital property in digital formats. ”

          Exactly. Which is why rightsholders will learn to keep their greasy paws off my digital property, which I will share if I choose.

        • The_Strawbear

          The problem is we’re all being painted into that corner of being watched and politicians and police have unprecedented powers of access to people’s private lives and it keeps coming.

          Fine, you’ll say, people who are innocent have nothing to fear, which most of the time is true, until some paranoid nutjob like Nixon gets into the White House again or some idiot Senator gets all McCarthy about being UnAmerican, which given the start of the Far Right in the USA is more than a chilling likelihood.

          Then once you’re picked up and jailed for having visited torrentfreak, that well known bastion of pirates, you’ll be cursing those snooping laws and looking to the liberal left for help.

        • Andrew Lee

          ROFL Wrong place to be spewing your bullshit propaganda. Go hit the RIAA up they’ll listen to you for sure and to top it off they’ll even believe you. If you’re already at the RIAA then I suggest you go over to the MPAA.

        • Careful wat u Wish

          It will be fun reading your emails and spying on you too.
          Wait until we track you via gps, turn your cam on remotely, to see what you see.

          The shit you want now….. will fucking haunt you.

          Respect something that can be copied endlessly at NO COST.

          For the cost of……..?

        • Guest

          Analog goods are completely different from virtual, unfinitely copyable digital “property”, you fucking moron.

          A change of format freed us all to share goods with eachother at a loss to nobody.

        • Anon

          “Liberal left” for help?

          Ha……

        • Oooogygooogy

          At last someone with a fucking brain and sense of what is right on this scum site.

        • Might be Stupid

          Maybe I’m being naive, but what exactly is the counter-argument to the gentleman above who is a proponent of property rights? It seems to me — and again, please correct me if I’m wrong — that people like the Goat Troll here just want to be able to steal things that don’t belong to them. What gives you the right to freely download content that is explicitly being sold for a profit?

          Guest, above me, seems to believe that since technology allows for the free duplication of goods, that no one should ever have to pay for digitized content again. I’m just confused about how such people believe that million dollar movies, books, and albums (million = cost to produce/advertise) could possibly exist if no one actually paid for them.

          Again, I apologize if I’m just being somewhat naive here. Guest, would you care to follow up your eloquent comment with a reasoned argument?

        • BJonesTF

          Well, for a start, it’s not a property right, it’s a time-limited government granted assignable monopoly right, not property.
          Second, it is not now, nor has it ever been, ‘theft’ or ‘stealing’. For it to be theft, the RIGHT must be taken, not infringed. In other words, there must be conversion.

          The general arguments supporting the antipiracy actions, generally rely on deliberately misinterpreting the law to make an emotive argument. Mainly because they don’t have a factual or legal one.
          How’s that?

        • debilero

          @ Maybe Stupid.

          Lets turn it around. What right does a company have to restrict access on something that is out there in abundance. If you should pay for oxygen you wouldn’t like it so why pay for bits & bytes that can be copied a gazillion times.

          With every new invention companies put pressure on your government to restrict and censor your freedom more and more. And we get the same crappy laws over here because politicians are dumb. You once were called the land of the free (well except for the slaves you owned and the Indians) but now your all slaves to the dollar. A silly imaginary worthless piece of paper that with a few buttonpushes gets devaluated by your almighty FED who will gladly do this so your debt will decrease.

          Why not look further and wonder why we should pay for food housing and toilets? George Bush was right on his statement that every person in America should be able to own a house. To bad he forgot to add “for free”. Anywho enough ranting for now. Every person with a brain knows how retarded your government is.

        • Might be Stupid

          @debilero: Surely, sir, you cannot be equating necessecities like food, water, and even shelter to complete luxury items like books, movies, and music. According to your logic, since money is now mostly digital and not tied to any physical medium like gold, it’s perfectly okay to churn out dollars as fast as your CPU can duplicate them.

          If we take your argument to its logical extreme, absolutely no one needs to pay for the latest Fast and Furious DVD — not a single person — since it’s so trivial to duplicate. So where exactly does the money come from to pay the hundreds of people who spent weeks/months creating that movie? If you have a job, I assume that you get paid for it. Why don’t people who create digital goods also deserve to earn a living?

          Bottom line: you are a thief who is trying to justify his actions by grasping at very flimsy logical straws. How do I know? I used to BE you. Then I grew up. :P

        • Might be Stupid

          @BJonesTF: So are you saying that piracy is legal? That there are no laws against downloading content which is always sold, and never given away? Even if that is the case — which is highly doubtful — I’d suggest that while you may not be “stealing” the content that you download, the fact that you withhold payment for commercial goods means that you are guilty of theft through your complacency.

          If I go to the hospital and then refuse to pay my bill, I’ve not “stolen” anything either — under your definition of theft — but I’m certainly guilty of a crime.

          Like @debilero, you seem to think it’s okay that hardworking people don’t get paid. Legal or not, it’s an immoral way to live. But fuck it, right, anything to keep your conscious clear and the free content flowing.

        • Jabari Henderson-Brown

          @mightbestupid Actually, if you don’t pay your hospital bill, you are stealing many things the time of doctors, nurses, and administrators, drugs, electricity, food. All of these are things that can’t be replaced for free, unlike a song I illegally download. My downloading a song is not actually taking anything from anyone, particularly if it wasn’t a song I wouldn’t have bought anyway.

        • Might be Stupid

          @Jabari: What about the time of the people who wrote the song, recorded the song, engineered and mixed the recording, marketed the album, etc, etc, etc. You are stealing from all of those people, and the fact that you “wouldn’t have bought the song anyway” has no bearing on the situation whatsoever.

          Like all the other folks defending piracy, you are simply trying to justify your crimes. If there’s nothing wrong with what you do, would you be willing to explain your behaviour to the artists whose songs you illegally procured? I suspect that you would be too ashamed.

        • SmotherTheresa

          @Anon: What about the time of the people who wrote the song, recorded the song, engineered and mixed the recording, marketed the album, etc, etc, etc. You are stealing from all of those people, and the fact that you “wouldn’t have bought the song anyway” has no bearing on the situation whatsoever.

          You’re right. What about those people? Why are you paying a recording label to fistfuck our artists?
          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110707/03264014993/riaa-accounting-how-to-sell-1-million-albums-still-owe-500000.shtml

        • sLoP0101

          Thats a dodge. As someone who works in the music industry I would say piracy has been quite devastating. Labels generally dont pay for artists to record anymore therefore studios get less work, artists are forced to find a means to pay for they’re album elsewhere. Most large studios in LA are having trouble keeping the doors open, since sustaining a multimillion dollar facility takes more than indie money. This applies to most pirated industries (movies, PC games)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZD4NGSQBUC4AL2A67BCGKHBNWE AKP666

          Property Rights? You mean Copyrights. The property rights belong to whoever purchased the material to begin with, transferring title and ownership of the property. Copyright Laws turn Sales Agreements into Leasing Agreements because apparently the Copyright Holder still owns the property rights to the product that was in fact sold. That doesn’t actually seem to make sense, but who’s going to challenge them. I say overturn Copyright Laws, they’re so far removed from what Copyright Laws were initially intended.

        • Freedomreigns

          Ha, check this clown out, he thinksvhe’s funny. Respect property rights. In reality, the singer, group, rapper, etc. is who this truely belongs to. The damn companies are just greedy. If that’s their property, then they should keep it off the internet, which is a sharing service ( information, pictures, poems,etc.). The hell with those copanies, there’s others, and there’s freedom fighters out there that are wizards and einsteins that will come up with something for people wont loose their freedom on the internet. An independent internet company, hot spots, free wifi, something for us who dont agree with your corporate loving ass. Pretty sure you work for them or something. So dont you worry your tiny little itty bitty head about us, we’ll manage.

