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Hurt Locker Lawsuits Hit Canada, ISPs Ordered To Reveal BitTorrent Users

After targeting tens of thousands of U.S. Internet users alleged to have downloaded and shared the Oscar-winning movie The Hurt Locker, the movie’s makers have expanded their settlement business into new territory. Three Canadian ISPs have now been ordered by a court to hand over the personal details of their subscribers to Voltage Pictures.

In March 2010, the law firm Dunlap, Grubb and Weaver imported the mass litigation “pay up or else” anti-piracy scheme to the United States.

Some of the most high-profile customers of the law firm – who for the purposes of their settlement work are known as the U.S. Copyright Group – are Voltage Pictures, the makers of the Oscar-winning Hurt Locker.

Now it seems that the United States just isn’t a big enough market for settlements, so Voltage have taken their pay-up-or-else lawsuits north – and expanded into Canada.

Earlier, through law firm Goudreau Gage Dubuc LLP, Voltage Pictures applied for an order from the Federal Court in Montreal which would force three Canadian ISPs – Bell Canada, Cogeco Cable Inc. and Videotron GP – to hand over the personal details of subscribers said to have infringed its copyrights.

“Voltage Pictures LLC owns the copyright of the film ‘Hurt Locker’. The defendants have copied and distributed the film via the Internet without the permission of Voltage Pictures LLC,” says the order.

Voltage adds that although it has obtained IP addresses, without the help of Canadian ISPs the studio cannot convert them to real-life identities.

“Voltage Pictures LLC requests permission to interview internet service providers in advance in writing so that they disclose the names and addresses of customers who match the IP addresses already obtained,” says Voltage.

“Once it has identified these customers, Voltage Pictures LLC may send notices and, where appropriate, add these individuals as defendants in this action.”

On August 29th, the Federal Court in Montreal granted the order and gave the trio of ISPs just two weeks to hand over the names of subscribers. Since today is September 9th, and the weekend is almost upon us, one might assume that the details have already been handed over, or will be by Monday.

According to Canadian lawyer Michael Geist, there is no indication that the ISPs challenged the court order or that any public interests were given the opportunity to intervene.

“The prospect of thousands of Canadian peer-to-peer file sharing lawsuits – with potential liability of tens of thousands dollars per person for a single movie – highlights why the government was right in Bill C-32 to reform the statutory damages provision to distinguish between commercial and non-commercial infringement,” writes Geist.

“Non-commercial infringement was capped under the bill at $5000 for all infringements, though it can go far lower. This case confirms that mass lawsuits with the threat of thousands in liability is a real possibility in Canada and why changes to the law are needed.”

Canadian Internet users, with their relaxed attitude towards their culture of file-sharing, are likely to be outraged by the action taken by Voltage. Certainly one to watch.

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  • Acce

    I shared this movie when I was a Videotron’s customer! I doubt I’ll get anything! :)

    • Ronald Beacom

      If you have a wireless router you could say it was the neighbor that downloaded it

      • noyb

        I agree they are peeing in the wind. Prove it was them that downloaded it. An ip address is not a fingerprint. Someone in china could have hijacked their computer and downloaded it. Make another movie if you want to generate income and quit trying to sue your audience.

    • Anonymous

      ,.. aweesome,, I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prîces at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for.
      I use EgoWïn.com

    • Videotron user

      Please let us know if you get any letters or phone calls.

  • Anonymous

    ISPs ain’t MAFIAA stormstroopers

    Canadia, tell ‘em all to GTFO … we’re relying on you. Stay the course. If all else fails. Invade.

    • Phillip Ontakos

      (sigh). We’ve already invaded the US, and burnt down The White House…twice. If they haven’t figured it out by now, I don’t think they will.

      • Unrulycanuck

        Actually we were still a British colony at the time when we burnt down the White House.

        • Nomail

          Actually we were still a British colony. Period.

  • Privacy

    Why is TF asking to store offline data now?

    • Ahem!

      +1

      Why?

    • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

      Good question i received the same thing.

    • Anonymous

      https://developer.mozilla.org/en/offline_resources_in_firefox#Specifying_a_cache_manifest

      It’s related to our design upgrade (HTML5 related).. We’re working on a better layout for mobile browsers and smaller screen resolutions. Some settings are stored (in your cache), nothing else.

      I don’t like the notification to be honest, will try to see if there’s a way around it.

      • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

        there are many sites upgrading to html5 yet non of them are requesting the same thing, so why is there a need to store your data onto our systems just for the upgrade.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, we’ll work around it…

        • Guest

          TorrentFreak will take over your computer and send information to MAFIAA.

          /theory

        • Anonymouse

          I have noticed this a bit lately it’s not just TorrentFreak

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      You’re posting off-topic, please send an email to the site instead of contaminating a thread with your paranoid fears.
      *slaps own face (since yours isn’t within reach)

      HINT – at top-right of EVERY page on TF you can click the “Contact” button.

      • Anonymous

        A NewsBits article or a change to the message displayed would be welcome.

        That aside, by posting in here TF staff may have avoided a larger number emails asking about it so I see no harm in the minor deviation from the topic at hand.

      • Battyboy

        If your scottish are you wearing a skirt?

  • Phishybongwaters

    Well it might be wise to point out that Montreal is in Quebec, and Quebec is a nation within Canada. This is why game contests have specific rules for Quebec and in most cases, residents of Quebec can’t take part.

    Meaning….. This ruling really doesn’t mean squat for most of Canada, until a federal decision is made, this is a worrisome sign but nothing more. Sadly, we already know what the federal decision will be, it’s only a matter of time.

    • shampoo

      Wha ? That’s complete nonsense. The reason most contests are void in Quebec is because Quebec has a long series of stringent rules in regards to contests. Quebec being a “Nation” is in wording only. All federal laws apply to Quebec as much as Ontario or any other province. This includes file sharing.

      • http://twitter.com/The_Curiosity The Curiosity

        Quebec operates under some french civil law, the rest of Canada operates under common law. What flies in Quebec doesn’t necessarily fly elsewhere in Canada and vice versa. That is the basis for why Quebec as a “long series of stringent rules in regards to contests” because it is a different civil legal system than the rest of Canada. Same for other things, like privacy rights and property laws.

        • GABAJARIOO

          quebec has its own civil laws (civil law vs common law for the rest of canada) criminal law on the other hand is the same throughout canada. that is how much quebec managed to obtain after the *revolution. that is the deal we got and thats how it is..

        • beanz

          youre wrong, we have our own civil laws here for contests, because unlike the rest of Canada they both Languages on everything here in Quebec, do your research

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCCHWQI5JCL5KB7KCX3MDAZQVY Longnek

          As a Quebec person I can assure you that although technically Quebec operates under federal law, nothing pleases these people more than trying to prove that wrong in reality. Sad, but true.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UCCHWQI5JCL5KB7KCX3MDAZQVY Longnek

          As a Quebec person I can assure you that although technically Quebec operates under federal law, nothing pleases these people more than trying to prove that wrong in reality. Sad, but true.

