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Oscar Winner Wants Kids and ISPs Targeted to Prevent Piracy

During a keynote speech, Oscar-winning Chariots of Fire producer David Puttnam announced a number of measures he’d like to see taken against piracy. In addition to educating children at an early age that’s it wrong to download copyrighted material, he wants movie camcording outlawed and ISPs held responsible for the activities of their users.

The Film Distributors’ Association (FDA) is the trade body for UK theatrical film distributors. As a member of the UK’s Federation Against Copyright Theft (FACT), FDA is also engaged on-going initiatives to combat film piracy.

FDA president and Oscar-winning Chariots of Fire producer (Lord) David Puttnam recently gave a keynote speech where he called for new measures to be taken against Internet piracy.

One option is the increasingly common targeting of children, with Puttnam suggesting that the concept of intellectual property needs to be “embedded inextricably into the school curriculum.” Children need to be taught that if they want movies in new ways and formats they have to pay for them, he added.

Puttnam said that the FDA-sponsored project to get this information into schools is well underway, with one in five primary schools (that’s 5 to 11 year-olds) having been serviced by the charity set up to distribute pro-movie and pro-copyright information.

While it may be beneficial to educate young people about what copyright is, there are a problem areas. First and foremost is where this information is coming from, i.e interested parties. Since the focus of this information will be aimed at ‘protecting’ its members, in order to maintain a balance, who will tell the children about the drawbacks of restrictive copyright?

Second, we all know that children are like sponges, soaking up information at an amazing rate with an amazing capacity for learning, but should copyright really be taught to the detriment of other subjects in an already intensely crowded curriculum?

Will a 7 year-old really be able to grasp the huge complexities of even basic copyright law? Will he or she be expected to know the difference between, let’s say, the BBC-provided iPlayer service and the dozens of unauthorized sites providing movies and TV shows at the click of a button? Even adults have difficulty telling the difference.

But in the main, will kids care? If an interview we conducted in 2007 is anything to go by, probably not.

Even now, more than 2 years later, although the kid we interviewed is much more aware of what is ‘right and ‘wrong’, she still has no problem with clicking a link and getting media for free. She told me recently that she doesn’t care about how it got there, only that it is. She strongly sees the back issues as not her problem. It’s difficult to blame her – how would we react if some guy in a suit tried to burden us with this stuff at 12 years old?

Along with the educational element to his organization’s work against piracy, Puttnam says he believes that the Digital Economy Bill lacks teeth and more pressure needs to be brought against ISPs.

“One of the mistakes made is allowing the ISPs to pretend they are not part of a retail chain,” said Puttnam. “If you or I wanted to open a chemist shop we would have to pay attention to health and safety and the nature of the products that we sold. We couldn’t just serve anyone, for instance.”

Of course, ISPs are responsible for the product they sell, but they sell bandwidth over which other companies sell products or provide services for which they are responsible.

Continuing the emotive ‘chemist’ analogy, although legally there is a requirement for them to sell safe products, they cannot be held responsible, say, if some pharmaceutical giant makes a huge error and packs poison inside a paracetamol package. Is the pharmacist really expected to open every packet of every medicine he sells checking for something dangerous inside? So why should ISPs be expected to do the same?

In his speech, Puttnam also called for a change in legislation to outlaw the use of camcorders in UK cinemas, something which is currently entirely legal. Despite this legal status, it didn’t stop the FDA from convincing UK charity CrimeStoppers last year to partner in a campaign to encourage the public to be vigilant and help prevent camcording.

Although Puttnam’s speech had its faults, he is absolutely, unequivocally right about one thing. Film content must be made available legally online “in ways consumers want, and at prices they can afford” in order to discourage the use of illicit file-sharing.

This should be the number one priority of the movie and music industries.

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  • What

    Nice article.

    First

  • YOU MOM

    First

  • Casual Reader

    LOL… um he want brainwash ppl wow.

    This guy is sure smoking something strong!!

  • YOU MOM

    #2 how does it feel to not be #1

  • Sam

    “One of the mistakes made is allowing the ISPs to pretend they are not part of a retail chain,”…as I see it, the ISP has about as much involvement as the UPS guy.

    The ONLY way for the industry to stop piracy is DRM-free films either at ridiculously low prices, an affordable unlimited plan, or an ISP filesharing tax (I still like the idea).

  • Anon-E-moose

    So throw more of the tax payers’ money away to educate school children on how it’s “important” to respect your copyrighted shit. Don’t we have better things to do with tax money then protecting a flawed outdated laws? Copyright needs to be reformed.

    The revolution starts now!

