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PRQ Raid Targets Revealed, Pirate Party Gets Boost, Plot Thickens….

Two targets of a police raid on PRQ this week have been revealed. Authorities still aren’t talking, but the boss of the hosting company says one of the seized servers belongs to Sweden’s former number two torrent site Tankafetast. The second domain of interest is Appbucket, which appears to be the same site targeted by the FBI during the summer. Meanwhile, the Swedish Pirate Party is basking in a huge spike in member signups as a direct result of the raids.

Police carried out a raid against Swedish hosting company PRQ on Monday and the searches were finally completed today.

The immediate effect was that all sites hosted on the 80.88./19 net went down, including the torrent sites torrenthound.com, linkomanija.net and tankafetast.nu, release blog RLSLOG.net, and sports streaming sites atdhenet.tv, hahasport.com, sportlemon.tv and stopstream.tv. In all, dozens were affected.

The individual sites listed above are now back online, with one notable exception – Tankafetast.

As reported earlier this year, Tankafetast was once Sweden’s second largest torrent site but in February decided to call it quits. The closure was prompted by a Supreme Court decision that it would not be granting leave to appeal in the long-running Pirate Bay case and subsequent warnings of a file-sharing site crackdown from Hollywood lawyer Monique Wadsted and Antipiratbyrån lawyer Henrik Pontén.

Despite the announcement Tankafetast had remained online until this week, but as confirmed by PRQ owner Mikael Viborg this morning, the police took the site’s server on Monday.

“They took three servers, and I know two of the sites that were targets of the raid. The first is Tankafetast.com or Tankafett.com, they are different names for the same site,” he said.

“The other is a site called Appbucket.com. It has not been on since April when they stopped paying their bills, so no other customer has taken over the server,” Viborg added.

Although Viborg is quoted as referencing Appbucket.com, that site has zero traffic and is owned by Photobucket, Inc., a seemingly unlikely target for a police operation.

However, switch to Appbucket.net and things get a whole lot more interesting. That site was the subject of legal action in August when the FBI seized its domain in a crackdown against Android app piracy. It was also hosted by PRQ.

The site currently diverts to the familiar ‘seized’ server notice, but its WHOIS entry reveals that it is still registered to PRQ itself, care of none other than Pirate Bay co-founder and former PRQ owner Gottfrid Svartholm. TorrentFreak is currently awaiting further information from Mikael Viborg.

Overall, the raids this week generated a lot of interest from web users, particularly as they coincided with The Pirate Bay being offline. The site has now returned, but its interesting to see how many other torrent sites received a boost as a result of its downtime.

As can be seen from the member graph below, another direct beneficiary of the raids is the Swedish Pirate Party. After having its server seized this week, Tankafetast redirected its domain to the Party’s Facebook page.

PPStats

“This resulted in a very welcome onslaught of new members,” explains Pirate Party leader Anna Troberg.

“Last time I checked, we had about a thousand new members and 12,000 new likes on Facebook in a day.”

Authorities are currently refusing to discuss the raids but anti-piracy group Antipiratbyrån confirms that on Monday “50 illegal sites” went offline as a result of the action at PRQ.

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  • Nanotomics

    Gottfrid Svartholm, how does it feel to be so loved?

    • yello

      arrrgh… the pirate life for me…

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  • Guest

    THE HARDER YOU TRY TO STOP US, THE MORE POWERFUL WE BECOME.

    LONG LIVE PIRATES, LONG LIVE PIRACY!!!

    • chronoss chiron

      still supporting child molestation and child rape on PRQ are ya?
      won’t be long you will be gone…..

      • Anyone

        there is no illegal content on PRQ
        if people want to talk about paedophilia, why stop them? they have the freedom of speech same as you

        • chronoss chiron

          i bet some jews would think different about discussions on how to oven a few more of them….

        • Anyone

          @google-8deb2585acdb8455ed06c714b2a17316:disqus
          you can do that, more power to you

        • Guest

          If people aren’t allowed to talk about pedophilia then that makes it a lot harder to catch pedophiles, no?

        • Fredrika

          > “If people aren’t allowed to talk about pedophilia then that makes it a lot harder to catch pedophiles, no?”

          Since it isn’t illegal to have a certain sexual preference, such as pedophilia, why should anyone catch pedophiles?

        • Cbimahyk

           @Fredrika : I beg to differ.Pedophilia is Illegal at a bazzilion countries (mine included), pedos get arrested and convicted which is the right thing.You wouldn’t let a sicko near your kid now, would you?p.s: I fail to see chronos ch. obsession with prq tho.Grow up already and stop copy + pasting stuff

        • Fredrika

          > “I beg to differ.Pedophilia is Illegal at a bazzilion countries (mine included),..”

          Are you another one of those ignorant idiots who can’t tell apart the sexual orientation of pedophelia from the act of rape or sexual child abuse? Having done absolutely nothing other than having a sexual orientation, which one has not chosen, is most certainly not illegal in a bazzilion countries. It might be in Iran and similar inhuman dictatorships, is that where you live? If so you should be aware of the fact that no civilized democratic country have similar laws.

          > “..pedos get arrested and convicted which is the right thing.”

          It is most certainly not the right thing to arrest and convict someone who has performed no act or harm to anyone else, who’s only crime is to have a certain sexuality, which wasn’t that person’s choice in the first place.

          > “You wouldn’t let a sicko near your kid now, would you?”

          First of all, being a pedophile does not equal being stupid, evil or lacking empathy and understanding for the certain actions can harm pre-pubertal children, which therefore could lead that person to harming pre-pubertal children, sexually or otherwise. In reality only a small percentage of all pedophiles give in to their sexual desires and engage in sexual activities with pre-pubertal children.

          Secondly, you do not have to be a pedopohile to perform rape or other sexual abuse on pre-pubertal children, so a persons sexuality, even those which by some definitions could be considered a sickness, isn’t really the question regarding which person you should let near your children.

          Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed by the parents, so if there’s anyone which you shouldn’t let near children, because of who or what they are and the risk for them harming a child, it’s the parents.

        • OccamsKatana

           @flphpp:disqus   I have a hard time with the pedophilia thing. A real hard time with it. I suppose they do have their freedom to talk about it, but let me say, if some person were talking about my young daughter like that to me, I’d rip his face off. I guess that makes me the sicko. To have a sexual preference is one thing, to express it is another. To act on it, yet again, another….  Some ideas and freedoms are best kept in your head.

          Yes, we fight for freedom of speech. But does that freedom extend to making laws legalizing rape of children? Not in my world. Yes we fight for our freedom to be able to express ourselves without fear of retribution. But where does freedom of speech end and hate propaganda begin?

          I had a person express their freedom of speech to me one time when I was bouncing. He expressed that he was going to hunt me down and slit my children’s throats as they slept. I went pre-emptive on him. Protecting my family from a premeditated death threat or allowing him freedom of speech?

        • OccamsKatana

           @flphpp:disqus   Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed
          by the parents, so if there’s anyone which you shouldn’t let near
          children, because of who or what they are and the risk for them harming a
          child, it’s the parents.

          That statement is flawed. You are discounting the fact that the abusing parents would be pedophiles themselves, and therefore, more pedophiles abuse children than parents do. Statistically (please provide facts) most parents do not abuse their children sexually. Statistically, more pedophiles abuse children whether they are parents of the child, or not.

          Look up the definition of PREMEDITATED. When a pedophile plans out a sexual assault, it is a crime. If they talk about it, it’s a crime. Pedophiles are arrested for luring children, whether they have sexually assaulted them or not. Pedophilia is a disease. Sexually assaulting a child IS A CRIME!

          Here is some reading for you:

          http://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/1721-luring-child

        • Fredrika

          > “That statement is flawed.”

          It is 100% correct exactly as it is written. If there’s any flaw present, it’s in your ability to properly read it.

          > “You are discounting the fact that the abusing parents would be pedophiles themselves, and therefore, more pedophiles abuse children than parents do.

          Where am i talking about pedophiles in that sentence? I’m talking about abuse, regardless of what kind, and which party that statistically performs the majority of it.

          > “Statistically (please provide facts) most parents do not abuse their children sexually.”