    • Qaqa

      Read the article again. The decision was made in FEDERAL court…

    • Qaqa

      Read the article again. The decision was made in FEDERAL court…

    • Kebeker

      Phishybongwaters, the reason why Quebec residents can’t take part in contests is because we have something called “Régie des alcools, des courses et des jeux” or if you prefer :”Bureau of Alcohol, races and games” which basically has authority over anything to do with Alcohol licenses (for bars), boxing, horse and car racing, publicity contests and lottery.

      It is an anti-fraud body that makes sure that nobody can fake a contest and run away with the money without paying the winners. It has advantages and disadvantages…

      I guess what you wanted to hint towards is that Quebec uses CIVIL LAW instead of COMMON LAW… The difference is that in a Common Law case the lawyers for both sides will look up case-law to find any precedents to help determine how the court will rule on the case before them. In a Civil Law case, the lawyers and judges will look at the written law (or code) to determine how a court will rule on a particular case.

      So basically they are different in the sense that Common Law will make use of PRECEDENTS in order to reach a verdict while CIVIL Law cases are judged on their own and on the merit of evidence. The advantage is that in Quebec, you can be found not liable in a case where another guy was found liable in an identical case. The inconvenient is that favorable precedents in identical cases are not helpful to you.

      in Quebec, everything comes down to whoever has the most convincing evidence.

    • Ratte Mo

      FEDERAL COURT !!!!! meanning whole of CANADA !!!!! Provincial Court would mean Quebec ONLY

    • Ratte Mo

      FEDERAL COURT !!!!! meanning whole of CANADA !!!!! Provincial Court would mean Quebec ONLY

  • anonymous

    <> Thumbs down for Videotron, Cogeco and Bell for NOT protecting us from those ba$tards…

    At least MY provider seems to care more about those issues of privacy :)

  • Hurtlockersucks

    had i known they were going to bring this bullshit to my country, i would have downloaded/distributed the shit out of this movie instead of buying it (and being ripped of… the movie sucks completely) from the iTunes store.

  • SadQuebecer

    Not a good news… and it was a bad movie !

    I used to receive warnings from videotron about illegal downloading but nothing ever happened, lets hope it will be the same thing this time. And what if im not a videotron client anymore ? could i be sued for something i did 2 years ago ? im not american, do their politics affect me ?

    and this identification request sounds like it again Quebec only, not the rest of Canada.

    • Anonymous

      that’s why they are suing. they didn’t make enough money yet (according to them, anyway)

  • Anonymous

    Good luck Canada.
    I find it hard to believe any of your could have shared this film with your monthly caps.
    Hopefully your Judges will consider the source of the IP information, and the very real possibility of it being inaccurate.
    Stay strong.

    • http://twitter.com/K1rkpad Dylan Kirkpatrick

      Monthly caps? Huh? Shaw has like a 250GB a month limit at 15mbps download speed, and Telus doesn’t even track their 80GB limit.

      Download away, Canadians! And switch to private torrent sites!

  • Gumby Robbery

    yeah thats stupid. your stupid dmca does not cross into other countries, get out of my country assholes.

  • Knef

    With all these lawsuits, crack down etc going on I’m starting to wonder is this world plan of nazi and that it’s an excuse to go spy, tame and oppress the people?

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      YES it is, and that’s why we need to stay informed and resist these asswipes from ripping us off.

      Welcome to the ‘programme’ comrade knef :)
      Next step is to look at your local Pirate Party website my friend (as well as TF too of course).

      • Dfgdfghfg

        ya mean the same pirates that did not believe in filesharing in canada and i left the party due to it?

        ya get new leaders that have some balls first.

        • Suckario

          i agree i dont get that pirate party they believe in p2p only for free stuff, thats pointless… there should be another pirate party with some balls

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Ah yeah I heard about that and was REALLY confused and almost upset at these reports.
          Politics is risky at best and downright corrupt at worst. So we need to know exactly what ALL these political parties say they will do before we vote or support them, then compare that with their actions in practice.

          I’m in Scotland and have no local knowledge of “the situation” in Canada, but it wouldn’t surprise me that the Party was hijacked by ‘moderates’ or some equally offensive group of time-wasters wishing to destroy the Party from within.

          All the best you guys – so vote carefully as an informed adult should.

  • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

    Eventually these movie execs will get what’s coming for them “KARMA”!!

    • Anonymous

      It’s hopefully taking longer than we thought, otherwise I lose my belief in karma….

      • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

        Karma takes time but i do believe something is bound to come.

  • Anonymous

    The conservatives have a majority in parliment now. They have four years to enact a copyright law. Its coming…

    • Chronium

      hahahaha with Harper as the leader that will not happen for the citizens benefit. He’s a stooge for the Americans and just copies whatever they do.

      • Nomail

        «He’s a stooge for the Americans and just copies whatever they do.»
        Copyright infringement here?

  • Ahnon

    Canadian reader here… I can’t believe how the judge so easily decided to order the ISPs to divulge the identity of those users to an American plaintif! This certainly did not make any major news anywhere and I’m sure most Canadians are not aware of this. Internet related business tends to be kept from the public eye, thus little debate publicly about these things unfortunately.
    I wonder how the three ISPs will react, as this will set precedence for the future. Canadians have indeed taken granted for so long the ability to download whatever without repercussion, and I have been warning family members and friends for years that this was going to happen soon, but no one listened, because as stated in the article we are indeed “relaxed” in terms of downloading copyrighted materials. As for me, VPN and usenet have been my friends for long, and I continue to push my friends and family to use these. The Americans have finally invaded [next, it will be for our oil and water ;)]!

    • djnforce9

      You are right about us not being aware. This wasn’t in any newspaper or anything so this Torrentfreak article is the first time I’ve heard about this occurance. Fortunately for me, I did not download the Hurt Locker nor am I using any of the three (questionable) ISP’s. I use Shaw which still seems to have a lot of sense when it comes to these matters and even uses very relaxed bandwidth caps (if any because I’ve yet to hit it). Let us hope this does not escalate further with the “pay up or else” schemes invading here as well. They are just blatant extortion and abuse of copyright laws.

      • http://twitter.com/K1rkpad Dylan Kirkpatrick

        Probably the worst thing about Shaw is that they don’t let you track your usage until AFTER you go over the cap. You’d get charged for overage, and THEN they’d let you track your bandwidth use on their website.

        So, to NOT get charged for overage, just set up your own bandwidth tracking system. Either on your computers/devices, or just check the byte upload/download numbers which are usually stored in the router.

