Canada Proposes Draconian Anti-Piracy Law
Written by Ben Jones on June 12, 2008Canada, one of the shining lights in the copyright and intellectual property world, has a shadow approaching that may dim that for all. The name of that shadow? Bill c-61, which was formally introduced by Industry minister Jim Prentice an hour or two ago. One of the ‘highlights’ is the abolition of court’s flexibility in statutory damages, fixing it at $500 (CAD)
The bill, dubbed the ‘Canadian DMCA’ has not been popular with many of those it will effect. Over 40,000 have joined a facebook group, run by Michael Geist opposing it. Geist, a law professor at University of Ottawa, has been fighting to oppose these laws for some time now. On the tabling of the bill, he writes “The government plans for second reading at the next sitting of the house, effectively removing the ability to send it to committee after first reading (and therefore be more open to change)”
The bill is controversial in many ways. Whilst supporters of the bill will point to the allowances for time shifting, format shifting, and the ability to ‘private copy’ (moving a song from CD to an mp3 player for instance). It will, however, prevent that activity, though criminalization, if there is any sort of technological restriction on it. Anti-copy flags on TV shows, DRM on music, or rootkits on CDs would mean that any attempt to make a fair use, would be subject to prosecution and heavy fines.
Perhaps even more important, uploaders, and to an extent, downloaders too (certainly those on torrents), will now be liable. While in the past, the RMCP has stated it won’t pursue uploaders, with new laws come changes in policy for those that enforce the laws. Bill C-61 contains a statutory damage amount of $500.
Limitation
(1.If a copyright owner has made an election under subsection (1), a defendant who is an individual is liable for statutory damages of $500 in respect of all the defendant’s infringements that were done for the defendant’s private purposes and that are involved in the proceedings.
This is a change from the previous wording, which gave the court latitude to drop that $500 to as low as $200.
Scene members, and torrent sites will also find themselves under increasing pressure. Despite claims that most torrent sites are not commercial, it’s not stopped industry associations from claiming they are, in order to get law enforcement action against them. From the act,
Circumvention of technological measure
(3.1) Every person, except a person who is acting on behalf of a library, archive or museum or an educational institution, is guilty of an offence who knowingly and for commercial purposes contravenes section 41.1 and is liable(a) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding $1,000,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both; or
(b) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding $25,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to both.
Although DRM has seen a decline in recent times, laws like this can only give content distributors incentive to bring them back, at least in Canada.
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wow…
We’re boned!
Canadians are the mexicans of the english-speaking world.
shit.
any info on who to contact to complain about this?
When will these torrent sites learn to get out of the US and EU !!
The US is making laws in Canada now. Apparently the Minister of Industry here in Canada is only good for dodging questions and taking ass slaps from US Lobbyists.
I’d be dumbfounded if this ever left the proposal stage.
For one thing, so many people would be guilty under this law that it would essentially be unenforcable.
For another, it vialotes so many fundamental Canadian rights that it couldn’t possibly fucking last long before about 90% of it would be repealed.
It’s like trying to make jaywalking punishable by huge fines and/or criminal conviction. Even if bullshit like that could somehow get off the ground, it would be one short flight before the nosedive.
P.S. I’m not even humouring “your response is awaiting moderation” anymore.
It is doubtful that this will become law. Parliament is rising for their summer break. We are also looking at a fall election. This bill will die on the order paper. The other point to be made is no company is going to spend $20,000 in lawyers fees to try and get $500 for somebody torrenting. The fines are aimed at the big boys who are into wholesale duplication for large financial gain. If they want to sue me, they can go right ahead. I am lucky in that I am a disabled person living on a disability pension and my income is exempt from garnishee. I will continue to wave the Pirate flag. Basically, nothing has changed. How very typical of Canada. We appear to appease the US, but give them the finger in our own way.
I used to like Canada and their system of government… They had a chance to go the way of Sweden, but unfortunately, they got screwed by some US cash hogs.
Damn it.
By the way these potential fines are in Civil court, not criminal court. The police have no jourisdiction in home torrenting for personal use where monetary gain is not an issue.
THIS BILL MUST DIE!! MUST BE QUASHED…
FUCK THE CANADIAN DMCA!