          Nor have i ever claimed that they do?

          > “Statistically, more pedophiles abuse children whether they are parents of the child, or not.”

          No, the majority of the abuse of children in the world is carried out by normal persons, usually the parents, not the extremely small minority of pedophiles that act on their sexuality.

          > “Look up the definition of PREMEDITATED. When a pedophile plans out a sexual assault, it is a crime.”

          Have a i said that planning a crime isn’t a crime? No i have not.

          > “If they talk about it, it’s a crime.”

          Have i said that talking about planning out a crime isn’t a crime? No i have not.

          > “Pedophiles are arrested for luring children, whether they have sexually assaulted them or not.”

          I have not commented on whether or not people are arrested for luring children. Having a sexuality, such as being a pedophile, is not the same thing as luring children.

          > “Pedophilia is a disease.”

          Which has no relevance whatsoever to this discussion.

          > “Sexually assaulting a child IS A CRIME!”

          Which i have never denied.

          > “Here is some reading for you:”

          Nothing in that text has any relevance whatsoever to any of my previous statements.

        • OccamsKatana

           @flphpp:disqus  The whole basis of your argument is PRO-pedophilic freedoms.

          Nice try at twisting things around again, I won’t go over the entire conversation again but:

          Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed
          by the parents, so if there’s anyone which you shouldn’t let near
          children, because of who or what they are and the risk for them harming a
          child, it’s the parents

          > “Pedophilia is a disease.”

          Which has no relevance whatsoever to this discussion.
          It has EVERY relevance to this discussion. Your words:
          Are you another one of those ignorant idiots who can’t tell apart the sexual orientation of pedophelia from the act of rape or sexual child abuse? 
          You infer that there is a difference between the mental affliction of pedophilia and the act of child sexual abuse. Is pedophilia a mental affliction or is it not? Is pedophilia considered a disease of the mind or not??

          And Fredrika, a parent that DOES sexual abuse their child IS a pedophile. Do you understand that, they are not different, they are one and the same. Any person that has a sexual attraction to a child IS a pedophile. Anyone that acts on it IS a criminal.

          Nice job twisting words.  Reread your argument. Reread your quip about parents abusing. Your inference is totally biased and when someone calls you on it, you twist it.

          You’re advocating pedophilia.  Your choice.

          I hope you don’t have children.  

          And statistically, please provide facts.
          All else is bullshit.

        • Fredrika

          > “The whole basis of your argument is PRO-pedophilic freedoms.”

          What?

          > “You infer that there is a difference between the mental affliction of pedophilia and the act of child sexual abuse.”
          There is obviously a difference between having a sexuality in one’s mind, and performing an act on someone else. Do you not see this?

          > “Is pedophilia a mental affliction or is it not?”

          The answer to that question is completely irrelevant because having a mental affliction or a sexuality does not equal performing acts on someone else.

          > “Is pedophilia considered a disease of the mind or not??”

          Again irrelevant because having a decease of the mind does not equal performing acts on anyone else.

          > “And Fredrika, a parent that DOES sexual abuse their child IS a pedophile.”

          No he does not have to be. It’s fully possible for a parent with a normal sexuality as heterosexuality to perform sexual abuse on their children.

          > “Do you understand that, they are not different, they are one and the same.”

          A persons sexual orientation is not the same thing as an act. Do you not understand that?

          > “Any person that has a sexual attraction to a child IS a pedophile.”

          Which i have not denied.

          > “Anyone that acts on it IS a criminal.”

          Which i have not denied. However, having a sexual attraction is not the same thing as acting on it, and the crime in question is a crime regardless of any sexual attraction.

          > “Nice job twisting words.  Reread your argument. Reread your quip about parents abusing. Your inference is totally biased and when someone calls you on it, you twist it.”

          I’m not twisting any words? I meant every single word i wrote exactly as it was written. The only one here who seems to be twisting words it you, because you have on several occasions responded to things which i have not written.

          > “You’re advocating pedophilia.  Your choice.”

          I have not advocated any kind of sexual orientation, nor any act. Please quote which specific sentence that you interpreted in that surreal manner, and i will help you read it properly.

          > “And statistically, please provide facts.”

          Over what?

        • OccamsKatana

            @flphpp:disqus     Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed
          by the parents, so if there’s anyone which you shouldn’t let near
          children, because of who or what they are and the risk for them harming a
          child, it’s the parents.


          Lets go over this again. Not only is your statement grammatically incorrect, but it is also factually incorrect. Please provide the statistics to validate your faulty opinion. Otherwise we can assume that parents that abuse children are, by definition Pedophiles. THEREFORE more pedophiles abuse children than do parents. Most parents DO NOT sexually abuse their children. So once again, we need to protect our children from pedophiles, whether those pedophiles are parents or not.

          Twist THAT!

        • Fredrika

          > “Lets go over this again. Not only is your statement grammatically incorrect, but it is also factually incorrect.”

          It is factually 100% correct. The majority of all abuse of children in the world is done by the parents, not children’s friends, relatives, neighbours, their teachers, grandparents or unrelated persons.

          > “Otherwise we can assume that parents that abuse children are, by definition Pedophiles.”

          Why in gods name should we assume something so stupid?

          > “THEREFORE more pedophiles abuse children than do parents.”

          Among 100 persons maybe 2 or 3 is a pedophile, while 50 or more are parents. Among 100 pedophiles maybe 1 or 2 perform sexual abuse on children. Among those 50 initial parents maybe 5 or ten abuse their children in some way. There are therefore more abusive parents that there even are pedophiles in the first place.

          > “Most parents DO NOT sexually abuse their children.”

          I have never commented on how many parents that sexually abuse their children?

          > “So once again, we need to protect our children from pedophiles, whether those pedophiles are parents or not. Twist THAT!”

          In reality we need to protect children from abuse, regardless of which party that performs it, and since statistically the majority of all abuse of children is performed by the parents, it’s the parents that children needs statistically the most protection from, not the minority of the population that has the sexual orientation of pedophelia, which does not equal acting or harming children.

        • OccamsKatana

           @flphpp:disqus

          Ok, I am going to go over the whole flawed fucking mess.

          > “That statement is flawed.”

          It is 100% correct exactly as it is written. If there’s any flaw present, it’s in your ability to properly read it.

          > “You are discounting the fact that the abusing parents would
          be pedophiles themselves, and therefore, more pedophiles abuse children
          than parents do.

          Where am i talking about pedophiles in that sentence? I’m talking
          about abuse, regardless of what kind, and which party that statistically
          performs the majority of it. The WHOLE DAMN SUBJECT IS PEDOPHILIA. You don’t need to say the word in that sentence, the whole subject is it.

          > “Statistically (please provide facts) most parents do not abuse their children sexually.”

          Nor have i ever claimed that they do? let me refresh your memory: Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed
          by the parents,

          > “Statistically, more pedophiles abuse children whether they are parents of the child, or not.”

          No, the majority of the abuse of children in the world is carried out
          by normal persons, usually the parents, not the extremely small
          minority of pedophiles that act on their sexuality. now your blatant stupidity is really shining through. NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT ABUSE CHILDREN. PEDOPHILES ABUSE CHILDREN. Normal people do not abuse anyone. Normal = pertaining to the norm, or general concensus, conformance to the majority. Majority of people are not pedophiles, therefore, pedophilia is not normal.

          > “Look up the definition of PREMEDITATED. When a pedophile plans out a sexual assault, it is a crime.”

          Have a i said that planning a crime isn’t a crime? No i have not.

          > “If they talk about it, it’s a crime.”

          Have i said that talking about planning out a crime isn’t a crime? No i have not. have you not inferred as much? Maybe not in so many words, but now you’re twisting again.

          > “Pedophiles are arrested for luring children, whether they have sexually assaulted them or not.”

          I have not commented on whether or not people are arrested for luring children. Having a sexuality, such as being a pedophile, is not the same thing as luring children. so when i expand on your statements, I am wrong? Or am I only to rebut the single words you use? I prefer expanding…

          > “Pedophilia is a disease.”

          Which has no relevance whatsoever to this discussion. It has EVERY relevance to this discussion.