        • TeamColtra

          Dylan, I don’t know if this was true before or not but it certainly is not the case now:
          1) Shaw doesn’t charge for overages, it never has… As a person who has gone WELL over his bandwidth caps in the past, the worst that happens if they send you letter after letter (hehe and at some points will even leave a voicemail) reminding you that your bandwidth is going over the limit.

          2) This has recently changed with the new broadband plans (which I am glad to use… because who can resist 100 Mb Down 5Mb Up for such a good price?) and now if you go over your bandwidth you just get bumped up to the next tier (so if you are at broadband50 and you hit your bandwidth cap, you just go up to broadband100 for the end of the month… which is what happened to me so I decided to call in and just keep broadband100).

          3) Go https://my.shaw.ca/CustomerCentre/InternetModemUsage/SplitUsage here and sign into your account and you can view your usage. Mine is a bit low this month
          Aug 26 – Sep 07
          102.97 Download
          146.75 Upload
          (yes that is in the right order)

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice for the entertainment industry to get into the 21st century. Instead of wasting time and money on lawyers and interminable legal actions, they should be looking to develop a new business model that takes modern technologies and culture into consideration. Instead of antagonizing customers and others with outdated and draconian “it’s mine you can’t share it” mentalities, they should realize the economic effect of sharing — the fanbase is increased and strengthened, and can be tapped in other ways for revenue.

    A model of sharing and open rights through creative commons licensing is the culture of the Connected Age, while filmmakers and their lawyers remain firmly rooted in the 19th century Industrial Age.

    • djnforce9

      That would be nice but I guess they figure more profit is earned from abusing the legal system since they don’t actually have “create” anything. Just rob people blind with a broken legal system and certain people actually paying up for something they possibly did not even do.

  • Okarin

    moral flows (out) where the money goes

  • anon

    Can you even call these things “lawsuits”? How amy people have actually been sued? It’s a scam is what it is.

    • Jmorse43508

      A CA (US state, not Canada) Federal Judge recently threw out 5100 of 5101 lawsuits of this type over the alleged sharing of a porn film.

      It is most certainly a scam. If not, at the very least it is an abuse of the legal system.

      Thank Andrew Crossley and ACS:Law for giving US legal firms the idea of using BitTorrent lawsuits as a way of making money rather than to stop or recover losses from infringement.

      Hopefully more will suffer the same fate as that wanker and his firm did.

      • Anonymous

        It seems to me that these law firms know that their time abusing the legal system is limited and they will be shut down in time. So their true goal here is to make their $$$millions$$$ before they are.

        Canada will become the next speculative invoicing capital of this world after their scheme in the United States is slowly grinding to a halt. If we want to stop speculative invoice for good we have to hit them where it hurts… in the money.

      • Travis McCrea

        I just want to point out that you took more effort writing out “(US state, not Canada)” than you would have to just say “California”. The only true CA in a global sense is Canada.

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  • Anonymous

    Should be very interesting to me dude. Wow.
    privacy-tools.se.tc

    • spammerssuck

      ^^^ scumbag douchebag spammer pretends to add to the convo to distract from his spam payload…GTFO!!!

      • Dan

        thats why i flagged the fag spammer!!

    • Anonymous

      dude, i got a tool for your privacy

  • monkeyslap

    “Non-commercial infringement was capped under the bill at $5000 for all infringements, though it can go far lower. ”

    WTF? And here in the states it’s what, $150,000 maximum for a single infringement?

    • dude serious

      $5k is still a lot! WTF

    • Anonymous

      It is indeed nice to see that Canada separates commercial and non-commercial distribution.

      The United States needs to get themselves such a law (write to your member of Congress) when currently non-commercial sharing under this commercial aimed law leads only to law malfunction and violation of the US Constitution and the Bill or Rights.

      5000 CAD (5018 USD, 3674 EUR, 3160 GBP) can be seen to be a lot but remember that is the maximum available for the worst possible case you can think of and common file sharing would be fined much less.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1493666214 Anonymous

        Actually, no Canada does not distiquish between commercial and non-commericial infringement. The reference to bill C-52 was nothing but a shameless political plug in what should have been unbiased reporting. C-52 died without passing http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/global/canadian-c-32-copyright-reform-bill-dies-1005097402.story . Which of course the author of this article knows. However, if they can convince the average Canadian that it was a good thing, maybe next time that crap will pass without debate.

        In the past, courts have refused to grant such orders. I wonder what has changed?

  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    All that for such a shitty movie ! They should be happy people share it !

    • Dan

      haha i still am !!

    • Dan

      haha i still am !!

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Why bother if the movie is so crap?

        I suspect this is one of these events where the producers (like the porn guys) see they’re hard work, effort and investment managing to win an Oscar and decide THEY now rule the digital world of filesharing for no cash, no profit and no tangible gain by cashing in on outdated copywrong law.

        The business model of the MAFIAA is flawed in that these corporations have been ripping-off the consumer for crap goods with no right of return or refund when the consumer realises they’ve been fooled.

        Produce quality and we’ll happily pay you rip-off asswipes.
        Can’t put it any more simple as that – sorry guys.

        • Battyboy

          If your in scotland, are you wearing a skirt?….Pray tell…

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Why bother if the movie is so crap?

        I suspect this is one of these events where the producers (like the porn guys) see they’re hard work, effort and investment managing to win an Oscar and decide THEY now rule the digital world of filesharing for no cash, no profit and no tangible gain by cashing in on outdated copywrong law.

        The business model of the MAFIAA is flawed in that these corporations have been ripping-off the consumer for crap goods with no right of return or refund when the consumer realises they’ve been fooled.

        Produce quality and we’ll happily pay you rip-off asswipes.
        Can’t put it any more simple as that – sorry guys.

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  • Yeahme

    In Quebec there is free legal help where the state will provide you with a lawyer if you are unable to pay for one yourself. They cover criminal law and also cover some cases in civil court. My guess is that most defendants will be younger people who qualify for legal help. I guess the Government will eventually get sick of paying tens of thousands of dollars in each case and will eventually tell the justice minister to scrap all those law suits.

    • http://twitter.com/The_Curiosity The Curiosity

      especially when the the outcome would be a hell of a lot cheaper if they lose in court than the amount they would pay if they went for the “settlement.”

  • Foff

    What a double f#cking sick scam. Make a crap trash movie then sue everybody in the world who might have shared it. EEH you chinnookians tell them to f off.

  • Oomg

    Hahaha in Canada law are ultra clear about ip and person an IP is NOT a person and as such you cannot sue someone based on their ip unless you have HARD evidence, that the person in question used the ip for something illegal, and its easy for the person to pledge piracy of internet via bot-nets or wifi hacked …. furthermore copyright law are civil, and civil law can take years in Canada to appear in front of a judge in many case …. a BIG SCAMS thats what it is … or a totally big waste of time and money for Voltage

    • Anonymous

      Yes but these speculative invoicing law firms care none for that.

