Second NinjaVideo Admin Jailed For Copyright Infringement

A second administrator of NinjaVideo, one of the first targets of the US government’s Operation in Our Sites, has been sentenced. Matthew Smith, known online as Dead1ne, received 14 months in prison, two years supervised release, and was ordered to pay back just over $172,000 he allegedly earned from the site.

Late June 2010, nine sites connected to unauthorized movie streaming were targeted by US law enforcement.

NinjaVideo, at the time one of the Internet’s most popular video portals, was one of the first targets in the now-famous and ongoing Operation in Our Sites.

Five people connected to NinjaVideo were arrested and in September 2011 they were indicted by a federal grand jury. After pleading guilty on September 23rd, yesterday one of the site’s founders was sentenced in Alexandria, Va..

Matthew David Howard Smith, known online as Dead1ne, received 14 months in prison for his activities at Ninja. U.S. District Judge Anthony J. Trenga also ordered Smith to serve two years of supervised release.

Of the total $505,000 said to have been collected by NinjaVideo in ad revenue and donations since its creation in February 2008, Smith is said to have received $172,387. The court ordered Smith to repay this amount and forfeit five financial accounts and previously-seized sundry computer equipment.

When compared to the punishment handed out to NinjaVideo co-founder Hana Beshara earlier this month, Smith was treated relatively leniently. Beshara, known online as ‘Phara’, was sentenced to 22 months in prison followed by 2 years of probation, 500 hours of community service and ordered to repay nearly $210,000.

In contrast to Beshara, 23-year-old Smith appears to have caused the authorities much less of a headache since his guilty plea. After her sentencing, the hugely outspoken 30-year-old Beshara posted comments to Facebook which suggested she had no regrets. The outburst incensed the authorities and she was rushed directly to a local prison to begin her sentence.

Three former operators of NinjaVideo are yet to be sentenced including 34-year-old Joshua David Evans (known online as Wadswerth), 33-year-old Jeremy Lynn Andrew (known online as htrdfrk), and 28-year-old Justin A. Dedemko (known online as Afr1ka). All face a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine when they are sentenced in the coming months.

Zoi Mertzanis of Greece, known online as “Tik”, is accused of being one the site’s most active uploaders. A warrant is outstanding for his arrest.

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Ale

Tough shit, but they did make money off of it.

I feel worse for the ones who just shared files with no other intention.
- http://twitter.com/ahm Avery
  
  Pirates who upload for public consumption are openly flouting the law and need to be really careful. I appreciate streaming sites, but if the people who run them drop their anonymity to try to make money and then get arrested, I can only say “tough luck”.
  - Predator
    
    FREE HANA BESHARA!
    
    Or prepare to be predated!
- Guest
  
  This one troubles me. The penalties are certainly way overblown for what essentially is a civil matter. Jail time is ridiculous.
  
  But I can’t condone the moral behaviour of what the victims did. Selling other peoples stuff isn’t kewl. If they tried to donate a lot of the proceeds directly to the artists who made the stuff traded, I’d be all for what they did.
  - Anonymous
    
    They, like Megaupload, are EXAMPLES. Scare Tactics. Nothing more. Keep sharin’…
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay
      
      Wait until I show everything that ICE has been up to that no one has paid attention to…
      
      You’ll go ape about it.
  - http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat
    
    They didn’t sell others people stuff.
    
    Intellectual property is bullshit.
    - Wow
      
      I agree that IP is bullshit in general, but think of it this way.
      
      You spend 2 years making a movie. You sell the movie for $15. I buy it the second it comes out, and start selling physical copies that I advertise for $1 that everyone buys. You think that should be legal? Piracy is about sharing for NO PROFIT. Hence why the bittorrent protocol and private trackers are so great. Sure, you get upload credit, but no cash is ever exchanged, it’s all about the love of sharing. In general I support non-profit piracy, I think there are some flaws to iron out in how artists make money, but it’s really pushing the industry to do stuff like Netflix streaming/Amazon streaming/Hulu/Pandora which is wonderful. In my ideal world we spend ~$15 and can stream all the music, movies, and games we want. Similar to Pandora + Netflix + GameFly.
    - Kr0nZ
      
      @Wow
      
      But they weren’t selling anything, having advertisements on your website is COMPLETELY different too selling copies/access
      