          > “Sexually assaulting a child IS A CRIME!”

          Which i have never denied. again, my expanding on your statements.

          > “Here is some reading for you:”

          Nothing in that text has any relevance whatsoever to any of my previous statements. that text is very relevant to all your statements as it also shows how one does not have to sexually assault a minor to be charged……  to which you have said is totally legal.  Your words:  If so you should be aware of the fact that no civilized democratic country have similar laws. But I have, in fact, pointed out that there are such laws in a civilized country. Give it up Fredrika. Your argument is fucked beyond belief. You can twist this shit all you want, and I can quote you until the cows come home. It won’t change the fact that you’re a shitty spin doctor. For the record, I was following you, but with this last bunch of nonsense, I have lost all respect and have taken you off my follow list.

        • OccamsKatana

          @flphpp:disqus

          Backpeddle all you like. I’m not going through this AGAIN Fredrika. I’ve quoted you, responded, showed you your errors.

          A rapist is a person that rapes. A Pedophile is a person sexually attracted to children. If A “NORMAL” (in your words) parent has sex with a child, they ARE A PEDOPHILE.  

          pe·do·phile? ?[pee-duh-fahyl] Show IPA
          noun Psychiatry . an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

          Your words: Secondly, you do not have to be a pedopohile to perform rape or other
          sexual abuse on pre-pubertal children, so a persons sexuality, even
          those which by some definitions could be considered a sickness, isn’t really the question regarding which person you should let near your children.          Can you see above where you mention sickness, ie a disease of the mind?? Can you also see the definition of a pedophile, which I have provided for you?You talk about a person’s sexuality in one sentence and then say that raping a child is not pedophilia.And when i ask you to provide the statistics you quote, it shouldn’t be hard to provide said statistics if they exist. If you can’t, then they are made up, as in fiction, as in NOT FACT. AS IN GARBAGE, AS IN BULLSHIT.Nice fucking try.

        • Fredrika

            > “The WHOLE DAMN SUBJECT IS PEDOPHILIA.”

          Your personal opinion on what the topic is irrelevant to what i actually responded to and wrote. I did not write about pedophiles in that sentence.

          > “let me refresh your memory: Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed by the parents,”

          Correct, and i’m not taking about sexual abuse in that sentence. I’m talking about abuse, which is what children needs to be protected from, regardless of what kind of abuse it is.

          > “now your blatant stupidity is really shining through.”

          No, but your inability to read.

          > “NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT ABUSE CHILDREN.”

          They most certainly do.

          > “PEDOPHILES ABUSE CHILDREN.”

          No, pedophiles are sexually attracted to children. Being sexually attracted to children does not equal acting on one’s sexuality and actually harming children. Again you are confusing pedophiles with persons who abuse children sexually. The latter does not have to be a pedohile, although most likely they are.

          > “Normal people do not abuse anyone.”

          Yes they do.

          > “Majority of people are not pedophiles..”

          What percentage of the population that is pedophiles is irrelevant to the fact that the large majority of all parents abuse their children, in one way or another, and therefore children statistically needs protection from their parents the most.

          > “..therefore, pedophilia is not normal.”

          I have never claimed that pedophelia is normal.

          > “have you not inferred as much? Maybe not in so many words, but now you’re twisting again.”

          Your inability to properly read what is written does not equal that someone else is twisting words.

          > “so when i expand on your statements, I am wrong? Or am I only to rebut the single words you use? I prefer expanding…”

          I don’t care what you prefer, it does not change the fact that i have not commented on whether or not people are arrested for luring children, or the fact that having a sexuality, such as being a pedophile, is not the same thing as luring children.
           
          > “It has EVERY relevance to this discussion.”

          In what way is it relevant that pedophelia could be considered a disease?

          > “that text is very relevant to all your statements as it also shows how one does not have to sexually assault a minor to be charged……

          Which i have never denied.

          > “to which you have said is totally legal.”

          No, i said being a pedophile is legal. The text you referred to did not say otherwise. It said certain –> acts <– are illegal. Being a pedophile, heterosexual or homosexual is not an act.

          > “Your words:  If so you should be aware of the fact that no civilized democratic country have similar laws. But I have, in fact, pointed out that there are such laws in a civilized country.”

          No you have not. My claim was about simply having a sexual orientation. Your text referred to other acts than simply having a sexual orientation, which isn’t an act in the first place.

          > “You can twist this shit all you want, and I can quote you until the cows come home.”

          I’m not twisting anything, you’re the one that’s twisting everything, continuously commenting on things which i have never written, reading words into sentences that aren’t there, which completely changes the meaning of them.

          > “A rapist is a person that rapes. A Pedophile is a person sexually attracted to children. If A “NORMAL” (in your words) parent has sex with a child, they ARE A PEDOPHILE.”

          No. Having sex with a child is not the same thing as being a pedophile. It’s fully possible for a non-pedophile to rape a child, in the same way as it is fully possible for a homosexual man to rape a woman.

          > “pe·do·phile? ?[pee-duh-fahyl] Show IPA noun Psychiatry . an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.”

          I have never denied that someone that’s sexually attracted to children is a pedophile.

          > “Can you see above where you mention sickness, ie a disease of the mind?? Can you also see the definition of a pedophile, which I have provided for you?”

          Yes.

          > “You talk about a person’s sexuality in one sentence and then say that raping a child is not pedophilia.”

          Correct, raping is an act. Having a sexual orientation is not an act. It’s a preference.

          > “And when i ask you to provide the statistics you quote, it shouldn’t be hard to provide said statistics if they exist.”

          I have not quoted any statistics, but when i asked you of what you wanted statistics for i received no answer.

          > “If you can’t, then they are made up, as in fiction, as in NOT FACT. AS IN GARBAGE, AS IN BULLSHIT.Nice fucking try.”

          Most certainly not. One’s ability to provide statistics have no relevance to whether or not a claim is correct or not. Either the claim is factual or not, whether or not someone can provide statistics to prove does not change the facts.

        • Cbimahyk

           @Fredrika: Look how you jumped to a conclusion already and calling me an ignorant idiot.

          Well, it’s pretty obvious you don’t have kids or you wouldn’t talk so CASUAL and EASY about pedos. Like they’re doing nothing wrong and it’s A-OK and people should be chill about it.

          Those who do have kids tho (like me), would like to bash their faces in because we know the freaks that they are.

          Anyway, I read through all (yeah all of them) your looooong and pointless drivel of trying to turn black into white.

          You’re wrong at ALL levels.

          You sir, are a royal MORON.

          Have a nice day and fuck you very much.

        • Fredrika

          > “Look how you jumped to a conclusion already and calling me an ignorant idiot.

          I did not call you anything? And jump to a conclusion i certainly did not, but the claim i put forward in my comment to you still stands. Nowhere in the world, unless possibly Iran, are people being arrested and sentenced simply for having a sexual orientation, as in being a pedophile. They are arrested and sentenced for other things as in performing acts.

          > “Well, it’s pretty obvious you don’t have kids or you wouldn’t talk so CASUAL and EASY about pedos.”

          Since people aren’t a problem simply because of their sexual preference, why should anyone sane have problems talking easy and casually about them? Not everyone becomes stupid or irrational just because they have children you know. so don’t assume others share your inabilities, just because they have kids, because they don’t.

          > “Like they’re doing nothing wrong and it’s A-OK and people should be chill about it.”

          Pedophiles aren’t doing anything at all, that’s the whole point. Having a sexuality doesn’t equal doing things, especially to other persons, or children. So i was right then? You are incapable of keeping a pedohile apart from a person who sexually abuses a child? Then you are an ignorant idiot.

          > “Those who do have kids tho (like me), would like to bash their faces in because we know the freaks that they are.”

          Well, sick people who are drawn to committing violence to others will always try to justify their despicable actions.

          > “You’re wrong at ALL levels.”

          I dare you to point out in what particular claim of the ones i actually put forward i was wrong, and i will help you understand why what i actually wrote indeed is right, exactly as it was written.

        • Why

           can’t believe some one is actually trying to defend pedophilia as a “sexual preference” thing. what’s next, necrophilia? erotophonophilia?

