Megaupload Founder Kim Dotcom: “We’re Going To Win”

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February 27, 2012
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After several failed attempts, last week Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom was finally granted bail and freed from prison. After initially spending time with his wife and children, Kim agreed to share his thoughts with TorrentFreak. For a man whose just had everything he owns taken away from him, he is effortlessly composed and quietly confident.

The Internet. We take this astonishing network for granted as we send our daily emails and catch up on the daily news.

Many of us can’t handle being offline for more than a few minutes. An ISP outage or cellphone breakdown often signals furious nail biting and a unique technological form of isolation anxiety.

For Kim Dotcom, the founder of the now-defunct Megaupload file-hosting service and a man whose fame and fortune was largely made online, communicating via purely AFK methods is now a fact of daily life.

After being denied bail on several occasions, at the North Shore District Court on February 22nd Judge Nevin Dawson finally agreed to Kim’s release. Although he is allowed to have a computer, the strict terms of Kim’s bail dictate a total ban on Internet access.

A few hours ago, armed with a good old-fashioned telephone, TorrentFreak spoke with Kim at his New Zealand home. So how is he bearing up after the ordeals of the past few weeks?

“I’m fine thanks,” he reassured us in a cheerful tone. “I’m only just catching up.”

During the days since his release Kim says he’s enjoyed spending time with his wife Mona and their children – a quiet family time in stark contrast to the events of January 19th.

“You should have been here, it was amazing, it was like a war zone. Armed police everywhere….two helicopters,” Kim recalled. “The New Zealand authorities certainly put on a show for the FBI.”

But if the dramatic events of that morning – elite anti-terrorist police running around with assault rifles and shouting about bombs – are bothering Kim inside, he certainly isn’t letting it show.

Mirroring the tone of the discussions TorrentFreak had with the larger-than-life entrepreneur last year, the Mega founder was as calm and considered as ever. For a man who has not only lost everything (not least all of his companies and tens of millions of dollars) but also faces extradition to the United States, he’s amazingly positive that the battles ahead are winnable.

Those battles, however, will initially have to be fought in New Zealand courtrooms and if the extradition is successful, back in the United States too. Kim is naturally cautious about us revealing too much about Megaupload’s strategy and how the company’s owners intends to counter the claims being made against them, but it’s safe to say that it’s underpinned by a firm belief that on the best legal advice, the business operated legally.

This confidence, Kim says, is shared by his co-defendants – Mathias Ortmann, Bram van der Kolk and Finn Batato.

“We’re going for this and we’re confident we’re going to win. It [the heavy handedness] went way too far, it was out of all proportion,” Kim told TorrentFreak. “We feel that the action taken against us was political.”

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- Anonymous
  
  Go Kim go! :D Even if I do think you are a bit crazy in the head! :P
  
  Kick some MAAFIA ass! XD
  - Caladol1
    
    sadly nowadays support is more important than reason, but sharing is caring. and with enough momentum, we are legion as we are many. as we live or die, we will not forget , expect us
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7ZSZE3KQEIRANMXUUP2CVHQJXI TREANJE
      
      Suck it, churka.
    - L T F
      
      Sharing the toys of other kids on their behalf and without their consent is not caring.
      
      Make your own music and share it, then the old “sharing is caring” saying will apply.
    - Hot
      
      LTF:
      
      You mean looking at the toys the other kids have without their consent, when they were charging the other kids money to look at it. I’m pretty sure the company still has a videogame after someone downloads it. Amazing that copyright trolls continue to use the “Copying = Stealing” argument, it doesn’t work on any of us.
- Guest
  
  The US federal government is crossed another red-line there.
  
  Not only they broke the supreme law of the land flagrantly (once more) but they managed to do it in a Foreign country this time! Of course the US law is not supposed to apply in NZ as long as NZ remain a sovereign nation. But this is an issue to be addressed by the NZ citizen.
  
  By the way the US constitution explicitly forgive any US gov to enforce any foreign law on US soil or to enforce the US law on sovereign nation such as NZ, England or Spain. Unbelievable!
  
  It is time to petition for the dismissal of the 3 branches of the federal government.
  
  The states need to clean their law books of all these unconstitutional laws creeping around; this or soon USA will no longer be the land of the free but the land of the fascists.
  - 2e4t_
    
    What is this “Constitution” you speak of? Isn’t that, like, some terrorist manifesto?
    - Guest
      
      Oh, just the supreme law of the land you know, the document that made the US what it is the land of the free. Not a big deal you know!
    - L T R
      
      Well the Constitution clearly is not a big deal since the US government can violate it and all the people do is sit on their couch and yell at the TV.
      
      I laugh every time those NRA cowboys say people have the right to own guns to protect themselves against tyranny and otherwise abusive government. Despite having 10 AK-47 and 20 handguns each, they don’t even have the balls to defend the Constitution, the single thing that protects democracy and society against dictatorship!
    - Nnn
      
      Nothing but a piece of paper that got in their way.
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    Bingo. When a person has never physically set foot in another nation, that nation’s laws are NOT supposed to apply to them. Internet or not!
    
    Past time that some countries got HARSH on this and said “Hey, we will prosecute these people under OUR laws! If they have not PHYSICALLY entered your country to do their ‘criminal’ acts, then they will be tried under our laws.
    No, just visiting your country for a vacation does not apply under the former exemption!”
    - Guest
      
      Since there is more than 200 countries on this planet if each country was to enforce their law abroad then basically everything a human being can do would be illegal. This is why the US constitution and the international law forbid this.
      
      This lead to another illegal Federal US practice: Trying to tax foreign income. This is another case where the federal government is trying to enforce the domestic law abroad illegally. Most of the time the foreign income is already taxed by the foreign country once.
    - OMGWTFBBQ
      
      Yes i do hope some troll countries will also ask for extradition on the grounds of “using internet is illegal here” and promise to hang him. Of course just having your data pass through cables that are in said country means you have set foot there. Thus our laws now apply to you.
      
      This so that people understand that it is a bad idea to extradite on the grounds of “your data stream routed through my country”…
    - OMGWTFBBQ
      
      Yes i do hope some troll countries will also ask for extradition on the grounds of “using internet is illegal here” and promise to hang him. Of course just having your data pass through cables that are in said country means you have set foot there. Thus our laws now apply to you.
      
      This so that people understand that it is a bad idea to extradite on the grounds of “your data stream routed through my country”…
  - http://twitter.com/martchand Martain Chandler
    
    I can’t comprehend why the NZ court would cut off his personal net access. Do they think he is a pedophile, too?
    - OMGWTFBBQ
      
      No they fear he is one of the internet’s end bosses. And they don’t want to play him until they have finished typing in all the cheatcodes.
    - Kamiros Pallas
      
      They don’t want to piss off the US more; lest we get on your Nuclear hitlist or something. :shrug:
- Reasoned Murdock
  
  Kim will not win this war with the MAFIAA because sharing copies of ones and zeros is exactly like stealing physical objects. Everyone knows that. At least, that’s what my bosses pay me to say.
  - Megaupload User
    
    COPYING IS NOT THE SAME AS STEALING!!!
    
    It’s not the same when someone takes your car or when someone takes a copy of your car. In the second case, you will not loose the car!
    Of course in reality there is no such thing as taking a copy of a car. But let’s suppose it’s possible. You probably would be quite angry when someone takes your car, but when someone takes a copy, you could just ignore it. Nothing has happened to your valuable possession. Only the other one has more he had before. The only case when this can make you angry is when you are jealous.
- Zionistinvolvment
  
  FREE KIM DOTCOM
- Anonymous
  
  Woila ;) Come bak !
  
  http://www.StudentsCrunch.com
Anonymous

You’ll win, Kim.

Hang in there.
- Anonymous
  
  Most of us are well aware that MegaUpload did remove countless thousands of links as part of their DMCA take-down process. So this whole case is one major overkill and not some minor civil infraction it should have been.
  
  It is quite amazing that the US Government can completely destroy a lawful business due to technical misunderstanding or incompetence. Still this is a War on Infringement and not some isolated case.
  
  Well if Kim Dotcom is denied Internet access then I hope TF can print out these replies and post them to him to let him see that we are (mostly) all behind him and I wish him good luck in the problem time ahead.
  - Lulz
    
    lol a “legal business” LOLZ
  - L T R
    
    In fact, I was often telling myself “Why the hell would I pay for Megaupload? They don’t have copyrighted content! If I’m looking for non-copyrighted content, I can find it all on Youtube!”
    