  • Knux

    No mate, we paid for your craptastic movies for too long and kept waiting for new formats. O look! MORE PLASTIC DISCS! We aren’t the pirates, YOU ARE! Taking our money for a subpar service.

  • Zippo

    Clearly they’re not familiar with the Streisand Effect… you try and teach kids that “oh noes, pirating is wrong” and kids are going to immediately think “you can download movies and music for free?!” and probably start downloading at an earlier age. Good job!

    People want high-quality downloads of movies and TV shows – on demand. Instead of bitching about piracy, why don’t you give the consumers what they want – at a fair price?

  • Anonymous

    Hello! this would further promote piracy.

    Seems like they’re trying to get every age group aware that content is not available to purchase reasonably online but hey here’s how you can get it today for free, what is the child going to do?

  • Heli

    A downloadable version of a movie should cost half of what a retail store version cost. Doubt it will happen though. These greedy nazi’s wont let that happen. They don’t have to produce a disc, case, covers, or pay a cut to reatil stores or shipping cost. So figure it out Mafia dongs. Until prices are resonable, file sharing will continue to grow.

  • emtunc

    I won’t be sending my kids to any public school that tries to brain wash them about ‘piracy’.
    How about teaching them not to get pregnant at 12 years old first, then you can teach them how downloading is ‘wrong’.

  • air head

    Sony begins selling HD movies on its PSN – http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/99858/sony-begins-selling-hd-movies-its-psn

    New Releases Older Titles
    HD Rental $5.99 US HD Rental $4.50 US
    HD Own $19.99 US HD Own $17.99 US
    SD Rental $3.99 US SD Rental $2.99 US
    SD Own $14.99 US SD Own $9.99 US

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if they’ll teach the counter point of free and open source content/code.

    That sometimes people like to get together just for the betterment of mankind.

    Or won’t we have any of this sharing nonsense in our kindergarten class?

  • Pilgrimman

    Until the movie industry presents me with DRM-free 1080p quality downloadable content at a fair price (read: 5 USD or less per movie), they won’t be making any money from me. How about we put our money into more important things, such as the economy, aids, malaria, etc. instead of spending truckloads telling kids that camming is somehow ‘wrong’.

  • Dante.Xaiver

    Sony can go to hell thats for sure until they bring their service to canada im not paying , then again why should i give my money to the nazis in hollywood if its just going to go to giving actors ridiculous earnings

  • Anonymous

    Agreed with #11 emtunc

    There are WAY too little education on sex in schools.
    These people are too fucking blinded by greed. They just want to change the laws that would bring them more profit instead of something that would benefit humanity.

  • Yadda

    No matter how many times they pay some Hollywood Star to say that piracy sucks. The star is going to go home and download another mp3. Open up their favorite streaming site and watch movies.

  • Anonymous

    @12

    great it’s available for download but why so expensive? There is no need for those prices to be $20 to own.

  • Anonymous

    ooh someones a kiss-ass lol.

  • Anonymous

    Just because the FDA wants this does not mean it will be impemented.

    “I wonder if they’ll teach the counter point of free and open source content/code.”

    What would be the point? It would be as bad as teaching what this Putnam idiot want frankly.

    “That sometimes people like to get together just for the betterment of mankind.”

    As far as entertainment eg. music, books and movies, nothing offered for free has ever been popular or meaningful – that is, people haven’t found it woth consuming Aside from possibly video games (but still to a very limited extent).

    Almost all movies, video games and to some extent music require highly skilled people to be involved in the process menaing rank amatuers cannot enter the field and produce something people want to see until they have attained some level of skill. Why are these people going to produce content free when they can do the same thing and get paid for it?

    Also it’s extremely rare (not unheard of granted) for people to produce something of value in their spare time. Most people want the benefits (consumer goods and material wealth, security in their old age etc). This means they have to spend a large portion of their time working and not producing art. If they are paid for producing creative works then art will get produced – if they are not then very little is produced.

  • Anonymous

    >As far as entertainment eg. music, books and movies, nothing offered for free has ever been popular or meaningful – that is, people haven’t found it woth consuming Aside from possibly video games (but still to a very limited extent).

    Been to youtube lately?

    inb4 HERP THATS NOT POPULAR OR “ART”

  • Anonymous

    @Dante.Dick

    “Sony can go to hell thats for sure until they bring their service to canada im not paying ”

    YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE INTERNET DOES NOT HAVE A GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION AREN’T YOU?

    Also stop uploading malware to The Pirate Bay please, there’s enough of it already.

  • dang it

    You know at first I got upset.. but theres really no reason to.

    Ideas like this never work, never take off, and never make any impact.