          “why should anyone catch pedophiles?”….I’m guessing that A)You are still very young B)You have no children of your own or C)your a pedophile yourself.

          I like to see you have that same stance when you have a child of your own. Then again, maybe you would like to have a 40 year old male stalking your 10 year old daughter around, waiting for the chance to approach her.

          to you I guess it’s alright for them to look, but not touch. after all, no harm no foul, eh?…but when they do touch*and they will*, that child is as good as dead. :) the world you want to live in, isn’t the one I want to live in Fredrika.

        • OccamsKatana

           @flphpp:disqus

          One last time:

          > “And when i ask you to provide the statistics you quote, it shouldn’t be hard to provide said statistics if they exist.”

          I have not quoted any statistics, but when i asked you of what you wanted statistics for i received no answer.

          YOUR WORDS:

          Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed
          by the parents, so if there’s anyone which you shouldn’t let near
          children, because of who or what they are and the risk for them harming a
          child, it’s the parents.

          Statistically means ACCORDING TO STATISTICS. I’ve repeatedly asked you to provide such statistics, and if you can’t then it’s a fantasy, made up facts, lies, BULLSHIT, Don’t you understand THAT???????? Provide the damn statistics or shut the fuck up! You spew garbage Fredrika. You don’t make sense then you backpeddle and twist shit, confusing the whole matter.

          sta·tis·tics? ?[stuh-tis-tiks] Show IPA
          noun 1. ( used with a singular verb ) the science that deals with the collection, classification, analysis, and interpretation of numerical facts or data, and that, by use of mathematical theories of probability, imposes order and regularity on aggregates of more or less disparate elements. 2. ( used with a plural verb ) the numerical facts or data themselves.

        • PenzancePeer

          Nice go Blokes, you’ve filled the first block of comment on a PedantFest about KiddieFiddlers :)

          No doubt valid points are being made, but many will view this as Pro Pedo thinking ?  Could be a whole new, and more productive Angle for the IP Trolls who usually spout much ordeur here ?  :) 

        • Whatever

          At Frederika

          You can’t win with ANY arguments from the zealeous, believers or the ones that by hearing/seeing a word they don’t like enter agression mode and shut off their mind to anything else around those words.

          You might have tried using some examples like that “hitting children is also abuse” or the behaviour in prison. However i doubt i would have worked.

          The same applies to the subject of racism where it is confused with religion or country. Actually had a discussion where the other person kept saying that having something against a country or religion equals racism (as some politician is often called a racist). Even discriminating women was mentioned as racism.
          It was impossible to get this person to see any distinction.

          So again, the conclusion is, unfortunetally, that you won’t/can’t win this.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @OccamsKatana

          “That statement is flawed. You are discounting the fact that the abusing parents would be pedophiles themselves…”

          According to your arguments, sexual abuse in prison would be the result of the biggest and baddest convicts on the block all being homosexuals.

          That is not so.

          Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, as is being heterosexual or homosexual. It’s just that the target of affection is completely unacceptable. From what I’ve read even most pedophiles realize this.

          Rape, however, often has very little to do with actual sexual attraction. It’s more often than not simply an act of sadism, and violent dominance. Hence no, abusing parents don’t actually have to be “pedophiles”. They just have to be sadists bent on preserving or establishing absolute authority. Just like some violent convicts in prison.

          A pedophile in him/herself is fully allowed to have their sexual orientation. They are not and can never be free to actively pursue it. There is a big difference between what someone may feel and how someone may act. If there weren’t, freedom of opinion is dead.

  • http://twitter.com/ArmEagle ArmEagle

    Oh please, there’s statistics and damned lies. And that graph of Pirateparty member count falls under the latter. In this case it is completely unwarranted to not have the vertical axis started at 0. This is not TorrentFreak, or PirateParty worthy.

    • Anon

      And since the authorities are monitoring the servers, this just adds to their individual user surveillance list. :-)
      Good. 

      • chronoss chiron

        gee why would you get attention at PRQ? 

        MAYBE THE CHILD MOLESTATION ADVOCACY GROUP THERE?
        GEE you sickos need to smarten up…..

        • Guest

          I have a question. Is it possible that you have some kind of mental disorder? The public seems not to be the right place for you,

        • CraftyZan101_1

           You talk about it quite a bit.  *scratches head*  Makes me wonder.

        • chronoss chiron

          no is it possible i run a hacker organization that has some kids in it and don’t like anyone abusing children , i actually am in favor of filesharing and freedom of speech , when you advocate raping children that cant fend for themselves it is not free speech its RAPE and child molestation.

          ANYONE saying any differant has the mental disorder and i’ll add go host there and dont blame hackers when we rip you a new arsehole…

          supporting it and hte founders of the tpb are your undoing.
          YOU can’t say you do no harm when you give voice to that which does.

        • Anyone

          @google-8deb2585acdb8455ed06c714b2a17316:disqus
          talking about child molestation does not cause a child to be molested

          why are you so against freedom of speech?

      • CraftyZan101_1

         Clog them tubes.

  • Fdsfsdf

    3rd.

  • Anonymous

    regardless of how big the surge is in PP membership, it isn’t anywhere big enough. until there are sufficient members leading to more seats voted for the PP, the entertainment industries and govts will think this is nothing more than a fad, a trend which will die a death allowing politics to continue as it has for decades with the same bought and paid for politicians living the high life off the backs of rich corporations and the associated execs whilst fucking up life for almost all ordinary citizens, the very people they are actually supposed to be representing!

  • Pianogamer

    The spike was good, but not how it was steadily declining before…

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  • foff

    I noticed since I was critical about the robustness of the Pirate Bay that it is back up today. I hope this serves as a warning to all sites affected that they need to harden themselves and be prepared so they are not caught with their pants down so to speak.

    As to the true targets here I wonder what in the hell they expected to find.  It seems like there is a disturbing trend here when it comes to copyright issues.  With other crimes cops have to get warrants and have proper evidence but with copyright it seems they can come in with guns blazing and go on fishing expeditions like the megaupload case and in this instance they can just go in pull plugs and disrupt all kinds things that are not even related.  Why when comes to this type of thing can cops just spray bullets into a crowd in an attempt to hit a target.  This is not just a piracy issue it is a human rights issue.  It is critical that with alleged cyber crimes some clear boundaries need to be set.  The excuse that someone might erase data should not be given carte blanche.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ahofsten Anders Hofsten

      i agree. not only that, but the scale of punishment is incredibly ridiculous; you can steal an album at gunpoint and get a lower punishment than to “steal” it (read, make a copy, which is not stealing at all) over the internet. i guess this is because they see all downloaded copies as lost customers who would have bought it otherwise, instead of seeing that as potential customers, which might buy it after listening to it/seeing it/using it/, as well as show their friends and talk about it.

      besides, who amongst you still have a cdplayer? i certainly don’t, but if a buy a cd i’m not allowed to rip it and put it on my mp3 player, but instead i have to buy it again in a digital distribution form. no wonder people are resisting.

      • Dingleblip

        @facebook-100001351711145:disqus ”besides, who amongst you still have a cdplayer? i certainly don’t, but if a buy a cd i’m not allowed to rip it and put it on my mp3 player”
        Just out of interest, if you don’t have any form of CD playing device, how on earth do you rip them to mp3 anyway? ;)

  • John Doe

    Move the servers to Iceland !!!
    The new bastion of freedom, the only country that saved the people not the banks.

  • Pirate

    I’m not sure what to make of the attention the Pirate Bay attracts to file-sharing. What do you guys think of them. Positive or negative?

    • CraftyZan101_1

       They are the most resilient site I’ve seen.  They’ve had a bullseye on their asses for nine years but only stay down a few weeks max.  It’s like they’ve got server farms all over the planet and no single person knows where they all are.

    • LinuxCoder

      As a crusty old pirate, I can attest to the fact that The Pirate Bay has a terrific selection and, over the years, has cleaned up its act very well by getting rid of torrents which have infected content. Also, and this is equally as important, their “community” has become much more cohesive and fake torrents are spotted and flagged as such much more quickly. In short, they just get better and better.  I used to avoid them due to infected torrents, but not now.

