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Hurt Locker Makers To Sue Thousands of BitTorrent Users

The makers of the Oscar-winning movie Hurt Locker have joined a very lucrative ‘pay up or else’ scheme that will target tens of thousands of U.S. BitTorrent users. The massive lawsuit is expected to be filed in the coming days and if ISPs cooperate, suspected downloaders will receive a settlement letter in the weeks to come.

The Hurt Locker has been a great success on BitTorrent, before and after its Oscar triumph. The film’s screener leaked in February of last year, months before it premiered in movie theaters in the United States. However, the demand on BitTorrent went up significantly after it was chosen as the Best Picture of 2009

The day after the award show ‘the hurt locker’ was the most typed in search phrase on BitTorrent, with ‘hurt locker’ ending up in ninth place. This increased demand was also reflected in the download numbers which skyrocketed. Since its win at the Oscars the film has been downloaded more than three million times, totaling well over 10 million downloads.

Despite the recognition from Academy members and the huge success among downloaders, the U.S box office revenue has been relatively low at $16.4 million. In an attempt to increase the film’s revenue its makers will threaten to sue thousands of BitTorrent users who have illegally downloaded (and therefore uploaded/distributed) a copy in recent months.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the Hurt Locker team has signed up for the services of the U.S. Copyright Group, who will launch a mass lawsuit targeted at tens of thousands of Hurt Locker sharers. The lawsuit is expected to be filed this week and will ask U.S. ISPs to reveal the account owners linked to the IP-addresses that shared the movie on BitTorrent.

The U.S. Copyright Group announced its mass litigation scheme in March, when it targeted thousands who allegedly infringed copyright on several indie film titles. All infringers that have been identified were kindly asked to settle the dispute, or face further legal action. It is expected, however, that the scope of this new round of letters will be much greater due to the high demand for the Hurt Locker on BitTorrent.

“You can guess that relative to the films we’ve pursued already, the order of magnitude is much higher with Hurt Locker,” said Thomas Dunlap, a lawyer at the U.S. Copyright Group. Dunlap also said that 75 percent of ISPs have cooperated thus far and that 40% of the BitTorrent users that were targeted early this year have already settled.

Although U.S. Copyright Group say it is their intent to sue individuals who do not pay, in reality that eventuality is impossible to maintain on any scale. Their aim will be to scare as many people as possible into paying, perhaps backed up with legal action against a tiny minority to prove a point.

As we reported earlier, the ‘pay up or else’ scheme is not only lucrative for the rights holders, who get only 30 percent of the settlement money. The remaining 70 percent goes to the U.S Copyright Group and its anti-piracy partners.

In the UK these schemes have been highly criticized by the public, consumer organizations and politicians because of the intimidating tactics and lack of solid evidence. In the UK House of Lords they have been labeled a scam, and the lawyers operating them accused of “harassment, bullying and intrusion” and “legal blackmail.” We expect that the U.S. equivalent will also meet great opposition.

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  • iphreaki

    ill prolly just share it on principal….

  • Noider

    And to think I did not grab that one…! Rats…now I can’t tell em to kiss my arse when they try!

  • Noider

    Man trying to post here anymore is a royal pain in the arse!

  • Mbb

    Well for some reason I didnt download it via torrent but usenet :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to download a dvdrip just for the sake of seeding it back up. Fuck that shit movie.

  • Kevin.

    Worth downloading anyone? Might just grab it and see what the fuss is about. Prob. a shit movie, hence why they need the extra money to make up for a poor film.

  • Torin050

    Hm, I wasn’t interested in the movie before, but suddenly I’m intrigued. I hope I’m not left out of the fun! :D

  • Avatar

    Avatar deserved that oscar…

  • Kevin.

    Pfft.. Looks like another stupid war movie anyway. Not wasting my time on this crap. The producers of this film need to be more original.

  • Thraprod

    Highly awarded or not, it didn’t look like a movie I would be interested in. Thus its one I never bothered to waste my bandwidth on.

  • WLS

    @5

    I rented it through a Redbox kiosk and thought it sucked. But for $1.07 wasn’t a total waste, and now I don’t have to worry about a lawsuit.

  • Peter

    I bet the movie producers last names end in stein.

    Terrible film, no imagination.

  • James

    So.. let’s see..

    If they get an average of $600 each user.

    And sue 9,000 people for eg.

    That’s $5,400,000

    Not a bad scam to get into folks. People should just make some shit with their home cams, post on You Tube, wait for 9000 hits and sue them all for $600.

    Instant millionaire.

  • Anonymous

    The movie was ok, but actualy twisted facts, iraq people are actualy doing the work – not US soldiers, as the movie suggest.

    And movie on torrent helps success.
    Go figure LOTR or Avatar.

    Cheers

  • ball-o-fuzz

    Time to download the movie and pass it around the sneakernet!

  • w0ts0n

    What is stoping me from just sending out letters to people in my street demanding money to a fake business? Nothing. This is bullshit.

  • annoyed

    My Initial Reaction: (said out loud in a silent library…) “O don’t. I was going to buy that dvd…”

    What a joke, 1 lost sale here…

    Brilliant Film FYI.

  • anonymous

    the way this type of ‘legal scam’ is going, it will soon be a waste of time for any movie to be released in the cinema. there will be more money made by just putting it up ‘illegally’ (ahem!) on the internet, then suing the arse off of all who download it! wonder when this is going to end! a massive boycott of all media is needed so that the ‘industries’ understand they cant continue with this sort of gross intimidation!

  • me

    movie was shitty in the first place. glad i didn’t see it on the big screen and wasted a lot of money.

  • politux

    Oddly enough, the makers of the film are themselves being sued by a US soldier who claims that the movie was based on his exploits and that he coined the phrase “The Hurt Locker.”

    Personally, I enjoyed the film quite a bit. I had never heard of it until it was nominated and don’t usually enjoy war films but this one was well made and suspensful.

  • ppl

    this is a publicity stunt, so ppl like the above comments will check it out and some will even buy/rent it to “see what all the fuss is about”. Oh and send letters so 40% will just pay them $$ and the 60% or the smart ones will just laugh and use it as the next sticky note to write down the next movie to get on BT.