      So we know an IP address does not equal a person but the general public do not often know that and these law firms are out to exploit their ignorance and fear. Most have never seen such a demand before and if they believe it true, when not all do, then they can pay up to avoid the hassle of court innocent or not.

      The worst thing has already happened and they will soon have the subscribers names and addresses. They will bill them, they will harass them and they will scare them into paying up.

      All you said falls under non-applicable when they would never dare take a case to court for the reasons you have stated and more. We only need to see what happened to Andrew Crossley of ACS:Law to see what a bad idea such a case would be.

      Won they have and now is time reap their harvest at around $1000 to $2500 per subscriber. The court will see nothing else beyond no case ever progressing into a trial.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Spot-on my friend.
        The scam is now being exported worldwide, as our politicians continue to sit back and look at the fallout before deciding on fair laws.

        Pretty crap situation guys – the Copywrong War continues, but we’re here to assist.
        YOUR responsibility is to stay informed of events in trustworthy sites such as TF.

        Don’t fall for the copywrong propaganda guys – they feck with your head (and steal from your bank balance too if you’re not careful).

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        Spot-on my friend.
        The scam is now being exported worldwide, as our politicians continue to sit back and look at the fallout before deciding on fair laws.

        Pretty crap situation guys – the Copywrong War continues, but we’re here to assist.
        YOUR responsibility is to stay informed of events in trustworthy sites such as TF.

        Don’t fall for the copywrong propaganda guys – they feck with your head (and steal from your bank balance too if you’re not careful).

      • IDIOCRACY

        ” Most have never seen such a demand before and if they believe it true, when not all do, then they can pay up to avoid the hassle of court innocent or not.”

        Or they think and recognize the scam for a scam and send the letter they get together with a report of extortion to the police, they will get sooooo busy (the police) answering everybody. At least I would report an atempt to extortion, then when the same thing happens to the lawers as in Britain, hehe claim damages.

  • Oomg

    Hahaha in Canada law are ultra clear about ip and person an IP is NOT a person and as such you cannot sue someone based on their ip unless you have HARD evidence, that the person in question used the ip for something illegal, and its easy for the person to pledge piracy of internet via bot-nets or wifi hacked …. furthermore copyright law are civil, and civil law can take years in Canada to appear in front of a judge in many case …. a BIG SCAMS thats what it is … or a totally big waste of time and money for Voltage

  • Canada

    as i Canadian i’m disgusted but not surprised that our (Conservative) government has sold out tens of thousands of it’s own citizens just to protect the interests of a few rich movie execs who already made a tidy profit off of the box office and DVD for the hurt locker. Unfortunately i think we will be seeing more of this kind of thing over the next four years.

    • shane

      You are aware it was a judge’s decision and not a politicians right?

      • Chichables

        In ndp Quebec at that!

  • anon1

    this is bullshit. my little IP company was one of the IP’s that fought the recording industry all the way the the Supreme Court of Canada (when the big ones like Bell were ready to provide names), where the court said it was legal in Canada to download music for your own private use, but illegal to upload it. the movie industry didn’t even try after that verdict, so unless they can prove you uploaded, tell them to go to hell, or even better, ignore them. this does stand to warn people though, when Bill C 32 passes (and it will), they will be able to get you for copyright infringement, so prepare now with a VPN or seedbox.

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  • Toby R

    This was not in any of the newspapers or on TV here in Canada. Let’s make sure it’s as publicly known as possible so that our politicians know we as Canadians won’t stand for this kind of scum litigation won’t be tolerated here.

  • Fake

    wasn’t that the whole point of the piracy fee aka blank media levy to give to content creators that whine about piracy

    • AnonCanucker

      The blank media levy applies solely to music.

      • AnonCanucker

        Sorry, I should clarify it applies to “audio recordings”

      • Dfgdfghfg

        BLANK MEDIA LEVY not blank music levy…that’s the truth and i’ve read it and no where does it say MUSIC only please point that out with links…..

        • AnonCanucker

          Let me start by saying I hate all this copyright BS going on. It makes me sick, makes me want to bitch slap some pro-copyright group members and certain lawyers – day and night until I can’t swing my arms anymore.

          Problem here is that a lot of people think that because it was called the “blank media levy” it meant they could copy to their heart’s content, absolutely anything to absolutely any blank media and not ever be concerned with this copyright debaucle going on in America or across the ocean.

          Except Canada isn’t the safe harbour many Canadians think it is.

          “…that’s the truth and i’ve read it and no where does it say MUSIC only…”
          Next time post your own hyperlinks since you’ve already “read it” I clarified “audio recordings” 2 minutes after my first post (this site says 1 hr, it’s wrong) because there is an exemption, which you can read about elsewhere but you already know it cos’ you’ve “read it”

          Don’t think of it as the blank media levy anymore that’s ‘yesterday speak’ from years ago… think of it today as The Private Copying Tariff, 2011 that came into effect on January 1, 2011

          If you got busted tomorrow having downloaded then copied a movie to a cd-r, it would not automatically mean, in Canada, if sued for copyright infringement, it would be tossed out in civil court, even having paid the “blank media levy” on that cd-r you copied the movie to. Sorry. The spirit of the levy/tariff had been, not always was, but still is for the (private) copying of audio recordings (music) onto blank audio recording media.

          The larger issue of blank media levies/tariffs has been in and out of Canadian courts for years, groups trying to get the levy/tariff applied to all blank recordable media from hard drives to portable media players from the CRIA to the CPCC. AND the dirty buggers are still trying. Weird cos’ they want to make us pay more for ALL blank media… but…then we could STILL only copy music (for private use)?! Screw that, eh!
          ———-
          http://cpcc.ca/english/privCopKey.htm
          “Private copying is the subject of Part VIII of Canada’s Copyright Act. It has a very specific, and limited, meaning. A “private copy” is a copy of a track, or a substantial part of a track, of recorded music that is made by an individual for his or her own personal use. A compilation of favorite tracks is a good example of how people typically use private copies. In contrast, a copy made for someone else or for any purpose other than the copier’s own use is not a private copy. NOR IS A COPY OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN PRERECORDED MUSIC.”
          ———-
          http://cpcc.ca/english/currentTariff.htm
          “The Private Copying Tariff, 2011 came into effect on January 1, 2011.
          The types of media currently subject to private copying royalties and associated rates are: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-R Audio, CD-RW Audio – 29¢”
          ———-
          http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5798/125/
          “…While the prospect of an iPod tax in Canada died with the Conservative majority, the existing private copying system remains unchanged. Canadians currently pay levies on blank CDs (and cassettes) and now the Canadian Private Copying Collective, which collects the private copying revenues, would like to establish a new levy on blank memory cards used in a wide range of devices such as smartphones and digital cameras…”

        • Dfgdfghfg

          @AnonCanucker
          WRONG all that speech for nothing, and the levy is paid to compensate them and if you take me to civil court and i show up with everything you accuse me of on levied media your pwned that’s why they haven’t sued for what SINCE THE TRAGICALLY HIP /CRIA suit that got tossed out of court…and whom did the liberal party leader shake hands with …….during last election let that be a lesson to any MP. EVERY MP that has got in bed with them in canada has lost a seat.