  • chronoss chiron

    i call bullshit your hosting on servers that have advocacy and child pron ….anyone there deserves what they get and absolutely no pirate with any morals is gonna say otherwise NOR is any hacker gonna support you….

    TPB does none of any good when they the owners setup PRQ and allow sick minded people voice like a child molestsation group….and dont ask for proof its nearly illegal to even post links to such shit and be forewarned …..

    • Voice of Reason

       Another term for “nearly illegal” is “legal”

      Your obsession with child pornography is the only sickness I see here.  It’s all you ever talk about.

      • Why

        I think they guy has some serious mental issues. he’s probably a hardcore pedo and after seeing someone early defend his “infatuation”. he’s trying to help sway people in to joining him while he ditties some little kiddies dibits.

        pedophilia is wrong, no matter how you look at it. it will never be legal and will never “catch on”. I guess chronoss, you should look up statistics of child rape murder in your country/province/state. because, 9/10 times, after a pedo is done with their victims, they murder them. you want the people to be able to freely flaunt this around, protected under some kind of warped sense of freedom?

        note to self, stop looking at these comments…*sigh* what happen to torrent freak..

    • chronoss chiron

      ya and in 1970 it was legal to screw 5 year olds in sweden and thus was legal……does that make it right as you advocate this site is? BOY i love to hear about child molestation while i downlaod some music NOT…..his support of it was the begginning of the end for TPB. YOU can’t advocate you do no harm when you give voice to that which does. Don’t blame us hackers when we start using PRQ as target practice and i doubt hollywood or feds will even bother to care cause your the ones that need mental help. 

      WHAT was those founders thinking that this is GOOD ? HEY why not add some nazi websites and some jew oven burning howto sites and while were at it lets just add some construction manuals for atomic weapons and …..ya free speech has the one limit of it should not do harm….ITS freedom of speech to have an opinion BUT when you advocate harming others by your actions its not about freedom its about trying to justify an action(s) that MASSIVE swaths of earth will never agree with you…

      if your so ok with it host a mirror on your home server see what happens….

      • Anyone

        where did you read that PRQ supports the views of the sites they host?
        they simply host the site as long as it is legal in Sweden, no questions asked

        freedom of speech should have no limit, you should be allowed to say anything you damn well please (such as your silly spam rants on this site)

        • lattari

          Could you people please stop flagging comments that you don’t like. First of all, its ridiculous for people who claim to be defendants of free speech to do that, and secondly, its annoying to read threads when the opening comment is removed.

        • Dingleblip

          @lattari:disqus I second that sentiment. As a PP member I believe in freedom of information. The only comments that people should flag are the obvious spam posts. Let the trolls be hanged by their own petard. They’re generally completely picked apart by anyone with a higher cell count than an amoeba.

      • Guest

        Looks like you are TorrentFreaks next “most  stupidiest troll”. I’ve never read so much nonsense in a rather short text like that.

      • Guest

        People who read such material must then make their own judgment and their actions will be held to account. Freedom of speech is about not restricting the flow of information and knowledge, be it opinions, ideas or sick people with sick obsessions. Again, those that take it beyond talking about it have to face the consequences of their actions.

        Nobody wants children to be harmed. What you are suggesting though is not possible. Where do you draw the line. It’s freedom of speech or no freedom of speech. 

  • chronoss chiron

    newsflash 1200 perverts join the porate party to ensure they can keep hosting there child molestarion advocacy group on PRQ hosted by the founders of TPB 
    TOLD ya the pirate party is  a shame….

    • Dark

      Like many others have said, get a brain. The ACT of paedophilia and POSSESSION of child pornography is illegal, not the DISCUSSION of those subjects. They’re sensitive subjects, sure, but participation in discussions pertaining to them does not make one a paedophile.

      • Shatterthisb

        discussing those topics DOES make one a pedophile you idiot.

        • Guest

          Depends on the content of the discussion; or are you saying that talking about crime states in relation to pedophilia makes me a pedophile?

          Really should learn not to jump the gun and make assumptions about others; it makes an ASS out of U and ME.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Really. So if I claim that appreciating an image of a fully clothed 17-year old isn’t child pornography (which it can be under Swedish law) isn’t being a “pedophile”, that automatically makes me one?

          Thank you for your input. I truly hope you were being sarcastic.

      • LinuxCoder

        This is not a forum for sexually-warped psychopaths…. can we stick to the topic please?

      • Rew

         sorry but its legal in most countries, its seems you have been brainwashed. do a google search “c p is legal in most countries ” with child and porn in the search and not cp and you will see. Why do you fail at doing research before you speak?

      • TheTapsa

         Seriously shocked that that kind of FYI is even needed on a news site with this high interest in free speech. Some people seem to be unable to extend same ideas outside technology. We are discussing here how flawed the old point of view that monetary approach is good for everything is and yet supposedly we shouldn’t even discuss wether pedophilia is illegal or not. Even when the case is so simple (to me) as to think wether it is illegal to like for example do street races need for speed style. Sure you’d like it but you don’t because it is reckless and illegal. Tho it would be better to discuss such things somewhere else and stay in topic.

        And now I’m shamed how I just had to join the offtopic. Some offtopicphilia I have.

    • FrackTheDumb

       Newsflash, dumb-fuck! Shell, Mobile, Chevron, Texaco, Mc Donalds, Burger King, Arby’s, Kroger, Vons, Honda, Ford, Home Depot, Bed Bath & Beyond, 7-11, Hardy’s, Denny’s, IHOP and countless other places have hired pedophiles and you more than likely support them in one way or another. Where’s your soap box to stand on at those places? Why don’t you do some sex offender research in your local community instead of trolling a news forum. Although i doubt your smart enough to know how since you can only parrot the same shit like the good little sheeple you are.

      • chronoss chiron

        were talking here pal about your glorious isp hoster and founder of TPB , he had an oppurtunity to say ya i dont like perverts either but instead he stood up and said “free speech” go on host a mirror of that site off your own computer see what happens to you….

        you want to be so free speech go on do so….when you get hacked or arrested let me know how that goes for ya…

        • Anyone

          they did say that they don’t agree with their views, but will host them anyway because of freedom of speech

          you should really stop with your obsession and seek professional help

        • Guest

          Thank you for the demonstration of what you really are: An enemy of the humanity. An enemy of the free world. Maybe you should consider to emigrate into a country called North Korea? Wait a minute. An alternative would be to work for your corrupt government?

          PS: Hacking under certain circumstances is illegal by the way. Looks like you are the only criminal in this case?

          “president of the united hackers association and a person that has a lot of kids and ”

        • Guest

          They are not obliged to justify themselves. Free speech is free speech and there is no need to apologize if you are supporting it. This isn’t America or more specific Jesusland.

        • Guest

          They have principles you moron. They advocate free speech. They can’t then go and say to someone we don’t want to host you because of the subject matter. 

          PLEASE STOP THINKING ABOUT ABUSING CHILDREN. You might end up thinking it’s OK and join in on their discussions.

    • chronoss chiron

      right talking about it and the ills it entails and advocating FOR DOING IT are two different things….its akin to saying look we want everyone to know we believe in rape joy oh joy try it its fun ….YOUR sick , they are sick and you aren’t gonna have this issue go away. HE should have never hosted that site unless of course he is ok with it….and its a child molestation website , behind that is a ton os sickness that we could nuke and earth would be a better place.

      • GN

        Can you please learn English.. You’re and your don’t mean the same thing.

      • Guest

        You are a ridiculous fool. You have obviously no damn clue about all the things you are talking about.

        “…everyone to know we believe in rape”

        It looks like your definition of a pedofile equals to the definition of a rapist. You sir are the undeducated and plain stupid fool in this case.

        • lattari

          And whoever is flagging his comments is a massive hypocrite.

          Free speech my ass.

          You’re free to agree with me.

    • The_seventh_guest

      You mean those same perverts in politics that like sex slaves and children for their sexual pleasure while traveling aboard?

      People asking for those kind of services ARE criminals, notpeople downloading songs!

  • JimBob

    So much trolling going on in these comments, it’s almost like we’re under a bridge.