      They didnt sell ANYTHING, they profited from advertisements. You or anybody else were not forced to buy ANYTHING to access their streaming content.
    - Jeff
      
      @Wow
      I disagree (about the sharing without profit). I think that there are two things that justify piracy:
      1) If you cant afford it (note difference between afford and have enough $$$)
      2) Preview it before buying? Ok well if you’re doing this atleast do SOMETHING to support the artist. This is sort of a grey area between being cheap and not being able to afford it.
      3) I’m sure there are more special cases, but I hate when people HAVE the money and CAN afford it but they are just pirating for the sole purpose of being cheap
      4) Making art/music/video is pointless without an audience. As someone who makes video content, I definitely want it to be seen. If someone lives in a country that it’s not available through legal channels, absolutely torrent it. That’s actually the problem with all this legal BS. It’s counterintuitive, it prevents people from recieving the message of which many people spent many long hours of their life on set trying to help get sent. That said, it can’t be created if everyone just decides to cheap out. Not saying that’s what everyone is doing (see 1&2), but yeah.
      5) fuck the mpaa & riaa. Who gave them the right to represent every artist?
  - Anonymouse
    
    Yeah these asswipes give the rest of the file sharers a bad name who just want some entertainment. No sympathy for them.
    - TRUE N0RTH
      
      totally agree!
      
      sharing is caring, thats why i will ONLY d/l my movies,tv shows and apps.
      
      Doesnt matter if someone profits from ad`s on their streaming site,does a good quality cam and sell it to the Russian Mafia or sell copy`s on the street corner of Times Square in NYC.
      
      Profiting from this is just PLAIN FUCKING WRONG……..
  - Guest
    
    you are brainwashed by big brother and big $$,”moral behaviour” isnt involved here,the artists arent losing anything when we p2p share their music or movie or software,they are gaining recognition to the world.Its free publicity.Its ratings on a public forum.This copyrite law is the biggest hoax put on the public since freedom was put on america.
    Let me explain,The bands make $$ during their live show ie:like when I pay $1400.00 for 4 tickets to see the rolling stones or $800.00 for 2 tkts to see Paul Mcartney and many many others.So when I download music on p2p I feel I already paid for their music.The same for Movies you see in the theatre ie:box office sales go in the millions.the software that is shared among the common rabble shouldnt be a concern either because businesses would cover those expenses.
    Here is my argument.being a carpenter who builds houses buildings,furniture and the sort in my field feel I should recieve royalties whenever you walk through your front door I should get a nickel owhen you open or close a window or when the judge sits his phat ass down behind the bench built by a carpenter.I did a live show when I built it like the band when they played it, but to get payed again for a job you already did I should be as rich as hollywood where is my copyright
    do you want to pay twice or more for things you take for granted
    - Anonymous
      
      One problem I see. You mention movies and music and correctly recognize that the majority of their profits come from real-world performances, but you don’t make mention of games, where the only form of media is the digital one.
    - Travieso
      
      I completely agree with your comment. filmmakers, producer and every creative artist make money on performances and at the theaters where the audience go pay to see the shows/Movies .. Song writers make money selling their lyrics to the artists not distributing it, A music composer make money by composing the songs for the artists not by distribution either, the interpreter of the songs make money on performances not but bare make anything on distribution and same goes for Filmmakers, Producers, Actors, etc … they all want to sell their product more than once to the same consumer by putting it on a blue encase on a DVD/CD.. This SOPA/PIPA is no more than the distribution companies trying to make the most out of a product they have not invest any money yet. People should know that most of these distribution companies don’t pay their money upfront, they all get a piece of the sells DVD/CDs sells .. Sharing files is a distribution form which all those big companies out there see as their biggest competition, so, they want to destroy their biggest competition by making it illegal and suing everyone who benefit from it
- Anonymous
  
  and? why is this significant?
  
  websites don’t operate for free. Making the money to pay for the website to let it simply run is ideal, but requires (making the money).
  - Guest
    
    the adds pay for it all just watch general hospital how did they get so rich
- USA Should Cease To Exist
  
  so you expect people to run a website FOR YOU and have a second full time job? 172K over 3 years that aint that much
- Shhh
  
  Making money is just part of the game, just because YOU are able to live off your parents doesn’t mean these people can.
  Do YOU even know what kind of work is put into creating a website? especially one as extensive as NinjaVideo? Im going to guess no, and Im also going to guess you have no idea what website coding even looks like.
  