          ALSO why do i need to post hypwerlinks go google and read it you lazy dipshit your the one spouting your crap that its a BLANK MUSIC LEVY and the propoganda that goes along with it. IT SAYS MEDIA WHAT IS MEDIA I DARE SAY? WHO collects and distros the cash ain’t my problem if they’d not have asked for it in first place we’d not have an “allibi” now would we?

        • Guest

          Wow dude. Your on the same side as Anoncanuck your trashing. Did you read the Geist stuff left in his links? You clicked on show more? You seem total crazy but I like the enthusiasm. Go after copyright trolls not the people who are on your side. I think what he’s saying is that if anyone gets sued in Canada, don’t be surprised because there’s laws already in place don’t matter if anyone agrees with them or not. That’s what the enemy will use to go after canadians & Chillout nobody said their going to sue you.

  • Guest

    shit

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  • Deepvoid

    More info:
    “In e-mail correspondence, a spokesperson for Videotron said the company would not be commenting on the case.

    A Bell spokesperson said in an e-mail reply to Mediacaster Magazine that “Bell takes the privacy of its customers seriously and always complies with Canadian privacy laws and CRTC privacy regulations

    “We disclose customer information only when directed to do so by a court order and only to the extent required by such an order

    “In this instance we do intend to comply with the Quebec Superior Court’s order – which relates to less than 10 Bell IP addresses – and have no plans to appeal.”

    A Cogeco communications officer also said the company would comply with the order, and that it involves ten customers.”

    • Jay Crumb

      Oh god, knowing my luck, I’ll be one of the ten.

      • Anonymous

        I would not worry at all if you are. The best defense is to totally ignore them when they would soon give up seeing there is no hope of money from you. Their letters are only grade A toilet paper anyway.

        For those who feel the urge to write a defense then give them nothing beyond your already known name and address. To freely hand over your home, work or mobile numbers is only asking for verbal harassment.

        And if they find out your telephone numbers anyway I can add four defenses…

        1. Ask who is calling and when they answer say “hold on a minute” then leave your phone off hook until they hang up. Do that a couple of times and they will soon stop calling.

        2. Treat it like a security check. Ask them their name, their boss’s name, their business details and then scans of ID and company data. Being a big problem to them soon gets you ignored.

        3. Tell them that their call is being recorded and that this is official notification that they are unlawfully and falsely harassing you. Also say under harassment law you hereby notify them that any further act of harassment will be fined at the rate of $500 per event. If they contact you again you should invoice them giving the date and time of the harassment event. No way would they take you to court when you can counter-claim harassment costs that can soon run into thousands of $$$.

        4. Just add their number to your telephone provider’s block list.

      • Anonymous

        I would not worry at all if you are. The best defense is to totally ignore them when they would soon give up seeing there is no hope of money from you. Their letters are only grade A toilet paper anyway.

        For those who feel the urge to write a defense then give them nothing beyond your already known name and address. To freely hand over your home, work or mobile numbers is only asking for verbal harassment.

        And if they find out your telephone numbers anyway I can add four defenses…

        1. Ask who is calling and when they answer say “hold on a minute” then leave your phone off hook until they hang up. Do that a couple of times and they will soon stop calling.

        2. Treat it like a security check. Ask them their name, their boss’s name, their business details and then scans of ID and company data. Being a big problem to them soon gets you ignored.

        3. Tell them that their call is being recorded and that this is official notification that they are unlawfully and falsely harassing you. Also say under harassment law you hereby notify them that any further act of harassment will be fined at the rate of $500 per event. If they contact you again you should invoice them giving the date and time of the harassment event. No way would they take you to court when you can counter-claim harassment costs that can soon run into thousands of $$$.

        4. Just add their number to your telephone provider’s block list.

    • SadQuebecer
    • Anonymous

      I hope these ISPs also write to these affected subscribers pointing out certain facts about speculative invoicing and pointing them to services like the EFF who can help them fight such malicious and false claims.

      That I would say is their MINIMUM level required to claim they want to protect their subscribers and their subscriber’s privacy.

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        lol good try V0 but I now fear the responsibility of protecting the privacy of these Canadian customers has already been undermined and effectively sold by these ISP’s to a third party despite our Human Rights to freedom to access information and our right to privacy and dignity.

        These ISP’s have made a BAD decision and their customers MUST now suffer by trying to rectify that error by going to Court to uphold their personal Rights whilst leaving their ISP for a safer and more reliable source of business.

  • Cujo

    Check out the pic ,, The guy running away from the blast already had his bomb suit on ;)

  • Guest

    I just don’t get why this isn’t all over the news here? Seriously – what is going on? Does this set a precedence now? So if a Chinese or North Korean studio proceeds to submit the same subpoena to the same Quebec Superior Court, will we again comply? This is dangerous stuff, and I don’t like it one bit. As a Canadian citizen I was always under the impression that I belong to a sovereign nation, but it would seem that my rights only go as far as one subpoena by a foreign law firm. Nice.

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  • Guest

    Last I heard you can download whatever you want in Canada no penalty. I have no idea but maybe someone should post what the actual law in Canada is before letting widespread panic happen for no good reason.

    • SuckMyCopyright

      @Guest
      nobody should panic until you get a court summons or contacted by your isp /
      still dont panic say to the judge
      -i have open wifi
      -friends have used the computer
      -i lost my laptop at tim hortons,got it back from a chick in the parking lot over a week later didnt get her name but she was hot but underage so i din’t ask her any questions
      -i used a hacked bitorrent client never downloaded the movie even tho my ip showed
      -i used a hacked bittorrent client never uploaded the movie
      -i downloaded the movie but only uploaded 3.2% of it screwed the other leechers
      -i only ever downloaded the subs to the movie but torrent client said i was an seeder at 100%
      -what the hell’s a bittorrent?
      -i can barely check my email your honor
      -backup your data store it somewhere safe zero all your drives now before you get a summons
      -the computer corrupted my porn stash for the last time so i set the facker on fire a month ago sorry yur honor melted the whole thing and buried it in the woods
      -the movie sucked so bad i’d never steal it i mean share it for free
      -i regukarly pollute torrent streams with my and others ips
      -some ass hacked me and shared this semi naked photo on facebook then show judge a semi naked photo yopu just planted on your friends facebook profile
      -lie your freakin ass off to the judge in court perjur away
      -big copyright sued printers dead people old people blind people how can they say it wuz me beyond a resonable doubt

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Even if you have an ENCRYPTED wireless network, you could point out that it is very easy to hack one of those (hell, just packet sniffing is enough in most cases even with a WPA2 password).