    • Guest

      Why aren’t you able to point right to the one and only involved troll? It’s chronoss chiron and no one else.

      • Pelham123

        “chronoss chiron” is Swedish for “noob troll”. Seriously.

        dont ask for proof its nearly illegal to even post links to such shit and be forewarned

        • CL

          Not entirely sure he is a Swede, Teenage Swedes can usually speak and write English better than an embarrassing number of American teens / young adults.

      • chronoss chiron

        president of the united hackers association and a person that has a lot of kids and youth in his organization is against child molesters GEEE what a shocker eh …..i’ll say it host with PRQ and your target practice now…

        and does tpb founders hosting a child molestation advocacy website and other pervert sites do you all any good? DOES it make you sound like great upstanding people….
        I am from canada , have 3000 members or so world wide.
        YOU can’t host a site like this in canada its against the law because it advocates harm…try it….see what happens to you.

        • Guest

          You are plain stupid and you are demonstrating your stupidity in all of your posts and that is not an offence against you. It’s just a fact.

          You aren’t very bright. It seems like you are just able to differentiate between black and white and that is not was a human beeing is supposed to be only able to to.

          Let me demonstrate your stupidity with an example. You are basically saying the following: “All who construct blueprints for knifes to be manifactured advocate the crime of murder”. Well, yeah. You aren’t very bright, aren’t you?

          A pedo isn’t automatically a child molester and he will never be a child molester untill he or she commits a crime called rape. By the way. The definition of rape varies from country to country. It’s complicated, eh?

          I thought the USA is only country with an huge amount of small-minded people, but it looks like it is true for entire North America.

    • 321…0

      YEAP but they foget something – hackers pirates WILL BE ALWAYS with a step forward , will be always much smart then those parasites call trolls corporations , fat stupid USA riches , money cant buy freedom ! PIRATE ALWAYS EXIST AND WILL SURVIVE AS LONG HUMANS WILL SURVIVE , AS LONG INJUSTICE AND NO REAL FREEDOM WILL EXIST !
      PIRACY it is a response to all fat stupid fuckers (tax evasioners call riches) who think they can have it all ,who think they have power ,who think can enslave foolish and manipulate all peoples ,who think they can do everything they want
      Actual laws everywhere on the globe are to lie , foolish people and keep them under riches control – they know very well those words – money – bribe – laws-power = more money more slaves more money and so on

      USA , you are too “good” , too “amaizing” , too “smart” , too “slim” (LOL) for this world ! please leave us and go in haven , billions people can helping you to make this trip VERY FAST

  • Guest

    hmm that reminds me.. I need to sign off xd

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Everything these Corporations do riles up the hornets nest. 

    Six Strikes Notices.  Fifty sites impounded.  MegaUpload the victim of illegal Intelligence agency spying.  The Pirates Bay is blocked….unblocked….blocked yet again…..Demonoid turned into another Mega…..on and on…….

    There’s much more of this to go…….much more poking into the hornet’s nest…..

    Do Copyright Distributors ultimately stop filesharing?  Nope. 

    Instead they get more citizens asking, “What’s are these monopolies trying to do to us?” ……….. “What is the public domain?  Were Copyright meant to be a perpetuity?” ……. “Who the hell do these ISPs think they are!!”……. “What do you mean I can’t appeal?”……. “Fuck Arbitration!  Where’s my right to Appeal?”….. “Are you kidding me?  Are you telling me that I, as an American Citizen, have no right to Appeal the imposition of  TOSs by Six Monopoly ISPs colluding against substantially all Americans?……Just one question then, “What American Legislature….What American Senator or Congressman….What American President……passed a law allowing these ISPs to substitue their TOSs for our constitutional rights to Due Process?” ……”Was there a Constitutional Plebecite?”…….”What law granted them Immunity?”
     
    These are not the questions Copyright Distributors want asked or answered. 

    The Pirate Parties, on the other hand, can and will ask and answer these questions. 

    It’s happening.  Just very slowly.  Our message to every citizen of the world  must be, “Abandon the established Parties.  All of them!  See the laws they produce.  Get ye to the Pirate Parties!!.” 

    • shaman

      i can add “freedom” “human rights”"privacy” and all international laws – all are just lies to foolsih and enslave people ! FOGET ABOUT ALL OF THEM , is no freedom , no real justice , no human rights – just money . owners of moneys makes the laws – the rules of this jungle but even those rules arent for everybody  JUST for mass people
      Want to do something for you ? Then fuck laws, fuck system call state/s bankers , job corporations worries about others stupid things , problem at jobs , monotony bored shit life – just stay one secound and think – you spend 90% of your life for others  not for you not to enjoy – do you have 9 lifes? think no … you all have only one life ….
      get your own life in your hands , do whats your consciousness telling you to do be nice be bad ,enjoy of fight but always do what you feel , tase life ,be free without regrets ,without no worries , keep in mind you all have just  – one life – it will not be easy , but will be a great experience and im shure you all will enjoy and see life in different way ,it will be a positive thing for you becouse will you discover and learn thousends great things , will enjoy more  , im sure after a while you all will be addictive to this fnomad life

  • The Strawbear Uk

    Gah, I wish you’d stop putting up misleading graphs. 

    To a casual glance (or an idiot), the chart there looks like the PP has had a increased of thousands of percent rather than the 18%-ish (off the top of my head) gain they’ve actually received.Presenting data in such self serving ways is one of the things MAAFIA et al get criticized for all the time. Do better. Be better.Otherwise an informative article and interesting story.

    • The_Strawbear

      Said it before and I’ll say it again, Disqus is a pile of shite.

      Gah, I wish you’d stop putting up misleading graphs. 

      To a casual glance (or an idiot), the chart there looks like the PP has had a increased of thousands of percent rather than the 18%-ish (off the top of my head) gain they’ve actually received.

      Presenting data in such self serving ways is one of the things MAAFIA et al get criticized for all the time. 

      Do better. Be better.

      Otherwise an informative article and interesting story.

      • fin

        I have to disagree, if anything my first reaction was why so low before the sites went down, when you take a second to review it you realize what its really communicating.i.e. it was x 1000 its now y 1000

        I would say not using 0 on the y axis helps communicate the idea and that at the end of the day is the point.

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  • chronoss chiron

    how many people live in sweden , ya lil like 1800 people wooooo and one has to ask how many of the pirate party in sweden also are favoring the hosting of child porn advicacy and other sites simular on PRQ?

    no really draw a line and have some damn morals ….you dont need be a religious nut to see this has bad PR written on it , so why in 2007 did he stand up for it….

    • Fredrika

      > “how many people live in sweden..”

      Is it your ignorance shining through?

      > “..and one has to ask how many of the pirate party in sweden also are favoring the hosting of child porn advicacy and other sites simular on PRQ?”

      Every single political party in Sweden stands behind people using their human right to free speech, regardless of what opinion they wish to put forward,
      and most likely every single political party in your country as well, unless you live in a dictatorship or fascist regime?

      > “no really draw a line and have some damn morals ….you dont need be a religious nut to see this has bad PR written on it , so why in 2007 did he stand up for it….”

      People stand up for free speech just because they have a decent, humane and admirable moral. Having a humane admirable moral is standing up for free speech specifically when it’s used to put forward opinions which one personally finds objectionable. Caving in and not fighting for free speech just because it’s bad PR, or because it’s used for things you personally find objectionable, that’s what’s could be considered immoral.

      Did you not know this? Maybe free speech and morals are subjects which
      are to hard for you to grasp? Or maybe you think that being against
      human rights is the same thing as having a decent moral? Because you do
      indeed seem to have a problem with them.

      PRQ is generally considered one of the planet’s most admirable hosting providers there is, just because they so firmly stand up for human rights as in free speech and the right to anonymity.

      The fact that you seem to be out on a personal crusade against PRQ, human rights and free speech says quite a lot about you and your moral.. or lack of it..