      • RIAAtarded

        These are only evasion techniques and not a solution. what they need to do is if you’re able, switch ISPs. They might be kissing the content holders ass but in the end they won’t continue to put forth something that will effect their profit margins. A mass exodus of customers will cause them to rethink this foolish policy. Funny how a United Nations report said that disconnecting people from the internet is a human rights violation and against international law and yet they still choose do it anyway.

        • USDoJ – Attorney General

          Quote: “They might be kissing the content holders ass but in the end…”…they enjoy it. Before you know it, they’ll be doing more than just kissing their ass – they’ll be humping their ass, and in that process, they’ll be extracting copyright laws and associated amendments to that law, from the ass.

          Now we all know why copyright law stinks so much.

        • Shitter

          BULLSHIT!!! YOU WANT THE INTERNET? THEN YOU PLAY BY THE RULES.
          OKAY? K!!!! Glad we cleared that up dumbfuck.

        • Sum Bum

          “These are only evasion techniques and not a solution. what they need to do is if you’re able, switch ISPs.”

          Well, that’s a problem, then. In most of the US, people have 1 or 2 ISPs to choose from, and it’s typically a choice between one providing broadband, and the other dialup, or DSL at best.

      • Tootighttobuyadvd

        Since when has people trying to stop a toe rag thief such as yourself from stealing deemed as anti freedom? Too tight to buy a fucking cd or dvd LOL low life gutter scum fucktard. Get a fucking job and get out of your moms bassment and buy the stuff you think you deserve for free. It is laughable how you fucktards try and put a political slant on stealing just so you can try and justify your low life shit actions and at the same time brain wash the even dumber fucktards into following your shit ass scummy ways. Too tight to by a fucking dvd. You all berate Hollywood yet you want the stuff they produce. LMFAO, GET A FUCKING JOB AND A LIFE SCUM.

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Please try to avoid procreating once you reach puberty – you’ll be doing yourself, any progeny and Life in general a favour.

          Meanwhile, please seek therapy for your misplaced and erroneous assumptions as well as your antisocial attitude toward law-abiding, decent folks of the World.

        • Guest

          Rob is one of those great “No job, on the dole” wanting everything for free types. When he’s not stealing benefits he’s stealing content.

          You pretty much nailed him Tootighttobuyadvd.

          Take a look at his comments on Alistair Campbells site where he invokes the ECHR and peoples rights to be paid for their work and not be ripped off while at the same time he’s on here whoring an opposite opinion for “likes”.

          He’s a total contradiction and an attention whore.

      • PhantomSoul

        …Yet people keep buying mega-products and mega-services at mega-prices. The tribe has spoken. Democratically. Quit your whining.

    • Bob

      100% free VPN Thanks for the heads up!

    • Vpnbook

      I’ve been testing the http://www.vpnbook.com free vpn. Works fast.

      I guess for torrents the published username/password is OK.

      Obviously man-in-the-middle attack is simple but only by ISPs.

      Yet this open-free approach is a simple way to defeat MarkMonitor.
      http://torrentfreak.com/isps-and-tracking-company-ready-to-start-six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-120928/

      I suspect many of these types of “published” vpns will be springing up.

      Funny. A vpn with a published username/password seems self-defeating.

      Yet it may well fuck MarkMonitor up the ass.

      • Dunnduhnndunnp

        Have you seen the privacy policy: “Abuse the system and be banned.”

        now think for a minute, what they could mean by “abuse the system”.

        • Spam Spam Spam

          SPAM you idiot!

          They allow torrents. They allow everything except spam.
          Anybody like spam? NSA and Spam? SOPA, Spam, Eggs and Spam?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

        • Guest

          How do can they TELL if you’re abusing their system?

          By spying on you?

      • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

        Checked it out. Seems to give me my max ISP’s speed (~1.8 MB/s). Really impressed with it being donation-based.

      • Ray186

        Unless it’s MarkMonitor who provided the VPN for you to use.

        • Romania Rules

          Highly unlikely. vpnbook.com is hosted on Voxility in Romania.
          Voxility has a reputation for being “bad ass”. Hardly the Mafiaa types.

          In Romania … VPN FUCKS MarkMonitor.

          Romania says FU MarkMonitor!

      • Mark Morrison [R&B Singer

        R&B singer and self-proclaimed bad boy Mark Morrison would love to fuck-up and beat the mother fucking crap out of MarkMonitor, simply for having to share the first 6 characters of with MarkMonitor.

    • FrostyC

      If all they will be doing is blocking access to websites, you could still use a proxy, Tor and Telecomix’s DNS to route around their block. Hopefully your average person will start to smell the shit in the air and complain now that this will be there to bother them.

      • The_Strawbear

        My thoughts too, it almost feels like AT&T know that this kind of punishment will be no real punishment at all to anyone who might be falsely (cough) accused of torrenting.

        Besides, we’ve still got to see how legal this is when people start being denied access to sites they might need for work or sites other ppl in the household are deprived by the withholding of.

    • freedomfighter la resistance

      Thanks for the headsup viva la resistance! Power once again to the ppl It would be awesome to Ddos these bytches…….I play that old song breaking the law while downloading my fav shows lol phuc tha police!

    • guest12

      Even though vpnbook claim`s they keep no logs and what not.. how do you know that they are not spying on you? Call me paranoid, but if you can`t beat them, join them.. what if MPAA/RIAA are making these amazing free vpns to get your ip. I mean, its the only other way they can.

    • Alex Bers

      pirateray.com – encrypts and hides your connections and activity.

  • http://identi.ca/LauRoman Lauren?iu Roman

    I smell lawsuits or bad press for flagging false positives a la Youtube.

    • chronoss chiron

      at&T would threaten to tell about all the spying so the gvot will cover there butts , they are above the law ….

    • Mat_t

      the funny part is they act like the lawsuit would come from the RIAA.

      Do they not know that the lawsuit will come from their customers? facepalm.

      • chronoss chiron

        now read what i said ….

        • 7th_Guest

          Now who in their right mind would want to do that?

  • Whatever

    “A set of leaked internal AT&T training documents”

    Someone didn’t agree at AT&T.

    “In an effort to assist content owners ”

    Who are their customers ? The “content owners” ?

    Strangely it never says “in an effort to assist their customers we will lose our data on a regular basis and we will tell them where to find VPN providers at the fifth time to make sure they don’t get sued.”

    • Dondilly

      As for their blocking sites until users take a copyright education course, I predict with a high degree of certainty that these 6 ISPs will not only lose customers but are likely to get DDoSed into oblivion until they take Basics 101 education course on the US bill of rights.

      • Guest

        A lot of people don’t have much of a choice in ISPs. I can only get Verizon or AT&T where I am unless I get satellite which is expensive. And it’s not like I live in a small town. Souther Cali is about as urban as it gets.
        I’ll probably start looking into VPN services.

      • DDoS Attack FTW!!

        Oh my goodness, I would love to see that happen. That would be hilarious. I’ll even take part in it myself.

      • sd

        Basic 1: The bill of rights restricts Congress, not private entities.

  • qingtian996

    tinyurl.com/8rezfs7

  • Zippospam

    and no massive amount of subscribers are fleeing like rates as right now? you go USA just bend over and take it like a good little bit……

    • hidef

      Many people have very little options as these are the major carriers in the US.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        These are Monopoly Telecoms. The reason these six tele-com companies are regulated monopolies is precisely to protect customers.