        • Maxpower

          lol, you can not “sniff” a WPA2 password. At best you can capture an encrypted handshake that can be used to run a dictionary attack or be brute forced, but with brute force, any non dictionary word greater than 8 chars… you won’t be discovering that password in any reasonable ammount of time.

      • 2×4

        “i lost my laptop at tim hortons,got it back from a chick in the parking lot over a week later didnt get her name but she was hot but underage so i din’t ask her any questions”
        i’d pay hundreds of dollars to hear the guy say that in court!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1493666214 Anonymous

        Even if you don’t have WIFI, they still have to correctly identify which member of your household to charge. Am I responsible if my wife decides to download a movie? No. Is she responsible if I download a movie? No. Unless they can establish conspiracy, so they can charge everyone, it is fairly impossible to determine who to charge. Even if they confiscate your computer, how many people keep their account passwords secret from the rest of the family?

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  • SIN# 230 498 667

    Welcome to hell —> Copyright of Canada
    http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/FullText.html

    There’s no easy answer. In Canada as far as I know.

    You are able to download for personal & non-profit use and not get charged by the RCMP with a CRIMINAL charge but you can still get sued for money by another party (copyright holder) in a CIVIL lawsuit for downloading it. Whether the provincial police forces and local police forces won’t charge you for downloading, I don’t know, they’re separate entities from the RCMP but you can still get sued for money by a copyright holder.

    Burning anything other than music to tariff paid blank media ONLY CD-R, CD-RW, CD-R Audio, CD-RW is a completely different thing than downloading for personal & non-profit use. You might get get sued for money by a copyright holder.

    If you use downloaded content for profit or non-personal use – showing an episode of the Office on a dvd-r at work during a staff meeting you could get you sued for money.

    If you burn the Simpsons The Movie and show it in a public park for $1 per ticket then you can get charged with a criminal offfence and get sued for money.

    In a nutshell this is how I believe it is, someone prove me wrong include sources.

  • SIN# 230 498 667

    Welcome to hell —> Copyright of Canada
    http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-42/FullText.html

    There’s no easy answer. In Canada as far as I know.

    You are able to download for personal & non-profit use and not get charged by the RCMP with a CRIMINAL charge but you can still get sued for money by another party (copyright holder) in a CIVIL lawsuit for downloading it. Whether the provincial police forces and local police forces won’t charge you for downloading, I don’t know, they’re separate entities from the RCMP but you can still get sued for money by a copyright holder.

    Burning anything other than music to tariff paid blank media ONLY CD-R, CD-RW, CD-R Audio, CD-RW is a completely different thing than downloading for personal & non-profit use. You might get get sued for money by a copyright holder.

    If you use downloaded content for profit or non-personal use – showing an episode of the Office on a dvd-r at work during a staff meeting you could get you sued for money.

    If you burn the Simpsons The Movie and show it in a public park for $1 per ticket then you can get charged with a criminal offfence and get sued for money.

    In a nutshell this is how I believe it is, someone prove me wrong include sources.

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  • Deepvoid

    Maybe a lawyer could clarify this but isn’t there a 3-year prescription to file a lawsuit in this type of case? Wouldn’t this make this whole thing statute barred? The movie was release in 2008.

  • Anonymous

    Jeez …Hurt Locker is (and has been) long forgotten…yet they’re still trying to squeeze blood from a turnip? Somebody at Voltage has a serious chip on their shoulder.

    As a plumber, I do wish I could get “recurring usage” income for finally fixing that backed-up toilet at New Meadowlands Stadium.

  • Megarock Radio

    Just remember to never, ever spend a penny on any movies or productions from Voltage. Suing someone $5,000 over a movie I can purchase for 9.99 is wrong. If the courts ever got that point through their heads that the movie cannot be worth a penny more than it’s average retail price at the time then the lawsuits will stop because it won’t be worth any lawyers time to sue someone over nine bucks.

  • Megarock Radio

    Just remember to never, ever spend a penny on any movies or productions from Voltage. Suing someone $5,000 over a movie I can purchase for 9.99 is wrong. If the courts ever got that point through their heads that the movie cannot be worth a penny more than it’s average retail price at the time then the lawsuits will stop because it won’t be worth any lawyers time to sue someone over nine bucks.

  • 1001001

    http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/dept-min/pub/just/08.html
    -Don’t hint or admit guilt to anyone. Profess your innocence to family and friends because you’re not guilty EVER.
    -Don’t pick up any registered letters sent via Canada Post from a postal outlet if you don’t know the sender, especially ones that require you to show ID and sign for.
    -Don’t pay money to these asshats, their lawyers or their representatives until a Canadian court forces you to.
    -Don’t hand over hardware (or anything) to anyone without a Canadian court order and who isn’t in an official police uniform. The warrant has to be issued by a Canadian court – no matter what they say or threaten. Read all the paperwork thoroughly.
    You only have to supply the police with your name, ID, and current address – nothing else so why say a damn thing to people who aren’t police officers about anything.
    -If they’re (copyright trolls) on your property tell them they’re trespassing, if they don’t leave call the police on them. If they call you and you do accidentally talk to them tell them they are harassing you, then contact the police and get a restraining order (if you can prove a pattern of harassment) Take photos, record conversations, make notes with time, date, particulars of who said and did what etc. Don’t be violent towards them and don’t utter threats to the copyright trolls, be calm, be civil if forced to deal with them.
    -Don’t open the door to strangers, don’t answer phone calls from strangers
    -You can have a lawyer in civil court
    -The plaintiff (Voltage) must prove that it is probable that the defendant (you) is legally responsible, or “liable,” as a civil case is decided on a balance of probabilities, that’s all they have to prove so make it really difficult for them to prove it. Prepare a defense or multiple defenses. Don’t ever get caught in a lie so choose your defense(s) and words carefully in court.

    Important: If you get summoned to court by a Canadian court for a civil procedure and you don’t appear in front of the judge or didn’t send somebody to represent/defend you, a lawyer or non-lawyer, the court will issue a ‘default judgement’ which means the plaintiff (Voltage) will “win” because you couldn’t be arsed to defend yourself.

    I hope that Voltage will not file anything with the courts, if they do, I hope that the judge(s) will dismiss all the cases from the start.

