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U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

The US Government has yet again shuttered several domain names this week. The Department of Justice and Homeland Security’s ICE office proudly announced that they had seized domains related to counterfeit goods and child pornography. What they failed to mention, however, is that one of the targeted domains belongs to a free DNS provider, and that 84,000 websites were wrongfully accused of links to child pornography crimes.

As part of “Operation Save Our Children” ICE’s Cyber Crimes Center has again seized several domain names, but not without making a huge error. Last Friday, thousands of site owners were surprised by a rather worrying banner that was placed on their domain.

“Advertisement, distribution, transportation, receipt, and possession of child pornography constitute federal crimes that carry penalties for first time offenders of up to 30 years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine, forfeiture and restitution,” was the worrying message they read on their websites.

As with previous seizures, ICE convinced a District Court judge to sign a seizure warrant, and then contacted the domain registries to point the domains in question to a server that hosts the warning message. However, somewhere in this process a mistake was made and as a result the domain of a large DNS service provider was seized.

The domain in question is mooo.com, which belongs to the DNS provider FreeDNS. It is the most popular shared domain at afraid.org and as a result of the authorities’ actions a massive 84,000 subdomains were wrongfully seized as well. All sites were redirected to the banner below.

This banner was visible on the 84,000 sites

CP banner

The FreeDNS owner was taken by surprise and quickly released the following statement on their website. “Freedns.afraid.org has never allowed this type of abuse of its DNS service. We are working to get the issue sorted as quickly as possible.”

Eventually, on Sunday the domain seizure was reverted and the subdomains slowly started to point to the old sites again instead of the accusatory banner. However, since the DNS entries have to propagate, it took another 3 days before the images disappeared completely.

Most of the subdomains in question are personal sites and sites of small businesses. A search on Bing still shows how innocent sites were claimed to promote child pornography. A rather damaging accusation, which scared and upset many of the site’s owners.

One of the customers quickly went out to assure visitors that his site was not involved in any of the alleged crimes.

“You can rest assured that I have not and would never be found to be trafficking in such distasteful and horrific content. A little sleuthing shows that the whole of the mooo.com TLD is impacted. At first, the legitimacy of the alerts seems to be questionable — after all, what reputable agency would display their warning in a fancily formatted image referenced by the underlying HTML? I wouldn’t expect to see that.”

Even at the time of writing people can still replicate the effect by adding “74.81.170.110 mooo.com” to their hosts file as the authorities have not dropped the domain pointer yet. Adding mooo.com will produce a different image than picking a random domain (child porn vs. copyright), which confirms the mistake.

Although it is not clear where this massive error was made, and who’s responsible for it, the Department of Homeland security is conveniently sweeping it under the rug. In a press release that went out a few hours ago the authorities were clearly proud of themselves for taking down 10 domain names.

However, DHS conveniently failed to mention that 84,000 websites were wrongfully taken down in the process, shaming thousands of people in the process.

“Each year, far too many children fall prey to sexual predators and all too often, these heinous acts are recorded in photos and on video and released on the Internet,” Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano commented.

“DHS is committed to working with our law enforcement partners to shut down websites that promote child pornography to protect these children from further victimization,” she added.

A noble initiative, but one that went wrong, badly. The above failure again shows that the seizure process is a flawed one, as has been shown several times before in earlier copyright infringement sweeps. If the Government would only allow for due process to take place, this and other mistakes wouldn’t have been made.

Coverage on previous copyright related seizures can be found here, here and here.

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  • Astry

    FAIL!

    • Anonymous

      Your tax dollars at work.The Keystone Cops have been working overtime I see.

      Jobs in Asia – http://www.pathtoasia.com/jobs/

      • anonymous

        nice spam.

      • anonymous

        nice spam.

    • Floyd

      I disagree. 10 in 84,000 is acceptable results for the government, so I believe this raid was a success! Bravo!

      Now what do they even need an internet kill switch for?

    • Floyd

      I disagree. 10 in 84,000 is acceptable results for the government, so I believe this raid was a success! Bravo!

      Now what do they even need an internet kill switch for?

    • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

      In follow-up questioning, ICE spokespeople replied “LOL, internets.”

    • Ohlord

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      • DocGerbil100

        Oog! If ASCII / unicode art is possible here, can a fifty-goatse post be far behind? :P

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  • http://www.facebook.com/dave.r.lockwood David Lockwood

    Nope, we are nothing like China….We promote free speech! We promote an open internet…just don’t pay attention to us redirecting your A Name on your DNS to us to shut you down… I think it’s time for an alternative to DNS that the government can’t get their grubby hands on..

    • Jon7272

      all there doing is forciing everyone into undetectable methods really good way to find the real criminals like actual child porn and terrerism etc

      • Anonymous

        But. . . but. . . they have to treat everyone equal. . . the innocent as well as the guilty must be punished!

    • guest99009

      There is, they are working out the kinks, but it involves p2p and essentially utilizing the idea that everyone can make their computer their own network.

    • Jrew

      anarchy all the way just over turn the wight house and free the existing dns’s but still child porn isn’t right so just d-dos then to hell

      • CrackedPepper86

        What a valid and coherent response.

    • Jrew

      anarchy all the way just over turn the wight house and free the existing dns’s but still child porn isn’t right so just d-dos then to hell

    • Stass2

      free speech is so 1980 haha… the most funny part about it is… what is free speech worth when nobody listens and the govt just does what they want to do?

    • http://twitter.com/Maximi89 Maximiliano Castañón

      OpenNIC is an alternative and free registry names… OpenNIC could be the future, and DotP2P… BIG PROJECT!, but the people need to know about this and use it… first use in the routers… or the computers…

  • Daniel

    America world police at it again. Shoot first, ask questions later. Blithering idiots.

    • Burma Pilot

      We’ve got quite the gang banger as prez

    • annonymous

      there’s a sign right off my main roar that says: “Should the police junge themselves when they kill? ” with a huge pistols barrel picture..its great

      • anony-mouse

        the guy who took those buildboards out in wisconsin is a nutjob. his kid was pulled over for being drunk and went for the cops guns. the family denied the kid ever did drugs or drank and now the site they have up says well the kid may have had problems but it was no reason for the police to pull him over. if you watch the squad car footage of the incident you can hear mike bell arguing and fighting the police.. kid got a 9mm to the brain like he needed. how dumb do you need to be to go after a cops gun

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Lee/673906638 Bob Lee

      Shoot first. Face class action lawsuit later …
      Luckily – government liability for interruptions in communication services is prosecutable. Start up your accounting engines for web site loss-of-earning calculations … Treble damages could sound really really nice to your attorneys. Best bet is to file the action in US Federal District 9 – California.

      • Donotreply

        Don’t forget to add to those damages something about damage to reputation (especially for small businesses that may have been affected by this questionable conduct). Being accused of distributing that kind of material is about as far as you can go for damaging someones reputation (especially a business with potential loss of customers/clients and income etc).

      • Anonymous

        I’m sorry, what? 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is the most liberal court in the states. They will *not* hear these cases unless they are in favor the domain seizure, which.. they are. The court system as a whole is corrupt, and the 9th Circuit is the most corrupt I can think of currently. You will not succeed if you file anything that goes against the actions of the DHS or ICE there.

        • Anonymous

          I think your use of the word “liberal” is incorrect. Maybe you mean oppressive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States

        • Robert H. Ballan, Atty

          Except for the assertion that the 9th Cir. Court of Appeals tends to be liberal, this is disinformation. No wonder the author want be ‘Anonymous.” The federal courts of appeal only hear appeals (surprise, surprise). The case would be tried in a federal district court. The loser then gets to appeal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UQFTKAFTLDZJ2PFFGQINTQK4ZY Sasha K

        Except that it’s the US government that did this – so the people who did it would not pay the money, but merely the taxpayers. Those responsible will probably be promoted.

        That’s what happens when, for instance, a cop shoots some innocent person – they sue, the court awards a judgment and, tralala, the taxpayers pay out millions of dollars.

      • Lynx

        The only problem suing the government is that WE (the people) are going to pay the bill either way.

  • Daniel

    America world police at it again. Shoot first, ask questions later. Blithering idiots.

  • Anonymous

    fuckers…

    • Anonymous

      Careful, saying that might get you shut down! :P

  • Anonymous

    fuckers…

  • http://driverdan.com Dan DeFelippi

    I hope the businesses that were impacted bring this to court and end this authoritarian practice.

    • Robin Hood

      84,000 sites? Sounds to me like a class action in waiting – it would certainly make it affordable for the average site owner to pursue.

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        That’s ^ precisely what I immediately thought of too guys :)

        And the US’s class action process is ideally suited (I think) for exactly these types of problems. If it were up to each individual affected site, I see them getting nowhere, but with a class action suit – that would indeed go a long, long way to getting these stupid fascists to start obeying the law and due process.

        Meanwhile the DoJ’s HS’s ICE gets a special banner all of its own -
        Epic FAIL!!!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NBNBKTIUN66FGZAJASTMWUDKNE JohnK

          I’d be all for a class action suit, if it weren’t for the fact that it would only result in a cash settlement, NOT coming from the perpetrators at ICE, but from the taxpayers. Meanwhile, the perpetrators would continue on in their cushy government jobs.

          Include some real, biting punishment for the people responsible. THAT I could really get behind.

        • Verthik

          It’s called a private commercial process, that places the agents responsible under their full commercial liability, for their prejudice and damnification of these people’s interests.

        • Chicago860

          Yeah – like that 30 years in prison for porno peddlers – apply it to the false accusers, too.

        • Huck Pituey

          While I agree 100% with your intent, you are making the mistaken assumption that losing a giant class action lawsuit will serve as some sort of a disincentive to further misbehavior. Unfortunately, the government will just use our tax dollars to pay the plaintiffs and then move on literally as though nothing happened.

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        That’s ^ precisely what I immediately thought of too guys :)

        And the US’s class action process is ideally suited (I think) for exactly these types of problems. If it were up to each individual affected site, I see them getting nowhere, but with a class action suit – that would indeed go a long, long way to getting these stupid fascists to start obeying the law and due process.

