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U.S. Govt. Equates Megaupload to Bank Robbers

The U.S. Government has responded to Megaupload’s request to dismiss the criminal proceedings, and to return the money that was seized by the authorities. The U.S. attorney argues that it’s not a problem that Megaupload was not served and notes that it would be unprecedented to dismiss the case at this time. The Government further objects to returning any funds to aid Mega’s defense, as this money was “stolen” from the entertainment industries.

Two weeks ago Megaupload’s lawyers filed a motion to dismiss the criminal case on the basis that the company was never properly served.

This issue was previously acknowledged by Judge O’Grady, who had doubts that the case would ever go to trial due to this procedural matter.

However, the Government believes that the case should continue. In a response filed today, US Attorney Neil MacBride argues that the notion that a non-U.S. company can’t be served should be rejected by the court.

“This line of reasoning leads to the incredible conclusion that foreign corporations can commit crimes in the United States without risk of being brought to justice here,” McBride writes, adding that it would be unprecedented to dismiss the case at this time.

According to the Government the federal rules shouldn’t be interpreted so narrowly. A company should only be served on a U.S. address if they have one, it is argued.

“The provision should be interpreted to require mailing a copy of the summons to the organization’s address or to its principal place of business in the United States, only where such an address or place of business exists.”

Moving on to the money side, the U.S. asks the court to reject Megaupload’s request to return seized funds so these can be used to aid the company’s defense. Previously, the company pointed out that the Government’s argument that all revenue the site ever made came from “infringements” is flawed.

However, the U.S. stands by this assessment and tells the court that returning Megaupload’s assets is no different from handing back stolen money to a bank robber.

“The Government’s interest in forfeiture is virtually indistinguishable from its interest in returning to a bank the proceeds of a bank robbery; and a forfeiture-defendant’s claim of right to use such assets to hire an attorney, instead of having them returned to their rightful owners, is no more persuasive than a bank robber’s similar claim,” MacBride writes.

In addition to the above the Government points out that Megaupload’s motions should be rejected, because the court hasn’t yet decided whether defense lawyer Andrew Shapiro of Quinn Emanuel Urguhart & Sullivan is subject to conflicts of interest.

Shapiro’s law firm previously defended media companies that may be called in as witnesses in this case.

Attorney General MacBride concludes by asking the court to strike Megaupload’s requests. It is now up to Judge O’Grady to come to a decision on the various issues that were raised.

It is clear that the Megaupload case is heating up, even before getting into the factual allegations of the indictment. While it’s too early to conclude anything, the above suggests that the Government is uneasy with the strength of Megaupload’s defense.

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  • Sketch

    typical lawyer shit……..the world would be better off without them

    • yello

      is it wrong to start reading the heading and just thinking
      “not more U.S. gov bulls%$#t

      • Lethn

         We should take bets on what the reaction from the U.S will be on any event like this :P

        • Julie G. Farley

          Shapiro’s law firm previously defended media companies that may be called in as witnesses in this case. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

        • Guest

          “This line of reasoning leads to the incredible conclusion that foreign
          corporations can commit crimes in the United States without risk of
          being brought to justice here,”

          No. What is really incredible there is that the US gov believe that they can enforce the US law abroad in total violation of the US supreme law. This is what is incredible. On my watch what this government is doing is a criminal act of war against  foreign citizen. The member of the Obama governement shall be arrested and prosecuted for treason  for doing the deed of a group of foreign corporations and against the US citizen interest.

          The US authorities in general are really digging their graves.

          The economy is fucked the unemployment is through the roof, the inalienable right of the citizen are trampled and the constitution is use as toilet paper by the 3 branches of the federal government, Republicans and Democrats confounded.

          To make thing even worst instead of listening to the citizen who protest peacefully and legally the dire situation they send their criminal goons (the cop who protect and serve the corporatists) beat them and put them in jail. Guess what is going to happen next?

          INSURRECTION! ! ! !

          All these treasonous government asshole and their corporate friends are going to end up on a rope!

          Deuce!

        • Eileen R. Vanhoose

           I hope Obama will not confirmed at white house. He has too many friends in RIAA, http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

        • austintommy

          my buddy’s step-mother makes $62 hourly on the internet. She has been out of a job for 6 months but last month her check was $20978 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read more here 

          ?????? (Click On My Name For Link)

        • VasquezNadine

          my best friend’s sister-in-law got paid $14696 the prior month. she is making money on the inte<!–truth is almight–>rnet and bought a $372500 home. All she did was get blessed and work up the steps uncovered on this link 

          ?????? (Click On My Name For Link)

      • Anonymous

        No it’s not, I do it every day.

      • Intrigued Spectator

        Yes it’s complete and utter bulls%$#t. Especially “The Government further objects to returning any funds to aid Mega’s
        defense, as this money was “stolen” from the entertainment industries.” So now anyone accused of an alleged crime is no longer allowed to defend themselves? Everything they’ve done so far would seem to point to that as being the governments genuine belief. Honestly speaking, U.S. citizens should be very worried when they read a line like that. The rights you all cherish are being slowly eroded for the sake of the rich and powerful, all in the name of profit, and you are well on your way to becoming their slaves as a result. In a way many of you already are due to your dependence on them for products, as well as your income.

        I don’t know how the government plans to win this case, especially considering less than 7% of the content on Megaupload’s server is actually infringing. Not only that, but they’ve complied with all take down requests right from day one and have always taken any potentially illegal abuse by users as very serious. It’s going to be very hard, if not impossible, to paint Megaupload as the villain they claim it is in light of those facts. The fact that the U.S. government completely destroyed a perfectly legitimate, law abiding business on the whims of the entertaiment industry is surely going to be closely scrutinized when all is said and done as well, especially when Megaupoad seeks rightful compensation for the injustice they’ve been forced to endure. I wouldn’t be surprised if key federal employees whom were involved in this charade end up being urgently asked resign considering the full extent of their shameful behavior. Heck, jail time might even be a possibility for some of them, though that is probably a remote chance at best considering how connected they all are. Monetary compensation seems far more likely to me (using taxpayer money no less). I suppose it will depend on the specific evidence of corruption investigators have managed to discover, how damning it is, and whether it can stand up to being carefully scrutinized in court. I almost feel sorry for how bad this is going to turn out for the government… almost.

        • Anon

          I am 99.98% sure you pulled that 7% stat out of your ass.

        • Gae

          You just missed out the part about how everybody who is key to deciding if they are a legitimate business or not has either been paid off, already holds extreme anti-piracy views or is connected in some way to the entertainment industry.
          Anybody not covered under the above will have just been taken in by bullshit industry funded studies, figures and lies.

        • Guest

          If they are able to bring Dotcom to U.S. soil, it’s all over.  The MPAA have had a whole stable of judges waiting in line, payola checks in hand, to stamp a “Guilty” verdict on the case since before the January raid was even carried out.

