Help Steal This Film Win $30K
Written by Ernesto on April 17, 2008The filesharing documentary Steal This Film has been a great success. Yet, despite millions of downloads and a lot of support from the P2P community, they admit they haven’t yet covered the costs of producing STF II. There is hope though.
Steal This Film Part 1 was mostly about the raid on The Pirate Bay and its aftermath. Part 2 however, views filesharing from a broader perspective and looks into the historical dimension of this movement. The film features admins from The Pirate Bay and Mininova, among others.
The League of Noble Peers, creators of Steal This Film, have been very upbeat about donations to the project and the possibilities of P2P for creativity. However, despite hundreds of donations, the project still isn’t out of the red yet. All is not lost, though. Fans of the Steal This Film series have another chance to help the Peers as they raise money to continue the project.
Steal This Film II is currently running 3rd in the Babelgum Online Film Festival’s documentary category. Babelgum is a Joost-like service that allows you watch free and full length videos, full screen.
Babelgum will add up the votes of users from their professional jury to find three films in each category to be judged by Spike Lee. If they win their category, the Peers stand to win $30,000 (EU20,000) towards the project.
All you have to do to help is download the client, search for “Steal This Film” and cast your vote to let the jury know what you think.
“It sucks to have to download a client, we know, but the cash would come in handy for the next phase of the film,’ said Jamie King of the League of Noble Peers. “And it would be fun to meet Spike - we dug ‘25th Hour‘! Big thanks to anyone who takes time out to lend us their support again.”
Of course, Steal This Film remains free to download and redistribute at stealthisfilm.com. For those who haven’t seen it yet, it’s a must watch.
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uh. Download a client.. Maybe tomorrow..
I might if they did a Linux version, but I’m not running microshaft just to help, sorry.
Haha, isn’t this only proving against all pirates “belives” ?
Don’t get me wrong here, I’m actually a pirate myself with accounts everywhere, leeching, but seriously.. Everyone’s excusing themselfes with “if ppl would’ve just uploaded movies/music for free, we could donate or something, and that way it would go around!”
So… Now, a movie, made for pirates by pirates, with the ability to donate, haven’t even recieved enuf money to just cover their damn expenses for the movie! Hahaha, and ppl are still pullin’ the old “they could earn big cash on donating!”
Sorry, but here on, from now on, that argument is, and will always be invalid. When the “”biggest”" pirate-themed movie doesn’t recieve enuf, and have to ask all to click on a link to give them a vote so they could actually get some money back.. hahaha, epic fail for the entire pirate community.
I’m ashamed, but I haven’t even watched nor leeched this, so I didn’t donate either, and I’m feeling fine :)
Heh I can’t really afford to donate so I think downloading a client is a fair enough alternative to still support them :) Think of it as a donation ;)
[quote]I might if they did a Linux version, but I’m not running microshaft just to help, sorry.[/quote]
Same here.
Why is it that everything you want to donate to only has a PayPal account? I really don’t like PayPal and cancelled my account a long time ago…
I guess I’ll try downloading this crazy Babelgum thing.
I loved the Babelgum client actualy, think it was an awesome program :)
It only took 2 mins.
Looking forward for the next movie!
I aint goona download anything.. Just give me Voting URL and i will fucking vote for these great dudes :)
Windows only? What the fuck?
For a project like Babelgum, which promotes itself as free and alternative, it’s pretty closed and exclusive minded not to offer clients for free and alternative OSs.
[quote comment="349684"]Haha, isn’t this only proving against all pirates “belives” ?
Don’t get me wrong here, I’m actually a pirate myself with accounts everywhere, leeching, but seriously.. Everyone’s excusing themselfes with “if ppl would’ve just uploaded movies/music for free, we could donate or something, and that way it would go around!”
So… Now, a movie, made for pirates by pirates, with the ability to donate, haven’t even recieved enuf money to just cover their damn expenses for the movie! Hahaha, and ppl are still pullin’ the old “they could earn big cash on donating!”
Sorry, but here on, from now on, that argument is, and will always be invalid. When the “”biggest”" pirate-themed movie doesn’t recieve enuf, and have to ask all to click on a link to give them a vote so they could actually get some money back.. hahaha, epic fail for the entire pirate community.
I’m ashamed, but I haven’t even watched nor leeched this, so I didn’t donate either, and I’m feeling fine :)[/quote]
You have forgotten that money is not the end-all of it. Money is not the important part of things - it is the spirit and meaning of the movie that matters most. Those who wish to express the message will pay the most expense, because the message itself covers the cost alone.
Other than that, perhaps the best way of doing this is not to pay all this money to make a movie and expect donations later, but rather make a movie based on donations.
@11 34g34
“… but rather make a movie based on donations.”
Then you’re back to venture capitalism.
“Installing bubelgum requires admin rights”
:-(
I am at home, but do not want to use admin rights for this.
Tried 3 times, each time the downloaded archive is corrupted :(
Found out what the trouble is, the link in the post was for the MacOS version. I didn’t even check because I assumed it was the Win one.