  • John Down

    Great to see the “great minds” of the industry optimising their business model.

    Apart from DVDs, Mugs & T-Shirts you can now have a personalised threatening letter to add to your collection.

    Like getting so many junk food flyers every day was not enough …

  • AvatarOfWoe666

    I think to make an example to these people im going to find out every major play in this movie from producers to director’s etc and actors and download every movie they’ve touched jut to let them know then put it up on sites as lawsuit douches movie pack. :P

  • Lucky Man

    sadly, i didn’t use bittorrent but got this movie anyways so how u gonna sue somebody who don’t use bittorrent? idiots…
    Hurt Locker ain’t that good anyways cuz i only want to watch it for one time but if you want me buy it then later i would sell to Pawn or whatever cuz i need money as Hurt Locker need money… if talking about pay up then it would be hard for them to get money from bittorrent users anyway if begging. i wouldn’t ask for money tho.

  • Anonymous

    This is probably a stunt. I’m sure they expected to make more money on it. After all, there are a lot of suckers out there for American glorification of war propaganda shit.

  • Troll

    Their own damn fault if they publicly announces the name of the movie >_<

    And what the hell, if someone makes a chair which my friend later buys, if I happen to duplicate that chair into an exact physical copy doesn't mean that the original owner should get paid. Why? Because I "stole" it? How did I "steal" it from him?

  • inviteforumfag

    bigelow made strange days-much better-go torrent that one instead

  • AvatarMeritedTheOscar

    Funny considering the Hurt Locker makers are themselves sued by Master Sgt. Jeffrey S. Sarver who is claiming that the story was in fact plagiarized from events in his own life.

  • Derpa Derp

    Free toilet paper? cool

  • Henrik

    Hurt locker is horrible, no wonder it failed. The only reason it won an Oscar is to support the war in Iraq, or so it would seem.

  • Acce

    Don’t donwload with trackers. They will hunt you using Trackers. Use PEX and DHT. Also use anonymous networks like I2P and Tor. Use blocklists to block the entire USA (except your IP range if you are american)

  • Trelew

    In a country where litigation is America’s favourite pastime, they’ll probably get away with it.

  • what

    Hurt Locker? More like Hurt Butt

  • Anonymous

    More like The Butthurt Locker

  • Anonymous

    horrible movie.. they should pay us for wasting time watching that crap -_-”

  • .

    I downloaded it before there was any mention about it anywhere. I watched about 1 minute of it and didn’t like the camera work at all and stopped watching.

    Really glad i didn’t go to movies or whatnot to see it. Would’ve only wasted my cash…

  • Pirate and Proud…..

    It’s absolute crap.

  • Jesus with shaved balls

    this movie sucks BIG TIME! the moviemakers should pay ME for wasting 120 mins of my life!! grr

  • Anonymous

    More like Butthurt Locker amirite?

    Also someone give their cameramen epilepsy medicie because… Damn.

  • cy

    the movie was mediocre at best. yawnz~

  • Anonymous

    gotta love UK legislation

  • JonnieHa1435

    EVERYONE open ur wifi up , that will be the best defense … u cant prove someone went into my public wifi and downloaded it and tried to hide there tracks

  • JonnieHa1435

    — EVERYONE open ur wifi up , that will be the best defense … u cant prove someone went into my public wifi and downloaded it and tried to hide there tracks —-

  • Bob In Tenerife

    The film and music industry have dragged their heels so much regarding download piracy, they only have themselves to blame.

  • Borderline Voter

    “Their aim will be to scare as many people as possible into paying, ”

    No No No, more likly will be scaring as many people as possible from view/buy the movie comapny films and merchandizing in the future.

  • SewerSurf

    the only ones who will get the locker of hurt is them…

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  • markie

    Not a bad scam. Make a crap movie don’t make enough money of it. Then decide to sue file shares.

    I see a pattern emerging here. Every crap movie being made will come with file shares being sued.

  • My Name

    @JonnieHa1435

    even if youn open your WIFI. You are responsible for your Internet connection. That silly excuse will not get you off the hook.

    This movie sucks, didnt even bother to DL.

  • OJ

    The movie sucked… there were a couple of cool explosions but it was waaay over hyped and awarded.

    I’m glad I only rented the movie. F**K them.

  • OSCAR

    Very average movie. Cant believe it recieved an Oscar!.

    Thanks to the internet you don’t have to get sucked into the IT WON A OSCAR crap, and go see at the movies to find out it was CRAP.

  • Barry

    Why doesn’t she stop crying, get back in the kitchen, and make me a sandwich.

  • Wartar

    I agree with previous posters, Hurt Locker is an average movie and it should’t have received an Oscar!

    Instead +1 for Avatar :)

  • TPBGirl

    It wasn’t THAT good of a movie! lol

    And the sad part about it is the people who made it stole the story, word for word from one of our USA Soldiers and who is the one who coined the term “Hurt Locker”. He has an ongoing lawsuit with them over the rights to the story. Even the images. So if HE wins the lawsuit, I will be happy to send him $5 for the movie. Otherwise Hollywood can kiss my ***.

    http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/hurt-locker-sued-over-stolen-identity-do-not-publish-14850

    I would say Hollywood cant collect until the lawsuit is settled or they need the money to settle this lawsuit. lol

  • Doink

    Hurt Locker, the crappiest movie i have seen in a long time. downloading it would be a waist of time and bandwidth. everyone who downloaded it should be suing the makers for releasing such an awful movie.

  • Huh?

    I liked hurt locker, it was a lot better then green zone. They just didn’t market it at all. I never even heard about it then I saw it on bittorrent one day.

    But yeah, time to start seeding it just on general principle.

  • Cords

    You’ve just GOT to hate the USA…

    First they make a BAD propaganda movie about their IMMORAL and imperialist war in Iraq, where they are not wanted and have no business being…

    Then when the film flops, they decide to pull a scam and blackmail American ISPs into handing over user details, and intimidate or sue American citizens for trying to watch the propaganda…

    No wonder that country is going to hell in a handbasket.

    All the while gullible Americans believe they live in the “Land of the Free”

    Unbelievable.

  • James

    Instead of going after persons on Bit T they should go to the local flea markets there’s guys selling pirated DVD’s of current run movies right out in the open every weekend for $20 a DVD.