      • The guy

        Nope, think away good buddy.

    • MEGA

       Here comes the drone attack !!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jhborden James H Borden

      How can money be stolen if they never had possesion of the money to begin with????

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  • Idontbuyebooks

    Meanwhile I hope Obama will not confirmed at white house. He has too many friends in RIAA, MPAA and BSA 

    it is a shame that in public debates, from obsolete media (tv) to internet, nobody asks to Mr. Obama about Megaupload (this causes surely significant losses in popularity) and about financial disaster he caused to American hosting company served megaupload

    • Anyone

      Romney is worse

      it’s sad

      • Anonymous

        MAFIAA versus Bank of America.
        No matter who wins, we lose.

      • Anonymous

        Since when did Americans actually elect their president? The truth is, the next president has already been decided a long time ago, what you see now is simply just a charade.

        If you really want to know what happens, just read what Chomsky has to say.

        • link

           link pls

        • Anonymous

          Agreed, it takes money to win elections and we all know where that money comes from, and it sure isn’t from the people.

        • Anonymous

          Let’s be clear on a few things:

          1) Chomsky is a bona fide cast-iron Tinfoil Hat. Seriously. Yes, he does make a great many brilliant points and is well worth reading. That doesn’t make it any less embarrassing the way he blames the US and Israel for any heinous crime and conspiracy performed since the days of ancient Babylon, more or less.

          2) The fact that the US president in essence is the choice between two quite similar sock puppets isn’t even a secret. All you have to do is look beyond the cheap rhetoric and look at the method in how a president is actually elected. In the exceedingly rare case where a president comes to the white house without already having the backing of the existing power structure you end up with Jimmy Carter – well-meaning but essentially powerless.

          3) This aside, the one way the US citizenry CAN make a difference is to ensure that they elect senators and congressmen outside the common mold. If you can swing it so the house is filled with senatiors and congressmen unaffiliated with either republicans and democrats…that’s when you actually CAN make a difference. Sadly, this means the citizenry actually has to get off their rump and see to it that such people end up getting sent to washington.

        • Guest

          Conspiracy theories can be fun.

        • Efsdfsd

          @Shogunreaper:disqus It doesn’t take money to win an election, just good hearted citizens.
          Money is only required to lie.

        • Andrew Lee

           Yeah it’s a waste of time to vote :/ The last time Obama/McCain was a joke. I did not want either of them. For some reason everyone had the big idea since Obama is black he was going to “change the game” rofl.. Well puppets come in all different colors lol.

          Some of them will give in a lot more than others like George Bush for example. Which I don’t blame him since he looked pretty sick while he was president compared to the way he use to speak. I think he might have Alzheimer’s or something.

          Even if by some freak occurrence we did get someone that really was gonna change shit it would never happen. You start fucking with the elites money and they will kill you. Anyone who thinks a bunch of billionaires cannot get to anyone is blind.  With that kind of funds at your fingers you can pretty much do whatever you like.

          You know one of the main reasons we got out of Great Britain was to escape the rule of the elite. We did just that for many years but as the generations died off the played into peoples greed and reclaimed their hold.

          They just don’t own us here in the USA they own the world. Why or how could they? Well it’s pretty simple they own the money that we have to pay back with small interest. Their combined wealth is in the trillions which is more than any normal person could ever dream of understanding lol.

          Still I don’t get it :/ it’s not like you can take it with you when you cease to exist. A few billion years at the max and everything done by humans will have zero meaning and will be forgotten forever. Destructive as we are it will probably be much sooner. I doubt we will make it another 10,000 years at the rate we are going.

        • Melissa

           re “link pls”
          davidicke.com/forum

      • Decimus

        Romney is an idiot, but Obama is about as bad as it gets.  It is sad that you can’t really vote for someone that you like, but rather who you think is the lesser of two evils.

        We need a Pirate Party.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000104815779 Marc Tiedemann

           You have a Pirate Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Pirate_Party). It’s just sad that you apparently only have 2 parties who have a realistic chance to win an election.
          But after how Bush f***ed it up, I really hope you guys don’t EVER elect another of those republican morons.

        • Anonymous

          Marc, and we have only two parties with a reasonable chance of winning the election mainly because those two parties keep spreading that self-fulfilling, self-serving observation every time their duopoly is in danger.

        • Guest

          The problem with American politics is not “Republican Morons” or the Democratic Douchebags.  It’s that all the wrong ones make it to the primaries.  There’s absolutely no chance for a good candidate (be that a dem or rep) to make it to the primaries, either because of popularity issues or money issues.  The good guys just can’t compete.

          @ Marc – If you think that all Republicans are morons, you’re extremely naive.  Not everyone wants to understand politics, but if you label anyone only based on their political viewpoints, you may as well be a sexist, racist, and judge people by their shoe sizes.  It’s just not practical thinking.

      • Jmorse43508

        I’m not so sure, at least when it comes to MAFIAA-related matters. Republicans have typically been anti-Hollywood/music industry.

        But then that would be otherwise if he accepted bribes (ahem… campaign contributions) from the netertainment industry.

        • Guest

          “Republicans have typically been anti-Hollywood/music industry.”

          lol. Since when? Have you ever taken a look at how they vote on Hollywood/music industry copyright bills? 

          Hint: They tend to vote “yes”. 

          Republicans are corporate whores. Democrats are corporate whores. It’s corporate whores all the way down.

        • Anyone

          they are much more pro-corporation than they are anti-hollywood

        • Guest

          As the other Guest said, most politicians are corporate whores.  Traditionally, yes, republicans are anti-hollywood and what-not.  But, lately, we’ve been seeing greed across the board.  Lamar Smith is a Republican from Texas, he’s the one that introduced the SOPA Bill.

          The political parties aren’t really to blame, it’s the corrupt politicians.  I just hope the voters get the intelligence to get rid of the corrupt pigs.  There are good politicians out there.

    • Anonymous

      Comparing Obama to GWB Obama still comes out looking like the chap in the white hat. Mind you, that’s a pretty tall bar to jump.

      Comparing Obama to Romney now…honestly, what difference, if any, do you see?

      If the US citizenry wants their voices to be heard in the US the first thing they need to do is take charge of the senators and congressmen that get sent to the capitol to start with. And that means engaging in politics, not just for the presidential elections but to ensure they vote for congressmen and senators who do not play the political game in order to buddy up with private interests.

      That’s the way to win the game, but it requires that US citizens start realizing that when they cast their ballot, they do so not just for the good of their state and the representative most eager to pork-barrel a project in their own state.

      • Decimus

        The biggest difference is that nobody knew ANYTHING about Obama when he was elected.  He was the more popular guy, he got voted in.  McCain represented the GOP and looked like a crazy old man.  He acted like one, too.