    Its all a bunch of a BS.

  • Anonymous

    if it was my kids i would not let them sit through this garbage as it has no place in the school.

  • Conrad

    Silly idea that ISP’s should be responsible for what people do with the access they buy. Like making BMW responsible because somebody used one of their cars in a hit and run, or as a getaway car after a robbery. No sane person would make that claim. But making ISp’s, who sell people vehicles to access the information superhighway, responsible for what people do on that road, no problem. Nuts.

  • Anonymous

    @22

    Until we’ve gone and convinced entire generations that marijuana is an evil psychosis inducing baby killing satan weed.

    Oops. It turns out propaganda on children does have the darndest effects.

  • froggger

    One option is the increasingly common targeting of children, with Puttnam suggesting that the concept of intellectual property needs to be “embedded inextricably into the school curriculum.”

    yeah lets just do away with all physical activity in primary schools so our fat children can have some more meaningless crap put in their heads so greedy bastards can have more cash

    i Fukin DARE YOU to get children involved and see what backlash you get from the people

  • RIAAtarded

    Forget these clowns. Teachers have a hard enough time. Over worked , under paid, large class sizes and a lack of resources to give the next generation a proper education as it is. We got kids in high schools that can’t read but they should know copyright law.

    When will government and social focus and funding go where it belongs. Healthcare, educations etc.We need to rebuild New Orleans ,fix the economy, get people back in their home, create jobs. Teaching our 6yo the evils of their ipod shouldn’t even be on the list. Moral s and ethics are a parents domain.

  • Riv

    S##t, I showed my 5-yr old Iron Man on my laptop yesterday. Hope he doesn’t tell his teacher….

  • Anonymous

    If anti smoking campaigns don’t work, why would this??

  • Dante.Xaiver

    Ok Let me explain this again my uplaods at pirate bay are safe , I am a helper there or was before i took time of , I know what to upload and what not to upload , my torrents were even cleared with the other staff and declared safe

    its called False Positives I hate malware thats why i switched to Ubuntu for good .I would never upload soemthign i know would infect others.

  • djnforce9

    Yeah it’s blatantly obvious that the industry finds the current generation of youth a lost cause at this point so they want to jump to the next.

    I don’t think parents who are aware of this sort of thing will approve of their children being educated this way. There are more important things to learn and plus the knowledge will likely be very one-sided and distorted.

  • General Snus

    Any smoking campaigns do work. Much much much less people smoke now than in the past, its not as socially acceptable to smoke as the past, much less kids even try smoking than the past, etc…

  • HappyPirate

    I have a better idea.

    Instead of molesting young children by lying to them about imaginary property, why don’t we just put all those greedy bastards in camps and teach THEM right from wrong.

    It would be cheaper as well.

  • Anonymous

    “if they want movies in new ways and formats they have to pay for them”

    ye, but do we have access to these ‘new ways’ ?

  • me

    #9 “Hello! this would further promote piracy.”

    Couldn’t we all please stop calling copyright infrigement “piracy”?

  • Metalhead

    @15 i totally agree,the media industries are starting a war on file sharers so they can pay their stars 10 million per movie and sometimes more.

  • M3

    The Motion Picture Association of America (MAFIAA) issued their annual report on the movie business yesterday – and to hear the MPAA say it, things have never been better for Hollywood. http://bit.ly/aXwwgS

  • Robert Flack

    Metalhead – the movie business was paying their stars that amount long before filesharing started, and way before you were just a twinkle in the milkman’s eye.

    You ‘sharers’ really do over estimate your importance in the world, don’t you?

    Also, some of you say that copyright law is outdated and needs to be changed. The same goes for most laws as time progresses – they adapt to the social reality (i.e. long bow practise is no longer compulsory on Sundays in England).

    Copyright law may have to change, indeed it is reviewed relatively often. But do you really think that the creators, administrators, marketers, investors are one day just going to throw their hands up and say:

    “there’s a large group of chronic Masterbaters hiding behind VPNs who have decided that they shouldn’t pay for anything anymore, so we had better just pack up and go home. Oh, actually let’s just continue to invest our time and money in creating stuff so they can bravely shout ‘death to copyright’ and continue to share”

    Honestly, maybe these industries would be a little more negotiable if you guys weren’t such a bunch of morons.

  • fay

    He wants [quote]“ISPs held responsible for the activities of their users”[unquote]

    The telephone companies are not held responsible for the ‘activities of their users’, which can include bomb threats, scamming schemes, and massive amounts of harrassment.