      • Anon

        shut up you cunt

        • ScrewEwe2

          Do the right thing laddy, and apologise to the wee young lass. Sayin’ that kind of shit is just plain fuckin’ rude, and only works well on motherinlaws and ex wifes. The way to a womans heart is with sweet tender words, pirated flowers and foreplay that last’s for hours and hours.

          this post in no way condones doing things with child prawns

        • Dingleblip

          @2f5b3fa26595bc45871213860db4668f:disqus Well thought out response. /SARCASM.
           Here, you can wear the troll hat for a while.

      • fredrika’s a tranny name

        Wow.Way off topic,Fredrika. Yr posts are too long winded for anyone to read.The quotes are really annoying also,and  yr comments make absolutely no sense.what the f___ are u even talking about?This is a site for file sharing,copyright,technology etc…shut up and go get on Foxnews.com or Huffington Post for yr weirdo trolling fetish.go there and trick yrself into feeling important.U just get off on being a troll.plz stop defending pedos

        • Sud U Like

          Maybe you need to read @flphpp:disqus ’s posts then. ‘She’ isn’t trolling, just responding to trolls. The only reason the posts are so far off topic is because of the off-topic posts being submitted by those trolls in the first place. Plus, if you read any of ‘her’ posts you’d quite plainly see there is no defence of paedophiles, just a defence of the right to free speech (not free action).

        • OccamsKatana

           Amen Brother!

        • OccamsKatana

           @92a6a2c7b5d00fe15bcaa7995a1feaa7:disqus   Another one of Fredrika’s fan base that has never posted on here before. I mean another one of Fredrika’s personalities. Get over yourself.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      In Sweden an 18 year old person taking a nude photo of his 17 year old girlfriend is actually guilty of child pornography today.

      Indeed, an image of a fully clothed 17 year old boy or girl can be child pornography according to swedish law.

      And you are wondering why people would DOUBT SUCH A LAW?

      First at least learn what pirates support and what they do not. So far, all you do is prove that you yourself don’t even know what you are railing against.

  • ScrewEwe2

    Well, at least I can get to TPB to continue my nearly illegal torrenting activities. If I get caught I’ll just say I thought it was sort of close to almost nearly but not quite illegal. I’ll refer them to my legal consultant chronoss chiron.

  • kwacker9r

    Chronoss chiron……………..Ever wondered why your phone never rings on a weekend ? Heres a clue ………foring buck !

  • Johannes Hooper

    Rapidgator is completely down now.

  • Johannes Hooper

    RIP Rapidgator 4/10/2012

    • foff

      Really I just went there and it is up and working fine.

      • Johannes Hooper

         Not working in Australia, but I can see it through hidemyass.

        • Anyone

          why are you using sellyourass?

        • Johannes Hooper

          Just used it as a proxy to check if there’s some kind of geo thing going on. Evidentally there is. Either something in the backbone is out, a mirror is down, or they’re geoblocking.

        • Anon

          Hide it from what ? The angry sheep you lot fuck by the dozen ??? amirite 

  • ScrewEwe2

    Wow, chronoss chiron sure seems 2b pissin’ a lot of people off tonight. Most of his posts are flagged for review. I always get here too late and miss all the fun.

    • OccamsKatana

      Ditto, and all this pedophile talk has my back up again!!!!

      • Nanotomics

        Can you not understand what is written in front of you or you just trolling?

        At no point has, Fredrika or anyone advocating the right to
        free speech, defended or condoned Paedophilia! 

        You can NOT be arrested for having a particular sexual
        preference, you can talk about it, it may offend and shock people, but unless
        you ACT on that sexual preference you cannot be arrested.

        A sexual preference is not the same as sexual abuse!  One happens inside the mind, the other has a physical
        dimension, how are they the same?

        Talking about a sexual preference is not the same as
        actually performing it; one does not necessarily lead to another, there is no
        rule of thumb here.  By that stretch of
        logic, you could be a murderer, as you have indicated you would harm, perhaps
        even kill anyone who touched your children.

        Kafka anyone?

        Furthermore, NOT all sexual abuse on children is committed
        by paedophiles!  In every country on this
        planet, the number one cause of sexual abuse on children is PARENTS! 

        Nowhere has Fredrika condoned, approved, defended, or
        supported paedophilia! In fact they have clearly stated the opposite, yet you
        refuse to see it! You remind me of the MacArthur years.

        Actually reading all those replies to Fredrika words; I now
        fully, without any fog what so ever, but with absolute clarity, understand why “Which
        Hunts” happen.

        Which brings us full circle to the argument at Hand.

        PIRACY, as in the Pirate Bay.

        Piracy is been persecuted worldwide with the exact same
        mindsets (toolsets) as you are displaying in your responses.  Can you not see that?

        Clouded by emotion and ignorance you are incapable of seeing
        the wood for the trees and therefore you leave yourself open to manipulation.

        It is not the Pirate Bay that is under attack, it is Freedom
        of Speech; it is under attack by the powerful by way of the ignorant.

        It seems you do not understand this, yet we all tolerate you
        rants, right? I mean you have insulted Fredrika numerous times in your replies
        and have indicated some very dark emotions and quite a bit of aggression.  Yet no one has asked for your removal or beheading,
        you’re still here freely expressing your preferences.

        It’s called freedom of speech and it’s not only for you or
        the privileged few, okely dokely.

        • OccamsKatana

          Seeing as how you’re sticking your face in the conversation:

          I never said they couldn’t talk about it. I said I don’t like it, and if they ever talked like that about my daughter in front of me, they would be a sorry pile of blood and broken bones.

          If you’d stuck your face on this site before today, you’d see that I don’t troll. But feel free…..

          Reread the conversations, and reread the parts of his/her/it’s conversation I have quoted. Reread where I repeatedly ask for the statistics he/she/it is quoting.

          Reread where I assert my opinions, in my freedom of speech and ask for answers and/or clarification, to which I get nothing but a quick spin.

          Your writing style looks hauntingly familiar………  Nice try

        • OccamsKatana

          Downloading a song and fucking a little boy in the ass is NOT the same thing.

          I’ve stated in no uncertain terms that raping children is a sore spot for me.

          I have spent most of my life teaching martial arts to children and creating an awareness in the community against pedophilia.

          Now, are you going to allow me MY freedom to express myself or are you going to jump on the ‘defend pedophilia’ bandwagon?

          Actually reading all those replies to Fredrika words; I now
          fully, without any fog what so ever, but with absolute clarity, understand why “Which Hunts” happen
          WITCH HUNT. 

        • Fredrika

          > “One last time:”

          Well you seem to have a hard time reading text properly, so why not.

          > “And when i ask you to provide the statistics you quote, it shouldn’t be hard to provide said statistics if they exist.”

          As i said, i have not quoted any statistics.

          > “YOUR WORDS:

          >> “Statistically the majority of all child abuse in the world is performed by the parents..”

          Correct, but you seem to have a hard time differentiating between statistics, as in gathered data and hard numbers, from the term statistically, which means something different. I did not quote any exact numbers from any existing statistics, so there was nothing to give you.

          > “Statistically means ACCORDING TO STATISTICS.

          No. A statistical fact is a statistical fact even before any actual statistics have been calculated to prove that fact.

          In reality it is fully possible to claim that something self-evident is in a certain way statistically, without having any actual statistics to reference. You could claim that the earth statistically mostly rotates in one direction, or that a humans head mostly points upward during the day. Both are statistically facts, but i doubt that any actual statistics exist that have numbers to back it up.

          > “I’ve repeatedly asked you to provide such statistics..”

          No you did not, you asked me to provide quoted statistics. Since i never quoted any, there was nothing to provide you with.

          > “..and if you can’t then it’s a fantasy, made up facts, lies, BULLSHIT, Don’t you understand THAT????????”

          No, it most certainly is not. A fact is a fact even before it has been statistically or scientifically proven, do you not understand that? Was the earth not round before it was proven that it was?

          > “Provide the damn statistics or shut the fuck up!”

          To shut you the fuck up i will provide you with some easy statistics which should be self evident to you. I googled child abuse, and entered Wikipedias article. A couple of seconds and i found these numbers, over 15 years old but they shouldn’t have changed that dramatically.

          > “According to the (American) National Committee to Prevent Child Abuse, in 1997 neglect represented 54% of confirmed cases of child abuse, physical abuse 22%, sexual abuse 8%, emotional maltreatment 4%, and other forms of maltreatment 12%”

          Only 8% are sexual child abuse, and far from all of those are performed by pedophiles.