        Romney is a fairly well-known politician, we know he’s Mormon and that his father was also a politician.  We also know what he stands for.  He and Obama will probably spend most of their campaign funds mudslinging, but it’s Romney with the better track record.

        South Park is right, it’s an election between a douche and a turd.  That’s how it always is.

        • Guest

          While I do think that Romney might be the marginally lesser of two evils, I still refuse to vote until they add “scrap the whole thing and start over” as a voting option.

        • Guest

          @   other Guest

          Part of starting over needs to be the harsh criminalization of lobbying. It wouldn’t fix everything, but it would help alot. 

        • 1stGuest

          Second Guest:

          A better solution would be a government so small and limited in power that there is no point in lobbying (since they can’t really do anything anyways). It’s hard to believe these days that some of the Founding Fathers thought the Bill of Rights was unnecessary since the Government would have _only_ the powers given to it by the Constitution.

          Government in general is just the public’s concession that we can’t change our own proverbial soiled diapers and need Mommy and Daddy to do it for us. If they didn’t feel the need to do crap like terrorize foreign citizens at the command of American lobbyists, regulate anything and everything, and criminalize thought crimes, they could probably operate entirely from lotteries and non-invasive taxes without going farther and farther into debt each year.

          Of course, this post has probably gotten me on several terrorist watch lists.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Third Guest, apparently you miss that in the real world, when you look at things in a neutral light, the Feds are only doing what the Constitution let’s them do.

          MANY times when they are accused of ‘interfering in things that the states should take care of’ there is a legitimate argument that the thing in question crosses state lines and therefore is a INTER-state issue, which the Constitution specifically says the federal government is supposed to regulate.

          To be blunt, the world is so complicated today that a ‘very limited federal goverment’ (tongue sticking out of my mouth here like an insane person) just wouldn’t work.
          There is too much shit that the states would bicker about on a regular basis. I’m of the opinion that what we really need is for the states to be dissolved and the federal government to take over everything in this country.

          Two systems of law just doesn’t work and neither do two supposedly ‘equal’ government systems in one country.

          Now, that said, the federal government would have to have severe restrictions on lobbying put into effect to keep it from becoming even more corrupt than it is today if the states were dissolved to an extent.

      • Anonymous

        There are no people in government, only posts.  Whoever comes to sit in the chair is merely fulfilling the responsibilities required of them by the post.  Ex. the law authorizing the Office of National Drug Control Policy specifically requires that the office and its head represent a zero-tolerance anti-drug stance.  This is why the former Seattle police chief who directed his department to make pot enforcement the lowest law enforcement priority is now blankly repeating “Drugs are bad, mkay”.

        So, now that the policy positions of the government have been near-indelibly etched into its bureaucracy, one of the clearest ways forward is to shun that bureaucracy entirely.  This is why you see all the domestic spying, the COINTELPRO, the partisan distractions, generally all the planning that a government which knows an insurrection is coming might undertake to secure its own continuity (aka relevance) and that of the lives of its elites and ministers.

      • Guest

        “And that means engaging in politics, not just for the presidential elections but to ensure they vote for congressmen and senators who do not play the political game in order to buddy up with private interests.”

        And that would mean voting for nobody. 

        One of the biggest problems with the system is that it’s rigged towards politicians who play the game and buddy up with private interests. You show me an honest poltician, and I’ll show you a politician who isn’t on the ballot.

        • Anonymous

          If I may suggest, concern yourself less with the pol and more with the ticket.  Treating the D and R parties as two wings of the same party and casting your vote for anyone outside that party (really, anyone!) opens the ballot to as much expressive power as you can get within a first-past-the-post system and a power duopoly.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

           A step in the right direction would be to throw out your ‘first past the post’ system which naturally favours the two big parties.Replace it with a proportional representation system that more or less elects representatives in numbers proportional to their parties’ shares of the vote. Increasing the number of parties involved in government and opposition dilutes the power of each one and forces parties to form shifting alliances to enact policies. It allows the voters more say in how they are governed, and weakens lobbyists efforts. 
          Lobbying with money and favours must be totally banned, and tried by judges who regard lobbyists as guilty unless [incredibly!] proved innocent. Rather the way the US government is approaching the Megaupload trial in fact… 

      • http://twitter.com/lysana Brenda/Lysana/either

        Let’s start with Obama’s record on health care reform. Carry through to his pro-choice stance. Then his respect for diversity. His inclusiveness. That’s just four. And add in Romney’s addiction to the ultra-rich he hobnobs with and can’t even identify a donut. You think they’re the same? You are incapable of rational thought.

        • Spectre_rx

           Seriously?  I guess Obama’s fundraiser at $40,000 a plate was representing the middle class.  They ALL hobnob with the ultra-rich.  The ultra-rich (Koch Brothers, Soros, Hollywood elite) get them to the money to run campaigns and later “debts” need to be paid. 

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Well, I see a few differences:

        1. Romney is a Mormon and has been honest about the fact that he would try to overturn Roe vs. Wade. I personally agree that it should be overturned and abortion made illegal, but he goes way too far when he says that birth control should be made illegal (yes, he did do this one time, it’s a recorded fact).

        2. Romney is pro-war. If we get him into office, we WILL have the United States starting a third war with either Iran or Pakistan.

    • desbest

      Sadly Obama has nothing to do with the Megaupload fiasco, and it’s not in his power to do so. He’s powerless to do anything about it. As he says, it’s up to the Justice Department.

      The way the US [federal] government works, is that it is split up into 3 different branches of power, which is unlike a normal government where power is retained entirely within parliament.

      This means that the Supreme Court, which this case is assigned to, has the power to create new laws, and overturn laws that Obama wants to implement.

      All the three branches operate independantly of each other.

      It’s a shame that Obama is cannot do anything to stop this atrocity of a court case.

      • Anonymous

        AFAIK, the Supreme Court cannot create new laws, it does however, interpret existing written laws and creates precedent in its interpretation, which in turn is then seen as law

        • MEGA

           Corporations are people = Making law.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Unfortunately not, MEGA. That was actually WRITTEN IN THE LAWS, which should severely anger anyone out there.

      • Anonymous

        So, in your coloring-book civics version of American government, which branch of the government contains the DoJ, and who is that branch’s titular head?

        • desbest

          There’s the
          Executive Branch –> President (Vice President and Cabinet)
          Legislative Branch –> Congress (Senate and House of Representatives)
          Judical Branch –> Supreme Court

          http://www.slideshare.net/Patrickwolak/lesson-15-british-and-american-governments-presentation

        • Anonymous

          Where’s the rest of your answer?  Never mind, let me finish it for you.

          The judicial branch is merely hearing the case.  The DoJ is the organization prosecuting the case.  The DoJ is part of the executive branch, presently headed by Mr. Obama.

