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Scammers Want File-Sharers To Pay Cash Fines

Riding on the back of the hundreds of thousands of letters sent out by lawyers to alleged file-sharers demanding settlement for copyright infringement, scammers now want their piece of the pie. Using emails which appear to come from a known copyright holder represented by legitimate lawyers, recipients are getting a familiar message. Pay us a relatively small amount now, the emails say, or things could get a whole lot worse.

Vulnerable file-sharers, be they the users of KaZaA more than half a decade ago or those of BitTorrent today, have always been a target for the unscrupulous to generate cash from. While networks such as FastTrack and Gnutella have long been polluted to crisis point with malware-infested files designed to sit on people’s machines making money for nefarious individuals, BitTorrent has largely avoided this level of corruption, but it’s not immune.

Many torrent sites list huge amounts of ‘fakes’ that when downloaded often encourage users to travel to various websites for ‘activation’ or to install suspicious ‘codecs’ in order to watch, well, not even a movie in most cases. But in recent times BitTorrent users have become susceptible to a more advanced type of revenue generation at their expense, the highly questionable but probably legal “pre-settlement letter” business.

If you asked companies such as ACS:Law what they’re up to they would tell you that they’re operating a legitimate business first tracking and then requesting cash settlements from infringers. But to the many innocent victims caught up in the dragnet, it’s less of a scheme and more of a scam, indistinguishable from the many scams already circulating the Internet which demand or manipulate money from their victims.

Today we bring news of a new operation which takes the work of companies such as ACS:Law as inspiration and uses the fear they generate to frighten Internet users to part with their money.

In an email titled “Investigation Against You” which at first glance appears to come from a bona fide law firm, supposed file-sharers are put on notice that they’re in trouble.

According to the text that follows, the email is being sent by the Rechtsanwalt Florian Giese law firm who claim to be representing the interests of Videorama GmbH, a 40 million euro legitimate company based in Essen, Germany.

“The subject of our assignment is that your Internet connection was used on a so-called peer-to-peer network and committed copyright infringement on works held by our clients,” explains the email which goes on to cite various elements of German law which show that the alleged activity is illegal.

Further information suggests that the recipient’s IP address has been tracked downloading multiple music tracks and that based on this evidence a complaint has been made about him or her to the prosecutor.

Your IP address when the crimes were committed: 84.190.XX.XXX

Illegally downloaded music pieces (mp3): 13

Illegally uploaded music pieces (mp3): 21

“As you may have already noticed from the media, today copyright infringement cases in court usually lead to a large fine and court costs,” warns the letter.

This worrying eventuality is backed up by the citing of a real case from early 2010 where the District Court of Magdeburg sentenced a father to pay 3,000 euros because his son shared 132 MP3s on a file-sharing network some years earlier.

The letter adds that to avoid things getting much worse, including possible house searches and court hearings, the copyright holder is prepared to settle out of court – for 100 euros.

It’s suggested that in order to pay “safely and easily” the letter recipient should deposit the money via Ukash or alternative pay with Paysafecard. The letter is signed ‘Rechtsanwalt Florian Giese’, who are a real-life German law firm.

Except the whole thing is a scam from beginning to end.

“Rechtsanwalt Florian Giese is not responsible for the fraudulent e-mails with the subject ‘investigation against you’. These are spam emails from fraudsters,” the company said in response to the news. The lawfirm also confirmed that Videorama GmbH are also not involved in this scam.

However, the scammers are going to some lengths to give the impression they are legitimate, especially by their use of the email addresses “giese@ra-giese.info”, “zahlung@ra-giese.info”, “Giese@lawyer-giese.info and zahlung@rechtsanwalt-giese.info. The lawfirm points out that they only use the domains giese.de and giese.com.

These phony settlement emails have been sent out in large numbers and as a result the Hamburg police are now involved in the investigation. The domain used in connection with the scam, lawyer-giese.info, has been deleted.

To the innocent and particularly the vulnerable with no experience of such matters, this email would seem indistinguishable from the type of correspondence sent out by the likes of ACS:Law. All the elements are there – claims of infringements, very little evidence to back up the claims, threats that things are about to get a whole lot worse and finally an offer to make it all go away for a relatively small amount.

Innocent people have paid up in both scenarios.