          Now tell me, when over 50% of all the abuse is neglect, which is a type of abuse that is performed by the parents in close to 100% of the cases, and then adding on physical abuse, which reaches 22%, and weighing in that most commonly educated people knows that the majority of all physical abuse in the world takes place in within the family, how in gods name can you be so stupid that you don’t understand on your own that the parents are the one’s that are statistically most likely to abuse the children, and not the small minority of societies pedophiles????

          Now lets jump up a bit in the article to sexual abuse:

          > “Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often brothers, fathers, mothers, uncles or cousins; around 60% are other acquaintances such as friends of the family, babysitters, or neighbours; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases”

          So if we speak of abuse, which was what i initially was commenting on, no doubt the parents are the one’s that should be locked up if you really want to protect the children, because statistically the parents are the one’s that are most likely to abuse a child, not a pedophile.

          But if it’s sexual abuse you’re so worried about, you should be aware of the fact that statistically there already exist several pedophiles among your acquaintances, and because you are such an ignorant violent person when it comes to people with certain sexualities that you feel uncomfortable around(sexualities that they have not chosen themselves by the way), such as maybe homosexuality, or most definitely pedophelia, they will most likely have kept quite about that, which increases the risk that a pedophile in your surrounding will have a chance of abusing your child sexually. Had you and all other ignorant idiots of parents in society been intelligent and rational persons and not stigmatized pedophelia, the pedophiles might not have been so afraid of disclosing their sexuality, which could have given you a chance of either talking to them calmly about it and that you don’t think they should be left alone with your child, or even help them seeking treatment and help.

          Your and most ignorant parents stupid irrational ignorant opinions about pedophiles is no doubt extremely counter-productive, if it’s actually the children you care about.

          > “I never said they couldn’t talk about it. I said I don’t like it, and if they ever talked like that about my daughter in front of me, they would be a sorry pile of blood and broken bones.”

          Yes you did admit to being an irrational violent psychopath. I should have taken your warning more seriously, and not assumed that you had any common sense.

          > “Downloading a song and fucking a little boy in the ass is NOT the same thing.”

          No one has ever claimed that, so that’s a straw-man from you.

          > “I have spent most of my life teaching martial arts to children and creating an awareness in the community against pedophilia.”

          You mean ignorance, right? Because that’s the only thing you have displayed regarding that topic in this discussion.

        • OccamsKatana

          Statistics is the study of the collection, organization, analysis, interpretation, and presentation of data.[1][2] It deals with all aspects of this, including the planning of data collection in terms of the design of surveys and experiments.[1]

          sta·tis·tics  (st-tstks)
          n.1. (used with a sing. verb)
          The mathematics of the collection, organization, and interpretation of
          numerical data, especially the analysis of population characteristics by
          inference from sampling.2. (used with a pl. verb) Numerical data.

          Definition of ‘Statistics’
          A type of mathematical analysis involving the use of quantified
          representations, models and summaries for a given set of empirical data
          or real world observations. Statistical analysis involves the process of
          collecting and analyzing data and then summarizing the data into a
          numerical form.

          Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/statistics.asp#ixzz28N0A5ZtiNOW FREDRIKA, AS I HAVE ASKED IN EVERY POST, PLEASE PROVIDE LINKS WITH EITHER THE STATISTICS YOU STATISTICALLY SPEAK OF< OR A LINK FOR YOUR DEFINITION OF STATISTICS.FFS, Learn the damn language!!!  You like fucking with people but you don't make a single iota of sense.Show me your statistics that you speak of.You googled info, so show me the damn links or shut the fuck up!!!  Otherwise you're FULL OF SHIT.
           

        • OccamsKatana

          You mean ignorance, right? Because that’s the only thing you have displayed regarding that topic in this discussion.

          You’re right, I have shown an abundance of YOUR ignorance, in all facets of this conversation.

          Would you not protect your family should someone want to hurt them, If any disagrees with my thoughts, feel free to jump in. Anyone hurts my daughter and no doubt they’d be hurting more afterwards. There’s nothing irrational about that. Violent, perhaps, psychopathic, not at all. There’s lots of passion there.
          As a matter of fact, my statement is the antithesis of psychopathy.

          Again, nice try and spin away……  

          I have taught children how not to be brainwashed into being abused by the likes of you. As you seem to disagree with teaching children to be aware of pedophiles….

          Freak

        • OccamsKatana

          Out of curiosity, what IS your gender, and what IS your sexual preference?  Since you seem to be such an advocate for freedom of sexuality, tell us. Enlighten us…

          Or is that a secret????  Thought as much.

        • Galileo Galilei

          @OccamsKatana
          You are writing very strange writings. When someone is so “hawkish” then he/she is hiding something.

          Usually the ones doing talking like you, how hard you hate pedophiles, are the the real world pedophiles.

        • OccamsKatana

          @a9cd769e9ab243b6ffa91f9c5768f018:disqus

          Nice try. As a child, my sister was raped by a pedophile. I spent my life training in martial arts and have schools dedicated to protecting and educating children and parents about the sick fuckers out there.  Yes, the hawkish ones are always guilty, right?    So by that reasoning, if i were an outspoken advocate of pedophilia like Fredrika, I’d be cool in your books.

          Nice try though, good guess. Freak.

    • lattari

      Am I really the only one who finds it intolerable that you have people ranting about freedom of speech to a person who’s comments are flagged? Granted, it doesn’t mean the same people flagged those comments, but somebody did, and it looks ridiculous.

      • Guest

        The comments were there before his nonsense was approved to be flagged and flagged. Either your logic is intolerable or I missunderstood you – In case the latter is true, Sorry.

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    • Anon

      fuck you and your spam cock sucker !!!11!!!

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  • TangTew

    Should be rather interesting to see how that all turns out.
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    Not sure if this is connected to this (Rapidgator’s host is a mystery for me) but Rapidgator is unreachable by regular internet connection but reachable by TOR.

    Is it being blocked by the United States now?

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Not sure if this is connected to this (Rapidgator’s host is a mystery for me) but Rapidgator is unreachable by regular internet connection but reachable by TOR.

    Is it being blocked by the United States now?

    • foff

      No still works fine in the states,  there is obvious a routing issue in some other places but the US is fine as of now.

  • Flusher

    The Pirate Bay is dead, long live the Pirate Bay !

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  • gumbi

    wow  thats some serious troll power  going on here

    i couldnt even read most of the drivel written here  i wanted to read about as an a semi decent secure  hosting service getting busted  and pulling there pants down and letting there servers be seized  it brings to the fore why pay so much hard cash to these hosts that say there filesharing friendly but they just roll over and let yer shit get seized

    not about pedos  if you got a problem with it tell legion to  ddos the fuck out of those evil cunts  hiding under tor  services 

    so ps all the tf trolls go fuck off and spam another blog  im here to read some interesting factual news  not fukin rhetoric from keyboard and basement warriors 

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    im quite sure im not wrong with this, arent all the torrent sites mentioned just irrelevant dump sites that mostly contain fake files?

  • TheTapsa

    If only we could build our own Internet without need for ISPs and such. Correct me if I’m wrong but technically I cannot see why it couldn’t be done since we have pretty capable and cheap wireless equipment and enough technical knowhow to make it work. With Tor etc security when sharing a connection shouldn’t be so big a deal either? In Finland we already do have quite large communities sharing one connection so what is holding people behind from expanding the idea? The bandwidth?

    And to comment the comments:

    As interesting as it is to read all this discussion about pedophilia it is getting too far from and drowns the original topic (despite Nanotomic’s try to tie it back) and therefore in my opinion should be continued elsewhere.

    I cannot however remain silent to the fact that few writers comments are getting pretty aggressive. Raging and calling people names isn’t really going to help you get your point being made. This is the internet and you have quite a lot of time to cool down and compose better argument. Keeping your cool.

    • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

      just becuase you could run your own servers by yurself , and not a company. you would still be subject to bullshit like this

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    Is this how Anon DDoS sweden? mass sign-up on PP? =P

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