        These ISPs dare to presume that their 75% control of the American Tele-com Market will enable them to stuff their combined TOSs down the throats of all Americans as a substitute for the American Constitution.

        What should be the response of American citizens? No level of outrage could possibly be adequate; but, we must hope that there is enough public outrage to address the disgraceful regulatory and legislative failures that have enabled these companies to become this BIG and this ARROGANT.

        These ISPs are actually holding out their TOSs as the socio-political equivalent of Law.

        Isn’t the real meaning of Fascism that Corporations have become empowered to rule us?

      • chronoss chiron

        lol and you have zero options shortly muhaha
        this is what you get for allowing lawyers and corproations to run your republic….
        you might as well use dna to raise hitler and mussolini
        have one run for the democrats and the other for republicans….as everyone says there is literally ZERO difference.

    • Anonymous

      Flee where? The ISPs divided up the US between themselves; they don’t compete with each other, so everyone generally only has one ISP available, which lets them charge monopoly rents. They also band together to crush anything that might dislodge them; they already killed off municipal broadband, and now they’re lobbying against Google Fiber.

      It’s either buy from them or go without. Now they’re going to start disconnecting subscribers based on the say-so of the same bunch that sued dead people and network printers. This may end up setting the US back 20 years.

      • Guest

        Make that 40 years.

      • Whatever

        Isn’t the US suppose to be all about capitalism where there should be a free market that doesn’t tolerate monopolies.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          That is the very first failure…..tolerance of Monopolies. The longer we live under them, the clearer it will become that it’s a life and death struggle to get rid of them.

        • Guest

          All free markets are guided by profit margin and market stability, which means they inevitably move toward a succession of vertically integrated monopolies.

    • Esponapule

      where I live all I have for broadband is ATT or Comcast…. which do you suggest I choose?

      • The Guy

        I have the same problem as you. All other ISPs don’t have service where I am.

    • Guest

      Most of the subscribers probably don’t even know this six strikes thing is happening.

      Once it’s implemented, that’s when the shit will hit the fan. Customers will get mad as fuck. False positives will be made. ISPs will be sued.

      The whole strikes concept will die an in an orgy of rage and lawsuits, at least in North America. It will be glorious.

      • @Echo_off

        You sir… just made my day.

  • That_Anonymous_Coward

    Customers are responsible for their connections… funny the Federal Courts have ruled otherwise when it comes to negligence claims.

    Given the company they are using to track people knows nothing about BT this should be fun seeing lawsuits against them for implementing this plan.

    • chronoss chiron

      im responsible for your wifes panties being missing tooo….ooops did i say that outloud….just funnyhow backwards your nation goes….

      • That_Anonymous_Coward

        This is an attempt to make a Terms of Service a replacement for the law. They want to replace the law with what they think it should be, and they need to be stopped.

      • 7th_Guest

        The only things you’re responsible for is the drool on your family PC keyboard and the skidmarks on the man diaper your mother has to change for you every night. Now off to 4chan with you, dipshit.

  • http://twitter.com/happyizpunjai happy

    fuck now i have to use vpn & proxy= a slower seeding&leeching. if any body wanna hook me up with a free vpn or private proxy to email happysingh9292@gmail.com. have a laptop i leave on all day unlimited amount of seeding can be done.

    • Obvious

      Ok I would love to give my details over to a RIAA/MPAA drone :) Why not just ask for my social security as well?

  • Guest

    ISP’s could be opening themselves up to a lawsuit also. If they block access to popular websites such as Google, ESPN, ABC News, etc I could see lawsuits filed against AT+T.

  • mr know it all

    I wonder what ISP will be stupid enough to be the first to actually enforce this policy. Can we say bad for business?

    • That_Anonymous_Coward

      In several markets they basically have a monopoly. There is no other choice of provider.

      • Bleek

        and that may be the best next battlefield target. a grass-roots political effort aimed at breaking the anti-public interest, corporation enriching, market monopoly franchise models.

  • guest

    those providers are stupid, they should have tried to get some thing out of the deal. If i were them i would not have agreed with 6 six thing i would have said to give my company the content cheaper so we can have a competitive prices in the playing field so that we can offer affordable legit services that offers the type of content the user wants so it draws them away from downloading .

    • That_Anonymous_Coward

      Some of them have content production wings, and we have no idea what is being offered in trade to avoid the pesky legal steps to do this private enforcement drive.

      • Pelham123

        Comcast and NBC Universal are the same company, so it might even be accurate to say this MafiAA member has an ISP wing.

        • That_Anonymous_Coward

          And funny how they both are sitting on the board of CCI.
          Would anyone care to ponder how someone who runs a PR firm is qualified to run a company that depends on technology that they don’t actually understand? They company gathering the information doesn’t but the people paying them know even less.

  • guest

    better yet they should offer lower price for the content to any company like netflix even start ups.

  • anon

    LOL !!! ANother fucking retard thing that will miserably fail to work… Can’t wait to see this show !!!

    • The Guy

      Correct me if i’m wrong, but this is a scheme that potentially violates the 4th and 5th amendments as well.

      The backlash to this idiocy far outweighs the benefits and I see this failing within perhaps a month or 2, tops.

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  • Busterbrown7077

    So I’m an AT&T Uverse subscriber and I actually happen to be in the small geographical area with a non-monopoly option. Its actually Sonic.net who came out against this scheme as repressive and unnecessary. Torrentfreak, where’s my AT&T executive level email blast or phone list so that i can let them all know where they can go as i move to higher speeds with their small competitor?

    • sk

      http://www.facebook.com/ATT

      It’s not executives, but the recent post list is full of angry AT&T customers complaining about poor service. And, you can post links, like to this TF article, or other articles about how bad AT&T sucks. Hopefully it’ll be the last straw for someone, and they’ll cancel their service. I learned my lesson with AT&T 15 years ago, but I wish I could cancel again for old time’s sake.

    • chronoss chiron

      your option would have been to make friends in another area BUT alas you didn’t and your screwed ….moving are you?

  • dood

    The anti-blasphemy laws of the West. They’ll work just as well (read: not at all).

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  • Guest

    Fascist States of America

    • anon

      Fascism was not defeated, it was adopted

      • chronoss chiron

        yup and it all started with project paperclip

      • WeAreNotFree

        Fascism came to the United States wrapped in the flag and holding a cross, riding a wheelbarrow full of dirty money and being carried by wage slave labor.

    • Guest112

      —SCREW AMERICA
      *goes to piratebay and downloads american movies, music , porn , tv shows

      • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

        I wish these folks would get a fracking clue already. American TV runs on the 50′s ere Neilson ratings system./ This system DOES NOT take into account how many folks pirate an episode or watch an episode on the internet. IF however they DID do this American ratings would JUMP to a three figure number overall & double per DVD region. This then reduces to does one keep the burned DVD & home printed label or buy that season online or at a retail location?

      • 7th_Guest

        I weep for your tastes.

  • anonome

    “customers who are identified as having been downloading copyrighted content without authorization from the copyright owner.” HUH??
    Copyright law is about REDISTRIBUTION, not access nor downloading – - that’s called privacy and security solved by NOT POSTING the material.

    (C) law allows ‘reasonable use’ for research and discussion.

    It would help if these pundits would read before writing or speaking

  • Anonymous

    the only way there will be any reduction in so-called ‘illegal file sharing’ is for the entertainment industries to start listening to customers. if that doesn’t happen then the various ISPs that have sold out their customers to the entertainment industries need to find a lot of customers moving to a new one or closing the internet accounts. the only thing companies recognise is a removal of revenue. cut their income and they will listen. they need to remember they are paying for all the crap yhe industries want, not the industries themselves!