  • lulz

    I was so disappointed in this pile of shit movie anyhow to download it (Watched at a friends).

  • Ben Hurr

    The problem is that with civil suits they exploit a quirk in how the justice system works, in that it’s more costly in time and money to defend yourself from bullshit litigation than to just pay up. >:c

  • Lou Dean

    ROTFL, if you didnt mask your real IP address in the first place then I guess you deserve the letter.

  • Anonymous

    I “bought” it from internet while ago but I think the movie sucks so… I didn’t watch it yet.

  • Einstein

    I am still wondering why did that movie win the Oscar? The obvious answer is that Hollywood and politics have become inseparable. That is the only possible reason the Oscar wasn’t given to Avatar, a movie that promotes environmental responsibility, but instead it went to THL, a movie about modern war.
    The fact that THL didn’t make “a lot” of money shows that the movie wasn’t good enough, certainly not good enough to deserve an Academy Award (I myself didn’t see it at the theaters and didn’t download it either–thank heavens!)

  • Mark

    If I download a movie on BT, and I end up only uploading like 10kb, surely I havnt ‘file shared’ therefore I havnt done as much wrong.

    If I were to take my copy of the film, burn 200 DVDs and sell them for $5 each, then I would be in the wrong.

    This whole industry is dying because it cannot adapt to the changing times.

    Find a better business model that gives the market what it wants. Access to movies over the internet for little cost, on DRM free media. So if I bought the movie for $2 on the internet, thats ok! As its cheap enough not to make a difference, less than a cup of coffee, and they are getting money.

    Price Elasticity of Demand motherfuckers!

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  • Anon

    Just a ploy to get more people to see it. What a bunch of crap.

  • George

    The movie sucked anyway.

  • Anonymous

    First, while I did enjoy the movie, it’s curious that so many people seem to equate profit with quality. This would make Nickelback a great band and most symphonies garbage, which seems like a strange way of awarding merit.

  • blablaface

    So if I run out and buy it, what grounds would this case have?

  • Anonymous

    It’s a decent movie but didn’t deserve the Oscars. In 5 years no one will remember it.

  • Charbax

    It won Oscars BECAUSE of BitTorrent. Morons.

  • Lothor The Evil

    I believe the reason the makers of The Hurt Locker are going to do this mass “pay up or else” scheme is because they might lose a lawsuit against them.
    It would have been nice if you included at least a brief description of this lawsuit.
    Here is some info I found:
    A New York Times blog dated, March 4, 2010:
    http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/a-lawsuit-for-hurt-locker-in-time-for-oscars/
    [quote]“In the suit, which also names the movie’s other producers, its director, Kathryn Bigelow, its distributors, and Playboy, Sergeant Sarver claims that the character played by Jeremy Renner was based on him and shared many of his characteristics (from looks to personal history). By portraying him as a “messed up” soldier, the “Hurt Locker” team defamed him, Sergeant Sarver says.”[quote]

    And another news site, dated March 4, 2010:
    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/sgt.s_suit_says_messed_up_character_in_hurt_locker_/
    [quote]“In a lawsuit filed yesterday in federal court in New Jersey, Master Sgt. Jeffrey Sarver says the low-budget, critically applauded movie invaded his privacy and misappropriated his likeness and name—and even his “Blaster One” nickname. It also asserts claims for fraud, negligent misrepresentation and emotional distress, reports the Carpetbagger blog of the New York Times.”[quote].

    The Los Angeles Times:
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2010/03/was-the-hurt-locker-based-on-a-real-bomb-disposal-experts-life.html

    ABC News:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/hurt-locker-hurt-controversies/story?id=10000911

  • steve

    I’m going to download this on the torrents to see what it’s like now.
    thanks for the reminder!!

  • Gasper Gomez

    Lets be real fellas The Hurt Locker was spectacular! But jumping on the bandwagon to sue torrent users for poor sales is silly, considering Oscar winning movies rarely ever result in high sales. In fact, I can’t remember the last Oscar winning movie that was a Box Office success.

  • steve

    Give them a call.
    http://www.voltagepictures.com/contact.htm

    send them an email.

    ask them about Pandora.

  • neostyles

    It’s their movie. Looks like they are starting to fight back.

  • YouPeopleRIdiots

    First off, this movie is actually pretty great. Second, it IS accurate, considering I am a US marine, and I highly doubt any of you are.

  • 133t

    @71

    am glad am not a u.s marine, that way i don’t have trot around the world killing innocent civilians in the name of war on terrorism ! the movie sucked balls nobody had even heard of it till it made it Oscars and it only made it Oscars because ass licking u.s media industry lobbying up to the govt on a failed mission!

  • JYH3

    This type of stuff really scares me. I used to think that I would just be in danger if I was an uploader, but now as a downloader you are fair game too. I mean, I’m not a newb, but after doing a bit of research, I’m seeing that I’m apparently in no way safe as I thought I was when torrenting: I use PeerGuardian and Transmission and use the Encryption/Bad Peer Block on both, but apparently, this protects me in no way aside from ISP throttling? I’m now freaked even to open my Torrent Client. Will I now have to switch to UseNet? It’d be nice to know how to be safe from this sort of thing when torrenting, and I’m now very scared of what may come in the mail in the coming weeks. I know I can’t afford a settlement. And in the end, the worst irony is I haven’t even gotten an opportunity to watch the film yet…

  • KPG

    You idiots claiming it’s a “pro-war propaganda movie” are so stupid. It’s unbiased, but if you reeeeheeheally wanted to read a bias into it, there’s no way you could avoid noting an anti-war bias.

  • DS

    @71

    BS… The movie wasn’t about Marine’s. The soldier depicted in the movie were in the US Army EOD.

    Second, it was not “real” ask any service member over there, in any branch. Ask them how manytimes three soldiers would split up?

    Some of the things they do no one would do. The crap was amp’d up for Hollywood. This movie is by no means a “Real” depiction of what goes on over there, nor how the EOD operates.

    Top Gun was great, but as far as depicting “real” aspects of the US Navy? C’mon

  • Pat

    This movie was ripped off from a soldier who they refused to pay.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35688925/ns/entertainment-movies/

    The makers of this film are the real crooks. Hope they fail

  • What???