    Unless a copyrighted video was posted in the last 48 hours, it was not on Megaupload.
    - I R L
      
      But I thought all the tech giants want everyone to store everything they have in “the cloud” which is all Megaupload was. I was considering it as a dead simple means of sharing stuff with my family back home (my videos, personal artwork, photos, etc). Youtube and a few others I looked into weren’t good enough for my needs privacy-wise and useless for anything other than video. I’m just glad I didn’t sign up with Megaupload considering what the US has done in its war over imaginary property. I, like so many others who were, would have been screwed over for doing absolutely nothing wrong or illegal.
http://www.francky.me Franck Dernoncourt

Kim, we stand by you!
- Mwhahaha
  
  Not all of us. Whilst I loathe the fact that the FBI seem to have NZ jurisdiction and the overkill methods in arresting this fat guy, I can’t get with anyone who made a fortune from sharing.
  
  He’s worse than the head of any major label.
  - Anonymous
    
    it’s a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” situation.
    
    while it is not ideal to make money from piracy it is better than the MAFIAA
    - Captain Spannerjack
      
      Hang on, I thought he made money from a subscription-based ‘cloud storage’ service. Seems like it’s up to the users of said service to obey their relevant local laws regarding copying and licensing rights.
      
      If he made money from subscribers and said subscribers then chose to use their subscriptions to upload infringing content then he’s not made money from piracy. If, however he sold access to infringing material then he’d have made money from ‘piracy’. As far as I understand the matter, the former is the case.
      
      It’s very different from the end days of the Hotline scene when shysters were selling access to their servers. That’s the kind of crap that killed the scene.
    - Anonymous
      
      it’s true that he didn’t directly benefit from piracy
      
      but people bought access to MU because of the pirated material, just like how I bought a broadband internet access because of that.
      
      in a sense everyone on the internet benefits from piracy, and it is crazy sueing everybody because of it
    - Rohe
      
      @Spannerjack
      
      That shows the bind the other Filehosters are I understand why RS sees “no land” and had to resort to insane measures. MU simply said: we don’t care and we might delete in some days. And that is a fact they have to show doesn’t matter – because it very does.
      
      If you don’t want to police, but other do it for you, and you spend a huge amount of time fending off uploaders which stuff you need to delete anyway – I doubt thats the job of a freehoster. He should host files, not be a nulling device.
  - Nappa
    
    I agree 100%. I sahre for free and Dotcom gets $ Millions. I have no sympathy for that guy at all!
    - Anonymous
      
      Why do you people come to this site if you don’t like torrenting and filesharing?
    - Kr0nZ
      
      @Anonymous, because trollers seek out to troll people anywhere, anytime. Even going as far as to create multiple aliases to get more trolls. They get some kind of sick twisted joy out of seeing people flame them. I guess its similar to why people bully in school.
      
      I dont understand it myself so I try not to feed them, but some times you just cant resist the urge.
    - Nappa
      
      I’m not against sharing (I share myself… for free!) and “torrenting”. I’m against one who makes millions with such a system. He didn’t share anything, just made big money. If I’m a troll saying that, alright, I’m a troll. And, by the way, that was my first post here ever (this one may be my last too) so that’s my only nickname which I use on many sites ;)
    - Gae
      
      The whole basis of his case is that he was operating a legitimate service, therefore he should be entitled to make money from his business just like anybody else can providing of course that his claims of legitimacy are true.
      
      While the US has of course already decided his business to be illegal… so illegal in fact that they closed it down before any trial to assess wrongdoings has even taken place, his lawyers may yet be able to turn things around and if they do then once again he will return to be operating a legitimate business which makes money from selling online file storage, not from sharing.
    - Nappa
      
      OK, I’m gonna try to explain my point of view (may I have one?). For me sharing is a freedom philosophy and it should remaind free. Dotcom made millions with YOUR sharing (even if his system retributes some uplaoders). You share for free, and he gets rich! Sorry, I don’t agree with that. Period.
      
      Just look at TPB founders. Did they get as rich as Dotcom? No, cause their philosophy was not there. They made money, for sure, but not millions like those MU guys. So yes, I’m a lot into sharing and I hate MAFIAA and all thoses suckers as much as you. I just reject those guys like Dotcom who take huge advantages from such an altruist movement. That’s not fair from my point of view. So I have no sympathy at all for that guy but I’ll continue to share and take what’s sharing for sure. Just don’t ask me to cry for that fucker!
    - Rohe
      
      @Kr0nZ That might be true for pure trolls, but some people want to know where this is all going. The internet shifted the power from corporations and control, to people and ideas (to some extend). If you want to read and see other thoughts, you need to ask people who are at the forefront (legally or not doesn’t matter) of the topic. We never get any reasonable arguments from the “old system”, do we?
      
      You could also call people who think that someone else paid their free leisure content “trolls” to. Just depending how far you want to go.
    - Boltie
      
      @Nappa
      
      You’re an idiot. The man sells online storage. Yes it was used for sharing files others deem to be restricted content but, he ran it legally and abided the laws he had to.
      
      The Pirate Bay is a completely different league. The amount of bandwidth these file hosting services use is immense compared to that of The Pirate Bay (the old one that is, now it’s even less with no tracker). That costs a lot. Advertising wouldn’t cover it alone so subscription is required.
      
      He capitalised on this and good for him. I get the feeling you’re just a little jealous it’s not you. Down with copyright anyway. It’s just a load of bull.
    - Anonymous
      
      if there was no piracy you really think people would buy broadband connections?
      they’d get the cheapest option from their ISP and be done.
      
      so ISP also greatly benefit from piracy.
    - Anonymous
      
      If it was so bad, why were so many people buying into it? He provided a service. You can share for free. If you want to share FASTER, you can pay. Just like with your broadband connection. You CAN get dialup, but then sharing takes awhile, or you can PAY to have a super-duper speedy connection and shares lots, much faster.
      
      You do have broadband, don’t you? Or are you not being hypocritical by sticking to your dialup connection? That’ll stick it to them! Don’t pay for nuthin’. :)
      
      Anyone that can make millions in this economy, my hat’s off to them. He didn’t force anyone to upload, download, pay or otherwise. All choice, my friend….
      
      Tell me your ISP isn’t profiting from your ‘free’ downloading. You pay good money for your fast connection to get the shit you want, for FREE! ROFL!! It isn’t free. We all pay.
      
      On that note….. let me go shopping. I mean, let me check out the top 10 movie downloads. Bah…. same thing.
    - Nappa
      
      OK, he just provided a service and I’m all wrong. Sorry, I didn’t see that earlier. Thank you guys to open my eyes ! Keep going andive with your beautiful philosophy while some greedy people take advantage of that. Fine by me! Cheers.
    - Nappa
      
      * Keep going and live with…
    - Anonymous
      
      greedy people will always make money
      
      but it matters who they are “ripping off” to get that money.
      the MAFIAA is ripping off artists and customers, trying to destroy the internet and sueing poor old ladies for millions
      on the other hand you could use MU just fine without paying Kim Dotcom a dime, it was one of the best cyberlockers for free.
      
      so choose which greedy people you’d rather support ;)
    - Nappa
      
      @Anonymous
      
      Well I agree to that! Your point a view make much sense. i’ll take that in consideration in the future (this is not ironic at all). Thanks for not insulting me by the way.
    - Guest
      
      “Why do you people come to this site if you don’t like torrenting and filesharing?”
      
      Oh just because they are corporate paid trolls spreading fake opinions. This is the new propaganda destined to replace the TV.
    - Wow
      
      Boltie:
      
      Lol. Saying he needs to make more money because bandwidth costs were higher? You’re right, he does need to make more money. He does not need to make millions of dollars MORE than the bandwidth costs though. I agree with Nappa, there is a philosophy here, and he broke it. Yes, he sold a service, but what if TPB charged a monthly fee to use? Dotcom was profiting off of us sharing, but more importantly, profiting off of copyrighted material. How can we claim this is all noncommercial and sharing when one of our “heroes” is a millionaire because of it? Yes, it’s a “service” but he made it harder for everyone to share by implementing shitty time and download restrictions, and then asking you to pay to get rid of them. This is the reason bittorrent is so wonderful, and in-application magnet link searching will be so wonderful when it’s perfected. Nobody can profit, everyone shares for the sake of sharing (or for ratio on a tracker, which is fine)
    - Anonymous
      
      as has been said you didn’t have to pay MU
      it worked fine as free user, good speed, hardly any wait time, it was the best free cyberlocker
      
      of course, you had the option to pay for great speed and no wait time, but it was just an option.
      