  Next time actually know the value of a dollar before making a stupid comment, and pull your head out of your ass before spewing shit.
  
  You are a prime example of someone who WANTS THERE CAKE AND EAT IT TOO…… you cant have the best off both world
  - Jeebus
    
    Why should anyone care how much work they put into their site? Nobody told them to make NV. You have no right to earn from a site whose contents are not yours and owned by somebody else. Its like someone copying articles from my site which I have worked hard on and earning money from it. In such cases even earning advertising revenue should be unlawful as the revenue is being generated because of users who are visiting the site for the illegal contents you have posted. Remove the illegal content and wallah, no traffic and no ad revenue.
    - Kr0nZ
      
      Without these sites you wouldn’t have these free videos to enjoy, people don’t do illegal stuff for free, and yes even the torrent sites make money.
      
      There’s no point taking a risk if there’s no pay off
    - Guest
      
      maybe you should keep paying the carpenter who built your house a nickel everytime you walk through a door or up and down a step or open and close a window or the plumber a dime everytime you FLUSH THE TOILET
    - Guest
      
      you are brainwashed by big brother and big $$,”moral behaviour” isnt involved here,the artists arent losing anything when we p2p share their music or movie or software,they are gaining recognition to the world.Its free publicity.Its ratings on a public forum.This copyrite law is the biggest hoax put on the public since freedom was put on america.
      Let me explain,The bands make $$ during their live show ie:like when I pay $1400.00 for 4 tickets to see the rolling stones or $800.00 for 2 tkts to see Paul Mcartney and many many others.So when I download music on p2p I feel I already paid for their music.The same for Movies you see in the theatre ie:box office sales go in the millions.the software that is shared among the common rabble shouldnt be a concern either because businesses would cover those expenses.
      Here is my argument.being a carpenter who builds houses buildings,furniture and the sort in my field feel I should recieve royalties whenever you walk through your front door I should get a nickel owhen you open or close a window or when the judge sits his phat ass down behind the bench built by a carpenter.I did a live show when I built it like the band when they played it, but to get payed again for a job you already did I should be as rich as hollywood where is my copyright
      do you want to pay twice or more for things you take for granted
    - Kr0nZ
      
      @1st guest
      By visiting a website that is making money off advertising YOU ARE NOT PAYING ANYONE FROM YOUR OWN POCKET BY VISITING THE SITE, unless you choose to buy what said advertisement is offering.
      
      So I dont see how your analogy fits into anything, IF NinjaVideo had a pay-per-view model then this wouldn’t be ok, because the content WOULDNT be free anymore, they would therefore be charging $$$ to access pirated content.
      BY MAKING MONEY OFF ADVERTISING YOU (THE WEBSITE USER) ARE NOT PAYING ANYTHING
      
      Jeez, some people ignorance amazes me sometimes, you are either some kind of child, someone paid to come here to troll
    - Jeebus
      
      Its totally irrelevant whether I am paying them anything or not. The fact that they are earning because I am visiting their site is not right because I am only visiting the site for the bucket load of illegal content they have on their site. So in essence, its the illegal contents which are generating the ad revenue. As I said before, take away the illegal contents and suddenly you have no visitors and no ad revenue.
      
      Aside from the advertising revenue argument, these guys from NinjaVideo also accepted money for their work, which is uploading content they had no rights to.
      
      Let’s be real. When you open a site in this niche (piracy), you have no right to make any money because unlike sites in other niche where you have to work hard on developing your own unique content, warez/torrent sites basically have content that someone else spent years working on.
    - Professa
      
      Even without the illegal content NV still has a community
- Anonymous
  
  One of the more troubling aspects of the continuing investigation(s) is that the authorities are increasingly using the same technologies (i.e. big data, The Cloud, social media) to target individuals, that those individuals were using to share & comment. One of the first things law enforcement does after an arrest is to “dump” the suspect’s phone and run the contacts through a database.
  
  As most smartphones now keep a running record of all the interactions the user has had during the time of ownership, this yields a treasure trove of information that can be used to then target that suspect’s social graph for further monitoring and eventual arrest & seizure … which will then yield even more data. Rinse, repeat. It’s the same thing that’s going on in places like Syria, where the protesters are desperately popping the SIM cards out of their phones and trying to eat them while handcuffed in the back of police vans.
  