    Sure the phone companies have records of when and where a call was placed, and they’ll give the authorities the phone number on record if a court order is issued, but that doesn’t prove who placed the call nor is the phone company held responsible for the illegal activity taking place via their phone service.

    Why should ISPs be held responsible for illegal activity if phone companies are not?

    Why not hold car companies responsible for their vehicles being used in bank heists and terrorists acts? Shouldn’t they be held responsible for drunk drivers too and all other “activities of their users”?

    Come on. Where will it end?

    An individual person is and should be held responsible for his or her individual actions — NOT service providers in any industry whose service or product enables their customers to perform normal day-to-day tasks, and incidentally also enables some illegal activity if a customer chooses to use the service or product for that purpose.

    Going after service providers instead of individual people who actually perform the illegal activity is ridiculous, and I find it offensive and arrogant for the movie and entertainment industry to think it’s the right thing to do.

  • Goug

    Had all the time, effort, and money of bringing blue ray to market been spent on developing a new method to stream high def over the internet, perhaps things would be different now. Bringing a new type of plastic disk into the market to try and get us all to buy was not a smart idea. I really could care less if Star Wars is remastered to blue ray. It was fine on VHS.

  • Anonymous

    Dante.Xavier said: “Ok Let me explain this again my uplaods at pirate bay are safe , I am a helper there or was before i took time of”

    Someone who is known for uploading malware was a *helper* at The Pirate Bay? WTF? No wonder there is so much malware uploaded..

    “my torrents were even cleared with the other staff and declared safe”

    Staff approved the uploading of copyrighted work? Seriously? Makes their disclaimers about copyrighted works look pretty stupid even with the “legal” pages.

    Seriously, I cannot believe that staff allowed you to upload malware, that is appalling. At least they eventually kicked you out of there after waking up though.

  • Teach Me

    Children should be taught at an early age to give their last pennies to rich American corporate executives and look forward to lives eating out of dumpsters and sleeping on the streets.

    Make it law!

  • phreeky

    Also it’s extremely rare (not unheard of granted) for people to produce something of value in their spare time.

    Are you kidding?

  • djnforce9

    @39: Of course I don’t expect them to sit quietly while their material is being distributed for free en masse.

    However, they could take measures to mitigate this matter without these legal attacks and (except it maybe the worst case scenarios such as when workprints of unreleased movies get leaked) as wasting children’s education time with biased/one-sided information.

    For example
    1. Release the movie globally at the same time. None of this “you have to wait a few months first” nonsense. This is especially a problem with TV show release schedules. Naturally a fan will want to watch it when THEY want and not wait for some corporate decision to be made.

    2. Stop overcharging. Now this may very well be a myth because movies DO take a lot of money to produce. HOWEVER, there is no need to charge full price years after the initial sales nor for constant “re-releases” (Yes, I’m looking at you Disney).

    3. Focus more on digital distribution. It’s safe to say that for SOME people, discs are beginning to phase out and that relatively large HDD on a media centre can easily replace them (after all, that’s the format you get when you download a movie). Same deal if you use your PS3 to play movies. So why not have a digital store that sells you the movies on demand the same way steam does it for games and iTunes does it for music? From what I’ve seen, these stores aren’t exactly common. Either that or have a rental streaming service where you pay X dollars and can watch the movie (streamed) for a certain period of time or pay more to have it permanently unlocked to your account. In my case, I don’t even have a BluRay player (or drive) so the only way for me to watch HD movies is through downloading it to my computer.

  • fay

    Comment 40/fay said: Why should ISPs be held responsible for illegal activity if phone companies are not?

    Yes! Phone companies should be held responsible too! They should listen to each and every phone call people make just to be sure no one is doing something illegal!

    Then ISPs won’t be able to complain about being required to spy on their customers. Everyone will be equal and happy!

    Make it a law!

  • duane

    We don’t need no education, we don’t need no thought control…

  • Trelew

    It is wrong on so many levels what this guy is trying to suggest to do in public schools. Indoctrination of children with corporate propaganda?!? That would be like a teacher tell her students that its better to be a Roman Catholic than a Muslim. This is the kind of stuff that Nazi Germany pulled off! Stick to teaching the kids the basics of education rather than training them to be good little corporate citizens.

    Also getting the ISPs to be their cops goes against so many human rights issues. It’s like the Postal Services nosing around in our mail on the chance they might find something evil. If they get their way on this, all this will do will drive prices up as the cost are passed on to the consumer…again!

    This is a good example why Big Business is finding so much opposition from the public. From the behind-doors manipulation of the government, corruption of our courts, DRM (which has been proven it doesn’t work), not providing a good product at a reasonable price. When are these rich manipulative corporate bastards going to realize; that if you bully us with these over-the-tops tactics, we will rebel?!?