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  • lol

    knew this would happen eventually

  • Anonymous

    Disease spreads disease

  • Anonymous

    There is no real difference between the scammers and the lawyers.

    The non existent tracking systems used by the scammers is about as accurate as those used by the lawyers. I bet the scammers scatter gun approach has just as many false positives (contacting non P2Pers) as the lawyers.

    In fact the scammers are probably being more honest as the lawyers in an attempt to legitimize their actions are also scamming rights holders with promises of fat payouts which never materialise.

  • gRRr

    whats the difference? a scam is a scam is a scam…

    The greedy rich,lawyers,Politicians,crooks. they all fall under the same category

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  • A_E

    Well, thank god for the scammers.

    From now on you can assume that such emails ARE a scam and there’s no need to respond to them. Or at least not to the first one.

  • Freaky

    There is a simple WTF DUH moment. When they can find out your E-Mail adress from the ip your pirated then we might be aproaching…… the OUTER LIMITS!!!

    Seriously Sci-Fi In Action. Or maybe they employed the power of Clearvoyance or Oracles, Profets and so on.

    It like knowing your back account from the sand you once stepped on.

    Funny shit man funny shit.

  • British tangent.

    I could not have put it better,comment number 4 has hit the nail on the head,well said.

  • internetjoe

    “Vulnerable file-sharers”

    funny…

  • GuyMeatdrapes

    ha.. what will they think of next?

    i treat all of this kind of thing the same way i treat jury duty notices…

    what notices? i never got a notice/letter/correspondence.. are you sure you are even trying to contact the correct individual? you must be mistaken… apology accepted for wasting my valuable time..

    works like a charm..

  • harry krishna

    that’s not fair. they should at least do paypal.

  • Whatever

    “copyright holder represented by legitimate lawyers”

    This species doesn’t exist… as long as the word “legitimate” is used.

  • Whatever

    If “via Ukash or alternative pay with Paysafecard.” doesn’t ring any bells by those receiving this E-mail then nothing does with the people that pay the scammers.

    Actually those “pay” sites themselves look like a scam.

    @TF
    “The lawfirm also confirmed that Videorama GmbH are also not involved in this scam.”

    This is not a denial that they are doing this kind of “legal” scam. Does this imply that they actually work for Videorama gmbh and/or send “legitimate” pay up or else letters themselves ?

    In short: I am missing in the article what this lawfirm is normally involved in.

  • 2in

    I’m surprise this hasn’t already been done at the snail mail level.
    OK it’s going to take a bit of outlay but letters could be printed using information publicly available in the electoral register, laser printer, envelopes and stamps.

  • Amit Ron

    Arguably, they’re being more honest than the lawyers.

  • Me

    @12 Ukash and paysafecard are both legit.

    You can purchase them both from your local PayPoint (in the UK at least) just like buying a PAYG mobile topup.

    very handy if you dont have a credit or debit card.

  • ahem

    Like ripping a page right out of the book from ACS Law.

    Speaking of which, hows waiting for that train working out for ya? Much smaller problem now, eh?

  • ahem

    Just follow the money, find out who’s behind the Ukash and Paysafecard accounts. Companies served with a subpoena over things like fraud tend to give the information right up, sometimes they don’t even ask for it :)
    If I were those scammers, I’d be pretty nervous right about now.

  • Your high school teacher

    @14 Honesty and scammers should never be used in the same sentence for justification. Its like saying that getting cancer will make you more immortal than getting aids.

  • whipped

    More bottomfeeders!

  • Me (again)

    Ukash and paysafe card are not legit, they charge their customers a rate for transactions for which they have no business. Just like Paypal. For example, Paypal charges 20 to 30 percent. Unbelievable!

  • Anonymous

    The problem is that there is no difference between the scammers and the real thing.

    They are both thieves and we have to get ride of both.

  • Me (again)

    Why, oh why, don’t the powers that be go after all the spammers, scammers, phishers, and others who screw up the internet instead of file sharers who only crime is using bandwidth they have paid for?

    Electronic mail isn’t a legally legitimate form of communication. It is merely convenient.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone leaving in a mansion or driving a fancy car shall be shoot since he/she is probably some type of scammer.

  • me

    Pretty obvious to spot the emails are a scam if you have basic knowledge of how most email scams operate.

    No mention of your real name or address, no details on what works were shared, dodgy payment methods and of course the fact that the message came from an email and not an actual letter.