    • The Guy

      Had the entertainment industries listened to the customers in the first place, this would never have happened. Alas, they are digging their own grave and I see the masses rising up and taking back the country with brute force.

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  • neb12

    These folks at Whorelywood don’t give a damn about copyright law. They just make it up as they go. A yes, copyright does allow a copy for personal use. Someone let the snake out of the bag.

  • Lucid

    this may get delayed again no isp wants to deal with this shit

    • chronoss chiron

      AT&T doesn’t care, why should they , already they prove they dont over the illegal wiretapping…..and immunity….

  • Lucid

    is six strikes for the entire life the account or a yr.?

    • neb12

      I have 5 strikes, they lied to everyone about the implemetation of the rules. And yes, it seems to be for life. They had given me 3 strikes prior to July and when I got my 4th and 5th they sent me threats of disconnection. Now I see they want to control my surfing habits and still charge me for the connection. Pretty slick.

      they=verizon

      • The Guy

        Verizon is shit, both their internet and their phone plans. Well their internet is fast, but with this, it is shit too.

      • guest77

        CHANGE ISP , dont work ? CHANGE COUNTRY (maybe you are in the most shitty country USA) better to go away in future will be totally fucked up ! dont work ? tehey come from you – then fuck them and fight for your rights as a human and your freedom
        im shure that will work

    • Pelham123

      I recall reading somewhere that after a year without a strike your record “resets” to zero.

      A recent Wired article said that you get one mulligan if you claim unsecured wi-fi, seven days’ grace after a strike, and strikes won’t be issued for every infringement. The Wired article did not make much sense, but basically, the goal is to harass people who use Bittorrent, not disconnect them.

  • ofProto

    Fucking idiots.

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  • Montisaquadeis

    If they start block things via dns its easy enough to use different dns servers I myself use Googles dns servers instead of comcasts crappy set we have so many issues with their dns servers that when I switched everyone to using googles it was like night and day here. Issues like our magic jack not working when the rents were playing mmorpg games dont ask me how comcast dns servers messed with that but some how it did.

    • DNS

      I like …

      Telecomix DNS => 91.191.136.152
      and
      OpenDNS => 208.67.220.220

      Use them on all my VPN connections.

      • US->FuckingBIGSHIT

        BIG LoooooL
        cryptoanarchy.org and telecomix.org block my VPN IP and they say that they are again the censorship xDDDD

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      Problem is that ISPs often supply customers with their own router/modem combo, typically they do not allow for DNS changes.

      • Montisaquadeis

        Those are the ADSL people that do the cable people give you just a modem and you supply the router. Even so it is easy enough to force the pc itself to use a different set of dns servers.

        • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

          Ahh you’re right. Despite a different one in my router (OpenDNS) I was able to put in Telecomix’s in TCP/IP settings and bypass my router.

  • Sawalter1

    Do we know yet exactly how this system will track? Torrent-only or filelocker too? Are they just pulling IPs from torrent swarms or other tracking techniques?

    • Fantastic

      so far judging by the companies involved it looks like what the porn industry has been doing the past few years and swarm harvesting the popular torrents and the ones the MAFIAA has on their list.

      • Pelham123

        The MAFIAA has also been doing this for years. I don’t think anybody knows at this point what if anything will really change.

    • Pelham123

      Torrent only.

      A third party can’t monitor what people are downloading from file lockers without the file locker’s consent.

  • Teiji

    Does this apply to Bittorrent downloads only? Or even hosters downloads?

    • neb12

      Any so-called illegal gathering of digital material. They hire 3rd parties to gather the information and run to the isp to bitch. Be sure, somebody is getting paid for these services, like those vpn sites etc. Chances are the same folks who are causing these things owns them also.
      Don’t forget who funds President OBama and Biden. Where do they go for money? Whorelywood…………..

      Lets see….Netflix 8 dollars a month, don’t work. VOD 3 dollars per flick. DVDs 50 for ten dollars……….what would you choose?

      • Pelham123

        “Any so-called illegal gathering of digital material.”

        False. You will only get strikes for participation in Bittorrent streams. Watching an unauthorized upload on YouTube, for example, will never earn you a strike.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Sure about that? It is VERY possible that these companies could be given a ‘list’ of unauthorized links and have to go through their customers list of links to see if they ever went to those websites, then penalize them for going there.

  • Guest

    When the MAFFIA finds out that an IP address belongs to a VPN then they will subpena the VPN for the logs etc, to find out the real IP address of the person if that should fail then they will probably take the VPN to court for refusal and then start lobbying to make people exempt from being allowed to have or access to a VPN,

    • neb12

      My whole point is that they circumvented the law by having a syndicate style meeting to establish these rules outside of the law. Bittorrent is not illegal. P2P is. Remember Napster? %The call BT P2P, however, it is not true. Watch. It has nothing to do with the law other than copyright that they selectively use certain portions in order to justity thier ends.

      • Who

        um……Bittorent is to p2p. napster isn’t illegal p2p anymore man, they pay royalty’s to the riaa now.

    • Wrong

      WRONG! Many VPNs are shared so hundreds (thousands) of people share a common public IP. A subpoena (spelled correctly) would be useless without detailed packet analysis. That ain’t happening for a torrent download.

      Don’t spread false information on this blog!

      • Guest

        I am not spreading false information. Yes logs of the VPN could be subpenod but what is to stop the MPAA et all. for lobbying to their pals in government to make a new law preventing people from being allowed or using a VPN service and a VPN only allowed to be used by a business.

        • Supenod

          WTF … subpenod? Sounds like a German Hipster Punk Band!

          What’s to Stop the Mafiaa you ask?
          Ever hear of SOPA? Ever hear how it was defeated?
          Na … probably not. You’re not much on current events are you.

          SUCKS TO BE YOU!

    • Ray186

      That’s why you don’t do businesses with VPN providers located in the U.S. The companies presence has to be offshore and not keep any logs. Try finding one with servers located in Sweden where file sharing is still legal, or in places where their governments hate the U.S like Iran, Venezuela, or Cuba. You get the picture

    • Ray186

      Don’t use a VPN located in the U.S. I personally want a VPN company located in either Iran or Cuba. Lets see how far those subpoenas get. And there is also SSTP. The ISP’s cant even tell if it’s a VPN.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Virtual Private Network (VPN) usage is legal in the majority of countries with the exception of Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria, so good luck finding a VPN based in Cuba. Cubans do illegally use VPN’s based outside of Cuba like Hidemyass, IPVanish, ExpressVPN, StrongVPN, VyprVPN, etc. Comprende?

  • foff

    I really don’t the issue. Isp’s are just going to have a bunch of pissed off customers. If you get a few strikes just fucking disconnect for a few days. When you sign up again use any name you want. They can’t keep track of strikes at a location only an account so again close the fucking account. Once people discover this weakness the isp’s will give up as they will get tired of opening and closing accounts. I do it all the time anyway because i get a promotional rate for a new a customer and when the promotional time is up and they refuse to continue the rate I disconnect call back in a couple of days and get the promotional rate. Stupid fucks causing themselves work for nothing.

    • Anonymous

      Doesn’t work that way. ISPs like AT&T take credit information, and if you’re classed as high or unknown credit (such as if your name doesn’t exist), you have to pay 3 arms and a leg to get service. For example, it’s $149 MINIMUM to get connected to AT&T (and that’s assuming you do the inside install yourself and purchase the internet gateway).

      Your statement also assumes that they don’t know who’s been at that same address before.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Guess again. My cousin signed up for AT&T a few years ago with ‘unknown credit’ and she didn’t have to pay anymore than I or my parents would have signing up with AT&T.