  • Tomas

    I really see his point and agree with it wholeheartedly.

    I mean look at the evidence. At an early age children here are taught that smoking is bad for their health. As we can see, after that happened no children ever smoked again.

    Then children were taught that unsafe sex is bad and they should use protection, while also waiting until they are 16 (UK legal age). They are taught that they shouldn’t feel peer pressure to do anything just because their friends are. As we see, teen prengnancy rates dropped. Nobody ever got an STD again.

    So now we tell them that downloading films and music etc over the internet is bad. Of course the rates of piracy will drop.

    I fail to see how his plan has any flaws.

  • fred

    Why is p2p still so popular when walmart sales dvd’s for $4.99? There’s too many college students using p2p 24/7 slowing down the whole net.

  • chisophugis

    “Children need to be taught that if they want movies in new ways and formats they have to pay for them, he added.”

    WTF? The reason we download them “illegally” is because there are no “new ways and formats” that we even CAN pay for. Maybe if movie and music companies developed some “new ways and formats” for their media then they will be able to fight piracy.

  • AnarchyNow

    U$A = worse than nazi totalitarian gloal dictatorship
    Do these inbred morons really believe that destroying all remains of freedom in the world to fight “piracy”(which is just free filesharing, not money-making) will lead to anything but a global revolution certainly with lots of these totally useless billionaires getting righteously killed?

  • Ninja

    Children tend to follow what the parents say. If my kid came home spilling copyright crap at me I`d promptly show both sides of the coin.

    I found this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/mar/12/demise-music-industry-facts today and it is pretty interesting. Indeed they moan about how piracy is hurting them but we can`t see proof. I must admit I`d love to see one or two major label getting owned because of their own mistakes but it seems such a thing is not happening anytime soon.

    It reminds us of the big oil companies like Exxon and so on in the beginning. They used to burn all gas until someone outside the oil industry found other uses to it such as illumination, heating and later as fuel for a range of engines, including the gas turbines. The point is, innovation came from outside. Oil&Gas companies still believe today that extracting the product is enough to keep them alive. Lucky them there were geniuses that helped renew the need for their products.

    MAFIAA and merry friends are lucky some outsiders are keeping their business running smooth. As pointed in that article P2P community is a huge and powerful marketing tool that can be used for FREE to promote their stuff and yet they are zealously trying to take down each and every of their costumers engaged in discovering new material and – wow – spending money on it afterward.

    In the end I disagree with the author of that post and Mr Puttnam. “Illegal” downloads are not wrong as long as you do buy things that deserve to be bought. That`s what I`m teaching my kids. That`s what I`m teaching my friends. I`m even telling the ones that buy illegal physical copies to stop doing that and download – then spend the money in quality stuff instead of feeding criminals. Now I ask you, what is wrong with that?

  • in.cog.nito

    Whelp there is another name to boycott his works.

    Jerkoff.

  • Devanite

    Its like my parents always told me, get a job in the mines (then I woulda had the money to buy things!!!) Retard!

  • Captain Music

    Placing “Oscar winner” in the title doesn’t make the article more important than “Random dipshit”.

    True story. Seriously, if the title reads “Random dipshit wants kids…” we’d all think the same.

  • Huggybaby

    “but should copyright really be taught to the detriment of other subjects in an already intensely crowded curriculum?”

    Why not? Wouldn’t the world be a better place it it had even more lawyers? Start ‘em young!

  • Anonymous

    More like brainwash the kids, and also, ISP’s cannot be held liable, it’s just another way of pushing blame off we see so commonly, if someone comes onto your property and breaks his leg because it’s not “safe” you’re not liable, the US court makes you want to think you are, but the bottom line is you can’t be liable for what someone else does. Also, teen pregnancy skyrocketed as they began teaching it in school, I expect filesharing too as well if this passes.

  • You’re kidding me

    So now we’re letting Big Business determine how children are going to be educated?

    Did I actually read that? This jerk wants to let corporations come into schools and teach children what’s “right and wrong”?

    Holy shit. This is just out of hand.

  • anonymouse

    so what measures has he or his opos’ taken against their own kind when movies get ‘leaked’ to the net? treat everyone the same and get some respect for your opinions, otherwise, do as has been suggested countless times, including in this article:

    Although Puttnam’s speech had its faults, he is absolutely, unequivocally right about one thing. Film content must be made available legally online “in ways consumers want, and at prices they can afford” in order to discourage the use of illicit file-sharing.

    This should be the number one priority of the movie and music industries.