    Too bad the movie was stupid as hell

  • dwpbike

    dumb movie and we lost the war

  • Henry

    People who like this film probably also like the POS series “The Pacific” too. Complete lack of brains.

  • StevO

    Lets get it on. I would love to discuss this with your lawyers and a jury.

    pointlessemail123@gmail.com

    I will give you my contact information when you email me.

    I can save you millions trying to sue thousands. Take me to court first.
    Also we can work out a payment to me for saving you all that money.
    Theres 3 examples and 2 demonstrations that I have seen ANYBODY on the internet ever discuss that will get ANYONE out of a lawsuit over this.

  • StevO

    crap “never” seen ANYBODY

  • Ok

    If you’re ISP reports your name, please list them here – so they can be blackbanned. Pre-fix with three stars (***) so it can be easy to spot.

    Dear ISPs, if you choose to give our information away freely, particularly to provide 70% funding to anti-piracy groups, you don’t deserve people’s business.

    Love,

    The Internet Community

  • Anonymous

    Smarter people borrow it from a friend and rip the DVD themselves, no downloading, you can then compress it to a smaller size if you want to.

  • moses

    that’s lame… had the film on my netflix film but now I’m not going to watch it out of principle.

  • Anonymous

    I have a feeling the following will comply.

    Hughs Net
    Comcast
    Time Warner
    Verizon
    AT&T (Broadband users)
    Sprint (Broadband users)

    Those seem to be the ones that would comply, since they ALL throttle P2P traffic badly, even legit traffic they enjoy disconnecting and throttling.

  • ROLF

    we will see… :)

  • Paul

    I just love my ISP providing a free SSH tunnel. They also said that they do not track the usage of that tunnel =] If you want to be protected, wear an SSH condom.

  • Anonymous

    Downloaded this through a private tracker. No worries.

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  • Anonymous

    glorification of war is like a video game piece of shit for retarded americans

  • LOL

    Ha I would totally tell them to come pick the money up and shoot the guy in the face that shows up to get it.

  • Anonymous

    The legal fallout against this comapny is going to be fun to watchh.

  • Gargamel

    “We expect that the U.S. equivalent will also meet great opposition.”
    -

    No it won’t. This is the U.S.A we’re talking about here not the UK.

  • Anonymous

    so for those of us worried about this, what’s the average settlement amount? anyone know?

  • bob

    I thought it was a kids movie about a toy locker. I did not know until the download finished then i deleted it.

    am i still going to jail for 6 months?

    lol

  • Jason

    Invading a country with guns and bombs gets you medals and admiration. Deciding I wanted to watch a movie while I sat around, unemployed with a broken elbow means I deserve punishment. I love society.

  • Tiny

    @1
    Me too!

    besides, it was a lousy movie …

  • cherzo

    Very good movie. Far better than that piece of crap Avatar.

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree 101. The problem is TF readers don’t appreciate good movies :( They’re too young and stupid

  • Uh huh

    Yeah Anon, the movie was average. Even before all of this I believed it. And my taste in movies doesn’t suck. Some of my favorite movies were Citizen Kane, Taxi Driver & dog Day Afternoon. Avatar was a better movie but this is the kind that gets awards unless you are doing a “time” piece like Age of Innocence or Amadeus. They will be remembered more for this than anything else. Even before this, it film is a year for the forgotten Oscars.

    The producers who are going to sue you:

    Greg Shapiro Producer
    Kathryn Bigelow Producer
    Nicolas Chartier Producer
    Mark Boal Producer
    Tony Mark Executive Producer
    Donall McCusker Co-Producer
    Jack Schuster Associate Producer
    Jenn Lee Associate Producer
    Kirk Shaw Associate Producer

    Don’t forget Vulture or Voltage pictures as well. There’s even word going around that over 20% of the dl’ers are US soldiers. Stay classy!

  • Uh huh

    Oh btw, Up in the Air was a far better movie with a more interesting message and storyline than the war movie where no Americans die; even the guy who who defuses 1,000 bombs.

  • ascareddownloader

    As a person who is scared, does anyone know the number of times the hurt locker was downloaded? I kinda want to see my odds.

    also does anyone know the average settlement amount?

  • StevO

    Oh the ISPs would LOVE to stop bittorent. That way they can PAY LESS for bandwidth and RAISE their prices some more. cant wait for a magnetic propulsion bomb to send everything back to the 1920s.

  • Punk

    Fuck! And now Oscar winners are doing it too!

  • Jojo

    From what I’ve read they only seem to be going after people who used bittorrent. What about everybody else? People who used bittornday, Utorrent, bitcommet, etc?

    What a load of crock, the movie was “ehh” at best. I’ll be damned if I ever pay to see one of the movies that company puts out.

  • Ninja

    If online popularity hasn’t been converted into revenue then the movie must be horrible.

    But I’m wondering how many thousands will change ISPs in the process. And I’d pay to see them suing a few million ppl. Oh how I would.

  • Owen Finn

    Simple defense – I downloaded the data but never compiled/”unrared” the movie.

  • Anonymous

    Best movie in History. Everyone who downloaded this should have to pay dearly for ripping off something that obviously took so much time and hard work to make…

    JFK I downloaded it myself and shut it off about half way through :-P

  • ack

    Damn downloaded it to watch with a friend and never got around to actually watching it.. Curious if anyone knows the average settlement for the previous movies this tactic was used for.

  • HOTHOTHOT

    According to lawyers at Dunlap’s firm, 75 percent of ISPs have cooperated fully. Those that have resisted are mostly doing so, they say, because of the amount of work involved in handing over thousands of names. But the clock may be ticking. For example, in the lawsuit over “Far Cry,” Comcast has until next Wednesday to file motions to quash subpoenas. (Here’s the stipulation by the parties.) By the end of next week, thousands of Comcast subscribers could be turned over.

    Of the some 50,000 individuals who have been sued thus far, only three have tried to quash the subpoena. In one instance, a Georgia man tried to invoke the state’s shield law protecting journalists from having to disclose their sources. The judge denied the motion. In another instance, a woman successfully got a court to throw out the subpoena because her IP address wasn’t listed in the original complaint. Unfortunately for her, the complaint was then amended.