      • Who

        dude they stopped doing that years ago cause it was causing them to loose to much business. if they are still pulling that BS on you you need to take action and call the PSC.

  • TingVoo

    You have got to be kidding me. Seriously? This is jsut getting crazy dude.
    UA-Privacy.tk

  • Someone

    Please forgive me if I’m sarcastic, but the peons outside of the Empire have only Three Strikes, courtesy of your US Government pushing this insane scheme on the rest of the world. Obviously, some people are more equal than others, if they are Citizens of the US Empire. Enjoy your additional 3 free strikes! They set you clearly apart as first class slaves from the rest of us 2nd class slaves. (But slaves to the MAFIAA, you are still… — I don’t know whether I should laugh or cry).

    • Tom Gamache

      Your ISPs are under no legal obligation to due anything the riaa asks

    • MadAsASnake

      Like Hadopi? Where only a tiny handful of people have a slap on the wrist and a massive tax bill for everyone to pay for it? Nzers are already defending – and the MPAA lackies won’t even use the NZ system as they refuse to pay the fee. I’m unaware of a single EFFECTIVE strikes system.

    • ScrewEwe2

      Only five Internet providers have agreed to take part in the 6 Strikes program and send out warnings to their customers, so everyone else may not even get 3 strikes if the MAFIAA wants to play hardball.

  • Gear Mentation

    Welcome to the encrypted internet. It’s better this way anyhow.

    • Anonymous

      Ooh that sounds like a great advert…for TPPP.

      • Anonymous

        oops* TPP*

  • Gear Mentation

    And I eagerly await Kim Dotcom’s new offering… I wonder what difference that will make?

    • Ray186

      Once an artist gets rich by working with Dotcom the whole music industry is going to be made redundant.

  • Guest

    I just called at&t which is my isp and according to everyone that i talked to said that they had no idea why this info was published and that they keep all their costumers info confidential.

    of course they probably didn’t know about this or they were playing stupid to keep out of trouble. at least my last resort would be dropping them and switch to sonic which i’ll most likely do when faster speed comes to my area.

    • Sa

      That’s what they tell you.

  • ATTcanKissMyAss

    Shhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttt……. I have ATT

    Time to signup for TorGuard or BTGuard…

  • KiRE

    Isn’t it great where private companies get to have law enforcement powers? I guess getting all of our $$$ for their overpriced crap wasn’t enough for them..

  • Monster

    Just glad I have COX. They did not sign on with this bullshit. So far…

    • Sir Alec Guiness Stout

      Could we keep on subject and talk about ISPs? :)

  • Spartan

    AT&T can’t block websites, that would be a violation of the First Amendment. I don’t have AT&T but if they blocked any of my web access or block webpages I would take them to court.

    • Freedom of Speech

      The First Amendment only protects you against the government. It does not protect you from corporations. You can protest the company’s policies and refuse to do business with them, but you can’t sue them on First Amendment grounds.

      • Knapp40

        Watch me.
        If they are on American soil they follow American laws.

      • Judge

        OH MY GOD! YOU ARE SO FUCKING WRONG!

        The US constitution apply to EVERYONE within the reach of the United state and to every state member of the union. It is not just the federal government who must obey the US constitution but EVERYONE!!! You, me, the CEO, VP, Directors and employees of corporations, the cops the mayors the judges, the soldiers. . . EVERYONE!!! OK?

        Seriously you should really, really get an education because this level of ignorance is seriously damaging. Are you just born in the United State or something?

        • The_Strawbear

          Well it’s not everyone in every situation, but you’re basically correct, most people have to adhere to it.

          However if you’re going to belittle someone’s intelligence, make sure your own closing statement makes sense. Maybe use less exclamation marks too and no shouting please, it makes you look deranged.

          It’s funny how, on the largest information retrieval system ever, people can’t even be bothered to do five minutes research on say, the first amendment, or to use a spell checker.

          This is why we don’t deserve nice things.

        • Anonymous

          I’m afraid you’re the one that’s wrong. public institutions are what is covered under the First Amendment; if anything, it will be FCC Net Neutrality rules that will vindicate the people from these onerous restrictions.

          “The Supreme Court has never interpreted the First Amendment as having the power to alter purely private property rights, or provide any other protection against purely private action. When considering private authority figures (such as parents or an employer), the First Amendment provides no protection. A private authority figure may reserve the right to censor their subordinate’s speech, or discriminate on the basis of speech, without any legal consequences. ‘All may dismiss their employees at will,…for good cause, for no cause, or even for a cause morally wrong, without thereby being guilty of a legal wrong.’ ”

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Anonymous, it’s time to wake up. Thomas Jefferson said in NUMEROUS of his papers that the Bill of Rights was meant to apply not only to governmental infringement of those rights but CORPORATE and SINGLE-PERSON infringement of those rights as well.

    • Mephitidae

      court order had no problem getting TBB blocked… six strike + court = blocked site

      • Mephitidae

        *TPB that is…

        • MadAsASnake

          Well – sort of blocked…took me about 3 seconds to get around it (just to see that I could…)

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          TPB is NOT blocked anywhere in America that I know of. The European countries that have blocked it are dipshitty countries where they are trying to, slowly but surely, take away people’s human rights to free speech, free assembly, etc.

    • The_Strawbear

      How so? Under the basic free speech concept or the NAACP v. Alabama ruling regarding Freedom of Association?

  • Richard K

    Hi to everyone.

    I am an AT&T subscriber and I want you all to know something.

    Within the last month, my connection speed has slowed down, my streaming video performance (even for legal sites) has been horrible and curiously my connection is always routing to an AT&T site at 32-0-0-1 . Before now, it was a good service.

    I am witnessing unusual behavior with this service as of late. Does it coincide with AT&T’s implementation of the this intolerable monitoring?

    I think it does.

    These idiots think they are doing a good thing. All they will end up doing is degrading their service and losing customers, all in the name of copyright fascism.

    AT&T has a notorious reputation for not investing in their infrastructure to offer customers better bandwidth. Instead, they spend man hours and money investing in this.

    Other ISPs around the world are taking the lead in faster and faster bandwidth and regressive companies like AT&T will only get left behind. The world leaders in average connection speed are South Korea, Hong Kong, and Japan.

    Wake up and smell the coffee AT&T. Respect the privacy, dignity, and wishes of your customers and offer faster, UNREGULATED bandwidth. This is what people want whether you and your corporate controllers and paymasters like it or not.

    • The_Strawbear

      So leave then, that kind of slow down surely gives you a legal right to break contract. You’re not forced to use them.

      • Guest

        Unless AT&T is his only choice.

        In which case a VPN is the answer.

  • Anonymous

    Next up Time Warner cable

    *dun duun duuun*

  • henreeG

    Goodbye AT&T.

  • att&t sux

    “In soviet Russia websites block AT&T”

    haha
    but seriously.. this shit have gone too far in usa.

  • Victor

    how far into the rabbit hole do they have to crawl till they learn intellectul work is not property

    • The_Strawbear

      Go write a book then report back on that feeling.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        I have done that, The_Strawbear. It is not property. I put my books (All MA-rated) out into the public arena for consumption at no cost.

  • neb12

    These companies don’t care. They read this board as we write. They are going to survey the amount costumers that leagally pay for farmville against those who don’t.

    There is no law against the NWO. And if it is, we Americans created it.

    Chill with your flame wars.

  • Randy_Lahey

    Not surprised to see AT&T on here. I dumped them out in favor of Time Warner over a year ago because they implimented data caps, I think it was something like 200Gb per month..They were just nickel and diming us over every little thing that I told them to take a flying fuck. I was only on a 6mbit line and now I have something like 11 at the same price with no caps and no six-strike bullshit.