  What will this lead to in the future? Will the RIAA/MPAA be able to effect mass seizures on anyone who has illegally downloaded a song or movie or videogame? Probably not. Will they use this to target the “worst” offenders in an effort to cow the rest of the community into meek submission?
- http://www.webstatsart.com/ Webstats Art
  
  Yeh. If you are going to do stuff, you better have made some money to pay your lawyer
http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

If the USA continues to FAIL people in this way, they’ll end up criminalising and attempting to jail the majority of people who have an internet connection.

How dumb is that MAFIAA?
It would be better to get your heads out your ass (as well as your hands off your wallet for bribing politicians) and just drag yourselves into the 21st century by adapting your out-dated business model that’s no longer fit for modern society Worldwide.

Listen to your customers (actual + potential) you dumbass fucktards. Do that and there’s little need to continue payments to politicians for laws that no-one wants.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/14472117492/mpaa-directly-publicly-threatens-politicians-who-arent-corrupt-enough-to-stay-bought.shtml
Anonymous

Unbelievable, I jsut cant get over it dude, the US is off its rocker!
http://www.Total-Privacy dot US
- Spam Control
  
  Is there no way to get rid of this guy? This moron is a bigger threat than the MAFIAA.
Starlet

Has something happened to VideoBB now, all videos seem to be disappearing.
- Gae
  
  I think its connected to/run by Megaupload, they both always seemed to share the same 72 minute viewing limit between them and access to both stopped at the same time.
  - Anonymous
    
    Videobb is a “stream thief” meaning, they steal streaming videos from other sites… Their Megaupload videos are gone.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay
      
      The irony here is rather poignant…
    - Mr. Putin
      
      Megavideo was a stream thief when it started…
- Koymqskr
  
  VideoBB deleted a shitload of videos over DMCA.
  
  They’re shitting bricks over what happened to MU.
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http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

This is about far more than copywrong. It’s about BIG CONTENT, like Fox News and News International controlling your access to information. They want the internet restricted so it can only deliver THEIR message. Last year’s Arab Spring scared them shitless and they want the independent bloggers and others silenced. But they can’t actually admit that in public, so they push for censorship thinly disguised as ‘protecting intellectual property’.
We’ve already seen how successfully mainstream US media have kept the average American in Dullsville Idaho, ignorant of what goes on outside the US borders. That’s one reason it was so easy for Bush to launch his war on terror, wreck Iraq and so on.
So, Ninja Video were wrong to profit from their actions, but their wrongdoing was miniscule compared to what BIG CONTENT does every day, not just in the copywrong wars, but far more in telling big lies on TV and in newspapers to support the rest of the 1% – people like the Koch brothers, hedge fund managers, arms manufacturers, banks.
- ColinIsaDolt
  
  Amazing how Colin doesn’t mention the Democrats who are the largest recipients of “Big Content” money, by far. Or the fact that Democrats support SOPA by a margin of nearly 2 to 1 vs Republicans, or how Obama is supported by Hollywood and the main stream media.
  
  Just blah blah blah, Bush (who isn’t the president any more, since you seem unaware), blah blah blah Iraq, blah blah blah Koch Brother (do he even know who George Soros is?).
  
  Colin, another stupid hack so blinded by his partisanship that he can’t see what’s going on right in front of him.
  - Anonymous
    
    Both Parties in Washington are guilty of taking Big Corporate Money !!!
    And yes the Democrats are a bunch of Assholes but so tare the Republicans.
Anonymous

Tik, Tik, Tik,
Run, Run, Red
The Feds are after you,
for sharing some fun.

LOL
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay
  
  I think Greece has bigger problems than copyright scofflaws…
  - Anonymous
    
    You could well be right but it is never helpful to only focus on big problems while ignoring the small ones.
    
    I say good luck to Zoi Mertzanis (Tik) anyway. I am sure he was only a courier whose job was to FXP the latest releases between servers. I doubt he got any reward out of it beyond site data credits.
    