@10… They will have the ability to wreak havoc (which they can’t do now) …. Wait til Rogers\Bell gets asked for details on somebody… I bet theyll “give in” if this bill is passed..
I sent an email voicing my displeasure to the Prime Minister, his monkey Prentice, the opposition leaders and my resident backbencher.
Like they’ll do anything…
How is the file-sharing voting power?
Send a letter to your local MP
tp://www.onlinerights.ca/get_active/copyright_for_canadians/action.php
Fight the cause
Join the facebook group for more info on what you can do to stop this!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683
40,000 people publicly against this bill,
election around the corner
pass this bill = political suicide
“The US is making laws in Canada now. Apparently the Minister of Industry here in Canada is only good for dodging questions and taking ass slaps from US Lobbyists.”
@ #7 – I couldn’t have said it any better then you did.
Mother fuckers need to stop fucking around with other countries. Canada is NOT part of the US and will never be.
You got copyright problems in your own country? That’s not our problem. Stop trying to pressure countries around the world to pass laws that we don’t want to pass.
Just send over a letter, directly to your MP.
I’ll even make it easy for you
http://www.onlinerights.ca/get_active/copyright_for_canadians/action.php
will not pass…and furthermore will not stand in court.
The Senate will sit on this and if..IF it passes the courts will overthrow it as it is a very poorly written bill and in some instances does not make sense (you can own a cd but cannot transfer songs onto your MP3 player?)
So I think everyone should start a library in Canada. Librarians can do it all they want, and as long as it solely stays on your computer and there’s no proof you made any money you should be okay.
Regardless this is such a piece of crap, someone should light the bill on fire, then there’s nothing to debate over. And if it’s saved to someone’s computer, throw a strong magnet into it to wipe the HDD and break anything else in there.
already written to my MP
lobbies & the rich are pushing their luck.
until their heads end up on spikes.
the revolution is coming
a bill can appear in canada in front of congress without being approved by anyone.
that’s why the legalization of marijuana is “seen by congress” very often in canada, but gets shot down long before it gets that far in the US.
for all we know, this means nothing as of right now.
As usual the U.S. think that everyone should be on board with them. They bully other countries with their threats, and they expect everyone to follow suit. Hard to understand why the U.S. is so hated in many other parts of the world isn’t it?
Let me clear up the fines sections.
Lets say you get a flac tune or some tune that has DRM on it.
if its been removed when you got it you have to prove that. and thats a 20,000 fine
if you cant and have software on your machine that can do this , that is illegal and is another 20,000 Fine.
the 500$ fine there is some fine print about the notice and notice that allows that 500$ fine to grow to almost 10000$
so each infringment gets you 50,000
Can’t pay a fine in canada?
its currently 1 day in jail per 10$.
Thats 5000 days or 13.6 years in jail for each music tune you get.
OH and add another 20,000 for ripping that cracked music tune onto an ipod as your also violating the lock and placing it there.
P.S.
the above states that OR BOTH for the 1million fine and 5 years
the fine itself when not paid = 100,000 days in jail if you cant pay it so the possibilities are form 5 years to 273 years.
HECK i might as well apply to the hells angels none a them has ever got such a sentance
murderers don’t get that much for killing half a dozen people!!!!!!!!
and to the guy on disability 500$ or more if you dont pay a fine you do 1 day per 10$ of fines
thats how it works
tactics = scare = less p2p = happy riaa
Unbelievable, i hate to sound like one of those crazy conspiracy nut jobs but its a mighty big coincidence how just days apart two of the MAFIAA’s biggest countries are proposing privacy busting draconian laws (in the first case Sweden’s stasi like law which will be voted on the 17th of June and the second this). I wonder how much the powers that be paid these low life scumbag politicians… but i imagine they must be thinking: cheap at any price.
Only two things left to be done, we have to have strong encryption on p2p and two: someone needs to take a baseball bat and rearrange some of these bastards faces.
Cheers!
w w w . e z e e . s e – Copyright is copyWRONG
“So I think everyone should start a library in Canada. Librarians can do it all they want, and as long as it solely stays on your computer and there’s no proof you made any money you should be okay.”