  • Dante.Xaiver

    I was just thinking of something how are people supposed to be able to use this so called legally obtained media when most likely people using linux would not be able to use it at all

  • froggger

    @ 39

    You ’sharers’ really do over estimate your importance in the world, don’t you?

    yup we ARE the world matey boy and apparently so do teh various parasite companies that wish to protect their greed

  • grouchy-one

    Hah! Have they not heard of reverse psychology? Tell a bunch of school kids that downloading copyrighted material is bad… What do you think will happen?

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  • Whatever

    @ “One of the mistakes made is allowing the ISPs to pretend they are not part of a retail chain,”

    AND

    “If you or I wanted to open a chemist shop we would have to pay attention to health and safety and the nature of the products that we sold. We couldn’t just serve anyone, for instance.”

    Lets translate that to MAFIAA responsibilities:

    “One of the mistakes made is allowing the entertainment industry to pretend they are not part of high school shootings, ”
    AND
    “If you or i were to make a movie, a game or a song we would have to pay attention to the mental state of the buyer and the nature of the media that we sold. We couldn’t just sell to anyone not certified by a psychiatrist”

  • the uk is a joke

    Lmao wow.

    Remember the DARE program that was supposed to stop the surge in drug use???

    It FAILED. Kids wont remember anything they try to teach them a few years down the road.

  • neostyles

    Since the focus of this information will be aimed at ‘protecting’ its members, in order to maintain a balance, who will tell the children about the drawbacks of restrictive copyright?

    Restrictive copyright? Drawbacks? What, that they have to pay for things things and it’s less convent than simply stealing it? The same person who tells them that they can’t just take anything they want whenever they see it.

    Second, we all know that children are like sponges, soaking up information at an amazing rate with an amazing capacity for learning, but should copyright really be taught to the detriment of other subjects in an already intensely crowded curriculum?

    Considering that it can land them in serious trouble when they are older, yeah, I think it should be.

    Continuing the emotive ‘chemist’ analogy, although legally there is a requirement for them to sell safe products, they cannot be held responsible, say, if some pharmaceutical giant makes a huge error and packs poison inside a paracetamol package. Is the pharmacist really expected to open every packet of every medicine he sells checking for something dangerous inside? So why should ISPs be expected to do the same?

    A better analogy would be “what if the manufactorer was intentionally packing poison in pharmaceutical packages.” Piracy issn’t exactly an accident. It is a conscience decision. Second of all, the ISPs are the one who are enabling their customers to defraud other people out of their rightful profits, which makes them directly involved.

    Film content must be made available legally online “in ways consumers want, and at prices they can afford” in order to discourage the use of illicit file-sharing.

    Sure, it doesn’t matter that film producers are being robbed of millions of dollars every year just because people think they are entitled to free things.. They should be offering legal ways to get movies online? Well, actually they are. Every heard of intunes? Netflix? XBOX Live?

    No, they have very much done there part. The only thing is that pirates simply aren’t willing to fullfill their end of the deal. They aren’t willing to change.

    Pirates could care less about how much something cost. All they care about is their insatiable infatuation with free things.

  • Kev

    How about lowering the price of music and DVDs so kids can actually afford to buy them?

  • Yo

    There is nothing in the concept of “intellectual property” that says that if one wants to watch a movie he/she must pay for it.

    In fact the concept of “intellectual property” is such an advanced and abstract concept that the vast majority of grown educated adults are not able to grab it.

  • maki0129

    I was taught at age 7, very sternly that you should never ever doubt the word of God, and that his 10 commandments are absolute, and any action that trespasses on them is a sin that will be payed for in hell.

    I’m a zen buddhist, I teach introductory meditations courses every month at a temple.

    So, LOL at this guy’s ideas.

  • Free advert

    Once again, studios or their representatives are using this kind of news to freely promote their product.

    I’m pretty sure that in a couple months there will be another news about how much “illegal” downloads this film had.

  • Pico

    Think of the children!

  • Virotelisa

    “First and foremost is where this information is coming from, i.e interested parties”

    Very well stated indeed.

    If there is one thing that we should keep out of any college, it is this kind of “Lessons”, where only biased information is offered.

    What is next? “Love your president?”, “The marvel of democract”, “Nazism for a new world” or perhaps “Communism – How the world should be”?

    Best to just keep it at understandable and verifiable topics. And IF they need to add a topic that is based upon opinion that should be explicitly stated – and other opinions should be covered.

    But FDA + Hollywood Influence + Class Lessons = biased material with no educational value whatsoever.