    After unmasking individuals who have illegally downloaded films, the U.S. Copyright Group then sends a settlement offer.

    Lawyers at the firm are seeing some returns on the first two lawsuits filed back in January. About 40 percent have settled, according to the U.S. Copyright Group. Those who haven’t settled will be sent another round of settlement offers, and the group promises to eventually serve lawsuits on these individuals.

    Since we first broke news about the litigation campaign, Dunlap says he’s been besieged by e-mails from 20 to 30 independent film groups that have expressed frustration about rampant piracy and interest in joining up. The firm plans to send people to this month’s Festival de Cannes, where they’ve already arranged meetings with a number of other film producers to discuss further lawsuits.

  • Anonymous

    Crash, Slumdog Millionaire, American Beauty, The Hurt Locker.
    Stop giving the “best” picture award to whiny political garbage.

  • xconomicron

    how long do ISPs keep logs of user information? i slightly remember seeing this movie a long, long, long time ago…cant remember if i used a torrent or not…but when i do i always have pblock on and when im not..i use a vpn. so when should i expect a pay up letter if i did?

  • Doink

    Avatar best of the best.

    as far as hurt locker goes, complete garbage. you need to be brain dead to watch that crap.

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  • Flop Locker

    You’ll find the reviews at IMDB relatively negative too with lots of “crap” compliment

    Simply said Hurt Locker is huge FLOP

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  • Anonymous

    one positive thing we could get is a list of the isp providers who aren’t cooperating…

    Could be a good add.

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if owning a copy of the DVD would make having downloaded from BT a matter of fair use, time-shifting, format-shifting, etc?

  • LOL

    the hurt locker was an ok movie, just ok

  • question

    are bittorrent and utorrent different programs and torrents?

  • CatsAreHere

    Well, I’ve seen this film twice and It still fails on story telling and it tries too hard on the psychology of soldiers working in these conditions. The pace was very poor, camera work seems like a Paul Greengrass bad copy (I loved the Bourne trilogy, and the acting wasn’t very engaging. I was hoping for Moon to get up there. I still can’t believe that this film won that award for the Oscars.

    I had high hopes for this film when I first saw the trailer. And this news article really compounds the fact that these right holders are simply greedy bastards. Movie industry grew last year and will grow again this year (planning to go see Iron Man 2, Inception, How to train your Dragon, and Machete).

  • ToughCritics

    I thought it was great. Different kind of war film than those about Vietnam and WWII but, then again, its about a different kind of war.

  • T@rmenteD

    I think users should unite and sue their ISP’s for providing them your IP adresses in the first place !

  • Mike

    Okay I was looking around for information and I found a list from the Far Cry case.
    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100331/1443278816.shtml

    I know its not indicative but utorrent isnt listed as a protocol thats tracked.(at least for this list and this time) Is it safe to be a little less worried about this for now?

  • Lama

    Thank god I only payed $2 to see that movie ..Damn what a waist of time and my $2..

  • Meeee

    Mike, I’m no expert in these matters but I believe Bittorrent and Utorrent are basically the same thing. Bittorrent owns Utorrent. So if I’m not mistaken they use the same seeders/files/etc. as each other. In other words, it just lists Bittorrent, but I’d assume it’s just because it’s the parent company. With that said I’d love to see these guys get money out of me. Bring it baby ;)

  • aesir

    Movie really sucked big time, plot was mundane, there was no requirement for tremendous actor performance, and the finale was… boring. When I watched the movie I was wondering how the hell it won any oscars!!! Should have won nothing else but razzies…

  • TheAwfulParsnip

    The Shit Locker

  • iKode

    What happens if you own the movie on disc? Some discs are difficult to rip.

    I think if they sent reasonable settlement offers like 2x the cost of the DVD instead of 150k they would get more money and less criticism.

  • qewrty

    LOLsuits ho!!!!

  • fred

    if all refused to pay how are they going to sue all 10,000?

  • 1strule

    MTB, STFU!

  • gsmack

    utorrent, bittorrent, transmission, vuze, they’re all the same thing….the program (client) you’re using isn’t the issue, it’s the protocol the program uses to get and give data. and they all use the same protocol.

    if you used a torrent client to download the hurt locker via a public tracker (presumably just in the last few months since they started tracking the data) you’re at risk of being sued.

    here’s the plan on their end: their interested in the people that bowl over easily. the 40% who agree to pay without a fight. that’s the anticipated revenue stream that’s driving this action. it’ll make them a few million bucks.

    for everyone that doesn’t bowl over, they can’t afford (time or money) to sue them all, so they’ll sue a handful. WHY? because they have to prove to everyone else that they were always willing to do so. they have to make an example. otherwise, next time they try this tactic with a different film, maybe only 20% will agree to pay…and it’ll keep getting smaller.

    but really, they’re not interested in pressing lawsuits. they’re interested in the people they can scare into paying out easily.

  • gsmack

    But it’s a crap shoot. If you refuse to settle, you might never pay a dime. They might drop the case with you. But if you’re one of the 1 or 5% of people they decide to press the issue with, you’ll have to defend yourself or settle at a much higher rate, and it’ll end up costing you a lot more than if you settled to start.

    It will be a small %age though. There just aren’t enough lawyers at this so-called “firm” to handle several thousand individual lawsuits which take tons of time.

    In short:

    Step 1) Get a bunch to settle for a few million bucks total.
    Step 2) Sue a few of the rest and win big, costing those people boatloads of money as opposed to just small piles.
    Step 3) Make big press of the fact that they won these lawsuits and costed some people tons of money.
    Step 4) Goto step 1, repeat with new film.

    Without step 2, you can’t repeat the process because your threats have no teeth.

  • Meeee

    Wouldn’t the fact that movie was on torrents 5 months before it was out in theaters kind of kill their credibility though? How do we know they didn’t just release it themselves with the intention of suing people who downloaded it later on?

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  • gsmack

    It doesn’t matter who put it on the internet. If they did, they own the copyright, so they had the right to. Once you take it via bittorrent, you share it with others, which you don’t have the right to do. EVEN IF YOU WERE GIVEN IT FREELY BY THEM.