      MU provided a great service and were rewarded with profit as it should be in a capitalist economy, but they didn’t rip anybody off while making that money.
  - RIAA HATER
    
    Kim never sued anyone for downloading content from other sites like Rapidshare or Filesonic that was hosted on Megaupload. He never threatened anyone (never even used a cherry bomb when the elite forces with 2 helicopters attacked). The Major labels extort and throw thousands of people into courtrooms if they don’t get content from “Official Sources.” How can he be worse than the major labels?
  - harry krishna
    
    i think that’s the approach the prosecution will take. he’s taking money from something that should be free.
  - Ender Wiggin
    
    funny, i don’t remember it costing me a dime to download from mega. Successful business models are no reason to get pissy, he was still on the right side.
  - Guest
    
    The arrest of Tim Dotcom and associates and the seizure of its properties is illegal both in the US and in NZ.
  - Stellablu777
    
    most of the fortune cam from advertising and people could use the site for absolutely free…in fact the vast majority of people did. Not like NUniversity which wanted “donations” to even let you on the site. Just because now it came out that this was quite a successful business model and that you can indeed get rich from advertising if you are big enough (hello facebook!) doesn’t mean that he charged for downloading.
  - Random Nigger
    
    He made a fortune by creating the ability for millions to share their files (By creating the cyberlocker Megaupload). He did not make a fortune from sharing.
http://twitter.com/dimon222 Romanenko Dmitry

wow
PlatinumC

Yeah, the only way to show those CopyWrong people is to stand firm and fight, you back away even for an inch, and they take a mile, so stand tall and show them not just for yourself, but for everyone who prefers open internet and free speech, and justice :).
- http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee
  
  Indeed lol but it’s more like give them an inch and they’ll take the whole internet. :( I really hope he wins then after takes them to the fucking cleaners. This is going to be a long one though. I’m sure by the time he is back in action my 20′s will be over for sure >.< and probably most of my 30's.
- O’lay Pirate
  
  if he wins they’re going to have to pay a shit load of damaging fees for the downtime of his service ^__^
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Micah-Madru/100001151887665 Micah Madru
    
    I hope some political officials server time for this outrage of the due process system that we have in place.
  - PlatinumC
    
    And if the data is deleted, then reimburse all the “legal” backups too to all the people. This is gonna be so much fun if he wins.
Anonymous

Yes, filehosts will return its just a matter of months.
- Dudepooer
  
  wat?
http://twitter.com/FreePSDFinder FreePSDFinder

KIM WE ARE WITH YOU!!!
GOOD LUCK :)
Lulu

As much as I want him to, I really doubt he’ll win.
- fpmitap
  
  I think he’s screwed if he ever gets to the U.S. Just like with The Pirate Bay, facts will have little to do with it, it’ll just be blah… blah… blah… guilty.
  - O’lay Pirate
    
    Sad but true.
    
    Then again Megaupload the TPB are very different.
    
    TPB promotes it’s usage for pirated content but Megaupload doesn’t promote it, even with it’s Top 100 list it had no pirated content… they tried to make it seem legal, so it will help them in their defense and also it has a lot of legal uploads and backups which will be lost if they site goes down forever.
    - Stellablu777
      
      I hope..though at the moment the prosecution is trying to spin that one into an argument about how criminal they were…
    - Rohe
      
      I think they don’t need to go the copyright-theft-route. There are some hard monetary arguments they supposedly have built around “the conspiracy”, which is usually a legal term for people “embezzling” or “tricking people for” money.
      
      We need to see more facts. Currently everything is speculation. If they can construct it around money matters, the copyright industry would cheer.
    - L T R
      
      Why do you think the FBI is charging him with money laundering? Because they know they can’t prove he is guilty of piracy in any way. But with the fucked up US laws, anybody can be proven to be guilty of laundering money.
      Just google it if you don’t believe me…
  - Harry
    
    It will be just like General Burkhalter from Hogans Heroes: “You will have a fair trial – afterwards you will be shot!”
Anonymous

Good Luck Kim !!!
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Good Luck, do win!!
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http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

The seizure of Megaupload was YET ANOTHER USA Crime Against Humanity as these self-centered, egotistical paid-for political puppets reduce Human Culture to a mere cash and profit equation whilst we try to innovate, create and share our knowledge to help people improve their lives and our society Worldwide.

Kim Dotcom AND Megaupload AND all their users have the greatest respect from ALL the free-thinking World’s people for helping us to share our culture and knowledge free from the out-dated 19th Century principles of CopyWrong and the more ‘modern’ stultifying idea of Imaginary Property.

Sharing IS Caring – and we want Megaupload back online NOW.
- Crappypants
  
  ‘crime against humanity’? Ha ha…you kids are so funny.
  - RIAA HATER
    
    Weclome to the 21st Century, Denying the people access for the interest of coporations is a 21st Century human rights violation.
  - Anonymous
    
    Actually yes. The same way it is actually a crime against humanity if even one black man is kicked in the nuts for the sole crime of being of a different color than many of the rest of his peers.
    
    In this case you have a person being made responsible for the actions taken exclusively taken by third parties over which he has no control. And after, mind you, he has a takedown mechanism in place which allows rightsholders to ask megaupload to take down content posted without consent.
    
    In essence, the man selling screwdrivers is being made to pay for the crimes committed by the people using those screwdrivers.
    - V3ndril
      
      MU and youtube have almost the same policies on copyright removal. Google however just removes content first and requires the uploader to prove that it was in fact NOT infringing. I just hope he can prove that policies were being followed.
      
      I don’t see the FBI storming google.
    - Neutron
      
      If you have a tool that creates an new download link to a file that is already there, then you didn’t remove anything. You removed the link but not the file. If everybody would have reupped everything every time MU would have been far less successful. If it takes me 1h to create a new legal document but you need only 1 second to create a new link, then the system is rigged.
    - Anonymous
      
      they removed the “file” that the DMCA complaint was about.
      there happen to be other files that are virtually the same as the one, but they didn’t get a complaint for that
      
      they followed the law to the letter, the MAFIAA just thought that wasn’t enough since they are of course better than the law.
  - http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes
    
    Time to clean up your own shit Crappypants, it’s starting to run down your legs and we don’t like the smell.
    
    In case you hadn’t noticed, what’s happening here is your beloved MAFIAA.org is no longer operating in a free market due to the monopolistic nature of the ‘industry’ and the anti-Human laws passed after you’ve paid legislators to pass said laws.
    
    The fact is that you’re now using the economic system to punish people rather than allow a fair exchange for goods and services. You’ve now corrupted Capitalism and using its mechanisms unfairly to gain more and more control over your so-called product. Just like the “pimp & whore” relationship, the MAFIAA’s relationship with their employees and their customers is just as skewed and unlawful to be a Crime Against Humanity – and your paid-for political puppets in Congress have also been corrupted to support you and your ilk.
    
    But the times are a-changin’ my friend, and you’ll be finding life as a pimp a little less easier in future – for we’re now on to your evil scam and we wont tolerate this outrage an further.
    
    So go clean up your own smelly shit before we have to do it for you.
- L T R
  
  I’m so sick of hearing “sharing is caring”.
  
  Look, I’m very anti-copyright, I don’t know if copyright should be abolished entirely but if it were I don’t think I would mind. But this idea that you are somehow caring by sharing the music of others is bullshit.
  Share. Your. Own. Music.
  
  It’s easy to grab another kid’s toy in the sandbox, then give it to a second kid and claim “I’m sharing so I’m caring”. Unfortunately it only applies when you’re sharing your own toys.
  
  Just stop the hypocrisy, you’re hurting the cause against copyrighted.
  - Anonymous
    
    but I do share my own music, just like I did in the 80s and 90s
    
    also, “grabbing” the toy is stealing, since the kid doesn’t have it anymore
    if you copy the toy and give it to another kid everybody is happy.
Crappypants

He’ll ‘win’ a free trip to the smackhouse buffet.
Kim Jung-Un

I’m with you too. Fuck america!
- Yu Tu Fat
  
  It’s pronounced Amelica you plick!
  - Anonymous
    
    *plonounced
- Sam
  
  you have no idea how stupid you sound! get a idea dickhead,
  - LUL
    
    HEY SAM, Y U NO SMART?
Gu357u53r

I think it was best said on an article previously on here. This is a battle between the MPAA/RIAA & the ISP/Telcos in terms of giving royalties. If taken all the way.
Anonymous

the action taken against Mega was simply organised by the entertainment industries and authorised by their lackeys in the US government. they then brought pressure on the NZ government to cooperate in the ‘totally OTT raid’. in my opinion, this is not solely a political issue though. it is a further attempt by those industries to try to force the ‘uncontrollable internet’ into their control because they refuse to accept that things have changed. the way people communicate, they way people want to obtain content, the way people want to view and listen to content and importantly, the way people want to share content in this digital age is vastly different to how it was a couple of decades ago. while the entertainment industries put out ridiculous statements like wanting to ‘discuss’ things with the ‘other sides’, when in actual fact all they want to try to do is browbeat their views on to everyone else, that control wont come easily. having the dictatorial view against customers, similar to the attitude that Assad has against the Syrian people (we’ll hold a referendum but keep killing them at the same time!) is doing no good at all! i sincerely hope that Mega win this case and not only get their site and assets back, but get handsomely compensated too. i fear though that, as in TPB case, the outcome was decided well before the raid itself was even set in motion, let alone any court case!
Anon

“Megaupload is back now back under a new domain name,” Kim told torrentFreak “A top level domain that the US Government have no control over.”