          So Mr. Obama IS the prosecution, and could direct DoJ head Mr. Holder to drop this case at any time.  Any time a Democratic official says “I can’t”, they usually mean “I won’t”.  The one rule of USian politics is: he who has the guns can do whatever he damnwell pleases.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PCKIRANTV2G46WJLWDCBG5BR4E Craig

    as Gary responded I’m surprised that a person able to profit $7112 in 1 month on the computer. did you see this page (Click on menu Home more information)  http://goo.gl/rNLnK   

  • entropy

    So the US government are already saying that Megaupload are already guilty even before a trial is made…well that’s a surprise. Not.

    • The guy

      Certainly not a surprise, they pulled that persecution out of their asses.

  • Master

    The MAFIAA makes me want to download movies just for the sake of downloading them.

    • Spite

       You mean you haven’t already?

      • Master

        I’ve got lots. I’m off to get the rest.

    • It’s a fit-up

      I did that after Gene Simmons came out attacking file sharing,
      I downloaded the entire KISS discography (which I can’t stand) and shared it for about a year. I even sent him messages telling him what I was doing and why just to piss him off.

      • Dillenbeck

        While I understand your viewpoint, I can’t agree with it.  I have reduced my music purchases from non-local bands (ie, record labels versus home made) to nothing – not new, not used, not pirated.  My movie purchases are limited to Netflix and an occasional DVD/BD, but those are becoming fewer and fewer.  If you buy new, you feed the beast that will bite you – if you buy used, you are still doing the same by encouraging someone to buy new.  However, if you pirate, you are basically allowing them to use the court system to charge hundreds of times what a product is worth, giving them far more money than if you bought it new (in the long run).  Sorry, doing without en masse – no new, no used, no pirated content – is the only way to send a strong message to the companies that we don’t want what they are trying to sell us.

        • DocGerbil100

          Sorry, but as it’s written, this is nonsense. “Doing without en masse”, on it’s own, will send no message whatsoever to anybody, except, possibly: “this industry is dying, stop producing content”.

          If we have an organised ‘day of action’ (preferably better-organised than Black March), where we all stop buying for a while, the content-industries and companies concerned can see clearly how much their sales have dropped by compared to previous days (or months, or whatever).

          On the other hand, silently abandoning a source of content sends no message at all.  How are they supposed to know if consumers are standing up for their principles or moving on to different sources of content?  Or simply dying off and not being replaced by new customers?  Corporate executives aren’t psychic.

          The only real voice anyone can have is the power of direct communication.

          Write a letter to them, explaining your objections and the economic consequences to them of being anti-internet, even if it’s just your own personal purchasing choices.  That says something.

          Organise a day of action, make it as big, noisy and articulate as you can.  That says something.

          Form local Pirate Parties, make a financial contribution and vote for them when the chance comes up.  Stand for election yourself, openly and in full public view, if you have the strength.  That says a huge amount.

          But if you aren’t prepared to say anything outside of anonymous comments on an online forum, you can’t honestly complain when they ignore you.  Quite frankly, you don’t really deserve much else, if that’s the case.

  • Anonymous

    McBride’s reasoning is absurd. He equates “thing done on the internet by people in a foreign country” with “thing done in the US by foreigners”.

    This is bad. On the one hand we have the US trying to apply its laws to the entire internet, and on the other we have the UN trying to seize total internet control…

    • Decimus

      I love how he defends pursuing the case without any legal authority.  What an asshole.

      I have his tactics:
      1. Demonize MegaUpload.
      2. Throw in a high number and claim that that’s how many dollars MU stole from the entertainment industry.
      3. Send the FBI to raid MU, illegally.
      4. Laugh your ass off.
      5. Stop laughing when you realize that a judge has a brain.
      6. Try to stop MU’s defense in any way that you can.
      7. Further demonize them.
      8. Tell the judge that you don’t need to use the legal system to punish MU.
      9. Further demonize MU.
      10. If all works out, roll around in your payout.  If it doesn’t work out, demonize MU, claim that it’s a dark day for justice, and call your mother to cry about it.

      • Master

        11. Rinse and repeat.

  • Guest

    “The attorney general argues that it’s not a problem that Megaupload was
    not served and notes that it would be unprecedented to dismiss the case
    at this time. The Government further objects to returning any funds to
    aid Mega’s defense, as this money was “stolen” from the entertainment
    industries.”

    So its not wrong to conduct an illegal raid and cause damage etc.on someone that lies outside US jurisdiction. Well the government has commited an illegal act with crossing their jurisdication and they should be made accountable for the illegality that they have done and as for saying that they object to returning any funds as this money was “stolen” from the entertainment industries then was it not stated by the NZ prosecutores that copying of digital data is not an offence and criminal act etc. then this money cannot be stolen money can it.

    • MadAsASnake

      The only thing unprecedented here is a raid and seizure outside due process and without legal basis. MAFIAA being upset about things does not mean anyone else is doing anything illegal. I can’t see this BS getting past a judge…

  • Anonymous

    One can clearly see that the case is going to be a heated one, and one that will also be of great consequence to future cyberlockers. Although, I highly doubt that the judge will dismiss the case, I also do believe that MU will get its money back because these funds have been confiscated without any notice and without a valid reason.

    If Kim Dotcom was an American, then the consequences would be different, but the FBI have no right whatsoever to confiscate a foreigner’s belongings, and especially one that has not been to the US in for a long period of time; the alleged Kim Dotcom does not even have business in the United States.

    So, I am quite sure that MU will get its money back, but I highly doubt that the case is going to die right here and now. For reasons mentioned above, that would really be unprecedented.

    But you can clearly understand how desperate the US has become over the past few months, even having the audacity to turn MU customers against MU for a problem the Media Associations have created themselves.

    One can clearly understand that the MPAA and the RIAA thought that New Zealand would bow down to American pressure and that with funds taken away from him KD would be helpless. But in a recent interview, Kim’s lawyers seem to be with him all the way. Thus, I strongly believe that the ending will be in MU’s favor. However, it might take a long while to get there. Along the way, MU assets might be more freed up.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, Kim Dotcom NOT being a US citizen might be extremely liable to him in this case. It’s not impossible that the US can simply invoke one or other of the laws made during the “terrorist panic era” in which case all bets regarding common jurisprudence go right out the window.

      Bear in mind that since the signing of the patriot act, even US citizens can be exempted from their constitutional rights by the mere say-so of a sufficiently influential politician. With the NDAA in effect, this can be done by the simple expedient of stripping them of their citizenship.

      • Anonymous

        A judge recently called ndaa unconstitutional, i dont have the link with me, but obama got really mad about what the judge saud, whilst the judge said he was impressed about that piece of legislation that shouldnt come to existence in the first place in the usa

        • http://twitter.com/lysana Brenda/Lysana/either

          Actually, the judge’s ruling conformed perfectly to President Obama’s signing statement asserting that it did not extend indefinite detention to US citizens or nationals on our territory. And this isn’t a terrorist case, so you’re being doubly sloppy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    WEll the rest of the world equates the US gov to Terrorists

    • Decimus

      They take full advantage of the indecisiveness of Americans.  The politicians that aren’t total liars are far and few between.  Those that don’t lie hardly stand a chance.