        Meanwhile the DoJ’s HS’s ICE gets a special banner all of its own -
        Epic FAIL!!!

      • Anonymous

        I agree. Class action lawsuit time. Trivially easy to define the class. Lawyers should be salivating.

        Unleash the laser sharks.

      • http://twitter.com/warrenwilkinson Warren Wilkinson

        They’re government. They would claim Soverign Immunity. But if you succeeded, the payout money would come from what they’ve taken from you in taxes and they’ll replace it with yet more taxes.

        • jason35962

          I think the more important goal of the class would be injunctive relief from this happening in the future.

        • Zaphod

          you don’t get it. injunctive relief implys the rule of law.

        • Zana Badu

          A successful outcome would be unrelated to any monetary damages awarded. The best result would be to test the legality of this kind of action and force it back into the judicial system to bring back at least a modicum of checks and balances and give the accused parties the opportunity to challenge potential domain seizure prior to this action taking place. It would protect the individual’s constitutional rights and also reduce the possibility of anything this heinous occurring again.

        • Jm123123

          I couldn’t have said it better. Totally agreed.

        • Publicstacey

          Yes, but it would alert other citizens what is happening. I”d rather pay it than give tacit approval of these actions.

    • Armada

      The sites impacted were all free subdomains, they don’t have the money for an own domain, let alone a lawsuit.

      • Boltie

        Together they do. That is the point.

      • Anonymous

        The beauty (?) of class actions is that the lawyers generally cover the costs, and then take nearly all the winnings. (They forgot to mention that part in Erin Brockovich — Julia should probably have been a little less smug.)

      • Rational1900

        That’s the standard bully procedure: it’s better to attack someone that can’t fight back.

      • Publicstacey

        Actually, if they are small businesses, they can show harm. Also, libel is still a crime…and the government libeled all these businesses and people.

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  • Harry Baells

    President Obama works for the MAFIA.

    • politux

      It became glaringly obvious when he appointed a former RIAA lawyer as his Solicitor General.

      Obama lost my vote that day.

      • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

        Amen.

        • Willbilson

          It took that to “lose your vote”? What kind of idiot are you? You VOTED for this guy?

        • politux

          I guess I’m a slow learner. I actually believed he wanted to make changes. Then he turned out to be another war escalating corporate tool.

        • Tony Montana

          Change!!! The change was for whatever was outside of his bubble. Obama and the government are exempted of any of their “change”. Just like we need free healthcare… I’d like to see him and the rest of congress in that waiting line. Like we really needed more spending, more lies, more taxes and a brick wall for transparency. And don’t get me started on the war…. LOL! I bet you feel the weight of voting him in now. People won’t understand far left politics until they live as a Communist. Ask anyone who has lived in Cuba under Fidel Castro.

        • Autonomous

          Rule one: Whoever you vote for, government wins.

        • politux

          I guess I’m a slow learner. I actually believed he wanted to make changes. Then he turned out to be another war escalating corporate tool.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TGZ75URQ6DKTCNXV3RV36ZKALQ Matthew

          I agree that there have been some anti-copyright rulings coming from the Obama administration. However, I feel pretty certain that things would be much worse with McCain in there. Just watch CPAC clips online where they say things such as “we should put more journalists in jail” to great applause. I don’t think Obama is perfect. However, he’s way better than the Republican alternative

        • Anonymous

          That’s rather like, while being beaten savagely by a thug, remarking that some other thug could perhaps beat you even worse. While you’re being beaten into the ground.

          What is WITH Obama voters? When will you realize that you’ve been had, that it’s just a repeat of the same old lie that Lenin and Stalin and Castro and all the rest used, recruit the students and free thinkers…and then shoot them in the back once they’ve been used to achieve a goal.

        • UpsetPoliticalGuy

          I rather be punched in the face than raped in the ass. We knew there was going to be lies and half-truths, because it happens with every politician. However, the herp derp ticket of McCain and Palin would have been worse on just about every front.

        • Autonomous

          Rule two: If voting really changed anything, do you honestly think they’d let us do it?

    • politux

      It became glaringly obvious when he appointed a former RIAA lawyer as his Solicitor General.

      Obama lost my vote that day.

    • Bob

      The mafia works for the people. If there’s demand for a service or product, they provide it. It’s in their best interest to see their customers doing well for themselves.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Green-Peace/100001607021374 Green Peace

        And I would rather owe money to the mob than the IRS. Then again if I am doing business with the mob I know I will get SOMETHING for my money. ;)

  • Violated

    Congratulations ICE. You just made 84000 cases of unlawful libel concerning a very disturbing subject.

    I would not be surprised if some of these people take court action but at least you soon realised and corrected this horrific mistake.

    This also highlights how the judge is blindfolded and simply signs what he is asked to.

    The process has now highlighted how errors can be made leading to highly questionable domain seizures.

    It would seem wise if the court hears such domain seizure requests that they should allow domain owners suitable time to contest and point out errors in ICE’s claim of wrongdoing.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NIJ2TTXGU6A4KROSIVFKSO4LD4 Targeted Individual

      I also think that anyone undergoing Gangstalking from the government’s lying snitch program should join a class action because they use the very same nasty tactics, but it is all secret, but for your neighborhood watch fools who are networked throughout the world. Secret databases of lies which you never know the true nature of. They just open an investigation and parole real criminals to stalk and report on innocent people. If they did that to dangerous people they know what would happen. That is why they pick on single women and vulnerable people without support networks. Nice!!! Classy America! Or, what should we now call ourselves? What would fit this new world. The USSA?!

      • ICE Blunder Revealing

        Hi, are there websites you recommend for talking about this ?

  • Violated

    Congratulations ICE. You just made 84000 cases of unlawful libel concerning a very disturbing subject.

    I would not be surprised if some of these people take court action but at least you soon realised and corrected this horrific mistake.

    This also highlights how the judge is blindfolded and simply signs what he is asked to.

    The process has now highlighted how errors can be made leading to highly questionable domain seizures.

    It would seem wise if the court hears such domain seizure requests that they should allow domain owners suitable time to contest and point out errors in ICE’s claim of wrongdoing.

  • FuckMPAA

    Another attack from copyright morons under the disguise of “save our children” bullshit!
    ICE’s real children = MPAA, RIAA and IFPI

  • FuckMPAA

    Another attack from copyright morons under the disguise of “save our children” bullshit!
    ICE’s real children = MPAA, RIAA and IFPI

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.kratz Jordan Kratz

    i hope some of these folks can sue the asses who are doing this BS

  • http://twitter.com/williamtm/ WilliamTM

    What kind of morons are in charge of domain seizures?!

    • Violated

      The only person we need to blame is Joe Biden when he told them to do this.

      The damage caused after he released the flying monkeys is besides the point.

  • Vhozard

    Better safe than sorry!

    • Marcus

      Troll

    • Ilian

      not troll just idiot

      • Marcus

        OK, Idiotic troll.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335845621 Mike Sulhoff

          “…FOR YOUR PROTECTION…”

        • Marcus

          “…FOR YOUR PROTECTION…”

          That phrase is used to justify almost every violation of out liberties.

        • Autonomous

          “Won’t someone please think of the children?!”

        • GreaseMonkey

          I agree, children get easily scared by those seizure notices.

    • Chicago860

      That’s just ridiculous and you must know it.

  • Momo

    These seizures are unconstitutional, and any judge who is signing the seizure orders needs to be disbarred and arrested.

    No due process. None. Zilch.

    Plus, Morton has a couple of interns do the dirty work (because the rest of them want to keep their jobs), and they’re just censoring random websites from the entire internet.

    And so what if they take child porn off the internet? Will that reduce child abuse, or just sweep it under the carpet?

    These people are useless. Waste of taxpayer money.

    • Bub

      It would absolutely reduce child abuse. Prior to the invention of the Internet by Al Gore, children were never abused, sexually or otherwise.

      • ICE MAFIAA Troll

        I agree. Before this monstrosity -known as the internet – was invented, children were safe. Thankfully, we have ICE to protect and defend our country.

        I’m also glad that they keep out the 30 million illegal immigrants who try and cross the border. Ha! Aliens stand no chance against ICE!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Green-Peace/100001607021374 Green Peace

        TOO True. And if we had had stricter gun control laws Cain would not have popped Able ;)

      • Ninja

        I honestly (but also figuratively) wet my pants with these comments.

        Tackling online CP ain’t doing a thing for real CP. Not that they shouldn’t be fighting the online portion but wtf, they are using CP to justify everything just like they did and do with terrorism.

        I can’t see how much better, morally speaking, is to use CP as an excuse to do comercial censoring. It’s despicable.

    • Anonymous

      US citizens should take a good look at Tunisia, Egypt, et al. and repeat as necessary.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/TGZ75URQ6DKTCNXV3RV36ZKALQ Matthew

        Did you see the scenes from the Wisconsin Capital? We have quite a history of peaceful protests in this nation, leading to great results for all. I hope that we continue with that tradition when things get out of hand.

    • Anonymous

      Got news for you. A federal judge in Florida just ordered Obamacare unconstitutional and, due that ruling, it MUST be halted till an appeal. It MUST. That’s the law.

      The administration…is ignoring the federal judge.

      The government is now completely out of control. “Unconstitutional”? They don’t care. Complain, and watch what happens to you.

      • Tater

        Ain’t the way it works. The government always seeks a stay pending appeal. Always have. Ain’t nothin new. Maybe you been listenin to too many radio talk shows.

  • T94xrnz

    I’d laugh if one of the websites affect was a childcare center! Devastating yet so ironic!

    • Boltie

      It would be funny but it would ruin the business completely. Even if people found out it was a mistake.

      Reputations are damaged so easily and are extremely hard to build (especially when it involves children).

      I really hope they all sue.

  • http://www.basbasbas.com/blog/ Bas

    I hope victims sue the gov’t for libel.

  • mc

    This is a real problem for the 84,000 affected, something that can and does destroy a business and personal reputation on the mere hint of involvement with that sort of thing. If this happened to me i would be *hopping* mad. I hope i smell a class action here.