  • Fail

    65

    WTF are you doing here? you taking the cock of the MPAA/RIAA? THis is a GD torrent/piracy POSITIVE website .. Take your brainwashing shit and go to Fox.com and f off..

  • Fail

    39

    WTF are you doing here? Take your MAFIAA cocksucking ass away from here and quit trolling for information so you suck off your boss

    NEXT

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  • nnnnnn

    This David Puttnam is an idiot living on wish island.

  • Anonymous

    This is actually a very good idea. It will teach kids at an early age to not believe everything their school is teaching them.

  • Anonymous

    @djdickforce9:

    “However, they could take measures to mitigate this matter without these legal attacks and (except it maybe the worst case scenarios such as when workprints of unreleased movies get leaked) as wasting children’s education time with biased/one-sided information.

    For example
    1. Release the movie globally at the same time. None of this “you have to wait a few months first” nonsense. This is especially a problem with TV show release schedules. Naturally a fan will want to watch it when THEY want and not wait for some corporate decision to be made.”

    Moron, when a TV show is aired is not up to the producers of the show, it’s up to the network it’s airing on. Your idea falls flat on it’s face.

    “2. Stop overcharging. Now this may very well be a myth because movies DO take a lot of money to produce. HOWEVER, there is no need to charge full price years after the initial sales nor for constant “re-releases” (Yes, I’m looking at you Disney).”

    Considering the rest of your post we are no meant to believe you ideas on marketing as well?

    “3. Focus more on digital distribution. It’s safe to say that for SOME people, discs are beginning to phase out and that relatively large HDD on a media centre can easily replace them (after all, that’s the format you get when you download a movie). Same deal if you use your PS3 to play movies. So why not have a digital store that sells you the movies on demand the same way steam does it for games and iTunes does it for music? From what I’ve seen, these stores aren’t exactly common. Either that or have a rental streaming service where you pay X dollars and can watch the movie (streamed) for a certain period of time or pay more to have it permanently unlocked to your account. In my case, I don’t even have a BluRay player (or drive) so the only way for me to watch HD movies is through downloading it to my computer.”

    Your amazing (lol) analysis has missed out that many forms of digital distribution have already been up and running for years and more are coming onstream all the time.

    This post just shows that pirates will use all the justification in the world such as “I’d buy it if I could through digital distribution” and yet totally ignore the fact that what they are “asking” for already exists. It also doesn’t stop them making “analysis” that would have looked out of date in 2001 either.

  • Speaking of Importance

    @5 – “The ONLY way for the industry to stop piracy is DRM-free films either at ridiculously low prices, an affordable unlimited plan, or an ISP filesharing tax” – I agree.

    @15 “why should i give my money to the nazis in hollywood if its just going to go to giving actors ridiculous earnings” – Again, I agree.

    @39 “You ’sharers’ really do over estimate your importance in the world, don’t you?” – ‘Entertainers’ are the ones over estimating their importance in the world. Go save a tree or something and then we’ll talk funding.

    @50 “Why is p2p still so popular when walmart sales dvd’s for $4.99? There’s too many college students using p2p 24/7 slowing down the whole net.” – If you had an education, you would know how expensive it is. Leave the students alone.

    Hey Mafiaa, want to solidfy some importance in the world? Stop raising funds for charitable organizations and put your money where your mouth is. The rest of us live check to check trying to save enough to retire in 30 years. You can retire now if you wanted to.

    jerks.

  • Digitalbaby

    Following the Chemist analogy – it would be more like holding the landlord of the building that houses the pharmacy responsible for the pharmaceutical giant’s error.

    The landlord rents out the space, nothing more.

  • Observer

    LMFAO I would never pay $4.50 for a movie rental, I wouldn’t even buy a movie for $4.50. I use netflix and hulu, but they don’t have everything :( so I have to resort to other means of getting the content they don’t carry. As for the teaching kids not to pirate? They had these anti-porn classes in 2nd and 3rd grade when we learned to use the internet and computers. There are these bad site with naked people on them bad people did it don’t go to those sites, click the home button if one pops up. What naked people? starts looking for the site ooh my what is this? :)

  • TerribleTony

    “Children need to be taught that if they want movies in new ways and formats they have to pay for them, he added.”

    But this is why piracy increased, because kids wanted stuff in new formats, and the labels wouldn’t let them buy.

  • Einstein

    Interesting.
    I’ll make sure to teach my kids everything there is to know about the MAFIAA, and to see them for what they are and what they REALLY stand for.
    I’ll teach them all there is to know about the internet as well, and what it stands for, and what it means for us the consumers.
    Not to go off topic here, but I’ll also teach them not to participate in any wars which have no justification (I had to mention this because it’ll be a matter of life and death to them; unlike “piracy” which does not kill anyone).