    • Yubba

      Time Warner will also be implementing the six strike rule. Just letting you know.

      • Randy_Lahey

        Hey, good luck to them..I’m on the newsgroups and not many other places, the $6 a month for peace of mind is worth it.

        • Jo-shmo

          @Randy are you talking about Usenet?

    • DrAwesome

      200GB per month would be amazing. Here in Canada it costs $30~ for 50 GB from our major ISP’s (Bell, Rogers).

      • abusive

        I’m with Tek Savvy Solutions got me 30mbits and 300GB download cap for 29.95$ a month in Ottawa. Try to stay away from Bell / Rogers and go with to smaller ISPs there just not as Nazi as the big two.

    • The_Strawbear

      if you’re using 200GB a month you really need to get out more, for your health if nothing else.

      • joexxx

        Well… I doubt he is using 200GB per month… but his computer maybe.
        So he could well be outside all this time.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          The_Strawbear: One 30-minute, 1080p HD show is 800MB’s to 1gig. SO yeah, he could use that much per month easily.

  • neb12

    You don’t know, but I have created more than 4000 movies. All for personal use.
    Everything from Star wars to star whores. So my batting average is 4000/5.
    Not bad.
    Ever hear of proxy servers?
    That’s where the not money is.

    Here is the catch. Everything online is illegal. except porn.

    Old Led-Zep song. I’m going to quit you babe….
    Another, Bob Dylan…….Desolation Row

    Joke em if they can;t take a fuck

    BTW, click the ads

  • scott1984

    So just another reason to push my idea of pirate internet. A cheap antenna with small broadcast hops to start distributing files. Solar powered repeaters just randomly placed. Cheap under 100 bucks just put them everywhere and now we have our own underground web. For a few thousand i think you could get hundreds of people online. Do it like a non profit communications you’d be slammed with business. If there was a non profit phone company out there people would rape them for service availability.

  • Guest

    Hard disk drives. Storage media.

    Good luck banning those, Anon. How do you think six-strikes will succeed where HADOPI completely flopped? Two years, billions of taxpayer money, and the one person they caught wasn’t even the right one. Money well spent eh?

  • LeeJ23

    For all of you recommending Btguard, can you confirm that it works with UDP trackers through Socks5? If not, since so many sites are going to magnet links involving UDP trackers, how can Btguard be an appropriate choice?

    Also I have seen repeated posts online saying that BTguard proxy port 1025 is down, although that is the port BTguard apparently has you use.

    Any alternatives for Vuze and/or µTorrent that work with UDP/Socks5?

  • neb12

    Ya know, one of my favorite all time things was going through booking and hearing these kids say to the Sheriff, “You can’t do that!” Fucking folks are so off base.

    Remember, I am wrong.

    Experience

  • 0omg

    AMERCIA FUCK YEAH ….. AMERICA fuck..o0.. we are screwed … NOT…. VPN FUCK YEAH !!

  • Andrew Lee

    What I want to know is how much will they actually enforce this bullshit because I have a feeling if it starts to actually cost them customers they won’t do a good job on “catching people”.

    Like the movie and music companies AT&T also has a common interest and that is MONEY. They’ll tell movie and music to fuck off if it ends up costing them too much. It’s just the way big business works because you know much as me they don’t give a fuck about anything but their own pockets.

  • The_Strawbear

    I think anyone beating up on AT&T here is kinda dumb.

    Considering what they could enforce on you, this is barely a punishment. They clearly realise that anyone they deal with too harshly, you’ll just leave for a smaller ISP.

    The training course bullshit is just that, and it will be something u can leave playing whilst you go fap in your room I’d imagine then return and your internet will be restored. Maybe a multiple choice questionnaire, idk.

    If this is their solution to piracy, then piracy won’t be dying quickly.

    They’ve been forced into this corner, what else can they do? They’re not threatening to block or throttle so that’s a win for anyone accused.

    • MadAsASnake

      The training course is MAFIA propoganda, and highly insulting to everyone. I would not justify this action by watching or pretending to watch it

    • joexxx

      You must be a sucker that likes to pay to suck the big one.

  • Davisyuge

    As At&T seems to be phasing out DSL,heading towards U-Verse, I’m wondering if keeping DSL would make a difference as far being monitored?

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    • guest

      Go away spammer.

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  • Lilly

    Bring it on CCI, just got my new VPN for a year and changed my DNS servers to Blockaid. They won’t stop me from sharing with people who share with me. =)

  • http://twitter.com/bdawgstreetlord Brandon Hope

    I decided to be a good consumer the other day, I’m a huge fan of Perfume and I wanted to buy their new Album. So HMV or any local stores don’t have it cool, go to amazon, its $80 (for a 12 song album) and I still have to add duty tax AND shipping.

    Seriously when you tread your customers like that how can you NOT expect them to download it……

  • Roswell1701

    Quote: “When repeated infringers try to access certain websites they will be redirected to an educational page.”

    RE-EDUCATIONAL PAGE, actually… Well, FUCK YOU! Go VPN! :)

  • Dxloat

    400+ gb a month of comercial free goodness for the last 4 years through vpn, and not a fuck was given.

  • erasmus654

    God Bless you Charter Communications!

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      They’ll sell you out too; as soon as they get the upstairs call……

  • Boblenton3

    This will not work in the ISP’s favour they will regret helping MIAA and MAFIAA. When this kicks in people will simply use a VPN and or go with another ISP that just want money in exchange for a good internet connection. AT&T will lose alot of money and costumers so really their kicking themselves in the foot. Well done AT&T

  • chronoss chiron

    I ENDORSE THIS AT&T good get rid of your customers online cant wait till next year when millions are shoved off the net cant wait when they dont have net access and start wandering out into the street being as pissed off as now….by summer that occupy movement might jsut have become really big…..and ugly….

    haha if the kids and people are in front of a pc they aren’t in front of you….this is a funny move….

    and before you get tossed offline find out where all the RIAA /MPAA buildings are near YOU….

  • Guest

    This is a good thing. It will keep people honest. It is fair. And you get plenty of warnings about your illegal activities.

    And all you internet toughies carrying on about VPN as the be all end all are so full of shit. The cops can get you through a VPN too if you get their attention.

    • MadAsASnake

      IP is not capable of identifying a person ( and generally doesn’t even identify a download). Wanna call it illegal – get evidence that will stand up in court BEFORE you accuse them. ISP’s should only be doing this sort of shit under intruction from a court…

      • Gordons

        Cops couldn’t get through an instruction manual for the correct operation of a light switch.

        • Gordons

          Meh, I clicked the wrong Reply to box, shoulda read the instructions I guess 0_o

    • Guest

      “The cops can get you through a VPN too if you get their attention.”

      Only if you use a log keeping, shit-tier VPN.

    • Dxloat

      Yes I suppose you could argue that it is possible to get gotten through a VPN but not probable. Granted the NSA could trace and decrypt a VPN tunnel, but do you have any concept of the resources and assets required to do such a thing? Additionally anyone with half a brain doesn’t use a USA based VPN because that would make it too easy for legal action. Basically as long as you are not plotting a terrorist act, dealing large quantities of drugs, child porn, or assassination you do not need to worry about the NSA bringing its power to bear on you. I would like anyone to show me even 1 instance in which someone was prosecuted or successfully sued by a rights holder after being hidden behind a VPN that wasn’t USA based.

  • Guest

    “Educational”? More like brainwashing.

    • MadAsASnake

      yup – next we here is that it’s the industries standard approach – we’ll never hear anything about it being fair, legal, reasonable etc.