    And operation “save our children”? Really? Really? Jesus christ, what Orwellian doublespeak. The use of children and the subject of child abuse to further crass political ends, i consider this to be child abuse in itself, in helping to perpetuate the insane culture of fear most western adults have towards kids these days, resulting in some very lonely children who dont know how to interact with adults or even each other properly anymore. Its all very sad indeed.

    But yeah this whole thing really is beyond the pale now from the DHS and especially ICE, which smacks of a department full of people trying to justify their jobs to me. And theres no better justification for absolutely ANYTHING that child protection is there.

    • anonymous

      “But you couldn’t possibly be against ‘Operation Save the Children’!!!”

    • Ninja

      Agreed. Save our children my @$$. While it is important to keep fighting CP it shouldn’t be used as a lame excuse for commercial censorship and above all, any seizure should be handled with care not to cause harm to innocent ppl. As you said, what they are doing is child abuse.

  • tehmetalleer

    I wonder how much money small business owners lost as a result of this? If I were one Or them I’d be trying to put a class action suit together. 3 days is a long time for a business to go without a site.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=734407035 Johann Quassowski

      This must have been the small business initative Obama was talking about, actually :P

  • Anonymous

    We, the American people, are the “morons in charge” of this. When will we decide that freedom of speech is guaranteed even if we don’t agree with what is being said?

    • Anonymous

      If you think the American people have ANY control over what their government, you are disillusioned my friend. Voting is double-rigged. Diebold voting machines to rig the actual numbers, then if the numbers are not in The Bilderberg Group’s & The Bohemian Club’s best interests from paper ballots, they have the Electoral College to bypass the numbers completely. Big business bought America long ago with their elitism bullshit.

      • MWatsekan

        The Electoral College is absolutely necessary. It prevents the more populous urban centers from completely ruling presidential elections. In 2010, Illinois proved the point. That state’s current governor won only THREE counties while the other guy won all of the rest. The other guy still lost. Chicago and its metropolitan area is all that’s really needed to gain power. The rest of the populace is SOL. If Illinois had an electoral college to even out the vote for governor geographically (as the USA does for presidential elections), Chicago would not rule the entire state. And we are all aware of Chicago’s rather “special” political ways, yes? I used to think like you about the Electoral College until this happened in my state. As a result of NOT having one at state level, we now have higher income and business taxes (both of which were already way too high) and ZERO reduction in the frivolous spending of which BOTH parties are guilty. I now understand the point of the EC. While not perfect, it does even out the playing field quite a bit.

        And let’s be honest, Frosty. The real elitists in the USA are the professors in our rather influential universities. They tend to work from untested and even failed political theories rather than the boring tried and true methods. Illinois has no recall and no EC setup. It has very few big businesses left. Nowadays, the biggest businesses in most areas (Chicago or otherwise) are the local hospitals, and that’s not good. If there’s only one choice, I would rather a government be influenced more by big business in Illinois than the Chicago political machine (which was and is based on organized crime). Pure democracy does not work, since those running for office can promise and even “buy off” enough populace through useless social policies to stay in power. Even the ancient Athenians learned that lesson…through military defeat and eventual governmental and societal collapse.

        • Derp

          So, you’re mad that a majority of the people who voted in the election voted for Quinn . . . and he won? Your solution to this problem is to somehow enable the person who gets less votes to win? That worked out great with Bushy, right? Basically, you want to weight the vote of rural votes more heavily, which is a terrible idea.

      • AntyParanoic

        Yeah, right. And you have NWO psychosis. You should go see psychiatrist.

    • Anonymous

      Indeed these are the representatives of the American people. The US citizens voted that these people should lead them and talk on their behalf.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dtobias Daniel Tobias

    I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know all the legalities involved, but is it possible to sue the government for libel in such a case? Or do they have “sovereign immunity” to get out of it?

    • MWatsekan

      At one time, yes – but thanks to the Patriot Act, no more. While the USA still holds dearly to the principle that individuals in government are not above the law, we are now faced with the stone cold fact that the PA has effectively immunized government INSTITUTIONS. Bush II did the PA, Obama continues and expands its use. All-in-all, even a class action would fail because these unjustified, “accidental” actions are not specifically ordered by specific individuals.

      This is how freedom dies.

      • Dingo_RG

        You sound as a stupid and obedient sheep.

        The patriot act is unconstitutional, because this violates due process… period. Any government or law can’t be above of the constitution, unless submissive people as you allow it.

        I seriously think that you, the USA americans, must follow the examples of Tunez and Egypt, and there exist a lot of reasons for this.

  • Galis1908

    No sympathy for anyone.
    we have been blind, deaf, and morons, we let the situation get out of control and now we are filled with rage, anger complaints. Pfff.
    When few people many years ago were screaming about all these we called them ‘crazy’ etc.
    we are pwnd.

  • Galis1908

    No sympathy for anyone.
    we have been blind, deaf, and morons, we let the situation get out of control and now we are filled with rage, anger complaints. Pfff.
    When few people many years ago were screaming about all these we called them ‘crazy’ etc.
    we are pwnd.

  • Anonymous

    The cause is a , good and just mission. No one can moraly deny that.
    Operation Save Our Children should be supported througout the world.

    However :
    ICE’s Cyber Crimes Center – Should be sued by the 84,000 site owners for their incompetance.
    The negative effect on those site owners business , family and personal life is massive.

    Also.. We have to question “ICE’s Cyber Crimes Center ” priorities.
    Go after CP.. which is a just cause.. Should be prority number 01. ( yet if its a main priority , the stupid mistake of effecting 84,000 inocent site owners would NEVER have happened)
    Or are the priorities to do what the “maffia” + “ira” tell them to do ? Which , let’s face it , seems like the main priority of ICE’s Cyber Crimes Center.
    Going after CP seems to be a way of validating ANY action that it will ever do.

    a good example of this is THiS……
    84,000 inocent site owners being publicly , exactly Stated as being CP site adims.
    but that is OK.. the media will think so anyways… The only important thing is 10 CP sites had their domains siezed.

    See… going after CP… is a licence to commit murder.

  • Anonymous

    Personally I cannot really see what is wrong with child pornography. “Fighting” it is actually just a good pretext for censoring the net.

    • maxi

      You cannot really see what is wrong with child pornography? You better be trollin’!

    • maxi

      You cannot really see what is wrong with child pornography? You better be trollin’!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      You’re comment is one of the most dumbest, idiotic, crass and offensive statements I’ve read in a long time.

      If you genuinely can’t see what’s wrong with it, perhaps it’s best you don’t see at all.

    • Anonymous

      CP is a double-edged sword. Imagine a pedophile in your neighborhood with no child porn. You think they’ll just sit around with blueballs? No. That feeling is going to build up inside until they hurt a child, and that’s if they have the recognition that it is immoral & don’t act on EVERY urge.

      But at the same time it is victimizing children. Not only the children depicted in the pornography, but it creates a demand for more children to be hurt. And it is socially irresponsible to leave people exposed to such a things as it could potentially create more pedophiles…

      In my opinion, the cons outweigh the pros, as long as we have strict laws & relentless sentencing for sexual abuse of children.

      • Dragorth

        The real problem is that America has been on a witch hunt for the last 30yrs over “child abuse”. My siblings and I were victims of physical abuse, but the mental abuse by the DHS system has had just as bad of consequences. My step-father was in jail for several months, and while he was in jail, my sister’s school conselor would ask her DAILY if my stepfather had come to the house. The man was in jail!!!
        My sister finally just started telling them yes, as that was what they wanted to hear, which prompted almost daily visits from DHS to our house, traumatizing our whole family.
        The face of this witch hunt has been child molesters, and the media wants to put them away for longer and longer. The problem with this is that sex offenders are the second least likely to reoffend once released from prison, according to every government study ever documented. That includes the study that lasted 30yrs!! The reoffence rate is between 3-9%, while those most likely to reoffend, drug offenders, are 90-97% as likely to reoffend,
        We need to stop being mis-directed by our government!!! We are the ones that they are supposed to represent.

        • Ninja

          Shiet man, daily? Like your sister was daily reminded of what she had endured? That’s sick.

        • Ninja

          Shiet man, daily? Like your sister was daily reminded of what she had endured? That’s sick.

      • Anon

        Actually, I think that child porn, cp to make it short, definition is too broad. A 15-16 yr old is not a child anymore, she has curves, developed boobs and can reproduce just fine and that’s actually the best time to bear a child, biologically speaking. And wow, they have sex with their boyfriends, and vice-versa mind you. The issue maybe, is that we have created an invisible security wall around them that prevents their maturing, along with an artificial 18 yr-old minimum limit that states they are not adults till that age.
        The problem here is when the child, the real child not the 15 yr olds, is hurt during the process, morally and physically, and is doing it forced by some adult. That’s a problem.
        I’m not sure how to express what I’m thinking. In no ways I support cp but i think there are less children than we think in those so-called cp sites. But we have a problem in cp definitions. And we have a problem on how cp is being used as an excuse for other goals, closing down inconvenient sites, just like porn in China. And ultimately we have a problem on how carefully the people behind the seizures are working in order not to cause false positives and harm reputations and morals.
        I’d say that what ICE did is as wrong as the cp itself.

      • Anon

        Actually, I think that child porn, cp to make it short, definition is too broad. A 15-16 yr old is not a child anymore, she has curves, developed boobs and can reproduce just fine and that’s actually the best time to bear a child, biologically speaking. And wow, they have sex with their boyfriends, and vice-versa mind you. The issue maybe, is that we have created an invisible security wall around them that prevents their maturing, along with an artificial 18 yr-old minimum limit that states they are not adults till that age.
        The problem here is when the child, the real child not the 15 yr olds, is hurt during the process, morally and physically, and is doing it forced by some adult. That’s a problem.
        I’m not sure how to express what I’m thinking. In no ways I support cp but i think there are less children than we think in those so-called cp sites. But we have a problem in cp definitions. And we have a problem on how cp is being used as an excuse for other goals, closing down inconvenient sites, just like porn in China. And ultimately we have a problem on how carefully the people behind the seizures are working in order not to cause false positives and harm reputations and morals.
        I’d say that what ICE did is as wrong as the cp itself.

  • mt11

    Stupid basterds.

  • Shamon

    84,000 sites? Stupid, unbelievably idiotic retards! How the FUCK is that possible?