    Still I expect many people will fall for it.

  • Screw IMP

    Does this mean ISP’s are giving up contact details without a court order? How do these scammers get the email addresses?

    Off topic slightly, how ISP’s will be retaining even more data on YOU…

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/20/imp_coalition/

    Interesting reading the comments that include some hypothetical suggestions including this one

    “…Not that I’m offering advice, but what would happen to their interception program if some enterprising Russian Business Network anarchist was to send tens of thousands of short, encrypted, email messages a second from a “zombie pc network”?…” ;)

    And this one

    “…If so, gloves off. Time for those of us with the know-how to start actively poking government systems, monitoring government people of all salaries above doorman using whatever technology is applicable, and if anything the slightest bit juicy turns up, dump it into the public domain on an overseas server WITHOUT redaction. Let the chips fall where they may..,.”

    Looks like the cyberwar will not be fought against “terrorists in far off countries but with the people of the country itself :(

  • Me

    @20 no extra charges for the first 12 months with paysafecard http://www.paysafecard.com/uk/general/faqs/#c977faq_456

    Ukash no charges http://www.ukash.com/uk/en/faq.aspx

    fail much?

  • kuru

    many sheeps= many wolves
    no sheep=no wolf
    easy as that…

  • Anonymous

    This is not much different than those 419 scams those nigerians use other than the fact they don’t say they are princes trying to transfer millions of dollars out of the country and will give you 20% if you pay processing of $12,000 usd.

    On another note paypal is one of thebiggest scams. scrogle.org paypal scam or try paypalsucks.com & also I can say that this is alot less than the other scams where this scam only wants $100 from the above article compared to the other file sharing scams.

    Also is ASC Crosley guy waiting on the CP train? It got deleted twice but it seems to be back. Lots of people post fake stuff on the train thread but sometimes it is successful.

  • Lothor The Evil

    @25 Screw IMP

    “Does this mean ISP’s are giving up contact details without a court order? How do these scammers get the email addresses?”

    They probably get the email addresses the same way companies get them to send you crap emails on how to make your penis bigger or buy car insurance even though you don’t own a car. It’s junk/spam email and nothing more. Although I have no idea what methods they use but I’m sure it’s not that hard for them.

  • Freedom

    @4 I agree.

    To all interested check this out: Google’s tax scheme evasion which let them escape millions in tax dollars.

    Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/google-2-4-rate-shows-how-60-billion-u-s-revenue-lost-to-tax-loopholes.html

  • ROLF

    rofl, i also received one :)

    well, thank god that i know my ip address block, if only the first two, and it just doesn’t fit mine :)

    seemingly they didn’t even random that, or at least the numbers of the files…pretty lame :)

    cheers

  • @TF…. hypocrites

    TF.. wtf

    YOU HAVE GOT , A CHEEK…

    you link to http://www.torrentreactor.net

    FULL of fakes… is that site.

    HYPOCRITES… you should read your own articles.

    tut

    ha

    @20… your retarded

    UKASH is a pay as you go service.

    You go to a shop ( with paypoint )

    Buy a voucher(code)

    Use the voucher to buy.

    If you buy a £15 voucher ( for £15 ) , YOU have £15 to spend online with retailers who accept UKASH.

    The sellers are the ones who pay ukash for the colection service.

    So you are retarded… If you don’t know what you are talking about…….. just shut da fuk up.

  • 4chan

    The pirates are scamming the artists and entertainment industry with impunity by stealing their work without permission.

    Why is such a big deal when the pirates themselves gets scammed by some con men? Its just a small doze of their own medicine.

  • Anonymous

    @A_E

    “Well, thank god for the scammers.
    From now on you can assume that such emails ARE a scam and there’s no need to respond to them.”

    Well said. That’s exactly how you should handle letters that demand money.
    And you can also go one step further and report them to the electronic crimes unit of your country too.

  • Dopeboyz

    1. set up a domain similar to a big torrent site, charge people for free info

    2. make a file host company , get exposure on release blogs, make money from premium users, run when u cant sustain it

    3. surveys that are actually money making scams

    4. make site like Water4Gas, make fake review sites, get money

    5. make a site like power-level net or help wow , that promise power ups for games online, but just scam ur account or delay u indef.