:-P
- Anonymous
  
  LOL dream on. MU won’t return until case over.
  
  The US Government got Kim under the Anticounterfeiting Consumer Protection Act (ACPA) of 1996. This expanded racketeering laws to include criminal copyright infringement.
  
  Just one of then 15 ways Hollywood has corrupted the law during the past 30 years.
  - Stellablu777
    
    indeed…and that’t the real story behind the megaupload bust…
    
    But, as his lawyer points out, secondary criminal copyright infringement does not exist under US laws. Wonder if there will be a strange construct by which they will be charged with racketeering because of individual copyright infringement?
http://www.facebook.com/stoico.luigi Stoico Luigi

Good to hear … Finally some action reaction in a good way without. :o)

Keep up the Good work. The elites Fail more and more each day that passes by , take advantage of it . We people will Win This Epic battle that. One day you figure out what i mean with epic !
Je

Just make sure you dont fuckup. YOu know they are tapping everything now.
- Anonymous
  
  I am just wondering how he can afford a top class lawyer now they have seized totally all his money?
  
  I doubt the US knows the meaning of Justice.
  - blahblah
    
    i’m willing to bet there is a lawyer willing to work “pro bono” for kim dotcom for future gain.
    - Anonymous
      
      it is just another incentive to win
      once he has won and the assets are unfrozen he gets paid
Anonymous

http://lnk.co/IHOTL
5445

I hope he wins, good luck Kim!
Goest

no question ‘we”ll win in the end. such as those who fought prohibition in the 30′s. Hope his fate won’t be that of al capone though.
Harry

It will be just a show-process, because they can’t sue him for the main issue they’re after: hosting files!

So they have to make something up. Like those indictments based on the fact Megaupload’s server technology used data-deduplication, so in case an infringing link to a file was reported other copies of the copyrighted file (which could be perfectly legal private copies or backups) in other accounts weren’t removed too. Funny thing: Apple uses the same technology in iCloud and I am sure they also won’t remove all copies of a song from all accounts just because one user unlawfully published his access data.

But since people like the US Trade Representative – Executive Office of the President of the United States – had them on their anti-pirate-list he will to go to jail. The people with the power and the money want to make an example of it and they will get it.
- Anonymous
  
  Na when a file was uploaded to mu they would check if it already existed on the server first, then give you the link.
  
  If you ever used the megaupload manager you would see it, you could start uploading a 20gb file and it would finish instantly. That wouldn’t be possible unless it was already on the server.
  - Harry
    
    Yeah, this technology is called data-deduplication, very common on big storage systems and as I already pointed out Apple also uses it on iCloud.
    
    So when do they shut down Apple?
    
    And even if they twist the DMCA that way to make the usage of data-deduplication illegal this won’t change a thing. Then cloud-services and cyberlockers will simply buy additional storage space (and safe 1000 copies of a 20 gb file 1000 times, so Hollywood doesn’t cry). “Problem” solved.
    
    And this is exactly the point: They just want to make an example of Megaupload to scare all the other cyberlockers, because they can’t shut them down on a legal base for hosting files.
    - Anonymous
      
      When megaupload got dmca’d only the link disappeared, even if that same file was linked 100 different times if only 1 of the links was dmca’d then the other 99 links would still be active. That is the argument they are making, which i think is valid even though it was really convenient to uploaders and would save ALOT of bandwidth.
      
      Now i don’t know about apple or what they do, but sites like rapidshare and filesonic would delete the actual file instead of just the link.
    - Harry
      
      “When megaupload got dmca’d only the link disappeared, even if that same file was linked 100 different times if only 1 of the links was dmca’d then the other 99 links would still be active.”
      
      Yes, because the DMCA just says you have to delete the file that was reported and not all other copies of the file in all other accounts. And just because the other links are still active this doesn’t mean they have been illegally published too!
      
      “Now i don’t know about apple or what they do”
      
      According to your logic they had to remove the actual physical file, not just the virtual copy, removing the song from every account of every iCloud-user…
      
      “but sites like rapidshare and filesonic would delete the actual file instead of just the link.”
      
      Not sure about that. RapidShare had a case in Germany where the court said it is legal to store copyrighted works on cyberlockers for private purposes. So they can’t remove a file from all accounts just because it’s copyrighted.
    - Neutron
      
      The point is and was, that the accounts accompanied to this files, especially the kickback and payment accounts were not terminated. You could recreate links when ever you wanted on YOUR account. We will see if they even **recreated** a copy from the other accounts to your account. If this happend, they are toast.
      
      The didn’t need to delete the other files. They should have simply forbid to add this specific file to the account who got flagged, as everybody else do. That would have killed their kickback program, and they didn’t do it.
    - Harry
      
      “The didn’t need to delete the other files. They should have simply forbid to add this specific file to the account who got flagged, as everybody else do. That would have killed their kickback program, and they didn’t do it.”
      
      The DMCA doesn’t demand anything like that, so I don’t see why they should be “toast”. If other cyberlockers implement such a reupload-block it is on their own account, not because the law would require it.
      
      Besides: Those reupload-blocks are completely useless since at least here in Germany most uploaders spread their stuff in password-encrypted .rar-archives (pride, pride), therefore the cyberlockers can’t block the reupload of specific content anyway…
      
      All they can do at the moment is to hope that the management of the cyberlocker makes somekind of error and then drag them to court with all force. Like they did with Megaupload.
    - Neutron
      
      “The DMCA doesn’t demand anything like that, so I don’t see why they should be “toast”. If other cyberlockers implement such a reupload-block it is on their own account, not because the law would require it.”
      
      We are not talking about the requirements of any strange law. We are talking about why they allowed the people to re upload and continue to pay them even they continually uploaded the same infringing material again and again – probably without any reupload, just a re-copy of a file already there.
      
      That has nothing to do with the darn DCMA. It has to do about your knowledge and what you are doing against it, to fall under any sort of Safe Heaven provision. If you know that the file he reuploads is re-infringing and they can prove that you didn’t at least “blocked” the accounts of these people, how do you “logically justify” that? There is none. Its not the job of a filehoster to nullify uploads in the 1000s because their user behave badly THEY have control of.
      
      If you don’t block, don’t erase, don’t filter, you are toast. And thats the reason RS is now considered dead for the scene. There is a fine line between “not knowing” and “not acting.”
    - Harry
      
      “If you don’t block, don’t erase, don’t filter, you are toast.”
      
      It doesn’t matter what you or the MPAA think that should be done, what matters is what’s written in the law and there is no law that says anything about blocking or filtering! In the European Union hosting providers are even forbidden to filter.
      
      http://torrentfreak.com/eu-court-bans-anti-piracy-filters-on-hosting-services-120216/
    - Neutron
      
      @Harry If you allow people to reupload stuff that has at least been 2x called “infringing” and you keep the people fake uploading it, its classic “knowing but not acting”. You have incentive to keep the window between “access to file” until “notice to delete” as wide as possible, because that is the part where you make money with pay accounts.
      
      That’s classic “fencing” – trying to sell hot stolen goods where you don’t know its stolen ot or not until you get a fax from the police. The window you don’t know its the only window you can legally say “I didn’t know”.
Djxedxd

Hes gonna need to get Johnny Cochran …. Oh wait never mind well if hes got a good lawyer and they play it right they got a good chance of nailing them for excessive force but as to prove they didn’t know bout the file sharing? Eh not so much.
This will be interesting!
Loxinnnn

People wake up. he will not win .all is already paid and lost from the start. when people will wake up and stop taking it in the ass. there is no freedom no human right .they want u to belive that u have them.
- It’s a fit-up
  
  You are the one bending over and taking it up the ass without even a fight.
  Not everyone is as resigned to being the victim as you obviously are.
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Reader

I hope he can atleast try to get the case thrown out by trying to get them to admit they were raided under false pretences (possession of bombs or bomb making equipment ?? )
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Stupid

enigmax, can you post an audio recording of this? This interview sounds so bogus to me. Just like the supposed interview with aXXo that’s on here. I like torrentfreak, but I don’t bullshit. So if you can, post the audio recording of this. B/C i’m sure i’m not the only one that thinks this.
- Truth
  
  The first rule if arrested is say nothing.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhbJd2USUDI
  
  Unsubstantiated statements are far safer for Kim Dotcom at this moment in time.
  - Truth
    
    Sorry wrong video – This one is complete and has the police officer stand up (at 27:27) and explains why you should never talk to him, a professional. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
http://profile.yahoo.com/RAIXMP3GGC7ALBVJVBNLTNF3EY Snuffaluffapuss

I’m sure his lawyers are all doing the Happy Dance.
Truth

I wondering if the MAFFIA fed some fantasy about WMD’s to the US government, who in turn relayed this misinformation via Chinese whispers to the the New Zealand government, who passed the information on via illegible handwriting on the back of an old recycled third hand envelope to their terrorist squad, sorry I meant crack force anti-terrorist squad.