    Someone needs to file a lawsuit. I hope they do.

  • Anon

    This is “Noble” initiative with disaster, agreed with Ernesto. It´s like Gunship shooting reporter and kids, they call it “collateral” damage… good or bad damage?

  • dlj

    That was it, I am not getting anymore US based domains or online services for me, and during the year I will move my personal domains to non-US controlled TLD’s, and I will even search for a new hosting, regardless of how much do I like my current one =/

    No, I don’t have anything “questionable” online, but I don’t like their government to have that kind of control over things that I live of. Add that to the media industry boicot.

  • synonymous

    “Even at the time of writing people can still replicate the effect by adding “74.81.170.110 mooo.com” to their hosts file as the authorities have not dropped the domain pointer yet.”

    If you type “74.81.170.110 torrentfreak.com” into your hosts file, does that mean authorities haven’t dropped that domain pointer yet either? hosts files have nothing to do with ‘domain pointers.’

    • El Dopa

      You don’t understand. When you visit 74.81.170.110 in a browser, you get a copyright infrigement warning. When you add mooo.com to the hosts-file and then visit mooo.com in a browser, you get the CP warning. Conclusion: mooo.com is still flagged for CP in their hosting database, they only restored the DNS pointers.

      PS: I’m not arguing about the correctness of the ‘domain pointer’ phrase, but that’s what they’re trying to say …

  • Anonymous

    How about “Operation F*ck the Children”?

  • Mawnkey

    Operation “Save our children, fuck everyone else.”

  • http://dguaraglia.myopenid.com/ David

    Is anyone else appalled by the name of the operation? “Protect Our Children”? Is that doublespeak or what? Is it 1984 already??? FFS

    • Violated

      “Protecting the children” is the morally lowest reason organizations usually evoke to try and justify their questionable projects.

      They aim to prey on ancient human fears of monsters at the door wanting to eat their babies.

      Most of us can see it for what it is namely a questionable project trying to survive.

      It is just a shame this operation is unlikely to achieve anything major when all affected sites can be back up quickly. A case of trying to do something but actually achieving nothing.

      And you’re paying for this.

  • fail

    Idiots… FAIL AGAIN!

  • http://www.facebook.com/giulioprisco Giulio Prisco

    This time they have really made fool of themselves, but unfortunately ridiculous will not be enough to stop them. I really hope there will be a class of action and tens of thousands of people will sue for libel.

  • Johnny

    Shoot first, ask questions laters. Typical American cowboys. They should stick to herding cattle.

    Being unjustly accused of carrying child porn on your site, is libel to the highest degree, not to mention very damaging for your reputation! I hope some people will get huge settlements out of this, just to teach these incompetent f*ckers at ICE a lesson….

    • Anonymous

      Yeah how can Europe for example let such undemocratic people play internet police? There is not even an innocent until proven guilty by a court of law here… How can you claim to be a better person if you don’t stick to the law yourself?

    • Jon7272

      true just ask the ozzies in vietnam who they were afraid of being shot by just walk beside or behind an american. friendly fire if you happen to be in front

      • RandomArrow

        Bullsh*t,

        I was a US Combat Engineer and worked closely with troops from the Land of Oz.
        You guys were not only highly respected and admired but you were the only troops who had access to decent whiskey. Can’t count the times I traded some engineer equipment usage for a case of Australia’s finest for my troops. We could always count on you guys in combat, no problem or jealousness there. How very unlike the ARVN who “positioned themselves” behind us prior to to reporting Charlie in front of us. And I still remember the amazing R&R I spent in Sydney. You Aussies certainly are blessed with beautiful women.

        So tell me Jon7277 were you ever in combat in Nam or are you just bowing smoke out your a$$?

        Charlie Company
        1ST Engineer Bn. (Combat)
        Third Brigade, 1ST Infantry Division
        Lai Khe, Vietnam
        1967 – 1968

    • None

      They are herding cattle.

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  • Angi

    Meanwhile, Child porn was declared legal last year by the United Nation.

    Scotland’s opening up internet pornography to school children at lunch break thanks to the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, currently un-ratified by the repressed USA.

    The U.N. “child rights” includes conditioning children to “consensual” prostitution and pornography, and the “right” to be used by any scoundrel they “chose.” Protesting parents risk jail or the loony bin.

    Countries with legal prostitution or pornography and younger “age of adulthood,” can sell legal child prostitution/pornography. “Rights” authors know adulthood may become any age, depending on the age of the partner(s). Spain’s age of consent is now 13, pornography legal and prostitution effectively legal.

    Read more: U.N. legalizes child porn, prostitution http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=198989#ixzz1E8mkhONl

    Article 13 is the pornography access act: “The child shall have the right to freedom of expression … [to] receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child’s choice.”

    So a Scottish pedophile educator organizes access to “all” media for any age, one to 18. Free “expression … regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media,” it’s a child’s choice.

    Article 15 gives children of any age “freedom of association and to freedom of peaceful assembly. No restrictions may be placed on the exercise of these rights” if they are legal and don’t violate public safety, etc. It is illegal for parents to stop children from bad actions, etc. Billions can be made via these child “protective” articles.

    Read more: U.N. legalizes child porn, prostitution http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=198989

    So the US shuts down 84k sites only to try to shut down 10, meanwhile the law was passed last year (above) that the sites are legal and so the us has no grounds for siezure/raids/etc.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child does NOT allow a signatory Nation-State to pass laws permitting child porn.

      Keep taking the tablets, dear!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child does NOT allow a signatory Nation-State to pass laws permitting child porn.

      Keep taking the tablets, dear!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child does NOT allow a signatory Nation-State to pass laws permitting child porn.

      Keep taking the tablets, dear!

    • Anonymous

      If the age of consent in a country is 13 (with someone of their own age…) that means that it is not child pornography there. As that is the law there (no matter how you personally feel about that).

      The article refers to another article where of children being given access to the health board’s sexual health Web pages from school computers. (Sexual education online…)

      Than the idiot who wrote it starts to imply this (the sexual education) is conditioning children to “consensual” prostitution and pornography… And goes further in mixing sexual education in the same dirt hole as child pornography. With their own conceded idea that their countries laws are the only right laws.

      The author has managed to misinterpret all articles she based this on. And i could understand people who want to put her, quote: “in jail or the loony bin.”

  • Guest224

    DUE PROCESS YOU FUCKING PARASITES

    • Eloh

      Apparently, a judge’s signature for a warrant is due process for ICE. =

      • None

        Warrant? Wtf are you talking about? Lol…

  • Johnny

    Quote:
    “DHS is committed to working with our law enforcement partners to shut down websites that promote child pornography to protect these children from further victimization,” she added.

    Not a single child pornographer found or caught. Not a single computer seized with such material. Yeah the children are really safe. This is all about pretending to do something, instead of actually doing something.

  • Kdj

    Wow fuck our government…I’m so glad our children are safe…until they turn on the TV so they can get brainwashed by corporations

  • http://www.facebook.com/giulioprisco Giulio Prisco

    Re “Not a single child pornographer found or caught. Not a single computer seized with such material. Yeah the children are really safe. This is all about pretending to do something, instead of actually doing something.”

    Of course, the real objective is to find pretexts to revoke civil freedom and turn the US and other Western nations into police states. We all know that. And unfortunately they _are_ doing something.

  • Vibrator

    well i say every site should now sue since thats what they like to do why not

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R27RJRETC5QDVMZTITCMUA6SQQ Janus Beliren

    They are attacking our freedom.

    They are using anti-pornography as a justification to crack down against free information. It is their strategy to combat the freedom the internet has given to all of us.

    FIGHT SUPPRESSION, FIGHT ANY GOVERNMENT WORKING AGAINST THEIR OWN PEOPLE!

  • None

    /facepalm

    These are the same mongoloids who run the TSA, and they’re also the ones who built that fence along the mexican border that two girls climbed up last month within 30 seconds.
    Tax dollars well spent!

  • Yourname

    Yes. I hope they sue and I hope we (you know the taxpayers that fund the government) pay them millions of dollars! How about they get a formal apology and seek restitution for damages actually incurred, instead this “I’m a victim of an abhorrent crime, the government is trying to silence my voice! FREE SPEECH! FREEDOM!” bullsh!t. Yeah, it was an accident- one that likely didn’t cost these small business owners any money at all, yet it’s some kind of grave injustice. Puh-lease.

    • First Name

      Okay how about we give you a business to run and tell people for 6 days that you’re a child pornographer. Let’s see how many sales you get.

    • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

      You are clearly an idiot.

  • Foff

    As long as their are men/boys with a p#nis child porn will exist but it will always be distasteful to most normal human beings. Domain seizures seem a useless and futile attempt to enforce anything. What hasn’t been answered to me is how long are these sites seized? Taken to the extreme the US government will eventually be in control of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of websites. What will they do with them?

    • http://myindigolives.wordpress.com/ Ellie K

      First of all, I seriously doubt that there are hundreds of thousands of websites offering child pornography. And I don’t think the issue here is the overloading of the U.S. government with porn websites!

    • Ninja

      I’ve never stumbled upon CP on the net. I was curious once if it was that easy and it isn’t (obviously I’d send whatever to the authorities, I’m not some sort pedo heh). The point is, real cp is hidden among secure ftps or hubs that only trusted pedos know where and how to access. So yeah, there’s no need for some law giving govts infinite power to tackle CP, our current laws are enough, with the usual legal steps, not some unconstitutional seizure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MacAaron Aaron Turpen

    Sue for the entirety of the DHS budget and shut down those a-holes. They’ve been nothing but a waste of money and a boondoggle since GW started them.

    • Anonymous

      Yes. That’ll work.

  • Just4chris12

    Good thing I left before that. I moved to CovertHosting.com just in time

  • Anonymous

    If they really cared about stopping child porn, they’d use the middlemen to track down the people making it, instead of just shutting down the middlemen and letting the ones making it get off scot-free.
    DHS is either incompetent or accomplices. In either case, they’re not fit to protect the peoples’ interests.

    • Eloh

      Yes, the middlemen don’t need the internet to distribute this shit. Also, they don’t need centralized methods of distribution (e.g. websites).