    Sure, it might be a trap (for the record, I highly doubt that) but to say that they’ve done wrong is like saying that you did something wrong when someone stole your patio furniture. You left it out for them to take!

    Yes, I realize copyright infringement is not theft. The point in my example is just to make clear that there are certain rights you have that they don’t, even if you all have access.

    They have the right to distribute it however they see fit, you do not. They can give it away to ANYONE and EVERYONE for free and still tell those people that they can’t redistribute it themselves. In fact, if you read the EULAs of some free software you’ll encounter that restriction, and there are a variety of reasons they might do so. They might want an accurate count of who’s getting it. They might want to stop distributing it at some point, or when a certain # of copies have been given. The point is that they have the right of determination, you don’t.

  • Meeee

    Ehh, I could care less what rights they have, good luck getting money out of me =D

  • gsmack

    Oh, I;m not defending them. I find their actions reprehensible. They’re using the government to strong-arm people who can’t afford to have their day in court due to the high cost of civil proceedings. It’s complete crap. I’m just explaining the situation as it is.

  • informed

    I think you are all missed the most important point in all of this. ISP’s can HAND OVER to anyone who waves a piece of groundless paper at them your name, address, phone number, credit card information, your dog/cat’s name, where you went to school, etc. without even ATTEMPTING to defend your privacy rights. Sure it’s all about piracy today, but what when it’s your POLITICAL VIEWS or opinions on a subject that some lawyer DEMANDS that you are sued for libel or Slander? Won’t be so funny then. You have been INformed.

  • tones

    What if, ahem, someone else used your unsecured network? Can you still be held liable for that, or is it a technicality?

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s pretty hilarious how most of the comments here completely overlook the biggest issue. That people are illegally downloading and distributing copyrighted media.

    If you guys have a problem with the movie, or the lawsuits, or the ISPs providing info, here’s a thought: Then don’t steal movies (or music).

    ahh, but then you’d have to actually pay for it instead of pretending to live in a world where it should be free, just because you want it to.

  • RIAA

    Hahaha your all going to get sued

  • bobby

    Relative noob here, but how long do public trackers keep records of ip addresses? Is there any record of something I dl’d in January lying around somewhere?

  • kellen c

    Well, I guess we’ll see just how useful PeerBlock is…

  • informed

    ‘Anonymous’ said:

    “I think it’s pretty hilarious how most of the comments here completely overlook the biggest issue. That people are illegally downloading and distributing copyrighted media. ”

    Again missing the POINT. ISP’s handing over your PRIVATE name, address, phone number, what you had for lunch, etc. I think is way more important than the copyright issue itself. This is the thin end of the wedge. The cowardly ISP’s can’t be bothered to protect your PRIVATE information because it is too much of a bother. Now ANYONE can request that an ISP hand over all of your private information, so long as you have a lawyer dream up a REASON. Be careful what you say and who you say it to because ‘I’ can get a lawyer to drum up a order and get the ISP to HAND OVER everything I need to know about you. You have been INformed.

  • anony

    Is downloading 1% of the file (i never bothered to finish the download) counted as downloading it as a pirate?

  • Anonymous

    To Informed:

    of course you think handing that info over is more important than your theft. Because you’re not the one being stolen from.

    I do agree it is troubling, though unsurprising, that they would hand over the personal info of their customers. However, those customers are engaged in illegal activity.

    You use slippery slope reasoning to make this a privacy issue. While that concern is there, you can’t ignore that the illegal activity is tied to it. Someone used the example of not liking someone’s political views so the ISP rat’s them out. This is not that case. I’m sure the ISP’s are nervous because they don’t want to be help partly responsible for the illegal activities of their users.

    If people don’t like it, then don’t steal digital content. Then if ISP’s start giving personal info based on political views, that’s the time to get up in arms.

    Right now it’s like arguing that the DMV shouldn’t give out your personal info from the license plate you used on a getaway car.

  • $$$

    So what is the expected price of settlement?

  • paul

    It’s a great movie. I really don’t see why people hate on it so much. I guess they don’t like war related films?

    Also, having traveled to Arab countries, they capture that sort of feel you find there.. it’s hard to explain. I’ve not been to Iraq, but just about every country that borders it so close enough.

  • FU_movie_industry

    It all comes down to this:head honchos making more money with their scare tactics and sharing a small portion with their greedy evil lawyers! If the f**king movie theaters dropped their pricing then maybe people would go to the movies more BUT NOOOOOO! They have to jack up everything especially in this poor economic status the U.S.A is currently in. IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL and MONEY!!! sharing and stealing are two different things. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS! Let’s get a petition going people!! The laws are very hypocritical!!’Land of the ‘FREE’ WHATEVER!!

  • FU_movie_industries

    So it’s ok to illegally pry open my locked files and look into my very private documents even though the US law has a privacy act.
    Under the Federal Privacy Act you have the right to:
    Sue the Government for violations of the Act, including allowing others unauthorized access to your personal information.

  • Adi

    That movie was just shit anyway. A total waste of bandwidth.

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  • nuker02

    the reason it made so little was 1 it was shit and 2 only a handfull of cinemas showed it. of around 20 cinemas listing i saw only 1 screened the movie and they only screened it once in the smallest screen they had.

    where as all 20 of em had avatar which was on in 2 screening 3-5 times a day.

  • Ratzinger

    ***Initiate download***

  • Steve

    not that i downloaded it.. watched it a friends house and decided falling asleep during a movie isn’t worth the time to download it and fall asleep during it again..

    the question i have is.. sharing over p2p.. exactly how is that different than going to a friends place and watching it.. or say my roomate buying a movie and lending it to 50 friends…

    seems the studio is trying to squeeze every last drop they can out of this.. and the sad thing is.. the people they’re attacking are likely the people who took the time to watch it in the theaters.. or rather.. their own fans… you piss off your fans enough they stop watching your movies and pretty quick.. nobody cares..

    this is complete rubbish… they can’t possibly think that they’ll make money out of this.. all the lawyer fees, and court dates… sure they have lots of money.. but this would kill their budget.. especially if people start defaulting after they lose in court.

  • sledgehammer

    So who’s more in danger- those who downloaded in the months before the Oscars, or the 3 million pirates who got it afterward?