    The US Department of Punishment (ex-Justice) is now after him. I would not say he did much wrong beyond sharing for the benefit of the users. His only fault was to be the best.
pak

how exactly were they making money out of this? donations and ads? so what?
- Anonymous
  
  you answered your own question. they made money off of donations and ads. and yes if you make over half a million dollars running a site that’s only offering pirated material, you may end up in jail.
  
  i have no problem with someone downloading a movie here or there or grabbing an album of their favorite artists. but when you start doing it on a massive scale to the point where you’re getting rich off it, i personally don’t mind if you get in trouble with the law.
  
  at the end of the day you gotta use some common sense. these guys choose greed over commonsense and are now paying the price.
  - pak
    
    isn’t google doing the same thing?
    - Anonymouse
      
      No you fucking idiot. There is a difference between running a streaming site and making millions AND running a search engine that indexes anything and everything on the web. The intention and motive makes all the difference in the world.
    - pak
      
      google!=justgoogle
      
      what about youtube? I don’t think they run a search engine in this case, videos have to be stored somewhere.
    - Anonymouse
      
      Is Google uploading copyrighted videos to Youtube to earn money? Google has partnerships with several labels who earn money for each view their videos get. Its a collaboration that benefits both the content owner and Google. How is this even comparable to Ninja Video?
      
      Use the single brain cell that you have before asking stupid questions.
    - pak
      
      “Is Google uploading copyrighted videos to Youtube to earn money”
      
      When you watch a video that has “illegal content” you may click on some ads. Not everyone is in the partnership program. So the money in this case goes to Google.
      
      and I’m not asking stupid questions. I’m just replying to stupid answers.
  - J-Bar Steez
    
    Perhaps you are not from the United States of America. Here in the USA $56,000 a year is far from getting rich. A 40hr week for 52 weeks makes that $27/hr, and I assume Smith would have to pay his own medical and retirement out of that sum.
Jan Pasierb

american retards dont understand that the internet is for sharing. When will they bomb themselves so they will no longer poison normal peoples heads?
- http://www.facebook.com/hopeyoufsckingdie Hope You Die
  
  Lrn2makesensek?
Jb1038

So what happens to sites like JustinTv and Veetle lots of copyright material all over these sites? Yes I now they take down streams but still..
- http://freedomireland.com Jonny
  
  I’m wondering about this. Sidereel.com is doing everything these others sites were doing. Is really popular and is owned by a corporation. Why aren’t they being shut down? Is it because these sites comply with DMCA?
- B4476352
  
  All got to do is just look at
  http://www.justin.tv/directory/entertainment
  sure they take them down but it’s constantly this much content on this category, people outside US/UK buy their pro accounts so they can keep watching cause else they get kicked out of the streams if there is certain amount of viewers.
  They are big now with the gaming and social streams but copyrighted material really made them what they are today, especially all the sports that used to be on it the first 2-3 years of the site’s existence before giving copyright owners tool to remove on their own. I know one of the co-founders of the site used to love those streams, watching them and chat with the users in first couple years of justin.tv, of course everything changed once noticed started to pile in. Good times.
Nimski

What are you guys in for?

Prisoner 1: I raped and killed a 7-year old girl
Prisoner 2: I sold heroin on the streets
Prisoner 3: I owned a video sharing website allowing access to media for US troops on duty, censored countries, and media not available to certain countries.
- Anonymous
  
  Prisoner 4: Me Arrested for selling an 1/8 ounce of Cocaine and since I did not Rat anyone out I got a Federal Sentence of 18 Months, 6 Six Years Supervised, and a $3600 Fine.All courtesy of the Feds.
  Fed Dogbutt Heads are giving out hefty sentences just for sharing a Video or not even Hosting Videos but just providing a link.
  Fuck You Big Content.You are MAFIAA
  Join my Facebook Group “Boycott Big Content”.
  - LOL
    
    We should instead boycott the noise you like to pass off as “music” :)
    - Anonymous
      
      Shut Up Troll and go buy some more products from your Corporate Masters.
    - LOL
      
      Guess you are no different from the ones you want people to boycott :)
    - Anonymous
      
      Music is subjective.
      Now instead of throwing the toys out of the crib and having a temper tantrum like the MAFIAA because you can’t come up with a constructive/argumentative response, how about we move on and have a respectable debate please.
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AJ

14 months only? Hardly a deterrent. These cocksuckers will be back out in no time and once again get back to business.
- Weihhih
  
  if fail to realize nothing will deter the internet? u think a harder sentence would do anything? lol
  - Anonymous
    
    It’ll make a martyr out of such a person and cause an even bigger rally then SOPA did, that is something the MAFIAA do not want at any cost for the very same reasons why put these people in prison in the first place.
http://tinyurl.com/Commision-command Polly Jenkins