      I believe that politics in every other country are the same, the government is run by crooks and the people pay for it.  If we had a better educational system, maybe half the people would learn some form of deductive reasoning.

      • Anonymous

        Which, from their standpoint, is reason enough to destroy public education and leave critical thinking and reasoning to those who can afford it.

        • The guy

          Which explains to people why teachers are getting laid off.

  • Mark

    USA think the world is the USA and everyone should conform to there laws and simply bend over and take it.  I really really hope USA gov loose this case and Kim Dotcom and others make a come back…

    • theonlyone

       ”USA think the world is the USA and everyone should conform to there laws and simply bend over and take it.”

       Agreed. I am sick of the government who is supposed to be controlled by the citizens controlling its citizens and citizens of other countries. Thuggery, douchebaggery and scumfuckery.

      • The guy

        If we had an american version of the french revolution, i’m sure that will make all the higher-ups change their tune real quick. Join me in liberating the world from such tyranny.

        • theonlyone

           Well thats 2 of us. Another few hundred thousand and I will be there on the first assault wave. I have always believed a bloody revolution is the only solution.

  • John Space

    Robbing a bank is stealing from a thief. So that counts as praise.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    pff, they should be ashamed of having such arguments. Also, who was that idiot that said 1 download = 1 lost sale = stolen money from content industry. Seriously, I’m amazed that they consider this bullshit argument as normal argument.
    Anyways, we just can hope that O’Grady will remain sane judge and tell usa to stop with bullshit.

    • Efaefa

      I grow my own apples,
      therefore
      1 apple grown by me = 1 lost sale for the apple industry = stolen money,
      apparently.

      I feel so bad ass now

      • Anonymous

        “I feel like a bad ass now”

        I laughed far harder than I should have.

        • The guy

          Me too

      • McCheezits

        I create my own software, and only use open-source (with some exceptions like the proprietary Dropbox daemon).
        Therefore, according to corporation logic, by using a free, competing product (which is actually better) I am stealing their money.

        I’m such a criminal XD

        @e1666aa6e52d2806a0db0443b7074175:disqus http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/508/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

    • McCheezits

      It seems the United States Government does not understand basic economics.

      Hence why they have $15b in debt. Well that, and Bush.

      • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

        economics aside, they don’t seem to understand even basics of common sense

        • The guy

          Like they ever had common sense to begin with, just saying.

  • Anonymous

    I equate the U.S. Govt. as thieves, harassers and evidence tamperers… ooooh you see what I did thar?

  • Anonymous

    I am sure having a hard time knowing where to start here due to how much they have said that is wrong so let me waddle through all this tripe and trash.

    For a start there is no way anyone but the stupid US Government can conclude that all profit MegaUpload made is from infringement. They clearly overlook that one valid MU user is already suing their butt on behalf of the rest of these innocent users.

    Then when exactly has making money from infringement been unlawful? The whole point of DMCA law is to ALLOW INFRINGEMENT but to allow fairness to rights holders through take down requests. So clearly if infringement is lawful for a DMCA safe-harbour company then so is making money from it!

    In fact the US these days loves YouTube but anyone knowing YouTube’s history and the court case that proved them lawful knows that YouTube was founded on shit loads and crap loads of infringement. It is true to say that infringement is what made YouTube the multi-billion dollar company it is today. This is the whole point of the law to allow businesses to grow without the massive burden of stamping out all infringement.

    So congratulations US Government you don’t even know you own fucking laws!

    Then as already been proved had all the MU management been found guilty of every single charge against them and were sent to prison then the maximum fines that can be assigned against them is still a fraction of the total seized. So why is the US Government seizing hundreds of millions more than what the Court can ever assign to them once the trail is over? Sure the copyright cartels may want to later sue MegaUpload but it is still Mega’s money until a Court says otherwise.

    Then them wanting to deny Mega the right to pay for their high quality lawyers can only be seen as an attempt to try to deny them justice. Surely Justice is all about allowing your opponent the fair right to defend themselves. There is no justice found in stealing all of someone’s money and then saying no we deny you having a good lawyer!

    I could go on for a week at this rate but up next is the little matter that Mega has never been served meaning that the Mega corporation can never go to trail in the United States simply because it is a foreign company, Sure they can still charge all the individual members but why should the corporations asserts all be seized if Mega can never be charged, sent to trial and convicted?

    It is a Judge job to narrowly define the law under the intentions it was written and if the law does say you can’t charge a foreign corporation then why are they trying to do just that? I can only feel that this Judge is due to give them a good slapping for being so stupid.

    Well as the NZ judge said all of the charges come down to the nature of the infringement and the US Government trying to ignore that DMCA law exists and all Mega did to follow that law does not bode well for them.

    • Anonymous

      “So why is the US Government seizing hundreds of millions more than what the Court can ever assign to them once the trail is over?”Well, that one is easy to answer.
      Fines are one thing. There is a maximum to these, and as you say it’s only a fraction of what has been seized.
      There is the point of compensation now. These have no maximum limit. You have to compensate for all the damage you’ve done (and when there is proof backing up the claim). If MU is condemned for having caused billions and zillions of dollars of damage, they’ll have to pay for it. Considering previous cases of Entertainment Industry vs normal people, we can only imagine how much “damage” they’ll pretend MU has caused. Or maybe not: I’d say we can’t even begin to imagine.

      But the rest of the point is valid. This is not a bank robbery. There has been no theft, and we can’t even calculate the so-called damage done to copyright dictators, though we know for sure that all of MU incomes were not from infringement. What they’re doing is plainly denying MU the means of his defense, both by denying him his lawyer and the funds to pay him.

      • theonlyone

         When it comes to certain crimes (money laundering, fraud, drug trafficking etc) the government has laws on the books which say they can confiscate all assets including equipment, vehicles, cash, investments. They take everything and there is no limit. I think its bullshit but it happens all the time. They have almost unlimited power.

        Some day the government will go down in flames and much blood will be shed. I can only hope I live long enough to see it happen.

      • Anonymous

        Yes well damages more seems a civil matter and following criminal conviction is for later court cases to sort out. The key point of course is that the victim needs to apply for damages and that is not part of the main criminal trial.

        My other point would be is that all these assets have been seized from Mega the corporation but Mega has not been served. So while the DoJ/FBI have made serious accusations again corporation Mega, and seized all their assets, there is no paperwork in place to call corporation Mega to trial.

        Should it be proved true that the US Government cannot call Hong Kong based corporation Mega to trial then the assets have been eternally taken until some Judge gets annoyed that corporation Mega will never see trial and order the assets to be freed.