  • neb

    “Leaked?” I threw that movie out 3 times before I finally gave it away.

    I wonder how I got a dvd rip of “The Lovely Bones” a month before release?

    Hogwash, if you want money from me, Helen Wait is my credit manager.

    Why not sue all BT users for breathing?

    The technology is there…….

    POS

  • Crushit

    There going by ip No’s?. How many times have you started to D/L and given up because there wasn’t to many seeders. Wouldn’t they have to make sure you got every bit of the movie. My media player won’t play unless I get the whole amount of bites. Because of the different sizes of the D/L I would want to make sure that they prove that I d/L the movie they say I did with the correct bite size.
    I think we should think more local and try getting back to a BB format like we all did before the net got to everyone. We use to share software locally using modems.It was slow 1 meg every five minutes, at the time we thought it was fast. Imagine what we could do locally if we banded together. People on the BB take turns d/L a movie and then shareing it with the rest. Smarter people then I can probable figure something out. In our part of the world 85% are on the net so if you kept the BB within 100 mile radius, we can all download to our hearts content because the fatcat lawyers wouldn’t know where to start looking, other then the big cities where they live.
    Just an idea.

  • mario

    they are suing people that are stealing, makes sense to me

  • Momba

    These fools want a fight – I say bring it on!

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  • Anonymous

    It would be great if someone with some sort of journalistic ability starting following this story and tracking its status.

    Which ISP’s will cooperate? How much will the settlement requests be? What are a person’s options if they are being targeted? Where can they find a knowledgable lawyer to assist them?

  • steal???

    how can u steal something that can be massed produced with a touch of a button..if u can make a copy of something with out materials being used and there is nothing missing then its not stolen…if that person did not have money to buy it and did not plan to and downloaded the movie how can u say he was stealing it. what if a friend bout the movie and brought it over 20 different friends houses whats the dif?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • VPN

    VPN

    lol lol lol lol lol lol

  • Anonymous

    Settlement will be $1500 like the others I think

  • Anonymous

    settlement will probably be $1500 like the other films, much cheaper than fighting it. It is stealing after all.

  • Nutman

    Glad I pirated this shitty movie. Worst war movie ever made. Almost fell asleep. Too bad you won’t catch me for d/ling it.

  • Anonymous

    Worst movie i have ever seen. You want a good war movie? Watch Platoon, it gives people a good idea of how evil US Soldiers really are.

    You should also check out Avatar, a brilliant movie with cutting-edge technology and a positive message.

  • whatever

    shit movie, and oh yeah … kathryn bigelow can fuk off & die

  • Lilysaidmoo

    What’s funny is that I use private trackers which they don’t bother with.

    So not only did I get this in HD and at ludicrously fast speeds, but I was also out the spot-light. I’m also not a U.S. citizen.

    It’s win-win-win for me xD

    (yeah, it’s a good film, but it’s a douchebaggery like this that means I won’t be legitimately adding it to my bluray archive)

  • Jeff

    Private trackers FTW.

    I thought it was pretty good. Very suspenseful and if you fell asleep go back to movies that hold your hand like Avatar and sitcoms with laugh tracks. As for those who compare how much money Hurt Locker made compared to Avatar you are dumb as hell. Avatar cost $300+ MILLION to make and market, complete with the fast food tie ins and all that other who cares BS. Avatar was a HUGE budget, big studio, GIANT release directed by effing James Cameron. Hurt Locker was an extremely small ($15 million or so) budget film, with a little known director. Hurt Locker had a very small release, but a very high per screen average. You had to be living in a cave to not hear about Avatar or see commercials or other marketing gimmicks, but I never saw one commercial for Hurt Locker until after Oscar nominations. It’s like comparing Spiderman to an independent film. I’m not saying Avatar was bad, just that the comparison is ludicrous.

  • Adele

    Kind of douchey thing to do from my perspective.

  • Poo

    Well I pay for Netflix, so theoretically I pay for access to this and countless other movies. It would kind of hard to prove I am denying anybody their monies.

    That said, I guess we are about to test PeerBlock’s effectiveness. :-)

  • clever colin

    This is why I stop seeding as soon as the download completes.

  • hahahah

    fuck them all !!! rrrgh !! a pirate life 4 me !! take it all give nothing back !!

  • Monkeyspank6000

    $600 is still less than what it costs for a family of 5 for admission to see a movie and the added cost to gorge on high-fructose corn syrup, trans-fats and cholesterol! :-D

  • Jonathan

    savecinema.org?! Save Cinema?! The nerve, this kind of carry-on doesn’t save cinema. I also didn’t realise that the cinema was in need of saving in the first place…

  • toneii

    Those who didn’t download the entire file, just even a teeny bit – you are still culpable. All it takes it one block of the material to be shared and you are committing the crime. Taking it to friends house is allowed under the license agreement.

    I rented the movie from Blockbuster. Found it rather disappointing. Seemed like the same type of hyped up drawn out suspense scene formula over and over about 4 or 5 times.

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  • Anonymous

    viva la private tracker, suck it Hollywood!

  • StevO

    After reviewing a couple movies i dloaded, i have not seen anything in the beginning of the movies telling me i cannot distribute them.
    Morally i know i shouldnt, but legally im just a deer in the headlights.

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  • Rach

    God you guys are rebels without a cause.

  • Anon
  • Mushroom Punch

    When they say BitTorrent users are they using it as a proper noun? Or are they using it as a normal noun? If they are just using it as an umbrella word…they shouldn’t capitalize it. Voltage pictures should use some of their lawsuit money for a grammar lesson.

  • Rob

    Was going to buy this one Blu Ray, not any more.

  • tones

    Well the latest news is that Time Warner Cable has refused to identify the IP’s that the same copyright group wants for downloading Uwe Boll’s flick ‘Far Cry.’ Comcast and Cablevision are reportedly balking as well. I wonder what effect this will have on the Hurt Locker case.

  • Red

    Dumb fucks cant have their cake and eat it too.

    First off, they won the best movie for 2009 – 2010, and the movie was first released in 2008 for starters, but of course, they did win an oscar, so its not like they are going to be too public about that, are they?

    Second, the movie was a straight to DVD release in Brazil, but was soon taken off the market when they got the idea that they were getting a theatrical release.