Yeah, I like that idea.
Or else incorporate and let the business own the boxes, and let it be liable. Just be sure to sell sole ownership to some poor old age pensioner in a bar (whether he knows it or not).
As for the uploading, well, if you live in a city, wireless solves that problem.
Glad I’m not Canadian :-)
> “It is doubtful that this will become law. Parliament is rising for their summer break. We are also looking at a fall election.”
If all major parties support it… What can be done?
> “a bill can appear in canada in front of congress without being approved by anyone.”
Canada does not have a congress.
Murderer will get somewhere around 10 years right?
Typical Canadian pols,
squeezing the proverbial
gout tit when the RIAA
prods them with cash.
Sometimes I’m sad to be an American. :(
ahhh everyone is crying hahahaha all of you just get ready for the end of the world instead of this
2nd. d. murderers get life with no prowl for 25 years.. and present your prowl case after the prowl board.. if they think you are not a threat to society.. then they will let you go.. with restrictions like house arrest or not being allowed in public places or to report weekly to the police office… or anything crazy.. i think no one gets total prowl.. if on prowl and commit a crime.. well dude your not coming out of that jail.. for life.
and small time things like drugs or drinking and driving are not a big deal.. in canada… and if ur a immigrant.. well Bye Bye you are going back to your country.. and stay in there jail..
anyways.. i am not starting utorrent until this gets sorted out. FUCK conservatives and there rich CEOs…
End of the world is nice thing. ^.^
So who benefits from this ? the consumer? I think not even though they want you to think so
I seriously dont under stand what government is doing protecting copyrights
It not their buisness
to poster #30. Any sane judge in this country would take one look at the charges, look at me and throw the case out. That is how it really works. Parliament creates the laws, but the Courts interperate it according to Law. That law is called Case Law. That is the real law, not some scrip written by the government. Also, our judges are more human than those hang ‘em high servants of the corporations down there in Yankee Doodle Land.
there is not death sentence in canada ffs
LOLz its funny to see how much these fat americans know about canada lols
This will not be passed.
“….which was formally introduced by Industry minister Jim Prentice…..”
Another amoral politician on the industry payroll. Hope the bribe was worth it, Prentice. You just went to the top of about 50 million shitlists.
Not to mention the target on your back. Can you say “Career Over”?
I knew you could.
“You shall not pass” ;)
It is the solution of a bunch of old men who do not understand how technology works or shifts in society. Put together a half decent distribution system with fair pricing models and I think a lot of their current problems will disappear.
It comes down to supply and demand
The underground provides
Back libraries
high quality files
and drm free files
while the industry does not
American lobbys trump the people again…
WTF THATS ONLY SUPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THE USA!!!!
The higher they climb, the harder they fall.
Well I guess im going to prison CUZ I AINT PAYING BITCH. See you all in Kingston Penitentiary
Maybe this will become one of those laws which are not enforced. After all, don’t the police decide who is charged with what? Half the time they won’t even attend a real crime scene, at least until the potential danger has passed.
$500 would be worth what? 5 days in jail? I’m sure they’d increase that to make it a less appealing option. Probably add other impositions to it as well.
In any case even a short visit to prison may be an Aids sentence.
This bill is fucking retarded. I hope they get their butts kicked because to this!
Although I don’t feel this will pass, I blame all of my fellow Canadians who thought that electing Steven “Suck Bush’s Cock” Harper would be a good idea. You’ve royally fucked over a once-great country.
The Canadian DMCA: Check the Fine Print:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3025/
Copyright law could result in police state: critics
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/12/tech-copyright.html
What really has to be done is for file-sharers to be more vocal and have more voting power.
Like i said before all the 40,000 +++ people mentioned above all dropping their plans to “high speed lite” or worse – dial up overnight will change things very quickly. Rogers or Bell would have a vested interest in Lobbying against the bill themselves!
Most do not need high speed or Ultra high speed if they aren’t file sharing!!!
Holly shit hope this assholes doesnt pass this bill…. We need to fight for our rights. As a future Musician me and my band are considering to distribute our music through torrenting sites. It’s not about money, (money that musicians doesnt even get for their sales, cz those fucking hungry-for-money-pigs producers get them all) is about get listened by people is about doing concerts (if ur interested in getting money) its just art shit, they need to understand that.