That is just crazy.
Koymqskr

[sarcasm] Ah… the world can sleep easy tonight.
‘Cause the terrorists are going to jail! [/sarcasm]
Guest

USA Gov is controlled by the Illuminati.
Chronoss2008

and if he dont pay it back ….and how much it cost taxpayers to put the guy into prison versus what?

yup a no brainer if you like paying loads a taxes
http://filehostingdirectory.com/ Filehosting

I dunno if the NV owners followed the DMCA but MU did not. They have their email records discussing illegal activities… I mean how dumb could you be? The second you make money you have to convert to a strictly legal stance. You can’t even talk like a pirate. Look at hotfile.com… barely escaped by the hairs on his chinny chin chin.
foff

The feds are fucking mental for giving sentences for things that basically harm no one all the cost for of trial and investigation for what? Streaming links are still readily available. There was a small time Mj dealer that sold a small amount to a federal agent. The dealer had a gun strapped to his ankle and did not use it or even touch it but because of federal sentence guidelines received 55 years in the federal pen.

The point is our federal penal system like the the IRS is run by a bunch of Nazi’s draped in an american flag. It is sickening how humans can treat each other over even minor offenses even in a country that is supposed to represent one of the fairest justice systems in the world. The one in the us is descending into one of the most barbaric.
Filesharing

A short time ago there was an attack on the Polish government websites: http://www.usenet.info.pl/atak-anonymous-na-polskie-strony-rzadowe-za-acta/ . That is probably associated with the desire signing of ACTA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement . Freedom on the Internet dying?
Guest

Fuck this selling bootleg copies is like robbing a ships treasure chest and squandering the riches on rum and wenches or Robin Hood giving to poor just charging a dollar for paper sleeve and dvd media which is dirt cheap for retail copies and lets not forget gas to go record the film, fee for movie entree oh yeah almost 12 hours to prep a cam quality through leveling, filtering, syncing, appending, converting and finally burning Oh yeah then offer cam quality to the world to dl for free. Fuck You Im A Pirate $1 dvd for the poor. US $1 carries roughly no value in other countries $1= 0.7739 euro
Anonymous

It would seem our government is trying to destroy the internet. Shutting down megaupload terminated 3% of internet traffic. Thats like destroying the state of Arizona!
- Anon
  
  Thats a lot of bandwidth saved which was previous being used for distributing copyrighted files illegally.
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Cosmouse

NinjaVideo admins were notorious assholes. Whatever sympathy they could have gotten from me about this — and don’t get me wrong, these punishments are outrageous — was destroyed by their abrasive and abusive management.
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  Only in your mind and it was their goddamned website…. they had the right to be abrasive and abusive if they wanted to, just as you have/had the right to not use their website.
Gg

Lol bunch of retards
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crasher

they were funded in ad-revenue by advertisers. but no blame is put on the advertisers, once again. these are indeed big $$ morals.
http://www.r-gate.net/ Mohamed Tair

Guess you are no different from the ones you want people to boycott :)
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Chilly Willy

As far as Zoi Mertzanis, if he is in Greece, they cannot get him. Greece, along with France and Germany, and three European countries that are prohibited by law from handing their citizens over to any other country, for any reason.
aubmaire

the simple fact is that someone (dont look at just the corporations who published it and the people that represent those corporations) has created this film/song and they don’t get paid for their work.
i strive to avoid downloading stuff but sometimes its not available/i cant afford it at the time.
but no matter how you package up the reasons behind “reason” (i read soldiers in Afghanistan, poor people, people in countries where stuff is blocked off) its still stealing and there needs to be parameters around having the content being available to everyone. there are bigger international problems than this stuff.
dont get me wrong, this shit is like the start of internet censorship in the first world and taking simple liberties away from people by corporate big shots and hypocrites.
all we can do is keep protesting and searching for a better solution.
on the topic of making profit on hosting/linking/providing pirated content is pretty shit, theres a line on this stuff and that is it.
like when i heard anon/lulzsec had gotten hold of a bunch of emails or something, i wanted to know what they were doing with it, because to release a whole bunch of innocent peoples info would be crossing the line.
internet shenanigans should be completely non profit and anyone who does is a god damned criminal
Alexa-deluise

SOPA Sucks they should freaking kill those no lifers who started it…

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