    Third… fuck em. If I want to pay for it, I will pay for it.

  • JD

    Has anyone received one of the letters yet and how much is the offer to settle? Is comcast cooperating with these people?

  • skippy

    Hurt Locker only had such low revinues because it was shite,give it all the gongs you want,but the paying public voted with there wallets!

  • Brah

    I was happy to see that it won the oscar when it did, but this kinda worries me.

    I understand that indie ought to be paid better than it is…but then it’s not indie (at least to me), it’s business.

    I’m glad that it won over avatar because avatar is pure fucking business. It’s about money…and the reason that it probably has less press about people downloading it illegally is because it’s hard to get a good picture if it’s in 3D.

    3D is the new way to prevent illegal downloads.

  • tonyj

    The Hurt Locker was a good film, it wasn’t a great film and I don’t think it should have won an Oscar for best film.

    Here’s a thought: Why don’t you greedy producers allow DL’rs the option to pay for their download, say $9.99 instead of tying up the legal system with one court case after another. I just can’t but help think that your legal fees are going to wipe out any profit you may have made with “out of court settlements.”

  • neb

    The infringement comes when one uses lightscribe and creates cases.

    Then puts them for sale…

    THAT is copyright infringement.

    Not using our paid-for band-width for the exchange of information from the cloud (web)

    These legal folks are using a 19mm wrench on a 14mm bolt head.

    I am beginning to see that the entire BT/FS is being controlled by these nonexistant snivilers, and all this BS is for our entertainment
    only.

    BTW, there are good journalists here, they run this site.

  • Mikey D

    I had seen Hurt Locker in the movie theaters and I also purchased it on BluRay. I regret that I did. This is clearly another money hungry business trying to take advantage of poor people across the country. I for one won’t be seeing anymore movies that come out of Voltage Films

  • Anonymous

    Where are all the people who recieved settlements letters when ?US copyright group tried this crap with those other movies months ago? I can’t seem to find a trace of anyone anywhere on the web that actually knows what these letters read like

  • call congressmen

    CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN!!! CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN!!!

    It is important to call your senators and congressmen to let them know about this extortion/shakedown scheme. You can make a difference but you have to call or pyhsically write letters. or if you want DO BOTH. when you call read/write the following:

    “I wanted to inform the congressman about an important issue. Currently there is legal extortion going on in this country. A Group of Lawyers using the name US Copyright Group are filing thousands and thousands of lawsuits in federal court in washington DC. They are actually ilegally bundleing thousands of people’s names together in an effort to have a kind of reverse class action lawsuit against people it claims have illegally downloaded movies of their clients.

    “This US Copyright group is sending out 50,000 plus presettlement letters to people using filmsy evidence which basically tell them “Pay us 4,000 dollars or else we will take you to federal court and sue you for much more” The congressman needs to know that this is a shakedown, an extortion scheme. A group of 12 lawyers cannot possibly take 50,000 plus people individually to court. They are counting on a certain percentage of people recieving the letter and getting scared and mailing in the payment. Innocent people will have to pay much more than the settlement price in order to prove their innocence and the only evidence of wrongdoing is easily corrupted and invalid. But the US copyright group could care less how many innocent people are sued due to filmsy evidence. The US Copygroup lawyers have said “we are creating additional revenue streams for content providers” They are using the court system to pad their bottom lines.

    Tell the congressman to please work to change copyright law with monetary caps on individual people and enact legislation that would outlaw these “revese class action fishing lawsuits from goups like the US copyright group” because this is only the beggining. If the US Copyright group is successful, expect copycat companies to emerge to use the same tactics. So it would be beneficial for the congressman to get on the forefront of this issue becuase you will be recieving more calls about it soon.
    ————————————————————————————————————-

    You can also call multiple congressmen in your area, just look at what the congressman’s local office zip code is and say you live in that zip code.

    I personally know a person who has cracked 1 neighbor’s WEP protection and uses a 2nd unsecured router (lives in apartment building), this friend isn’t even tech savy but he doesn’t want to pay for interent and saw instructions on how to do it in under a minute. He laughs about it saying that if his neighbors gets sued it’s not coming back to him. actually he says “F*** Em if they can’t take a joke” So for all the idiots on this board saying that pirates deserve to be sued into oblivion, think twice!! it could be you getting a letter one of these days on faked, forged, or stolen data

  • JD

    How many people are they planning on sending letters?

  • -=-=-=-

    Why does anyone bother with torrent sites?
    Questionable encoding etc.

    Borrow it from the local library or Netflix.
    Rip it and return it.

  • bitfiddler

    “Millions for Defense, not a penny for tribute” John Adams

  • Anonymous

    just use utorrent instead :P

  • anonatron

    lol funny… in the movie the dude buys bootlegs… can you say hypocrite.

  • E. Peterson

    Anyone who watched the wikileaks video of real U.S. soldiers in Iraq instantly saw what a weak and compromised movie Hurt Locker really was. If it weren’t for those retard producers suing their viewers and the Academy’s need to deliver an F-you to Cameron, this movie would never be remembered.

  • Anonymous

    I might have gotten a letter. Shady envelope from Verizon. It has black lines on the front and the back, and it says that it contains important billing information.

    I would find it likely that they do not want people talking about it on the internet, and it is a strong possibility that the contents of the envelope say that if you discuss its contents, they could sue you for more. Just speculating.

    If I don’t post again within the next 24 hours, then that’s probably what happened. Either that or men in black suits came to my house and took me away to a secret facility.

    One of the two.

  • Anonymous

    well keep us posted if anyone sees a letter.

    I read that if you do settle you are unable to talk to anyone about the terms of said settlement so that will make details scarce.

  • Anonymous

    it was not the letter, just some spam from Verizon. :-/

  • Anonymous

    I believe you would receive an emaill from Verizon well before you got any snail mail.

  • Megs

    shoulda made it in 3D like her ex did, then we would have gone to the movies to watch it.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/18/voltage-pictures-pre.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29

    the producer is really making himself look stupid. I really hope this all blows up I. His face.

    In the meantime why is there no mention anywhere on the web of people receiving citations for this yet?

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    Come and get me!!

  • bill gate

    fuck mpaa

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