    • Eloh

      Yes, the middlemen don’t need the internet to distribute this shit. Also, they don’t need centralized methods of distribution (e.g. websites).

  • Visitor

    If your business was so important, why would you host your important site using a FREE DNS service? There’s always a clause in the Terms of Service that doesn’t hold them accountable for the DNS going down. Therefore, any such lawsuit from the companies using the DNS service has an uphill climb on getting money from this error.

    Here is their TOS:

    FreeDNS.afraid.org reserves the right to remove any user provided records that comes to its attention and that it believes, in its sole discretion, is illegal, obscene, indecent, defamatory, incites racial or ethnic hatred or violates the rights of others… If it is brought to the attention of FreeDNS.afraid.org that a DNS record violates the Terms and Conditions, that record and/or account will be suspended.

    FreeDNS.afraid.org makes no representations concerning the suitability, reliability, or accuracy of the Content or the service provided on the Service for any purpose. We disclaim all warranties, expressed or implied, in connection with the Content and the services provided on the Service, including conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, title and non-infringement. In no case will we be liable for any direct, indirect, punitive, special or other damages including, without limitation, lost or delay of use, lost profits, loss of data, or any other damage in contract, tort, equity, or any other legal theory, even if advised of the possibility thereof.

    Because some states/jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages, this limitation may not apply in part to you. IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH ANY PORTION OF THIS WEB SERVICE, OR WITH ANY OF THESE TERMS OF USE, YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY IS TO DISCONTINUE USING THIS WEB SERVICE.

    • piranha

      This isn’t the about it going “down” … There’s page that people now get redirected to a site that says “HI THESE PEOPLE WERE TAKING PART IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES”. Quite a difference.

      Sure, it’s probably best to use their own domain, but that doesn’t make it okay for the GOVERNMENT to do something like this.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P7FPN5OKQF2BQUHPGSQ2UN3FCA Dave Bilsland

      While this probably covers the web providers tail, it does nothing to absolve ICE or HS of civil OR criminal behavior. Rights have clearly been violated – reputations have been utterly devastated!

  • AM_Gov_Hate

    THIS is why this fucking shit is supposed to go though court!!! To keep our FUCKING DUMBASS GOV… From shutting down sites without reason…

    STUPID FUCKERS!

  • Joe

    Not all subdomains point to websites. My own are pointing to nameservers for my second-level domains, so I don’t have to use glue records. The DHS actually shot way more than 84.000 sites off the web.

    Thank god, nameservers cannot display “seized due to child-porn” messages, so my other domains just became unconnected.

  • stupid ass ross

    I’ll slap an ICE agent with my big old grey sausage and nutsack!

  • stupid ass ross

    I’ll slap an ICE agent with my big old grey sausage and nutsack!

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      EEEeeeewwwwww, wtf is it grey?
      Have you not been feeding it regularly?

  • http://twitter.com/wizardgynoid Wizard Gynoid

    i have one question. what does child pornography on websites have to do with Homeland Security? only obliquely, could you argue that it does. this is overstepping their charter and a dangerous and ominous precedent to be setting. the only redeeming aspect of this incident is that they accomplished it so badly.

  • http://twitter.com/wizardgynoid Wizard Gynoid

    i have one question. what does child pornography on websites have to do with Homeland Security? only obliquely, could you argue that it does. this is overstepping their charter and a dangerous and ominous precedent to be setting. the only redeeming aspect of this incident is that they accomplished it so badly.

    • None

      Business as usual. Someone gave them an inch and they took a mile, and we all paid for it. What else were you expecting?

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  • Trasherbasher

    epic fail?

  • Anonymous

    Watch this, explains it all: http://cleanternet.org/

  • Anonymous

    Watch this, explains it all: http://cleanternet.org/

  • Trasherbasher

    epic fail?

  • Sdfadsfsdfsd

    mooo.com seems to be hosting a wikileaks mirror here:

    http://newworld.mooo.com/

    Is this connected to the closure by any chance?

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  • Slickmagic

    This is what generally happens. People in position stamp on the small guys. Eventually they get so pissed off they take a gun and kill people. We all thenact surprised and start asking “what just hapened?” Anger is a time bomb. Eventually someone somewhere gonna explode..

  • Ahem

    To run the agency costs tax dollars, and to sue them would cost tax dollars. The only real losers here are you and me, they get a paycheck every two weeks regardless.

    • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

      How about a lawsuit pushing for more than just financial compensation? How about criminal charges? Resignations? Regulation changes? Or is that too much to ask for in our fascist corporatacracy?

  • Notvalid

    Constitution out the window again… DUE PROCESS is one our fundamental rights… Without DUE PROCESS they can just throw us all in jail and figure it out later…

  • Notvalid

    Constitution out the window again… DUE PROCESS is one our fundamental rights… Without DUE PROCESS they can just throw us all in jail and figure it out later…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K4YXPDBRD6STHVWZLMNSZINMGA ArtInExile

    Those of you who want a big class action lawsuit against the government – let’s say the government waives sovereign immunity and the suit wins a huge judgment. Who do you think pays for that judgment? Do you think the Government has an insurance policy against stupid employees?

  • Carl mayo

    The same folks wish to direct your healthcare. Are you worried yet?

  • Gonzo

    So this is what DHS is doing with their time and resources instead of securing the borders…

    • None

      Google for the video of the two girls who scaled the border in 30 seconds for lulz.

  • Will Thomas

    As a retired boy scout leader I’m happy to say that my life totally changed for the better when I opened up my adult book store. Shame people still rely on the internet for porn….sigh

  • Will Thomas

    As a retired boy scout leader I’m happy to say that my life totally changed for the better when I opened up my adult book store. Shame people still rely on the internet for porn….sigh

  • Detroitjoe

    oh sure, and now they want an internet kill switch… sounds like a great idea….

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  • Tans

    .gov needs to be shutdown!!

  • John C

    The concept of chastity, that is the idea that one can be diminished or degraded by only a look or a touch, is a treasured staple for righteous hate-filled insane peabrains in all parts of the world. With this tool they can stone you, burn you alive, or put you away for thirty years.

  • David

    The idiots used “Google” and searched “ch!ld sex”
    Google displayed 84,000 websites found .
    Then the feds just printed all the names found by google and obtained warrants and shut them down.
    Listen folks,we have Marxist children in charge.
    Nothing good will ever come out of this.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4P7NG6A55BA4CLGBJ2Y2ARCKVQ Motorhead

    Welcome to the Obama administration!
    SEC now immune from FOIA, internet wiretaps made easier, executive order used to assassinate Americans overseas, Gitmo still open, secret wiretaps still on, lobbyists, corporations and special interests still have unimpeded access to members of Congress, continuation of the war in Iraq and the expansion of the war into Pakistan and Yemen, bills passed in the dead of night on weekends and holidays in order to hide them from the public, warrantless government monitoring of private citizens’ credit cards transactions, continued hiring of military contractors, FCC takeover of the internet, allow law enforcement to place homing beacons on vehicles without a warrant, DHS using drones to spy on US citizens, DHS allowed to seize and shut down websites that sell knockoff handbags in the interest of ‘national security’, support of the internet kill switch.
    How do you feel about voting for hope and change now?

    • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

      This has nothing to do with Obama himself. The current ICE under Homeland Security was created under GWBush, and has been acting out of control for years. Similarly with the rest of complaints you mention. They’re more a result of our political “elite” regardless of party, and things like the PATRIOT act.

      • FuzzyDuck

        Yeah right. Obama made lots of promises, but once in power he took the powers GW Bush had and EXPANDED them. At least Bush was honest about what he wanted and did. Obama says one thing and does another. His actions unfortunately are no better than GW Bush, but Obama is so good at lying (Bush sucked at that) that people don’t even realize they are being lied to.

        Bradley Manning has been locked up in solitary confinement and is being psychologically tortured for 8 months already. Obama could stop that, yet he doesn’t. I can only conclude that he supports the use of torture under his administration. Didn’t Obama say he was against torture? How do you explain what is happening to Bradley in any other way than the fact that Obama LIED!

        If any of this shit had gone down in the Bush era, the comments here would be filled with anti-Bush statements. Why Obama is somehow immune to such criticism is beyond me.

        And that bozo got a f*cking Nobel Peace Prize. What a joke!

        • Anonymous

          Bush was NOT honest. He was just less subtle and his “tells” were obvious.

          He was a lying, deceptive shitbag but his body language told us when he was lying (he’d tell a lie at a press conference,etc.. and immediately his eyes would shift around the audience to see whether they were buying it.)

          That said, Obama’s no better, he’s smarter, he’s more subtle, but he’s a Goldman-Sachs funded asshole that goes around appointing JP Morgan staff and other thieving bastards to his administration.

        • FuzzyDuck

          I wasn’t quite clear, I meant Bush was honest about wanting to go to war and being able to torture suspects. Obama says he’s opposed to these things, but he does them anyway.

        • FuzzyDuck

          I wasn’t quite clear, I meant Bush was honest about wanting to go to war and being able to torture suspects. Obama says he’s opposed to these things, but he does them anyway.

  • fritiz kratz

    & you don’t believe the govt asses are in control? what are you drinking?

  • Arminius

    Any competent DNS Engineer would detect a problem when ordered to shut down free DNS.

    In the meantime we need just one nasty sleazy heighly effective member of the tort bar to take the case for about 40%. 84,000 X 1,000,000 = 84 billion. 33.6 billion to the lawyer.

    Of course they may be able to extend soverign immunity to malicious behavior or complete incompetence. If so let the government stand up and say so.

  • Rem

    Welcome to the Obamanation.

    • http://www.google.com/profiles/108037014675127192334 Binary

      Obama isn’t the ICE.

      • Anonymous

        “Obama isn’t the ICE.”
        WTF does that mean? Who do you think ICE is? Who controls ICE?
        Are you really that stupid or did you make an entire sentence into a typo?

        • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

          He isn’t. ICE was created by George W. Bush, and they were out of control many years ago. This is just their latest trick.

        • FuzzyDuck

          OBAMA FUCKING NOMINATED JOHN MORTON!