I do agree that it isn’t good that they haven’t gotten more donations. We really should help out, though unfortunately many people who are pirates just don’t have a lot of money.
No version of this client for linux?
[quote comment="349750"]@11 34g34
“… but rather make a movie based on donations.”
Then you’re back to venture capitalism.[/quote]
It was always venture capitalism. Those who are interested in movies and want movies made will be willing to pay, and it is these payments which sustain the ability for people to spend much in the process of making movies. However, people will be willing to pay more before the movie is made, rather than after, because if the movie is already made, then there is no need to worry about the making or the quality of the movie, since it is already there, whereas people will be more willing to offer up money if they think that it will actually affect the result rather than merely to cover the expenses in someone’s pocketbook.
umm.. why would you donate to something that isn’t done? if it’s a sequel i understand, but still..
i liked their documentaries but i feel it’s more important to donate to trackers and game developers. i believe that most pirates feel the same, unless you’re a documentary freak.
[quote comment="349785"]umm.. why would you donate to something that isn’t done? if it’s a sequel i understand, but still..
i liked their documentaries but i feel it’s more important to donate to trackers and game developers. i believe that most pirates feel the same, unless you’re a documentary freak.[/quote]
To make sure that it will be done, and done with better quality.
Ok, I install the client. Then I search the movie. Then it starts to be very slow. Then it almost not react. Then I want to vote. You have to know then in which category it is. Its not mentioned in the details gained by rigthclicking after a general search. How the hell can I then vote? in the vote screen I cant search. Their are 1000’s of movies in the competition, I don’t go to search them manually! I have deinstalled the client again.
@18 34g34″
It was always venture capitalism. Those who are interested in movies and want movies made will be willing to pay, and it is these payments which sustain the ability for people to spend much in the process of making movies. …”
You are right. Somewhat. Those who are willing to pay upfront are interested in a movie which does well on the market. That doesn’t mean that it suffers from poor quality but it often suffers from market driven interests. Most low-budget, debut movies that I know have a lot more to tell than following movies by the same directors that are made by Hollywood.
“… However, people will be willing to pay more before the movie is made, rather than after, because if the movie is already made, then there is no need to worry about the making or the quality of the movie, since it is already there, whereas people will be more willing to offer up money if they think that it will actually affect the result rather than merely to cover the expenses in someone’s pocketbook.”
Well, I think you lump together two sorts of interests here. Those you are talking about first are interested in a financial return for their investment. And they do a lot of “mainstreaming” to “affect the result” as you say. Often, more than what’s good for the movie. The Disney stuff is a good example for that.
The moviegoers that are expected to pay after the movie is made, have of course some resposibility to actually pay for the whole show. The investors don’t pay for it, they just lend the money. But as you say yourself the incentive to cover the expenses of Hollywood are pretty low. It’s sad to see that they are pretty low for “Steal This Film” as well.
What I don’t like about the idea of a market driven movie scene, is that the diamonds in the rough get buried under a heap dirt. I had the movie industry in mind, when I was sceptical before. I agree with your argument when those who thrust out the money is the society as a whole. Tax money, so to speak.
[quote comment="349684"]Haha, isn’t this only proving against all pirates “belives” ?
Don’t get me wrong here, I’m actually a pirate myself with accounts everywhere, leeching, but seriously.. Everyone’s excusing themselfes with “if ppl would’ve just uploaded movies/music for free, we could donate or something, and that way it would go around!”
So… Now, a movie, made for pirates by pirates, with the ability to donate, haven’t even recieved enuf money to just cover their damn expenses for the movie! Hahaha, and ppl are still pullin’ the old “they could earn big cash on donating!”
Sorry, but here on, from now on, that argument is, and will always be invalid. When the “”biggest”" pirate-themed movie doesn’t recieve enuf, and have to ask all to click on a link to give them a vote so they could actually get some money back.. hahaha, epic fail for the entire pirate community.
I’m ashamed, but I haven’t even watched nor leeched this, so I didn’t donate either, and I’m feeling fine :)[/quote]
You are new on TF. The donating part is around 60% of the viewers. You have to find enough viewers to get a project around. This being on of the first such projects, is a great step. You forget that total point. I am happy for you, that you are a profiter of all private area’s you are privileged in. I assume you don’t donate here as well? So the community did never profit from you in any way? Then you should be ashamed that you think you are a part of the community. Its al about together. Sharing for all of us.
[quote comment="349709"]I aint goona download anything.. Just give me Voting URL and i will fucking vote for these great dudes :)[/quote]
Rite
[quote comment="349798"]Ok, I install the client. Then I search the movie. Then it starts to be very slow. Then it almost not react. Then I want to vote. You have to know then in which category it is. Its not mentioned in the details gained by rigthclicking after a general search. How the hell can I then vote? in the vote screen I cant search. Their are 1000’s of movies in the competition, I don’t go to search them manually! I have deinstalled the client again.[/quote]
Same here. Although I must say I think it’s a relatively nice app, it could do with a little less cpu/grapics intensivity. Anyway, the film is in the “Documantaries” category, and should show up when searching for it’s title, or simply the word “steal”.
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