    • Guest

      Send snail mail, email & Anonymous/Lulzsec LOIC DDOSes, phone calls to:

      Dunlap, Grubb & Weaver – Attorneys at Law
      http://www.dglegal.com/
      Telephone : 514-397-7602
      Fax : 514-397-4382
      info@ggd.com
      2000 McGill College Avenue, Suite 2200
      Montreal, Quebec
      H3A 3H3

      • Guest

        Scratch above post wow I suck.Send mail to:

        Goudreau Gage Dubuc
        http://www.ggd.com/
        Telephone : 514-397-7602
        Fax : 514-397-4382
        info@ggd.com
        2000 McGill College Avenue, Suite 2200
        Montreal, Quebec
        H3A 3H3

      • Guest

        Scratch above post wow I suck.Send mail to:

        Goudreau Gage Dubuc
        http://www.ggd.com/
        Telephone : 514-397-7602
        Fax : 514-397-4382
        info@ggd.com
        2000 McGill College Avenue, Suite 2200
        Montreal, Quebec
        H3A 3H3

  • Dfgdfghfg

    i wonder if your on welfare what they can do to you? I asked and even if found guilty the most they can take legally form a check is 26$

    SO after first time WHO CARES…..get a welfare person to do it all for you ……buy him food and hardware…..NOT a dime extra….

  • anonymoususer

    These idiots are the reason why condoms were invented, their parents were obviously just too stupid to use them.
    Fuck off out of my country with your terrorism. If this movie wasn’t so bad I’d download it just as a big old Fuck You to these morons.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t download this crappy movie either. Nothing but American propaganda.

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  • CogecoUser101

    I’m a Cogeco user, and in response to reading this I’ve just torrented Hurt Locker, and dare Voltage Pictures to try and sue me under US Law.

    Not only that, another article I read quotes a Cogeco Communications Officer as saying they’ll comply with the order, which means that I’m calling them to threaten legal action for violating Canadian Privacy Laws.

  • Anonymous

    Wrap yourselves in the flag when convenient. Fact is you stole the property created by someone else. It is theft to download a movie and not pay.

  • likely wrong

    since almost everything on the internet is downloadable free, how are we to know what is not? if there was a copyrighted picture on a wall, is it illegal to look at it? my point is that once these content providers put a file on the internet, that is like putting the picture on a wall. if they do not want it viewed then it should be protected.

    • Anonymous

      It was not the owners of Hurt Locker who put it online. It started with someone with a dvd copying it to the internet.

      Also, think of it this way. If I walked into your house, stole a dvd and left my address behind on a slip of paper, what would you do?

      People have a right to protect their property and to use the courts when it is stolen.

      • likely wrong

        i am with you charlie, but i think you forgot the final event in this comparison. to complete the comparison the guy who stole the dvd from you, throws it in the field at the public park. should it be illegal to pick up the dvd and check it out.

        how does recycling get affected with these ownership questions?

        • Anonymous

          Solid point about the park. I am really not sure where the answer lies. Somehow artist have to be protected and yet the new technology embraced to facilitate much wider, faster, cheaper and much more convenient distribution.

        • MostlyCivil

          But you don’t just throw it in a field. You put up a little table, hand lettered a sign that said “I stole this, so now you can have it for free, too” and then texted all your buddies saying “I put something in the field, the usual spot”.

          It stops being recycling the minute the secind copy gets made from the original.

      • Ann

        then the twerp who put it “up” is guilty
        not the person who looks at the wall.

        • Jim098

          You may not know anything about who the DVD belongs to, but you do know one thing – IT’S NOT YOURS! So don’t take it. Period.

      • jeff0101

        You have some good points, but hear this out. Suppose I somehow steal a DVD from you, and I leave my information behind. So it’s a $9.99 DVD, could you turn around and sue for $5,000 or more? It’s not so much of whether or no what people are doing is illegal, but it’s the threat of serious legal action for very minimal damage. They (Hurt Locker) seem to have the ability to throw their weight around at extort large amounts of money from people well in excess of their actual lost revenue. (because, we all know that “illegal” downloading of copyright work isn’t going to stop until the industry catches up with the technology) It’s kinda like you saying “Look, I know you stole my DVD, I want $5,000 from you, or I will contact my uncle, who is chief of police, and we’ll get you in front of my aunt, who’s a judge, and we will prosecute you to the maximum extent of the law!”

        While currently it is a free for all when it comes to stealing intellectual works of art (movie and music), the punishment (civil) should fit the crime. So would that be $5 or $10 per incident….which would represent the real loss of income.

  • http://profiles.google.com/raamman Laszlo Zoltan

    I think the main thing here is that this is opening the door to hold file sharers in canuckicaca liable to exposure and penalty- this will translate beyond movies as well. we will remember this as when the good old days began to sour

  • http://profiles.google.com/raamman Laszlo Zoltan

    I think the main thing here is that this is opening the door to hold file sharers in canuckicaca liable to exposure and penalty- this will translate beyond movies as well. we will remember this as when the good old days began to sour

  • Bart

    I hope they pursue all illegal downloaders and file sharers and make them pay. They are thief and deserve to be treated as such.

  • Bart

    I hope they pursue all illegal downloaders and file sharers and make them pay. They are thief and deserve to be treated as such.

  • AGAK

    why doesn’t everybody here tell 5 of their friends to go on the movie review web sites and trash the current releases from Voltage Pictures. A lot of people look to these sites to decide what they are going to go see. This is the proper way to screw these guys

  • Responsible and amused

    it seems most of you making comments here are are self centered, self righteous fools….. the reality, you took someone’s product without paying for it. Take a look at your life and your job (assuming you have one of either, that is not paid for by mommy and daddy) and decide what your job or your creations (assuming you create anything of value) could be simply taken for free by others. While that may sound “free” and “modern” it is theft, plain and simple. That the internet makes it easy to steal is irrelevant. Stop whining, get a life, and step up to reality and responsibility.

    • YoureNotResponsibleAtAll

      Paying $60,000 USD for uploading 2 porn movies is NOT justice.
      Paying $54,000 USD for uploading 24 songs is NOT justice.
      Stop whining, get a life, and step up to reality and responsibility.

    • No dmca in CANADA

      @Voltage – US laws don’t apply in Canada. Many of us appreciate both sides of the issue but if you try to censor us or erode our freedoms in any way we will fight you. Downloading for personal use in Canada is legal, uploading is not.

      YoureNotResponsibleAtAll is right
      Paying $60,000 USD for uploading 2 porn movies is NOT justice. It should have been about $50, $25 per movie
      Paying $54,000 USD for uploading 24 songs is NOT justice. It should have been $24.00, $1 per song.

      A download does not equal a lost sale, if you’re a reasonable Canadian.

      I don’t think that if Voltage sues it’ll get anywhere in this country. Canadians have learned from Americans that you have fight. We don’t want Canada to become the USA, we abhor the DMCA. We don’t accept anyone treading on our freedoms or censorship no matter how it’s dressed. A wolf in sheep’s clothing is still a wolf. This issue is way beyond file sharing, way beyond theft. You’ll find we’ll push back even harder if someone attempts to bully us. If you’re reasonable with us we’ll be reasonable with you.