          Do your research (ya know it took me 10 seconds on Google to find this shit):
          http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1235438666428.shtm

          “President Obama announced today his intention to nominate John Morton to be the Assistant Secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano named Esther Olavarria as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy.”

          “John Morton and Esther Olavarria are tremendous additions to our Homeland Security team.”

          Yeah what a swell guy this Mr Moron, I mean Morton, fully endorsed by the Obama administration…

        • FuzzyDuck

          OBAMA FUCKING NOMINATED JOHN MORTON!

          Do your research (ya know it took me 10 seconds on Google to find this shit):
          http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1235438666428.shtm

          “President Obama announced today his intention to nominate John Morton to be the Assistant Secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano named Esther Olavarria as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy.”

          “John Morton and Esther Olavarria are tremendous additions to our Homeland Security team.”

          Yeah what a swell guy this Mr Moron, I mean Morton, fully endorsed by the Obama administration…

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MOJ44SAZFUHGHQDITRJJJCGCLQ Riggs

    Totally wild man….wowza.

  • Anonymous

    Filthy. Maggot. Pigs.

    May they rot in hell for what they have done to this country!

    • None

      What would our founding fathers, the writers of the constitution and put on our money’s pictures, have to say about us?

  • Justanaverageguy

    Hi all,
    I was one of the vendors that was caught in one of the shutdowns. 1 year later the aftermath is:
    1) Every other business owner that tried to bring their case was laughed at by the federal judge who heard the case.
    2) My 300 client websites were down for about 4 weeks, and because this was a federal government action the insurance companies will not cover this under business continuity insurance.
    3) Once the government shut down the sites it turned around and sued the ISP for the “work” they had to do in shutting down the ISP. (Yes, please read that again.) They sued the ISP for $1,080,000.00.
    4) They, the government, then sold all the servers (assets) of the ISP and claimed themselves as first in line for the money.

    What, you ask did they do with the money? Well, we are seeing more and more shutdowns and government agencies jumping on the take-down band wagon. Also, we were also accused of the same “child pornography” issue. After they scanned all 300 of my customer sites they said, nope, not you. Thanks for playing.

    I know it is easy for many of you to say “Class Action Law Suit!” but the stark reality of the matter is, and yes, we hired a lawyer, is that the CALs are started with a retainer, not on a “pay if you win” basis. So, yes, there can be a group, but someone has to put up the initial $15,000 to $25,000 retainer. And, the fun part, the government has nearly unlimited to funds to fight you, and it will take, potentially, years to get to a win/loose decision.

    So, the decision point for us was: get our customer’s sites back in 4 weeks or fight the government for years with little hope of winning or getting our client sites back up.

    The problem is it is easy to show the bravado of saying you will “fight the power” but when YOUR business is on the line, it is YOUR paycheck and YOU that has to fight, it changes things.

    Just wanted to share some real-world experiences.

    (End result, I lost about $124,000 in revenue, lost business, lawyers and overtime paid to get my client sites back up and running.)

    Good luck all.

    • http://www.google.com/profiles/108037014675127192334 Binary

      That’s horrible.

    • http://my-view.myopenid.com/ Kayhan Urzturk

      Despite the truth to what you wrote, I do hope someone starts a huge class action lawsuit against ICE and slaps them silly. Not only is what they are doing completely wrong, but it will be totally ineffective and hugely harmful in the long run.

      If the feds keep abusing the existing DNS system this way, “black market” or “underground” DNS systems will spring up but without the reliability and reputation and trust of the existing system. And that will result in LESS ability for law enforcement to catch people and MORE opportunities for internet crime.

      Example: one of the most comment pieces of advice given now for avoiding phishing attacks is to be sure to go directly to the URL of, for example, your bank, rather than clicking on some random link. But if there are dozens of DNS systems out there of varying trustability, how long before someone hacks the system you are using to point your bankofamerica.com URL at their phishing site? And that’s just perhaps the most obvious attack.

    • Violated

      What a class action lawsuit should aim for is…

      A. A large group out of these 84000.
      B. Good publicity.
      C. The support of organizations supporting a fair and free Internet.
      D. Legal sponsorship from richer people or companies who want to see ICE lose and ideally end their crazy operation.

      Then just sit back and watch the fireworks.

    • DocGerbil100

      I clicked the like button. I can’t honestly say I actually do “like” what you’ve told us, as such, but I want you to know I do appreciate you taking the time to share your experience. You have my sympathy. Clearly and obviously, there’s more to class actions than just winding up the nearest lawyer and letting him loose on the system. Having said that, if 84,000 people can’t find 30 cents each for that retainer, I’d be very surprised.

      There is certainly a clear and present need to do so. Just to be clear, I know very little of ICE – Wikipedia proved to be useless here, the relevant article containing nothing controversial, just a curious mix of press-release facts and wide-eyed glorification, finished off with a semi-fetishistic section on the guns they use. IP seizures merit a grand total of one single line.

      ICE’s record, however, increasingly speaks for itself as one of spectacular incompetence, visible across the planet. Given that they clearly have a problem with correctly identifying offending sites – and that they have had this problem for a substantial period of time – there is no excuse at all for not placing more neutrally-worded notices of temporary seizure, pending more detailed investigations and proper confirmation, instead of plastering patently false, libelous messages over the websites of hundreds of thousands of innocent victims.

      That they have not fixed this already shows that the ICE is not being run properly, either at the level of it’s computer crimes division or it’s senior management, all of whom bear responsibility for making sure things like this don’t happen. If I were a US politician, I would see this as good evidence that ICE may be fundamentally unfit for the purpose for which it was built.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        ICE is basically our border patrol. In other circles, it seems ICE has been reluctant to actually “fight” piracy because they’re going after it similar to drug seizures. The problem is internet piracy (along with child pornography) don’t play by the same rules as tangible property takedowns.

        If you know the IP address of the site you want, you can still find it. The main problem has been that the law (with the COICA) hasn’t been cooperating to make this as “effective” as it could be.

        If the ICE could go after the original posters, and maybe not bloggers, or video streaming sites, of child porn, we might support a takedown after an adversarial hearing.

        As it stands, they’re wasting time and tax dollars to look important in what I would deem “Intellectual Property theater”.

    • Anonymous

      First, you are stupid to run a business in the feminized, nanny-state US today (this isn’t your fathers “free” country anymore). You are no longer free. And the longer you continue to deny this fact, the more money you will lose….

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  • Michael Oberndorf, RPA

    I hope the people wrongly smeared in this sue the —- out of Butch Napolitano and Homeland Security.

  • TheRMSDave

    I thought ICE was out of resources and that’s why Illegal aliens roam Amerika at will. Lookie here!

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  • curious

    At least they are trying, child porn is a serious crime and more regulation is needed on the net to control it and protect the children. Mistakes happen, hopefully they won’t give up.

    • DocGerbil100

      The “child porn is a serious crime” part of your post, I agree with, but on current evidence, “they” are clearly not up to the job of controlling it. I also find it difficult to imagine what “more regulation” would do against the already-highly-illegal child-porn peddlers. I do not find it difficult to imagine great misuse of those regulations.

      • Anonymous

        If you want to see misuse of regulations then this seizure law without trial was created with the aim of seizing the property of drug lords who could not be proved guilty in court. Understandable but very open to abuse it seems.

        Then I am quite sure that US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) have much better things to do than get involved in copyright disputes and rather pointless domain seizures.

        I can also promise you if not contained this situation would soon expand until the United States tries forcing many of its laws and policies on the rest of the world.

    • Ninja

      Control the internet? Seriously? Would you let me read all your mail, listen to all your phone calls and watch you daily to make sure you aren’t a pedo? I don’t think so. That’s what you just proposed.

    • Sheamus

      “Mistakes happen…”

      If they “mistakenly” came and posted a big notice on your front door for a few days saying you were distributing child porn, you’d sing a different tune.

    • Anonymous

      No, it isn’t a ‘serious crime’. Pedosexuality and child pornography is the new boogie man created in order to take the place of heterosexuality out of marriage, homosexuality, and blacks having sex with whites as a boogie man.

      The fact is that 99% of all child/adult sexual encounters are CONSENSUAL, speaking as a person who had a lot of them as a child and was nearly raped 2 times at 12 by people HIS OWN AGE and YOUNGER than him.

      It’s time to stop making these people out to be a danger. The true danger is the stereotyping and hyping up of the hysteria surrounding them, mainly created by people who think that children are not supposed to be having sex when we are BORN WITH GENITALS and no force field between their genitals and anyone else’s, which nature/’god’ would have put into place if he/she/it wanted us to be celibate until 18.

      Hell, nature would have made us WITHOUT genitals until 18 if that was the case.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/108037014675127192334 Binary

    Pathetic.

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  • mlorrey

    This is Big Sis, Janet Napolitano, PTA fascist extraordinaire, wasting your tax dollars. Can’t wait to see the sort of litigation that will result from this, damage to public reputation and goodwill, restraint of trade, of course Napolitano wont feel sorry about this. People need to wake up that tyranny is loose upon our country, doing it “for the children” merits any violation of individual rights, no matter how mistaken.

    • None

      I say the entire internet chip in 1 dollar a piece into a big pool. Then we use the money and hire a male prostitute so she hopefully lightens up.
      At the least, it’ll get most of the sand out of her you know what.

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  • Rwx

    Not sure why pornography has anything to do with Homeland Security.

    • Violated

      Someone took away their hookers and blackjack?

  • Rwx

    Not sure why pornography has anything to do with Homeland Security.

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  • iGuest

    Why not kill 84 000 people just to kill 10 ?
    Or blast 84 000 homes just to destroy 10 ?

    • Anonymous

      ^ Sounds like the Bush administration’s solution to “dealing with terrorism”.

  • Autodiscinc

    Incompetent federal judge! Good reason why federal judges should not be appointed to a lifetime job. Anyone else would lose their job, this judge will continue on to do more harm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Green-Peace/100001607021374 Green Peace

    ICE Incompetent Crew of Emos?

  • http://twitter.com/resistk Dr. Jon Levy

    Sounds like grounds for Federal Tort claim.

  • Searinox

    Sue them for negligence and defamation!