      • MadAsASnake

        Compensation to whom? MPAA? MAFIAA? Do you think their calculations will get past a judge? Any judge? even a bought one?

        • Wormlore

          Well, as I stated earlier, you can see previous cases of RIAA/MPAA vs normal people. Abusive demands were met, millions of dollars for a few files is not out of their reach.
          Of course, MU might have better lawyers… if they’re allowed to even choose one… but in the event that they’re actually declared guilty (in the event of a trial, which is not even a sure thing yet), being condemned for trillions of damages could be considered since we’re not talking about 10 or 20 files here.

          So, of course it would be stupid, abusive, borderline illegal. But so what: lobbies achieved to buy laws made right for them, and US government is clearly accomplice to this anti-democratic farce. However, “the other party being wrong” doesn’t help for two reasons.
          - One is that the other one being wrong doesn’t automatically makes you right. MU might have faults too. Let’s not presume that they’re nice guys as we don’t know the whole story.
          - Second, and most important, is the fact that even “being right” doesn’t make you win. Winning, all along history, has never been a matter of “right” but “might”. Being right just helps having more people on your side (though even that doesn’t insure it), which helps winning a conflict. But the funny part in our “modern” juridic system is that numbers don’t necessarily help either. It’s a battle of words, in a world where words have sometimes very twisted meanings. And having been the ones who “made the meaning”, lobbies have a strong advantage.

          All this doesn’t means MPAA/RIAA/you-name-it will win. It just means that yes, they might win, and a jackpot in the process. An undeserved jackpot if there ever was one, but still…

  • Anonymous

    you made a mistake with the title, it should of read:

    “US Government Resorts to Whining and Complaining Because they Know they can’t Win”

    • The guy

      Like children clamoring for the attention from their parents by throwing tantrums, i’d say that about sums them up. 

      • ken147

        HE STOLE MY TOY TRUCK!!!!!

        • The guy

          ^ hahaha that.

  • Anonymous

    i think that MacBride needs to be extremely careful with what he is trying to do and how he is trying to interpret the law. this could easily come back to bite hime squarely in the arse! you cant have rules that suit you one minute, then change them because they dont suit. he knows full well that he is in the shit and is clutching at straws. i hope Judge O’Grady puts him firmly in his place!  imagine what would be said if a US company that had no address in China but operated there, was sued, especially if those concerned were back in the US. would there be uproar if China wanted those people in court? of course there would. would the US allow the people to be extradited to China? of course not! what proof is there that any of the money seized is illegal? what proof is there that it all was taken from the entertainment industries? the man is full of shit and is trying to change the law to suit the circumstances. trying to deny representation in court, if it comes to it, is a real good advert for USA justice as well. disgraceful!!

    • Anonymous

      Where is the chinese government and the n. korean government suing googles and youtubes ass??

      • Wanker

        They are busy planning how and when to nuke your country.

        • Guest

          Because North Korea has a missile that could do that and it would be profitable for China to nuke what is perhaps its best and most dependant customer.

          Wait…

  • Stinky

    Really? Why does anyone give a fuck about some big fat Nazi filthy rich fuck?

    • Fredrika

      > “Really? Why does anyone give a fuck about some big fat Nazi filthy rich fuck?”

      Because a persons body weight and financial situation is, or should be, irrelevant to the law and the judicial system. This is not about Kim’s wheight or financial situation, it’s about obvious wrongdoings of both the US and New Zealand authorities. People tend to have a problem with when the authorities use their monopoly on violence to overstep their boundaries.

      Does this really have to be explained to you? Really?

      • G Callen

        Does this really have to be explained to you? Really?

        Even your explanation is probably too much for the dumbass to grasp.

        Their should really be some kind of IQ test to even log into a computer, but then would only be about 5-10 people actually discussing stuff here.

        • Anonymous

           You say that like it’s a bad thing. 

      • Stinky

         I guess you would VERY MUCH like to lay underneath this huge swine… obviously… fatty homo.

        • Fredrika

          > “I guess you would VERY MUCH like to lay underneath this huge swine… obviously… fatty homo.”

          I’m having some problem understanding your line of reasoning or argument, but maybe you can clarify, because as it is now, you come of as unusually and extremely ignorant.

          Are you saying that your personal belief regarding whether or not someone wishes to be intimate with Kim Dotcom, independently of, or in combination with your belief regarding that persons sexuality, and your prejudices against that sexuality, has any relevance to what actions that are ok according to the judicial system, and whether it’s ok or not for the authorities to overstep their boundaries and abuse their monopoly on authorized violence, and violate peoples humans rights to due process and fair treatment by the judicial system?

          Would that mean that feel that it’s also ok for the authorities to violate you in every way possible because of your self proclaimed problem with odour, independently of or in combination with your apparently ignorant and homophobic opinions?

        • Moron

          Just flag this moron, your comments are wasted on him…

  • Rekrul

    “The Government’s interest in forfeiture is virtually indistinguishable
    from its interest in returning to a bank the proceeds of a bank robbery;
    and a forfeiture-defendant’s claim of right to use such assets to hire
    an attorney, instead of having them returned to their rightful owners,
    is no more persuasive than a bank robber’s similar claim,” MacBride
    writes.

    So does that mean that if the US government somehow gets granted forfeiture rights to all of MU’s assets, they’ll be turning it all over to the entertainment industry?

    • Guest

      Wouldn’t it be a laugh if the government keeps all the money seized and then tells Hollywood etc. that they can’t have the money because its assets seized from criminal activity and they Hollywood have no rights to money seized from criminal activity lol. That will then teach Hollywood to get the government to do its bidding lol.

      Anyway, how can this money seized be considered as illegal and from criminal activity when the NZ prosecutors have stated that copying of digital data is not illegal. If the NZ prosecutors win there case on the fact that it is not criminal to copy digital data than surely that will dismiss the case of the US government in stating that one copy is a loss sale etc. and so Megaupload wins against the US goverment argument. If on the otherhand the US government wins the case for one copy is one loss sale etc. than that will dissmiss the NZ prosecurtors case in stating that copying of digital data is not theft and again Megaupload will win its case this time against the NZ prosecutors. Either way Megaupload will win a case whether it is against the NZ prosectors or against the US goverment. Both the NZ prosecutors and US goverment have totally shafted it for each other with there arguments which contradicted each other.

    • Guest

       The forfeiture law is illegal because it deny due process.

      Anyone who lost money in the name of the forfeiture law need to sue to get their money back.

      • The guy

        They likely won’t see that money because it will most likely be spent on lawyers to help you sue them. Unfortunate but the truth.

    • theonlyone

       Actually no. It goes to line their own greedy corrupt pockets.

  • RIAAtarded

    wow.. so returning their assets is like giving money back to to a bank robber? Really? The US justice department is going with the assumption that 100% of megauploads business was via piracy and all funds relating to it are forfeit? and if you company is based outside of the US they a proper summons isn’t required? Nice to see US justice is not only blind it is deaf, dumb as well.