Can’t I just say I am archiving for my own person archive?
Or my own personal library on media that has effected my life.
in response to
“(3.1) Every person, except a person who is acting on behalf of a library, archive or museum or an educational institution, is guilty of an offence who knowingly and for commercial purposes contravenes section 41.1 and is liable”
Blame Canada… ;P
scaremonger tactics….as #8 said its unenforceable. Prob only be used for the big time commercial pirates
Just to reinforce that this bill will not be passed. The government is currently a minority (not that most people here will know what that means), and that, along with a tonne of other reasons, ensures that this bill will not be passed.
Chill people. Chill.
And just when I was going to turn around and sell the universe..
Actually, I wasn’t, not because of this law, but because I’d be infringing on NASA copyright.
JESUS CANADA, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?!?!?!?
Get yourself an free premium RapidShare account! :)
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No more vote for Conversvative party
it look like the canadian government try to get this bill pass under the nose of canadian people.
@ 66
It’s certainly because of cowards like you that those mofos politicians are finding it easy to pass any daft law.
Do not run and hide, RESIST AND FIGHT BACK!
Like seriously if you meet someone who voted conservative just punch them in the face.
Canadian downloaders, here’s what you can do about this issue before it’s too late:
1) Get educated:
CBC news: http://tinyurl.com/5wewyx
2) Join the facebook group “Fair Copyright for Canada”
http://tinyurl.com/2r6z6q
3) *MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL*, email your MP about it! (it takes 1 minute!)
http://tinyurl.com/428rbx
If you don’t, you risk being fined $20,000 for making a backup copy of a DVD you’ve already purchased! $500 for copying MP3s you already owned! And this is just the tip of the iceberg!
Sounds to me like Canada needs to CHILL OUT! LEt the music be FREE
JT
http://www.FireMe.To/udi
“Canadians are the mexicans of the english-speaking world.”
You’re right… like the Mexicans we keep getting fucked over by the greedy assholes stuck between our 2 countries and constantly have have their pathetic excuse for a culture shoveled on top of us.
Hey Canada – Why all the hate towards the USA? Seriously. I don’t get it. Canada is a great country, but so is the USA. Blaming the states for everything is just silly..Silly like Spike Lee using the plantation rebuttal against Clint Eastwood. Its really getting old, and doesn’t hold much merit.
I would imagine people using “safe” anonymous proxy servers like BTGuard based in Canada are feeling a little anxious!
by trev1604
“I would imagine people using “safe” anonymous proxy servers like BTGuard based in Canada are feeling a little anxious!”
Sounds like the “Canadian Gout Tit”
to me. :)
If only the media groups in Canada like Rogers and Global could get their heads out of their asses, and allow us to view content that is freely available in the US or the UK – or allow us a fair and equal pricing for media made outside our borders, then the issue of downloads would be reduced.
I still do not understand why a CD costs $16 dollars in Canada or why it is triple the cost to buy a season of Colbert Report on apple iTunes.
Other than Greed and the continued efforts by business in Canada to screw us at all costs, regardless of our dollar’s strength.
I have sent a request to oppose this law project to my deputy.
Write to your PM! Here you can sign and send a letter : http://onlinerights.ca/
I have already reduced the number of movies I watch from almost 4 movies a week to only 1 or 2 a month and the number of cd’s I buy from 20 – 30 a year down to just a couple. All because of industry greed.
It is my way of boycotting the industry in a way. A way to prove a point.
If these harsh and unrealistic copyright laws come into effect I will find artists who are lesser known, who are out on their own not associated with the recording or motion picture industries. I will listen to radio instead. I will find other sources.
The industries do not understand that they need us. They need consumers to purchase their wares in order to stay viable. When will they get it through their heads that we will pay for content. Even if it is over priced at times. But WE WANT THAT CONTENT ON OUR TERMS. No we don’t intend to sell it or profit from it illegally. We want to take it with us. Back up something we have invested so much time and money into. We want to rebuild a list of our favorite songs.