  • Tyler

    This is sick. Teaching 7-year olds about copyright laws. Will the world end like we all fear? Run by some big company who controls everything and everyone?

  • Barry

    at my sister’s school some of the teachers are misleading children that windows 7 has some kind of spyware in it that informs the police if you pirate music.

    I couldn’t believe it when she told me, who knows what else they’ve lied about?

  • PLASMARIFLE

    the only thing my kids will be taught is to not believe what these wanky prats spew in the name of greed and revenue.
    who the hell is this guy anyway? im positive no one is interested in a lame movie from the early eighties to pirate.
    whats this guys true motive? other then hoodwinking children with misinformation.

  • Whatever

    More can play the blame game…

    Neocons (#66) text:
    “”A better analogy would be “what if the manufactorer was intentionally packing poison in pharmaceutical packages.” Piracy issn’t exactly an accident. It is a conscience decision. Second of all, the ISPs are the one who are enabling their customers to defraud other people out of their rightful profits, which makes them directly involved.”"

    (i know, i should look into quote codes sometime)

    Trying to confuse again with half comparisons. Forgetting to mention that the pharmacist in the example still isn’t responsible for the manufacturer.

    But then again, i expect the next time someone acts out a movie killing people “on purpose” all of the movie industry will get the death penalty which is in line with neocons logic.

    For neocons ISP argument it would be the following: “Second of all the movie industry are the one who are enabling their more unstable customers to act out the movie and kill a few people, which makes them directly involved”

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  • 2joints

    Its like telling your kids masturbation is bad, but sometime down the line theyre gonna do it.

  • Anonymous
  • Movie Watcher

    Movie watcher wants director who doesn’t understand the importance of ISPs being treated as common carriers, especially in a time when a significant portion of the general public seem willing to trade their freedom for the illusion of safety, much less to preserve an outdated business model, to suck his motherfucking dick.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, but I’ll teach my kids correct morals. Thanks.

  • arse

    The funny thing is no body wants to watch his shit. He shouldn’t even bother.

  • john

    Because the movie producers hate redbox and the music producers hate itunes, they are the exception to the rule. Why would they sell at wal-mart prices when they can get a lot more elsewhere.

  • your ex customer

    I’ll be teaching my kids and everyone else’s kids that open source is the way to go. Big entertainment companies are either going to have to adopt the new business models of the new era or keep losing customers.

    Who the freakin a buys cds and dvds anymore??

  • Adi

    lol
    He is asking to indoctrinate children from an early age. What he wants to do is not education.

  • James

    Are they honestly going to waste precious school learning time, for th wishes of rich media company’s? You’re idea is a joke, David Puttnam as I have said.

  • Freeleech

    Chariots of Fire? Another crappy movie I won’t watch.

  • Dia

    I’m sure they’d be happy to tell the kids about independent movies and movie makers and legally free movies on the net, as well.

  • Anonymous

    yeah maybe he should stick to the gay men on the beach movie business and leave IT and Law to those who are trained in it.

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  • Yatti420

    You know it’s bad when the laws etc he wants changed have been implemented in other parts of the world and do nothing to stop piracy.

  • Yatti420

    And remember kids.. When you download The Hurt Locker make sure you have an ipfilter loaded into utorrent and peerblock configured correctly..

  • Irishtech

    Does anyone thing its funny, that after all their bitching, all their fighting and whining, all the lawsuits and so on.

    The music industry and film industry are still reporting billion dollar profits.

    Its profit, so their expenses are covered. All their bills are covered, all their losses covered. This is pure profit. And they still complain.

  • Anonymous

    These muthaphuckers are never satisfied until they are dead!

  • Joe

    “One of the mistakes made is allowing the ISPs to pretend they are not part of a retail chain,” said Puttnam. “If you or I wanted to open a chemist shop we would have to pay attention to health and safety and the nature of the products that we sold. We couldn’t just serve anyone, for instance.”

    Yeah… but we don’t blame the people who make the ROADS to the pharmacy now, do we?

  • The Rolling Sign Painter

    I don’t think it’s much of a stink
    Regardless of what they all think
    I’d much more prefer
    If you’d all demur
    Into clicking the following link:

    http://bit.ly/30nIK

  • Bob

    Darn communist propaganda!

  • beef

    sounds like D.A.R.E here in the states. indoctrination is the order of the day according to this asshole. and its not communist propaganda, bob-arino. its something much more prevalent and its called captialism.

  • beef

    war on intellectual property. doublethink; acknowledge and deny.

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