(A bit like the WMD’s saga of Open BSD (Workstations of Mass Development) for OpeBSD 3.4 – http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#34 ).
Anonymouse

KimDotCom You have the support of millions! Such a inspiration!
- Zac Effron
  
  No, all his millions are gone. LOL
  - Stellablu777
    
    His millions are frozen but I suspect he still has the support of millions..and perhaps weill discover that money isn’t everything. People power!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001432014105 Mike Harrison

The second any owner of a site takes money from piracy, they cease to be a pirate and become a business. No site should be making money off of pirated material, yet they do and then cry when they get taken down. Having ads on the site, having a pay system in place, all = PROFIT on illegal activities.

I would support him if he was doing things and not making a cent, but he was making money off of piracy, which is not sharing. Its called profiting on illegal goods, which is illegal everywhere.
- Stellablu777
  
  the site was good and fast, and it cost a huge amount of money to establish and run. it was a business model, not an ideological thing. yet it made filesharing easier and faster for everyone. What’s wrong with that? BTW, the owners of pirate bay also made huge amounts of money..
  - Anonymous
    
    they did not make _huge_ amounts.
    also, ads are different from subscriptions or donations, since they don’t cost the user anything.
    - Harry
      
      “also, ads are different from subscriptions or donations, since they don’t cost the user anything.”
      
      Do you really think advertising-companies work for free and companies are paying websites for ads because they have money to waste?
      
      YOU are paying every dollar that is spend on advertising when you buy products from companies that spend money on advertising. You always pay! There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch!
    - Stellablu777
      
      You don’t seem to know that megaupload made most of its money from ads? Cause they did…of course. Since they were not a subscription-only service and most of its users were unregistered and used the site for free. Ads are what makes a huge amount of money if you have a large site. You did not have to pay to access stuff on MU. You only had to wait a tiny bit longer (but they were still very fast..).
    - Stellablu777
      
      Oh, and btw that was also the business model that underpinned Megabox – how do you think the 90% share for the artist could have been financed, what with costs for servers and upkeep etc? Ads were the real money-spinners on the site – it’s all about economies of scale..
    - Anonymous
      
      the ad only costs me some bandwidth.
      
      sure, the ad-price will be somehow in the product they are advertising, but I usually buy from the cheapest store anyway, so it doesn’t really matter how they came to that price.
- Anonymous
  
  So you’re okay with someone committing a crime as long as they aren’t making money off it?
  
  That’s laughable.
- Harry
  
  So does ThePirateBay, so does your Internet-Service-Provider, so does your hard-drive manufacturer, so does even the operator of the power plant that sells you the electricity your PC wastes when you are downloading stuff from the net.
  
  Pirates ALWAYS paid for the hardware and infrastructure they used for sharing.
  
  Are you also bitching about Panasonic because you have to pay for the DVDs you use to burn movies and share them with friends?
  
  BTW: ThePirateBay is also running a cyberlocker these days – and guess what, they actually charge you to for using their servers: http://bayfiles.com
  - Zac Effron
    
    Your reasoning is seriously flawed. Does an ISP or Seagate have an affiliate program that rewards people to share stolen merchandise?
    
    Open your eyes, Mega is no different than the Mafia.
    - Stellablu777
      
      surely MAFIAA :). Other cyberlockers have affiiate programmes.And they discontinued theirs last year. But even so, since when did that reward the sharing of stolen merchandise? As opposed to freeware?
    - Anonymous
      
      affiliate programs were not just for pirated content, it was a way for someone to be paid for their own content.
      
      of course, it was abused by some, but that doesn’t mean the program itself was bad.
    - Harry
      
      He was not complaining about the rewards program. This might be wrong indeed.
      
      He was complaining about the fact that cyberlockers charge money for the usage of their infrastructure. There are also cyberlockers without a rewards program, like RapidShare.
- djnforce9
  
  Only… Megaupload wasn’t a “piracy” site. It didn’t index a bunch of copyright material for you to download at will. it was a Cyberlocker that could be used by anyone and even allowed copyright holders to take down offending material. The problem here is that Kim is being expected to take full responsibility for how his “USERS” use the service which is about as unfair as criminalizing an ISP because their subscribers are pirating too much.
  
  Anyway, I doubt piracy was even the real reason the MAFIAA had them shut down. The REAL threat was the new service Megaupload was going to introduce that gave an enormous return rate (i.e. 90%) for musical artists. Much better than those pathetic excuses for a music label which greedily sap most of the artists’ hard earned profits. Had Megaupload succeeded in launching the new venue, it would have destroyed the old model other labels have used for years to make obscene profits at others’ expense.
  - KIMTIMWINNING
    
    Actually it wasn’t the RIAA that was worried about MU as much as the MPAA, so megabox was never the reason. Megabox didn’t exist when investigations were initiated. So unless MPAA and the US Govt can look into the future this argument is moot.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001432014105 Mike Harrison
    
    And they had moles inside the higher up levels of Megaupload where they had email access showing that he knew there was illegal content on his servers and he laughed about how he was making it appear he was honoring things when he really wasn’t.
    
    I can’t wait till he gets sent to prison it will be interesting to see how his ass likes being uploaded to. Atleast what is uploaded to his ass will legally belong to his cellmate though
    - Guest
      
      Not necessarily. Ever heard of gene patents?
    - Stellablu777
      
      hahaha…youtube execs wrote very similar emails…knowledge of infringing content is not in itself the issue. But you are just a troll after all…
    - Anonymous
      
      exactly, youtube had similar emails and they still won their case
      
      IF (very big IF) he actually gets a fair trial he will win this, but I am sure the bought judge is already lined up.
    - KIMTIMWINNING
      
      @ Mike: You must be an admit. A search warrant was presented in June 2010 to Carparthia and Cogent hosting. After that it is history since they built their case around this – with their hands deep in the email server. You’re an outright idiot. Thanks
- Anonymous
  
  All of which you describe is equally applicable to the same sort of site which only hosts “legitimate” files. Which is what Megaupload set out to do.
  
  However, it’s a fact that you literally cannot stop users from putting up whatever they wish on any site where the users determine the content. What you are arguing for is something which will never happen. If users can generate content, much of that content will fall under the “Imaginary Property” header and will be infringing on copywrong law.
  
  Having a reasonable takedown system in place is the most you can ask for, as the alternative will in practice be a blanket ban on most cloud services. Megaupload did have such a system in place.
  
  What you are saying is, in essence, that since roads are used by criminals, anyone who actually profits from the road being used at all profits from illegal activity and should have his business demolished?
  
  And I’m curious as to your thoughts regarding the post office as they are in most countries in practice the largest distributor of drugs and apparently profit from this.
  - Neutron
    
    The difference between the MU delete process, the Youtube delete process and the RS delete process is the difference between galaxies. MU never ever deleted accounts, especially those with kickback programs – even after hundreds of delete requests. They simply let them fake-reupload (their tool took a fingerprint and they probably simply copied one of the files back from the cloud). So they knew that the user with the kickback program makes money by uploading stuff the had to delete anyway.
    
    They knew it and they tried to create a huge gray area where they can operate. Youtube kills your account and totally stops reuploads. RS had so much problems with delete requests that they dropped the speed and police their uploaders, which is a huge problem by itself.
    
    Self created gray areas aren’t the solution to the problem. It just get your house raided.
    - Anonymous
      
      the difference is that youtube is “in dubio pro mafiaa”, MU was “in dubio pro reo”
      in one case the MAFIAA is always right, doesn’t matter if they actually own the copyright or if it is just birds singing ( http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/02/26/2141246/youtube-identifies-birdsong-as-copyrighted-music ), megaupload didn’t roll over so easily but instead followed the law.
- Kr0nZ
  
  so its not OK for them to take money, buts its OK for you to take money from them? Bandwidth costs money, servers space costs money, replacement drives COST MONEY…
  
  maybe your still living at home with your rents or something and have no idea what a dollar is worth, but once you actually start living you will realize EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY
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Good luck.. But I don’t think Kim could win
- Anonymous
  
  Time will tell all.
  
  His greatest mistake was to use UMG artists. The time between the Mega Video release and that raid was just long enough to plan a international raid.
  