  • boxofkrayonz

    This is from a government that can’t even run a whorehouse. No surprises here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PUL3W23B2ZCY2Y3AKR7XXIYZFE Santas Little Helper

    Welcome to Socialist Government control of Media.

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  • Smartwordpress

    Is any of the 84,000 site owners going to bring this to court for damages. I would be pissed if my site visitors were seeing these messages.

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  • Jack_Gas

    This ‘judge’ should be on the other side of the bench, looking at a real judge and pleading to save himself from being put to death.

    • sam

      Weclome to Judicial Immunity.

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  • Foobar

    I still don’t understand what Immigration and Customs Enforcement has to do with shutting down websites…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P7FPN5OKQF2BQUHPGSQ2UN3FCA Dave Bilsland

    The Patriot Act, which authorized the ICE and HS charters, was passed by the Republican’s House and will come up in the Democrat’s Senate as soon as Friday. The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to hear the PATRIOT Act on Thursday. If you want to stop the insanity, every American needs to call/email/tweet their Senator and ask that they vote against this unconstitutional relic of the Shrub’s immoral reign. This won’t fix the above problem, however, dropping this mis-named abomination will go a long way towards regaining our precious freedoms lost to Geo. frickin Bush and his handlers including Darth Cheney!

  • Predator

    The fed are lucky that Anon are busy with Iran for now. They might be next though.

  • Chuck

    And the left was worried about Bush.

    This Obama stuff is really radical.

  • Chuck

    And the left was worried about Bush.

    This Obama stuff is really radical.

  • Gizmo

    I am very worried about the child prono excuse for all type of policing… I have been online since 1995 and I have NEVER stumbled upon cp. Granted I never looked for it and I assume it exists but It can’t be that widespread of a problem if 99.99999% of online users have never stumbled on it.

    I am greatly in favor of protecting our children but I am suspicious that the authorities use this as a cheap excuse to infringe on the right of everyone by policing the net without being accountable.

    Reminds me when the Nazi burned the Reichstag in 1933 then blamed the communists… The perfect excuse to be allowed to suspend civil liberties!

    • DocGerbil100

      My first encounter with the internet was in the late ’90s. My boss at a shop I did some IT work for asked me to find some images to tart up a science-fiction display. With hindsight, Googling for ‘Captain Picard pics’ wasn’t such a bright idea. :P

    • Anonymous

      During the early days of the Internet the place was ultra liberal and lawless. People could do anything in an almost anonymous way. Child porn began on the Usenet amongst many other questionable subjects. After the population began to largely expand it then moved to IRC and some web.

      Due to current contempt and conservative enforcement I am quite sure that any that exists today would be quite exclusive. The Internet is a place where like-minded individuals can meet up including those with a taste for the younger age.

      I have seen what government agencies usually target these days and that usually is one age doubtful image on an otherwise adult porn site on a public facing page. In other words more a case of poor judgement.

      Well at the end of the day in every street in every country there is a pedophile but not the dangerous person looking to harm as they like to make out. Both men and women (usually lesbians) in fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts and more. Where there is a desire there is a demand and market.

      I prefer to give them sympathy and understanding rather than to hate what is natural for them to feel.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. It’s time to realize that pedosexuality is a normal sexuality, stop making it out to be anything abnormal (they did it to homosexuality and heterosexuality outside of marriage not long ago, and moved on to pedosexuality as a replacment), legalized having sex with children as long as it was done out in the open, and move on.

        Personally, I had sex with adults as a child and liked it. So did my cousins. So have some other people who I will not name.

        Pedosexuality is being used as a boogie man today in order to get people to give up their rights….. and only a fool could not agree on that when they look at the past.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. It’s time to realize that pedosexuality is a normal sexuality, stop making it out to be anything abnormal (they did it to homosexuality and heterosexuality outside of marriage not long ago, and moved on to pedosexuality as a replacment), legalized having sex with children as long as it was done out in the open, and move on.

        Personally, I had sex with adults as a child and liked it. So did my cousins. So have some other people who I will not name.

        Pedosexuality is being used as a boogie man today in order to get people to give up their rights….. and only a fool could not agree on that when they look at the past.

    • WTF

      Gizmo, I couldn’t find it even when I searched for cp to prove exactly this point…

  • Gizmo

    If we were to cut off America from the rest of the internet, would you guys miss them?

    • DocGerbil100

      I think they’d be missed for about two weeks. After that, I’m fairly sure every important system and site in the US would be moved out or mirrored somewhere else in the world.

    • Sketch

      LMAO good luck on that one, WE OWN THE NET AND YOU TOO …..lmao

    • Sketch

      LMAO good luck on that one, WE OWN THE NET AND YOU TOO …..lmao

    • mwe12

      I think we all will…. for many reasons.

  • http://twitter.com/dc0de Jim Noble

    What a load of tripe. Child pornographers don’t run websites. They distribute their wares over other networks, and far smarter users of technology than DHC (ICE) and the Federal Judge (aka Buffoon) who signed the warrant for this breach of freedoms.

    As a former soldier in the US Army, an Intelligence Analyst, and now seasoned Information Security Engineer, I can attest to the fact that the government is doing things very nefariously, and while the perception of “due process” is apparently holding up, the facts of the case aren’t actually clear. 10 web sites have been taken down, but is there really child porn there? and if so, is it the site owner’s? or was it put there by someone else?

    If DHC (ICE) really wanted to do something about the Child Porn issue in the United States, they’d target the larger corporate networks, where 6 in every 1000 systems (on average) have child pornography on them. Instead, they’re wasting taxpayers dollars, taking down legitimate web sites, impacting businesses, and violating the very rights that they claim to hold dear. For what? 10 web sites that MIGHT have child porn on them?

    DHS needs to get their act together, or as has been said many times above, be completely disbanded. The power that the DHS now yields in this country is equivalent to that of the former KGB, and for those that don’t remember, that was in Russia, the “big red evil” communist/socialist country that crushed all free trade, free thought, and capitalism. (e.g. the very thing we’re turning in to.)

    Please someone, turn this around… For the People, BY THE PEOPLE.

    • http://www.infowars.com nuke904

      One cannot click like enough. I dropped jaws when I suggested it would be more “safe and secure” for two coworkers to trade child porn on USB thumb drives than risk sharing it over the Internet. Toss encryption on top of that and it’s pretty much a never ending battle.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Well said Jim and you’re quite right. This has very little to do with child porn but more to do with an exercise in how effective government measures can be implemented for censorship, control of a false economy, and retention of power by those rich enough to dictate government policy. Yep, you guessed it – the MAFIAA.

      But it’s time for these tactics and demented selfish asswipes to cease and desist. because -

      We, the people of the internet, are for the people and we will ensure that what we do is FOR the people.
      Not narrow minded, stupid business interests.

      May the war continue …. because we know what’s going on and what’s at stake. Our freedoms.

  • Predator

    “Not sure why pornography has anything to do with Homeland Security”
    You are wrong. Homeland security has everything to do with pornography.

    Did you saw in the airport all the porno scan they installed? And if you refuse to get irradiated by the porno scan they bought with our money they will grope you and your kids too!

  • Predator

    U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

    By mistake my butt!

  • Anonymous

    Are you enjoying that hope and change now?

  • Joe Bidumb

    Thank You Obama.

    Epic Failure!

    fool me once…

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know why people keep saying this is President Obama’s doing. I am quite certain that Joe Biden before this domain seizure bad idea came about had a long meeting with the copyright side and there after declared War on our domain names. I may be able to locate that news item if lucky.

      ICE being the usual governmental bitches does as instructed.

      You got to wonder though how keen they really are to live out this plan? Domain seizure may always be questionable, and counterfeit items and major fraud action not unwelcome, but then neither have they yet targeted any major torrent sites.

      So either they are not so keen which could help explain why their actions to date have injected some serious error, or they are just dumb, or they want to avoid WWIII by seizing The Pirate Bay domains.

      Anyway President Obama is not responsible if some kid breaks wind in Atlanta just because he is President. Blame where blame due.

      And yes former President Bush along with a large majority of Congress did create the PATRIOT act which started this ball rolling. We are all the terrorists these days it seems.

  • http://xtrabiggg.blogspot.com/ Thaddeus S. Kaczor, Jr.

    Just a thought… “Immigration and Customs Enforcement”- What jurisdiction do they have to enforce ANY domestic law-enforcement problem not directly related to Customs or Immigration? Have they been recruited by Napolitano’s Fatherland Security and Holder’s corrupt DOJ to act as jackbooted enforcers for their politically-driven agenda? While they do it under the guise of being anti- Child Pornography (typical Prog/Soc propaganda ‘Think About the Children!), it is merely a cover for their push to implement their Statist agenda, particularly the quashing of free speech on the internet. While no one in their right mind could argue against the principle of stopping Kiddie Porn, these bureaucratic thugs see it merely as a crack in the door to stick their foot in and get even more control over the internet.

    It’s bad enough when government oversteps their authority, but it’s even worse when they step on citizen’s rights, and try to control every aspect of our lives..

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      It’s to do with the fecked-up ‘Customs’ element that’s intended to protect the Nation from attack by foreign bodies, actions, etc that may be harmful to the economic interests or social fabric, etc.

      But it’s all getting quite perverse with the US government concentrating on business interests instead of relying on market forces when a new revolution of technological development (ie the internet) appears to threaten or disrupt those established business interests. Instead of adopting and changing to meet the new demands of the people, we find rich people trying to protect their increasing income and profits to the detriment of freedom of speech, the right to engage with each other in a truly harmless but socially beneficial manner.

      That’s why the US State Department went stomping around the World telling other Nation-States to start getting their law on copywrong tightened up and more punitive. To protect the profits and business interest of the USA people who pay politicians to make law.

      It’s just an attack on internet freedom of the people, which we do for the people – rather than for narrow business interests for profit from us, the People.

      Go figure, huh?

    • Anonymous

      Blame this on overzealous petty tyrants, not on a political philosophy that has nothing to do with it. Both wings of our partisan duopoly can be counted upon to line up behind any measure purporting to oppose child sexual abuse because they know it’s good duckspeaking politics. Do you imagine for a single second that any member of Congress — Republicrat or Demublican — would dare to vote against any bill putatively designed to protect children?