    6. Promise digital goods thru Paypal when it comes slow or not at all, u complain, within 2 days paypal says digital goods have NO Refunds, who really knows if u ever got it…
    ————-
    And of course…
    the old fasion —- nigerian prince scam (419 eaters com)

    so many so many ways to make large piles of cash without leaving ur proxy at the front door…

    welcome to 21st century…

  • cast

    lol ha ha

    anyway registrations are open @ scenetime.com

  • Anon

    I cant say I blame them..

    its a pirate nation.. its kind of hypocritical to want freedom but then put these guys down for trying to make some easy cash..

    there’s a delete button in your email.. click it and this problem goes away.

    I know.. I know.. what about the ill-informed.. well if they dont take the time to research and just pay up.. you cant help them.

  • Anonymous

    @25 I’ve noticed an article in today’s Metro about this freaky plan and almost screamed in terror.

  • Crooks

    There is no honor among thieves lol

    Poor vulnerable on-line thieves being ripped off by scammer thieves

    ROFL poetic justice I say!!!

  • Gupta

    Scammers?

    Does it really matter who’s behind the scam?

    It’s all a scam as far as I can tell.

    I thought it was obvious for everyone.

  • anon

    Well, this is one situation where scammers will help invalidate the whole pay-up-or-else scheme. People could simply choose to ignore ALL letters with the argument that they thought they came from spammers!
    Brilliant!

  • TorrentIdiots
  • Ninja

    Ooooh, they finally caught up. I remember like several months ago wondering to myself here in the comments how come no1 spotted this golden scamming mine. But wait, can’t what ACS and the likes do be described as scam (do we remember the cases of such firms sending threats for rights they didn’t own)?

    Just lol ;)

  • Me (again)

    Whomever is using Me, it was my ID in the first place. Do you expect people to pay online to some threat?

    Those paypal type deals might not charge you directly, but they certainly take a big cut.

    You douchebag.

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of anti-P2P posts on here – more proof that there is a propaganda war going on right now by the rights holders (read: idiots) trying to ‘fit in’ with the kids and put a bad message across.

    Word on IRC is that someone’s gone to a huge effort to try and silence an attack on Hadopi.fr that’s planned.

    Don’t fool for the propaganda people. We are file sharers, we are the future.

    Sharing is the best way forward for humanity.

  • Me (The Real Me)

    @43 rofl…….prove it! O_o

  • MacDuck

    If people respond to or even pay after receiving such mails – from scammers or real laywers – it’s their own bad.
    Without a proper sue why should anyone pay?

    I also think it’s really sad that people use things like paysafecard to scam people. It’s ruining their reputation as great ways to pay safely over the internet without providing your personal details.

  • Me (The Real Me)

    “Do you expect people to pay online to some threat?”

    Is that question directed at Me? If so, who’s the real douchebag?

    I merely pointed out that the “payment methods” are legit.

    Please engage your brain before commenting! K? thanks!

  • zab

    Aren’t these old news? ACS:Law etc. are scammers, after all, aren’t they?

  • i am, how you say, some russian-guy-ovich

    You know the interesting thing is that with the Acs:law archive readily available for the public, wouldn’t it now be possible for scammers to use “client” info as a base mailing list? Those people could get hit twice.

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  • Fugasmic

    The scary thing is, there will always be a few muppets that will pay up.

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  • rob8urcakes

    This article is one of the funniest pieces of modern comedy I’ve read since coverage of TPB appeal.

    It reports on a scam borne from the illegitimate bastard father of scams – the attack on innocent people who fileshare for no cash, no profit and no personal gain.

    Thanks TF, you’ve still got perspective and a really decent sense of humour. I bow to your tickly stick.

  • gem

    quote
    It reports on a scam borne from the illegitimate bastard father of scams – the attack on innocent people who fileshare for no cash, no profit and no personal gain.
    end quote

    give me a break.. innocent people who illegally fileshare.. what a laugh – filesharers profit and get personal gain by stealing media by not paying for it.. more cash in their pocket to get stuff for free!

  • youngin

    Did these fools NOT learn fro ACS:Law getting exposed for this crap?

    Time to whip out the RICO lawsuit!

  • ‘puterman

    I would never respond to such garbage in e-mail form. Let me get a Letter in the mail & then I’ll take it seriously. Still not getting any cash from me though…

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