  MegaUpload was not much different to other cyberlockers.
beta54

Do we live in the Free World, or is only free if you agree to be a slave.? Soon, the government will make us pay for the air we breathe and the sunlight we absoarb. It is certain the common man has no rights, the governments are the puppets of the Gold keepers and banks, and Obama has built a police state that rivals anything Hitler or Stalin had.
- Anonymous
  
  to be fair, Bush built the police state, Obama just expanded it
- http://Not.Telling/ Kr0nZ
  
  no one is Free in this world, Free / Freedom is just a word used by our governments to keep the sheep obedient
Zac Effron

I feel bad for New Zealand taxpayers. Their gov wasted 100′s of thousands on apprehending Kim, only to let him go.

One judge approves an arrest warrant, but yet another judge just frees him and rules against an order. The legal system is really screwed up.
- MadAsASnake
  
  No – they only wasted 100′s of thousands. a single bobby could have arrested him in an hour. He’s not a danger to society and unlikely to flee – so what is the problem with bail? An arrest warrant is not even remotely a conviction.
emuleuser123

emule is the future not bittorrent, Mark my words.
- Cammerone
  
  At least it is completely P2P-based since the introduction of the KAD protocol, not relying on any sites.
  
  But for anonymity you still need a VPN-Provider – which still could be shut down.
- Pro Bittorrent
  
  Isn’t eMule full of adware and viri?
  - Anonymous
    
    no, eMule is open source
    there might be some version with virus out there, but if you stick to “official” channels you’ll be safe.
    
    of course if you blindly open any file you download you deserve the virus you get ;)
KIM TIM WINNING

Nice report TF – wished more comments could have been made from Kim Tim Jim.

However, how is he going to fight email communications of them knowingly limiting universal to only 5000 DMCA takedowns a day, and saying they only provide a platform for pirates (knowingly abetting copyright infringement)? They going to raise their hands and say “wasnt me?”
ryujinmaru

Great news … I still have my Megaupload life time account !!

very enjoyed the service !!
EasyReading

Some easy reading for Kim while he’s on “vacation” …

On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered “global intelligence” company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011.

They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency.

The emails show Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.

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Anonymous

Good luck.
Gae

Whilst I can not see it happening, it really would be so awesome if he gets to go free and restart MU.
I would personally phone up the MPAA headquarters and just laugh down the phone non-stop for 20 minutes.
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They used to burn witches in the Middle Ages, and they use to burn file sharers in our oh-so-enlightened ages. With his high profile, expect Kim Dotcom to be extradited to the CTSA, Copyright Taliban States of America (formerly known and the USA), publicly flogged, and thrown to the prison wolves. Every other outcome would come as a huge surprise in this day and age.
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  No, every other outcome would not come as a huge surprise, to be blunt. The United States has a little thing called a DMCA.
  
  As to them removing only one link to a file, which is the thing that people keep on harping on them for? The fact is that just because one link is ‘illegal’ doesn’t mean all of them are.
  
  Different people/organizations have different rights to content, so one link might be illegitimate while another one isn’t.
  - Guest
    
    The fact is that just because one link is ‘illegal’
    
    There you go!
    
    Now the entertainment industry rewrote the law!
    
    They can be no such thing as an “Illegal link” period because this will infringe with the freedom of speech.
    
    To solve this entertainment industry problem we shall hang one entertainment executive and one of their lawyers each day until they all disband.
Rekrul

A couple points for all the people saying that since he made money from file sharing, he deserves to go to jail…

First of all, Megaupload was one of the best cyberlockers for free users. It had the fastest speed, little/no wait time before downloads started, no wait time between downloads, and no captcha. I downloaded at least 3GB from it on more than one occasion and the site never complained.

Second, nobody was forcing anyone to pay. It’s not as if MU had ultra-rare files that you couldn’t get anywhere else and which you had to pay to access. I’ve seen sites like that. If people wanted to pay for MU accounts, why is that wrong?

Lastly, if you do a lot of file sharing, you probably pay your ISP for a fast download speed. Aren’t they profiting from piracy? Do you want to see them thrown in jail as well?
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  Hit the nail on the head with all three points there.
- Neutron
  
  The postal service doesn’t know what you send in a letter. The provider doesn’t know, because he is just like the postal service. As we see with ISPs, they aren’t even allowed to contain spam, because it *could* be a legitimate “letter” to you.
  
  The file locker also doesn’t need to know. But its an endpoint. Something ends or begins there. If I constantly send you letters with funky powder, or some house constantly gets letters with funky powder, someone will come knocking.
  
  Its not the postal services problem, its not the providers problem, its even not the filelocker problem. He has lots of “houses”. But if something funky happens, he has to react to the problem. If he don’t then his endpoint loses the ability to be a neutral service.
  - Anonymous
    
    MU did delete infringing links as required by law
    
    they can’t pre-filter everything, that is just too much work and costs too much.
    but the MAFIAA expects that and doesn’t want to pay for that effort.
    - Harry
      
      “they can’t pre-filter everything, that is just too much work and costs too much.
      but the MAFIAA expects that and doesn’t want to pay for that effort.”
      
      Even if they would pay for it, at least here in the EU pre-filtering is forbidden, as the European High Court just ruled recently (and since it’s the High Court the ruling is final):
      
      http://torrentfreak.com/eu-court-bans-anti-piracy-filters-on-hosting-services-120216/
    - Neutron
      
      When you know that the re-upload will take place and you have a third or a fourth take-down notice waiting for you – why are you allowing the traffic? you know you can’t keep the files, because they will get erased. The only answer to that is simply: you didn’t erase timely (as many claim they simply started to ignore erase requests for certain files after a while) and offer a way to allow a quicker re-upload by hash-matching, so it will take longer to write takedown notices vs. creating a new working link.
      
      Since its an incentive for you (because of more pay accounts) too keep those high sought files online, you can easily construct a “they know and they profited directly” from it case.
      
      Lets see how Kim explains the ignorance of many take down requests by “we were bored to kill it 100s of times, we simply stopped”
    - Anonymous
      
      as has been said before the files themselves are not illegal
      there is simply no way to guarantee if the uploader has the proper copyright to an upload or not, that’s why they simply deleted the link that the DMCA complaint was about.
      
      it was just to save them bandwidth which is expensive
    - Neutron
      
      You are right: they surely expect some “MAFIAAA guy” to upload the top 1000 DVDs for free on a shady hoster in Asia. Thats so common, thats so normal, everybody does it all the time. They “had” to expect that this user even wants to make money by a kickback paid to an Argentian PayPal account.
      
      LOL. +1 for the straight face.
Heinous Criminal ie Filesharer

F.B.I.

For Business Interests

U.S.A.

Under Satan’s Aegis (the government, not the people)
- Bloaxor
  
  Man, thanks for clarifying that!
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http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

I’m personally pretty sure that he will win his anti-extradition. This is not a ‘high crime’ and there is some real problems with the charges that have been levied against this man.
Wyrm

“We feel that the action taken against us was political.”

Of course it is, much as all the last years worth of law-making and lobbying.

And that’s why he’s not “obviously” going to win. He doesn’t have a whole government backing him up. He didn’t spend billions in lobbying. He didn’t place his lobbyists in key positions in the executive, legislative and judiciary powers.

He’s just an individual who was selected as a scapegoat for the whole piracy “business”. And he might not be “morally guilty”, but I highly doubt he’s all clear from the maze of copyright laws that make up the framework (as in “work from framing people”). Not to mention that he just might be “morally guilty” as well, depending on whether he actually used his own tool wrongly. (Such as in trying to “download YouTube”…)

Whatever he is, he is not facing an easy fight. The result is unpredictable at this point.
Foxaholic

It is almost certain that only goes back MegaUpload similar to Napster!
lolwut

Hail to the Kim, baby!
Anonymous

If this runs through the courts, and they find in favour of Kim Dotcom, He’s going to be set for life. Not only will they have to give him back all his shit, but the counter-suit for damages is going to break the bank. LOL!

They’ve destroyed his businesses, took his assets, destroyed his reputation (roll with me here!) banged up his rented house pretty good, umm, what else. Oh, the armed anti-terror squad should be worth a few pennies for the mental/emotional anguish it caused everyone involved. Don’t you love it when you can’t tell the good guys from the bad guys?

Even if Kim Dotcom was committing a cyber-crime, I think it was just a little overkill in their take-down. If Kim is proven not guilty, I’m sure those involved will have some pretty hard questions thrown at them. Fingers crossed anyway.

Regardless of who did what, I think there should always be accountability, on both sides of the fence. Due process is essential. Justification. Accountability, otherwise, it could be your door, and your family taken down, terrorist style, tomorrow. And why the fuck not? They don’t have to answer to anybody!!! Think about it. Now regardless of whether Kim is guilty or not, there needs to be some sort of police for the police. You see what I’m saying??? Accountability!

The petitions thrown at the White House go unanswered. (Yes, we know we’re corrupt, but we’re not going to pull our pants down just because you want us to!)