    • Jamie

      Quite right. It’s STEALING. You can get all sanctimonious about it, or hide behind legal technicalities, or pseudo nationalisitic baloney but the truth is: you are stealing something that doesn’t belong to you. I guess because the supermarket has food on display you have a right to steal the pot roasts?

      • JamieSuxKokx

        Suing someone and getting $60,000.00 US out of them for uploading 2 porn movies is STEALING from them.

        If I steal 2 pot roasts from the grocery store and they sue me, then someone idiot decides it’s worth $100,000.00 to the grocery store and serves to discourage pot roast theft. That’s mental illness and entitlement, not justice, it’s STEALING and GREEDY. Exactly what you accuse everyone else of.

        Next thing you guys will want the judges to cut off a finger or two from the defendant to prove your point, since obviously money penalties aren’t stopping downloading – downloading is still legal in Canada, whether yo agree with it or not.

      • JamieSuxKokx

        Suing someone and getting $60,000.00 US out of them for uploading 2 porn movies is STEALING from them.

        If I steal 2 pot roasts from the grocery store and they sue me, then someone idiot decides it’s worth $100,000.00 to the grocery store and serves to discourage pot roast theft. That’s mental illness and entitlement, not justice, it’s STEALING and GREEDY. Exactly what you accuse everyone else of.

        Next thing you guys will want the judges to cut off a finger or two from the defendant to prove your point, since obviously money penalties aren’t stopping downloading – downloading is still legal in Canada, whether yo agree with it or not.

      • NotTakingItAnymore

        @Jamie – How about you and the other copyright whiners get a real job. Quit whining, “They’re stealing from us “. If you don’t like it get a job that does humanity some good for a change. Suing blind, old, poor and dead people doesn’t do much to make people respect the copyright goon squad. You’re stealing from hard working, honest people with the help of the American government, seems like a mentally ill government to me. PAy off your dead American government before spending money on going after your own citizens. Don’t spend money suing people from other countries, do you really want to add to your headache?

        You stole from me when I bought a music cd that was scratched and I couldn’t return it.
        You stole from me when I bought a pc game, met the specs, but it didn’t work on my pc and I couldn’t return it.
        You stole from me when I already pay for satellite and because I chose to download a tv episode so I could watch it at my convenience ‘you’ sued me.
        My country says it’s legal to download but no you decided to sue me regardless.

    • Anonymous

      Hi. My name is Profitman.

      I live in a nice house in a densely populated area. It’s Holiday time and I invest much money and months of artistic effort into decorating my house for the Holidays.

      Likewise, my neighbor Joe Altruist does the same with his house.

      But unlike Joe, I have unilaterally declared that *any* viewing of my beautiful holiday house should incur a fee to offset my expenses and acknowledge what I feel is my highly creative and artistic work. I’ve decided to profit from my creation.

      My neighbor Joe doesn’t charge a fee…he actually invested more time into his holiday decor than me but he never intended to charge others to view his remarkable creation.

      I don’t have much control over who views my house, because I live on a public street- and anyone can drive by and take a picture if they so choose. I’ve asked the police to prevent such blatant thievery, but they are usually too busy with other matters.

      I like my neighbor Bobby Sue – she is an upstanding citizen and always drops money in my mailbox when she drives by my house. (She also drives by Joe’s prettier house but doesn’t pay him (he’s such a sucker)).

      Unfortunately I often notice many other people looking at my house and taking pictures- and they don’t pay me. They are utterly depraved thieves and I intend to prosecute them for stealing the light radiation emitted from my house!

      I feel raped and abused.

    • Anonymous

      Hi. My name is Profitman.

      I live in a nice house in a densely populated area. It’s Holiday time and I invest much money and months of artistic effort into decorating my house for the Holidays.

      Likewise, my neighbor Joe Altruist does the same with his house.

      But unlike Joe, I have unilaterally declared that *any* viewing of my beautiful holiday house should incur a fee to offset my expenses and acknowledge what I feel is my highly creative and artistic work. I’ve decided to profit from my creation.

      My neighbor Joe doesn’t charge a fee…he actually invested more time into his holiday decor than me but he never intended to charge others to view his remarkable creation.

      I don’t have much control over who views my house, because I live on a public street- and anyone can drive by and take a picture if they so choose. I’ve asked the police to prevent such blatant thievery, but they are usually too busy with other matters.

      I like my neighbor Bobby Sue – she is an upstanding citizen and always drops money in my mailbox when she drives by my house. (She also drives by Joe’s prettier house but doesn’t pay him (he’s such a sucker)).

      Unfortunately I often notice many other people looking at my house and taking pictures- and they don’t pay me. They are utterly depraved thieves and I intend to prosecute them for stealing the light radiation emitted from my house!

      I feel raped and abused.

    • Anonymous

      troll

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  • Dyne1319

    Fuckkng american, can suck my ass. Somebody really needs smack these people upside the head. Stay the fuck away from my file share. You American pig dogs.

    Ps hurt locker was a giant piece o shit was worth .001 cents let alone 10 of thousands. Avatar should have gotten the Oscar.

  • Joshuajonas

    I never bothered to watch Hurt Locker anywho! Avatar was way better and you don’t see them going around suing everyone who did download it. Moral of the story: make a better movie and people might actually go buy it

  • Truthseeker

    I will make a point of not seeing this movie anywhere. yankee go home.

  • Anonymous

    Too bad this movie was absolute shit, and Cameron’s no-talent ex would rather blame piracy for it’s less than stellar theatrical and home video numbers than the fact that her movie sucks ass and the only people who liked it were the rest of her fart sniffing elitist buddies.

  • Cheryl Lynn

    This is only happening in Quebec. If it starts happening in any of the important parts of Canada, then it will be time to worry.

  • Guestsa22

    I’m curious, what happens after the people receive the letter? They just pay up?

    • Willze

      If it’s like in us and uk :

      1/ you can pay around of 1000-2000$ and it’s over.
      2/ If you don’t pay….nothing,
      3/ if you don’t pay, some month later a judge drop the case, nobody pay, and it’s over.

      They just try to take the max money they can with the first option…..fear

  • Garywong1

    i had read the canadian copyright law couple day ago,it is very confusing,you can download but not upload,for music basicly it ok to download because there is a levy on blank cd,also a private exempton act.the record co. sue 24 people in 2006 and they lost. i dont thing this law suite will be than long.

  • Guest9898

    I’ve saw the request for the 25000us last may and Voltage track the Maxspeed version of the film only.

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  • Garywong1

    Does anybody know how long isp keep your internet data? One month , three months,or forever.because if isp delete your internet record ,there is no case.

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  • Koneill45

    Considering the way that Hollywood has ripped off the general public for years with over-inflated ticket prices I’d say it’s the other way around. I love how everyone has a tendency to blame Joe Blow the average consumer for downloading a movie here and there but neglect to mention the huge revenues lost in the foriegn black market where virtually every film is pirated and sold largely with out any consequences.

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