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  • Shawnsfuture

    You have no Rights, Your rights were taken from you in 1913, when the Federal Reserve was created, and again in 1930 when USA INC. went into Bancruptcy with several other countries, which by the way are receiving life support now by the IMF. If you dont like what is happening, lump it. You are the property of the International Banks. Heres the Proof, Go to, Walmart, Mcdonalds, contribute to your retirement account, pay your taxes, keep your head down, and mouth shut and be good sheeple. Our last Hope is “JURY NULIFICATION” thats it. And dont forget to Pray.

  • oh boy

    Who is better?:

    a) Bush
    b) Obama
    c) American citizens
    d) None of the above

    • Billy

      e) Internet idiots who lump the American populace into a giant group of NASCAR loving slack-jaws.

      You think the normal Americans had anything to do with this? Do you think we’re not as upset? I’d hate to break it to you but as much as a democracy as we claim to be, most of us have no say in important matters. I can write a letter every day to my state representative about killing ICE’s wrongful domain seizures and it won’t do a damn thing. Who am I going to vote for that will change this? The only way to accomplish anything in American politics is to be a large company with tons of slash to sling around.

      • Billy

        slash = cash.

  • Anonymous

    US = FAIL. See you all in the concentration camps soon. I am sure you feminized clueless sheep will all “feel” safe there….

  • oh boy

    There was a case in 1999 where the US bombed the Chinese embassy also by ‘mistake’. Did anyone remember the news?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade

    • Anonymous

      don’t care

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DLCNJOLXE5BTJNU7DYLNLKXGF4 e

    At this point, I’m too damn old and just don’t care enough anymore … but we really need someone to design an alternative internet that the Federal, criminal, government is not able to fuck with … unless they shut down absolutely everything … and then, I think, we might have Cairo in the United States … and I don’t mean Cairo, IL.

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  • Blatantarrogance

    This is tantamount to taking out a petty weed dealer in a nieghbourhood using a tactical nuke. Yes you got the $500 a week weend dealer, but you’ve taken a whole neighbourhood with it, plus ruined a lot of people not directly caught in the blast. Typical ham-fisted ignorant yanks.

    • Ham Fisted Yank

      Haha because other countries don’t do stupid shit, I’m assuming you’re English so here’s a delightful link for you.

      http://www.necn.com/02/15/11/Crawley-Town-fan-arrested-for-insulting-/landing_arts.html?&blockID=3&apID=c412b9b5fea04eaab08370ab70b06be2

      Better not hurt anyone’s feelings in England or you get arrested. Typical tea drinking blokes.

      • DocGerbil100

        Interesting link. :) FYI, I don’t think that guy’s been arrested for hurting anyone’s feelings, per se – the police won’t care about that. It’s more likely he’s been arrested because upset football fans here often have strong tendencies towards drunken brawling, murderous violence and occasional riots that cause vast amounts of disruption & damage, overwhelming all the local emergency services. I’m not a fan of the sport, but Man United is the most popular team in the country – potentially, that number of rioters could reduce the offending party’s entire town to ashes. :P

      • DocGerbil100

        Interesting link. :) FYI, I don’t think that guy’s been arrested for hurting anyone’s feelings, per se – the police won’t care about that. It’s more likely he’s been arrested because upset football fans here often have strong tendencies towards drunken brawling, murderous violence and occasional riots that cause vast amounts of disruption & damage, overwhelming all the local emergency services. I’m not a fan of the sport, but Man United is the most popular team in the country – potentially, that number of rioters could reduce the offending party’s entire town to ashes. :P

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  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    Which one do you like better?

    Communist States of America …or… United States of FAIL ?

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  • Time for Change

    Wrongully affected sites should SUE those bastards FOR LIBEL.

  • Baffled

    LIBEL, LIBEL and LIBEL.

    SUE THEM.

    • Anonymous

      You think the corrupt DoJ will let lawsuits effect the authoritative elements of fascism?

      Personally, I think Anonymous have a better chance at pursuing justice in America than any legal efforts.

      • Joebob

        Not trying to be a jerk but you mean affect, not effect.

    • Anonymous

      You think the corrupt DoJ will let lawsuits effect the authoritative elements of fascism?

      Personally, I think Anonymous have a better chance at pursuing justice in America than any legal efforts.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_STJEZ4NDHWJPIWRHIT756K7ZFY tadchem

    Welcome to the Age of the Cyber-Gestapo.

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    US Government prosecuted under RICO laws???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MEPCBGBV3ZRTEJMVEG7UUMALHI DontBStupid

    That those responsible to court and prosecute under the RICO laws!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Teresa-Davis/1373510558 Teresa Davis

    big government got to love it.

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  • Siyanara

    I’m an American Shit-i-zen and I am ashamed of my country, FUCK YOU FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YOUR NOTHING WITHOUT MONEY!! ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT!

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  • FullTimer

    “The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children (or environment or safety), the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”-Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler, Publ. Houghton Miflin, 1943, Page 403

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  • Anonymous

    This is exactly why I say that people are going to have to realize that pedosexuality is a normal sexuality. It is being used as a ‘boogie man’ today in order to allow the government to do ANYTHING to stop a small problem (children being physically forced or threatened into sex) which is better taken care of by parents MONITORING WHO THEIR CHILDREN ARE WITH and DOING THEIR JOB AS PARENTS!

    In fact, I would go so far to say that if we legalized pedosexuality and simply focused on the VERY FEW CASES of child forcible rape (most cases of ‘child sexual abuse’ are better called consensual sex or consensual sexual touching) we would be much better off.

    • Anonymous

      Why doesn’t this site offer a “Dislike” button?

  • Anonymous

    This is exactly why I say that people are going to have to realize that pedosexuality is a normal sexuality. It is being used as a ‘boogie man’ today in order to allow the government to do ANYTHING to stop a small problem (children being physically forced or threatened into sex) which is better taken care of by parents MONITORING WHO THEIR CHILDREN ARE WITH and DOING THEIR JOB AS PARENTS!

    In fact, I would go so far to say that if we legalized pedosexuality and simply focused on the VERY FEW CASES of child forcible rape (most cases of ‘child sexual abuse’ are better called consensual sex or consensual sexual touching) we would be much better off.

  • Anoniemouse

    They can not just say we boycott this site (dns server), instead of immediately throwing it offline.

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  • Khjkhjh

    1984 by George Orwell is coming , poor americans …

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  • a concerned person

    ok, im sick of all the arguing…. WE KNOW!!! THE GOVERNMENT F***ED UP!!!! NOW GO USE YOUR TIME TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE ECONOMY, INSTEAD OF SITTING AT A COMPUTER ARGUING POLITICS!!! YOU DONT LIKE IT? VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE!!!!! YOU ALL GET *facepalm* FOR THIS ARGUING. good points, but way to many of you talking.

    • DocGerbil100

      If you don’t like the arguing, why are you on the internet? :D

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  • Aristotle

    Hi, let me ask a question: If you were on the moon with janet. And you could fuck janet, and then just leave her on the moon..Would you do it?

    • DocGerbil100

      No.

    • Anonymous

      Can I skip the first step and move directly to just leaving her on the moon?

      (Hmm. On second thought: Is the moon far enough? Maybe Sedna or the Oort Cloud would be a better choice.)

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  • Me

    I am all for getting rid of child porn and I appreciate my government. However, this is completely inexcusable! Class action lawsuit are not the answer as only taxpayers will suffer. Sue and demand for the loss of jobs/careers of those who made the poor decision to slam down the hammer first and ask questions later. People who make decisions like that are not who we want in any government.

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  • Dhuet36gf73

    The American government is stupid

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  • Yamum

    Anyone else agree when i say they’re morons?

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  • Rayvyn

    These people who were wrongly shut down should hire lawyers and ask for donations to sue the government agency who shut them to all the way to the Supreme Court. Make it costly for the government. The government was lazy, they failed to look at each individual site they were shutting down. Instead they just looked as some domains and shut down blocks of sites. They have the right and obligation to shut down any site that traffics in pirated games, music, movies, books and e-books. That’s what we pay them to do, uphold the law. But they broke the law by shutting down innocent sites. That’s why the government should have their asses sued and don’t sue in a class action, make them have to defend each individual case of illegal shutdowns. I also think there should be criminal charges against those who made the decision to not check each and every site for illegal activity.

    This approach to law enforcement is dangerous and foolish. It’s like killing a cockroach with an MLRS.

    Rayvyn

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  • RottonSheep

    Wow a bunch of tools, i’m from the states and this is just embarrassing.. why does the rest of the world let us get away with crap like this, we think we can control everything and do anything we want, stick our nose’s where they have no point in being in the first place, and this internet thing now bi-goly, please half the the damn people that run our so called state are old farts, and last i checked my my still doesnt now how to work a computer or knows really what the “Internet” really is… so why let abunch of old farts tamper with it saying they are helping?

  • Kotten515RottonSheep0

    Wow a bunch of tools, i’m from the states and this is just embarrassing.. why does the rest of the world let us get away with crap like this, we think we can control everything and do anything we want, stick our nose’s where they have no point in being in the first place, and this internet thing now bi-goly, please half the the damn people that run our so called state are old farts, and last i checked my *grandma* still doesnt now how to work a computer or knows really what the “Internet” really is… so why let abunch of old farts tamper with it saying they are helping?

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UNS6IT4SI75EZ4EO2UJDLFPSGE Glen Stobbs

    … funny that, it could be seen as hacking ….. but what happens if we even just attempt to hack?

    Double standards … of course. We are talking USfuckingA here

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  • Anonymous

    Is it just possible that this is no “mistake” at all, but practice for shutting down political or leaks sites that break no laws but offend the powerful?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Green-Peace/100001607021374 Green Peace

    Is there a government agency that is NOT run by complete morons?

  • Knv

    nice one… trying to sneak in your spam againidiot!

  • Knv

    nice one… trying to sneak in your spam againidiot!

  • Chicago860

    Yes – the Department of Redundancy Department. There’s two of them and they check to make sure other departments aren’t doing their jobs.

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