Having said that I believe there is a long hard fight ahead of us where copyrights are concerned. If it comes down to it I will just stop buying what they are selling.
Not that I agree with this at all, because I’m 100% against it, you have to admit, 500$ CAN a pop is a little better than 1300$ US per mp3 as many of the settled cases have been.
Don’t worry, it’s not like they already locked down our hardware and software, and are in the process of locking down the WEB and making it a pay-per-view service only offering access to a few selected commercial sites.
Oh wait, it’s exactly like that.
We’re boned indeed.
And for those of you thinking this will never pass.
I said the same thing about the anti-camming laws, and they did. I said the same thing about the secret deal to allow us troops to operate on canadian soil and vice versa, and it was signed.
You’ve got to get out of the mindset that makes you think the government gives 2 shits about you, or our country, they don’t.
As long as the US and Canada are major trading partners, our government will always cave in to US demands.
This is the sole reason the decriminalization of marijuana bill was left out to die. Just like this case, the people showed their support for it, and the government ignored us as usual and did whatever Paul Martin’s little pea-sized brain told him.
Now we’ve got Stephen ‘haven’t seen me in public since the election’ Harper blowing off any US government agent that comes (pardon the pun) his way.
It’s sickening, demand action. Stop the SPP, stop Internet2.0 and for the love of god, stop the Canadian DMCA
Yeah, free music is great, but what intelligent person on Earth would call a $500 fine a draconian measure?
Free stuff is great while it last, but don’t expect it forever. That’s just naive.
Grow up and pay for your music bitches, like you have to for everything else. It’s called capitalism. Get used to it, crybabies.
@ 82
You piece of shite, how much do you earn a month? A bloody CD costs around 15 € here in Europe, do you think it’s normal or you’re just trolling like a brainless cunt?
Analog is just an attention grabber. Who goes to a site named TORRENTFREAK and starts complaining about the legalities of Torrents? Attention whores do. Everyone is on the same wavelength with this bill. No one wants it. Let’s just hope Big Business Americas monetary influences don’t end up stripping us of our privacy and freedom.
*a*ffect. not *e*ffect.
Just FYI.
Did you read the fine print?
I don’t live in Canada but based on other comments on the fine print, its alot more than $500/song.
Its $500 a song for starters, and more for “breaking DRM”, or other things.
Sadly I live in the USA (where the ratio of lobbyists to representatives are almost 60:1….)
That $500 fine could increase to $20,000 if you upload a file. With Torrents you upload as soon as you have a decent amount of the file, so… I’d expect more fines closer to $20k than $500.
Send a letter to Prentice, Verner and Harper and tell them you oppose Bill C-60. Here is the easiest way to send your letter – http://www.ccer.ca/send-a-letter-to-harper-prentice-verner-and-stop-the-canadian-dmca/
CCER will even mail a hard copy of your letter for you on your behalf.
Wow… I just read that and it’s unbelievable… The law keep on taking the side of the industry, leaving the consumers alone in the dark. Damn the Bill C-61!
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=2333919&Language=e&Mode=1&File=27
no need to worry, this will not get passed and if it does I watched an interview where he dodged every question on how it could possibly be enforeced
“anyways.. i am not starting utorrent until this gets sorted out. FUCK conservatives and there rich CEOs…”
The bill is not passed yet, so torrents are still legal, although barely if you look at how Bell & Rogers are throttling BT trafic. If this bill passes and the CRTC allows continued throttling, they will step by step eliminate all P2P so the only option are their own for-profit download systems, digital cable or satelite TV.
Further, this bill is about much more than just downloading, it is about how we use what we already own! This bill would allow content distributors to dictate what we can and can’t do with our digital files, criminalizing millions of Canadians in the process. It’s hard to see it as enforceable, but it’s just like the Conservatives to try.
I’m with # 80 on this one, looking to support the producers who have chosen to distribute freely. It’s not to say that liberating the for-profit content isn’t a worthy act, but also we must elevate those who are already on our side!