It’s odd that the United States can arm citizens of other countries to stand up against their government, but when there are peaceful protests in the US, the peaceful protesters get pepper sprayed. Who’s going to arm them???? Why is it ok for the US to help ‘freedom fighters’ in another country, but don’t dare speak up at home!!

Hang on. there’s a banging at my door….. men with guns. I’ve said too much!!!
- Anonymous
  
  and for exactly those reasons he will not win
  
  which is sad.
  - Stellablu777
    
    so far all the money laundering charges are related to legit business activities – paypal payments and payments from advertisers. As soon as something is declared illegal, any money flowing through the business counts as money laundering….same for the racketeering and the wire fraund charges. All secondary to copyright infringement.
    - Anonymous
      
      and on the other hand wallstreet bankers robbing millions of people of their savings are getting billion dollar boni.
      
      justice!
  - MadAsASnake
    
    … which is a clear argument that Kim will not get a fair trial in the US. That is the plainest reason to deny extradition there is. The NZ govt should be looking very carefully at the FBI request as it was clearly exaggerated on a massive scale, and that can’t be accidental. NZ law enforcement expected a heavy defence from a criminal organisation. They found neither. Why should any of the other info provided by US agencies be any less exaggerated?
- Neutron
  
  If they only can prove the simplest financial trickery in the masses, he is toast. It is even not necessary to go any near copyrights or anything.
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    Actually, yes, it is. The fact is that unless they can prove connections with organized crime in some fashion? Any jury they impanel cannot find him guilty of jack!
    
    Money laundering is not as easy to prove as some people make it out to be, to be blunt.
- Yesi
  
  Power does what it wants.
cashhuge.com

great…
my neighbor’s mom earned $15976 the prior week. she is making money on the computer and got a $503200 house. All she did was get lucky and make use of the instructions explained on that link above
Guest

We must retaliate.

From now on Let’s hang one entertainment executive a day.
serper

I hope Kim Dotcom wins. The MIPAA and US agents have been too pompous with their blatantly over aggressive “take-down” of the “Legion of Doom” [pirates]. He’s entitled to his belongings and property, not to mention his business, et al.

All the haters, “he gets what he deserves” mantra can just watch and see him win this one. I am seriously not saying it’s okay for user’s of his service to pirate but this is not issue. He has all the disclaimers in place and it’s not relevant to use him as a scapegoat for motion picture industries crap. Kim is not guilty.

-serper
Krozar

Maybe it’s because I am old and more cynical. But when the US feds want to put the screws to you, they will. The odds are very much against Kim.com. They don’t go through all this trouble to not get someone. These aren’t locals we are dealing with. They’ve done it many times before. They’ve put people in prison for decades merely for spreading different ideas (such as Timothy Leary). If they have to make things up, then they will do it. They are the FBI, an agency that’s part of a government who locks people up indefinitely without trials at all.

I think the Mega founder will discover that justice is bullshit. Becoming rich, powerful, and stepping on toes without the right buddies in this world is a mortal sin.
Anonymous

I don’t know the specifics of the case, but I hope MegaUpload does win. I couldn’t patch a piece of open-source software because of the take down, so I know there were legal uses.

How is it that in 2012 we still don’t have an easy way to send files?
http://xkcd.com/949/
- Anonymous
  
  because the MAFIAA stifles competition
- MadAsASnake
  
  Because the MAFIAA beleives that copying files is evil and spends millions lobbying to prevent it
Arthurtwoshedsjackson

If all cyberlockers that operate just like Megaupload did were also shut down then sure, the FBI has a case – but to go into the lion’s den, pick out one to torture and leave the rest is – frankly speaking, completely and utterly pointless.

Nothing has changed – except for one site out of hundreds being closed down. This isn’t even a ‘dent’ in the piracy food chain – it’s nothing.

Rapidshare is the daddy of file lockers – it was the original one – it was the one others emulated – Yet it’s still there – untouched and operating in safe harbour (according to the RIAA) because they lobbied the White House last year.

This is all about politics and who has the power – this has nothing to do with justice or equality.

The RIAA is running scared and the lawyers they have employed are raking in a small fortune attempting to take down a giant with a spud gun.
- Krozar
  
  And not just lobbying, but making contributions and showing up to political fundraisers always helps. The main reason it helps, is if they get raided, then the media will play on the fact that they are contributors to X people and Y party. The FBI is surprisingly sensitive to political issues, that’s why they didn’t go after Nixon–requiring a whistle-blower leaker to send him to justice (or at least getting him to resign in disgrace.)
Goosmoo

Run, Kim, Run! (well that’s what I’d do)

I miss my megavideo account. It was better than TV.

All that money spent on taking down the mega sites and for what? Absolutely nothing. It seems there was no dent whatsoever in file sharing.
- Krozar
  
  It’s the new “Colombian” model. While they can’t stop file sharing, they’re going to do like what Colombia (and the CIA) did with the Medellin (Escobar) and Cali cartels, fragment file sharing into tiny little pieces. Individually they’ll have less power. That’s why TPB is such a big target, because when they get that big they get arrogant, they offer a variety of services (FileBay, iPredator, etc). But not only that, they become a political force.
  
  By breaking up file sharing sites into small private sites (overall a bad thing for BT), they can make things harder for the casual user and turn BT into a niche.
  - Krozar
    
    And in the case of cyberlockers. We saw what happened there. They got in line.
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
    
    It’s an old routine, actually. Works, though.
    No one thinks busting dealers will stop users, just make the whole process harder and more of a PITA. File sharing will never die, but it may have seen it’s heyday…o we may still be seeing it today…what with RUTRACKER and TPB etc.
- Desu75
  
  BTW agree with you that Megavideo was great. Movie2k.to has been a decent alternative but it still doesn’t compare really.
Gwpuffnstuff937

Hey…wasn’t he in that movie…Paul Blart Mall Cop….
- http://twitter.com/rottedcockmeat rottedcockmeat
  
  no i think it was Fahrenheit 911 and Bowling for Columbine…
  
  n e ways, i hope he wins
Forthelulz

you got to love how you freaks on here calling his online storage a “legal business” I had a good LULZ no go fuck your mothers!
- Krozar
  
  You forgot to use the troll/cool face as an avatar you tard.
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
    
    That’s not ‘trolling’. That’s someone bluntly speaking their mind in a forum full of people who disagree. Then insulting them. Totally different thing.
- Anonymous
  
  it was a legal business
  and it still is a legal business until proven otherwise.
  
  what is illegal is the shutdown of the business by the MAFIAA
- Anonymous
  
  Innocent until proven guilty.
  
  US destroyed while still innocent.
  
  Following DMCA law shows that the company aimed for lawful work.
  
  Spot the one problem in those three lines.
Moop

He’s going to be raped in an American prison!
- Krozar
  
  He’s a pretty big boy. If I were him I would be lifting weights every day though because there’s a real possibility he may have to prove himself on the inside.
  - techanon
    
    The thing is… he can’t.
    He has diabetes, too much variation on the glucose of his blood an he risks death.
    - Desu75
      
      Ina US prison you risk even more death by not being able to fight.
- KIMTIMWINNING
  
  they won’t send him to a maximum security prison…he’s not a flight risk from jumping a fence.
  
  look at bernie madoff…you think he’s getting raped in prison?
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
    
    You think he isn’t having a ‘hard time’?
    
    People arrested for white collar crimes are not all old men, you know.
foff

A few servers in the US does not give the US complete jurisdiction over a foreign enterprise. This case is over reaching in the extreme and will never have a chance. If this case flies then the US should have jurisdiction over any drug operation in the world if they can establish where the drug came from. Why isn’t the fbi busy asking every country in the world that produces drugs to round up all the drug dealers and send them here.

It doesn’t matter what Kim dot com may have thought about the data on servers you can’t convict a person based on what you think he might know. No was forced or coerced to upload stuff, in fact no one was outright handed cash and megaupload did not upload and advertise stuff on its servers. This case is nothing but bull bull bull shit. Obama ordered it done to maintain support of the entertainment industry it was purely 100% fucking political. Fuck you N obama and your admin. This November you are over and you can go out to fucking pasture and rot.
- Anonymous
  
  the problem is the republicans are far far worse than obama
  
  thanks to the 2 party system you have no real choice in your democracy anymore.
  - Yasnuoonm
    
    They’re all as bad as each other. Why? Because they’re just a front for the underlying system.
    - Fantastic
      
      Yea the bureaucratic classes very existence inhibits a two party system from functioning in the intended way.
Bob

@#$ the USA… GO KIM!!!!!
Chris Nenesito

Go Kim and kick some ass! Have seen what you have done in the 90s 00s.. fu@#$ing greedy bastards just want your fortune and ruin the freedom of the internet!!!! KICK SOME ASS, DUDE!!!!
- http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
  
  Yeeeeh! KICK ASS, DOOD! Go get those greedy bastards, Kim! Right after you dry off from your imported spring water pool with a 500 dollar towel.
Anonymous

I think fat boy should join the gym and lose some weight!
Gone-Anon.tk
Genocyber

Good luck to you Kin!