  • Jimbo

    i am waiting for the response to this from Mega. it seems to me that the US govt is still trying to get Kim and the rest tried and convicted without giving them even the opportunity to defend themselves. if the case ever goes to court in the US, i am equally convinced that regardless of what defense Mega has and how many of the charges are proven to be false, the govt will ignore everything and still lock them up for life. would be a shorter sentence if they had murdered a dozen people! the US govt are behaving like the Fascists did in C20th Germany. what the hell is wrong with them?

  • Stinky

    Blaah, blaah, blaahah, the guy is still a (very) rich Nazi… no doubt about that.

    Can you imagine his wife having to lay underneath that whale while he fucks her?
    She must be fantasizing… about the cars and the house….or anything else besides that bloated pimp.

     

    • Anonymous

      Have you considered that she JUST might be heavy into Whales?

    • Wanker

      Kit Dotcom must have paid a lot of money to get that bitch to marry him.

    • Guest

      Who’s acting more like a Nazi: Kim Dotcom or the U.S. government?
      Also, your comment is a flawless defense of the government’s illegal raid and its total violation of due process. Just flawless.

      • The guy

        U.S. Government, hands down, no question asked.

    • Anonymous

      Why do you ignore all subjects in this news report and instead only attack his size related to his relationship with his wife?

      Kim Dotcom is a husband and a father meaning he is a family man to his kids and loving husband to his wife. I can’t recall hearing any complaints from her.

  • Guest

    google bank-robbers dvd cd sales bank-robbershard drives sales bank-robbersyoutube bank-robbersdvd burner bank-robberspc or lab top sales bank-robbers

    they are equate to bank-robbers too lol

  • USA

    What the USA is really saying … 

    “In opposing Defense Counsel’s motion, the United States seeks to uphold the status quo (stall this case as long as possible),conserve judicial and government resources (because the servers are encrypted and have have no evidence), and safeguard restrained and forfeitable assets that may eventually be restored to the victims of these crimes (we keep all the money), all pending the outcome of extradition hearings in New Zealand and the Netherlands (that will never happen anyway because we won’t produce evidence over there either) that may take months, if not years, to resolve (or hopefully even longer so we can keep Megaupload out-of-bussiness forever).”

    • marxmarv

      Excellent translation!  We need more of your sort in newsrooms all across the world.

  • Dillenbeck

    Gee, if only there was some sort of organization that existed to take care of international criminal cases who might have jurisdiction by having the nations in question be members of said organization…. but then again, there is no other power that the US would ever let violate the sovereignty of its borders or press charges against its citizens, so obviously it should not respect the rights of foreign nationals and the sovereignty of other nations… the world is the USA via the internet.

    • The_seventh_guest

      Yup, and that organization gets corrupted and in the end, everyone (not just so called ‘pirates’) gets fucked 

  • Eddy

    On a similar but seperate note, why the flip are we using yourtube when they are clearly censoring OUR work at the behest of their business ‘friends’.

    Try it yourself tonight. Pick a youtube link and claim copyright, see if they take it down without question, just like they do for big buisness. Will they fuck, they are just as culpable as the anti-piracy brigade, but we should hate them more, at least the MCAA is open about their intentions….mostly. ;).

    • Youtube_sucked_from_the_start

       I agree, Iv’e stopped uploading to YouTube and only use it rarely now. They are taking the piss… Vimeo and Smorti are my alternatives. Anyone got any more???

      • Violated0

        I have always enjoyed MetaCafe.

    • marxmarv

      Fuck streaming altogether.  Thumbnails + cheap webhost = <3

  • foff

    Ok I don’t even know where to begin.  I have never heard such an incredible line of bullshit.  First buying a premium membership on a cyberlocker does not equal stolen money from the entertainment industry.  I can assure you that the $10 or $12 spent on a premium membership per month would never end up in the pocket of hollywood. In any argument there is no way you could say any of that belongs to hollywood because it is the end user that decides to dl a copyrighted work MU did not serve that stuff up.  The money paid to MU was fairly paid for a service not for media.  If hollywood wants to get $ for the perceived lost sales they need to to sue the down loaders not a third party.  

    Second it is not just the rule of law.  But the logic in this response suggests that the US has jurisdiction anywhere in the world. 

  • Vincent Giannell

    I have a feeling the US Government will be criticized by those who are against them for this.

    • The guy

      More than you can ever comprehend.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

    they forgot that the company had a server in the US. so technically, they are a US company.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

       If so that means they should have been served.

    • Guest

       You seem to think a sever constitutes a registered business???

    • Violated0

      The servers were owned by a US cloud storage company and Mega only hired storage from them to cut down their international bandwidth when serving users in North America.

      Of course Mega had no company there. This is like trying to say my UK business is US based just because I own a Skype-in telephone number there in New Jersey.

  • theonlyone

    “The Government further objects to returning any funds to aid Mega’s
    defense, as this money was “stolen” from the entertainment industries.”

    This is just laughable. What about all the money the Government has stolen from its citizens and other countries citizens over the decades. They have no moral high ground. I would object to that on the “dirty hands” clause. Thats like a bank robber calling a fisherman a thief. They are just fucking thugs.

  • Jxke

    Actually it’s our money. Since we paid for the service. Fuck you Government.

    • Ffs

       I payed a grand total of £12 to Mega Upload. I used mega upload to store everything that i didn’t want to loose. Like computer drivers, old photos of friends, coursework, music and music mixes id’e made. Now its all gone, a good part of my life has been erased in a sense and to think the maybe Warner brothers will get my £12.. Make me sad…

  • Gae

    The whole comparison to a bank robber is just pure bullshit.
    You can’t call the money stolen until you can discover if it is actually stolen or not.
    As the trial has not taken place yet there is absolutely no reason to assume this money rightfully belongs to copyright holders.

    This just goes even more towards the pretty obvious conclusion that guilt has already been decided in advance of any kind of judicial process and has been right from the start.

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    Megaupload = Bank RobbersU.S. Govt must therefore = MAFIAA

  • Gfg

     Wait… the money is “stolen” because the users haven’t spend it to buy movies?
    Just to get this right: If someone is buying more food than he/she can eat: Is that also stealing from the movie industrie?
    If someone is not smoking, isn’t that stealing money from health care? … if someone don’t buy a car and use a bus instand… isn’t that stealing money from the car industry? Sorry in my opinion USA is trying to let the world see how full of bullshit they are.

    BTW. Kim isn’t a Nazi, he is sure “german” or “Deutscher” but that doesn’t include being a Nazi. There are way more amercian nazis than german nazis.
    and just to be correct most germans are not that proud of their country as you think

    • marxmarv

      Yes, they got their taste of humble pie.  The doctrine of exceptionalism is about all USians have left.  They don’t even have real exceptionalism!