  • US->FUCKINGBIGSHIT

    Give up your country rotten to the core A M E R I C A N S !
    You are totally controlled and monitored as if you were all threats to your corrupt government controlled by lobbyists ^^
    Save money, go outside the United States and enjoy your life.
    These bitches prefer money to your wellbeing.

    • ScrewEwe2

      Since we Americans are all rotten to the core, it may not be a good idea to go outside the country, because then our rottenness could unintentionally affect fine people like you that we would come into contact with. I just couldn’t live with myself if I made you rotten to the core too.

  • XTX

    AT&T will close the doors.

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  • Spike

    How are they handling the can of worms when it comes to different rightsholders? Does that mean someone can get 5 strikes between a mix of various MPAA or RIAA content, and then downloads a porno, gets his fitfth strike from BenDover etc, so does that mean said porn company can file a lawsuit even though subscriber only violated that company’s copyright once?

    I’ve never seen this question answered.
    This would also apply to RIAA and MPAA members too I would thought, various strikes from MPAA member companies, but someones visiting daughter downloads some Bieber and gets you your sixth strike, can the RIAA now sue you?

    • Fantastic

      this is just another part of the problems that the Law Professor mentioned a little while back I think in that this thing is way too secretive in what and how its supposed to do what its promised to do. Bottom line if what in the AT&T document is true then this looks more like censorship than any sort of “educating”.

    • Guest

      The six strikes is separate from any lawsuit you will get. you can get sued on the first infarction, or maybe not at all. The six strikes stuff is just an alert system with it’s own set of punishments. It does nothing to shield you against an assertive copyright holder.

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  • tmc8080

    AND IT BEGINS!!!!!!
    Where are groups such as Anonymous when you need them?!?

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  • Sir Alec Guiness Stout

    We need to all remain calm and ask the universal question…

    “What would Brian Boitano do?”

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  • Let On

    Guys if you really want to stay with AT&T but want to continue downloading torrents and what not, just use a VPN… you know it already.
    https://www.ipredator.se/
    Do it now.. do it..

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  • Jpassons

    Here’s my concern in all of this.. I don’t have cable or TV access and therefore download TV shows that I enjoy the day after they air. Lets say I download 5 shows in a single week.. How long does it take for the copyright owner to alert my ISP in the event that I get tagged on EVERY download? I could easily get 5 notices (or 10) 2 weeks after the first instance if it takes them awhile to get to it and then I’m facing a potential lawsuit? This is a bit scary. I recently beefed up my security, using Peerblock, encryption on torrents, a proxy server, and am considering paying for a VPN if need be.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      I wouldn’t worry about it. If my ISP tried to penalize me for that, I would send a letter back to them saying that those shows were available for free at X website and I am just getting it in another manner, thereby making it legal.

      Just like it would be if a friend recorded the show and gave it to me to watch.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    One word: TOR. Enough said. This will not stop anyone who realizes how easy it is to de-block websites.

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  • Byte Master

    The Content & Copyright Industry is escalating the war. What “we” should do is create educational pages of our own. (a) what’s really going on with the RIAA and MPAA, (b) how to avoid detection using a VPN, and (c) who to call to complain = your friendly local representative (phone, fax, e-mal).

    This is a great chance for the US Pirate Party to get noticed; make a special “Six Strike” site and try to be the top result when someone that received a strike is going on Google to see what’s going on.

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  • Kanos_pon

    Looks like Prince was right: the Internet was just a fad and now it’s over.

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  • AnonATTUser

    So what?

    Are they going to show these notices when people go to YouTube? Google? When they are about to download Firefox, Chrome, or an email client, all huge vectors of copyright infringement.

    • ryukage99

      Or even buying something on ITunes

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  • ryukage99

    Google’s having another problem. Possible Antitrust suit. I wish they did with those big media.

  • ryukage99

    I don’t think it gonna work,One angry costumer could get EFF to sue CCI for false allegations like for watching Netflix or buying something on ITunes. They tried in France for 2 years and only one conviction but one wrong person.

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  • RomneyRyan

    Again AT&T prove to be the worst company in the world on human rights… First to lay on there backs and allow the bush admin to rape customers and now the MPAA and RIAA.

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  • @Echo_off

    My “National boycott of the five largest internet service providers in America” senses are tingling!

  • Simon Brown

    Gotta love that freedom.

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  • MissBrady12

    I applaud AT&T for attempting to address the serious problem of copyright infringement/piracy. We all know the “three strikes and you’re out” rule, either from a childhood classroom or for those baseball aficionados. I, at least, have always considered this rule to be fair: you get the opportunity to mess up and have a warning issued telling you what you did wrong. This way, if your mistake was truly accidental/innocent, you are not treated as though you were maliciously committing such a crime. AT&T has taken the concept even further, allowing for more leniency with customers in their “six strike” rule. I like this rule because I think that, many times, individuals violate anti-piracy and copyright laws without even realizing that they are doing so. In this instance, AT&T is allowing for time to educate the public about the nature of their internet habits and its effects. I also think their punishment rules are really smart. Requiring an online copyright course would further educate people about what is and what isn’t considered violations of copyright and anti-piracy laws and what steps to take to avoid these crimes. In a time when we have witnessed the Internet explode beyond our wildest dreams, we need to realize that each individual will learn and adapt to this new technology at their own pace. While we cannot allow them to commit crimes based on pure ignorance we must also be mindful of who is perpetrating crimes with bad intent and who is doing so out of an inability to comprehend the scope of their actions. I think this is a great first step at preventing piracy and protecting copyrights online.

    • Babies12

      Are you Jill from the CCI? You sound like her.

    • Yubba

      MissBrady your wrong! Next you’ll say its okay for the government to open up your mail and read it! I feel its wrong for an isp to break your encryption in order to analyze your upload or download. For me that’s an invasion of privacy!

    • joexxx

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  • lattari

    “When repeated infringers try to access certain websites they will be redirected to an educational page. To lift the blockade, AT&T will require these customers to complete an “online education tutorial on copyright”

    That’s so crazy I don’t have words for it. Paid service providers acting like a spanking parent. Only in America.

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  • bound_n_determined

    This is slightly arbitrary to be more than honest. They are taking a stance against antipiracy, and while I completely respect their efforts, they could be spending this same money on making my internet more effecient and faster, because I pay for 2MB speeds, and Im lucky if I get 800KB. Think about this.

    1. android (and to my knowledge, iPhone) have music download apps, are you going to start snooping on the billions of phones in the world?

    2. People on youtube actually upload MOVIES (paid). I would be lying if I didnt say I didnt take the free opportunity to watch Pandorum on youtube for free… Are you going to ban us from Youtube?

    3. There are still millions of sites across the internet (such as germany, russian and middle east server based sites) All across the internet that have pirated content on their OWN servers that are completely accessible (and readable thanks to the auto translate in Google Chrome) to the free world. So even if you kill ONE dragon, you have a colony of them you have to slay right behind it. Just shut down the internet at this point!

    4. People actually release their music for free LEGITIMATELY on torrent sites. My friend had music from The Pirate Bay, and the artist he was listening to had an AD on the site’s homepage that essentially said, “we believe music should be free and should be done for the love of the art, so we release all of our albums exclusively on TPB). Im no constitutional expert, but this has to in some form or fashion infringe on first amendment rights, the artists cannot express themselves musically (varies based on the legal and individual interpretation) because their only outlet is now outlawed by the government.