Lets hope all those pretenses dictators learn once for all that they cant command us anymore!
Guest

All of you in support of Kim Schmuck are idiots. He’s a con-artist and you all are buying into it. I suggest you go read his bio.
- Anonymous
  
  he might not be the nicest person, but still noone deserves to be treated like that.
  
  and yes, he had some trouble with the law in the 90s, but in the last decade he was a model citizen as far as I’m aware.
- Goosmoo
  
  If we’re taking votes on schmucks, I vote for you. :)
Guest

I agree with Kim on the addiction thingy where people go nuts if they have their net or phones taken away for 5 minutes.
I think its sad the addiction to the internet and technology like cellphones and computers today.
No wonder people in are gettin fat and you hardly ever see people hangin out or playing outside anymore. Kids dont even know what it is to go outside and play anymore like I did when I was a child.
We lived just fine without all that stuff and life was great!!
- Desu75
  
  I was in a psychiatric hospital for a while 2 months ago and that was the hardest part. No flippin Internet. I live on the Internet. It is my home. RL is alien to me. It was a good experience too though. Met some people and socialized far beyond what I normally do. But it was tough and at the time I was withdrawing from Ativan (a benzo) and since I have schizophrenia it was sending me into psychosis. But withdrawing from the Internet was psychologically tougher lol. Met some good people though, who I still talk with and meet up with.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
  
  Google up some studies. Internet addiction has similar effects on your brain as cocaine and alcohol addictions. Also, 4+ hours a day sheds years off your life.
  
  Cheers!
Mark

Again, shouldn’t the US politicians go to jail? Shouldn’t corporate America be subjugated to arrest. Why won’t US citizens and law enforcement fight back?

Where is Christ in a world that has turned upside down; where evil men control it all? Where is goodness and caring for each other?
- Red
  
  Stick to the blue pill, fool, you’re not cut out for the truth.
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/3DINK3SS3ATBCIL4GZMXJ3F5PI Engage
    
    /fuckyeah/
http://www.beautynstyle.net/angelina-jolies-right-leg-pose-the-best-tweet-of-the-oscar-2012-night/ Angelina Jolie

wow…
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Anonymous

Restricting knowledge for the benefit of a few is like brain damage to civilization. The harm it does far exceeds the benefits. Knowledge should no more be enslaved to the control of a single owner than people. When slaves were set free, the former owners lost money. Well, too bad. Knowledge should also be set free. The creators still have the right to profit from their creations. But the mere spreading of knowledge, without trying to make money from it, should be free for anyone to do.
Petra

God help you!
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Why

i still don’t know the REASON why megaupload was shutdown. they deleted all files for which they received dmca complains. :S wtf
- Fantastic
  
  Kim had spat in the face of the industry with the MegaSong and I think this was also a appeasement for the failure to pass their censorship/monopoly legislation SOPA/PIPA/OPEN. The reasons the justice department gives for the raid are BS about a “Mega Conspiracy” and tries to paint these guys as on the same level as the Mob or Terrorists. Hence the use of Rico laws to get the papers necessary for the raid and whatnot.
  
  Yea it was proven a couple years ago in court that Megaupload did abide by DMCA…but when is such a pesky thing as the law gotten in the way of what the copyright lobby wants. They may not realize it but this action is the start of the death knell for their corrupt parasitic industry. If this goes to court Kim will have a strong case and it will show just how wrong the route they took was. They will do and have already started to do anything they can to keep him from appearing in a court of law that isn’t a kangaroo court with a MAFIAA lackey squatting in the place of a real judge.
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http://7-books.net/ SleepyJohn

This has nothing to do with how many digital files can be attached to a digital link (cf. angels on a pinhead), or any of the rest of it. This is a simple case of a greedy criminal organisation – the MAFIAA – trying to wrest control of the internet from the people, by bribing police and politicians and beating up defenceless old grannies and children: the exact same method used by its repulsive namesake to control neighbourhoods all over America.

It seems clear that the US lied through its teeth to NZ about what was going on here. Based on heavy, emotive claims of money laundering and ‘Organised Crime’ the NZ police were sent in with all guns blazing, and found a rather portly middle-aged man trying, not surprisingly, to hide. Where were the massed ranks of Mafia thugs with AK47s, the plods must have wondered, that they had obviously been warned to expect?

We must hope that the NZ government can find a legal way to avoid extraditing him to what must surely now rank as one of the most dangerously corrupt countries in the world. Then he can be fairly tried by an impartial judge and jury rather than a bunch of Organised MAFIAA Criminals and their political henchmen. I am sure KD is greyer than the snow on Mt Cook, but that should not deny him a fair trial.

This is a war between the MAFIAA and us, and in that context Dotcom is one of us; especially if he can operate a system giving the people free content while paying the artists a fair sum directly (rather than 1% ten years later, minus imaginary expenses). No wonder this grasping criminal shite is trying to destroy him. I really hope he does evade the clutches of the odious American MAFIAA cartel.

“Give me your tired, your poor,
A new generation yearning to share free,
I will steal the last dime from every parent & papoose.
Send these, the gullible, the innocent, the trusting, to me:
I drink to our rape of the Golden Goose.”

What a gruesome travesty of a nation the “Land of the Free” has become.
- http://www.facebook.com/ialienweb Mark Baker
  
  You are correct. American Authorities acted criminally here. I am sorry for my government, its wrong. Most Americans will look this over or never even hear about how this whole thing shakes out.
  
  Although what happened is one of the most disturbing events I have ever heard of in quite some time using my tax dollars. I hope NZ lawyers up get’s involved and this man get’s back in business with everything returned to him along with a massive apology by the American government.
Bosphorus

Kim told TorrentFreak. “We feel that the action taken against us was political.”

Yeah,Digital Millennium wars.Where is the copyright of E=MC2,world map,mathematics..

I am grandchild the person who finds mathematics,I want my copyright.

Please don’t manage world with copyright,facebook and twits.Pull your hand on Internet.

Each person to downloading files,they are not customers of your products.
Phil Landry

Could he uses BBS (If it still exists?)
Gffddfg

beat the hell out of them

the internet is with you
Jake D.

Why the fuck was he jailed in the first place? He’s guilty before his trial? Did he represent a danger for the public? I don’t think so.

So wtf? The NZ government is trying to look tough in front of the g-men? Sad.
Anonymous

http://lnk.co/IHOTL
Guest

So assuming they (Dotcom and crew) win, is Megaupload coming back or something?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Wilmer-Donkor/100001932300711 Wilmer Donkor

Buzzzzzzzzzzz
Anonymous

Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom gave his first TV interview after being out on bail. ‘I’m no piracy king’ Transcript http://j.mp/AgNxq3 video http://j.mp/ysozrq Interview was with NZ’s TV3 current affairs show Campbell Live w interview John Campbell (Twitter @JohnJCampbell ) Well worth a read/view. Also you’ll find links from there to the story about how US authorities are aiming their legal guns at his pregnant wife.
Anonymous

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Guest

I hope he does win. And sues some of those jerks that have been pushing for digital regression.

He found a way to profit from the work of others and in their own ignorance, they push to repress the internet? If they had half a brain, Kim wouldn’t have profited in the first place because they would have realized that their old business model is failing. Since they’re not bright enough to figure that out, here we are.

Kim may not be the best character in the world, but he’s the lesser of two evils.
Carl

Cant see Megaupload losing really, the internet is based on file sharing and storage, and if you remove this, then the Internet will collapse.

All you will have, if file sharing and storage is removed is chat where there is more serious crimes being committed.

Most file sharing sites at the moment appear to be concerned and frightened because of Megauplioads court case, I don’t see why.

The Motion Picture industry is no pretty picture, outrageous costs and so much corruption.

Lets hope the Lawyers for Megaupload sue for costs relating to users who have been deprived of using the storage site and lost all their data.

Its not all one way traffic here, the prosecutors may think they have the upper hand, but with the law, it can change very quickly with good legal advice and defence.

Prosecutors must be worried, because they keep adding charges, this suggests they are not confident and want to make a deal.
Megaupload User

Megaupload was the best file sharing site!
Free and fast!
I’m not jealous on Kim, cause he earned fortune from this. His company gave quality service! He deserved the fortune.
I’m angry with FBI. They should have only reserve the copyrighted stuff, not all! Not my private stuff, not my friend’s private stuff he sent to me and he cannot resend because he is in hospital!
This FBI are just hypocrites! HYPOCRITES!!!

FREE KIM!
GET MEGAUPLOAD BACK!
FBI SHOULD PAY FOR THIS!
Bj

go kim you have to win this make megaupload alive again i only trust megaupload cause its the fastest uploader

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