  • Andrew Lee

    Bad megaupload!! I still cry at night because you guys came into my virtual bank and robbed me of my virtual millions! “Which I might add was worth almost less than nothing :P”

    I guess all I can do now is live one day at a time.

  • Notpolite

    It is ironical that this piece of junk of McBride is talking about “bank robbers” while right now it is the banks who are committing the robbery!

    Hey Mc Bride! Tell you friend Jimmy Diamond at “JP Morgan/Chase your butt” to steal harder asshole!

  • Guest

    HOLLYWOOD’s MARTIAL LAW

  • THE_FBI_IS_BEING_WATCHED

    I think Judge O’Grady won’t agree with the governments reasoning’s.  Judges are usually good at seeing though bullshit.
    Anyone with a eyes can see the US Governments using its weight to deny
    foreign Kim Dot Com his rights. The FBI / MAFIAA / US GOV are looking pretty weak to me at this point. They are basically begging the court here :D

    Fuck your analogys US Goverment, those analogy’s never worked for us, they won’t work for you either. 

    • DOJ Disaster

      I agree.  The US DOJ is asking the judge to disregard the rule of law. 

      Even when the judge dismisses the case the DOJ will appeal the decision to a higher court.  Again and Again. 

      They only want to stall stall stall as long as they can. 
      The innocent people they hurt along they way is irrelevant. 

      The DOJ is a diseased rabid beast.  The prosecutor is out of control. 
      He may even get shit-canned for this disaster.  Let’s hope so.   

      • Guest

        The DOJ may well certainly get a mega fallout and mega roasting from the MPAA and RIAA when they fail.

      • marxmarv

        Shit-canned?  So what?  The content cartel’s lobbying firms will fight to have him at multiples of what he was making.  Doesn’t anyone understand how public service *really* works these days?

        • Guest

           Kim Dot com has done nothing wrong or illegal in any way, He is not responsible in any way for the actions in what people store on the servers. It is the content cartels lobbying firms who are totally wrong and are so hell bent in doing everything outside of rules and juridications for making him responsible for the actions of what other people do. If the content cartels are so hell bent in making people pay etc. then they should go after the people who have uploaded there content but NO it is far easier for them to have the expense of making one person pay in this ie Kim Dot Com who has not commited any offence than to have the expense in going after the people who are responsible for commiting an offence.

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  • CleptocraticUSA

    My buddy had all of his cash confiscated by the cops during a drug bust that had nothing to do with him.


    The “drugs” (weed) belonged to the guy that my buddy was visiting and the money that was confiscated was my buddy’s vacation money.  My buddy didn’t smoke weed and never sold it.

    My point is this:  Guilty before proven innocent is, in practice, the law of the land in the USA.  My buddy never got his money back, of course, because “the other guy” was proven guilty.

    God bless the USA.

    WTF.

    • theonlyone

       Just goes to show how far out of control they are. We have lost any control over the government if we ever had any. They do what they want and make the laws work in their favor. Abusing citizens and stomp on their rights

      No different than organized criminals on a massive scale.

  • sungosang

    lol the US government equates to idiots with way too much spare time on their hands!
    Anony-Web.tk

    • Gninnaf

      They are not Idiots. They know exactly what they are doing.  The justice department is now owned and operated by political interests. The administration needed the media industry to get elected. 90 percent of the media industry is controlled by 6 companies. Those companies need the justice department to fight back competition from the internet which they have no hope of adapting to. We now live in a country where you compete in business by bribing law enforcement. 

      • Fredrika

        You’re responding to a well known spammer, that isn’t interested in any debate. In a pathetic attempt at not getting his spam link deleted he comes up with meaningless ignorant one-liners that follows the topic to a minimum. Just flag the comment or report the user profile to Disqus.

  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    What’s wrong with bank robbers?
    Banks are far worse than both nazis and commies ever were, they have committed the biggest crimes in the whole history of humanity.

  • 123

    I watched a movie.
    I liked it, and then watched it 3 more times.
    I remember most of it now. Dialoges, scenes, music
    I realise this is a crime !?
    Goverment will punish me and delete copyrighted content of my brain.
     

    • ScrewEwe2

      They know who you are and saw what you did. / old movie refference :-)

  • Junkie92

    Very Funny And Unique Collections Of Clocks From all Over The World.

    http://www.funnyblips.com/2012/06/very-funny-and-unique-collections-of.html

  • Krow

    Dear US Gov,

    Shit or get off the pot…

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    just as Julia implied I’m taken by surprise that people able to earn $8298 in 4 weeks on the internet. have you read this link (Click on menu Home more information)  http://goo.gl/IPz5K  

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    like Janice implied I am taken by surprise that any one can earn $6293 in four weeks on the internet. did you read this page (Click on menu Home more information)  http://goo.gl/p0QWz   

  • tonyj

    And not the banks that exploited Billions with their Trillion dollar bailout from U.S. tax payers.

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  • 0RacKL

    And what about the real “bank robbers”?  I mean the big Wall Street banks that robbed the public blind to the tune of billions before, during and after the 2008 economic crisis with their fraudulent management of derivative accounts?  Just recently JP Morgan did the same thing.  It was all a major subject of Charles Ferguson’s Oscar winning documentary “Inside Job.”  As Ferguson stated in his Oscar acceptance speech, so far not a single Wall Street CEO has gone to jail.  I’d like to hear the government explain why Megaupload’s crime is worse that the massive fraud and conspiracy perpetrated by these banks, who harmed untold numbers of innocent people.

  • Me

    This will takes years to worm it’s way through the courts. Just look at cases like Limewire or the constant appeals with Jammie etc. All the while there is left uncertainty and doubt in the file locker market. Exactly what the MAFIAA and Gov wants. File locker services will wither and die or be crippled with self censorship that they are not the same thing anymore. Believe me. When this finally gets resolved everybody will have moved on to something else and nobody will care anymore. The next filesharing war will come with anonymous networks and commercial VPN’s. Mark my words.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      I won’t, because they said that same thing a few years ago and it didn’t come true then either.

      The most likely future is that filesharing businesses will move out of America, lobby other countries to make it VERY CLEAR by their laws that in ANY situation, they are not responsible for the actions of their users as long as they remove things when informed that they are infringing, and life will continue on.

      Anonymous networks will come to exist beside that (Freenet, TOR) but they won’t take the place of the filesharing services.

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  • TariaS

    One thing many people don’t get here is not the “US government” that is doing this. There a few people who have unlimited power and they own as well the film & music industry…yes and the same people do own america…

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    The provision should be interpreted to require mailing a copy of the
    summons to the organization’s address or to its principal place of
    business in the United States, only where such an address or place of
    business exists.”

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    While it’s too early to conclude anything, the above suggests that the
    Government is uneasy with the strength of Megaupload’s defense.

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