    5.We have a 15 Trillion dollar deficit in this country, and no one with a big title worth pirating is struggling in Hollywood, so our priorities are all F**Ked up with this one…

    SO, am I saying piracy is right, absolutely NOT. But am I saying that AT&T is focusing on BS rather than getting to the real problem, like scamming their users out of a decent internet speed (like me), YES! And judging by the discussion of Proxies and VPNs, they haven’t solved anything at all, they just wasted money and found another way to keep a closer eye on Americans.

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  • Azraellus

    Here’s what I’m wondering: how long will the strikes be on your record? Do they fall off after so many months, or can I get 4 strikes, stop downloading for a few years and those strikes still count against me?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank-White/100002970542124 Frank White

    @ Might be Stupid

    “Bottom line: you are a thief who is trying to justify his actions by grasping at very flimsy logical straws. How do I know? I used to BE you. Then I grew up. :P”

    Well, since you’re being so honest and all, then you should probably also admit that at least part of what you mean by you “grew up” is that you started making a lot more money and could then afford the luxury of never taking anything for free. Maybe if the middle-class weren’t on a very steep decline in this country and could afford to spend more money on luxury items they too would be converts to your way of thinking. I can almost guarantee you that nine out of ten people here echoing your sentiments don’t make a dime less than fifty grand a year. ;)

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  • who

    has ANY one person that’s blowing it out of your shorts about p2p file sharing is considered steeling, actually look up the definition of the words stealing/theft and piracy? I don’t think you have.

    piracy= to make a copy of something and use in a manner to witch is was not intended.
    theft/steal= to take the property of of some one with out permission.

    *if I make a copy of say a movie I own and give it to you that’s NOT stealing!! but yet they are trying to make it like that is theft*

    the problem with the crap is they have got it blown so far out of proportion that all they really care about is the money. they are not hurting one dam bit. IF they were then they would stop making stuff and pursue all this crap to put a stop to it years ago. also to any one that thinks they know how the entertainment industry really works you are a moron.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZD4NGSQBUC4AL2A67BCGKHBNWE AKP666

      I agree. It’s like Burger King suing you for splitting your burger with a friend or Ford suing you for car pooling.

  • Jules Mazur

    Censored websites? Millionaire-controlled internet? Complete lack of net neutrality? Yep, sounds like a democracy to me.

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  • fdsfgs

    If I had the money to buy all the games and movie I pirated then I wouldn’t have pirated them in the first place. For me it’s not a case of “why buy it when I can get it for free,” it’s because I don’t actually have the money to buy everything that catches my interest. And when I can I buy the things that I think are worth the cost, which is still a considerable amount.

    Don’t lump all pirates under the same banner because, like everything else in the real world, things aren’t that black & white.

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  • Guest

    This is a great thing! It will reduce the amount of non-sense traffic on the net and thus speed things up.

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  • Stephan

    In ten years illegal downloading won’t effect music at all since a lot of talented people would do that for free, or if they can just make a living. Video games, however, are expensive to make and they will either suck ass or be gone in 10 years. Somebody has to pay for them. Even radical socialists know that – nothing is every really free and if nobody is paying for it – it will go as it’s unsustainable. Someone HAS to pay for movies and games to get made. We don’t live in a radical libertarian socialist country yet so there should be some thought to the producers of expensive software. That said I have to sympathy for these fascist multinationals. I’m all for their elimination but we need a system in place to pay people who produce this stuff. I’m not saying pirates should be in any way punished etc. but they have to realize if everyone copies it for free they will kill the industries eventually. It’s only viable because not everyone knows how to do it. Five years ago only my techy friends used torrents get to movies and games now 80% of them use it. I know a few people who haven’t paid for a movie in years and used to rent and buy them all the time.

    The solution will prolly involve a dissolution of these corporations with their huge profits and pure fascist structure to a radically democratic polity AND economy. It’s time to get politically involved GENERALLY. This issue is an important microcosm of a lot of our general problems.

  • http://www.techmansworld.com/ Michael Hazell

    Well does using Google DNS help combat this a little bit?

  • Theory

    The whole argument against digital works copying is stupid. Copyright laws were put in place to protect people from having their products duplicated and sold without giving credit and getting permission from the owner. It used to be that a product was completely physical, and part of the price you paid in stores went towards the physical products materials and packaging. Now, you are basically charged the same price for digital works as physical works. If I want to purchase MW3 online, it will cost $60, the same price it costs if I go and purchase the case, CD, and any other goodies that come with the physical version of the product. Is that fair? If the CD and packaging is worth (lets ballpark) $10 out of that $60 why am I still paying that extra $10 if I download a (legit) digital copy? Same thing for music. If the cd and case is $3, ($8-10 total) why am I STILL paying the same price for the online version? In some cases it is the same with ebooks. Normal Ebooks cost $5-7, not bad, but about the same price as a paperback. Whereas special ebooks like Information Security books actually cost the same as their physical counterparts.

    My point is, if companies want to squeeze me for every penny by claiming that the “Digital license” is the same price as the physical version (and I can RESELL the physical version, but not the digital version) why should I respect them and their claims?

    “But your not hurting the companies your hurting the artists” Bullsh*t. How much do the artists get paid? A ton right? That’s NOTHING compared to the distribution companies.

    Or someone else argued that if everybody downloads it nobody will actually pay. Go online, and find out how some of these movies did IN THEATERS. Sometimes revenue actually EXCEEDS the cost of the movie ON THE FIRST WEEK (or in some cases, the first day)! IDK about you, but I still go to the movies. I still go to concerts. I still fork over $20-40 to see my favorite bands play live. Whereas I might purchase a CD for $8 and get the same songs, if I go to the house of blues and see Bad Religion play it’ll cost me $20-30 and a good portion of that doesn’t even go to the band!

    my point is, this whole clusterf*ck has gotten so muddled that we need to flesh out laws that protect EVERYONE, not just distribution companies. Also, these companies need to stay on the RIGHT SIDE of the law (sony rootkit, anyone?) in order to protect their interests, otherwise they are no better than the people they label as “pirates”.

    Until large corporations care about the little people (and the artists and developers), I don’t care about them. I do however care about the artists. And there are artists on both sides of this debate as well. Many companies pursue pirates in the name of artists interests, WITHOUT talking to the artist! Some artists and developers have even come out and said “just torrent it” – Notch, or have rebuked their distribution companies for pursuing ridiculous lawsuits.

    IF you want me to pay a decent price for a digital work, fine. Just don’t expect me to shell out the same amount for digital works as a physical works. ‘Cause I know a place where it is faster and easier to obtain it.

  • Ravkni

    This is serious invasion of privacy.

  • Rockstare

    So when they say after the 5th offense the content holder can pursue legal recourse, is it 5th offense against that content owner? Or 5th across ANY content owner?

  • http://www.facebook.com/kelly.brookman.7 Kelly Brookman

    Verizon best be damned careful about how they proceed. Especially since in many FIOS homes around here they were originally setting up people’s wireless routers with the MAC as the password (i.e. a useless password). Since they were the ones who did the configuration and setup in these homes they are responsible for anyone who can logon to those easily identifiable and easily accessed connections since the password is the MAC as configured and turned over to the customer.

  • fuck’em

    I hope one of the 1st people to get wrongly accused and redirected to their educational page sues their ass.

  • mmm

    Just use PEERBLOCK it is free and works!

  • DZPJ

    I would switch out of AT&T but dang grandparents refuse to switch,cause they have to change their phone number and stuff,and they need to keep em in order to take car of business,and bills,and if they changed it there would be hell….so im fucked out that option…..im ashamed of being born in such a idiotic generation,they really need to give this up…
    those fat cats of MPAA and RIAA don’t even need more control….
    What a pack of fascists and hypocrites.

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