[REPEAT POST] The RIAA, MPAA, CRIA, DCMA – still don’t get it … they still haven’t learned that by angering your consumer base, you’re effectively cutting yourself off at the knees … economically speaking, its very bad practice to try to force your product upon consumers – more often than not, you’ll just drive them away to your competition … is it any wonder that they are so hated on the worldwide internet community? Don’t they understand that they’re getting their own consumer base stacked up against them, just looking for alternate means of getting around their antiquated business plan …
The facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683) has grown by over seven thousand people since this new tabling of the bill was announced this week. If even a fraction of those now 48 000 people take the time to speak up to Minister Prentice and their local MP, then the bill already has one foot in the ground!
This is the end of the Internet! That means there is no longer any need for me to have a high-speed account! The only thing according to this law which will be legal is to read on-line! And even that won’t be free, soon everyone will want to charge an access fee just to enter their website!
I have done nothing wrong by downloading TV shows like Law & Order once they’ve aired! This law means that if you want to record TV shows for your own private library, you must download shows directly from your own VCR or DVD recordable player! This law makes it illegal for me to download episodes of already aired TV shows! I understand if it’s a huge show like Lost and somehow future unaired episodes have been leaked to public torrent sites. The producers have put alot of money into each episode but once it’s aired on TV, why can’t I download the episode?
Sucks Ass big time…..
These are dangerous times people, anyone heard of the domino effect?
I just thought of the answer, just as people who have tons of money and want to keep their bank accounts and bank transaction private, have gone to the Caribbean. This law can only work if you have a Canadian ISP, the government will force all ISPs to have spyware in order to catch users from using torrents or downloading from usenet sites.
If somebody was really smart they’d setup an ISP in the Caribbean and target it specifically for North Americans. So now, even though you’re downloading & uploading using torrents or are directly downloading via usenet, your ISP is not Canadian! Thus they don’t have to comply to Canadian or U.S. Internet laws!
I say good-bye Canada, welcome to the Caribbean islands!
I wrote Prentice and Harper. After this bill was introduced I got an email thanking me for my input and telling me how this was a “Made in Canada” solution to modernizing copyrights.
All this has done is increase torrent downloads exponentially in Canada, as most Canadians are stealing as much as they can as fast as they can before it’s “criminal.”
I didn’t think my ISP could handle a 17 gig audio collection, but it will be one of many in the coming months.
Thanks Jimmy my boy, you’ve made my online theft that much more aggressive.
sending e-mails is a good start to stopping this bill from getting any farther. But it is very easy for the government staff viewing them to delete. how many of you actually think harper is going to see these e-mails?
They have paid staff to deal with that.
flood them with snail mail also any letters to parliament hill do not require postage. and hard copy are hard to go unnoticed.
or we could set up a date to protest on the grounds in Ottawa with enough voting member knocking at their door they will have to take notice and won’t be able to just sweep it under the carpet.
America is the Mexico of the Spanish speaking world.
bet they’d [try at least] to use the riot police on you though…..think of that, “democracies” unleashing riot police on peaceful protests….not that far fetched if it involves lobbyists actually…
Umm.. it used to be a max fine of 20000 for each individual infringement and now it will be 500 for all infringements, I don’t see the big deal, the cops aren’t going to change their policies anyway. Wake up paranoids…
from what I’ve seen on the facebook page there is a lot of talk about synced protest in major cites the day before the bill gets voted on and on that day.
I’m going to show my support If there is a protest I’ll be there.
and riot police will just give the story a bigger push, that would not be in the best interests of the government
@102 try reading into it a little more
The worst of the Bill is that it makes its balancing provisions irrelevant. The Bill basically says that technology trumps whatever rights consumers or competitors might have otherwise had. So the law no longer matters. People only have whatever rights content owners choose for them.
For instance, if the CD you’re now allowed to shift to your iPod is technologically locked down, then, well, you’re completely out of luck. Try to circumvent the access and copy controls, and the well-publicized provision to limit damages to $500 for non-commercial infringements no longer applies. You’re on the hook for up to $20,000 per infringement, which is actually $60,000 per song by the time you account for the composer, performer and record label. Multiply that by a dozen or so and you get a sense of the damage awards really possible if this Bill becomes law.
Canada is following the states NO STRENGHT at all
Im pissed off
Sounds like someone in the Canadian government has too much spare time on their hands OR they are in the DCMAs back pocket (on the payroll) LOL.
JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com
WOW! unbeliveable! It’s not fair :(
World is gone insane!
Review community
It is a well known fact that the RCMP opposes copyright control, so I am still confused as to why this bill is even being considered. I am fairly certain that this thing won’t pass, but please take action anyway and contact your local MP and explain to them why you think this proposed legislation is ridiculous!
> “bet they’d [try at least] to use the riot police on you though…..think of that, “democracies” unleashing riot police on peaceful protests….not that far fetched if it involves lobbyists actually…”
Montebello…
It’s kind of a way of invading our privacy because they have to get some “hints” from our ISPs to determine we’re undertaking any such actions. Lame, lame… -.-
to say that it definitely wont pass is most likely true. to say that if it does pass that the courts will throw it out, also most likely true. however you forget our country is becoming more corrupt everyday. have you seen the alberta premier’s and MLA’s new salaries? the bottom line is dont underestimate what money can do. the american movie and music industry has ALOT of money, and money eventually changes the minds of politicians.
fight this bill now, dont sit back and hope that reason and common sense will prevail. sometimes it doesn’t.
Fines of 1,000,000… oh, nice…
even though the max for “users” is 500 or 200…
And declining the “second read right”, isn’t something like this against “the law”? If no, it should, ’cause this is clearly not 100% legal and normal…
lol, with killing one might get over with 5 years. Have you seen Equilibrium ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/ )
? We tend to that direction.
Culture, religian, feelings etc will all be banned.
sorry for Canada, they fought so hard.
so from now on many spies ( police ) will be more often in the libraries ? lol
there trying to pass bs laws like this yet won t do jack shyt about young offenders or real criminals that rob us steal from us and maybe even end up killing someone what a friggin joke this countrys become
That is GREAT news, it’s about bloody time too :)
Wow, umm, Mr Prentice? Im Canadian, a taxpayer and I refuse to allow my tax dollars to be used to criminalize me. The Conservatives are screwed come next election, anyhow. So the worst case scenario, this happens for a couple years and it becomes an election issue. Welcome to Sweden, Mr. Prentice. You created an activist out of me with this. Way to Gomer…
When exactly this new law will be voted or when it will be in effect.
http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/action/firstlook/
I think that the copyright act needs to be amended although I am a frequent user of p2p I believe that it cannot be lawless! Digital Rights need to be discussed. The bill proposes a $500 infringement fee which I can see will stop “Private users from infringing through p2p” Which is a small but effective measure. On the other hand the effects on sites like youtube or other sites which stream content could be extremely complicated. I don’t think there is an easy fix. Although the only thing that will put the new act to the test is if a precedent in court is made. Most courts use reasonable measures and may not even charge a person who infringes this law. It will be interesting to see the first case brought and fought in court!
I can’t believe all the people on this site who believe that digital content should be free! That’s stupid, yet at the same time paying an exuberant amount for something or a copy of something is stupid…there needs to be a median of thought…If you are interested in the complexities of the issue and not such a one sided stance read “Morality Law and Cyberspace”!
How do they know if you are downloading? How do they catch and fine you?
Are they passed the new copyright/download law or not yet?
Wait i’m confused has this law come into affect or has’nt it:S
Stop the Sorcerer’s Prentice!!!!!
This is just another tax grab. Canada now has too many laws and they are unable to enforce them as well as the public can no longer comprehend or know the existing laws. Our privacy laws are a joke. There is no such thing as privacy any longer,Canada is no longer the freedom country we fought for.Canadians have become wimps. Our
politicians have lost their respect aand are only another gang of ttakers.Gilbert Murphy plainly said iit as reported in Edmonton Journal
July 28-2008.
Re: Elected officials, most people running for office as couillors, mayors,reeves etc. appear to have little backbone. They seem to lose their ability to perform according to the promises they promote before being elected, the existing legislation that they assume and the bureacracy that is in place confuses them and they become drones of the system, told to heel and follow orders. Few break these bonds, but congratulations to those that do- and think and act for themselves, even if your colleyuges try to embarass you.
is it illegal still if you dowloaded before the bill?
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